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Speaker 1: Welcome to this week five edition of Between the Horns,

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Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California toy to dealers. Cameron, I

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Speaker 1: went alongside my good friends to mark O Farr and

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Speaker 1: JV Long, and before we get into the loss of

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Speaker 1: this year, there.

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Speaker 2: I relegated next week. Wow, third chair about tonight? Fourth?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Okay, the okay, I'm grady to.

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Speaker 2: Have to Marco back. Yes, everyone's happy about that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know if I should smile this week?

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Speaker 3: Are we still? Are we over it yet? Chicago? No,

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Speaker 3: We're still not over.

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Speaker 2: I'm not hosting, Cameron.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's hard because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: always have a little bit of a smile on my

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Speaker 1: face considering we have the greatest job in the world

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Speaker 1: and I get to sit next to YouTube. But speaking

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Speaker 1: of athletic feats, JB, You've got a pretty big athletic

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Speaker 1: feat coming up Cassie's fortieth birthday. This guy's going to

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Speaker 1: get some roller blades on this week?

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Speaker 2: What get ready to call play by play Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, please tape your ankles. Come on, we

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Speaker 3: need you man. Wow, good luck with that.

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Speaker 1: I know, yes, but the last time you were in

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Speaker 1: Rollerblade at.

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Speaker 3: Once when they first came out, and this is enough

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Speaker 3: for me, never again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get a few of the best snapshots on

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Speaker 2: the Infinity screen at so far there we go at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Yes please, I could not wait to see it dialed

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Speaker 1: up now before we get into it. This week was

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Speaker 1: a little tough. A smile is now dropping from my face.

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Speaker 1: The loss to the Bears twenty four to eighteen. We

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Speaker 1: got to dig into it because there were some points

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Speaker 1: definitely left on the field and JB you said coming

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Speaker 1: into this show that you had a lot to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where do you want to begin with this? Tough

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Speaker 3: the word it's more frustrating what happens Sunday you go

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Speaker 3: fair just frustrating and arguing about it all week and

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Speaker 3: seeing the stuff on social media and on video and

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Speaker 3: pointing out the weaknesses. We all get that. But I

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Speaker 3: still think that if this current team the way it is,

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Speaker 3: and I know you want Pooka back, you want Cooper

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Speaker 3: cut back, you want all the guys that are injured

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Speaker 3: to come back, but even the group that you have

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Speaker 3: right now, if you play better in Chicago, that's a win.

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Speaker 3: You were dominating Chicago. You're much better than that outcome says,

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Speaker 3: So that to me is the most frustrating thing. That's

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Speaker 3: one you could have gotten that you don't get, and

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Speaker 3: we know in this league that could keep you out

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs, and that just drives me nuts.

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Speaker 2: It was like the most dominant six zero lead I've

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Speaker 2: ever felt, Yes, and then it was gone in an

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Speaker 2: instant where you just dive right into the the for

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Speaker 2: red October? Is that what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: If I was just about to say, or maybe let's

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Speaker 1: start with a different word that starts with red as well,

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Speaker 1: how about the red zone? Because you talked about dominant, Well,

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Speaker 1: we've been getting to the red zone actually off the

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Speaker 1: thirty nine drives this season, seventeen trips there, but have

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Speaker 1: only come away with seven touchdowns, six of which behind

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Speaker 1: Kyraen Williams. What's the solution?

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Speaker 2: Look, Sean McVay did not forget how to drop game

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Speaker 2: plans or call plays anywhere on the field, especially not

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Speaker 2: the red zone. And Matthew Stafford, to my eye, has

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Speaker 2: not lost a mile per hour off his fastball, and

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Speaker 2: as recently as last year, this was an elite red

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Speaker 2: zone offense, like they were eighth in red zone conversion

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Speaker 2: last year. Now, since that playoff game in Detroit, it's

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Speaker 2: been a different story, and that's incredibly frustrating and it's

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Speaker 2: why they're losing games. But I think it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of actenuating circumstances. And this is going to sound like

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Speaker 2: I'm an apologist, and I am in a sense, But

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Speaker 2: like the offensive line isn't how you built it. Like

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Speaker 2: you said Pook and Cooper cup are in lockstep with

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Speaker 2: your quarterback, They're not there. I think some of it

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Speaker 2: is circumstantial, Like you're playing from behind right, you're trying

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Speaker 2: to score quickly, and you face some really good defenses too,

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Speaker 2: Like that's not pretend that other than Arizona you face

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Speaker 2: three really good defenses. And in the NFL world, a

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Speaker 2: four game sample size is still pretty small. I think

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Speaker 2: there's better things to come, but I'll stop there. You

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Speaker 2: chime in, I do want to defend the play color

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. But where am I right with me?

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Speaker 3: I trust in Sean McVay. I agree with everything you

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Speaker 3: said in the red zone. I'll tell you this as

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Speaker 3: a guy that made his living with his hand in

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Speaker 3: the dirt. Into the red zone on defense, the first

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Speaker 3: thing I thought about was the run, because if we

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Speaker 3: miss one run fit or miss a tackle, it's unforgiving.

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Speaker 3: He's in the end zone and you could have the

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Speaker 3: slowest running back in the world, and it hurts you

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Speaker 3: because the end zone is right there. So if you're

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Speaker 3: not in lockstep, if you don't have guys like you said,

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Speaker 3: like Puka and Cooper that are in tune mentally with

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Speaker 3: your quarterback, you're having issues out there, then the safest

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Speaker 3: way to score is to run. The only way you

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Speaker 3: scored in Chicago in the red zone was Kyron Williams,

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Speaker 3: So I would say lean on that until you start

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Speaker 3: figuring everything else out. But like I said, with a

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Speaker 3: week's worth of practice, I expect them in the passing

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Speaker 3: game to be a whole lot better than they were

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Speaker 3: in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: The myth is that Sean doesn't like to run the football,

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Speaker 2: and having watched every snap of Rams football to Sean McVay,

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Speaker 2: area believe me. I fall victim to that too. It

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Speaker 2: does feel that way sometime, but it's not true. The

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Speaker 2: data does not support that, not in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: not this season. It's just not true. What is true

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Speaker 2: is the Rams are through a month a more fe

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Speaker 2: running offense than passing offense because of those circumstances. And

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Speaker 2: I think the offensive line as currently constructed is better

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Speaker 2: firing off the ball than they are in pass protection.

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Speaker 2: The numbers bear that out. What's also true, and you

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Speaker 2: hinted at it, is Kyen Williams is the only player

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Speaker 2: with the Rams helmet this Sunday at Sofi Stadium who

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Speaker 2: scored a touchdown. Kupp has the other one. He's not

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Speaker 2: going to play. So if if you're in the comments section,

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Speaker 2: and I'm right there with you saying, why don't the

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Speaker 2: Rams just embrace that reality? Why don't they lean into

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Speaker 2: that identity until a defense forces them to do something else,

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Speaker 2: or until things open up a bit, or until they

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Speaker 2: get healthier out at receiver. I'm with you there, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you there. But let's not I guess. Let me

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Speaker 2: just argue for giving Sean McVay is afraid to call

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Speaker 2: run plays. That's not what I'm saying, correct, And the

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Speaker 2: quarterback has to say in this too, like he often

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Speaker 2: is there, I assume with two plays that he can

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Speaker 2: choose aarb runner pass, And so I guess I'm just

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Speaker 2: advocating for giving a little bit more margin to a

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Speaker 2: future Hall of fame quarterback who's still got plenty of

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Speaker 2: juice and soon to be the winning his coach in

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Speaker 2: Rams franchise.

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Speaker 3: Totally question, would you rather bet on that right arm

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Speaker 3: to make a play or Kyron Williams one on one

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Speaker 3: with an unblocked safety because they are going to stack

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Speaker 3: the box and make you throw it, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: And when he checks out, there's a reason he's checking

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Speaker 3: out is because they're taking away the runs. So that's

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Speaker 3: your question. Kyron Williams with an unblocked guy or the

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Speaker 3: arm of Stafford.

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Speaker 2: That's your choice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'll also say this, like some of the plays that

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Speaker 2: have not worked are screens, are checked downs.

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Speaker 3: And fantastic a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are essentially extensions of the running game. There

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Speaker 2: have been a couple of costly penalties, one in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: one on the left tackle in Detroit that cost Jordan

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Speaker 2: Whittington are rushing touchdown again. There's just a couple of

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Speaker 2: not quitees that are causing this this tension and I

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Speaker 2: feel it. Believe me, I get it. This is why

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Speaker 2: they're losing. It's at least one of the reasons why

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Speaker 2: they're losing. But I think their best red zone execution

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Speaker 2: is still in front of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would challenge even that statement though, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're betting on the right arm

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Speaker 1: of math Stafford, because I would never bet against the

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Speaker 1: right arm of Matthew Stafford. I think you're more betting

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Speaker 1: off of the receivers and even the tight end group

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Speaker 1: at this point and their ability to find the right space,

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Speaker 1: the right timing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's and to go off of what you.

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Speaker 2: Said in that regard, I don't think he turned it

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Speaker 2: over in the red zone last year. No, No, if

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Speaker 2: memory serves, I think he was literally letter perfect inside

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Speaker 2: the opponent's twenty as recently as last December January.

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Speaker 3: Right, I was talking if you were the quarterback, if

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Speaker 3: you're Stafford making that choice, loaded box, we have a

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Speaker 3: run call. Yeah, I'd rather trust that, But agreed, I

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Speaker 3: mean this might be keep the run on. There are

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Speaker 3: no checks until we get this thing right.

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Speaker 1: At receiver, Yeah, let's talk a receiver a bit more.

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Speaker 1: We've got two two out Well Jordan Woodington Whittington coming

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Speaker 1: off his career high six reception sixty two yards in

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Speaker 1: Week four and the last two for two two at Well.

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Speaker 1: He's had eighty plus receiving yards again, no touchdowns, He's

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Speaker 1: had some big chunks. How does that show up though?

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Speaker 1: In the red zone? Can they use him as a

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Speaker 3: I was does plus eighteen counts as an exploded in

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Speaker 3: the passing game? I thought it was twenty or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can set your own threshold.

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Speaker 3: YEA, yes to two plus eighteam, that's that's an explosive

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Speaker 3: And if he makes you miss, it's yards after the catch.

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Speaker 3: All I do know is it's the bigger the receiver,

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Speaker 3: the better they are in the in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: I would say smaller receivers, shorter guys like two two.

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Speaker 3: They're hard to see because the rush is right there

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Speaker 3: and the safeties don't have far to drop and neither

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Speaker 3: do the linebackers, so if they don't bite it on playfakes,

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Speaker 3: hard to see him. But his speed can also be

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Speaker 3: useful in the red zone. And I thought that might

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Speaker 3: have popped out at some point. Maybe it will this

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Speaker 3: week the end to round game, especially with that guy. Again,

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Speaker 3: it's tough on defenses. One missed, wrong fit, runfit. You

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Speaker 3: don't get that back, So maybe you can't throw it

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Speaker 3: to him, but you can definitely use two to two

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Speaker 3: more in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's above my pay grade. But I will

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Speaker 2: say there are enough tools in the tool belt right

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Speaker 2: now at receiver to still find success. They're not Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 2: they're not Pooka Akua, they're not thinking in lockstep with

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. But that's just a matter of time on task.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a matter of ability.

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Speaker 1: I think to some bigger bodies, right, So Colby Parkinson

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Speaker 1: had tight end and then of course d rob who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was the target on that two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: So they're trying to find those bigger bodies. There's no

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Speaker 1: questions about that. All right, let's dig into this staate.

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Speaker 3: Lost my house, by the way, I thought Parkinson would

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Speaker 3: have been a bigger part of this offense early, especially

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Speaker 3: in the red zone. The guy's a giraffe, he's so tall.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: There's more there.

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Speaker 2: There's more there, And it was a weird first month.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think you can account for the hand

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Speaker 2: We've been working together too long, and I want to

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Speaker 2: I don't love that that's the reality. Nonetheless, Stafford and McVeigh,

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Speaker 2: The hard reality is this was a roster built to

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Speaker 3: About the defense. Yeah, I'd be a little disappointed. At

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Speaker 2: Last week was a step forward, right step forward.

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Speaker 2: But again, they got the strip, sack and the football

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Speaker 2: Right like the Rams current defensive too deep I counted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what you got and who you are.

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Speaker 3: Let's say Jared Fisk ye. I could watch those two

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Speaker 1: The learning curve is steep on the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: you can have, the better. So be it. You've got

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Speaker 3: a great pass rush. I would assume this week when

437
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Speaker 3: you're facing guys like Jordan Love and they're good against

438
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Speaker 3: the Blitz, you're gonna bring more than what they can block,

439
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Speaker 3: which means you're gonna try to make him throw it quick.

440
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 3: So your corners are gonna have to tackle that's Darius Williams.

441
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to cover in short areas. That should

442
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Speaker 3: be Darius Williams. But I haven't seen him do it.

443
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Speaker 3: But I'm hoping that guy is still there.

444
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Speaker 2: If he's healthy, he helps immensely. If he's healthy, he's

445
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Speaker 2: probably your best corner. And I think again, he puts

446
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Speaker 2: a lot of things in order in that back end.

447
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Speaker 2: So I don't know how it's gonna look. I have

448
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: a suspicion that it's as close to the way the

449
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: Rams drew it up defensively as we've seen since training camp.

450
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Speaker 2: When Darien Kendrick went down on the first.

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Speaker 1: Day, Larelle Murchison also back at practice to somebody else

452
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Speaker 1: to keep an eye.

453
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Speaker 3: Out for Lazarus broke his arm and he's back.

454
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Speaker 1: If only we all healed back gun.

455
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Speaker 2: Yes, and the Rams do need a little more interior

456
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Speaker 2: pass rush, no doubt.

457
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Kobe Turner. I think he the part

458
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Speaker 3: of Aaron that rubbed off on him. He's playing like

459
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Speaker 3: eighty five percent of the snaps. He never comes off

460
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Speaker 3: the field. I respect that, So if he had a

461
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Speaker 3: little more help in the middle to help him get

462
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Speaker 3: that interior rush with those edge guys. Now you got.

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Speaker 2: Something, especially because you just faced a Chicago team that

464
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Speaker 2: was having a world of trouble running the football and

465
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Speaker 2: the next thing you know, DeAndre Swift is unstoppable. We

466
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Speaker 2: all know that can't happen against the Packers. Like the

467
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Speaker 2: Packers their offense balance diverse. They can beat you multiple ways.

468
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Speaker 2: You have to take at least half of their attack.

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Speaker 2: And this goes back to the Darius Williams Darius Williams question.

470
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Speaker 2: If the Rams are getting healthier in their secondary and

471
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Speaker 2: the Packers are getting more injured on their receiving core,

472
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Speaker 2: maybe that balances the scales.

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Speaker 1: Turner to your point, fifty total snaps and I believe

474
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Speaker 1: one of those touchdowns from Swift was actually when Turner

475
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Speaker 1: was off.

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Speaker 3: Off the field.

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Speaker 1: Wow field. Okay, let's dig into the Packers and this

478
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Speaker 1: opponent breakdown. Packers coming off all lost to Minnesota twenty

479
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Speaker 1: nine to thirty one. Minnesota looks really solid and this

480
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Speaker 1: will be the one hundredth meeting all time between the

481
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Speaker 1: Packers and the Rams. Jordan Love it was a lot

482
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Speaker 1: of good and maybe not a lot of good. All

483
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Speaker 1: at the same time, he had a career high and

484
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Speaker 1: two aspects passing yards with three hundred and eighty nine,

485
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Speaker 1: but also interceptions with three against Minnesota. This is just

486
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Speaker 1: his second game of the season. What can you expect

487
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Speaker 1: from him in terms of this offense. You talked about

488
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Speaker 1: it some quick quick shots, but what else.

489
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Speaker 3: I remember, like way back when quarterbacks set through for

490
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Speaker 3: like three fifty and up usually lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yours signed your game circumstances.

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Speaker 3: They had to gun it every single time.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how it was for him last week,

494
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Speaker 2: exactly yours.

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Speaker 3: My my thing this week for I guess the Rams

496
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Speaker 3: defense watching the Minnesota tape is ff follow floors, do

497
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Speaker 3: what he did. He sent the house after Love Love

498
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Speaker 3: is coming back. He's still not as mobile, you know.

499
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Speaker 3: So he made him get on the move and made

500
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Speaker 3: him uncomfortable a lot more than he liked. And it worked.

501
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Speaker 3: Three picks and they were absolutely dominating that game. So

502
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Speaker 3: that's the one thing I would say coming out of Chicago,

503
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Speaker 3: with the way the defense is set up now, the

504
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Speaker 3: personnel you have, I would expect a lot more dogs

505
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Speaker 3: and stunts out of this defense. Twist the lineup, don't

506
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Speaker 3: give offensive lines a dead run at your second level,

507
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: help them out with some stunts and just make them

508
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Speaker 3: think a little bit. And if it's in the passing game,

509
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Speaker 3: you may get after Love. He's not as mobile as

510
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Speaker 3: he used to and you've got some really athletic ins

511
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Speaker 3: and some fast guys on the field.

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Speaker 2: See I was going to say, of all the opponents

513
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Speaker 2: the Rams could have drawn this week, the Packers are

514
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Speaker 2: on the short list for the ones I would have

515
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Speaker 2: liked to have seen the least because of their opposing

516
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Speaker 2: head coach and play caller, who the Rams have yet

517
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Speaker 2: to beat. Maybe getting them out of Lambeau will help.

518
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Speaker 2: I mean, that could be the biggest thing, right, I'm

519
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: sick of going there and trudging home from the frozen tundra.

520
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Speaker 2: End to feed shifting.

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Speaker 3: Nice shifting the sea and Green Bay. So far, Yeah,

522
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Speaker 3: it can help.

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Speaker 2: But kind of what I just said, like, they can

524
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Speaker 2: shorten the game on you, and they can squeeze you

525
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Speaker 2: at the running game. They can beat you with their

526
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Speaker 2: receivers if you take them away. They can eviscerate you

527
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Speaker 2: with their tight end. One of their tight ends had

528
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Speaker 2: a great game against the Rams last year. So they

529
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Speaker 2: just have a lot of different ways to beat you offensively,

530
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Speaker 2: and given the state of the Rams defense, that's extremely

531
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Speaker 2: concerning going into Sunday, and that's why the opportunity that

532
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Speaker 2: got away last week in Chicago still stings.

533
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Speaker 1: So where do you set your focus? Then? In terms

534
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Speaker 1: do you defending the run, defending the pass? You drop?

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Speaker 1: What think you had fifty four total attempts versus Minnesota?

536
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Speaker 1: I mean where do you set your focus?

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Speaker 3: Well, what have you been saying for years? You earned

538
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: the right the rest of the passer, and you do

539
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Speaker 3: that by stopping the run. So that would be job one.

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Speaker 3: If they run up and down the field on you've

541
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Speaker 3: got no chance. So definitely, first emphasis is making them

542
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Speaker 3: one dimensional, forcing the game back onto love shoulders, and

543
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Speaker 3: then get after him. I was gonna say, hopefully you'll

544
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Speaker 3: have benefit of crowd noise. You are at home, this

545
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: is your turf, this is your track. Your guys should

546
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Speaker 3: feel comfortable getting after a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Chief says have never been to Sofi Stadium. They're one

548
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Speaker 2: of a small handful of teams that are yet to

549
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: play in Englewood, and I think they are ready for

550
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Speaker 2: the moment. Yes, I hate to disappointment in that regard.

551
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Speaker 2: I'll be curious to see what they're what they've got

552
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: at receiver. Jaden Reid has become a true number one

553
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: for them, and he's a dangerous run thread as well.

554
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: I think he leads all receivers in rushing yards this

555
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: season without Christian Watkins. That may help the Rams cause.

556
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Speaker 2: And we'll see about Romeo Dobbs, who as of today

557
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Speaker 2: we're sitting here on a Thursday, I think mispractice today

558
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Speaker 2: for a personal reason, so that might impact the answer

559
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Speaker 2: to my question. But you can never go wrong with

560
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Speaker 2: stopping the run. I would just like to see the

561
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Speaker 2: Rams take the football, goes, score an opening drive touchdown

562
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Speaker 2: for the first time in the first quarter of the season,

563
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Speaker 2: and maybe dictate some circumstances to the floor and to

564
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Speaker 2: eleven the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Well, we did get a chance to see Karen Williams

566
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Speaker 1: score his seventh straight rushing a touchdown. It is currently

567
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Speaker 1: leading the NFL. You talked about it. Just keep going there,

568
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: even if it is one dimensional until they stop it.

569
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Speaker 1: Why not go that.

570
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Speaker 3: Direction single handedly saving the reputation of Notre Dame running backs.

571
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Speaker 2: How about his past pro too.

572
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Speaker 3: Dude, he is so willing. He's becoming one of my

573
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: favorite guys, and I know we have on there. Why

574
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Speaker 3: isn't Blake Korum playing well?

575
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Speaker 2: Just say, Kyen, you tackled out one go ahead?

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about it now. Why do you need him?

577
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Kyen Williams is bawling right now. I don't know how

578
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: much you thought your third running back was going to

579
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Speaker 3: get in the game. Anyway. This is not college and

580
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: they're not running the wishbone. You know, only one back

581
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Speaker 3: at the time. Guys, you know.

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Speaker 2: You pay your insurance premiums right, Yes? Is that the

583
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Speaker 2: most fun check that you write? No, but when you

584
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Speaker 2: file a claim, aren't you glad so happy?

585
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Speaker 3: Yes? I see where you're going. But I mean, look,

586
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Speaker 3: if the running game wasn't where it needs to be

587
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: or it's failing you and I you don't you're not

588
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: ranked as high as you would like running the football.

589
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: I get that. But it's not like Kiren hasn't been effective.

590
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: He's scoring. He's totally That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So look, if the frustration is spending third round draft

592
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: capital on a player who's only seen eight snaps of

593
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Speaker 2: offense in garbage time at Arizona, that I get. I

594
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Speaker 2: get that, But if the thought is that he's somehow

595
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Speaker 2: going to elevate speaking of Korum, the Rams chances of

596
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: winning by taking snaps away from Kiren or even Ronnie Rivers,

597
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: who's been superb as well. No, that's a no for me.

598
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Speaker 2: In fact, the last thing I think the Rams need

599
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: right now in their offensive huddle is another fresh face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

601
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Speaker 2: The reason they're coming off a loss is because of

602
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: quite literally one pass protection breakdown. It wasn't a running back,

603
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: but if Montees sweat doesn't get to Stafford, I think

604
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: we're talking a much different dynamic here today. So I'm

605
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Speaker 2: not if and when you need Blake Korm he's going

606
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: to be ready, He's going to be great. You're going

607
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: to be glad that you drafted him. I just hope

608
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Speaker 2: that day is far off in the future.

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Speaker 1: Nine different offensive line men have seen a start, just

610
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Speaker 1: to give some context to that pass pro and the

611
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: challenges there. So again, offensive line a little bit of

612
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: a struggle. Yeah, we'll see what they can put together.

613
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: But in truth, don't beat a tight end as a

614
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: professional defensive end, you are fired. I have to say

615
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: that if a tight end blocks you in pass pro

616
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: and you don't win, your fired.

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that was the design.

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Speaker 3: No, definitely, I'm just had to put that out there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk a little Packers secondary. There might be

620
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Speaker 1: some space for us to actually throw the ball downfield.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen from the Packers secondary? Have either

622
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Speaker 1: of you?

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Speaker 3: I think every secondary is vulnerable with today's NFL. The

624
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: Packers aren't any different from any other team. You know,

625
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: if you can avoid the pass rush and they do

626
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: bring it, and like I said, it's weird. Turn it

627
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: on the green Bay video. Tell me if you catch

628
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: this and you see them lining up in a four

629
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Speaker 3: to three, it's strange.

630
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Speaker 2: Joe Berry and green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are traditional three to four teams, have been forever.

632
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Speaker 3: Some of their best players throughout history have been in

633
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Speaker 3: the three four Outside linebackers to four to three, so

634
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: tougher to run against, but easier to pick up. If

635
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: you're Matthew Stafford and I think that if McVeigh would

636
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: pick which front he'd like to play against, it would

637
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: be a four to three. It fits his eleven personne.

638
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: What does it remind you of? Is there a comp

639
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: a recent comp in Rams opponent history that the four to.

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00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: Three you just saw it in Chicago. There's gonna be

641
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: a lot of carryover. I mean there's cover four, cover two,

642
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: rush for with stunts, maybe bring five. That's the same

643
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: thing you've just practiced against. So there'll be some great

644
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: carryover from Chicago. So, like I said, just execute better

645
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: you had Chicago. You can do the same thing against

646
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Speaker 3: this defense.

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Speaker 1: It's a great pickup by you on the four three.

648
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: One of the last keys for me generating takeaways because

649
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: when you look at Green Bay, they're currently leading the league.

650
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: They have twelve opponent turnovers, eight of eight interceptions and

651
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: one guy has just been demonstrative. He has four interceptions

652
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: in the last four games alone, and that's McKenny on

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Speaker 1: the back end. When was the last time you saw

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Speaker 1: some to do that.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember another Giant who got out of New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, unreal. Winning isn't complicated? People complicated? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And on the other side, for the Rams, just one interception?

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Speaker 1: Where can they generate takeaways? How does it happen?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's weird. I hate going into games,

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Speaker 3: either as a player or as doing this saying the

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Speaker 3: defense needs to take the ball away because of how

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Speaker 3: hard it is to do. I'd say, be ready for

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Speaker 3: tips and overthrows. If you watch the tape with Jordan

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Speaker 3: Love versus Minnesota, he was throwing high a lot, everything

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Speaker 3: went over, So there will be opportunities for tips and overthrows.

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Speaker 3: Be ready for those. If we called them baskets, we

667
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Speaker 3: didn't count them as picks as players for fun, but

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Speaker 3: they are interceptions. If you have to dive and catch one,

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Speaker 3: so be it. But stepping in front of one, asking

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Speaker 3: the guy to step out of his comfort zone and

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Speaker 3: be like a shutdown corner not gonna happen. So that

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Speaker 3: or rushing the passer and knocking the ball out, or

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Speaker 3: getting the ball out on a rushing play, that stuff

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Speaker 3: has to happen if it's on the deck, if you

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Speaker 3: get it out, it's got to be rams football. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's more of effort than saying, hey, we

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Speaker 3: need more takeaways.

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Speaker 2: Keys for me are getting back to situational mastery because

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can necessarily count on Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: throwing you three this week. I'm guessing he's going to

681
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Speaker 2: shore that up. Cut down on penalty, something you can control,

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Speaker 2: especially in your secondary ball. Security impacts the turnover margin

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Speaker 2: the same way. Can you be letter perfect in clock

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Speaker 2: and time out management. This week, I think you'll need

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Speaker 2: to be Can you nail your fourth down decisions? Can

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Speaker 2: you capitalize in the kicking game or the Packers have

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Speaker 2: actually had some real problems this year, or even better yet,

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Speaker 2: don't kick it at all unless it's an extra point.

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Speaker 2: Those are all sorts of things that I'm looking for

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Speaker 2: in terms of again, there's a narrow path to victory

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Speaker 2: against a very good opponent. But this is one the

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Speaker 2: Rams got to get. It's got to be two and

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Speaker 2: three going in to buy.

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Speaker 3: And Matthew Stafford has ahead right right he does. There's

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Speaker 3: a helmet on his head, so if the defense hits

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Speaker 3: him in the head, that should be Oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I see where you're going.

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Speaker 3: Just where helmet head tap?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I like it. We got your keys?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any last keys going into this matchup?

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Speaker 1: Mine was the takeaways? So what do you have?

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know, I think when did he I think

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Speaker 3: that was coming back from Arizona. It was man in

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Speaker 3: the mirror time and they responded versus San Franz. They

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Speaker 3: got to win. I don't mind going right back to that.

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Speaker 3: And I know it's cliche to say like, okay, we're

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Speaker 3: going to start the season over from this point here.

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Speaker 3: That's yadiya dada. But you can forget all that, man,

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Speaker 3: this team is good enough to win and they're not

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Speaker 3: as bad as one in three says. I really believe that.

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Speaker 3: So go out and play. Go out and play your

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: best game at home in so far, and get this

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Speaker 3: ship turned around. Get a winning week, not a losing week,

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Speaker 3: and start a streak.

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Speaker 2: Ship with a p ship with a piece.

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure we get that out. Or

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Speaker 3: either way you want to take.

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Speaker 2: It, I'm with you. I don't think this group has

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Speaker 2: come within an Ethan Evans kickoff of its best football yet.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that they can get there while it

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Speaker 2: still matters, because the difference between a win going into

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Speaker 2: the by and a loss, as we all know, is stark.

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Speaker 2: But I also looked at the Green Bay Packers and

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Speaker 2: last year's experience as a model for what's still possible.

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Speaker 2: Remember going to Green Bay last year, they were dead

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Speaker 2: in the water. They couldn't score a touchdown, they couldn't

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Speaker 2: get points early in games. There were rumblings about Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: Now he's got paid and they've been a rocket ship

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Speaker 2: ever since. Finally you get these guys at your place.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, same script, just flip it.

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Speaker 3: I know Sean ain't quitting.

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Speaker 1: A week away from the bye, a win away from

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Speaker 1: the bye. And there's one thing I know for sure,

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Speaker 1: and it's that I'm glad I have you two in

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Speaker 1: my huddle. So thanks so much for joining us on

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Speaker 1: between the horns for this week. Five is presented by

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Speaker 1: our Southern California to our dealers Cameron or When DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far and JB. Long. We can't wait to see you

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Speaker 1: in sofa on Sunday