WEBVTT - Selects: How Temper Tantrums Work

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do with select. My name's Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to pick out a select and do

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<v Speaker 1>an intro for this one. I don't want to work.

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<v Speaker 1>See that was play acting everyone. This is called how

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<v Speaker 1>Temper Tantrums work, And that was an example of a

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<v Speaker 1>temper tantrum. This is from and it was a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was um before I had a kid, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really was instructive on how things were gonna go once

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<v Speaker 1>I did have a kid. But I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five years into this thing, and she's great. She

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<v Speaker 1>rarely ever has thrown temper tantrums in her whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>She can be a real paint in the butt, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's never been a tantrum thrower. So I'm gonna listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this one again. Actually right along with you. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark Bush, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and again we have our guest producer Noel.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thrashing about on the ground, vomiting, screaming, capillaries bursting

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<v Speaker 1>in his cheeks, all because we wouldn't give him a

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<v Speaker 1>third pork chop not true. Yeah, boy, temper tantrums or

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<v Speaker 1>I always feel so bad for the parents in public,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Oh really, I always think like, you screwed

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<v Speaker 1>up your kid already. See you're so wrong. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to dispel that. Yeah it's true, although I did

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<v Speaker 1>see a UM, we're about to talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>why it's not the parents fault. But I did some

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<v Speaker 1>extra research and there are experts that say you can

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<v Speaker 1>also be a bad parent and that could lead to

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<v Speaker 1>temper tantrums. Like, we don't want to blame parents, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can definitely play a part. And we as a

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<v Speaker 1>society of said, uh, from this age to this age,

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<v Speaker 1>temper tantrums are normal. And then after that then apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the bad parenting really shines through and then

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<v Speaker 1>they think like, yeah, there's some real problems this kid

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<v Speaker 1>has and it's largely because of bad parenting or a

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<v Speaker 1>bad home environment, or troubles during pregnancy like abuse, things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Um, that can all lead to temper tantrums

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<v Speaker 1>that turn into something else after a certain age. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, it makes me kind of uncomfortable. But

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<v Speaker 1>just parenting advice period is so like subjective and individual Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's always feel like people shouldn't tell other people

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<v Speaker 1>how to parent, But I also I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably some pretty good guidelines to parenting too. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you go back and look at, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>history of parenting, yeah, like it wasn't too long ago

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<v Speaker 1>that it was. It kind of seems to go on

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<v Speaker 1>a cycle. Like in the eighteenth century. Um Rousseau, the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Enlightenment thinker, basically was one of the first to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe kids aren't just internature adults and

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe child like something special. It's a time of development.

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<v Speaker 1>We should you know, become less parent centric and more

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<v Speaker 1>child centric as far as parenthood goes. And um, that

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of sparked this different idea of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>treating kids as kids rather than adults. And then that

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<v Speaker 1>was replaced later on by the whole like discipline and

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<v Speaker 1>all that of the late nineteenth early twentieth century, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that was replaced by the idea that kids their

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<v Speaker 1>childhood should be indulged, you know. And then Russo said, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>fetch me in my feather, I need to throw up?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that from fletch, No, fletch. This is what came

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. No, I just thought it'd be funny. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to throw up, you know, the benjing and

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<v Speaker 1>purging back in the day, eat till you can't eat

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<v Speaker 1>anymore than you stick a feather it on your throat

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<v Speaker 1>and vomited it up. Supposedly, the vomitorium thing is a myth.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard that in Rome? Ancient Rome, vomitoriums they

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly had like pieces for that. I haven't heard. They

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<v Speaker 1>were a myth. Supposedly their myth mythological and not like

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<v Speaker 1>the Menatar, like a real myth, not like they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to think it's a myth. Got Okay, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking temper tantrums, and we've already kind of said, um

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<v Speaker 1>that during a certain period of your life, they're normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually you would be a weird kid if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a temper tantrum pretty frequently. Not weird, but

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<v Speaker 1>you would be in the minority for sure. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you're weird. Comparatively speaking, it means you're weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, from age one to age three ish, they

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<v Speaker 1>basically say, I have have your temper tantrums. It's normal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>between fifty if you want a statistic of two to

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<v Speaker 1>three year old boys and girls have at least one

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<v Speaker 1>tantrum per week, and UM have a tantrum every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those kids are fun between those those years. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was another study from the University of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>I found even higher rates. UM. Nine percent of children

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<v Speaker 1>in this study between the ages of thirty, thirty months

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<v Speaker 1>and three years UM had a tantrum on a weekly basis. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it happens. If you had a kid, you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>had it happened. If you don't have kids yet, it

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<v Speaker 1>will happen to you. And if you have a kid

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have tantrums, they're weird. No, you're just lucky. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you are pretty lucky. I wasn't a tantrum thrower. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I was, but I think I was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good kid. Yeah, I'm in saying it never happened

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<v Speaker 1>with me, but I was pretty chill. Yes the gate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in law and sister in law lucked out

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<v Speaker 1>a good kid who's like more hard on herself than

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<v Speaker 1>like they are on her. That's the best self regulating kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's good and she's like right in the age two

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<v Speaker 1>and she's very good. So she's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>weird and all the all the best ways. The good

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<v Speaker 1>news is, um, by the time they reach four or five,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be seeing a large drop off or complete

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<v Speaker 1>cessation of these tantrums. Yeah. And the reason why we

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<v Speaker 1>say the age um, that there is an age for

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<v Speaker 1>this to end, is because we finally figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanisms involved in temperate tantrums. Yeah, it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just my kid's pain in the butter, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad mood, or he's spoiled. It's there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>brain activity that is causing this to happen. Yes, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>in the prefrontal cortex, or we should say there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of activity in the prefrontal cortex, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>last part of the brain to evolve. Yeah, like it

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<v Speaker 1>up until your eighteenth birthday, prefonal cortex is still evolving, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and developing, is I think what we mean? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we do. Both said evolved, but it's true. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Victorians used to think that if you

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<v Speaker 1>looked inside an egg, you would see the animal that

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<v Speaker 1>species go through its full evolution, that that was its

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<v Speaker 1>process of development, And it kind of makes sense to

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<v Speaker 1>an extent, especially if you think of the brain, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the brain stem is the first part of

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<v Speaker 1>the brain to be constructed in utero, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes all the way like after birth. Your

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<v Speaker 1>brain is still developing, and it's probably the most sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>regions of the brain that take the longest to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. So the victorians were right all along

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<v Speaker 1>about throwing up All right, well should we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what the tantrum? That there was a doctor who clearly

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<v Speaker 1>has uh some masochistic tendencies because he did a study

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<v Speaker 1>in which he rigged toddlers with microphones. He's the temper

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<v Speaker 1>tantrum specialist. He's like the guy he's definitely a masochist. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, God bless this guy, because it is not

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<v Speaker 1>fun work to chord and analyze audio tapes of temper

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<v Speaker 1>tantrums over and over and over. But that's what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did find some patterns. First of all, they

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<v Speaker 1>only last a few minutes. Parents, it might seem like

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<v Speaker 1>an eternity there in target while your kid is like

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<v Speaker 1>buried in the clothes rack screaming, But it's only going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a few minutes, and then ten minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>your kid has just probably forgotten about it, even though

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<v Speaker 1>you have not. The He also found that UM, based

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<v Speaker 1>on the types of sounds that the kids made, they

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<v Speaker 1>can basically be classified as sad sounds and angry sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And he found that his name is Michael Protagal, and

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<v Speaker 1>Portagal found that UM, rather than one giving into the

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<v Speaker 1>other leading into the other, they're pretty much simultaneous. And

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<v Speaker 1>then once the anger, it's basically you have sadness all along,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's overlaid with anger. And then once the

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<v Speaker 1>anger subsides, all this left to sadness, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>healing can begin because when kids are sad, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be comforted, so they go to you, the parent

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully yeah, um, and and then the temper tantrum can subside. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he broke it down into three phase three stages. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you get your yelling and screaming. You've got your physical actions,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what we talked about, like throwing yourself on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor, and that's what you typically think of, like

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<v Speaker 1>kicking and screaming, and then um or biting, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your whimpering and whining, which is the third

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<v Speaker 1>and saddest stage right to witness, because the kid has

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<v Speaker 1>just played out at this point and it's really sad. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And protocol also found that if the kid goes straight

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<v Speaker 1>into the physical stage, Yes, the tantrum is even shorter lived.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because they text themselves more quickly. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Uh. And these we talked earlier about Noel's

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<v Speaker 1>tantrum before we came in and how his face is flushed.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something that can happen if they are screaming

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<v Speaker 1>loud enough, they and pop blood vessels in the face

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<v Speaker 1>and capillaries, and they can induce vomiting. It can get

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<v Speaker 1>like really serious and violent and disturbing. Inducing vomiting is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't just wouldn't you just be like, you stupid kid?

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<v Speaker 1>What is wrong with you? You just screamed until you

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<v Speaker 1>threw up? Yeah. I think that's a good approach. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you don't say, certainly think alright, So back, yeah, stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the prefrontal cortex. Uh. We said it develops

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<v Speaker 1>very Uh, I don't know about slowly, but it develops

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of your life until you're about eighteen. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't even start to till you're four and

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<v Speaker 1>they think the reason why, or not necessarily the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why they think. Because of this this malleability and plasticity

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<v Speaker 1>in the prefrontal cortex, we are able to acquire language

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<v Speaker 1>skills as humans. So it's kind of a trade off

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<v Speaker 1>because while we can acquire language skills while our p

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<v Speaker 1>is developing, we don't have the emotional stability that we

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<v Speaker 1>have later on in life with the fully developed PFC,

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<v Speaker 1>because the prefrontal cortex is in charge of regulating our

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<v Speaker 1>emotional stability. Yeah, and basically saying like whoa, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the it's the joey part of the brain, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So your kid, your kid doesn't have the joey part

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<v Speaker 1>of the brain yet. There is since you brought up language,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a um there's a conflict between what the

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<v Speaker 1>kid can understand and then relay back to you at

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<v Speaker 1>that age, like they may be able to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but they can't speak the words yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a really frustrated kid because it can't get

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<v Speaker 1>out what it wants to say. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the prefrontal cortex not doing anything yet, right, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>putting the brakes on. Yeah, so that is a tantrum.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a recipe for a tantrum. And why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you stew on that for a minute while we

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<v Speaker 1>take a message break because that was some heavy stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're back. We just talked about the prefrontal cortex

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<v Speaker 1>and you, Chuck just explained what a temper tantrum is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all have like moments of frustration. We all

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<v Speaker 1>have um times when like we act out a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, this light bulb is supposed to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that kind of thing, or road rage. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an adult temper tantrum exactly, you know, But we have

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<v Speaker 1>prefrontal cortex is we've been socialized to feel embarrassed for

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<v Speaker 1>acting out. Um, if you took that away and shrunk

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<v Speaker 1>us down by several feet, you would have what's a

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<v Speaker 1>normal temper tantrum and kids. Yeah, and we also should

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<v Speaker 1>point out that the fight or flight kicks into a

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<v Speaker 1>big shot of cortis all happens, and so everything is

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<v Speaker 1>just messed up. Like it's a wonder your kid doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have more of these, right when you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>So that frustration, Um, does trigger cortisol. It triggers Norah

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<v Speaker 1>and ephron. Uh, your fight or flight syndrome or responses

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<v Speaker 1>kicked into high gear. And again you have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>put the brakes on all of this. What's interesting is, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the physical signs that the fight or flight

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<v Speaker 1>responses kicked in are also signs that your kids about

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<v Speaker 1>to have like a major meltdown. Things like, um, you're breathing, flesh, skin, sweating, sweating,

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<v Speaker 1>pupils dilated, drooling and spitting. Yeah, all these things where

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<v Speaker 1>I like, you see your kids starting to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you just felling the exorcists gonna blow yes. And the reason, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they stop or at least taper off by the ages

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<v Speaker 1>of four or five is because you're the joey part

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<v Speaker 1>of your brain starts to work and the kid can

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<v Speaker 1>now talk to you and all of these kind of

0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>undo and the kids like that was the problem because

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<v Speaker 1>they can now tell you that, right, I couldn't talk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it smelled like chili dogs all the time, and I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't tell you that. Yeah, in my PFC

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't working. So what am I to do? Just go

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<v Speaker 1>berserk exactly? Um. The thing is is like, yes, your

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<v Speaker 1>kid is going to likely age out of this. If

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<v Speaker 1>your kid doesn't age out of it, then perhaps it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to consult a specialist, say around five six years

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<v Speaker 1>of age, usually six, I think. Um. But along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can help your kid have fewer temper tantrums, have

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<v Speaker 1>less severe temper tantrums, and basically just be a better

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<v Speaker 1>human being in general by how you as the parents

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<v Speaker 1>address the temper tantrums. By telling them they're dumb for

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<v Speaker 1>just throwing up. Just you think that in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say it out loud or else you're a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible parent. If you think it, you're fine, Okay. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one thing you want to do, um, prior

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<v Speaker 1>to temper tantrums is giving the kid a a schedule. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently a lot of the temper tantrums come from

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<v Speaker 1>a fear that somethings that they're not going to get food,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're not gonna get held or at tension or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're on a schedule, they'll know that it's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they start to freak out, you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, your goldfish are coming. It's almost two pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Settled down, you little goldfish. Junkie. Yeah, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>they stress scheduling all lot with kids with like Asperger's

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<v Speaker 1>uh and autism, But it's a big deal. Period. You

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<v Speaker 1>should get your kids on a schedule. Kids like knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what to expect. They don't like balls. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make your own bowl of cereal at age like two,

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<v Speaker 1>the parent needs to take some time and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what's going wrong here with water? Yeah remember that what

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<v Speaker 1>was that Friday's Yeah, when they did that milk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny that you said that is I just remembered yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>What a good movie Friday. Oh yeah, it was really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful. Uh. Okay, So get your kids on a schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. This is this is preventing yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>temper tantrum and that's regular sleep, regular feeding, uh, regular interaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Any kind of thing they can rely on is going

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<v Speaker 1>to help, like chill your kid out and get them stable.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, um, one of the things one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bases of temper tantrums is frustration. Yeah, and one way

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<v Speaker 1>around that is to give your kid make them feel empowered. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this bit of advice. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>spot on. So like in this article, I think Conger says, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if your kid hates putting shoes on, basically distract them

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<v Speaker 1>by saying, hey, big boy, do you want to wear

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<v Speaker 1>your duck boots or your cowboy boots? Yeah? You you

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<v Speaker 1>choose to you. Yeah, sort of like heading them off

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<v Speaker 1>at the templeton. You still have to wear shoes, but

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<v Speaker 1>you get to choose which one. Yeah, I've heard that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty common thing, if acause a lot of kids

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get dressed when they should or put

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<v Speaker 1>on their shoes when they should. And um, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of parents now are like letting their kids dress themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can tell, yeah, but look around. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I think it's great and fun to see

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>little kids walking around in these crazy outfits that they

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<v Speaker 1>clearly picked out. It's like a moment. It's like many

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<v Speaker 1>mental asylums all let out. It's like the Reagan era

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<v Speaker 1>all over again, but for kids. I think it's awesome. Um, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so empowering choices, great advice. So okay, you've taken these

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<v Speaker 1>steps to avoid it, it's still not gonna do. Your

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<v Speaker 1>kids still gonna have a temperature tantrum. It's just you

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<v Speaker 1>can expect it. It's inevitable. Um So, when a temper

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<v Speaker 1>tantrum happens, here's the hard part. You have to stay calm.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently the the advice from parenting experts psychologists is

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<v Speaker 1>ignore it. Yeah, this is not us talking. We've researched this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say to try and ignore it. They say

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<v Speaker 1>that that is the quickest way too, to put an

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<v Speaker 1>end to that particular tantrum. If they're not getting the attention,

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<v Speaker 1>then they will quit sooner. Yeah, and that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>So long as they're not hurting themselves or other people

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<v Speaker 1>or destroying property. If they're just screaming and being a

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<v Speaker 1>brat basically is what it amounts to, then ignoring it

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<v Speaker 1>is the best course of action. Yeah. The reason why is,

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<v Speaker 1>um if you say you are like, oh, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel so bad, and you pick them up and

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<v Speaker 1>you hug them and everything, you're giving your kid positive reinforcement.

0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, hey, scream your head off and I'll pick

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you up and rub your back and comfort you. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that. You want to remain neutral

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<v Speaker 1>and basically not associate this thing with anything during it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would do, especially in public and just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, man, whose kid is that? Right? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go over here and eat a box of neutral green

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<v Speaker 1>bars if i'm myself while this little kid finishes up,

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just pay for it at the register with

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<v Speaker 1>an empty box and it's all good. Um. An sense

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<v Speaker 1>of shape. The other reason, and we're joking around here,

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<v Speaker 1>this is if someone like I have friends who have

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<v Speaker 1>had a big trouble with this and it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>laughing matter. It's really a lot of stress on a family. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine we joke because it's just what we

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<v Speaker 1>always do. Another time, the guy in the grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>gets to go see you later, good luck. Um. Another

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<v Speaker 1>reason not to what like they say, to muffle that

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<v Speaker 1>is because there could be other underlying causes like hearing

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<v Speaker 1>problem or vision vision impairment that you won't notice. Um

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're not, just like you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the kid buried in your chest. Yeah it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you want to ignore it. Let it run

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<v Speaker 1>its natural course, watch it out of like the side

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<v Speaker 1>of your eye, you know. Yeah. Um, Because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to like you really don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>think you're paying any attention to them at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently and when that, when that's done, it just runs

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<v Speaker 1>its course and it's it's over with, and like we

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier, the kid forgets even what was bothering him

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<v Speaker 1>or her, you know, a few minutes afterward. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't want to do is punish the kid

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<v Speaker 1>or reprimand the kid in the middle of a tantrum

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<v Speaker 1>or right after a tantrum, because it's a natural thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen. That is not a healthy approach to

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<v Speaker 1>getting your child to not do something because they're two

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<v Speaker 1>and three years old, and to be punished for something

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that they don't understand, it's just that's not gonna help anything. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So what you do want to do is after a

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<v Speaker 1>meltdown has taken place and things are calm again, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to take some time to explain to the kid

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<v Speaker 1>basically what went wrong or what they didn't do. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>is over the shoes again. You you they've just told

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<v Speaker 1>you we need to talk about shoes again. Right now

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<v Speaker 1>that things are calm, we have to talk about shoe

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<v Speaker 1>was because I just had a meltdown about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>now that they're calm. You have to say you need

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<v Speaker 1>to wear shoes because they protect your feet from all

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the terrible stuff that you can step on. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you have to wear shoes and put them on when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you too. And it's time to leave it

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<v Speaker 1>to them understanding the value of shoes right in a

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<v Speaker 1>very understandable two year old way. Apparently you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to moralize it and say you better not you better

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<v Speaker 1>not pitch a fit when I tell you to put

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes on. Yeah, this happens every morning, right. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't help. It doesn't help. And if your kid the

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<v Speaker 1>next day says, well, I want to pick out my

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<v Speaker 1>shoes at a mom because they protect my feet, then

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<v Speaker 1>you are you get a toy? Yeah, you get a toy,

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<v Speaker 1>big playmobile box set. Well, depending on how much money

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<v Speaker 1>you have, you could at least give them positive reinforcement

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<v Speaker 1>and a cookie yeah boor a pat on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also get a knockoff plood mobile not box set.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. The kid doesn't know. He's too. We got

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<v Speaker 1>so many knockoff toys growing up. Have you seen that

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>gallery of knockoff toys that I made? It's great if

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>you have not seen it go check it out and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had a few of those, did you really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my parents were teachers. We weren't like poor,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't. You know, there were three kids. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't all get everything we wanted. I wanted the BMX

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<v Speaker 1>Mongoose and I got the Sears Goose. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Pong again Sears like yeah, basically Nights of the

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<v Speaker 1>Round Table pretty much. You remember that? Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did look at me. Yeah, I never had brand name clothes. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>unless they had you know, like a button missing or

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the collar was miss shapen or something. Again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I can stress enough how awesome that gallery of

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.880
<v Speaker 1>beloved knockoff knockoffs of beloved toys that we made that's

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>on our site is. It's great. Yeah, we'll repost it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can. You should definitely look under galleries. You

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<v Speaker 1>should dot com. There's some real missus yea. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say I remember going to plenty of stores

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid and being told I could pick out

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<v Speaker 1>a toy, but it was like something liquidators. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like what is this thing? Did you have any rich

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>kid friends? Um? Yeah, they weren't like rich kids, but Yeah,

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 1>there were some parents were like lawyers and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like at a one particular that I was always

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<v Speaker 1>just so like his house was so cool. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a modern house, and back then I'd never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a modern house. And he had, you know, the green

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<v Speaker 1>machine and in television, and horses and a trampoline and

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a go kart and a motorcycle dude. Everything. Yeah, and

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 1>look at him now, he's super successful and wealthy. Yeah,

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>good for him. His parents raised him, right, they did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna hit what you touched on earlier of

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<v Speaker 1>when you might have a problem that's a little deeper

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<v Speaker 1>than your average temper tantrum and they say three or

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<v Speaker 1>more tantrums per day that lasts more than fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>it's could qualify as what is now called in the

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<v Speaker 1>new d s M five disruptive mood disregulation disorder that

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<v Speaker 1>depends that is um that depends on the age two.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a big hubub yeah over this right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was just added to the new d s

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<v Speaker 1>M in two thousand. Yeah, a new disorder, yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>basically it turns temper tantrums into a mental illness, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pure and simple if you were over age six between

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<v Speaker 1>six and ten. Yeah, and you have that number what

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<v Speaker 1>was at three three per day that last fifteen minutes

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>or more or it says here three or more for

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<v Speaker 1>one year, So I think there's a couple of criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>Then anyway, then you are eligible for anti psychotic medications

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and all other manner of prescription drugs even though you're six. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And critics are saying there's not enough data on this

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<v Speaker 1>to create a new diagnosis, Like some critics are saying

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't have done this at all. Proponents are saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this will actually help because kids are being diagnosis bipolar

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<v Speaker 1>at six and this will prevent that. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little awkward right now. But it's funny that they bring

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<v Speaker 1>up bipolar because when they when they expanded and basically

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>created children's bipolar disorder, pediatric bipolar disorder is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>UM When they expanded that, there was a fortyfold spike

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<v Speaker 1>in diagnoses, and as a result, the antipsychotic prescriptions for

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>kids aged two to five doubled between two thousand and

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven. So there's a definite trend of any

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<v Speaker 1>time a new disorder is identified or described everything I've

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>got that my kids they won't shut up. Can you

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>give them some anti psychotics please? Yeah? And uh, the

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>psychiatrists is sure right because he has this, because he

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.400
<v Speaker 1>fits this criteria. Yeah. It's definitely been a controversial addition

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<v Speaker 1>to the d S m as are many additions to

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<v Speaker 1>the d S m uh. But that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that there isn't a larger issue at work, because some

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of the times there is. So they want to teach

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you his parents to monitor maybe don't like go put

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>them on psycho psychotropic drugs, but maybe monitor them after

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the age of four and see how violent they are

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and how long they last, and are they trying to

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<v Speaker 1>injure themselves or others? Are they holding their breath and

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>feigning like how severe is it? Um? Which is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing breath? Apparently the understanding of that now though, is

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that kids don't necessarily hold them their breaths on purpose,

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like it just kind of happens to they forget to breathe,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they get so worked up that they freathe yeah, and faint.

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>And apparently when your kid does that, for reek's parents

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<v Speaker 1>out and then kids to learn that if they hold

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>their breath or even threatened to hold their breath, they'll

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>get what they want. But apparently, if your kid holds

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>his or her breath or it's held for them when

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>they faint, their normal breathing will take over again, and

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>as a parent, you can kick start the whole process

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>by blowing air into their mouth. It almost like tickles

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>their breathing mechanism to take back over normally again even

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>though they fainted. And the advice is that I read

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that if your kid is feigning from holding his or

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>her breath during a tantrum, you can't let that alter

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>your your parenting skills, like how you react to it. Yeah,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't be held hostage by it. Man, that's so challenging.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine because your kid faints, it's bad news. Yeah,

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hats offen, That's like going back to the

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>shark again. Good luck remembering to punch the shark in

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the nose while you're paying attack. Yeah, but that is

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a that is a criteria. If your kid is doing

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<v Speaker 1>this now and it's new and or like after age four,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and their tantrums are increasing rather than decreasing, these are

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>all red flags for Okay, this, this may be abnormal.

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And let's see what's going on. The first step isn't

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily taking your kid to psychiatrists for drugs. It can.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You can also do a self survey of your house, like, uh,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is there a new step parent? Um, do we move recently?

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Am I an alcoholic? And do we always fight? Yeah?

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You know it happens where parents and kind of like kids,

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't even they don't understand what's going on.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>We keep the fighting away from them, but they understand

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and they pick up on body language and emotional cues

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that you don't think are there, and they're little sponges,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and that could be a reason if uh, did you

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>mention maybe if you've moved. Yeah, yeah, that's a big one.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I said moved. Yeah, did his best friend

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>get a better bike than him or something? Right, you

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>need to go get that bike then too. But the

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>point is to not be freaked out by isolated incidences

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>past the age of four, uh, because they they happen,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and um, it's not a typical You just need and

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if your kid has a problem with this, As parents,

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you probably have a plan in place, like you're not

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>just reacting to each incident, like you get together and

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you huddle and be like, all right, we have an

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>issue because little Timmy is a nightmare, and so how

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>are we going to deal with this? And then let's

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>stick to it. If little Timmy also is breaking your

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>humble figurines all the time now, then good because those

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>are awful, then um, well, that's actually it can be

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a sign, but it's not necessarily a sign. Right. For example,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>there is a study that had a pretty decent population

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>size from two seven research temper tantrums among two hundred

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and seventy nine preschoolers almost two preschoolers um and uh.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>They found that kids who are considered healthy um had

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>were less likely to become violent, self injurious, destructive, or

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>verbally combative like during their ten for tantrums. But it's

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>also been found that around of quote mentally stable preschoolers

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>will still become you know, one of these unhealthy things

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>during a temper tantrum from time to time. It's not

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like there goes a homo figuring you have to go

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to the psychiatrist now. Or if your kid like rips

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the head off their barbie in a violent way, that

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>might be disturbing to you, but that is about as

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>normal American behavior as has ever been generated by a child. Yeah,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>if your kid is being mean to animals, that's a

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>different story, because that that is uh, you know, it's

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>not a good sign. And it's certainly you want to

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>stop any kind of uh like violent aggression towards humans

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>or animals. Like that's not like, oh, let's just see

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>how'll put this plays out. You want to get in

0:30:51.320 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>there take care of business. Yeah, in the right way. Fish.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So you raise your kid, you get them out of

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the terrible two's. Age four comes along, and all of

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, they're like talking to you and making sense

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and expressing themselves. They're able to settle themselves down. Um,

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>they they they're just human beings. You made it out

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of the woods until the teenage years come, and then

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it starts all over again. Yes, and then it starts

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>all over again. For the same reason. The prefrontal cortex

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>undergoes a new round of development during puberty from age

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>about eleven to eighteen, and as a result, the emotional

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>breaks that are provided by that region of the brain

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>are lost again for several years. Yeah. And it's also

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>similar in that teenagers might not feel like they can

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>express themselves even though like as a toddler you literally

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>can't talk, but as a teen, you know, parents just

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. That's the old adage. And you've got the hormones,

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>and you've got new things happening to your body, and

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got new things happening in your heart for you know,

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the little girls and little boys. You start feeling those

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>feelings and it's confusing, and it's just it's it's all

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>happening all over again, all these things you don't understand

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and can't express, and then you've got your prefemal cortex

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>not helping you out. And that's why you're going to

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>see the same similar behaviors at least. It's basically temper

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>tantrums the sequel. Yeah, And it may not manifest itself

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the same way. They may not be on the floor

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like kicking and screaming and vomiting, but they may rampage

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>through your house and slam the doors and scream and

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>yell and uh. They'll grow out of that though, And

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>again if they don't, then psychiatry is there to back

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you up with some diagnoses and pills. There's oppositional defiant disorder, yeah,

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>which is basically it sounds like temper tantrums. That it

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>sounds like temper tantrums, basically the same thing. Yeah. This

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>study from University of San Diego was pretty interesting. I

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>thought they studied kids between the ages of ten and

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. It's not a kid, by the way, and

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>um between eleven and eighteen years old. During that window,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the speed that they identified emotions indicated by facial expressions dropped.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So between ten and eighteen, if you're like your kid

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>can't even look at your face and read your emotional cues, Like,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that's how out of it they are, you know? Yeah,

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>teenagers like I couldn't even tell Dad was mad at me. Yes,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>because the wires aren't connecting upstairs. And apparently the prefecial

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>corps prefernal cortex is also involved in um regulating behavior. Yeah,

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>which explains why teenagers are prone to like risk taking. Well, yeah,

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>because if the pre phone cortex isn't doing the job,

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>then I think the amygdala takes over, and the amygdala

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>is is not a good thing to be running your

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>emotions running the show, No, not emotionally. So, are you

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>got anything else you want to talk about? That girl

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.959
<v Speaker 1>from Millieville? Yeah, go ahead, I'll actually read that part.

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>There was a girl, UH who in two thousand and twelve, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of six, was arrested and taken to

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the police station from her kindergarten class because the temper

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>tantrum she threw was so bad she was wrecking her

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>kindergarten class. She was taken to jail for a temper

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>tantrum like knocking over bookcases onto the principle, yeah, and

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>injuring the principle yeah. Um. And she apparently was just

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>on a rampage and the cops took her to jail,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't book her process or anything, but I'm sure scared

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the daylights out of this little girl. And the school

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>said she can't come back the rest of this year.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>She's just invited. Yeah. Luckily it was in April, so

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I imagine there was only a couple of months left

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to school. Still, so we hope she's doing better. Sure,

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we won't say her name. We didn't say her name, Tony, Nope,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the article does, which I thought was slightly irresponsible. Oh,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>she was a news item. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, Hey,

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be in the news. Little girl,

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>right to you that's it, all right. If you want

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about temper tantrums, you can procreate and

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>have a kid and then see it firsthand. That's right.

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0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.200
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this UH positive amnesia. Hey, guys, Nearly

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>five years ago was in and uh Portland, Oregon. I

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was in a near fatal motorcycle wreck that not only

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>knocked my brain around in my full face helmet, but

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>also shattered my pelvis, broke two ribs too, vertebrae, left wrist,

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>right thumb, left collarbone is showing all I know, Evil kinevil.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I was in the hospital for two weeks, but only

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<v Speaker 1>remember bits and pieces of the last few days of

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.959
<v Speaker 1>my stay, though I was mostly awake the whole time.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>The doctors told me that nearly UH I had a

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>nearly two week gap in my memory, and it was

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a combination of shock and medically induced amnesia. I learned

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot about the different kinds of amnesia from your

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 1>show in ways that my team of doctor never took

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the time to explain me. But I didn't. You're like, yeah,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that always happens. But I didn't hear you mentioned any

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>positive effects of memory loss. Uh, through my memory loss,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it did not. Though my memory loss did not prevent

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>severe ps PTSD after the incident. I think it is

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>all to manly help me be less afraid of red

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>light running land rovers. I think we did mention that

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 1>it was that was one positive effect of it. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>did we I think so? Maybe not. Well, if we're not,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>then we're glad that. Adrian wrote in he said, Um, also,

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the additional trauma of remembering the numerous

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>surgeries and operations. Your podcast made ampniesia sound confusing and scary,

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 1>which it is. But I'm living proof that sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>best if you don't remember. Well, Thanks a lot, Adrian.

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad you are doing okay. Yeah, be careful, man,

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>watch out for those land rovers. Yeah, red light running

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>land rovers. Hope they hope the dude got in trouble. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. If you if you want to

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