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Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John, This is Alien Sam on the

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Speaker 1: International Okay Storytime podcast station, and we have some human

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Speaker 1: stories coming up, not alien, but before we make a landing,

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Speaker 1: stick around for this two minute not alien ad break

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Speaker 1: before we get to these interstellar stories.

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Speaker 2: I think my girlfriend is a stalker stalker I hardly

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Speaker 2: know her. Say, probably trigger warding for stalking, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: also cly trigger warning for stalking, a lot of trigger

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Speaker 2: warnings for stockings. I'm asking this to see if I'm

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Speaker 2: the one who's completely lost my mind here. My twenty

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Speaker 2: eight male girlfriend twenty five female has this dream journal.

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Speaker 3: She's always writing it. I thought it was cute, you know,

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Speaker 3: expressing her inner world and all that. She claims it

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Speaker 3: can help her understand her subconscious better, which made sense

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Speaker 3: to me. But homie just found out what journaling is like.

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Speaker 3: It's actually kind of cool. By the way, this story

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Speaker 3: comes from ames to her name, and if you want

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Speaker 3: to submit her own stories, go to the r slash

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Speaker 3: Okay Storytime subbured it. So anyway, last night she accidentally

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Speaker 3: left it open at her bedside table.

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Speaker 2: Italics because it feels like this is from the journal.

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Speaker 2: It's an excerpt.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, I wasn't trying to snoop, but a page was

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Speaker 3: open and a phrase caught my eye. Ten seventeen am.

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Speaker 3: He got coffee with two sugars, just like I knew

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Speaker 3: he would. My stomach dropped. Oh, I glanced at another entry.

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Speaker 2: Why as she timing all of these?

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Speaker 3: Three forty five pm? Called his mom? Sounded a little stressed.

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Speaker 3: Must remember to bring up the job thing later. This

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Speaker 3: wasn't a dream journal. It was a play by play

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Speaker 3: of my day. Every single entry was about me, my movements,

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Speaker 3: my conversations, even one she wasn't present for, Oh, my habits.

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Speaker 3: It was incredibly long and detailed, almost like a surveillance log.

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Speaker 2: Dude, dude, she's a spy.

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Speaker 4: She's not a spy. She's not a stalker. She's having

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Speaker 4: prophetic visions in her dreams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like at three point one, he's going

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Speaker 2: to the store, and You're like, how does she know

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Speaker 2: that she's stalking me?

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Speaker 4: No, she saw it, or she's a time traveler, dang it.

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Speaker 2: And she's like has to remember all of.

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Speaker 4: The Yeah, this is just back to the future where

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Speaker 4: Doc Brown's like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the clocks? It's eight o'clock. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: behind there's so many different explanations. O pee, let's not

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Speaker 2: jump to the most obvious.

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Speaker 3: I have not confronted her yet because I'm genuinely trying

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Speaker 3: to find out if this is some bizarre form of

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Speaker 3: affection I'm not understanding, or if I should be calling

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Speaker 3: my therapist and maybe looking into changing my locks. Am

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Speaker 3: I overreacting by feeling deeply, deeply creeped out? Is this

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Speaker 3: a normal girlfriend thing I'm just too dense to grasp

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Speaker 3: or is this a massive red flag waving in my face?

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Speaker 2: I think it's really funny that he's like, is.

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Speaker 4: This just normal?

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Speaker 2: Does everyone's girlfriends take detailed notes of their day to day?

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Speaker 4: Buddy? I think I think your gut has the answer

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Speaker 2: Also, like Amanda Foxy's comment of it's Sophia amplified, which

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Speaker 2: took me a second, but then I realized you were

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Speaker 2: talking about my prophetic dreams.

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Speaker 4: Right there we go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like.

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Speaker 3: I was also like, wait, what, you're right, because yours

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Speaker 3: my visions.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start doing this every time I'm doing the

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Speaker 2: psych thing.

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Speaker 4: Gene, I need you, Gene, let me in. We're referencing

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Speaker 4: X men for everyone who might be confused. Liked Sophia.

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Speaker 2: I've seen how do You You can't be confused by that?

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Speaker 2: I've seen X Men, Days of Future Past.

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Speaker 5: Good movie.

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Speaker 3: I really like her and I haven't had any major

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Speaker 3: issues with our relationship. She's like the sweetest person ever

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Speaker 3: and hasn't shown any signs of being crazy.

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Speaker 4: But now I'm a little scared for my safety. What

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Speaker 4: do I do? I don't we have an update.

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Speaker 2: I need to see these excerpts, you know. I need

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Speaker 2: to know what she's saying. I need to know where

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Speaker 4: It's like, it really does. I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: It depends on like the context of Like if she's saying,

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Speaker 3: like he got coffee, he had a conversation, I remember

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Speaker 3: to bring that up later, Like that's a little concerning.

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Speaker 4: But if she's like I yearned to know what his

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Speaker 4: bones feel like inside my body.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of concerning.

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Speaker 3: That feels like you want to wear me like a

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Speaker 2: There are levels, there are levels to the crazy. It

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Speaker 2: could just be she is maybe a little neurodivergent, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know how to bring up conversation stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I will learn as much as I can about

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, though, no matter what, stalking is a

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Speaker 4: red flag. No, no, I really to be.

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Speaker 3: Clear, probably being got by following you around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be clear, still a red flag. I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: The severity ranges from she just doesn't know what to

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Speaker 2: say and needs conversation topics and is doing it in

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Speaker 2: a really creepy way. Right, So he says, love bombing

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Speaker 2: also possible, or she's maybe gonna try and hurt you,

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Speaker 2: or we should run away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get into this update. So I followed the

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Speaker 3: advice so of one user woe Bred thirty five, which

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Speaker 3: suggested that I ask her what she's writing about while

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Speaker 3: she's in the middle of writing, like you I man,

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Speaker 3: and she's like, well, I overheard you talking earlier today

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Speaker 2: Now he's like, what are you writing about? And she's like,

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Speaker 2: writing about. He's sitting in the chair, mmmm.

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Speaker 4: Do and she just like looks at him expectantly.

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Speaker 2: Like continue, and he's like, are you as.

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Speaker 4: He then asked me if a court reporter, she's got

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Speaker 3: I was on the couch reading a book when I

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Speaker 3: I asked her what she was writing about and why

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Speaker 3: even gone to sleep yet. You ruin my dream journal.

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Speaker 3: She told me that she doesn't always use it for

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Speaker 3: She said that she knows how bad it looks, and

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Speaker 3: that her journal is meant to be a relationship sink journal,

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Speaker 3: as she called it. She says that humans rarely scratch

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Speaker 3: the surface of truly understanding each other, even when they're

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Speaker 3: in relationships. She says her goal is to achieve a

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Speaker 3: deep and intuitive connection with me. Basically, she wants to

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Speaker 3: putting two sugars in my coffee. Which I don't even

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Speaker 2: That one, if it wasn't connected to all like the

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Speaker 2: it's I I not this in connection to this story

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Speaker 2: sounds weird, but I write notes about my friends and saying,

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Speaker 4: So her friendship sink journal, friendship sink journal.

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Speaker 3: While I do kind of agree with your notion that

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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it's like a lot of people never

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Speaker 3: even really get to know each other, Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 4: The way that you.

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Speaker 3: Do that, yeah, is by being talking to them to

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Speaker 2: I was only talking about the part about writing down

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Speaker 4: No, no, she's not condoning an absolute this.

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Speaker 2: I think that she's going about this the like in

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Speaker 2: a really bad way. Like if you want to intuitively

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Speaker 2: know someone that takes time, that takes hours spent together,

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Speaker 2: like I feel, I think Sam and I have a

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Speaker 3: Yeap.

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Speaker 2: Just the other day he asked me where something was

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Speaker 2: they were like, the thing that doesn't you didn't tell

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Speaker 2: It's time. It's not trying to hack the system.

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Speaker 3: Right, There's not like a secret algorith of them you

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Speaker 3: can make with all this information. It's gonna like make

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Speaker 3: It sounds absolutely insane, but when she was explaining it,

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Speaker 3: But if she truly wanted us to be in sync,

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Speaker 3: why didn't she ask me to also track her movements?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really thought that was gonna be Why

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Speaker 4: Who I idolized growing up? Like this is not what

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Speaker 2: If a boyfriend snuggled in for a shoulder I can't

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Speaker 2: to intuitively dream together so y'all can be in each

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Speaker 2: other's head even when you're apart. Honestly, that sounds kind

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Speaker 3: See you're trying to make a joke, but I could tell.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's actually gonna get hurt. Really good,

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Speaker 3: He'd be like, I'm gonna marry that guy if some

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you can dream the same dream now since

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Speaker 2: Each other, Like, canna say that to me?

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Speaker 4: That cry? No, she's gonna cry someone that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, let's get back to it.

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Speaker 5: That's wild. Look how red I am. Oh my god, Sophia,

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Speaker 5: that's not how it works. But oh, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: that might be.

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Speaker 3: That might be one of the funniest things I think

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Speaker 4: This guy's being like, why didn't my girlfriend ask me

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Speaker 3: If she was really serious about this, she would have

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Speaker 4: How does this strengthen our connection?

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Speaker 3: If she knows me to this extreme of an extent

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Speaker 3: when I don't know her to that extent. Part of

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Speaker 3: me almost wishes that she just said she would stalking me.

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Speaker 3: But this explanation almost leaves me feeling more confused. I'm torn,

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Speaker 2: I think that it could be.

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Speaker 4: It's like, is she a little bit weird because it's.

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Speaker 2: See, now this is a breach of trust. This is

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Speaker 2: No, oh, I was saying. I was saying, I thought

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Speaker 2: And then he said that the conversations that she wasn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just off putting. Yeah, she's off putting. And

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Speaker 2: Six's taking notes about your height and your weight.

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Speaker 4: I have an entire sub section based on your bowel movement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, heart rate, please put this on. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I may have hacked your little no free sponsors, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I'm gonna need to take some of

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Speaker 3: Your biometrics are an absolute must since I primarily work

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't just one relationship sink journal, but five of them,

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Speaker 3: completely filled with entries dating back a year before we

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Speaker 2: No, oh yeah, bye, bye bye, out of there. Out,

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Speaker 3: Oh, I actually am running away. I'm ghosting this person.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving immediately.

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Speaker 4: Wait, no, don't. You can't ghost No, because she'll finally

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Speaker 2: You have to have a conversation. Okay, I'm leaving you.

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Speaker 2: This is totally not okay.

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Speaker 4: You go.

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Speaker 3: Everything that I thought that we were is a lie,

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Speaker 3: and i've been. You have reduced me, in my mind

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Speaker 3: We had known each other through friends before dating, so

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Speaker 3: had minor cordial encounters. She's been tracking my Facebook for

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Speaker 2: This is terrifying. This is truly so scary girl.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you use all this mental energy.

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Speaker 2: To make some money. Think of the two pounds she's

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Speaker 2: plot Opie's life to hardest organs. I hope not. I

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Speaker 3: There was also an entry about my ex girlfriend, where

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Speaker 4: To please me better. Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 2: Totally insane because if she wanted to know him better.

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Speaker 2: If that was her goal, then you ask You ask

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Speaker 3: Dude. Op, he's girlfriend doesn't even sleep. Yeah, Obi goes

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Speaker 4: His leg twitched and it was the perfect twitch.

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Speaker 2: Like this is this is terrifying.

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Speaker 4: Everything is terrifying, and I want to be No.

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Speaker 2: So somebody should make this a horror movie. Honestly, that

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Speaker 3: There's no headlines where it's like someone's dating someone, but

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Speaker 3: Sorry in hyper analyzing mode, Okayti, but all I can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, never ever, ever, ever watched The Invisible Man.

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Speaker 3: She also has entries analyzing my reactions to certain things,

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Speaker 4: There's no way she doesn't know about this Reddit post.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in her whole life forever and ever and ever.

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Speaker 4: Definitely have Yeah, somebody, do not be alone. Update number three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like that the first guy. You should

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Speaker 3: and afterwards I heard him laughing on the other end

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Speaker 3: of the phone. It wasn't a laugh like he thought

443
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Speaker 3: it was funny. It was more like a laugh of

444
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Speaker 3: disbelief this had happened again.

445
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Speaker 2: Oh.

446
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: He then told me he had a similar experience with her,

447
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 3: but she never journaled around him and they didn't live

448
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: together for him to find any journals, so the journal

449
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: thing was new just for me, apparently, But he did

450
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: recall her knowing things that she shouldn't know sometimes. He

451
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: also mentioned that things in his apartment would go missing

452
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Speaker 3: and then suddenly reappear, when he would swear that he

453
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Speaker 3: never touched them. At the time, he was more concerned

454
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Speaker 3: about a ghost or something than his girlfriend, But he

455
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: said he started to feel suffocated by her after a

456
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Speaker 3: while and chose to break things off with her after that.

457
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Speaker 3: That's when the story started to take a turn. Apparently,

458
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Speaker 3: a week after they broke up, she showed up at

459
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Speaker 3: his house and told him that she's pregnant. WHOA, I

460
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Speaker 3: don't believe her, Sophia doesn't believe women.

461
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that woman.

462
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I don't believe that one.

463
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that specific woman.

464
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Speaker 4: He said.

465
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Speaker 3: He decided to give her a second chance, but after

466
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Speaker 3: a few weeks he noticed that one of her friends

467
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: had posted a snapchat of her at a bar drinking

468
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Speaker 3: after work. That's when he can fronted her and she

469
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Speaker 3: admitted that she had faked the pregnancy to get him

470
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Speaker 3: back crazy.

471
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Speaker 4: That's when he.

472
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Speaker 3: Broke things off with her and told her to never

473
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Speaker 3: contact him again. He said he didn't hear from her

474
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Speaker 3: again after that. But by the way, you can hear

475
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Speaker 3: from us whenever you want. Bye listening to full episodes

476
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Speaker 3: with stories just like this on Spotify or iHeartRadio or

477
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Speaker 3: Apple podcasts where wherever he listened to podcasts?

478
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Speaker 4: Why do they have to search Sophia.

479
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Speaker 2: Oh just okay, story times.

480
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Speaker 3: I'm just the name of our show. It's just us,

481
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Speaker 3: so we have a little bit of story left here.

482
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Speaker 2: Wow. I honestly think someone earlier said that you could

483
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Speaker 2: potentially get a restraining order because you have the proof

484
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Speaker 2: of the journals, and I think that's a good idea.

485
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Speaker 2: I think you have proof that she's done this before

486
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Speaker 2: to someone else, man, you have proof that she's currently

487
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Speaker 2: doing it to you. I would break up with her.

488
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: I would break up with her with someone there. Change

489
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Speaker 2: your locks, see if you can, you know, get to

490
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Speaker 2: a safe place, because it seems like you guys live together,

491
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: so make sure you have a safe place that she

492
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Speaker 2: doesn't know about. Uh, she'll probably find out, but make

493
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Speaker 2: sure she starts off not knowing yeah, and then yeah,

494
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Speaker 2: begin the process of separating. And also, now you know

495
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Speaker 2: that she'll use the pregnancy thing. So if she says

496
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Speaker 2: to you after you break out with her, yeah, I'm pregnant,

497
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Speaker 2: you have to stay with me, you know that that's

498
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Speaker 2: a lie.

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Speaker 3: I would look into the cybersecurity Yeah protocols.

500
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Speaker 2: Amy Lady's change password. Mm hmm.

501
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Speaker 4: Yes.

502
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Speaker 3: He said that months later he had found a camera

503
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Speaker 3: in his smoke detector when he was changing.

504
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Speaker 4: The batteries for it.

505
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Speaker 3: He said he knew it was her, but couldn't prove it.

506
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Speaker 3: I told him about her telling me to block him,

507
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 3: and he said she must have made me do that

508
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: because she knew that he would warn me if he

509
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: found out she had a boyfriend. I'm going to call

510
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Speaker 3: movers to arrange for them to come pick up my

511
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Speaker 3: stuff while she is at work. I'm not even going

512
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Speaker 3: to tell her. I don't think I'm going to be

513
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: able to find movers until next week, though, So my

514
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Speaker 3: plan is to just try to play things off over

515
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Speaker 3: the next few days.

516
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Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story. And I

517
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Speaker 4: think I got it amazing.

518
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Speaker 3: Definitely maybe ghost her trying to just disappear off the

519
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Speaker 3: face of the earth and that's that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should block. I mean I think

521
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: you should talk to her and then break up with

522
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Speaker 2: her personally. But again I've already said with the person

523
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Speaker 2: there that you trust, then make sure you have an

524
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Speaker 2: exit plan since you live together, Yes, start looking into

525
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: new apartments if you can, just us see if you

526
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: can break your lease, anything that gets you away from her,

527
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Speaker 2: especially because of the whole camera stuff, like there's probably

528
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Speaker 2: cameras in your apartment.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, yeah, I would do like the sweep, do the

530
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Speaker 4: uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story. So we're gonna

532
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Speaker 2: get into the next one.

533
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Speaker 4: Sam here og host. We're gonna get back to these stories.

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Speaker 2: First, I think my girlfriend's parents planted something in my

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Speaker 2: bag and now I want out.

537
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Speaker 2: I am twenty two female and my girlfriend is twenty

539
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Speaker 2: one female. We have been in a same gender relationship

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Speaker 2: for two and a half years, and we are both

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Speaker 2: very healthy individuals sick. My girlfriend comes from a wealthy

542
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Speaker 2: family and often goes on luxurious international vacations with them.

543
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Speaker 2: The last two times they've traveled abroad. I stayed at

544
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Speaker 2: their place to dog sit. Her family is incredible and

545
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Speaker 2: treats me like one of their own, doing so much

546
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Speaker 2: for me. Meanwhile, I come from a poor background and

547
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Speaker 2: never went on family vacations. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 3: So.

553
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Speaker 2: I just graduated college in May and will start my

554
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Speaker 2: job in July. I work tirelessly to land this job

555
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Speaker 2: without annie family connections, paying my own way through college

556
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Speaker 2: while working to cover rent and tuition. Here's where it

557
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: gets tricky. I can't help but feel envious of her life.

558
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: She never has to worry about money and can do

559
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Speaker 2: whatever she wants whenever she wants. She's amazing, not stuck

560
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: up at all, and fully aware of her privilege. She

561
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: often pays for us when we get out. Yet I

562
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: can't shake this jealousy about her ability to float through

563
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: life effortlessly while I have to grind and start my

564
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: adult life immediately after college. Because it's not about anything

565
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: she does, I don't know how to bring it up

566
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: to her to make matters more complicated. She will be

567
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: studying abroad in Scotland this year, and if I had

568
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: the same opportunity, I would take it in a heartbeat,

569
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: But I just don't have that privilege. Our relationship is secure.

570
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: We are able to communicate openly about any issues that

571
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: are eyes besides this one lol. She loves me for

572
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: who I am and never makes me feel obligated to

573
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: buy lavish things for her. When she pays for things,

574
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: she does so out of kindness and never makes me

575
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: feel belittled. She understands my financial situation and never judges

576
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Speaker 2: me for it. Her family is newly wealthy. Her dad

577
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: grew up poor and made a name for himself as

578
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: an MD. They just hit Bring It in a million

579
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: in this year and are continuing to expand.

580
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

581
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: They have never asked me to join their family vacations,

582
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: but her parents have paid for things related to my

583
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: college experience and are currently helping me furnish my first apartment.

584
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: Her dad also gives me a lot of valuable financial advice,

585
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: which I am very grateful for. How do I cope

586
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: with these feelings of jealousy and frustration? And there is

587
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: an update folks, But it's tricky, I think to be

588
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: around people who have different access to different things than you,

589
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: and I don't want to like it is normal to

590
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: have those feelings of jealousy. However, it isn't your girlfriend's fault,

591
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: so it is something that you need to deal with.

592
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you want to say it's your

593
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: girlfriend's fault, it's like, well, just she exists.

594
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: She exists, and she has different opportunities than you do,

595
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: and that's just how it is.

596
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: We have to be masters of our own emotions, in

597
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: our own feelings.

598
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it to take some level of personal accountability for that,

599
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: m M. And then that actually frees you because then

600
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: once you take full responsibility for all your feelings and

601
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: even if guys, not all of your feelings are you

602
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: just going to come from you, Some of your feelings

603
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: are like coming from outside stuff. Yeah, but if you

604
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: just take all the responsibility for it, you were down

605
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: free because they're yours.

606
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I would necessarily say, like talk,

607
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: tell her about this. I don't know. I'm kind of

608
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: on the fence on this because it's kind.

609
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: Of happened to me.

610
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: But I mean, not like this, but yeah, I had

611
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: to bring that up to an X of mine where

612
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: it's like we were both actors and she booked something

613
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: and I got really really jealous about it, and I

614
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: was like, I honestly wanted to be happy for you there,

615
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: but I wasn't.

616
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: I was more like mad than it wasn't me.

617
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to just put that out there because

618
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to feel that way.

619
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Speaker 2: I think that would be a good way to say it,

620
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 2: because she clearly isn't doing anything too, you know, like

621
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: if there was something specific, like if she was flaunting

622
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: it and always like paying for things and giving all

623
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: these expensive gifts and then expecting you also to get

624
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: like that would be something to bring up. But I

625
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: feel or to address and fix. But here maybe it's

626
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: just saying I add these feelings, not your faults. I'm

627
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: working on them. That might be the best move. But yeah,

628
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: it's it's not her fault. So it's definitely just like

629
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: a first step is understanding that those feelings are from you.

630
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: They're coming from you, not from any other you know,

631
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: thing that she's doing. So yeah, it's normal.

632
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: Don't beat yourself up too hard either, because you're not

633
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: your feelings and you're not your thoughts like you know,

634
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: yeah they're not.

635
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: This is also happy, you know, this has happened to

636
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: me where I've I've had you know, been jealous of

637
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: a friend for whatever reason, and then you just have

638
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: to be like, okay, that would let's put a stopper

639
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: on that, because they're not doing anything wrong.

640
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 4: Get the flamethrower and go and insiderate it.

641
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: But there is an update. My girlfriend with female twenty

642
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: four is getting her dog and her parents financially support

643
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: her while she's in school. The issue is they use

644
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: the support to control every aspect of her life. Oh whoa,

645
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: this story took a turn where she can live, how

646
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: much time she can spend with me, Female twenty four,

647
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: and even the places she's allowed to go over time.

648
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Though a lot of reflection and conversations with me, she

649
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: realized this isn't normal and plans to fully distance herself

650
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: once she secures a stable job that can help pay

651
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: for her degree. We've been together for three years. Wasn't

652
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: it two years before we've jumped a year?

653
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

654
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, sometimes people change a little piece of

655
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: information for anonymity or whatever.

656
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: And as time has passed, her parents have started trying

657
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: to control aspects of my life as well. I grew

658
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: up poor and have always financially supported myself. I used

659
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: to drive a Beater car that finally gave out, and

660
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: for Christmas, her parents gifted me one of their cars.

661
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: While I was incredibly grateful, I always felt like there

662
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: were strings attached. For instance, the car isn't registered in

663
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 2: my name, which created issues when trying to renew the registration.

664
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: It also has an app that allows remote access starting

665
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: the car, tracking its location, etc. Yikes, what I wouldn't

666
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: want that. No, no, no. I never asked for access

667
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: because I knew they were using it to keep tabs

668
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: on me. Tikes. I even got a text from my

669
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: girlfriend's dad once letting me know I had left the

670
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: car door unlocked, confirming to me that they definitely monitor.

671
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, is this your car? My car? Yeah?

672
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Is this your car my car? That's the question you

673
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: need to ask. And if they say this is our car,

674
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: you go, all right, take it back, take it back? Yeah,

675
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: take you back to take it back. I thought that

676
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: was a gift. I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood it.

677
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: Recently, I applied for a job in the city where

678
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: my girlfriend and her parents live. Since my girlfriend is

679
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: currently abroad for her doctorate, she wasn't home when I

680
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: stayed with her parents for my first round of interviews.

681
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: While I was there, they kept pushing the idea of

682
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: me living with them to save money to buy a house.

683
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: I was polite and considered it in conversation, but I

684
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: knew that wasn't something I wanted. During my visit, my

685
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: girlfriend's friends invited me to go out to a few

686
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: bars one night, but her mom had an issue with

687
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: me being out late, so I ended up not going.

688
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: What was your girlfriend going out?

689
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: This is strange. There's way too much power. Yeah, dynamic,

690
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: very hikey, very ikey. It's strange.

691
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Now here's where I need perspective. I flew home that

692
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Sunday with just to carry on bag. I did an

693
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: unpack right away, and when I finally did laundry on Tuesday,

694
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: I found a rusty pocket knife in my load of clothes.

695
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: I was completely confused because a pocket knife is not

696
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: something I own or have seen before. I sent a

697
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: picture to my girlfriend to see if it might belong

698
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: to her brother and had accidentally gotten mixed up in

699
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: my stuff. She said she'd never seen it before, and

700
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: sent it to her family group chat to ask if

701
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: it was theirs?

702
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Did they plant a rusty knife in your clothes? They

703
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: plant evidence of a crime. In sounds like it they

704
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: committed a crime.

705
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: And they were like, Ah, I gotta get ope in

706
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: trouble for this.

707
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: That's why they're tracking your car, because they're gonna call

708
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: the office. You're they're gonna be like, oh, yeah.

709
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: This is girl. She she is sorry, Yeah, this girl,

710
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: she's got the knife.

711
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: We know it.

712
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: Don't ask us how we know she has it.

713
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: WIT's an anonymous tip? What happened to anonymous tips?

714
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: Her parents' responses were, Mom, what, LMO? I didn't give

715
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: her any laundry, and it's dirty on top of that,

716
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: so I definitely wouldn't give us something dirty, LMO. Think

717
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: about it. Love. That's kind of concerning because she didn't

718
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: check her luggage last time she was here. She carried on.

719
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: She would have been in trouble. Dad, ooh nice contraband,

720
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: and she flew with it. This is the most obvious

721
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: setup ever. Also, you are the most cornball person. For

722
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: you just what cornball people? Their first reaction wasn't confusion.

723
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't. I've never seen that before. It was immediately

724
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: defensive and focused on how I could have got in

725
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: trouble at the airport. I had ann thought about the

726
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: fact that I flew with it. I was just trying

727
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: to figure out where it came from. But the reaction

728
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: combined with everything else as me spiraling. I can't shake

729
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: the feeling that they might have planted it in my

730
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: bag to try and get me in trouble. Now I

731
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: understand they planted in the bag before the flight.

732
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you weren't picking up on that.

733
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I understood right.

734
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: Then they were trying to plant this and give her

735
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: a felony.

736
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, wow, which is yeah, extra crazy.

737
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah cool.

738
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, they have the plausible deniability,

739
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: but it's like, at this point, I go to my

740
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: girlfriend if I'm op, and I'm like, your parents are

741
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: literally trying to ruin my life now.

742
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have.

743
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 2: To take that conversation about jealousy they.

744
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Were breaking up. We are either a team against them

745
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: or I'm leaving. Yeah, and you it's I don't even

746
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: put it.

747
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: Just to her. Yeah, there's no like halfway in this situation.

748
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: They're trying to get you arrested, and if she thinks

749
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: that that's not happening, then you guys can't stay to

750
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: again because she's always on their stay. Then you leave.

751
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah simple.

752
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I am so conflicted because there are nice people and

753
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: have truly helped me in so many ways. Am I

754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: overthinking this? Or is this as weird as it feels

755
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: to me? I would really appreciate an outside perspective. Here's

756
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: a uh, there is nice. Upperclass nice isn't nice?

757
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, upperclass nice is actually off in some of the

758
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: meanest crap you've ever conceived in your whole life, but they'll.

759
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: Do it with a smile.

760
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is new wealth.

761
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: Honestly, I can't even speak to between old money and

762
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: new money.

763
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: I don't know what that, but I feel like it

764
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: had to be said.

765
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: And it's new money.

766
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but it means something

767
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: I think that would actually probably a good thing. I

768
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: feel like old money is usually the cruelest.

769
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: Meaning they're trying to like, you can't be around us,

770
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: we're old money, and that's why they didn't just like,

771
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: you know, like like have her assassinated or something.

772
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they just like were like, oh, we'll put

773
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: a little knife in her car on.

774
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Well yeah, maybe if they were old money, they would

775
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: be like, we can't even assert it. We have to

776
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: we only marry my cousins.

777
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, if they were, if they were old money,

778
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: it'd be like a drone striker.

779
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn be over.

780
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 5: What was in the bag again?

781
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: What a rusty knife? A rusty knife in the ulously

782
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: bless you? Bad thing to take on a plane.

783
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: A knife?

784
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: A knife?

785
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 5: Our friend did that, I was.

786
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: Gonna say he did.

787
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: He did the kind where the knife comes out of

788
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: a barrel.

789
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 5: No, he wrote, Our friend has a license firearm.

790
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, you told me that. It was a great story.

791
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: You told me this when we were going to Columbia.

792
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was just it was a complete accident.

793
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: He's it was a arm, it was registered and everything,

794
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: and he just it was in his backpack at the

795
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: worst possible moment.

796
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: The worst possible place.

797
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like they take it out of the

798
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: bag and even he's.

799
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: Like, the story is he puts the back through the

800
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: thing and the alarm goes off and he goes, I

801
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 5: know exactly, oh no no, no, no, no no, and they

802
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: security comes up to TSA comes up to the like, hey,

803
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: that's a firearm, and he's like no, like that's an accident.

804
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: Like it don't matter what it is, We're going to

805
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: take you to jail.

806
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

807
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: Yah, that's crazy because every because every airport is actually

808
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: federal community service.

809
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: So like they he was there for a long time,

810
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 5: so he obviously he's like so I think he asked.

811
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 5: He was like, so I'm not getting on my flight. Yeah,

812
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: like I gotta make my flight now. Wow, just a

813
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 5: freak accident. Yeah, I know it was. Check your bags.

814
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: He's fine.

815
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: Sorry to be clear, he's fine only because he had

816
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: a good lawyer too, which is the scariest part. It's

817
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: like you can just make a mistake, like community service

818
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: freaking ruin you for like six months, but that was

819
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: about it.

820
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: He didn't deserve time or anything.

821
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

822
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people would have gone to jail.

823
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: Ever since, because of that story, I triple check my

824
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: bags of like do I have anything in here that

825
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: I shouldn't be having.

826
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: After reading through all of your comments on my original post,

827
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: I didn't realize just how concerning this situation sounded to outsiders.

828
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: It has given me a lot to think about, and

829
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: I really appreciate everyone's perspective. I want to talk to

830
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: my girlfriend about everything, but I'm struggling without to bring

831
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: it up. When I got back from my trip, I

832
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: called her. She lives abroad, and mentioned that her parents

833
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: were pushing the idea of me moving in with them

834
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: so I could save money for a duplex, something I've

835
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: wanted for a while. I told her that while it

836
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: could help me financially, I didn't want to do it

837
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: because it could ruin the current dynamic I have with

838
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: her parents. I also called to vent about how her

839
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: mom essentially stopped me from going out with friends because

840
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: it was too late. Her response caught me off guard.

841
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: She agreed that moving in wouldn't be a good idea,

842
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: but not because of her parents' control issues, because she

843
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: didn't want to hear me complain about.

844
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: That leave by now it's your gone, oh by.

845
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: This was new for me to hear, especially since she

846
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: constantly vents to me about how her mom micromanages her

847
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: life and how our dad does nothing to stop it.

848
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: That conversation made me feel like I don't know how

849
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: to bring up the bigger issues, the possibility that her

850
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: parents planted the knife in my bag. How I feel

851
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: like the car is being used to control me. How

852
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: I've slowly felt like they are trying to dick hate

853
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: aspects of my life, just like hers they are. When

854
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: they gifted me the car after Christmas, they told me

855
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: they would keep it in their name since they had

856
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 2: a good interest rate on payments. No, because they want

857
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: to control you. I didn't think much of it at

858
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: the time. I was just grateful to have a car

859
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: that wasn't constantly breaking down. Her mom gave me an envelope,

860
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: and I was under the impression that they were the

861
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: renewal stickers. The car's registration expired in January twenty five.

862
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: A week into January, I went to put the new

863
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: sticker on and open the envelope, only to find a

864
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: denial letter because she never submitted the required inspection. When

865
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: I texted her about it, she already knew it was

866
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: a denial, not the renewal stickers, but didn't mention it

867
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: to me beforehand. While she was somewhat helpful when I

868
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: asked for info on how to get it fixed, it

869
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: turned into a frustrating ordeal. Since the car isn't in

870
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: my name, and is registered in a different country. It

871
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: took almost a month to get everything processed. I ended

872
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: up figuring it out on my own and was able

873
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: to change the mailing address so that stickers would come

874
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: directly to me. But here's the thing. I still haven't

875
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: received the stickers. It's been three weeks. After reading everyone's comments,

876
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I can't shake the feeling that this might be intentional.

877
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: Might be or like absolutely with certainty, no doubt.

878
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: My temporary receipt from the DMB is only valid for

879
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: thirty one days, which means it expires next week. If

880
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: I get pulled over with expired registration, that could cause

881
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: serious problems, especially because I'm applying to work in law enforcement.

882
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: I've completely dropped the idea of moving to their city

883
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: and will not be continuing the interview process for that job.

884
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I also know that I need to get a new

885
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: car as soon as possible. I'm going to start saving,

886
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: and when my girlfriend comes to visit at the end

887
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: of April, I'll ask her to drive the gifted car back.

888
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully by then I'll have another car lined up. Looking back,

889
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: I felt weird about the car from the moment they

890
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: gave it to me. I was excited and grateful, but

891
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: something in my gut told me there were strings. At time,

892
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: hatched before the car, I didn't feel like I owed

893
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: them anything or that they were entitled to details about

894
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: my life. Now I feel like they use it as

895
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: leverage to monitor me. I know I need to talk

896
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: to my girlfriend about this, but I want to approach

897
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: it in a way that isn't judgmental, just honest about

898
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: how I feel. We generally have good communication, but I'm

899
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: worried about how she'll react given her response to my

900
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: last call. To also address the comments about the timeline

901
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: for when my girlfriend will be financially free from them,

902
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: I think it will be a very long time. They

903
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: have given her everything she's wanted and needed her whole life.

904
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: She doesn't have to work.

905
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say a very long time.

906
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, what's a really long time?

907
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: Forever?

908
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: Forever?

909
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: Forever is a long long time.

910
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, she has these parents who are paying

911
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: for everything, who she thinks are controlling. But you know,

912
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: she's also not willing to give up that lifestyle. So

913
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: she's not going to stick up for you because she

914
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: doesn't want to lose all the money that she gets

915
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: from her parents.

916
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's your answer right there, that's your answer

917
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: for if do I stay or do I leave?

918
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: You leave? She is only in the last few months

919
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: starting to realize that her parents are leveraging money to

920
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: control her and is starting to want to look for

921
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: jobs while going to school, which I'm very proud of

922
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: her for coming to the realization, as I know it

923
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: was not easy for her to do, but I honestly

924
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: think it maybe years before she actually stops being provided for.

925
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like whenever we hear about these

926
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: kids who grow up really, really rich, they don't just

927
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: want to leave that lifestyle. They like the lifestyle, they're

928
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: used to it.

929
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: I hear it's pretty nice.

930
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: Does anyone have advice on how to navigate this conversation?

931
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: How do I explain everything in a way that she'll

932
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: understand without making her feel defensive? And there are some

933
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: relevant comments? What do you think they we're focusing on

934
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: the wrong thing here, dude. Yeah, I think parents are literally, like, uh,

935
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: controlling you.

936
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 4: Your parents conspired to maybe get you thrown in prison. Yeah.

937
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you should be with someone who does

938
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: not see that as an extreme issue, especially if you

939
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: all have been together for years at this point.

940
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be one thing if your girlfriend's

941
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: parents were controlling car, because then it would be a

942
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: conversation where you say, hey, I've noticed that your parents really,

943
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, don't let you do much and they have

944
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, hold over everything that you

945
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: do in your life. That's something you should notice and

946
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: maybe separate from them.

947
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: And her response is, I shut up, I don't want

948
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: to hear about that.

949
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not even the only problem. The problem

950
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 2: is that they're also trying to control you, and that's

951
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: a step too far. Relevant comments the eight o five

952
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: chicken Lady, You need to give that car back, even

953
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: if it hurts you day to day. If it's not

954
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: registered in your name, it's not your car. That car

955
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: is nothing but a tracking device and maybe even a

956
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: way for them to try to gather intel on you

957
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: to use against you with your girlfriend. Same thing as

958
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: putting a rusty pocket knife in your luggage. Be glad

959
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't substances. If you had been caught with that

960
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: little hawkknife at TSA, they'd make you throw it away,

961
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: but you might not be arrested. You would have been

962
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: immediately detained for substances, just saying. Kitty Book says, if

963
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: you didn't do laundry at a Laundrymatt, the parents set

964
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: you up. Do not go back to their house. If

965
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: you do, don't even bring a purse, and you don't

966
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: take anything from them. I'd give back the car as well.

967
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: That's some crap. Opie says, Yeah, I did the laundry

968
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: at my house. I truly feel like I cannot trust

969
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: them anymore and it's giving me anxiety. Lool and there

970
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: is an update. Ali says, they could also try to

971
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: get you arrested for theft if you don't return it

972
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: in a timely manner to them. Also true the car.

973
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be extricating myself from this entire situation. Yeah,

974
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: I would be planning my exit.

975
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.

976
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that

977
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: keep the show alive.

978
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Update two. I got my own car fixed and no

979
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: longer drive the one that was given to me. Good,

980
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: the same one involved in the initial situation. When I

981
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: finally told my girlfriend everything, she believed me and wanted

982
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of it. That's good. I

983
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: felt relieved. I'm relieved for you. Oh pee, Maybe we

984
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: can save this. Maybe we can say it hmmm over

985
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: under and they can save it.

986
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: I say, there's I take the under.

987
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, blast, I just don't like I don't She didn't

988
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: see that at all?

989
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: Well, how did a rusty knife fall into your luggage?

990
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: You know, if you really love your parents, you're very

991
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: close to them, you don't want to believe the worst.

992
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: I also talked to a few of my child but friends,

993
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: people she's only meant once and who live out of state,

994
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: just to get some perspective. I was intentional about who

995
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: I chose to speak to. I picked people who do

996
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: not know her family, and knowing the information we talked

997
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: about would not change their dynamics because they don't know

998
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: each other. I still want to honor her and our relationship.

999
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: When I told her, though, she've lipped. She didn't speak

1000
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: to me for a full day and said I had

1001
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: betrayed her truth.

1002
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: There it is, there is, there's that under I was

1003
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: talking about.

1004
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: Then she told her dad that I thought her mom

1005
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: planned the knife, which I never said. If anything, I've

1006
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: always quietly believed it was her dad. This was a

1007
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: much worse betrayal. She went to the source and finding

1008
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: out that they hurt me so bad and I don't

1009
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: think I will ever heal from it. We fought, eventually

1010
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: talked it out and kept moving forward or try to.

1011
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 4: No. No.

1012
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: Then about a month ago everything imploded.

1013
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: I think we're on the under the least surprising thing

1014
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: of all time.

1015
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Her dad found out her mom was cheating. Dang, I

1016
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting that.

1017
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: That's why it imploded.

1018
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: The evidence seven back and fourth messages between her and

1019
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: an old family friend catching up. That was it. Oh,

1020
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: she she wasn't cheating, but it didn't matter, he spiraled.

1021
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: It sounds like she wasn't cheating.

1022
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: Well, this sounds like an upper class breakup. Well, my

1023
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: girlfriend was home. He started screaming at her mom. It

1024
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: got so intense that my girlfriend had to punt a

1025
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: door open out of fear. The next day he punted

1026
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: her mom out, cut off her phone service and all

1027
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: her cards. She's a stay at a mom with no

1028
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: personal finances. He left her with nothing. Yeah, so the

1029
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: dad is a huge problem.

1030
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: No prenup apparently not.

1031
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: I think that. I mean that kind of makes sense

1032
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: because I mean the mom did say something of it.

1033
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: She was like, what you could have gotten in trouble?

1034
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: A rusty knife. I'd never it's so dirty. But the dad, actually,

1035
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: you're right. Yeah, the dad was the one who was like,

1036
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: your door's unlocked. Uh, we like you could have gotten

1037
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 2: you could have been arrested that. Yeah. Like, I think

1038
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: he's the one who's been bringing up all these red flats.

1039
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: I gotta say, I think you're on to some there.

1040
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: My girlfriend came to stay with me after that, trying

1041
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: to get space. He started blowing up her phone with

1042
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: unhinged messages just because she set a boundary. Meanwhile, her

1043
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: mom went back to the house while he was at

1044
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: work to grab some of her things and found her

1045
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: computer background changed to a picture of the man she

1046
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: supposedly cheated with. When she walked into the bathroom, all

1047
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: of her perfume bottles were smashed and shards of glass everywhere. Yikes,

1048
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: that's scary.

1049
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: The sky sounds like a real peach cobbler.

1050
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: A week later, he invited her the mom out to dinner,

1051
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: but only communicated through their son, saying things like tell

1052
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: your mom to come to dinner. At dinner, he acted

1053
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: like everything was normal, held her and made her think

1054
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: things were mending. Then mid meal, he slid her an envelope.

1055
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Inside was a Mother's Day card from her own mom,

1056
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: but written over the sweet note in thick black sharpie,

1057
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: do not make a scene. We are getting a divorce

1058
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: with his ring inside the envelope.

1059
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: That's so, I'm sorry.

1060
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: They're out for dinner, and he goes, oh, here you go, love.

1061
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: Don't No.

1062
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: He definitely likes slit it, like, yeah, yeah, he's like.

1063
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: This guy is the most dramatic man ever to be, like,

1064
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: don't make a scene.

1065
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: You're the one.

1066
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: You're the literally scene crafting the scene like you're a playwright. Yeah,

1067
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: I want to give you an atomic wedgie.

1068
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: It was calculated, disturbing, cruel, and it was all done

1069
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: with a smile on his face in front of their

1070
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: kid man.

1071
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: I would have thrown hands at my dad for that.

1072
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding. It would have been divorce.

1073
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately bring it up. I'm making a scene.

1074
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: I would. I don't condone this.

1075
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: Why did also you ruined my mother's card? Not cool?

1076
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 2: Straight hook. Watching this unfold shattered something in me. I

1077
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: watched my girlfriend's entire world collapse. She had always held

1078
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: her dad in the highest regard and saw him as

1079
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: someone who could do no wrong. But I thought, finally,

1080
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: maybe now she'll see what I've been seeing all along,

1081
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: because I never truly believed her mom planted the knife.

1082
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: I always felt it was him. He's dangerously intelligent, and

1083
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: that's what makes him so terrifying. His attacks are calculated

1084
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: and psychological.

1085
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I just feel like you could break

1086
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: this guy just by being like, why does your hair

1087
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: look like that today?

1088
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: And do you have well, like what just wrong?

1089
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: Just wrong?

1090
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: It just looks weird, completely shioble over something like that.

1091
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: But then, after two weeks of crying in my arms,

1092
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: telling me how scared she was, she went back. And

1093
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: the same night she got back, she said she had

1094
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: a good talk with her dad and that they were good.

1095
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: Now just like that.

1096
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 4: Here comes the money.

1097
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said. She said, I'm so upset with you

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Speaker 2: for doing that to my mom, and he said, here's

1099
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, and she said, I'm not that upset.

1100
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Speaker 4: And he said, here's five thousand dollars.

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00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: She's just nott hey after everything. Now her mom is

1102
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: fully moved back in and they're all acting like none

1103
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: of it ever happened. He divorced her. Here comes the money,

1104
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: and my girlfriend is doing the same. She's given herself

1105
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: no space to process. She's always been expected to be

1106
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: everyone's rock, to hold it all together, and now she's

1107
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: doing that again. Everything is fine.

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00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: I would ten out of ten times be rather be

1109
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: destitute with nothing than to be in this situation.

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00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so confused. I don't understand. I mean, I

1111
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: understand that she's getting money and that's why she's stand

1112
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: but uh oh, p don't don't put up with this please.

1113
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: I don't throw around the P word a lot, but

1114
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: this guy sounds like a psychopath.

1115
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the dad does.

1116
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like, actually that's psychopathic.

1117
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: It's I mean, OPI even called it out. I also

1118
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: think that, you know, these are really rich people who

1119
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: have no kind of no touch. They're very out of

1120
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: touch with reality. And ope, you seem like a grounded person. Yeah,

1121
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: you don't need to you don't need to stick around

1122
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: these people.

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Speaker 3: You can go find I think you can find a

1124
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: much better situation. Yeah, and not to be I don't

1125
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: want to cast a dispersion over all people who are wealthy,

1126
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: which of course that's that would it could You can't

1127
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: do that with any subset of any group of people ever,

1128
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: of course, but a lot of people who are psychopaths

1129
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 3: to sociopaths, do you know, they can be pretty wealthy.

1130
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: And it's because when you have nothing preventing you from

1131
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: literally just taking whatever you want without feeling anything bad

1132
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: about it, you can tend to acquire quite a bit of.

1133
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, well yeah, I mean a lot of wealth comes

1134
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: from exploitations, So you.

1135
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: Have no qualms about exploiting people, you can make a

1136
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: bunch of money.

1137
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't take it anymore. After being on the phone

1138
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: with her and hearing her interact with her parents like

1139
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: nothing happened, I finally told her the truth that she's

1140
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: being manipulated, that it's hard to watch, that I will

1141
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: never see her parents the same way again, that I

1142
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: don't want a relationship with them moving forward, by the way,

1143
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: I want a relationship with you guys, moving forward. And

1144
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: if you want that to you can go listen to

1145
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: full episodes of stories just like this on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1146
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: or i art Radio and search up Okay.

1147
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 6: Storytime Appa podcast, Appa Podcasts podcast one guy saying yip yip,

1148
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 6: I would encourage your girlfriend to get herself out from

1149
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 6: underneath the thumb of her father, and I would no

1150
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 6: longer be in an intimate relationship with her because I

1151
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: think it's just not a healthy situation.

1152
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 4: So you stretching.

1153
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 2: But folks, I think here we have a little bit left.

1154
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can stay in a relationship

1155
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: with where your girlfriend just fundamentally doesn't recognize what her

1156
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: parents are doing, especially her dad. I mean, they have

1157
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: totally violated boundaries on your part. And so the fact

1158
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: that you know it makes sense that she can't see

1159
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: what they're doing to her. I think that's a lot

1160
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: easier to, you know, to do. But the fact that

1161
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 2: she is not willing to even notice what they're doing

1162
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: to you is not okay. And you guys aren't in

1163
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: a partnership and it's been three years and she doesn't recognize.

1164
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not changed anytime soon, but there's a

1165
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: little bit left. It hurt her deeply. She wants me

1166
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: to be good with her family. I get it. They

1167
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: mean everything to her, but I will never be good

1168
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: with them. I'm still so angry for her because all

1169
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: I see is how they use her manipulator and take

1170
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: advantage of her loyalty and she doesn't see it. We

1171
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 2: argued again. I'm exhausted. We're supposed to be moving abroad

1172
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: together in two months, and yet we're both trying to

1173
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: live in completely different realities. I love her, but this

1174
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 2: is breaking me and relevant comments Dragon Seafruit says, your

1175
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: relationship is over. Please take it out back and end

1176
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: it already. Please take it out back and do an

1177
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: old yeller on it. Watching this miserably play out isn't

1178
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: fun for anyone. Opie says, I don't agree that our

1179
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: relationship is over. We're really great in person, have been

1180
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: doing long distance for a year, and for the most part,

1181
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: have continued to push each other to grow and be

1182
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: better versions of ourselves. We just need to learn how

1183
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: to navigate her family dynamic in a way that I

1184
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: get to keep my boundaries and she still gets to

1185
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: feel connected to her family. Isn't gonna work. That's the

1186
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: end of that story. Ope wrote all of that and

1187
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: then was like, no, no, no, is it No, it's not over.

1188
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 2: He's not over. It's over, girl. I'm sorry. It's okay

1189
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: for it to be over. It's okay. Just because you

1190
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: put three years in doesn't mean that you got to

1191
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: put more is a sunk cost fallacies.

1192
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: Cost fallacies is quite a doozy.

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: If she saw what her family was doing too, if

1194
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: she recognized that, and if she put up boundaries with them,

1195
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: different story. That is not the case. But that, unfortunately,

1196
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: is the end of that story. Op did not learn

1197
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: anything by the end of it.

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Speaker 4: That is true.

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Speaker 2: Funny that it all started with her being like, I'm

1200
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: jealous of my partner. How do I fix that? Well,

1201
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: and then my partner's family are literally trying to control

1202
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: my entire life. What do I do?

1203
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: They say the first stage to get to acceptance, you know,

1204
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: it's denial, it's denial. She might be on the road.

1205
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: Then that relationship is gone. Yeah, but that is the

1206
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: end of that. It sure is a story, and I

1207
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Speaker 3: believe the end of the episode.

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