1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: And I'm Lauren Vocal Bomb, and today we have an 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: episode for you about Lipton. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Yes, the company, the. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the brand, the company. Sure, yeah, there are a 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: lot of things. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: They are and we're going to try our best to 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: untangle them. Uh huh yep. Not a sponsor, Nope, nope. 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Was there any particular reason this was on your mind? Lauren? 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Uh No. I think at some point I had like 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: seen one of those big corporate organization charts of how 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: all of the giant brands are interconnected, and Lipton was 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: one that stood out at me because I was like, yeah, 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: like long running tea and also. 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Soup ice creaming. Mi'm to outherstand at one point. 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's write that one down. Sure and uh And 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, yeah, let's There was 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: sort of like a like a drink slot up in 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: our interest category for this week, and I was like, yeah, 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: sure lipt In Yeah, Yeah, you know. 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't I feel like I don't have much experience 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: with Lipten. Actually no, no, And they do a lot 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: of stuff. They do a lot more stuff than I thought. 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: H But even so, I was like, no. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I for sure I grew up with 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Lipton tea being a staple of various households that I 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: was hanging out in, and definitely towards like college. Just 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: after college, I consumed a number a cup of soups 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: for survival purposes and also sometimes used the seasoning or 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: the soup packets as a seasoning for like, like before 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: I like built out my like spice collection to season 32 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: like I don't know if I was making like tuna 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: salad or something like that just to you know, yeah, 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: nicees a little packet of flavor. 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: I feel like college dining in the creative ways you 36 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: go about that, I personally am really interested in. So listeners, 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: if you have any hacks that were like your college go. 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, the more terrifying the better. 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely Well. For past episodes, you can see 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: our general episode we did on Tea Tea Time, Tea Bags, 41 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Earl Gray Twinings. 42 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: We've definitely not done an episode on Twinings least wrong. 43 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: I guess we did talk. 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: About them in I believe our Earl Gray episode. They're 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: actually like the key rival of Lipton, especially in some markets. 46 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: So oh dear, what have I done? 47 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Different kind of heat, different kind of rivalry. Yeah, we 48 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: have done an episode on Jasmine Tea. You can check 49 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: that one out. 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess try for sure? 51 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 52 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, I suppose that does bring us to 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: our question. Sure, Lipton, what is it? 54 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Well? Lipton is a giant international company that produces and 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: sells tea and other like precursors to drinks, both under 56 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: the Lipten brand and a number of other brands. There 57 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: are also Lipton branded products produced and sold by other companies. Now, 58 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: because this is global scale, not all of these labels 59 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: and products are available everywhere. And also like to focus 60 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: in for today on the Lipten brand and not the 61 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: other brands that they own, but also the other companies 62 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: that own them. The Lipten brand basically they sell machine 63 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: cut teas and herbal blends in a bunch of formats. 64 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: You've got loose teas, cacups, and tea bags. The tea 65 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: bags come in both individual and multi serving sizes. You've 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: got drink mixes like just add water style in both 67 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: powders and liquid concentrates, and the brand has some prepared 68 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: bottled beverages which are shelf stable but meant to be 69 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: consumed chilled. Some of their other products are specified for 70 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: cold preparation and consumption. And yeah, they also do instant 71 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: soup mixes which are kind of a savory average. 72 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 73 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I cannot speak for the brand everywhere, but the vibe 74 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 2: here in the US, in my estimation, is that Lipton 75 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: is like dependable, inexpensive, and basic. It's like if a 76 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: pack of sabertoothed tigers all wearing top hats and monocles 77 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: could sell you tea. Where did they get the top 78 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: hats and monocles? Why are they grinning like that? Do 79 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 2: not ask questions? Drink your tea. 80 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm scared, laurd you frightened me. 81 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: I yet again not a sponsor, probably won't be after that. 82 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I like the imagery, though, somebody should. Somebody should capture 83 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: that in some artistic form. 84 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh if anyone listening is visually or stick, please oh, 85 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: because we are not. But okay, So in the US, 86 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: the Lipten brand is mostly known for just straight black tea, 87 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: and it's what I associate with, like what my grandmother 88 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: would use to make iced tea. Yeah, just like good 89 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: strong black tea that's anecdotal. Your mileage may vary. Please 90 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: write in here. In the States. Their current product lineup 91 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: includes regular old tea, bags of black tea, regular and 92 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: decaffeinated and organic, plus Earl Gray and English Breakfast plus 93 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: green tea in regular and decalf than flavored with lemon 94 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: or peach or honey ginger, plus herbal blends in flavors 95 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: like camameal, mint, peach, very high biscus, and lemon ginger. 96 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: They've also got a line of pyramid shaped tea bags 97 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: with black tea in three flavors lemon, vanilla, caramel, and peach. 98 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: These are meant to be more like visual and fancy. 99 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: They also do sell large format tea bags for making 100 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: pictures of iced tea. Those come in regular, decaf and 101 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: sweet pre sweetened. They've also got large format bags of 102 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: tea meant to be cold. Brood didn't look into how 103 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: those work. Furthermore, they have powdered and liquid instant mixes 104 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: for iced tea. The powders are brood black tea that's 105 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: been dehydrated. The liquids are concentrates. Both of these come 106 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: in a variety of other flavorings than just plain black 107 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: tea like lemon, peach, and raspberry. Some are sweetened, some 108 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: with sugar substitutes. The liquid concentrate does also come in 109 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: green tea with lemonade flavor. I'm not sure why, yeah, 110 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: lemonade and not green tea with lemon sweetened, but here 111 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: we are. The sweet black versions are labeled Southern sweet, 112 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: which cracks me up. 113 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Yep, it's a thing. 114 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: It is a thing. I learned that their CA cups 115 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: are specifically for making iced teas, like they're meant to 116 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: be brood hot but over ice. 117 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Huh. 118 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know CA cups being if you're unfamiliar 119 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: that those things that Kirig machines take, yeah and yeah, 120 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: they're ready to drink. Products are mostly sweetened and flavored. 121 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: They come in bases of green, black or white tea 122 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: and have flavorings like raspberry, citrus, or peach. They also 123 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: do a fusions line that's like iced tea mixed with 124 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: lemonade and other fruit flavors like pineapple, banngo. It was 125 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: a little difficult for me to track down what products 126 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: the brand cells in other countries, but for example, in France, 127 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: it seems like they focus on the flavored blends in 128 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: the fancy pyramid bags, like green Tea with orange flour 129 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: and mandarin orange, or green Tea with intense mint. I'm 130 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: not sure what the intense really refers to, but that's okay, 131 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: or green Tea with hibiscus and raspberry. They also have 132 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: black Tea with red fruits or with peach and mango. 133 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: Their Dutch line includes a lot of ready to drink options, 134 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: including sparkling iced teas, which is not a product I'd 135 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: come across before, but I'm like, why wouldn't you sparkle that? Sure? Absolutely, yeah, 136 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: sparkle anything in China because the tea at home market 137 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: is really about loose leaf tea. Lipped and sells a 138 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: lot of instant iced tea mix and milk tea mix 139 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: through fast food restaurants and then a lot of tea 140 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: bags to offices. Yeah. 141 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: Interesting, mm hmm. 142 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: The brand is organized under the larger company lipped In 143 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: Teas and Infusions, which is headquartered in the Netherlands and 144 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: form few years back when Unilever sold off and or 145 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: spun off their tea businesses. Lipt In Teas and Infusions 146 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: also owns a lot of other tea companies like pg Tips, 147 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Tea Two, Tazo, Puka, Red Rose, Lions, and Brooke Bond, 148 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: among other brands. Unilever did retain ownership through all that 149 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: of a few of their tea brands in certain instances 150 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: and markets, like they still control the ready to drink 151 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Lipton iced tea beverages, so Uniliver also does still own 152 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: the instant soup side of lipt In, which produces just 153 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: add water soups in these little single serving packets in 154 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: flavors like chicken noodle, cream of chicken, and spring vegetable. 155 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: A bunch of their flavors are labeled as a soup 156 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: and dip mixes that are meant to be yeah, mixed 157 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: with something like sour cream to make an easy snack 158 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: dip for potato chips or whatever. Flavors like beefy onion, savory, 159 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: urban garlic, and vegetable what vegetable, I don't know. I 160 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: didn't all of the all of the photos on their 161 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: website were broken, and I didn't click through to look 162 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: at the ingredients. From what I remember, an air of mystery. 163 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: From what I remember, it's like carrot, onion and bell pepper. 164 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. These, Uh, these generally involve like 165 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: a dehydrated broth, maybe a little chunks of chicken, little 166 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: chunks of vege, and some herbs and spices. 167 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Very very interesting. Okay, well what about the nutrition do. 168 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: Not eat companies or brands? No, nope, nope. It would 169 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: be very difficult to fit in your mouth in a 170 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: single bite. Not sure how you would tackle that. 171 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Just and also just a bunch of questions. 172 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: We don't even know what vegetable is, right, We don't 173 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: have some numbers for you. We do so this first 174 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: one isn't really a number, but the US packaging for 175 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: Lipton's Plain Old Black tea claims that it is America's 176 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: favorite tea and I buy that. I buy that. Lipton 177 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: Te's and Infusions is the largest quote unquote single buyer 178 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: of tea in the world. They purchase some four percent 179 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: of the world's tea crop every year, much of it 180 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: at auction. They source that from around a million farmers 181 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: in thirty countries, and they keep an annual list of 182 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: all of them. They say it's all traceable. About two 183 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: thirds of that tea comes from Africa, and the company 184 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: claims that two hundred and fifty million people consume their 185 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: products every day. 186 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: Wow. 187 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: M again, like I buy that because as of twenty twenty, 188 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: they controlled some ten percent of the global market for 189 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: tea at that time, worth around three point six billion dollars. 190 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: Who Okay, from what I understand, their revenue is down 191 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: a little bit from then. But they are doing just fine. 192 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Yes they are, indeed, and in fact they have pretty 193 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: much throughout their history done pretty good, pretty well, for they. 194 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: Have, yes, and we are going to get into that history. 195 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: But first we're going to get into a quick break 196 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: forward from our sponsors. 197 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm back, Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Okay, So 198 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: CRT episode for more history. But T is quite old, 199 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: that's what we'll say. When it comes to Lipton, there 200 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: is one key figure at the beginning, and that is 201 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Thomas Lipton. Thomas Lipton was born in Glasgow, Scotland in 202 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds. A lot of his early history is lost, 203 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: but we do know that his father was an Irish 204 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: grocer and that in eighteen seventy one Thomas founded a 205 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: chain of grocery stores in Glasgow. I also read somewhere 206 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: that he just took over his father's store and then 207 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: made more, but in either case, he started his own 208 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: thing in groceries. Yeah. Yes, when he was quite young. 209 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: He spent a few years in the US after the 210 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Civil War, taking a series of odd jobs and a 211 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: handful of places. There's a lot of stories that sound 212 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of like miss about his time in the US 213 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: two sneaking away onto boats, getting into knife fights, stuff 214 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: like that. 215 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, knife fights are not funny, but yeah, based on 216 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: how like respectable, A lot of the stuff I read 217 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: about him was painting him as an adult. That's interesting. 218 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, That's why I think there's some level 219 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: of myth to some of things. Yeah, Somewhere along the 220 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: way he allegedly picked up on brightly lit grocery stores 221 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: with clearly displayed items and took that mindset with him 222 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: back to Glasgow for his own stores, and this redesign worked. 223 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: These stores were apparently quite successful because at the age 224 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: of forty he was well off. I read he opened 225 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: about two hundred of them. 226 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 227 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. However, he had aspirations of becoming even more successful, 228 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and he saw an opportunity through ta and especially at 229 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: first tea in the UK. By the seventeenth century, tea 230 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: was incredibly popular throughout the UK, but it was still 231 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a luxury for the working class. Shop 232 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: sold loose leaf tea at a price that was out 233 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: of reach for many, so it was kind of a 234 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: special item that you would get. Lipton wanted to come 235 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: up with a way to provide something more affordable that 236 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: would also turn him a profit. His plan to do 237 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: this primarily relied on cutting out the tea brokers and 238 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: growing tea himself. This meant he needed a sizable amount 239 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: of land, and it seems like he was a paranoid 240 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: fellow because to throw off potential competitors, he masked his 241 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: trip to modern day Sri Lanka, which was then called Ceylon, 242 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: as a vacation to Australia, so no one would know 243 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: what he was up to. This was a strategic decision. 244 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Ceylon was one of the world's number one producers of 245 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: coffee in eighteen sixties, but a fungus came and wiped 246 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: out most of their crop of their coffee crop, so 247 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: a lot of producers turned to tea. Lipton arrived in 248 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety when Ceylon was already producing an annual forty 249 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: five million pounds of tea. Still, the economic impact of 250 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: the collapse of the coffee industry lingered and the land 251 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: was cheap. Lipton took advantage of the situation, eventually purchasing 252 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: a dozen of states for tea production and putting in 253 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: machinery that would amp up the volume that could be 254 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: churned out. On top of that, he standardized the amounts 255 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: sold in packets to a quarter, half or full pound 256 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: as opposed to how amounts were previously measured out. It 257 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: was more convenient, and the public seemed to trust the 258 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: idea more that they weren't getting cheated. It was standardized 259 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: wherever people purchased it, and the cost was pretty much 260 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: half of what the price of tea in the UK 261 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: had been. The packets also featured advertising that read direct 262 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: from tea Garden to tea pot, which I love. The 263 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: whole thing was successful pretty quickly, and he did a 264 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of showy advertising stunts that in both pigs and bagpipes, 265 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: big wheels of geese. He really got up to some stuff. 266 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: You can look it up, but the yeah, the whole 267 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: thing was so successful that Lipton branched out from selling 268 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Limpton Tea and only his own stores to other stores, 269 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: and not just in the UK. When he attended the 270 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety three Chicago World's Fair. He sold over a 271 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: million packets of tea there, and not long after that, 272 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: and thanks to some effective marketing campaigns, Lipton t was 273 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: popular not only in the UK, but in the US 274 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: as well. The popularity reached such levels that Lipton's own 275 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: estates as tea estates, couldn't keep up with demand. And 276 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: who did he turn to? The tea brokers he'd been 277 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: trying to cut out. Eventually he was only producing about 278 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: a tenth of the tea output for what he was selling. 279 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: And that meant that the advertising, or at least the 280 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: public perception that had been mostly solidified by that point 281 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: that the tea was, you know, from garden to pot 282 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: from Ceylon, it was untrue at this point, oh mine. 283 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Stepping back a bit, Lipton was allegedly actively looking at 284 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: purchasing land for tea in South Carolina in eighteen ninety nine. 285 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, the Lipton Tea Company did fulfill 286 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: this pursuit, planting tea on an island off of South Carolina. 287 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I want to bring that up because I've always wanted 288 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: to go visit that island. I think we like we 289 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: pitched the idea forever ago when we were still traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway. 290 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Queen Victoria Thomas Lipton in eighteen ninety eight and he 291 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: died in nineteen thirty one, and he had never married 292 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and had no children. Post World War Two, Lipton really 293 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: leaned into exporting their product globally, and this sometimes involved 294 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: catering to the taste of the particular market they were targeting, 295 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: so like offering a chai in India something like that. 296 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Unilever kind of did a multi stage acquisition of Lipten 297 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: beginning in nineteen forty six, and it continued over the 298 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: span of twenty six years after that, Low and slow, 299 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah and confusing, confusing for a lowly podcast host. By 300 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, Lipton was selling their products and tea 301 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: bags with brewing instructions included. This is also when they 302 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: started offering Lipton soup mixes and promoting a French onion 303 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: dip using their French Onion soup mix. Soon after, Lipton 304 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: introduced their iced tea mix to the United States, and 305 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, Unilever purchasely Lipton International brand like 306 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: for Real for Real, for Real, for real, and they 307 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: worked in partnership with Pepsi Co. And started producing bottles 308 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: of Lipton ready to drink tea in nineteen ninety one. 309 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Interestingly to me, Lipton only entered the Chinese consumer market 310 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two, though they did pretty quickly rise 311 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: to dominate the tea bag market there. 312 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: And then in twenty eleven, Peta reported that Lipton had 313 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: been conducting experiments on animals to test the health claims 314 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: of their products. Basically, they were inducing health conditions in 315 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: animals and then giving them the tea to see if 316 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: it lessened those conditions. Yes. In response to that whole thing, 317 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Peda threatened an international quote Lipton slash PG tips Cruel 318 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Tea Tea campaign, and Unilever received forty thousand appeals. After that, 319 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: the whole thing seemingly worked, because after these reports, pretty 320 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: soon after Unilever announced that they would cease animal testing 321 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: for their tea products, the company briefly sold a sort 322 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: of cuig competitor in twenty fifteen, called to by Lipton. 323 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: It didn't stick around for long though, however. Lipton pods 324 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: that are combatible with qureg machines are now available. 325 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Unilever consolidated it's thirty four T brands 326 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: into a division that they called Ekatera Ekaterra, I'm not sure. 327 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter, because they then sold it off 328 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: in an auction to this European private equity firm called 329 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: CVC Capital Partners in twenty twenty two for a cool 330 00:22:54,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: six point eight billion dollars. Apparently, sales of Unilever's core 331 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: product black tea had been declining for the previous few years. 332 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: There was a lot of industry buzz about why exactly 333 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: this consolidation and sale happened, but anyway, CBC Capital Partners 334 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: renamed the business Lipton Teas and Infusions. 335 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty three, Lipton's hard iced Tea 336 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: hit the shelves available in full flavors. 337 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, h stuff. 338 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 339 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: The Lipten T's and Infusions company has been funding a 340 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: bunch of research into i'd say like future proofing their business. 341 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: Starting in twenty twenty four, they announced like new and 342 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: or continuing partnerships with a few universities and like government 343 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: and industry organizations in both the UK and Kenya to 344 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: develop projects that look at like education and efficiency and 345 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: technology in tea farming to like improve crap management and 346 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: reduce greenhouse gas emissions and pesticide use, and develop more 347 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: drought resistant plants, important as climate change continues to affect 348 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: the farms in this region and many other regions that 349 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: grow tea. The company is also doing work in like 350 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: tea processing and warehousing and other logistics. It's it's like 351 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: really ultimately self serving, but I do think that they 352 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: are trying to be more environmentally and socially responsible for 353 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: whatever reason, and I don't know, you know, I'll take it. 354 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: They've also sold a bunch of their East African tea 355 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: estates to the Sri Lankan holding firm called Brown's Investments, 356 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: along with an agreement to a purchase the resulting t 357 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: that b sets a bunch of social, environmental and quality 358 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: standards and then more on like the human interest side. 359 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: I guess one long abandoned research project from Lipton is 360 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: coming to New Fruition right now. So back in the 361 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, Lipton did some work with the University of 362 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: California's Kearney Agricultural Research and Extension Center to see how 363 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: tea might grow in California. The project was closed down 364 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties, a few tea plants were kept 365 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 2: around basically as ornamentals until in the twenty teens a 366 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: few researchers decided to look into tea farming in that 367 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: region again. And yeah, if you happen to be in 368 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: the central California area and are interested in growing tea. 369 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: They're having their first Tea Day event on March nineteenth 370 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: of this year, twenty twenty six, just just a little 371 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: while from now as we record this, which will include 372 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: a tour of their tea estate, presentations on like research 373 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: production in marketing, and a sensory tasting sort of event 374 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: because they're their first harvest is set for April of 375 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: this year. 376 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, listeners, if anybody goes, oh my goodness. 377 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And apparently I think we talked a little 378 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: bit about this in our Tea episode. Gosh, that was 379 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: a long time ago, but uh yeah, for like the 380 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: California Ish climate region. Uh, people do recommend tea plants 381 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: as ornamentals. They're pretty and you can pick the leaves 382 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: and make deed. 383 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Sounds like a win win, you know, h m hmm. Well, 384 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot more we could have gone into 385 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But I feel like this 386 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: is a pretty yeah, comprehensive. 387 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was streamlined as much as I think we 388 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: could well, you know, yeah, yeah, still getting into a 389 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: little bit of the yeah, a little bit of the details. 390 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: Definitely company start splitting off. It became oh my goodness. Yeah, 391 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: And I mean like, we cannot cover PG Tips in 392 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: the same episode that we cover lipt In. That's wild. 393 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: That's way too many. Yes, that would be way too Yeah, 394 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: so like separate episodes about all those other brands in 395 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: the future. 396 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: Yes, but I think that is what we have to 397 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: say about lipt In for now. 398 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: It is. We would love to hear from you. Do 399 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: y'all have any memories do did your grandmama make iced 400 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 2: tea with a bunch of Lipton tea bags and a 401 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: big plastic picture that smelled a little bit suspect do 402 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: you have Is that your favorite tea company? Do you 403 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: have a different favorite tea company? Do you have strong 404 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: opinions about PG tips? Let us know. In the meanwhile, though, 405 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: we do already have some listener mail for you, and 406 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: we're going to get into that as soon as we 407 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: get back from one more quick break for a word 408 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: from our sponsors. 409 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 410 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: we're back with listeness. May just a nice You know 411 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: how refreshing tea can be. Oh yeah, oh, I was 412 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: going to say in a hot summer day because I 413 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: was thinking of the sweet tea since you just mentioned it. 414 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: But on any foggy, cool day. 415 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, those tann and hits that really upset 416 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: your stomach. Yeah, alas, yes, alas delightful. M. M. Shamus 417 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: wrote before the pandemic, I had a daily thirty minute drive, 418 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: which was the perfect time to listen to an episode 419 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: on my way there and another on my way back. Well, 420 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: I had to make a seven hour journey. Where I live, everything. 421 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: Is either on the next street or at least two 422 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: hundred miles away. I was like, I wonder if the 423 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: Savor people are still at it, and I was so 424 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: happy to see that you still are. I loved hearing 425 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: you call the Screwcap episode part of a mini series 426 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: on closures, because I too love nerding out over everyday things. Anyway, 427 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: after listening to your shortening episode, I thought i'd tell 428 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: you that. A couple of years ago, I texted a 429 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: climate scientist friend of mine, asking if shortening biodegrades. I 430 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: said that even though it wasn't his area of study, 431 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: he must be up the hall from someone with an answer. 432 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: A few days later, he sent a response. She said, 433 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: under the right circumstances. There were no details on what 434 00:29:52,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: the right circumstances might be. Howm a steer. I love it. 435 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 436 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: I love that you have a contact with people with. 437 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: A kind of human who would know this? Yeah, or 438 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: no one knows someone who knows this? Uh yeah, yeah, 439 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm guessing like a lot of water is involved, and 440 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: maybe something that helps break up fat masses, but I'm 441 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: not sure. 442 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: A great mystery of the universe and a wonderful vague answer. 443 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's fantastic. And also, Hi, welcome back. 444 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Yes, welcome back. That's so great. I love that you 445 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: checked back in. Yeah I'm still here. 446 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah uh huh yeah uh uh, Kelsey wrote, I just 447 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: listened to your Raquette episode, which A maybe crave Raclette 448 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: and b gave me an excuse to tell you about 449 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: my first encounter with it. While my friend and I 450 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: were studying abroad in Spain, we spent a weekend visiting 451 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: my friend's cousin and her partner in Geneva, Switzerland. Our 452 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: flight got in quite late at night and we were famished, 453 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: so they took us to one of the only restaurants 454 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: still open there. We were presented with half a wheel 455 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: of bubbling raclette, which was then scraped over dishes of 456 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: potatoes and conachans. Her cousin started apologizing that they couldn't 457 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: do better for dinner, but we were in cheesy potato 458 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: ey heaven, how could it get any better? Okay, fondu 459 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: ingrier was pretty good too. Hopefully one day iHeart will 460 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: send you to Switzerland for research. Ps. Here's Scooter sunbathing 461 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: and watching bluey Oh my gosh. And attached is a 462 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 2: photo of a black or possibly chocolate cat. Yeah, just 463 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: like just like little seal pup like like on on 464 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: its back, like little pause it will pause up. It's 465 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: kind of squinty having a really nice time in a 466 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: sunbeam and apparently watching bluie. So what a good what 467 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: a good combination. 468 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: It's an excellent combination. Mm hmmm. Also, I completely agree 469 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: we should go to Switzerland number one. Yes, two, Yes, 470 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: don't apologize for giving me recollet. That's a wonderful meal. 471 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, like oh no, oh, I'm sorry you 472 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: only served me melted cheese. 473 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: That. No, I don't think you understand how completely thrilled 474 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I am right now. This is excellent, delightful. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 475 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: well I have so many cravings right now. I don't 476 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: know what to do. 477 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a It's a wonderful problem to have. 478 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: That is true. It is a wonderful problem to have, 479 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: and we love hearing from you listeners and having these 480 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: crave things to say. Yes, maybe not be be able 481 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: to fulfill them. 482 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: But that's okay, not right away. 483 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still time there, just to look forward to. Yeah. 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