1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Odd 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Couple at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: Bucky, you have more NFL experience in your pinky toe 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: then I will ever experience in my entire life. 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, maybe maybe not. It's not always guarantee you. 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: Pinky toe is small and you know what, I'm thirty five. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 5: Maybe I got a future ahead of it. 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: You never know. The Saints draft of the twenty five 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: year old quarterbacks, I know, yes, you never know. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 6: There's always a chain to fully guaranteed contract, all right, 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 6: But from what as far as I can tell, in 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 6: the NFL, there's a few different ways that you can 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 6: get a job, right. 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: You can either win that job out, like through just 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: being better than the other person who's ahead of you 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: in that position. That person who's ahead of you in 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: that position can get hurt or do something disciplinary to 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: where they're no longer they're suspended for that game. Then 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you step in, you have three interceptions, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that person is now demoted. 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: Mo Lewis Hits Drew bledshow, Tom Brady late round pick 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: walks into the Foxborough and history after that. Right, you 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: see this all the time. Kirk Cousins was a fourth 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: round draft pick in Washington who in the same draft 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: where a guy was drafted with the in the first 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: round with RG three RG three right, ended up Kirk 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: Cousins is the guy that ended up getting the multiple 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: and obviously to get a long term but the multiple 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: franchise taxs he got paid in Washington and then went 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: on to have the long career, the last one I 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: can think of that Prescott was not a starter in 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: the NFL and until Tony Romo's back hurt ah, and 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: then once Tony Romo's back stopped hurting, Tony Romo was 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: then a backup. So when I peruse the Internet and 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: Elon Musk's Twitter and the various sports television shows, and 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: I see people of repute saying that Dion Sander, I 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: mean Shador Sanders is being sabotaged because he is getting 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: the opportunity to start Friday. It doesn't necessarily square with 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: what I believe to be true. But again, I don't 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: have a lot of NFL experience. Am I NFL experience? 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Your NFL experience pales a comparison to mine. Is this 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: a possibility sabotized? That sambatized is an interesting word. 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: Like, break that down for me. 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 4: If you so the the way did I see it 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: the way the reports have come out? Can you pick 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: is dealing with the hamstring injury? Dylan Gabriel is also 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: dealing with the hamstring injury. Joe Flacco is the presumptive. 54 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: So he's got an injury when he gets out of 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: the bed. 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: But they want him to be the starting quarterbacks, so 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: they want to keep him available. Well, if the other 58 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: two guys are down, that moves Shadur Sanders up. So 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: it's not a to me, it's not a sabotage situation. 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: It's a tremendous opportunity National TV. Everyone's been clamoring to 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: see him. Whether you love him or hate him, everyone 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: wants to see him. He has an opportunity to kind 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: of change some of the narrative around him and his 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: game if he shows up and shows out, because now 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: he creates a conversation that they have to deal with 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: in the building because if he plays well, that conversation 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: now comes inside the building because everything at the pressor 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: is going to be always he compete for the job, 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: right is he that? So to me, this is a 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: great opportunity. To me, is actually a no lose situation 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: for Shudur Sanders. 72 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: Okay, break that. 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Why you say it's a no lose situation because I 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: definitely see a way that there could be losses here. 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: Now there's no lose. So he comes in. 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: He was fourth on the depth chart already, right, he 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: was the fifth round pick, so he's the last one 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: to the table. So if he falters, then everyone is like, well, 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: this is why we took him in the fifth round 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: because he wasn't better than Dylan Gable in the third? 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: Can he pick up? Was a free agent and Joe 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: Flacco is to whatever? 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: So that that's worst case, that's where he started. 84 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 5: He wasn't getting rest with the ones anyway. Okay, I 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 5: see what he's saying. 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 7: Why what if he plays right and plays well, now 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 7: it changes the pecking quarter a little bit, and it 88 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 7: puts more pressure on the other guys to play well. 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: Because that's the thing that I find too. There's two 90 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: things here that I find that I think that people 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: missing this conversation. The first one is Joe Flacco is 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: the starter. He has been named the starter, if not 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: already officially named the starter. He who could write it 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: in pen They just haven't turned the card in yet. 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: You know what it's like, seriously, And the only reason 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: why is because the deadline hasn't come. He's the starter, 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: you know, Hawaii know he's the starter because he doesn't 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: have to compete like everybody else does. That's how you 99 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: know he's the starter. When the starter can go, he's 100 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: gonna be our guy. Now they've decided that that guy 101 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: is Joe Flacco for what hey whatever, I just I'm 102 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: reporting the facts, the facts now. If it's and I'll 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: say if it's true, I'm not debating the reporters. I'm 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: just saying like this, in this scenario, right, if it's true, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: he's not getting any reps with the ones at practice. 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: It seems to me that the best opportunity, and honestly, 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: maybe the only opportunity that shit door Sanders would have 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: to make this roster as a backup quarterback as the 109 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: two is in preseason games on because if it's happening, 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: it apparently is not getting the opportunity in practice earned 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: sabotaged whatever right for whatever reason, when they got how 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: many guys they got out there, like seventy five now 113 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: or so, like out of those ninety guys, they've decided 114 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: that if three people they'd rather be playing quarterback before him, 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: now they're not available. This is the But the conversation 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: if he comes out and just does I say, just does, 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: like I could go out there and do it. But 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: he goes out there and plays like Trey Lancet in 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: the first half, that conversation is going to Monday morning 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: is going to be the front page of the Cleveland 121 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: Plain Dealer, is going to be send Joe Flack on 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: to carpool Lane. I want this guy to be my 123 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: starting quarterback, right and that puts the pressure on now. 124 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: I really only think he really has to play better 125 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: in this competition than Dylan Gabriel, right like I think 126 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: like cause they're kind of fighting again for that third spot. 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: And I get where you're saying It's a no lose 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: situation because going to play four, Lea's in the same 129 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: spot he's in. That's the spot I feel like he's in. 130 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: They're fighting for that third spot in Cleveland. It's kind of, 131 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: in my opinion, keeping their fingers crossed that somebody would 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: call them and be like, I will offer you a 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: sixth rownd pick for Kenny Pickett. You know, I'll offer 134 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: you a seventh thrown pick for Kenny Pickett. Yeah, So, 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: I mean the there definitely is that ten the makes. 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: Prior to Kenny Pickett's injury, I felt like there were 137 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: two quarterback competitions going on, not one. It was between 138 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco to be the starter, and 139 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: then who's going to be QB two between Dylan Gable 140 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: and Shoulder Sender. Right, my expectation is both of the 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: rookies are gonna make the team. Dylan Gabriel, you draft 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: them in the third round. You're paying them too much 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: to cut them right out the gate. Suduru Sanders, if 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: you were going to cut them, you're not gonna be 145 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: able to entertain the possibility of bringing them back to 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: the practice well, because somebody else will snatch them up, sure, 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: because now all these stuff, the draft stuff is done, 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: like now you can take him and just like he's 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: a bargain basement deal, he's in the system now. So 150 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: also to that point real quick, the salary cap number, 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: not the nerd out at quarterback is so great for 152 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: the Browns with the Sean watching that that also is 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: just heavily as son of my reason to keep two 154 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: rookiy contracts. 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: Two small ones. 156 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco's on a one year, Like, I mean, it's 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: it makes sense for them to be like we're gonna 158 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: go with an older guy and then two younger guys, right, 159 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: and for Kenny Pickett or whoever loses between those guys, 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: somebody hopefully will call because inefinitely there's going to be 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: an injury in the preseason, somebody's going to need some 162 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: depth or someone underperforms or whatever, and so that'll create 163 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: an opportunity for them someone to trade Cleveland for one 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: of the older quarterbacks, which is what they were likely 165 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 4: hoping for when they got through the draft. 166 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: Right and so and but the thing here what I 167 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: find now, tell me if this is off base, because 168 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: I don't think it is, but one of the things 169 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: they talk about, like an NBA summer league. It's like, oh, 170 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: you're really auditioning for all the teams, Like you might 171 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: play for the Magic on Thursday and then get waved 172 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: and then by Friday year now shooting up for the 173 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: Heat like type of deal in the summer league, and 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: it was because you're trying to get a spot into 175 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: the league. Shit Doorge Sanders obstensibly is trying out for 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: everybody always on Friday, and it's gonna be like it'll 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: be the highest out, go out and the lim it'll 178 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: be the highest rated preseason at least first half and 179 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: ten years, right like like without a doubt, Like people 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: are gonna be locked into this, yes, and so every 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 3: like not just us, but fans, haters, media and everybody 182 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: like y'all scouts looking for another arm. And when I 183 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: see him, like when I saw him in college, I 184 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: did not see a fifth round pick. Now, I also 185 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: want to get paid to evaluate talent, but I didn't 186 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: see a fifth round pick. I thought it was a 187 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: stretch at first, but like third round felt right, so 188 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: it's worst. 189 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, So to me, I saw him as a bottom 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: of the first round talent. I thought, look, I. 191 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: Assume and still believe that he's gonna be the best 192 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: of all the ones in the class. That's what I 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: felt like when I watched him in Colorado. I continue 194 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: to feel that way. I won't I won't get off 195 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: of that. 196 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's not that's not a hot like it may 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: sound hot, but it's really not. 198 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not. 199 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: I'm just saying like, based on what every coach and 200 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: everyone has always talked about. They talked about two things 201 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: that are really important at quarterback, accuracy and decision making. 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: And to me, he was best in show in Acrecy 203 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: and decision making. Arm Talent is not what caam Ward's 204 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: was or some of the other guys, athleticism isn't what 205 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: some of the other guys. But in terms of doing 206 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: the things that everyone has told us our most important 207 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: to the success at quarterback, he does those things really well. 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: And not that we're counting stats in training camp or whatever, 209 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: but people have said he's been on the mark in 210 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: training camp, So my expectation is if he's been on 211 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 4: the mark playing with threes and fours against the two 212 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: defense or whatever, he's gonna play against the twos and 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: threes in the preseason game. He should look won't say great, 214 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: but he should be looking really really good based on 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: how he's performed. He's playing against backups, vanilla coverages, he 216 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: should be My expectation is he's gonna play really really 217 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: well against that because it's gonna be very vanilla static 218 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: looks nothing crazy. 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So take me inside the mind of the coaches 220 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: front office as they're watching him Friday night. What are 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: they looking for to see? Okay, this is an improvement? 222 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: Oh what? Oh? 223 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: He missed this, So that's why we're knocking him down 224 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: a peg, Like, how can he raise his status on 225 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: the depth chart Friday night even though those guys are hurt. 226 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 5: Well, here's what I say. 227 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: The most movement that you'll see on the depth chart 228 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: is after this game. And it's because everything that we've 229 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: done prior to this in the offseason, OTA's MENI caamp workouts. 230 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: That's all great in shorts, but now we're playing real ball, 231 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: and in real ball, people change, some people show up, 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 4: some people fall back, and so this is a chance 233 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: for him if he shows up for people to be like, 234 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: oh he is a legit baller, like he literally can play, 235 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 4: and that will change the nat and that will start 236 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: the reconfiguring in the tweaking of the depth chart. Because 237 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: remember there are only three preseason games, so this. 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: Is a big one. 239 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: The last one is not even really ad dress rehearsal. 240 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: The second one is the dress rehearsal. So he has 241 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: an opportunity to head a stage to him. Say, he 242 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: may play the whole game, right, he may play the 243 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: entire game, and so he has the entire stage to himself. 244 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: That is significant for him. If he's able to show 245 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: and proof. 246 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: That's that's what That's the way I take it, and 247 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: it I thought it was that I saw people saying 248 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: that this was sabotaged because you had in practice with 249 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: those guys, and I'm got to. 250 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: Figure you gotta figure it out now that some of 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: this is you got to figure out because guess what 252 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: if you're a backup quarterback in the National Football League, Exactly, 253 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 4: you don't get many reps in practice. 254 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: Exactly, make it four or five. 255 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: Starter goes down, Hey, get up, you ready, and you 256 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: have to figure out how to operate, how to go, 257 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: how to make this work. And this will be I mean, 258 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: he's lucky that he has a few days to prepare 259 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: his mind for being the starting quarterback. Most guys don't 260 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: get that when you're the backup. So this is we'll 261 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: get a chance to see how he handleson. 262 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I watched Baker Mayfield be a 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: Carolina Panther on Monday and win a game and lose 264 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: me a bet for the veager for the Rams. 265 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 4: Because you went to the Rams and you didn't bet 266 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: on them. You didn't think, no way, Baker Mayfield is 267 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: gonna come off the streets. 268 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: You know what, Bucky, I'm not. 269 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: I don't consider myself a great handicapper, but I am 270 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: pretty good, you know what. But I silly me. I 271 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: thought that, Well, the other team's quarterbacks only been on 272 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: the team for two days. The team that's had the 273 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: quarterbacks is training camp should probably win, mm hmm. But 274 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: then I forgot they were coached by Josh McDaniel. That's 275 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: what did. 276 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: Here's a lot of Super Bowls, understand, Yeah? How many 277 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 5: was he the head coach for? I mean? Whoops. 278 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 279 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 280 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and The 281 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 282 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 8: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning 283 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 8: on my podcast Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't 284 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 8: your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down 285 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 8: your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions 286 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 8: on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help 287 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 8: you win big at the sportsbook, and all the best guests. 288 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 8: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 289 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 8: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 290 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 8: you get your podcasts. 291 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: You'll see several of these type of videos floating around 292 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: that YouTube because this is a hotly contested topic of discussion, 293 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: not just in the media, but apparently between both principal parties, 294 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons. Ding Ding Ding Ding, or 295 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: as I like to deem it, Jerry Versus Salary Cap 296 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Part three. So we're now the third installation of those 297 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: recent Jerry Jones Versus Salary Cap with Dak Prescott and c. D. Lamb, 298 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: and now we're at the Michael Parsons iteration. But this 299 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: one has gone further in turn, not necessarily in length, 300 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: but in acrimony because Michael went full NOTESAP and generally 301 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: you should never go full notes app no, but at 302 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: this one, I was like, you know what, the guy might. 303 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 5: Got a point, shouldn't go full NOTESAP. Didn't. 304 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know that well because and I say that 305 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: kind of ingest but honestly, and I saw some people 306 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: kind of speculating, do you think that Michael wrote this 307 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: whole thing? 308 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: And then people kind of like, you can't write you 309 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: graduated from Vince State. 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, no, that's just saying you think Michael wrote the 311 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: whole thing. And I thought, and I don't say this 312 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: to make a to make light of it. I think 313 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: he absolutely did. Because there were some like grammatical mistakes 314 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: that you would make if you were like shooting off 315 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: a text message right that you know, I should say, 316 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: the more mistakes, more grammatical, I'm not really caring about. 317 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm getting this off of my chest. It's like this 318 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: is from the heart and it tracks to me in 319 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: a way because Michael Parsons since joining the Cowboys, has 320 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: been star on the chest. I am a Dallas. 321 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 9: Cowboy favorite team coming up through and through, Like yeah, 322 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 9: like I'm a fan of the Cowboys and I love 323 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 9: being a Cowboy and has been, for lack of a 324 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 9: better terminent ambassador for the Cowboys throughout his rookie deal. 325 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: And in the note that he put out on Twitter Friday, 326 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: he said he approached Jerry two years ago for a 327 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: deal no interest. I can get that from the Cowboys side. 328 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: We got to take care of our quarterback. We gotta 329 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: take care of our receiver, says they approached. He approached 330 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: again in last offseasons, say okay, I get it. We 331 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: still gotta we gotta take every We gotta take every 332 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: You're next, right, you're coming up, You're down the line. 333 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: You when it's your turn, will take care of you. Well, 334 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: now it's his turn. You know how I know it's 335 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: his turn because when you go to the Wikipedia page 336 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: of his draft and you look down the list, there'll 337 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: be a little cross that says Pro Bowl right next 338 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: to the guys who make the Pro Bowl. Everybody in 339 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: the first round has made the Pro Bowl on that 340 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: list is now on their second contract, except for Michael Parsons, 341 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: who arguably is the second the best or second best 342 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: or third best player out of that class. That's how 343 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: I know it's time. That's how Miken knows this time. 344 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: And that's how most importantly of all, apparently David Mullagetta 345 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: knows this time. Who is a man who I know, 346 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: not personally, but you know how I know it was. 347 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: When j C. 348 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: Horn signed his deal because I look back, I said, dog, 349 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: because you know all the all the insiders. Now, of 350 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: course they have to tell David muligtta athletes first, nobody, 351 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: Bill Duff, you c AA or whoever, by whoever, by whoever, 352 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: David mud again, it gets his numbers. He he read 353 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: every every almost every one of his clients gets something. 354 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: Jacy On highest paid, this, Stingley highest paid, that, most guaranteed, this, 355 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: most guaranteed, that there's a framework of that deal, and 356 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: you look at it, you like, yo, damn. It kind 357 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: of honestly reminds me of when Rich Paul started moving 358 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: through the NBA and. 359 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: It was like, Yo, who got what? 360 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying he's a bad player, but it's like, damn, 361 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: he's like, oh, David is cracking heads. 362 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: Over there, cracking He's making it happen. 363 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: And so with all of that, you take what Jerry 364 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: said just recently and I. 365 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: Was just like, I was just like I was. I 366 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 5: was gobs backed when. 367 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: I heard somebody who has this much experience in this 368 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: business respond to reports and questions about this in this way. 369 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 10: Let's talk about the negotiations real quick. It's my understanding 370 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 10: nothing was put in writing. So how would you describe 371 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 10: a deal getting, so to speak, done and then walked 372 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 10: away from. 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 11: I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about 374 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 11: thirty seconds, and I gave the number, shook hands. The 375 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 11: details we worked out later. As a matter of fact, 376 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 11: one of the details involved a lot of money and 377 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 11: we had to flip a. 378 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 5: Coin over that. 379 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 11: But the fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell 380 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 11: it to me for that range, that's done, and those 381 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 11: are done with eye contact and handshake. So was there 382 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 11: Just so you understand why I the way that I 383 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 11: communicate with people that I negotiate with. So let's leave 384 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 11: it at that. There is no question that in the 385 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 11: case of a player or contract, you have to have 386 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 11: it in writing. All parties do we have a contract 387 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 11: in writing, yet we're still talking about renegotiating it. 388 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: So so much for that, So. 389 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: But ask you fundamentally, as Jerry said, the fund of metal, Yeah, 390 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: part of that deal. Who's off here, because to me, 391 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: it sounds like the old man one hundred percent. 392 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. It sounds like the old man is office. 393 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: Sounds like he thought that he had a handshake agreement 394 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: a this is what is going to be to be 395 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: like around this much if you go with this, like, 396 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: let's let's get it done. We'll take care of the 397 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: particulars later, loop your agent in and YadA, YadA, YadA. 398 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: And now even a few other deals that have gone 399 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: down that have changed the money for those guys TJ. 400 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: Watt well over forty million dollars. Michael wants to make 401 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: sure he's in that or above that ballpark, that that 402 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: ranged that figure. So maybe it put a pause on 403 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: what he was ready to agree to because. 404 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 5: The numbers changed. 405 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: When you're Jerry Jones, and I'll say this, maybe maybe 406 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: the Cowboys aren't as high on Micah the personality as 407 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: they are the player. And when you give a strong 408 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 4: personality like that the money, now you give him a 409 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: platform where he not that he hijacks the franchise, but 410 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: he comes the unquestioned leader of the team, where you 411 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: want him to be the leader or the representative of 412 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: a team or not. 413 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: You know, this is the first I've heard of this, 414 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: Like for obviously, consume a ton. This is a fascinating angle. 415 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: I had not considered one bet. 416 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: So here's where here's where you have to go back 417 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: to go back to. Remember Michael Parsons was a twelfth 418 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: overall pick in the draft class. Yeah, when we look 419 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: back at the names that went ahead of him, you're like, 420 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: they gotta go ahead of him. Where there was some 421 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: conversation about him, not moral character, but just football character, personality. 422 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: How does he feel? He's loud, he's boy, Yeah, he's 423 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: all that. Like he can be. You can be a lot. 424 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: You're not worried about him in society, but in your 425 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: locker room he can. 426 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: And you've seen him be like he has this podcast, 427 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: he has all this other stuff whatever. So you have 428 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: to be ready to deal with that. And a lot 429 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: of times in league circles, in locker room circles, they say, 430 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: whatever the person is, it's gonna be times ten when 431 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: you give him a bag. And so when you give 432 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: him the bag and you give him all of that 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: with this, now mushrooms and escalates and becoming even bigger 434 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: personality in the locker room and are you okay with that? 435 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: And if you're not okay with it, then you do 436 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: what the Cowboys are doing. You slow play this out 437 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: because there's no leverage for Michael Parsons when it comes 438 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: to holding out in those things, right, sure like that, 439 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: the CBA made it where it's prohibitive for someone to 440 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: hold out. So if the Cowboys try to dribble this out, 441 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: what recourse does Mica have. 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: Well, since to the point he's already committed, he's already 443 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: shown up, so he can't if he goes home for 444 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: longer than five days, then basically he's right back in 445 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: the situation he's in again next year. 446 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 5: He's right, So, now, what are you gonna do? 447 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 3: It's it gonna be Chris Jones sitting up there with 448 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: the good Fellows on Sunday Night Football a couple of 449 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: years ago, Like, is that what he's gonna do? Like, 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: there's really not what he can. 451 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: And Chris told everybody they cost him a lot of money, right, 452 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: he didn't get that money back even when he did 453 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: his deal. 454 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: So that's the thing. 455 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: So okay, so he stuck, so he has to play 456 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: this out. Well, even things like okay, I'll just played 457 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: the deal out, and I'd be fraid to know you 458 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: won't because now we put your franchise tag on. 459 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 5: I'll play that out. Oh we put another one on you. 460 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 4: So now they've held him up for three years on 461 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: his back and to the first year franchise tag would 462 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 4: not be that it would be pretty comparable to what 463 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: he's making on his rookie deal, because that crazy that 464 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: the average is not. 465 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: The top is high, but the average is not. That 466 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: second franchise tack. 467 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: Over what it is. But then yeah, it would be big. 468 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: But then the Cowboys be like, yeah, well we got 469 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: you now, so they still kind of have him. And 470 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: there was conversation in the past about with the Cowboys 471 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: trade him, looking to trade him, all those other things. 472 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: It just appears to me that the Cowboys dragged the 473 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: feet with everybody, Dak Prescott, Ezekiel, Elliott and everyone comes 474 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: time to pay, they dragged If this is what makes 475 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: this one feel different to me part respectfully, I did 476 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: not hear no reports about how Dave Jerry Jones, who 477 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: was like what's. 478 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: His name, Tyler Tyler Italy or Todd Franz who's Dak's agent, 479 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: Like I didn't hear none of it, like like no, 480 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: Like okay, so I get you, but like no, Dak 481 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: Todd Francis Cia went and called Jerry Jones and and 482 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: sure they did the deal drag out. 483 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 484 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure if we subpoened the phone records, there's probably 485 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: multiple phone calls back and forth between the Frisco, Texas 486 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: and wherever the hell Todd Franz works at. But for 487 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: all the reporting we've heard about this one, apparently the 488 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 3: cowboys and David would have got it, got the other 489 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: on block because they're not calling each other, nobody's talking. 490 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: To nobody talk Right now, we're just trying to figure 491 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: it out. Like eighteen months, we haven't really engaged in 492 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: the discussion. At some point they'll get to the table 493 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: and they'll talk and they'll figure out what needs to 494 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: be done. But right now, I think Jerry enjoys the 495 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: sport of negotiation. I don't know if you've ever been 496 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: out with someone who just loves to argue. They just 497 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: love to like box back and forth, or that one 498 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 4: of their homeboys love it. Just bro like we don't 499 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: have to argue about everything. I feel like Jerry Jones 500 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: dead gay he loves it, like he feeds off of 501 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: like the negotiation at the end of the day, like 502 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: if he squeezes out one more dollar out of you 503 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: that he could, he can walk away happy. I feel 504 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: like this is the kind of negotiation that's gonna be 505 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 4: very contentious until he gets done, but then eventually get done. 506 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: Okay, so this is. 507 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 3: The thing, then what does he like more negotiations are 508 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: winning super Bowls? Because I don't understand how what he's 509 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: doing right now. Now. It's one thing if you're dragging 510 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: out negotiations throughout the channels in which negotiations are always 511 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: dragged out, it's another thing entirely to me to go 512 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: and whether or not Michael Parsons was actually circumvented. 513 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 5: He sures hell feels like he was right. 514 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: So if it's a lie, we fight on that lie. 515 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Right at this point, like he feels like he was 516 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: and David will get it from what I could tell. 517 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: You want to talk about somebody who enjoys negotiations, because 518 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like every GM walks out of 519 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: there like damn, I need to make sure I still 520 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: have the same amount of blood in my body that 521 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: I did when I walked in here, like Jerry going 522 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: straight to Micah and intimating that he had some handshake deal. Sure, 523 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: deals like that get made all of the time. However, 524 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: it's almost like Jerry forgot the asterisk he put on 525 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: the end. We'll figure out the particulars later, right, this 526 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: is later. These are the particulars, Like, that's what I'm 527 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: not understanding. 528 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: That's what he is. He loves, he loves this, he 529 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: loves the theater of it all. 530 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: But you know what, he really loves the fact that 531 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: you and I continue to talk about the brand, the 532 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: Cowboys brand, and all conversation in their mind is great conversation. 533 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: All attention is good, good attention because it only enhances 534 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: the brand. 535 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 5: And remember this about the Cowboys. 536 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: The Cowboys they'll pay their stars, but they don't pay 537 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: anybody else. Right, They have a lot of cash that 538 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: they keep on the books. It is a ten billion 539 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: dollar operation when it comes. I mean, it's the most 540 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: valued franchise in sports. The brand is big for a 541 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: team that hasn't done anything in thirty years. 542 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that that you're actually short changing them, 543 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: because if the Lakers sold for ten billion dollars, the Cowboys. 544 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 5: There's valuation for the Cowboys. 545 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 3: If Jerry Jones wanted to sell them, he'd be able 546 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: to buy a continent, right, like not a country. 547 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that and they enjoy the business of it, 548 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: Like I had a chance to look at America's sweet 549 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: artists like the Cowboys, Chileer Doc and you can't sit there. 550 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: You see how they they the brand is the brand 551 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: is real. I think he realizes that. And while they're 552 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 4: engaged in this conversation with Micah, like they just have 553 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 4: to make sure a want to do this. 554 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: That's That's the thing that just drives me nuts because 555 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: having the conversation with Micah is one thing and one 556 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 3: thing entirely. But as we've seen, Michaeh Parsons was willing 557 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: to have conversations for the last three years and now 558 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: maybe they're talking to him, like the conversation at some point, 559 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: at least there was supported early in this off season 560 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: that they were having a conversation. But like, Micah is 561 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: not the person who's doing the negotiations, Like, that's not 562 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: the person you gotta work out the particulars with. That's 563 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: the person who signs off. The person you work out 564 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: the particulars with. 565 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: Is the agent. 566 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: It's a clunky analogy, but I'm getting married on Saturday, right, 567 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: thank you. I asked her dad, you know, for her 568 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: hand in. 569 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: Marriage, but that wasn't who. I had to work out 570 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 5: the particulars with particularly her. You just you just getting 571 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: skipper and go to Dalla. Hey, Dad and I got 572 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 5: it worked out. 573 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: You can't. He got each other in the eye. I 574 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 3: had a handshache agreement, but then I had to go 575 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: and work out the particulars. 576 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: We had to go figure it all out. 577 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 578 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 579 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 580 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 581 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: Did you see these comments Bucky by Bill's general manager 582 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: Brandon Bean in reference to the Kansas City Chiefs, Yeah, 583 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: he said, quote, it's a play here or a play there. 584 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: We're close, but we can't just prepare the team to 585 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: beat the Chiefs. There are a lot of good teams 586 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: in the AFC. I don't think we're far away. We 587 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: just have to make a stop here or there. We 588 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: haven't made the stop we needed. We haven't made the 589 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: stop when we needed to make them. We feel like 590 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: we've upgraded our defense. For that reason, we have to 591 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: get the key stops. Bucky Brooks your thoughts on Brandon 592 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: Bean and his team building philosophy. 593 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: Look, I agree with them. 594 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: He can't solely beat the team build the team to 595 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: beat the kan City Chiefs the way that it operates 596 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: normally in the National Football League. You build your team 597 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: to win a division, and then you keep in mind 598 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: the heavyweights that you know you may see in the 599 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: conference or in the other conference. So while he can't 600 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: specifically build the team to beat the kans City Chiefs, 601 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: he must be aware of what is going to take 602 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: to knock them off. But look, man, the Chiefs have 603 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: been their boogeyman. They have just not been able to 604 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: knock them off. Despite having teams that were good enough 605 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: to beat them, they just haven't been able to get 606 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: it done. And they can change the personnel and do 607 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: all that other stuff, But to me, it's far more 608 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: mental than anything else when it comes to dealing with them. 609 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: They have to understand how to take them in a 610 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: deep wone knock him out. 611 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: They beat him at the red seat, and it's just 612 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: in the postseason. Haven't been him to do it. 613 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: And it's a lot of you know, Chris Jones pushes 614 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins back into Josh Allen and he overthrows digs 615 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: on what would have been the touchdown or that age. 616 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 3: It's he's right that they are close, and I ultimately 617 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: do agree with him. I also just kind of wonder, 618 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: you know, I just wonder when he kind of like 619 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: decided this was the way he was going to go 620 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: about this, or if this is a hymn thing, or 621 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: if the whole team and I promise I'll land the plane. 622 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: Because here's the rub. The Chiefs sure have had a 623 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 3: stranglehold over the AFC over the last what four years? Yeah, 624 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: four of the last or five to last six Super Bowls, 625 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: right with Joe Burrow sneaking in in between. So I 626 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: get why somebody would say the Chiefs have knocked us 627 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: out of the playoffs every year. But the reality is 628 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: the Chiefs were knocking anybody out of the AFC playoffs 629 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: those years, right, you know what I'm saying. If you 630 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: just play it out that way, you know, say they 631 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: were gonna knock whoever. 632 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 5: They saw out. 633 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: You have to build a team, and you have to 634 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: have a strategy of team building. In my opinion, that's 635 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: going to win you most football games. Right, you have 636 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: to be able to say more often than not, if 637 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: I implement this strategy, I will win. And I think 638 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: the number one quit essential example of that in recent 639 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: memory is the Philadelphia Eagles is a. 640 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: We are running the ball. 641 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: We do not want our quarterback to throw the ball 642 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: over thirty times, whether you like it or not, whether 643 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: you think he's top five or not. We think he's 644 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: top one, and we're gonna keep saying that, but we 645 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: don't want him to throw the ball thirty times. Yeah, 646 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: despite not throwing the ball thirty times, we are going 647 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: to pay our wide receivers because we need them. We 648 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: are going to pay our running backs because we need them. 649 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: On the defensive side of the ball, now, that's where 650 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: we might be able to do a little bargain, Ben shopping, 651 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: Zach Bond, You're on one of the worst teams in 652 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: the NFL as a special teamer, Know what, come on 653 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: down company, All Pro starting linebacker for us, right, you 654 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and then drafting well, of course, 655 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, there's been a 656 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: run on white kids named Cooper in their twenties now, 657 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: but they found one of them, put them at cornerback, 658 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: and then Quinnyon Mitchell from Toledo. Those guys are first 659 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: year players making huge bom pick six is in the 660 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, right. They clearly have a strategy and a 661 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: thought process. This is how we are going to win 662 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: more games than not. And I don't think that changed 663 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: when they were nine to one and then lost ten 664 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: games in a row or whatever it was to then 665 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: be bounced out in the playoffs in the first round 666 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: the year in between the two Super Bowl berth But 667 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: it just shows you. To me, that's their strategy and 668 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: to me, Buffalo, That's why I wonder when they got this, 669 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: because yeah, I agree with you, Brandon Bean. You should 670 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: build a team that stands on its own. You should 671 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: be like, sure, Borrow still leaving, but do your own thing, 672 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 3: put your own spin on it. But I wonder if 673 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 3: this is a recent relevation because you have Josh All 674 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: a quarterback, the raining MVP in the NFL, and in 675 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game you went, oh for however many 676 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: on however many toush pushes in a row, a play 677 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: that you didn't do that the Eagles do all the time. 678 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: It works well, and you lost that game essentially, I 679 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: just say lost a lot of winning. What is the 680 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: winning probability in that game by deciding not to have 681 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 3: your own short yardage thing with your own special guy. 682 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but everything is it is different, right, So that 683 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: works for Philadelphia partially because you have a quarterback that 684 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: dead lifts six hundred pounds and so everyone else is 685 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: struggling doing the quarterback sneak toush push. But the Philadelphia 686 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: Eagles are uniquely qualified to be able to do it 687 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: because the special qualities are a quarterback and maybe the 688 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 4: best offensive line in football. The Buffalo Bills are on 689 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: the right track because they're always in the conversation and 690 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: it's very difficult to look crack the code to make 691 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 4: it to a Super Bowl appearance. The can City Chiefs 692 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: have been different. I mean you talk about five appearances, 693 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 4: three wins, whatever, all those things that they've been able 694 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: to accomplish in this run terrific. But if the Buffalo 695 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: Bills build their team specifically to be the Knsity Chiefs, 696 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 4: and what. 697 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 5: If the Chiefs are knocked k about the Baltimore Ravens, it. 698 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 4: Can stylistically, they're different what you need because what you 699 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: need to defend the Baltimore Ravens, that physical running game, 700 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, whatever, is not necessarily the same things that 701 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: you need to be the Kensity Chiefs. So when Brandon 702 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: Bean talks about I got to worry about some other teams, 703 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: he does have to have consideration. We've got to be 704 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: able to stop the run. We need to be able 705 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 4: to have pastors to get after the quarterback, we need 706 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: to have some coverage guys, and all these other things. 707 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 4: So he's saying it in a nuanced way. Yes, to 708 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 4: Can City Chiefs are in mind, but I also have 709 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: to be ready for anybody else as emerges as a 710 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: heavyweight contender this year. 711 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: And that's why I think that if you are building 712 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: your team with Kansas City and mind. 713 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 5: That that's short sighted. 714 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: Yes, like it's it is very I get it that 715 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: he keep that the Boogeyman keeps coming, but you got 716 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 3: to protect against everybody because Freddy Krueger might be next door, 717 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: you know. 718 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: What I'm saying, And especially. 719 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: It's specially in the AFC, boy, because I mean, it 720 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: seems to me at this point that there is pretty 721 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: much one thing that all football fans agree on. 722 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: That's the top four quarterbacks in the NFL. 723 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the tier one, the Rushmore right now, 724 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: that seems to be a consensus across the board. 725 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 5: Make sure it just makes you the same thing. So 726 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 5: your four would be. 727 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: My four would be Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 728 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow. 729 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 5: Okay, cool, that's everyone here. Now. 730 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: We can't agree with a lot as a country right now, 731 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: but that's something it feels like we all got square. 732 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 5: That is where the lion falls off. 733 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: And you know, like there's a lot of controversy when 734 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 4: Helen Hursts wasn't including in the top ten and people 735 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: talking to the top five or whatever. But that Mount 736 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: Rushmore that you speak to, I'm with you on that. 737 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 4: And the only one that I would say is bumping 738 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 4: up against that that I would expect to start chiseling 739 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 4: his face out would be the kid in Washington that 740 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: is Dalen. 741 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we gotta he's got it. 742 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: There's there's there's still. 743 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: But I say, look, if this is a concert, Jade 744 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 3: and Daniels had a great first two songs. 745 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 5: Oh my god, he's only he's only had two songs. 746 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm not, Hey, we only we only been there for 747 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: ten minutes, So I'm not saying it's a bad thing. 748 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 3: I'm just saying we got a lot more we talk 749 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 3: we talk about because we do this a lot. Buck, Yes, 750 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: and I get it because it's exciting, because it's exciting 751 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 3: and we see these guys who are just crazy athletes, 752 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: and we watched. Man, I'll never forget this, you know, 753 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: I'll never forget it because I lost the bet. And 754 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 3: it was also one of Matt Ebersflush's three road winds 755 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: in his career. But when Justin Fields on that Thursday 756 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 3: night football game was running around on Bill Belichick's Patriot defense, 757 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: I remember the next day on Friday, people coming on 758 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: and said, just Justin feels the best running quarterback in 759 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean, listen, I understand where you're. 760 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 5: You're coming from this. 761 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: I saw your little scout though book You're coming from this, 762 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: and like, yeah, explosive athlete, huh yeah seven point three. 763 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 764 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: But no, no, he wasn't at no point in his 765 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 3: career has been because and it's not a fault of 766 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: his said Lamar Jackson has been born and was living 767 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: in it's just like Victim n Binyama was coming up 768 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: for the draft. He says, kut Henderson's a hell of 769 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: a player. He may go number one if I was 770 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: never born right, But that's the Lamar Jackson was born 771 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: right at his agent slash Mama gave birth to him 772 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: and as a result, he been the best running quarterback 773 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: in the league since he walked in it. So it's like, 774 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: sometimes you have guys that will reach a peak, but 775 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 3: to me, to hit the rushmore to be there day 776 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: in day out, And it's part of the reason why 777 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: Mahomes is still there despite not have not necessarily covering 778 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: himself in glory in the Super Bowl last year, are 779 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 3: having kind of the counting stats that you would expect. 780 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: His counting stats pale in comparison to the other three guys, 781 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: especially from last season. But the King state of King, right, 782 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: and when these guys go head to head, he's the 783 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: one that walks out victorious. And a lot of times 784 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: it's because I just watched him do something that I 785 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: didn't think people could do. 786 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: I mean that that is true when you're talking about 787 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: the King state of King. But then Joe Burrow slays 788 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: the King, but he doesn't get all that. I mean, 789 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: I justtand I understand what you're saying and what we're 790 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: talking about when it comes to the quarterback landscape. And 791 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 4: some would say that QB wins aren't a real stat 792 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 4: because team stats not sure whatever, But we have to 793 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: valuate quarterbacks on winning games because we talked about Tom 794 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: Brady being the goat because of the rings, so it 795 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 4: has to be in the look. I think going back 796 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: to the origin of the conversation when you talk about 797 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: the Bills and Josh Allen and getting you over the hunt, like, 798 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what more Josh Allen could do. I 799 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: agree when it comes to playing in the game, not 800 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 4: turning the ball over, playing almost flawless when it comes 801 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 4: to it. 802 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 5: They just haven't been able to dispatch the boogeyman. 803 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: Well I suppose. I guess he could have converted one 804 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 3: of two of them to his pushes. But I feel 805 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 3: I gotta get you. 806 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 4: I mean, they'll give me your heart good like that 807 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: that offensive line needs to get a greater push. Yeah, 808 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 4: but I mean it's it's a significant factor. Look, I'm 809 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 4: if I'm Brandon Bean, I understand why Brandon Bean was 810 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 4: kind of had a loss for words when it comes 811 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: to like, what do they have to do because they 812 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 4: they beat him in the regular season, but then couldn't 813 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 4: beat him in the pull season. They've had him at home, 814 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,959 Speaker 4: they've had him on the road. They just can't find 815 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: a way to figure it out. 816 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 5: Is tough. 817 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: It's tough you the Buffalo Bills, because at some point 818 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 4: you can be like, we wasted Josh Allen's prime years 819 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 4: because we weren't able to We weren't able to get. 820 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 3: Past I mean that, but you know that's the tragedy 821 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: and beauty of sports at the end of it. Golly, 822 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 3: I was watching I think it was ironically enough Kirk Cousins, 823 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 3: which I kind. 824 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 5: Of scoffed at at the time, but oh quarterback. 825 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was saying that the only way to 826 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 3: end the season happy is the end lifting a Lombardi Trophy. 827 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 3: So by definition, I mean's thirty one team's gonna be mishappy. Yeah, 828 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: different degrees of success right, like, and it's interesting like 829 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 3: Washington right now, things feel good, you know, NFC Championship birth, 830 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,479 Speaker 3: but hey, that team comes out and starts out four 831 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: and seven. 832 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 4: Those those throw back uniforms that have all my people 833 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: excited again. 834 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: I'll just you know, things can change, Things can change quickly.