WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Remembering Larry 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:06.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.320 Cowboys. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:17.160 This is mick Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.480 and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:31.840 Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.879 It is a Monday morning, the first Monday of June 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:44.800 inside the SWBC podcast studio, our final mix shots until 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:50.479 the start of training camp twenty twenty four, and we're 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.760 getting you ready for the Cowboys mandatory mini camp this week. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.040 We got so much to talk about, getting you set 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:03.880 for the next couple of months as well as the 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.480 Cowboys get set to start the twenty twenty four season. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:12.000 As the off season wraps up, Bill Jones with Everson Walls, Savannah, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.640 Hughmoller and Mickey Spagnola. But we have just learned of 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.040 some tragic news that we first need to pass along 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.319 and Mickey, would you like to do it or you 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.360 want me to read the email? Keepers go the email 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.640 that was just sent out by the Cowboys announcement from 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.120 the Cowboys on the passing of Larry Allen. Cowboys are 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.720 very saddened to share the Cowboys legend, Super Bowl champion, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.399 Cowboys Ring of Honor member and Pro Football Hall of 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.880 Famer Larry Allen passed away suddenly while on vacation in 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.280 Mexico with his family on Sunday. Larry, known for his 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.440 great athleticism and incredible strength, was one of the most 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.240 respected accomplished offensive linemen who ever play in the NFL. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.240 His versatility and dependability are also signature parts of his career. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.440 Through that, he continued to serve as inspiration for many 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.160 other players, defining what it meant to be a great teammate, competitor, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.040 and winner. He was deeply loved and cared for by 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.040 his wife, Janelle, whom he referred to as his heart 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.680 and soul, his daughters Jayla and Lariana, and son Larry 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.440 the Third. The Jones family and the Cowboys extend their 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.640 deepest condolences, thoughts, and prayers to the Allen family and 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.080 grieve along with the many other friends and Cowboys teammates 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.400 that also loved Larry. Memorial service arrangements and details will 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.720 be announced in the near future. So that is the 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.560 news that we are met with as we walk in 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.200 the door on this Monday. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.800 Morning, and puts a downer on mix shots, doesn't. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.639 It puts it down on everything? 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.400 Actually very sad. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.360 I yeah, as a former player, of course, have to 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.560 give much respect to him. One of the aletic offensive 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:07.080 lineman that is known in the NFL. Really a feel 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.040 good story because I think he came from a small 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:15.119 college state Sonoma State and ended up just being one 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.040 of John Madden's favorite And that's when you when you 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.840 hit the when you hit hit the mountaintop is when 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.919 John Madden speaks of you like he did with Nate 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.120 Newton and guys like that. So he's pretty much iconic. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.760 And they had to go through Butte Junior College to 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.480 get to state. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.760 What Butte Junior College? 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:41.920 Yeah, it's uh actually, if I have my story right, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:48.520 Aaron Rodgers went there also. It's in north of San 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:53.559 Francisco or northeast of San Francisco Oroville, California. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:54.920 Is where Butte College is. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:01.400 It must be one of those, uh like Coffeeville, Kansas. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.560 You know. It was always known for having big time 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.640 players before they went to the big time schools. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.800 So in twenty sixteen, hopefully we can resurrect us. On 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:19.080 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, we did a legends piece on 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:27.480 Larry Allen and we went to California to do the interviews, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:34.880 and yeah, it was quite a story because they were 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:42.880 the school was recruiting a couple guys and somehow, some 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.840 way they said, well, bring Larry along. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.320 Yeah, oh by the way, oh by the. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:53.640 Way, and they found them. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:53.800 In. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.040 He grew up in south central. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.200 La Compton, Compton, California. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.400 As bad as it was. And when he got to 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:11.279 the junior college, they found out that he never really 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:17.839 graduated high school. So to get him into even junior college, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:24.359 they had to send him to what Larry nickname the 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:25.400 Pregnant School. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.200 Everybody was pregnant back then. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:35.159 When girls got pregnant in high school, they dropped out, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:40.400 and so they developed a program to get your your 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:46.200 GDE and so ged. And so he had to go 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.440 to that during the summer before he was eligible to 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:56.280 actually play uh in junior college. And the head coach 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.560 there told me the story about how Larry was working 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.520 for him in the office and they were working late 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.799 one night and he goes, Larry, we need some pizzas. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.360 Here's my car keys. Go go get a couple. I'll 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.800 order them. Larry goes, well, I can't do that. And 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.240 he goes, what do you mean you can't do that? 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.599 He goes, I don't drive. I've never learned to drive. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.880 So then he had to take them to driver's ad 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:30.640 to get his driving degree right. And to add just 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.039 a touch of humor to it, Larry liked the pizzas 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.039 and he kept ordering pizzas from the place that the 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.320 school used, the athletic department used, And finally the guy 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.680 that had owned the pizza place said, hey, coach, we 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.599 got a small problem. And he goes, what's that and 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:52.159 he goes, well, Larry keeps writing checks for the pizzas 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.839 and they're bouncing and he goes, what do you mean. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.919 He goes, yeah, so Larry, Larry didn't understand when you 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.240 had a checking account, you had to have money in 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.480 your account to pay for the checks. Hero he thought 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:10.560 you just wrote the checks. So not only was he behind, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.800 you know, from an athletic standpoint, he was behind socially too. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.200 Went to four different high schools, Yeah, different high school. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:27.360 And he and he ended up at oh Napa Napa 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:31.160 High School and he ended up living and this was 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:38.400 before the old miss story, uh with the black offensive 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:46.400 lineman living with a white family. Yeah, Michael or uh blindsight. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:46.800 Yeah. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.440 Anyway, Larry ended up Uh. He was commuting from his 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:59.400 grandmother's place in Napa, far north of this high school. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.760 And finally the family took him in. And it was 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.240 funny story about how I said something to Gosh, I 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:15.160 wish I had done my research. But the quarterback he 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:22.560 befriended him, and Larry in like two months, ended up 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:29.480 being voted the homecoming king. Living with this white family 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:36.240 and napp of all things right and yeah, and he 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:40.559 was the one that got him to Butte Junior College 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:45.240 and two. I mean, the story is long, but when 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:50.280 they finished at Butte, Larry was basically giving up and 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:55.800 he went back home to Compton. And one of the 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:02.280 coaches at Sonoma State had heard about him and and 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.560 and was like trying to find him. And he went 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:16.200 down to Compton and found him and uh, you know, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.679 told him, here's my card, we'd like to talk to you. Well, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.679 Larry never follows up on it. So the coach uh 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:29.160 had a wide receiver I believe it was that was 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.760 from that area, and he told him, I want you 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.320 to go to Compton, go back home, go to the 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.280 basketball court and find the biggest guy you can see 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:44.240 and it's Larry Allen and and and tell him give 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.520 him my card. So he does. Larry puts it in 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.320 his pocket and his mom find washing clothes, finds the 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.160 card and it's like, well, Larry, what's this And he goes, oh, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.960 some guy wants me to play football. And he goes, well, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.120 did you call the man? And he goes nahn. And 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:08.720 so his mom calls, his mom calls the coach and 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.680 they're talking to him and I remember the coach the 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:16.320 greatest lion ever. You want to take care of my baby? 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:18.719 And yeah yeah. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:26.760 And so just to get a workout, he has this 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:33.040 white kid listening to country music drive up to Sonoma 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.360 State and it's a couple of hours drive right with 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.360 Larry brings them in to the gym and the head 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.679 coach says, yeah, you know, I'll think of the assistant 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:50.280 coach's name here in a minute. Look the guy can 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:55.160 dunk standing still, and the coach is like, yeah, right, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.000 and he goes, no, he can't, So they bring him in. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:03.160 They're sitting in the gym, Larry walks in with a 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:09.760 he's got an all white kind of warm up suit 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.880 on and the coach goes Okay, Larry, go go, show 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.800 coach you can dunk. So he goes under the basket, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.960 doesn't take a step, standing step, and dunks it, and 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.720 the football coach goes, okay, I think we've got a scholarship, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.160 and the rest is history. But it was it was 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:39.280 almost a miracle that he ended up where he did. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.040 and uh yeah, it was quite a remarkable, remarkable story. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.080 The other and I'll tell you one more, and I 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.000 know we got to move on. When he was at 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.080 the junior college, like he shows up with t shirts 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.360 and shorts and basically had athletic department issue. He didn't 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.520 have clothes. Well, they had a banquet and awards and 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.840 you have to be dressed up. He didn't have nothing. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.320 So the coach gets his wife to take them shopping 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:13.080 and he get him a shirt, tie, shoes, suit, and 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.280 so they're looking for shoes and Larry goes, I really 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.920 like these right here, and they were, oh, what were 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.640 the fancy shoes that had the kind of wing tip 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.680 type things and they had the holes in the front 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.640 or whatever. They were really expensive, like one hundred and 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.240 fifty two hundred dollars, And the coach's wife goes, Yeah, Larry, 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.920 you know what we can buy like three pairs of 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.720 these for what those costs. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.560 Right? Okay. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.720 So when he made it in the NFL, got his contract, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:54.880 he was a rookie. Every year he brought that coach 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.800 and the family he lived with a NAPA in town 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.439 for a game Cowboys game. So the first time they 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:07.400 came coach and his wife, he goes, hey, I got 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.920 to show you something. Brings them in to a closet. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.040 He's got three pairs of wingtips in. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.959 That's his shoe of choice. Yeah. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:25.040 So anyway, it was. It was a remarkable story tracking 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:31.040 his history, short of driving through Compton, I guess I 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.520 don't know that we did that, but we went to 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.200 the junior college Sonoma State and then went to his 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:43.080 house and had the longest conversation ever with Larry Allen 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.720 after what was he here? Twelve thirteen years? 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.920 How many years he was twelve years nineteen ninety four 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.320 through two thousand and five with the Cowboys and then 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.040 finished up his NFL career with the forty nine ers 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.600 in six and seven, which I don't remember. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.959 But he was actually affable, funny. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.360 And very very very soft spoken. Yes, during his time 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.880 here or not spoken. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.880 Yeah, and he opened up and it was it was amazing. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.800 And then this is the last thing I'll tell you 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:18.160 and we can move on the Hall of Fame. When 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:24.560 he got inducted his second daughter, there was two of them, right, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.040 she was, she was still in high school. She was 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.360 determined that he was going to get up there and 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.600 give a speech because we figured the over under was 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:44.760 three minutes, right, And she interviewed her dad for weeks 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.120 to find his life story right, and she basically kind 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.800 of wrote out a script and they practiced right and 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.880 practice and I didn't find this out till afterwards, and 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:03.200 somebody told me the story where she was. She she 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.560 was on the edge of her seat and she was 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.320 rocking back and forth. Okay, come on, come on, you 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.920 can do this and do it and he actually did 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.880 it right, I mean, it was really good, and she 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.960 was so relieved. Brad and I were taping a segment 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.720 to send back here after the awards ceremony and a 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.880 friend of ours was walking off with his daughter and 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.240 we got to talk to her about what she did, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.320 and she was near tears, tears that he pulled it 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.680 off right because he wasn't going to get up here, 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.160 but he was good. He thanked everybody told some funny stories. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.880 And it was I didn't say that, but I'm sure 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.480 that was something. I was shocked. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.560 But she did one hell of a job preparing. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:52.840 Them for that. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:57.840 So anyway, fifty two years old, had a son that 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.520 went to Harvard, played football? Was it Harvard? 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.359 I don't recall. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:09.440 Larry, Yeah, and one daughter went to Stanford and the 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.960 other one was going to call soow. He and his 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:20.240 wife raised three really sharp kids. Fifty two. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.880 Here are the career accolades, not only of course, he 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.280 was a second round draft pick in nineteen ninety four, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.320 played on the Cowboys Super Bowl thirty team, seven time 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:39.160 first team All Pro, eleven time Pro Bowler, All Rookie Team, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:45.760 NFL nineteen nineties All Decade Team, NFL two thousand's All 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:50.800 Decade Team, NFL one hundredth anniversary All Time Team, and 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.520 of course Cowboys Ring of Honor in Pro Football. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:58.400 Hall of Fame. Crazy. I mean, Luk started trying his 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.760 best not to play best, to just. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:09.520 Not he was going to be a two All Decade 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:10.880 Team in the NFL. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:12.760 That's crazy. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.119 With the junior college coach. Imagine Larry playing against junior 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:21.000 college guys, right, and uh, he was just destroying people. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.400 It sounds like a Grambling State story from way back 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.359 with those guys. It sounds like one of those stories 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.119 and even more outrageous. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:35.199 And he basically blocked the guy and just put him 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.480 in the ground, right, And I guess the kid got 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:44.000 up and started yelling and screaming and cheating and whatever. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.080 And the head coach does He goes, oh, Son, don't 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.879 do that. You don't want to make Larry mad. And 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.600 the next play they pulled him right, and he just 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.320 knocked the guy out of the game. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:57.800 Right. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.960 They thought they thought they were sheating, that the guy 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.440 was too old and too big. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.600 Right. You can't find the Larry Allen out there these days. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:06.000 Can now? 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.440 Not much too much coverage, too much internet, right, they can't. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.600 You can't. You can't lose a guy like that anymore. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.320 And the stories, I mean, you could call him Larry 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.520 the legend. I mean, the stories about Larry Allen are 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.879 just legendary. From bench pressing over seven hundred pounds, chasing 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.760 down the linebacker exactly, and I just looked it up. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:29.639 That's crazy. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.119 Dan Deardorf going crazy on Monday night football Larry Allen. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.480 I'm really sure she gets to say. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.600 As slow as I was, I'm pretty sure he would 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.000 have called me. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:47.120 Also, Hudson how found out about him at Sonoma State? Oh, 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.119 and he was the one that when they were in 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.640 the second round, basically goes, we got to get this guy, right. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.280 I mean, how many guys come out of Sonoma State. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:14.800 He had a touchdowns, think, Dary, I mean he gained 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:15.080 on you. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.080 No, it wasn't like you know, I barely got him. No, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.399 he like throwing to them a little bit of an angle. 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.720 But this is like a huge man. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.760 This guy's got a rocket. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.080 Hoster. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.720 Alan is still standing there. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.280 There he is to the left yard screen. 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:36.879 They've got a running start at us. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:42.639 No, he's standing. I remember seeing it. It's like a sprinter. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.440 I'm telling you, that's one of the most impressive athletic. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.480 Feats I have ever. That's true. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.560 I remember watching it and I'm seeing him because he's coming. 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.600 So it's on the left side. If I remember, Larry's 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.800 coming from the right side and he's angling, I'm sitting 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.800 there going, are you he's gaining on it. He almost 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.119 beat him to the spot, right, he did because he 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:08.439 didn't cut from behind. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.480 That was not no, that was easy, easy tackle. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.280 Unbelievable. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:15.560 Wow. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.560 Well, we've got so much to get to. Yeah, And 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.920 it was obviously very important to spend the first segment 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.320 talking about Larry Allen, and there would be a lot 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.080 more talk about Larry Allen, but just being our last 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.800 show before we take a little break here and we 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.240 want to get you ready for the mini camp and 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.439 for training camp because this this podcast will live on 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.440 the shelf, as they say, for a couple. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:42.960 Of months, so. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.960 We'll be back and talk about all that other stuff 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.040 when we come back here on mix shots. 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June sixth is the eightieth anniversary of 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:52.879 D Day, when the troops landed on in Normandy and 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.120 I saw a really neat thing. They do this every year, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.240 but for the eightieth anniversary, they flew in a bunch 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.000 of guys that are still alive, most of them from 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.680 ninety five to one hundred and five to DFW and 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.480 they were going to fly them to American Airlines, flying 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:16.879 them to France to commemorate the eightieth anniversary. And these guys, 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.680 they had them in wheelchairs and they had a parade 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:24.320 basically through the gates to get them to where they 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.760 needed to go to take the flight to France. And 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:35.480 so my dad landed on Omaha Beach on d Day two, 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:41.600 so June eighth, and that was eighty years ago. He 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:47.600 was twenty five years old. After boot camp and serving, 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:52.159 he was stationed in, of all places, Galveston, Texas. You know, 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:53.879 have you ever been to Galveston? 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:54.200 Yep? 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.800 On the Gulf Coast. They have those jetties they go 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.920 out into the water. His patrol was on the jetties 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.600 because they were worried that enemy submarines might come through, 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.040 uh the golf and land in Galveston. And I'm going, Okay, 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.000 he's got a rifle, what's he going to do if 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:14.560 a submarine. 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.960 Shows up, right, go get his bow and arrow. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.000 But he landed June eighth on d D two with 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:28.520 bodies still floating on It was very sobering. All right, Bill, 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:29.360 I'm gonna hand. 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.520 You know what we're driving today, guys. 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.240 We're going Those guys turned, those guys turned. 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.119 World War two around exactly right. 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:50.160 And I and I heard someone uh saying the same 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.480 thing on the radio driving in. And I don't know 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.280 if they've already landed, if the eighty or so, I 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.560 don't know how many that were on the flight going right, 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:03.399 if they've already left or what. But apparently we're I 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.840 don't know if it was at DFW Airport or someplace 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.640 else they got whenever they arrived, they got a standing 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:13.200 ovation and it's really so go find I haven't found 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.879 it yet. I haven't had a chance to look for 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.200 it yet, but go find that. And it's really it'll 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:25.880 make your you know, give you goosebumps. Yeah, okay, very briefly, 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.240 I'm sorry Savannah about the stars. 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.600 Okay, okay, but. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.200 The plague, I mean, they play on and on and 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.879 on the sea. It seems like, okay, they're dustin to 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.520 win it all, and as we find out with Cowboys seasons, 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:43.360 it ends so abruptly. 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.200 It was a little heartbreaking, but very proud of what 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.359 this team has done and looking forward to another season 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:51.720 with them. 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.240 And you know, it didn't end how we wanted it to. 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.040 But we have some strong young guys on that team 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.960 and they will persevere in the next few years. 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.120 So lots to come. 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:05.480 I don't know, as a fan of something that was 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:10.600 invested in what was going on. I was almost sick 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.200 last night. I mean I was just I just knew 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.280 they were going to tie it up, right, it was 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:18.360 going to tie it right. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.560 They kept watch, they kept. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.160 You talk about it, valiantly trying to get that mayor 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.000 that tying goal in the final seconds. 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.520 Yeah, the last three minutes, Yeah, right. 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.960 Eight when Mason Marchant got a goal for the Stars. 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.680 At one point the total was thirty five shots on 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.840 goal for the Stars and only ten for the opposition. 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.320 The problem was two of the first three went in. 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:48.840 Yeah, on the power plane. 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:50.640 We couldn't do crap. 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.120 I started looking up those damn officials too, but there 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:59.920 you go. It's a Canadian. It's a Canadian conspiracy. 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.280 Well I thought maybe they were official. 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:05.960 We're all board in Canada, damn it. 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.359 At one point you had a guy posted up and 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.560 that was like in the last I think, in the 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.520 last minute, and I just knew he was going to 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.119 get it inside to him and he was going to 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:19.159 make a play on it. 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.480 In this case, the defense wins championships. 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:22.119 Yes he did. 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.640 They had a discipline defense on that other side, yep. 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.720 And uh, we still have the Mavericks alive. I'm headed 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:34.399 to Boston tomorrow and so well, you know. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.119 My brother knows more about hockey than I do. And 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.440 I said, look, man, the goalie looks pretty good, and 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:40.400 he said he's okay. 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.480 Was that just the goalie for the other team. Yes, 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.000 that's what I understand. 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:45.960 You know what happened. 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.120 Yeah, look at sometimes you can have your your your 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.160 teammates can be in there helping you out. 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.360 Of those thirty some shots on goal, I bet thirty 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.720 of them were right at them, Like they weren't good 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.440 score chances. They were getting the puck on goal. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.640 Maybe he was always positioned well. 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.400 Now they just never had open They didn't have any 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.880 open shots like their second goal and that first one 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:11.880 the penalty. 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.800 Hey, we had our chances. We had our chances, They 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.360 had many power plays. 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:18.760 And. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.040 Now we devoted two minutes to that, and now we 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.160 move on to the happiness here for the happiest. 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.600 I just want to know that Cowboys had lots like that. 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.240 Who gets to blame for this? 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:34.040 Right? Right? 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.480 Because it can't be the other teams better than you? 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:36.920 Right. 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:43.440 Happiest man in America today is whom Cede Lamb? Or 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.560 is it Justin Jefferson? 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.000 Because I'm coming right out, I was going to say 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:49.920 the second half. 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.320 Lamb, it's the same firm. 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.719 Come on, So what were the numbers? 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.040 The numbers? 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:02.080 We have a sign deal with Justin Jefferson for four years, 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.719 one hundred and forty million dollar extension that includes one 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.640 hundred and ten million dollar guarantee. 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.280 That's thirty five million per year. 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:17.600 The highest non quarterback contract in NFL history, and he's 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:22.520 due eighty eight point seven million at signing. So between 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.560 guaranteed base salary and the signing bonus, that's a pretty 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.160 good chunk of change. 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:34.280 Well, Bill, last week, we were all discussing this as 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:39.280 to who was potentially going to go in first, and 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:44.400 Justin Jefferson is obviously the one that took took. 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:44.960 The bait first. 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.720 So now that really does set ceede Lamb up to 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.440 kind of look at his options, and I would assume 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.440 so that CD's going to go for quite a higher deal. 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.840 I don't think it'll be much higher. It'll lead close 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.280 to the same agent. Yeah, that's be Yeah, that's that's agent. 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.480 Be close to it. Yeah. So and we did. That's 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.960 exactly what we talked about last year as well. One 0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:09.640 comes in and the other one was right behind him. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.080 And the other thing is why Justin Jefferson went first 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.040 is the Vikings aren't paying a quarterback or a top 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.920 defensive player about to pay him what the Cowboys are 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.680 having to pay, and so there it was easier for 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.440 them to fork over the four years one hundred and 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.920 forty million and all the guarantees right now. 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:31.080 So if you. 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:38.680 If you look at their careers, I trying to find 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.720 I wrote down Jefferson's numbers. 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.520 Did I do that? Well? 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:55.400 He had three hundred and ninety two catches in sixty games, 0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:00.480 five and ninety nine yards, which, by the way, is 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.560 the most of an NFL receiver in the first four 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:11.120 years of a career, thirty touchdowns c D three hundred 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.320 and they were in the same draft class. Remember, wow, 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.080 CD went seventeen to the Cowboys. He went twenty one 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:22.920 to Minnesota. And if you're wondering who got drafted ahead 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.640 of them, Chase Henry Ruggs. 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.320 You talk of wide receivers, they got dressed to them. 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.000 Yeah, wide receivers. Henry Ruggs went twelfth, Jerry Judy fifteenth, 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:39.240 and then after CD went seventeenth, Jalen Rager went twenty one, 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.680 and they were doing handstands in Minnesota to draft him at. 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.320 The Philadelphia Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Philadelphia drafted Raager 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.240 and then Jefferson went to Minnesota, and then Rager wound 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.080 up in Minnesota. 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.760 So CD in sixty six games had three hundred and 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:59.520 ninety five catches, five and forty five yards, thirty two touchdowns, 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.400 three more or rusheding rushing. So they are one of 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.920 five guys to start their NFL careers in the first 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:13.360 four years with five thousand yards receiving, which is rather 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:20.880 remarkable when you consider the receivers that came before them, 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:28.760 that they would have two five thousand yard receivers in 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.800 that short of time. Jefferson was first. Michael Thomas five, 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.800 five hundred and twelve and sixty three games, Randy Moss 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.560 three hundred ninety six and sixty four Lamb and then 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.440 Tory Holt five thousand and eighty eight and if you 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.640 can believe this, Jerry Rice four thousand, eight hundred and 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.360 eighty one in sixty games. But think of the difference, 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:56.920 how many receptions that is in sixteen game season, and 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:02.320 how the offense changed from what eighty four Terry Rice 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.080 through the nineties. 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.080 Okay, on SPO track or however you say it, Yes, 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.200 the website s p O t r ac dot com. 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.640 They've already got they are the breakdown. 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.800 They already have the breakdown for the cap hit for 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.120 justice justin Jefferson for the next five years. 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.279 Because I'm an eye last looked they must have just 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:25.680 done it. 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:30.080 And so, and what's interesting about this is because Jefferson 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.200 was in the same draft, just four picks later than CD. 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:34.319 They are. 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.879 They are on similar contracts right now, and so there 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.240 it's apples to apples. 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.239 His was two million more fifty year option. I think 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:43.600 that was nineteen million. 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.360 But so here's the here's the way it's been structured 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.360 by the Vikings. And now compare this to what the 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.520 Cowboys have facing them with a DAC contract looming, with 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.719 a MICA contract looming, which the Vikings don't have, so 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.000 they can just do whatever they want to manage the money. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.239 The cap hit this year for Justin Jefferson is eight 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:11.520 point five million dollars, Next year fifteen point three million, 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:17.680 in twenty twenty six thirty nine million, in twenty twenty 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:22.879 seven forty three point three nine seven million, and then 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.400 in twenty eight forty seven point three eight million. 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.480 Does it show where the guarantees run. 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:35.200 Out after he's a potential cut after the twenty seven season, 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.000 which would be a four year, one hundred twenty five 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:44.319 million dollars dead money. No dead money then would be, well, 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.040 they'll let you look at it if you want, but okay, 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.000 look at how they are able to structure that where 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.440 he counts x amount of dollars thirty seven million in 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.640 one year, forty three and another and then times three 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.960 times what cowboys have to do with DAK, which they 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:08.000 already have money sitting there on DAK, and what they 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.480 have to do with Micah, and try to structure this thing. 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.239 And you can understand why it may be a little 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.320 more difficult to structure the CD contract from a Cowboys 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.439 perspective than what it was for the Vikings here. 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.520 So they can get out in twenty twenty eight when 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:27.760 the day salaries forty seven to eight for like seven 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.279 point three million dollars. So if you're that fared, the 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.920 CAP's going to keep going up, right, So that basically 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.759 is you know when we were talking about it last 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.839 week after who signed for thirty two? 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.439 Well, it was Aj Brown from well we talked about 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.000 the guy from the Texans as. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.080 Well, right, and the most was Aj Brown at thirty 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.439 two million, I believe his extension. So this is thirty five. 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.040 So CDs looking at the Cowboys are looking at thirty 0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:06.240 five million on a four year deal. And I'm guessing 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:12.560 that he's supposed to play for seventeen to nine guaranteed 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:18.480 on his fifty year option this year, so he's got 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.600 to make They got to hand him at least that 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.480 much money, right, if not more for the first year. 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:31.480 So it's an investment, and that's why the Cowboys are 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.120 you know, it's like, okay, are you good with that? 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.240 Because they agreed the thirty five? Now can you agree 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:43.680 to thirty five? The other thing is when I looked up, 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.160 we need to point out Bill that June second was yesterday. 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:49.840 I'm looking at Michael Gillo. 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.279 They get the Michael Gallay guys, they can add nine 0:37:54.320 --> 0:38:00.279 and a half million to the salary cap and that 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.360 gives them somewhere between ten and twelve million dollars in 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.319 space for just the top fifty one, because that's all 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.480 they count now when you have a ninety man roster. 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.760 But he still counts four point three to five million 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.879 in dead money this year, eight point seven million next 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.160 year to get that nine and a half million back now, 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:28.480 so they have the ability now to spend a little 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:33.240 bit more. And my guess was, depending on what happens 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.920 with CD that they might have been waiting for this 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:42.279 to possibly re sign Stefan Gilmore, who I understand is hell. 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.440 That was my next question, how are you spending the 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.439 freed up Gallop money? 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.160 So I don't know what my understanding is. He lives 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.640 here now, he wants to stay here. 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:58.520 Stepan Gilmore, Okay, all right, let me ask Everson here. 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:04.040 You look at the Cowboys' depth chart at cornerback right now, 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.720 and you have Trayvon Diggs coming back from his injury 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:12.240 as one starting corner You hope you have Deron Bland 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.239 the starting corner on the other side, and you've got 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:20.279 Jordan Lewis as you're starting slot corner. Beyond that, you 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:25.879 have Naseean Wright, the third round pick from twenty twenty one, who. 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.960 Is working right now with the first team defense because 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.040 Diggs is still rehabbing, and who. 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:39.360 Had fifty snaps on defense last year. Eric Scott, sixth 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.520 round draft pick from last year who didn't. 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.000 Play last year, working second team. 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.920 Kaylan Carson, the fifth round rookie draft pick out of 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:48.959 wake Forest. 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.640 Akuambu is he going, oh, well. 0:39:52.480 --> 0:40:01.440 He's safety safety. Sheldrick RedWine, Josh Butler. There's your corners. 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:02.360 They kind of like this. 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.719 Josh Butler guy, Okay, just judging from how they're using 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.520 them in the OTA practices. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.120 So last week they caught by the way, Josh Butler 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.160 is not a youngster coming in here. He's twenty seven 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.120 years old. He'll be twenty eight in November. He came 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.280 into the league out of Michigan State as a college 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:21.720 free agent in twenty eighteen. 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:27.480 And what about red Wine and red Wine is he was. 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.400 A fourth round draft pick of Cleveland in twenty nineteen, 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.520 So those are more veteran guys, and Red Wine got 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.719 seven snaps on defense last year. He was signed to 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.280 the practice squad and then activated. 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.040 Those guys were practice squad guys. 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.919 So my question to you ever since, could this team 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.160 use Stefan Gilmore? 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.160 Oh, yes, that's easy. I thought you were coming with 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.880 something hard up. 0:40:54.920 --> 0:41:00.400 Seriously, you have three cornerbacks on this roster. You have 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:07.960 playing experience in this league basically, and Diggs went on 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:15.000 Lewis but uh didn't lead the league and Digs and blanded. Okay, yeah, 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.440 now you're talking. If you added Gilmore, then you have boy. 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:24.200 If you added Gilmore, you feel much better about the cornerback. 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.680 Yeah, I'm talking about with Gilmore. 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:27.800 With Gilmore, and let me add this. 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.640 And we're working with the assumption that Diggs is Digs 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.360 right right from the start of the scene. 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.800 Because he did it was in September that he suffered 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:38.800 the ACL injury. 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.480 So but still I get nervous about that, right. You know, 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.160 these are things I didn't pay much attention to as 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:51.800 a player. You know, I never really noticed that it 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.399 was tougher for some of these guys to come back 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.080 from these injuries. First year UH and and Gallup was 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.360 one of those that were I saw even Tony Pollard, 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:04.200 I saw where they did suffer. 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:04.840 Uh. 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.040 In regards to trying to come back. Probably this coming year, 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.799 Polo is gonna look like the same guy he looked 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.240 like two years ago. And you know, maybe Michael Gallup 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.240 will come back and do the same thing. I'm hoping 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.440 it doesn't take Diggs and tell you, I don't want 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.520 that buffer year for for Trayvon back. Now we don't. 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.640 We can't afford it. We can't afford it. We're gonna 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:24.920 need it. 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:30.719 And he needs to. Just watching what they're doing out 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.120 there where he's what's he doing compared to overshown who 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.000 got hurt in training guys? 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.319 Right, yes, the. 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:47.840 Wide receiver, uh, Durton Durden, David Durden toward his A 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:54.240 c L in training camp. John Stevens, John, Yeah, Steven Stephen. 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.440 I was thinking, oh, no, that's that's Stephen Jones' son. 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.480 That would be John Stevens. 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:07.640 Yeah, this is John Stephens. Right, those guys looking they're 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:13.560 ahead of Diggs. So just from what they're doing and 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.560 what he's doing with his rehab. 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.160 So you would talk about how fatigued he was, You're 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:19.200 just hoping. 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.560 That he's ready to come September. What is it ninth tenth, 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.080 it's September, September eighth. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.040 Yeah, Well, having Stefan Gilmore, you have that additional veteran 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.720 depth at the cornerback position. 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.239 And then I know we mentioned Jordan Lewis and he did. 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.560 He came off that injury from the year before, so 0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:44.319 he's still redeveloping in that position, and. 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.760 He missed the first four games. 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.480 I think he seemed to be a guy that handled 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:54.640 his rehab very well, and it was that that was 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.600 really career exactly exactly. 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.520 Yeah, yeah, and he's he turned twenty nine August thirty. 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.800 First that he had seven hundred and thirty two snaps 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:04.799 on defense last year. 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:10.799 And let's point out that Gilmore played that playoff game 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.600 with a harness sign of course, because he had suffered 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.400 the shoulder injury that was presurgerily repaired the end of 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:18.920 the week, no. 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.120 Doubt, so I would not have played. 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.960 That's that's what to me. That's that's kind of a 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:30.359 tipping point to what the Cowboys thought of their next 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.000 corner back up that they didn't want to go there, 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.640 and they kind of changed how they played in the 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.680 secondary to accommodate having Gilmore on the field. 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.160 It's hard to hide an experience in the second day. 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.000 It's just because they're coming after whoever they put in, 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.560 they were going to come after him. They came at 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.640 Gilmore knowing that he was injured, right, so you know, 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.520 you do the right thing. You're gonna you're gonna attack 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.680 the weakness. And it didn't matter who was going to 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.480 play that cornerback position, they going to be attacked. It's 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.120 just maybe the only thing I could say, you might 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.000 have might have had a Michael Downs, You might have 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:10.440 had the Nerrison Walls that might actually step up and 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.600 played better than the veteran did while he was injured. 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.880 So you know, to me, there are times when you 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.200 can't believe the press clippics. You know you have to 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:23.640 play outside of that. If you look at the way 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.920 we came into nineteen eighty one, no one thought you 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.759 have Michael Downs at safety, and if you did have 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.640 Michael Downs, you would not expect him to play as 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:35.600 well as he did, so, right, So, sometimes the story 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.840 doesn't match the individual. Throw him out there. You just 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.759 never know what could have happened. I mean, obviously you're 0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.480 out there with a guy. It kind of goes to 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.719 his reputation. I don't want to give more out there 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.239 playing like he did. Now everyone's looking at him as 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.879 some type of weakness, not knowing the background of how 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.560 his shoulder was being. 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.680 And who would take his place to thank you? 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.279 And that's the whole point. 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And so 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:37.480 do you think maybe there's something the Pro Bowl players 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:42.359 on on a UFL roster right now? Maybe there's four 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.279 of them that'll be signed by the start of training camp. 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.800 Mickey's nodding an agreement there. He likes that idea. 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:56.840 But signing those guys, you're signing to Rooking minimums. Although 0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.920 the minimums going up, that's right, seven one thousands, So 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.560 if you signed four guys, that's another three million. 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.160 That's what they're saving that Michael Gallup money, right, all right? 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.760 So a position we talked about, cornerbacks is another position 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:16.279 group that seems like it might be a little light 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.880 as far as the depth goes, would be the wide 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:24.520 receiver position. You got C. D Lamb, You got Brandon Cooks. 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.400 Well, you hope you have CD Lamb. 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:28.600 Yes, you hope you have. 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:33.560 Not passing up. 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.919 That's even more to my boint. What if you don't 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:43.920 have and then you've got Brandon Cooks, you got Jalen Tolbert, 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.320 you got Jalen Brooks. It's you got c D, you 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.320 got Brandon, and a bunch of guys named Jayalen. 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.759 I hope they's not forget either. 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:59.080 You got and you got one as a slot receiver, 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:04.799 now right. They heard you the other day, Yeah, talking 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.480 about it, that's right, all right? 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.239 So with me, first of all, they didn't hear him. 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:09.919 I was the one. 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:18.879 I was the week before. I wouldn't hear last, all right. 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.080 So Savannah, you've talked to a couple of Jalens. 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:25.120 Yes, So my focus last week was to look at 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.600 that third guy as far as you know, who's going 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.120 to step up to the plate here. And I talked 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.560 to both Jalen Brooks and uh Jalen Tolbert in the 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.160 locker room last week, and uh, I know, one thing 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.839 that we were talking about was the trip that Dak 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.480 plans every year where he takes the wide receivers and they, 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.960 you know, go and bond and do some field work. 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:50.320 So I asked Jalen Tolbert, he went last year to Atlanta. 0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.560 This year they're going to Portland, Oregon. So that's their 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.440 their trip this year. And uh, I asked him, you know, 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.799 his kind of connection to Dak right now and as 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.680 far as what they're doing off the field and outside 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:09.200 of the Star, and he said he gets with Dak 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.480 about once or twice a week outside of the Star 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.000 and that he said, you can tell that the chemistry 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.040 is continuing to grow. It's special to have a quarterback 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.000 who believes in you, understands you as a person and 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.160 as a player. So I really like their kind of 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.600 bond that they're having right now. And then when I 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:29.719 talk to Jalen Tolbert, I kind of asked him what 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.439 he's working on as far as his physicality and speed goes, 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:36.320 because you know, I think that was something that he 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.040 was trying to work on off of his rookie season. 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.120 He said his goal right now is working on his 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:46.120 lower body strength and conditioning, stabilization. He wants to get 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.720 off the press really well, being able to maintain balance 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:52.239 after catches, might being able to jump forward a little 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.840 bit more. But he's using a sand pit as his 0:52:56.200 --> 0:53:00.960 outside very nice. So I liked hearing that he gets 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.120 with a couple of the other wide receivers and does 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.440 a sand pitt. Is his kind of off season outside 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.480 of her training, I ran a god, it was horrible. 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.120 I ran a four of your dash on a sand 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:13.000 based turf. 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.920 Tough to get fast off. 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.879 Way way. The other way much slower, but it's good 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.880 for the It's good for the joints right and your muscles. 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.640 It will help you longevity. 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:31.800 It's interesting that a guy that wears Jordan's brand shoes 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:37.720 and other gear would be taking his receivers to Portland, Oregon. 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:40.359 Very good. 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.880 That's why I want what's the connection? Connection? 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.800 Headquarters are in Portland, track. 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:51.080 Like, why would you pick Portland? 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:56.960 I mean the weather though, Arizona. 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:59.480 Or they go with Atlanta. Where did this come in from? 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:00.520 Gee? 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:02.000 I wonder why Oregon? 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.919 Huh, it's not far from U Gene. 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.880 But yeah, that trip that they do is always before 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:08.640 training camps. 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.760 Let me give you a sleeper guy that caught my attention, 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:15.960 Ryan Floornoy six round draft pick Racy McMath. 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:17.600 You know he. 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:23.520 Did the head racey McMath. I saw this guy out 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:30.200 there eighty who's huge, he's six three two twenty four, 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:35.160 went to LSU and probably got overshadowed about. 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.520 Neighbors and those guys. 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:41.239 Not neighbors, Jefferson and jermal He was a six round 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.480 draft pick of Tennessee in twenty one, and so Jefferson 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.480 came out the year before that, it was and then 0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:51.759 Chase was that year, right, Jamar Chase. So I looked 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:56.919 up his background and the first two years he had 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:01.200 injuries hip injury, I think he told me, and he 0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:05.120 was ended up on practice squads, then got released again. 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:10.040 The Cowboys put him on the practice squad. Uh. Coming 0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:13.600 out for his like pro day, he ran a four 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:14.359 to three nine. 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.560 Wow at sixty. 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.400 They don't have slow receivers. 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:23.880 Right, So I don't know where he kind of fits in, 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.360 But I just saw him make a couple of catches 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.239 in a couple of runs, and I'm going, who's this guy? 0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.280 Well, I don't worry about blocking. If I need a blacker, 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:37.440 I'll put a tight end out there taking up. 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.200 Another guy that we were looking at was Princeton Fan. 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.719 He's an undrafted free agent out of Tennessee and he 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:47.359 is huge. 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:52.560 Rookie this year, first year, he was a practice squad 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:53.160 last year. 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.080 Six to two hundred and thirty five pounds. 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:01.400 He is just built huge, Actually two fifties, Savannah, he's fifty. 0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.920 Well that's what they listening on this. 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:06.279 He got down. 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.799 You probably have his combine weight where he got down 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.440 to he can run faster, and but his true weights 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:14.600 up to two fifty. 0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:22.840 And because of their missing uh tight ends. So Schoonmakers 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:30.880 still rehabbing, Peyton Hendershot still rehabing. Uh, Stevens still rehabing. 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:35.680 This guy's gotten some first team reps because of those 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:40.480 guys being missing. So he's he's you know, good, that's 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:45.400 why you noticed his number. Yeah, absolutely. Hmmm. 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:49.280 So you think maybe we don't have to go outside 0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.000 the organization to find some players who can step up 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:52.759 this year? Huh? 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:53.760 Young guys. 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:54.560 I keep telling you. 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.600 Actually, Mike McCarthy keeps saying that that their biggest improvement 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:04.760 on this roster has to come from within and young guys. 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.839 And they need, by the way, Micah Parsons to get 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:10.360 his button. 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.360 That's the next thing we're gonna talk about. 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:20.280 Okay, I got that off my chest here doing. 0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:29.440 I understand. Listen with Mickey rant I understand, I understand, 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:31.000 I understand. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:36.640 The boxing thing, right. But he came last week for 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:40.120 the media days stuff, went through all that, but he 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:46.640 didn't stay. So you know, at some point, if you're 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.880 going to be the leader of this defense, you need 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:53.560 to bond with these players. And and and they're watching now. 0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.720 I know players, they know how talented he was, and 0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.959 they won't hold it against them. But still you gotta 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:04.520 new defensive coordinator with somewhat of a new defensive system. 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:09.680 And I still get the feeling that Mike Zimmer would 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.720 like to use three linebackers and they would like to 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.640 put him at anbacker at the time. 0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:18.960 But now he's it's a negotiation thing right in the contract. 0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:21.720 Well, I don't know if that's behind it or not, 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.360 or that you know, he never he's never done this. 0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:26.520 He did this last year. 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:27.640 No, he did last year. 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.960 He trained on his own and he was in good shape, 0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:31.560 you know. 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:32.120 And and. 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:37.440 Uh M talked about Yeah, he talked about how he 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:41.080 you know, he he stays in contact da da da da. 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:48.360 But he also said something to effect, but you should 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:53.480 never miss opportunities to be to improve or kind of 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:57.320 be with your team. So while I thought McCarthy said, oh, 0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:01.240 you know, no big deal, but I deep down to 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.880 him it was a big deal. Now he's. 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:10.240 I think, I think with a new defense, yes he 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:10.720 should be. 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:15.840 But he McCarthy did acknowledge that in his press conference 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:20.880 last week. Publicly, Yeah, they publicly acknowledged what he's missing 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:21.880 by not being here. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.600 That's good because has got a few more. 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:30.080 Yeah, and his point was, you got to do this 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.080 stuff now so that when we hit the ground in 0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:37.880 Oxnard on July twenty third, by the way, and they're 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:41.880 there to August twenty second, that you're ready to go. 0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:46.960 You're not playing ketchup and so yeah, so it'll be 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:50.320 interesting to see. Now you get fine for missing mini 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:51.200 camp practice. 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.240 Now last year, then you don't have to do anything. 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.040 You just going to say last year Zach Martin was here, 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:02.040 he just didn't do anything. He had that hamstring, right, Yeah. 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:03.960 Well they weren't putting it in new offense either. 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:07.600 Uh so you can show up and say I got 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.680 an ankle, but at least be here, be in the meetings, 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.880 be with your teammates. That's kind of my point. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:19.640 Do you like, ever since this setup where they basically 1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.520 have an off season where they start April twentieth or 1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:26.960 so with the official off season program and end they're 1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:30.960 ending this week because he's let's say June tenth, and 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:33.200 then you have the break before training camp, or do 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:37.480 you like the proposal that's out there that they would 1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:41.080 not have to do anything until June and then they 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:45.240 would basically you're doing a three week ramp up to 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.400 training camp. You just go right into training camp. 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.440 That sounds more like old school the latter you know, 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:52.640 we you didn't have anything. 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.040 Well, yeah, I mean back back in the day. We 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.160 have many camp Back in the day, I mean we're 1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:00.400 talking fifty years ago, sixty fifty five years ago. The 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:05.160 Cowboys would they basically the rookies. The rookies would report 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:07.960 to training camp in Thousand Oaks basically the fourth of July. 1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:11.360 Fourth of July was to start a training camp. Basically, oh, 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:13.800 and they would be there for a couple of weeks 1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:16.760 and then the Vets would be there and they would 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:19.320 they would and even the Vets would still be there 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:24.240 for like six weeks from July seventeenth until September. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:27.000 First or whatever. The regular season, and you had opportunities, 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:29.320 you know, to work out. You sign in, you had 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.680 the opportunities to work out in the off season all 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:36.200 off season, and if you did, you well, they had 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:38.560 a little motivation and things and well I think they 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:39.120 gave Way. 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:41.880 Watches and stuff like that for you know, doing well 1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:44.080 and coming for like the sixty days in the off 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:46.520 season or forty days in the off season, and so 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:49.440 that opportunity was always there for the veterans. So that 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:52.480 kind of reminds me of the latter proposal that you 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:53.040 talked about. 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:57.640 I remember asking D d Lewis. I don't know how 1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:00.680 we got on the subject during the interview, but about 1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:05.480 off season workouts. I said, so, how much did you 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:09.240 work out in the off season? He goes, oh, he goes, 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:13.160 My workouts were in the pool and I said, you swam? 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:16.440 He goes, no, I did twelve ounce curls. 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:23.160 Well, DD's body because it shows that he played with 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:26.440 his writing experience. DD was not a guy that was 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:29.560 gonna go out there and muscle someone. He played with instincts. 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:33.800 So and I must admit I did not enjoy coming 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:35.480 up to the practice field and work out. I did 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:36.560 a lot of stuff on my own. 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:38.600 Uh did you do it indoors? 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:39.200 No? 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:43.040 I was come on, I was still did swimming, basketball. 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:46.640 I mean it was micah before. I did a lot 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:47.040 of stuff. 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:49.680 I was referring to. Your weight room was outdoors. 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:53.440 Oh no, I didn't do weights, No, no, no, weights. 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:54.360 I didn't do wights. 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:57.840 Sand Pitt, Yeah, sanm Pitt. 1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:00.520 I love sant Pitt. No I did. I did work 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.840 like that, that stuff that could not break you down, 1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:06.400 but build up your muscles, and working in the sand 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:10.760 pit does that. I wasn't into running four hundred meters. 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:13.680 How many times you can run four hundred meters and 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:17.120 all that crap. To me, that is not football. You know. 1:03:17.200 --> 1:03:18.680 When it comes to football, you have to be able 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:20.640 to play football. And I wanted to do one on 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.720 one coverage. I wanted to do what I was good at. 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.880 Tackling is one thing, but I made my living playing 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.520 one on one. So as long as I did things, 1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:33.120 That's why I played tennis, That's why I played basketball 1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:36.080 because those helped me with my man to man technique. 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:38.720 Yeah, so did you have to run the Landry Mile? 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:40.640 Yeah? It was a mount and a half, by the way, 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:43.000 mile and a half. Yes, Dry mile is a mount 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:43.280 and a half. 1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:44.680 How many game? 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:49.400 I just hated it, dude, just at that time. Now, 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:51.040 I'm a half manthon I guy. 1:03:50.920 --> 1:03:53.200 But I hate the best in Everson Walls. In his 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:58.000 career sixteen games in eighty one strike shortened season eighty 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:01.280 two nine games. He's a regular season game sixteen games 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:04.080 in eighty three, sixteen and eighty four sixteen and eighty 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:08.080 five sixteen and eighty six strike shortened season in eighty 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:12.520 seven twelve games, eighty eight sixteen games, eighty nine sixteen, 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:17.280 ninety sixteen games, ninety one fourteen games in ninety two 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:21.040 sixteen games. So how many games did you miss in 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:25.400 your career? Two two in that nineteen and the Giants 1:04:25.440 --> 1:04:28.080 in ninety one season, it seemed to worry. 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:29.120 Got my ReBs cracked. 1:04:31.120 --> 1:04:32.440 Did you do try to make a tackle? 1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:33.400 Yeah? 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:38.520 He already said, it's man and man coverage one on one. 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.320 And look how many games players are missing today? You 1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:46.360 got a weightlifting that's it. It's the weightlifting. 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:52.960 I think the argument for beginning the off season stuff 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:56.040 in June, middle of June whatever, and then blending in 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:59.880 the training camp is the quality of play might pick 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:04.360 up because you're more ready than to take six six 1:05:04.480 --> 1:05:07.160 weeks six weeks off before training camp. 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.040 See, now they're on their own for the next six 1:05:09.120 --> 1:05:12.360 weeks to try to keep what they're already started this offseason. 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:15.320 And now they're different than we were. You know, they're 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:15.840 just different. 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:20.000 Well, guys probably in better shape, don't you think, Yeah? 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:23.360 Remember you you I don't know if you guys had 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:26.080 this available, but all of them go to these different 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:30.960 workout places, like the offensive linemen, the wide receivers. 1:05:31.840 --> 1:05:31.920 No. 1:05:33.720 --> 1:05:38.280 Specific thrills. Yeah, okay, we're out of time. We're passed 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:38.760 out of time. 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:43.320 Covered a lot of all right, and covered it well. 1:05:43.320 --> 1:05:43.920 Yes we did. 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:49.080 Okay, So next time we chat at y'all, it'll be Oxnard, 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:50.560 California or beyond. 1:05:51.120 --> 1:05:52.800 Are you going to be done with all this hockey 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:53.520 and basketball? 1:05:54.160 --> 1:06:00.120 Hockey right now? With basketball? Hopefully in four games? Is 1:06:00.120 --> 1:06:01.240 gonna be done with basketball? 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:03.480 And if the Rangers keep going, you won't have to 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:04.160 deal with them. 1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:05.160 M hm. 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:07.520 Number one five out of the last six. Now that's 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:11.000 players are on the injured list coming back. 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:13.480 I told you he's gonna he's gonna rap him up. 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.600 He knows exactly what he's. 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.120 Got, an entire tire, starting pitching staff. 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:22.160 He what he's doing. All right? 1:06:22.960 --> 1:06:25.440 Does it for Mick Shines? We will chat at you 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:26.080 next time. 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:29.880 R R I pe Larry Allen and Gold Cowboys. 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:33.520 This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:35.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.