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Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It is a Monday morning, the first Monday of June

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Speaker 3: inside the SWBC podcast studio, our final mix shots until

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Speaker 3: the start of training camp twenty twenty four, and we're

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Speaker 3: getting you ready for the Cowboys mandatory mini camp this week.

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Speaker 3: We got so much to talk about, getting you set

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Speaker 3: Cowboys get set to start the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 3: As the off season wraps up, Bill Jones with Everson Walls, Savannah,

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Speaker 3: Hughmoller and Mickey Spagnola. But we have just learned of

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Speaker 3: some tragic news that we first need to pass along

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Speaker 3: and Mickey, would you like to do it or you

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Speaker 3: want me to read the email? Keepers go the email

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Speaker 3: that was just sent out by the Cowboys announcement from

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys on the passing of Larry Allen. Cowboys are

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Speaker 3: very saddened to share the Cowboys legend, Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Ring of Honor member and Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 3: Famer Larry Allen passed away suddenly while on vacation in

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Speaker 3: Mexico with his family on Sunday. Larry, known for his

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Speaker 3: great athleticism and incredible strength, was one of the most

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Speaker 3: respected accomplished offensive linemen who ever play in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: His versatility and dependability are also signature parts of his career.

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Speaker 3: Through that, he continued to serve as inspiration for many

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Speaker 3: other players, defining what it meant to be a great teammate, competitor,

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Speaker 3: and winner. He was deeply loved and cared for by

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Speaker 3: his wife, Janelle, whom he referred to as his heart

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Speaker 3: and soul, his daughters Jayla and Lariana, and son Larry

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Speaker 3: the Third. The Jones family and the Cowboys extend their

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Speaker 3: deepest condolences, thoughts, and prayers to the Allen family and

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Speaker 3: grieve along with the many other friends and Cowboys teammates

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Speaker 3: that also loved Larry. Memorial service arrangements and details will

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Speaker 3: be announced in the near future. So that is the

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Speaker 3: news that we are met with as we walk in

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Speaker 2: Morning, and puts a downer on mix shots, doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It puts it down on everything?

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Speaker 5: Actually very sad.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, as a former player, of course, have to

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Speaker 4: give much respect to him. One of the aletic offensive

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Speaker 4: lineman that is known in the NFL. Really a feel

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Speaker 4: good story because I think he came from a small

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Speaker 4: college state Sonoma State and ended up just being one

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Speaker 4: of John Madden's favorite And that's when you when you

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Speaker 4: hit the when you hit hit the mountaintop is when

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Speaker 4: John Madden speaks of you like he did with Nate

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Speaker 2: And they had to go through Butte Junior College to

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Speaker 4: What Butte Junior College?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh actually, if I have my story right,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers went there also. It's in north of San

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Speaker 3: Is where Butte College is.

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Speaker 4: It must be one of those, uh like Coffeeville, Kansas.

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Speaker 4: You know. It was always known for having big time

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Speaker 2: So in twenty sixteen, hopefully we can resurrect us. On

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, we did a legends piece on

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Speaker 2: Larry Allen and we went to California to do the interviews,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it was quite a story because they were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh by the way, oh by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, and they found them.

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Speaker 2: He grew up in south central.

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Speaker 2: As bad as it was. And when he got to

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Speaker 2: he goes, well, Larry keeps writing checks for the pizzas

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Speaker 2: And he and he ended up at oh Napa Napa

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Larry ended up Uh. He was commuting from his

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Speaker 2: And finally the family took him in. And it was

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Speaker 2: they're talking to him and I remember the coach the

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Speaker 2: And so just to get a workout, he has this

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Speaker 2: Larry brings them in to the gym and the head

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Speaker 2: coach says, yeah, you know, I'll think of the assistant

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, it was quite a remarkable, remarkable story.

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Speaker 2: So the coach gets his wife to take them shopping

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Speaker 2: so they're looking for shoes and Larry goes, I really

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Speaker 2: So when he made it in the NFL, got his contract,

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Speaker 2: So anyway, it was. It was a remarkable story tracking

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Speaker 2: after what was he here? Twelve thirteen years?

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Speaker 3: How many years he was twelve years nineteen ninety four

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Speaker 2: But he was actually affable, funny.

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Speaker 3: And very very very soft spoken. Yes, during his time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he opened up and it was it was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Crazy. I mean, Luk started trying his

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Speaker 2: They thought they thought they were sheating, that the guy

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Speaker 4: Right. You can't find the Larry Allen out there these days.

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Speaker 4: Not much too much coverage, too much internet, right, they can't.

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Speaker 3: And the stories, I mean, you could call him Larry

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: As slow as I was, I'm pretty sure he would

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many guys come out of Sonoma State.

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Speaker 9: This guy's got a rocket.

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Speaker 4: Hoster.

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Speaker 3: Alan is still standing there.

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Speaker 4: There he is to the left yard screen.

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Speaker 3: They've got a running start at us.

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Speaker 2: No, he's standing. I remember seeing it. It's like a sprinter.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, that's one of the most impressive athletic.

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Speaker 4: Feats I have ever. That's true.

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Speaker 2: I remember watching it and I'm seeing him because he's coming.

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Speaker 4: That was not no, that was easy, easy tackle.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And yeah try this segue. Uh huh, Hey, I'll help

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Speaker 4: Glad they build a big books.

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Speaker 2: It's June third. June sixth is the eightieth anniversary of

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Speaker 2: We're going Those guys turned, those guys turned.

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Speaker 3: The plague, I mean, they play on and on and

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Speaker 12: It was a little heartbreaking, but very proud of what

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Speaker 4: They kept watch, they kept.

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Speaker 3: You talk about it, valiantly trying to get that mayor

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Speaker 2: I started looking up those damn officials too, but there

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Speaker 3: In this case, the defense wins championships.

442
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: Yes he did.

443
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: They had a discipline defense on that other side, yep.

444
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: And uh, we still have the Mavericks alive. I'm headed

445
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: to Boston tomorrow and so well, you know.

446
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: My brother knows more about hockey than I do. And

447
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: I said, look, man, the goalie looks pretty good, and

448
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: he said he's okay.

449
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: Was that just the goalie for the other team. Yes,

450
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: that's what I understand.

451
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: You know what happened.

452
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at sometimes you can have your your your

453
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: teammates can be in there helping you out.

454
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Of those thirty some shots on goal, I bet thirty

455
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: of them were right at them, Like they weren't good

456
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: score chances. They were getting the puck on goal.

457
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: Maybe he was always positioned well.

458
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: Now they just never had open They didn't have any

459
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: open shots like their second goal and that first one

460
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the penalty.

461
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Hey, we had our chances. We had our chances, They

462
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: had many power plays.

463
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Speaker 2: And.

464
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: Now we devoted two minutes to that, and now we

465
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Speaker 3: move on to the happiness here for the happiest.

466
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: I just want to know that Cowboys had lots like that.

467
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Who gets to blame for this?

468
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: Right? Right?

469
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Because it can't be the other teams better than you?

470
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: Right.

471
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Speaker 3: Happiest man in America today is whom Cede Lamb? Or

472
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: is it Justin Jefferson?

473
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Speaker 2: Because I'm coming right out, I was going to say

474
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Speaker 2: the second half.

475
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: Lamb, it's the same firm.

476
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Speaker 3: Come on, So what were the numbers?

477
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: The numbers?

478
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Speaker 12: We have a sign deal with Justin Jefferson for four years,

479
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 12: one hundred and forty million dollar extension that includes one

480
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 12: hundred and ten million dollar guarantee.

481
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: That's thirty five million per year.

482
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: The highest non quarterback contract in NFL history, and he's

483
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: due eighty eight point seven million at signing. So between

484
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: guaranteed base salary and the signing bonus, that's a pretty

485
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: good chunk of change.

486
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 12: Well, Bill, last week, we were all discussing this as

487
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 12: to who was potentially going to go in first, and

488
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Speaker 12: Justin Jefferson is obviously the one that took took.

489
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Speaker 5: The bait first.

490
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Speaker 12: So now that really does set ceede Lamb up to

491
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 12: kind of look at his options, and I would assume

492
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 12: so that CD's going to go for quite a higher deal.

493
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Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be much higher. It'll lead close

494
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: to the same agent. Yeah, that's be Yeah, that's that's agent.

495
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: Be close to it. Yeah. So and we did. That's

496
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: exactly what we talked about last year as well. One

497
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: comes in and the other one was right behind him.

498
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: And the other thing is why Justin Jefferson went first

499
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: is the Vikings aren't paying a quarterback or a top

500
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Speaker 3: defensive player about to pay him what the Cowboys are

501
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: having to pay, and so there it was easier for

502
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: them to fork over the four years one hundred and

503
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: forty million and all the guarantees right now.

504
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: So if you.

505
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Speaker 2: If you look at their careers, I trying to find

506
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: I wrote down Jefferson's numbers.

507
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: Did I do that? Well?

508
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: He had three hundred and ninety two catches in sixty games,

509
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: five and ninety nine yards, which, by the way, is

510
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: the most of an NFL receiver in the first four

511
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: years of a career, thirty touchdowns c D three hundred

512
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: and they were in the same draft class. Remember, wow,

513
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: CD went seventeen to the Cowboys. He went twenty one

514
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: to Minnesota. And if you're wondering who got drafted ahead

515
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: of them, Chase Henry Ruggs.

516
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: You talk of wide receivers, they got dressed to them.

517
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, wide receivers. Henry Ruggs went twelfth, Jerry Judy fifteenth,

518
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: and then after CD went seventeenth, Jalen Rager went twenty one,

519
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: and they were doing handstands in Minnesota to draft him at.

520
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Philadelphia drafted Raager

521
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: and then Jefferson went to Minnesota, and then Rager wound

522
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: up in Minnesota.

523
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: So CD in sixty six games had three hundred and

524
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: ninety five catches, five and forty five yards, thirty two touchdowns,

525
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: three more or rusheding rushing. So they are one of

526
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: five guys to start their NFL careers in the first

527
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: four years with five thousand yards receiving, which is rather

528
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: remarkable when you consider the receivers that came before them,

529
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: that they would have two five thousand yard receivers in

530
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: that short of time. Jefferson was first. Michael Thomas five,

531
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Speaker 2: five hundred and twelve and sixty three games, Randy Moss

532
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: three hundred ninety six and sixty four Lamb and then

533
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Tory Holt five thousand and eighty eight and if you

534
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: can believe this, Jerry Rice four thousand, eight hundred and

535
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: eighty one in sixty games. But think of the difference,

536
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: how many receptions that is in sixteen game season, and

537
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: how the offense changed from what eighty four Terry Rice

538
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: through the nineties.

539
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: Okay, on SPO track or however you say it, Yes,

540
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: the website s p O t r ac dot com.

541
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: They've already got they are the breakdown.

542
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: They already have the breakdown for the cap hit for

543
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: justice justin Jefferson for the next five years.

544
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: Because I'm an eye last looked they must have just

545
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: done it.

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Speaker 3: And so, and what's interesting about this is because Jefferson

547
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: was in the same draft, just four picks later than CD.

548
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: They are.

549
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: They are on similar contracts right now, and so there

550
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: it's apples to apples.

551
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: His was two million more fifty year option. I think

552
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: that was nineteen million.

553
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: But so here's the here's the way it's been structured

554
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: by the Vikings. And now compare this to what the

555
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: Cowboys have facing them with a DAC contract looming, with

556
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: a MICA contract looming, which the Vikings don't have, so

557
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: they can just do whatever they want to manage the money.

558
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: The cap hit this year for Justin Jefferson is eight

559
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: point five million dollars, Next year fifteen point three million,

560
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six thirty nine million, in twenty twenty

561
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: seven forty three point three nine seven million, and then

562
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: in twenty eight forty seven point three eight million.

563
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Does it show where the guarantees run.

564
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: Out after he's a potential cut after the twenty seven season,

565
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: which would be a four year, one hundred twenty five

566
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: million dollars dead money. No dead money then would be, well,

567
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: they'll let you look at it if you want, but okay,

568
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: look at how they are able to structure that where

569
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: he counts x amount of dollars thirty seven million in

570
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: one year, forty three and another and then times three

571
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: times what cowboys have to do with DAK, which they

572
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: already have money sitting there on DAK, and what they

573
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: have to do with Micah, and try to structure this thing.

574
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: And you can understand why it may be a little

575
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: more difficult to structure the CD contract from a Cowboys

576
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 3: perspective than what it was for the Vikings here.

577
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: So they can get out in twenty twenty eight when

578
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: the day salaries forty seven to eight for like seven

579
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: point three million dollars. So if you're that fared, the

580
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: CAP's going to keep going up, right, So that basically

581
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: is you know when we were talking about it last

582
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: week after who signed for thirty two?

583
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 12: Well, it was Aj Brown from well we talked about

584
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 12: the guy from the Texans as.

585
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, right, and the most was Aj Brown at thirty

586
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: two million, I believe his extension. So this is thirty five.

587
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: So CDs looking at the Cowboys are looking at thirty

588
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: five million on a four year deal. And I'm guessing

589
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: that he's supposed to play for seventeen to nine guaranteed

590
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: on his fifty year option this year, so he's got

591
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: to make They got to hand him at least that

592
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: much money, right, if not more for the first year.

593
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: So it's an investment, and that's why the Cowboys are

594
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, okay, are you good with that?

595
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: Because they agreed the thirty five? Now can you agree

596
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: to thirty five? The other thing is when I looked up,

597
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: we need to point out Bill that June second was yesterday.

598
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Michael Gillo.

599
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: They get the Michael Gallay guys, they can add nine

600
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: and a half million to the salary cap and that

601
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: gives them somewhere between ten and twelve million dollars in

602
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: space for just the top fifty one, because that's all

603
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: they count now when you have a ninety man roster.

604
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: But he still counts four point three to five million

605
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: in dead money this year, eight point seven million next

606
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: year to get that nine and a half million back now,

607
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: so they have the ability now to spend a little

608
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: bit more. And my guess was, depending on what happens

609
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: with CD that they might have been waiting for this

610
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: to possibly re sign Stefan Gilmore, who I understand is hell.

611
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: That was my next question, how are you spending the

612
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: freed up Gallop money?

613
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know what my understanding is. He lives

614
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: here now, he wants to stay here.

615
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Stepan Gilmore, Okay, all right, let me ask Everson here.

616
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: You look at the Cowboys' depth chart at cornerback right now,

617
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 3: and you have Trayvon Diggs coming back from his injury

618
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: as one starting corner You hope you have Deron Bland

619
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: the starting corner on the other side, and you've got

620
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis as you're starting slot corner. Beyond that, you

621
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: have Naseean Wright, the third round pick from twenty twenty one, who.

622
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: Is working right now with the first team defense because

623
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Speaker 2: Diggs is still rehabbing, and who.

624
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: Had fifty snaps on defense last year. Eric Scott, sixth

625
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: round draft pick from last year who didn't.

626
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Play last year, working second team.

627
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: Kaylan Carson, the fifth round rookie draft pick out of

628
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 3: wake Forest.

629
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Speaker 4: Akuambu is he going, oh, well.

630
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Speaker 3: He's safety safety. Sheldrick RedWine, Josh Butler. There's your corners.

631
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Speaker 4: They kind of like this.

632
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: Josh Butler guy, Okay, just judging from how they're using

633
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: them in the OTA practices.

634
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: So last week they caught by the way, Josh Butler

635
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: is not a youngster coming in here. He's twenty seven

636
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: years old. He'll be twenty eight in November. He came

637
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: into the league out of Michigan State as a college

638
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: free agent in twenty eighteen.

639
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: And what about red Wine and red Wine is he was.

640
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: A fourth round draft pick of Cleveland in twenty nineteen,

641
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: So those are more veteran guys, and Red Wine got

642
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: seven snaps on defense last year. He was signed to

643
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: the practice squad and then activated.

644
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: Those guys were practice squad guys.

645
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 3: So my question to you ever since, could this team

646
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: use Stefan Gilmore?

647
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, that's easy. I thought you were coming with

648
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: something hard up.

649
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: Seriously, you have three cornerbacks on this roster. You have

650
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: playing experience in this league basically, and Diggs went on

651
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: Lewis but uh didn't lead the league and Digs and blanded. Okay, yeah,

652
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: now you're talking. If you added Gilmore, then you have boy.

653
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: If you added Gilmore, you feel much better about the cornerback.

654
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about with Gilmore.

655
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: With Gilmore, and let me add this.

656
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: And we're working with the assumption that Diggs is Digs

657
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: right right from the start of the scene.

658
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: Because he did it was in September that he suffered

659
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: the ACL injury.

660
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: So but still I get nervous about that, right. You know,

661
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: these are things I didn't pay much attention to as

662
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 4: a player. You know, I never really noticed that it

663
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 4: was tougher for some of these guys to come back

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Speaker 4: from these injuries. First year UH and and Gallup was

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Speaker 4: one of those that were I saw even Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 4: I saw where they did suffer.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: In regards to trying to come back. Probably this coming year,

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Speaker 4: Polo is gonna look like the same guy he looked

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Speaker 4: like two years ago. And you know, maybe Michael Gallup

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Speaker 4: will come back and do the same thing. I'm hoping

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Speaker 4: it doesn't take Diggs and tell you, I don't want

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Speaker 4: that buffer year for for Trayvon back. Now we don't.

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Speaker 4: We can't afford it. We can't afford it. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: need it.

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Speaker 2: And he needs to. Just watching what they're doing out

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Speaker 2: there where he's what's he doing compared to overshown who

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Speaker 2: got hurt in training guys?

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Speaker 4: Right, yes, the.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver, uh, Durton Durden, David Durden toward his A

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Speaker 2: c L in training camp. John Stevens, John, Yeah, Steven Stephen.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, oh, no, that's that's Stephen Jones' son.

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Speaker 3: That would be John Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is John Stephens. Right, those guys looking they're

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Speaker 2: ahead of Diggs. So just from what they're doing and

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Speaker 2: what he's doing with his rehab.

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Speaker 4: So you would talk about how fatigued he was, You're

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Speaker 4: just hoping.

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Speaker 2: That he's ready to come September. What is it ninth tenth,

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Speaker 2: it's September, September eighth.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, having Stefan Gilmore, you have that additional veteran

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Speaker 12: depth at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 5: And then I know we mentioned Jordan Lewis and he did.

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Speaker 12: He came off that injury from the year before, so

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Speaker 12: he's still redeveloping in that position, and.

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Speaker 2: He missed the first four games.

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Speaker 4: I think he seemed to be a guy that handled

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Speaker 4: his rehab very well, and it was that that was

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Speaker 4: really career exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he's he turned twenty nine August thirty.

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Speaker 3: First that he had seven hundred and thirty two snaps

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Speaker 3: on defense last year.

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Speaker 2: And let's point out that Gilmore played that playoff game

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Speaker 2: with a harness sign of course, because he had suffered

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Speaker 2: the shoulder injury that was presurgerily repaired the end of

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Speaker 2: the week, no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt, so I would not have played.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what to me. That's that's kind of a

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Speaker 2: tipping point to what the Cowboys thought of their next

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Speaker 2: corner back up that they didn't want to go there,

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Speaker 2: and they kind of changed how they played in the

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Speaker 2: secondary to accommodate having Gilmore on the field.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to hide an experience in the second day.

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Speaker 4: It's just because they're coming after whoever they put in,

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Speaker 4: they were going to come after him. They came at

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Speaker 4: Gilmore knowing that he was injured, right, so you know,

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Speaker 4: you do the right thing. You're gonna you're gonna attack

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Speaker 4: the weakness. And it didn't matter who was going to

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Speaker 4: play that cornerback position, they going to be attacked. It's

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Speaker 4: just maybe the only thing I could say, you might

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Speaker 4: have might have had a Michael Downs, You might have

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Speaker 4: had the Nerrison Walls that might actually step up and

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Speaker 4: played better than the veteran did while he was injured.

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Speaker 4: So you know, to me, there are times when you

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Speaker 4: can't believe the press clippics. You know you have to

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Speaker 4: play outside of that. If you look at the way

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Speaker 4: we came into nineteen eighty one, no one thought you

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Speaker 4: have Michael Downs at safety, and if you did have

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Speaker 4: Michael Downs, you would not expect him to play as

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Speaker 4: well as he did, so, right, So, sometimes the story

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Speaker 4: doesn't match the individual. Throw him out there. You just

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Speaker 4: never know what could have happened. I mean, obviously you're

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Speaker 4: out there with a guy. It kind of goes to

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Speaker 4: his reputation. I don't want to give more out there

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Speaker 4: playing like he did. Now everyone's looking at him as

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Speaker 4: some type of weakness, not knowing the background of how

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Speaker 4: his shoulder was being.

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Speaker 2: And who would take his place to thank you?

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Speaker 4: And that's the whole point. Who would have taken his place?

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Speaker 4: He may have stepped up, he may have done better.

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Speaker 4: So sometimes you can't just go with with the resume.

742
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Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta go with your gun and see what

743
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Speaker 4: the guy can do.

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Speaker 2: That's just you know, do we need to take any

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Speaker 2: the state of the break?

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Speaker 3: And we have our final segment of this offseason when

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Speaker 3: All, right, final segment here before we take a little

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Speaker 3: break and Mickey, there are not ninety players on this roster,

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Speaker 3: right eighty six eighty six, So there's room to sign

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Speaker 3: four players from the United Football League, right Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean think what happened two years ago? There was

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Speaker 3: a player from the USFL in Cavante Turpin who turned

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Speaker 3: out to be a Pro bowler. What happened last year

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Speaker 3: there was a player from the USFL named Brandon Aubrey

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Speaker 3: who wound up being a Pro Bowl player. And so

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Speaker 3: do you think maybe there's something the Pro Bowl players

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Speaker 3: on on a UFL roster right now? Maybe there's four

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Speaker 3: of them that'll be signed by the start of training camp.

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Speaker 3: Mickey's nodding an agreement there. He likes that idea.

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Speaker 2: But signing those guys, you're signing to Rooking minimums. Although

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Speaker 2: the minimums going up, that's right, seven one thousands, So

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Speaker 2: if you signed four guys, that's another three million.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're saving that Michael Gallup money, right, all right?

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Speaker 3: So a position we talked about, cornerbacks is another position

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Speaker 3: group that seems like it might be a little light

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Speaker 3: as far as the depth goes, would be the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver position. You got C. D Lamb, You got Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 2: Well, you hope you have CD Lamb.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you hope you have.

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Speaker 2: Not passing up.

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Speaker 3: That's even more to my boint. What if you don't

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Speaker 3: have and then you've got Brandon Cooks, you got Jalen Tolbert,

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Speaker 3: you got Jalen Brooks. It's you got c D, you

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Speaker 3: got Brandon, and a bunch of guys named Jayalen.

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Speaker 4: I hope they's not forget either.

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Speaker 14: You got and you got one as a slot receiver,

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Speaker 14: now right. They heard you the other day, Yeah, talking

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Speaker 14: about it, that's right, all right?

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Speaker 4: So with me, first of all, they didn't hear him.

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Speaker 4: I was the one.

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Speaker 3: I was the week before. I wouldn't hear last, all right.

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Speaker 3: So Savannah, you've talked to a couple of Jalens.

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Speaker 12: Yes, So my focus last week was to look at

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Speaker 12: that third guy as far as you know, who's going

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Speaker 12: to step up to the plate here. And I talked

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Speaker 12: to both Jalen Brooks and uh Jalen Tolbert in the

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Speaker 12: locker room last week, and uh, I know, one thing

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Speaker 12: that we were talking about was the trip that Dak

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Speaker 12: plans every year where he takes the wide receivers and they,

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Speaker 12: you know, go and bond and do some field work.

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Speaker 12: So I asked Jalen Tolbert, he went last year to Atlanta.

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Speaker 12: This year they're going to Portland, Oregon. So that's their

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Speaker 12: their trip this year. And uh, I asked him, you know,

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Speaker 12: his kind of connection to Dak right now and as

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Speaker 12: far as what they're doing off the field and outside

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Speaker 12: of the Star, and he said he gets with Dak

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Speaker 12: about once or twice a week outside of the Star

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Speaker 12: and that he said, you can tell that the chemistry

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Speaker 12: is continuing to grow. It's special to have a quarterback

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Speaker 12: who believes in you, understands you as a person and

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Speaker 12: as a player. So I really like their kind of

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Speaker 12: bond that they're having right now. And then when I

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Speaker 12: talk to Jalen Tolbert, I kind of asked him what

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Speaker 12: he's working on as far as his physicality and speed goes,

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Speaker 12: because you know, I think that was something that he

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Speaker 12: was trying to work on off of his rookie season.

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Speaker 12: He said his goal right now is working on his

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Speaker 12: lower body strength and conditioning, stabilization. He wants to get

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Speaker 12: off the press really well, being able to maintain balance

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Speaker 12: after catches, might being able to jump forward a little

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Speaker 12: bit more. But he's using a sand pit as his

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Speaker 12: outside very nice. So I liked hearing that he gets

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Speaker 12: with a couple of the other wide receivers and does

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Speaker 12: a sand pitt. Is his kind of off season outside

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Speaker 12: of her training, I ran a god, it was horrible.

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Speaker 4: I ran a four of your dash on a sand

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Speaker 4: based turf.

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Speaker 2: Tough to get fast off.

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Speaker 4: Way way. The other way much slower, but it's good

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Speaker 4: for the It's good for the joints right and your muscles.

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Speaker 4: It will help you longevity.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that a guy that wears Jordan's brand shoes

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Speaker 3: and other gear would be taking his receivers to Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 4: That's why I want what's the connection? Connection?

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Speaker 3: Headquarters are in Portland, track.

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Speaker 4: Like, why would you pick Portland?

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Speaker 5: I mean the weather though, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Or they go with Atlanta. Where did this come in from?

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Speaker 3: Gee?

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Speaker 4: I wonder why Oregon?

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Speaker 2: Huh, it's not far from U Gene.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that trip that they do is always before

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Speaker 5: training camps.

881
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: Let me give you a sleeper guy that caught my attention,

882
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: Ryan Floornoy six round draft pick Racy McMath.

883
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 15: You know he.

884
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: Did the head racey McMath. I saw this guy out

885
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: there eighty who's huge, he's six three two twenty four,

886
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: went to LSU and probably got overshadowed about.

887
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: Neighbors and those guys.

888
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: Not neighbors, Jefferson and jermal He was a six round

889
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: draft pick of Tennessee in twenty one, and so Jefferson

890
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: came out the year before that, it was and then

891
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: Chase was that year, right, Jamar Chase. So I looked

892
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: up his background and the first two years he had

893
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: injuries hip injury, I think he told me, and he

894
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: was ended up on practice squads, then got released again.

895
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: The Cowboys put him on the practice squad. Uh. Coming

896
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: out for his like pro day, he ran a four

897
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: to three nine.

898
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 8: Wow at sixty.

899
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 4: They don't have slow receivers.

900
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: Right, So I don't know where he kind of fits in,

901
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 3: But I just saw him make a couple of catches

902
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: in a couple of runs, and I'm going, who's this guy?

903
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Well, I don't worry about blocking. If I need a blacker,

904
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: I'll put a tight end out there taking up.

905
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 12: Another guy that we were looking at was Princeton Fan.

906
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 12: He's an undrafted free agent out of Tennessee and he

907
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 12: is huge.

908
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Rookie this year, first year, he was a practice squad

909
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: last year.

910
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: Six to two hundred and thirty five pounds.

911
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: He is just built huge, Actually two fifties, Savannah, he's fifty.

912
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: Well that's what they listening on this.

913
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 4: He got down.

914
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: You probably have his combine weight where he got down

915
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: to he can run faster, and but his true weights

916
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: up to two fifty.

917
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: And because of their missing uh tight ends. So Schoonmakers

918
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: still rehabbing, Peyton Hendershot still rehabing. Uh, Stevens still rehabing.

919
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: This guy's gotten some first team reps because of those

920
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: guys being missing. So he's he's you know, good, that's

921
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: why you noticed his number. Yeah, absolutely. Hmmm.

922
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: So you think maybe we don't have to go outside

923
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: the organization to find some players who can step up

924
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: this year? Huh?

925
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: Young guys.

926
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: I keep telling you.

927
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Actually, Mike McCarthy keeps saying that that their biggest improvement

928
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: on this roster has to come from within and young guys.

929
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: And they need, by the way, Micah Parsons to get

930
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: his button.

931
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: That's the next thing we're gonna talk about.

932
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I got that off my chest here doing.

933
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: I understand. Listen with Mickey rant I understand, I understand,

934
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: I understand.

935
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: The boxing thing, right. But he came last week for

936
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: the media days stuff, went through all that, but he

937
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: didn't stay. So you know, at some point, if you're

938
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: going to be the leader of this defense, you need

939
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: to bond with these players. And and and they're watching now.

940
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: I know players, they know how talented he was, and

941
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 2: they won't hold it against them. But still you gotta

942
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator with somewhat of a new defensive system.

943
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: And I still get the feeling that Mike Zimmer would

944
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: like to use three linebackers and they would like to

945
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: put him at anbacker at the time.

946
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: But now he's it's a negotiation thing right in the contract.

947
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's behind it or not,

948
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: or that you know, he never he's never done this.

949
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: He did this last year.

950
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 4: No, he did last year.

951
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: He trained on his own and he was in good shape,

952
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: you know.

953
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: And and.

954
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: Uh M talked about Yeah, he talked about how he

955
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: you know, he he stays in contact da da da da.

956
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: But he also said something to effect, but you should

957
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: never miss opportunities to be to improve or kind of

958
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: be with your team. So while I thought McCarthy said, oh,

959
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal, but I deep down to

960
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: him it was a big deal. Now he's.

961
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: I think, I think with a new defense, yes he

962
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: should be.

963
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: But he McCarthy did acknowledge that in his press conference

964
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: last week. Publicly, Yeah, they publicly acknowledged what he's missing

965
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: by not being here.

966
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: That's good because has got a few more.

967
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his point was, you got to do this

968
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: stuff now so that when we hit the ground in

969
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: Oxnard on July twenty third, by the way, and they're

970
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: there to August twenty second, that you're ready to go.

971
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: You're not playing ketchup and so yeah, so it'll be

972
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: interesting to see. Now you get fine for missing mini

973
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: camp practice.

974
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: Now last year, then you don't have to do anything.

975
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: You just going to say last year Zach Martin was here,

976
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: he just didn't do anything. He had that hamstring, right, Yeah.

977
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: Well they weren't putting it in new offense either.

978
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: Uh so you can show up and say I got

979
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: an ankle, but at least be here, be in the meetings,

980
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: be with your teammates. That's kind of my point.

981
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: Do you like, ever since this setup where they basically

982
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: have an off season where they start April twentieth or

983
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 3: so with the official off season program and end they're

984
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: ending this week because he's let's say June tenth, and

985
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: then you have the break before training camp, or do

986
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: you like the proposal that's out there that they would

987
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: not have to do anything until June and then they

988
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: would basically you're doing a three week ramp up to

989
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: training camp. You just go right into training camp.

990
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: That sounds more like old school the latter you know,

991
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: we you didn't have anything.

992
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean back back in the day. We

993
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: have many camp Back in the day, I mean we're

994
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: talking fifty years ago, sixty fifty five years ago. The

995
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: Cowboys would they basically the rookies. The rookies would report

996
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: to training camp in Thousand Oaks basically the fourth of July.

997
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: Fourth of July was to start a training camp. Basically, oh,

998
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: and they would be there for a couple of weeks

999
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: and then the Vets would be there and they would

1000
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: they would and even the Vets would still be there

1001
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: for like six weeks from July seventeenth until September.

1002
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 15: First or whatever. The regular season, and you had opportunities,

1003
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 15: you know, to work out. You sign in, you had

1004
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 15: the opportunities to work out in the off season all

1005
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 15: off season, and if you did, you well, they had

1006
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 15: a little motivation and things and well I think they

1007
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 15: gave Way.

1008
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Watches and stuff like that for you know, doing well

1009
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: and coming for like the sixty days in the off

1010
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: season or forty days in the off season, and so

1011
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: that opportunity was always there for the veterans. So that

1012
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: kind of reminds me of the latter proposal that you

1013
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: talked about.

1014
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: I remember asking D d Lewis. I don't know how

1015
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: we got on the subject during the interview, but about

1016
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: off season workouts. I said, so, how much did you

1017
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: work out in the off season? He goes, oh, he goes,

1018
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: My workouts were in the pool and I said, you swam?

1019
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: He goes, no, I did twelve ounce curls.

1020
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, DD's body because it shows that he played with

1021
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: his writing experience. DD was not a guy that was

1022
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: gonna go out there and muscle someone. He played with instincts.

1023
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: So and I must admit I did not enjoy coming

1024
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: up to the practice field and work out. I did

1025
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff on my own.

1026
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: Uh did you do it indoors?

1027
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: No?

1028
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: I was come on, I was still did swimming, basketball.

1029
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean it was micah before. I did a lot

1030
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 4: of stuff.

1031
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: I was referring to. Your weight room was outdoors.

1032
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, I didn't do weights, No, no, no, weights.

1033
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: I didn't do wights.

1034
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 5: Sand Pitt, Yeah, sanm Pitt.

1035
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: I love sant Pitt. No I did. I did work

1036
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 4: like that, that stuff that could not break you down,

1037
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: but build up your muscles, and working in the sand

1038
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 4: pit does that. I wasn't into running four hundred meters.

1039
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: How many times you can run four hundred meters and

1040
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: all that crap. To me, that is not football. You know.

1041
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: When it comes to football, you have to be able

1042
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: to play football. And I wanted to do one on

1043
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 4: one coverage. I wanted to do what I was good at.

1044
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: Tackling is one thing, but I made my living playing

1045
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: one on one. So as long as I did things,

1046
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: That's why I played tennis, That's why I played basketball

1047
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: because those helped me with my man to man technique.

1048
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you have to run the Landry Mile?

1049
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was a mount and a half, by the way,

1050
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 4: mile and a half. Yes, Dry mile is a mount

1051
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: and a half.

1052
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: How many game?

1053
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: I just hated it, dude, just at that time. Now,

1054
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: I'm a half manthon I guy.

1055
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 3: But I hate the best in Everson Walls. In his

1056
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: career sixteen games in eighty one strike shortened season eighty

1057
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: two nine games. He's a regular season game sixteen games

1058
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: in eighty three, sixteen and eighty four sixteen and eighty

1059
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: five sixteen and eighty six strike shortened season in eighty

1060
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: seven twelve games, eighty eight sixteen games, eighty nine sixteen,

1061
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: ninety sixteen games, ninety one fourteen games in ninety two

1062
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: sixteen games. So how many games did you miss in

1063
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 3: your career? Two two in that nineteen and the Giants

1064
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: in ninety one season, it seemed to worry.

1065
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: Got my ReBs cracked.

1066
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: Did you do try to make a tackle?

1067
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1068
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: He already said, it's man and man coverage one on one.

1069
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: And look how many games players are missing today? You

1070
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: got a weightlifting that's it. It's the weightlifting.

1071
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: I think the argument for beginning the off season stuff

1072
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: in June, middle of June whatever, and then blending in

1073
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: the training camp is the quality of play might pick

1074
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: up because you're more ready than to take six six

1075
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 2: weeks six weeks off before training camp.

1076
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: See, now they're on their own for the next six

1077
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: weeks to try to keep what they're already started this offseason.

1078
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: And now they're different than we were. You know, they're

1079
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 4: just different.

1080
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, guys probably in better shape, don't you think, Yeah?

1081
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: Remember you you I don't know if you guys had

1082
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: this available, but all of them go to these different

1083
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: workout places, like the offensive linemen, the wide receivers.

1084
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 10: No.

1085
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: Specific thrills. Yeah, okay, we're out of time. We're passed

1086
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: out of time.

1087
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: Covered a lot of all right, and covered it well.

1088
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 4: Yes we did.

1089
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So next time we chat at y'all, it'll be Oxnard,

1090
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 3: California or beyond.

1091
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: Are you going to be done with all this hockey

1092
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: and basketball?

1093
01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 3: Hockey right now? With basketball? Hopefully in four games? Is

1094
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: gonna be done with basketball?

1095
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: And if the Rangers keep going, you won't have to

1096
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: deal with them.

1097
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: M hm.

1098
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: Number one five out of the last six. Now that's

1099
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: players are on the injured list coming back.

1100
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Speaker 4: I told you he's gonna he's gonna rap him up.

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Speaker 4: He knows exactly what he's.

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Speaker 2: Got, an entire tire, starting pitching staff.

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01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 4: He what he's doing. All right?

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Speaker 3: Does it for Mick Shines? We will chat at you

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Speaker 3: next time.

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Speaker 4: R R I pe Larry Allen and Gold Cowboys.

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