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Speaker 2: this is a question you might you might hate me

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Speaker 2: for this. Initially, it's such a tough question here. So

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Speaker 2: I just noticed that in college football, we've got a

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Speaker 2: bowl game that's gonna be renamed the Cheese It Bowl

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Speaker 2: now officially is renamed the Pop Tarts Bowl. So in

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Speaker 2: your life, in your own personal life, are you more

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Speaker 2: so team cheese It or Team pop Tarts? That's what

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Speaker 2: I need to know. Come on, I know.

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Speaker 3: I to be honest. The it's a good change. It's

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Speaker 3: a good change because when I just go back through

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Speaker 3: the the life of Rich Wrenberger and I think about

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Speaker 3: what's fueled more activity pop Tart by far five far,

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Speaker 3: I mean cheese it. Cheese it, man, cheese its are great.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'll never turn down to cheese it.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 3: You want to give me a hot and spicy cheese it,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the one with the tabasco. I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 3: what an invention. But pop tarts. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 3: the s'mores pop tart. If we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: like top ten foods all time, the Smores pop tart

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Speaker 3: might be in it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's funny we did because this came out earlier in

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Speaker 4: the week and I did another show and we ranked

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Speaker 4: pop tarts our favorites of all time, and to me,

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Speaker 4: it was s'mores one, and there was a big gap

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Speaker 4: between the rest. Now, obviously, the I think all the

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Speaker 4: berry flavored oop tarts kind of blend a little together.

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Speaker 1: Blueberry, raspberry, strawberry, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: I think strawberry is probably the most popular, right, But

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Speaker 4: here's one that I overlooked that I got a little

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Speaker 3: I guess sure, cinnamon brown sugar. Yeah, yeah, I see,

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Speaker 3: everybody does, I you know what. And it's funny because

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Speaker 3: when you look.

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Speaker 4: At it, it's just like a brown slab right, there's

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Speaker 4: no like it's not very.

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Speaker 1: Sexy looking sling character. Yeah. But and I've always overlooked it.

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Speaker 4: I judged the book by its cover, but I gave

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Speaker 4: it a chance this week and I was wrong. I'm

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Speaker 4: not ashamed to admit I was wrong. Brown Sugar deserves

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Speaker 2: You know, I will be the outcast here. I'll be

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Speaker 2: on no Island. I love pop tarts. Cherry pop tarts

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Speaker 2: are my favorite. Nice a lot more variety, I would say,

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Speaker 2: But in terms of what's my go to more often,

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Speaker 2: I'm team cheese. It more so team cheese.

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Speaker 1: It's a fault there, the sweet dilemma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I just go straight original cheese. It's

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't need to getting there behind me.

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Speaker 2: I no, no, I normally go industrial box. You know

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Speaker 2: I can't go through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Costco double pack where it's like you

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Speaker 1: You can't try to hit that one up too hard. You'll.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is funny too with the Pop

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Speaker 2: Tarts Bowl. So it's going to be in Orlando on

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Speaker 2: December twenty eighth. Instead of being a Most Valuable Player,

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Speaker 2: they're going to name the most valuable pastry. What they're

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Speaker 1: They don't pop tarts on the guy's head.

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Speaker 2: Probably ye should just go all in with that. And

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Speaker 2: we still will have the Cheese It Bowl. It's still

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Speaker 2: in Orlando. It's just on New Year's Day. So we've

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Speaker 2: got both. We've got the newly named pop Tarts Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and we still have the cheese Itt Bawl. So as

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Speaker 2: both worlds right there tell you what they are.

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Speaker 3: While ball season is still really a thing, right like before,

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Speaker 2: We're going to see an explosion. I have a feeling.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we like we may end up with

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Speaker 4: Asking like, you know, teams from other other subdivisions to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it might. Yeah, it might be like Grand

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Speaker 1: On you know, Arnett word, Yeah, we might.

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Speaker 1: In the away for college football season. Guys, it'll be here.

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Speaker 2: We're not that far away. We're inch and closer. We'll

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Speaker 2: have some more college football in the show today. Nice

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Speaker 2: as you've got the SEC, they're still debating do we

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets won Game one. They led by as many

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Speaker 2: as twenty four they held on for an eleven point win.

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Speaker 2: Jokic had a triple double. Shocker, he was actually at

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Speaker 2: would average a triple double for this entire set. That's insane,

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Speaker 2: He ended up with twenty seven points. Highly efficient. How

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Speaker 2: do you slow this guy down? The question becomes would

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Speaker 2: That's the dilemma for the Miami Heat, and I would

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Speaker 2: makes the most that I'm not trying to Eric Spolstra here,

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Speaker 3: Anybody watched that game Thursday night, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I mean this drives me nuts. I know why they

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Speaker 3: They want local you know, television sports talk shows and

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Speaker 3: radio shows to be talking MBA.

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Speaker 2: So they schedule it so you wake up.

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Speaker 3: Friday morning, first thing you're talking about his NBA Finals,

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Speaker 3: and then Sunday night's game. You wake up Monday morning,

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Speaker 3: first thing you're talking about. But it's just it's not

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Speaker 3: good for the viewer. I digress. The joker is a problem.

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Speaker 2: He really is. There's really no.

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Speaker 3: Stopping and he's gonna get his You just mentioned the

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Speaker 3: SAT he's averaging a triple double. That means he hasn't

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Speaker 3: it's Phil Jackson, it's Steve Kurtz, Greg Popovich, or you know,

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Speaker 3: it's Bill Russell when he was a player coach. There's

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Speaker 3: no coach who can figure out how to stop this

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Speaker 2: He was awful at it.

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Speaker 3: You know, the one weakness in his game is if

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Speaker 2: That's the best you could do.

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Speaker 4: So I think this is a very This is an

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Speaker 4: I think this is the most interesting part of the series, frankly,

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Speaker 4: in terms of how he makes adjustments in game adjustments,

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Speaker 4: with here because it looked like Denver. First of all,

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Speaker 4: Denver did not have a good shooting game. They're one

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Speaker 4: not have a good shooting game in Game one. That

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Speaker 4: shouldn't surprise you. They had nine days off and you

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Speaker 4: would imagine there be some rust. They missed a ton

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Speaker 4: I would say the jitters right the game one. Jitters,

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Speaker 4: especially early in the game first half, went way under.

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Speaker 4: But I think the most impactful part of this series

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Speaker 4: it was the Ruy Hatchimorra adjustment, right, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: they put Hachima on Jokic, And let's be honest, those

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Speaker 4: games were close. Game two was close, Game one got

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Speaker 4: there is an opportunity for Miami to keep this series closed.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a sweep.

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Speaker 4: I could see it being in five games, but I

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Speaker 4: could see Eric Spolster making the adjustment if.

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Speaker 1: I was Eric. I'm not an NBA coach.

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Speaker 4: I don't have that kind of pedigree, but I would say, Okay, Joker,

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Speaker 4: go ahead and score fifty, but you're not going to

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Speaker 4: get the rest of your team involved by dishing fourteen assists,

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Speaker 4: because that gets everyone else in flow. I would prefer

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Speaker 4: and in fact, the game that Minnesota beat Denver earlier

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, one of their only losses in the postseason,

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Speaker 4: Jokic had forty three. One of their only losses in

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Speaker 4: the Phoenix series fifty three. So I think that's he

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Speaker 4: also a twelve assist in that game. But I think

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Speaker 4: that's the strategy. The game that Joker at forty three

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Speaker 1: So to me, that's how I would approach it if

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Speaker 1: I was Exposter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I hear you. I definitely hear you. Where

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Speaker 2: it's what is Shack always says the others, meaning the

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Speaker 2: role players. Yeah, it's like Becauz Jokicic can still get

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Speaker 2: his He was eight for twelve. He only took twelve shots,

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Speaker 2: but still had twenty seven points. So he's still look

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Speaker 2: scoring threat and a scorer in Game one, and then

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Speaker 2: he had all the fourteen assists and everybody's just getting

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Speaker 2: in a rhythm. I think I agree with you though,

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Speaker 2: Jared where I think that Denver's gonna win this series.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be a tougher test than

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Speaker 2: the general reaction after Game one because you mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet against them. However, I think Miami's better

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Speaker 2: I hope they get aggressive.

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Speaker 3: Because that'll make for a much more interesting series. If

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of upside, I think with both teams,

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Speaker 4: Now, especially after they move the number down five points.

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Speaker 3: There's an argument for it, and the argument for it

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Speaker 4: with facing your division opponents twice every year.

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Speaker 1: It sets up those natural rivalries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are things I like in this, like betting analysts,

437
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: by the way, and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 1: Totally, but let's just leave it to this.

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Speaker 4: I would love it if the Jets didn't have to

440
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Speaker 4: play the Patriots twice every year, but that's from the

441
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Speaker 4: my fan perspective.

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Speaker 1: But besides that, I'm totally okay with.

443
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Speaker 2: To me, it's case by case. There are things I like,

444
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: things I dislike. If it's say some rivalries are better

445
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Speaker 2: than others, i'd rather see. I'd love to see the

446
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Eagles twice a year. I don't necessarily

447
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: have to see like the Arizona Cardinals and the LA

448
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: Rams twice a year. You know it, case by case.

449
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Speaker 2: What I dislike right now is that if you win

450
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Speaker 2: your division, you get an automatic home playoff game. I say,

451
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Speaker 2: you get into the playoffs, that's what you should get.

452
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Speaker 2: I don't think you deserve the cherry on top, the

453
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Speaker 2: whip cream and the sprinkles, all the goodness of getting

454
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Speaker 2: a home playoff game. We saw that last year. Tampa

455
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: was eight and nine and they hosted the twelve and five.

456
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Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that party. Get rid of that.

457
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Speaker 2: I don't think you have to blow up divisions. You

458
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Speaker 2: just say, hey, no home playoff game, right, you get

459
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Speaker 2: your playoff birth, but that's it.

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Speaker 4: You can just see them by record, Like you don't

461
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: need the division right for the postseason, Yeah, you just

462
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Speaker 4: need that for the regular season schedule.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but as far as you know, top to bottom,

464
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Speaker 2: let's just say sixteen teams, no divisions in each conference.

465
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Speaker 2: You could still have relatively the same structure. Like right now,

466
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Speaker 2: say you're an AFC team, you would play teams in

467
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Speaker 2: your conference that would be twelve games and then you've

468
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Speaker 2: got five games against NFC teams. You could still have that. Okay,

469
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Speaker 2: it change those twelve matchups because you still.

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Speaker 4: Have somewhat of a division there. It's just conference, not divisions.

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Speaker 4: It's not divided by four, it's divided by two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate the way the NBA has it going

474
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Speaker 3: right now in terms of I think too many teams

475
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Speaker 3: make it to the postseason. But I don't hate the

476
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Speaker 3: way that they do it in terms of divisions don't

477
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Speaker 3: really matter. Yes, kids, there are divisions in the NBA, but.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't even name the teams in each of Frankly,

479
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what they are. I think there's

480
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Speaker 4: an Atlantic in a Pacific, right, and I don't even

481
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Speaker 4: know what else.

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Speaker 2: It gets really murky. There's a metro way that's the city. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: I don't know the American Athletic I believe. Yeah, it

484
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: gets very hairy there.

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Speaker 1: But but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big skuy, it's uh, it's it's confusing, but but

487
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Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be. You could just get rid

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Speaker 3: of the divisions. It would be just as easy in

489
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Speaker 3: the NBA and it would be the same outcome. But

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that toward the end of the year,

491
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Speaker 3: like if it were single elimination, for example, in the NBA,

492
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Speaker 3: that's where I think that NFL obviously has the edge

493
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Speaker 3: over the NBA in terms of playoff urgency, then seating

494
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: would be so much more important to these teams. You

495
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be trying to sneak into the postseason. Your postseason

496
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: would start a month and a half early, and you

497
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: would see all of the stars playing on staying on

498
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: the court because they realized like, oh no, like we

499
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Speaker 3: really don't want to run into the Suns for example

500
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Speaker 3: if you're Lakers, or we really don't want to run

501
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Speaker 3: into the Nuggets early in this postseason if we can

502
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Speaker 3: avoid it, you know. So what you'll see is teams

503
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Speaker 3: actually play with submergency. I think you could, I think

504
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Speaker 3: you could open it up in the NFL to have

505
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Speaker 3: it mimic that playoff style, and you would actually have

506
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Speaker 3: a lot more success than the NBA, because again, when

507
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Speaker 3: you enter a single elimination playoff bracket, you're going to

508
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Speaker 3: have even more of a heightened urgency to increase your

509
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Speaker 3: seating because certain teams toward the end of the NFL

510
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: season get a little complacent where.

511
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Speaker 2: They'll rest starters and all that stuff.

512
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Speaker 3: Seating will become way more important in the NFL if

513
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Speaker 3: you have it wide open in terms of conferences and

514
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Speaker 3: it's not just hey, win our division and we get

515
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Speaker 3: in and we get to host whoever's next.

516
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Speaker 4: I'm glad we talked us out because I think now

517
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Speaker 4: I'm going towards I like conferences better, no divisions, Yes, conferences,

518
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Speaker 4: But we need to make one more tweak. If we're

519
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Speaker 4: gonna do this, every team, just like what baseball is

520
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: doing now, you have to play everybody, right, because if

521
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Speaker 4: we're gonna take away all the divisions and make it

522
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Speaker 4: by conference, you need to play every team in your conference.

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Speaker 2: We'll think about there has to be a tiebreaker there

524
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Speaker 2: if there are seventeen games, right, which there are right now. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: so let's just take your Jets. So you're saying, Jared,

526
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Speaker 2: the Jets play fifteen games against all of the other

527
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Speaker 2: AFC teams. You kind of have to, right, and those

528
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Speaker 2: remaining two you play against the NFC against the other conference.

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Speaker 1: And now I think that's where the issue is.

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Speaker 4: Unlike baseball basketball, there's not enough games to go around, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's an interesting tweak right there. I wouldn't

532
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Speaker 2: be completely against it. I really wouldn't. I think we're

533
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Speaker 2: really going off the team. Yeah, yeah, off the rails.

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Speaker 2: We hand the button over now to Nick Off, the

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Speaker 2: Rails coach. I think is they just sinks up perfectly? Nick.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, buddy? What's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just because I didn't know either. Here are the

538
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Speaker 7: names of the NBA divisions. By the way, you had

539
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Speaker 7: Atlanta Pacific. Those are two of the six. You got Central, Southeast, Northwest,

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Speaker 7: and Southwest.

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Speaker 2: So very creative. So then classic, there you go.

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Speaker 7: Some NBA news yesterday, of course, the Suns are finalizing

543
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 7: a deal with former Lakers coach Frank Vogel, reportedly five years,

544
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 7: thirty one million. Some NFL news late on Friday as well,

545
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 7: Chicago Bears announced that the planned site for new stadium

546
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 7: in Arlington Heights is now at risk. It's not their

547
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 7: sole focus, citing some tax issues there. You also have

548
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Speaker 7: the city of Naperville, which is about thirty miles west

549
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 7: of downtown Chicago. They have now joined the mix and

550
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Speaker 7: are now courting the Bears as well. In baseball, Some

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Speaker 7: West Coast scores from last night, Dodgers eight to four

552
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Speaker 7: winners over the Yankees. Mookie Betts homer twice. Orioles beat

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Speaker 7: the Giants three to two. Gunner Henderson hit to go

554
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Speaker 7: ahead home run in the seventh. Cubs just passed the

555
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Speaker 7: Padres two to one. Manny Machana was back, had a

556
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Speaker 7: hand injury that had him out more than two weeks. Machano, however,

557
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 7: went just over four. Diamondbacks won their six in a

558
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Speaker 7: row of three to two win over the NLS leading

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Speaker 7: Braves at the French Open. Reigning Wimbledon champ number four

560
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 7: seat on the women's side of Lana Rebakan have pulled

561
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 7: out of Roland Garros this morning prior to her match

562
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 7: due to illness. Got Game one of the Stanley Cup

563
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Speaker 7: Final coming up tonight at eight eastern. The Golden Knights

564
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 7: and the Panthers, both franchises looking for their first championship.

565
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Speaker 7: Horse racing Churchill Downs is suspending operations and shifting its

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Speaker 7: current meet to another location as they examine safety measures

567
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Speaker 7: after twelve horses have died since late April. And then

568
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Speaker 7: one story I'll leave you guys with that's a little

569
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Speaker 7: bit off the ledger here he had the NCAA Baseball

570
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Speaker 7: tournament getting underway. Yesterday Duke Meat UNC Wilmington twelve to three.

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Speaker 7: And there's this guy MJ Metz for Duke. He hit

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Speaker 7: three home runs and he did it with a torn

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Speaker 7: acl He did it during the ACC tournament last week,

574
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Speaker 7: but he took adding practice, told the coach, hey, I

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Speaker 7: can hit. So they have them go out there as

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Speaker 7: the DH and the dude hit three home runs.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Wow, it's pretty impressive. Run the basis, well,

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Speaker 2: you can try to. All he did was strikeout in

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Speaker 2: the bass.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he struck out and he hit three home runs,

582
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Speaker 7: so he didn't have to hustle. Yeah, you either hit.

583
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Speaker 2: Home runs or just whif he.

584
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Speaker 1: Was just making it, you're not lagging out an infield single,

585
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Speaker 1: that's for sure.

586
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: It's he just a base hit right up the middle,

587
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: and he's like it's an out.

588
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Speaker 1: So you gotta be a home ruck like softball.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio you know,

594
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this week week one schedule. Over here,

595
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: we're looking at college football. So this is for ESPN

596
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: and ABC. This is not the entire schedule, but I'm

597
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Speaker 2: looking at the primetime matchups. Okay, you give me a

598
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: thumbs up for a thumbs down, Fellas. First off, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: August thirty first, Florida at Utah, thumbs up. No problem

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Speaker 2: with that matchup at all. Get a little cam rising action,

601
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Speaker 2: Utah taking on the Gators. Totally fine, no beef with that.

602
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: Now here's where it gets dicey. The next night, Friday

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Speaker 2: September first, in Atlanta Louisville against Georgia Tech. That's your

604
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Speaker 2: primetime matchup. What are we doing there? Double thumbs down, Wolf, Yeah,

605
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Speaker 2: that is a wolfer right there. And then Sunday we

606
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Speaker 2: get to LSU Florida State. That's fine, that's only good.

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Speaker 1: Especially after last year's game, right the missed extra.

608
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Speaker 2: Point, the Brian Keller thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fun game, Jordan Travis Heisman campaign.

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Speaker 2: And so now we're riding the Wi wave of momentum

611
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Speaker 2: for the fifth straight day. We get ball on Monday,

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Speaker 2: September fourth, get set for Clemson at Duke.

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Speaker 4: It's a doozy, all right. What one was basketball and

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00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: one was football would be good. They're both playing football,

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00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: then I think we're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good point. If you

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Speaker 2: think of it as football versus basketball, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would actually prefer to see their the Duke basketball

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Speaker 3: team play against the.

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Speaker 4: I can't argue with that actually, And well it's kind

621
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Speaker 4: of funny because you don't really I don't really have

622
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Speaker 4: the frame of reference for a lot of these quarterbacks

623
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Speaker 4: because there's so so many new starters.

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Speaker 1: But Club Nick is gonna be an interesting one. Oh,

625
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting one this.

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Speaker 2: Year, big time. Absolutely will be interesting. We'll see if

627
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Speaker 2: Clemson can rebound from a down year for them. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just look, man, the NFL gets it right. I

629
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Speaker 2: don't know why college football insists on doing it their

630
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Speaker 2: own way. I mean, you can do things your own

631
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Speaker 2: way as long as it makes sense. But the NFL,

632
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Speaker 2: their primetime matchups week one are big matchups. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you got to check this out and we'll get Louisville,

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech Clemson.

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Speaker 4: To be fair, it is week zero, right, so it's

636
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Speaker 4: almost like it doesn't even exist.

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Speaker 2: I think this is actually week one. I think week

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Speaker 2: zero would be before.

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Speaker 4: I know we have a triple header on the Labor

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Speaker 4: Day Sunday, which I like. It used to be just

641
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Speaker 4: the one game. Last year it was just the LSU

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Speaker 4: Florida State game. I know we have a triple header

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Speaker 4: this year now. Granted the early game I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: it now is Northwestern and Rutgers, which again is not

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Speaker 4: exactly going to Uh.

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Speaker 2: He's a little to be desired.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't want that in basketball either, right.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what was it last year? Was Northwestern?

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Speaker 2: Did they play Nebraska overseas somewhere?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: It was an Ilan?

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Speaker 1: Was Ireland?

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Speaker 4: And didn't they leave They wanted the leaf Scott Frost

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Speaker 4: because they yeah that's lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's still in Ireland, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Out again.

657
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Speaker 2: Football is like they just will watch anything, right, and

658
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: we're desperate at this point. That's what their schedule indicates,

659
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: is like we don't have to make it sexy or anything.

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Speaker 2: They'll watch anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what's beautiful about college football is it's

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Speaker 3: true and because it's so punitive, like if if one

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Speaker 3: of these lesser programs can sneak up. You know, a

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Speaker 3: Duke against a Clemson for example.

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Speaker 2: You know we're clowning on it.

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00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: But if that's a nailbier for Clemson, Like if that one,

668
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: you know, if you got if you got Duke taking

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Speaker 3: it to Clemson in the first half, all of a

670
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: sudden people are turning that game on at halftime or

671
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Speaker 3: in the second half, and you're gonna get some action

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00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: on that game because people are gonna be like, what

673
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: is going on here? That can ruin? That could be

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Speaker 3: a season runer. So that is the beauty of college

675
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: football is you know, if you're an NFL team and

676
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: you lose your opening game, okay, I mean that's it's bad.

677
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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to lose if you can, but it's

679
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Speaker 3: not nearly as punitive as it is in college football,

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Speaker 3: where you're literally looking for perfection. Sometimes too, you know,

681
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Speaker 3: you could be the one seed or just be in

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Speaker 3: the top four, a.

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Speaker 1: Two touchdown favorite.

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Speaker 4: There rich a little early underdog action for you on

685
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: the dookies at home?

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Just what are you doing the primetime matchups and the

687
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: favorite is favored by two touchdowns on the road, the

688
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: bad game on the road.

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Speaker 4: It's just a night game on the road, primetime, and

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00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: they're they're laying twelve and a half.

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Speaker 1: This com twelve and a half Club Nicks first start.

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Speaker 1: That might be Ormburger's first pick of the year when

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Speaker 1: we get to the season.

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Speaker 2: We got.

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Speaker 1: Special Oh baby, Monday night.

696
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Speaker 2: Let's go spruce up these primetime matchups college football. Good lord,

697
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: let's get it together. We got Rich Ornberger, Penn State

698
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: All American. He s bruced up college football when he

699
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: was playing. We've got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. He'll

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Speaker 2: spruce up your bets if you want to.

701
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Speaker 4: Watching bruce up college football during his days from the

702
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Speaker 4: stands at Beaver Stadium.

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Speaker 2: And did they have white outs back then?

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Speaker 4: That was the first white out, right, Rich, Yeah, first

705
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: first white out.

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Speaker 1: Both of us were in attendance for let's go.

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Speaker 2: A big deal. Did you did you have the white

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Speaker 2: out T shirt underneath?

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Speaker 1: I was going that was Penn State Ohio State game day?

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Speaker 4: Was there?

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Speaker 1: That means Rich, I know you remember that game, but

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Speaker 1: that man, that.

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Speaker 4: Game is is burned into my memory forever.

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Speaker 2: Okay, coming up next this announcement. It was understandable, yet's

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Speaker 2: still very very odd. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in. It is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. We're

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Speaker 2: coming to you live from the tire Rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: You know, so this is not a great indication for

720
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: John Morant, star point guard for the Memphis Grizzlies. He

721
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: had a second gun fitting on social media. And so

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Speaker 2: this is NBA Commissioner Adam Silver with a message about

723
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Speaker 2: when the suspension might be announced. Check this out.

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Speaker 8: We've uncovered a fair amount of additional information. I think

725
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Speaker 8: since I was still asked about the situation, I would

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Speaker 8: say we probably could have brought it to a head now,

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Speaker 8: but we made the decision, and I believe the Players

728
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 8: Association agrees with us that it would be unfair to

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Speaker 8: these players and these teams in the middle of the

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Speaker 8: series to announce the results of that investigation.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, okay, all right, so they're not going to

732
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Speaker 2: announce it right now, but they will after the series

733
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Speaker 2: between the Nuggets and the Miami Heat and the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: And I certainly understand that this was just an odd

735
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: announcement by the commission where I feel like you ever

736
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: see a dog that's just sitting there and he's got

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Speaker 2: like a treat on the end of his nose, and

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Speaker 2: you know, the is like not yet, not yet, fidoh,

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00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: not yet, and the dog just looking cross eyed at

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Speaker 2: this tree like I want to have the treat right now,

741
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Speaker 2: Like I feel like that's where we are, where he's

742
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: just sort of like a radio teas like we've uncovered

743
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: a fair amount of additional information. We're like like, what

744
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: what did you uncover? How bad is it? What's the

745
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: length of the suspension? And so it's just a weird announcement.

746
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: The way he went about it, sort of like I

747
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: don't know, like wetting our appetite for what's going to

748
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 2: be uncovered and what's the suspension we have to wait

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Speaker 2: till the end of the finals. It was just a

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00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: weird announcement. It would have been better just to say, hey,

751
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: we're dotting our eyes, crossing our te's we'll announce what

752
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: our findings are soon, yeah, and just leave it open ended.

753
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: But the way he did it, there's still a ton

754
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: of focus on John Moran instead of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: But it's impossible, right though, And when you think about it,

756
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: like like compare this to I don't know the NFL

757
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: where it's not necessarily Patrick Mahone getting into trouble, but

758
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: imagine it was Justin Herbert or Josh Allen or Joe

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Burrow who you know, had some sort of situation like

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: this pop up.

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00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna be really, really.

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Speaker 3: Careful with how they handle what they do next with

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Speaker 3: John Moran, because he's one of the emerging stars of

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Speaker 3: this league. He is easily top ten in terms of

765
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, interest quotient, like people people are interested in

766
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: this guy for not just for you know, the talking

767
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: points that have rolled out since all of these bizarre

768
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Instagram posts that have gotten him in trouble. He's a

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00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: fantastic player, So I look at it from this standpoint,

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00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: they should take their time with this. I agree the

771
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: messaging was a little sloppy, but it doesn't surprise me

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Speaker 3: that that this is gonna take its time and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna ull this for a while.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if we're gonna get back.

775
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: To this, but I actually have an idea on how,

776
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, they should go about the suspension or handling

777
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Speaker 3: his punishment, but we could say that for another time.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, it was a little bit of

779
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: a clunky statement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay with them waiting, Like, let's not pull

781
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: an a rod here in the middle of the World

782
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: Series and a master two hundred and fifty million dollars contract.

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00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: But also, don't come out in the middle of the

784
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: series and say, well, we've got all this new.

785
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Information, but we're gonna make you wait, what are you doing?

786
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Speaker 4: Like, just say nothing or no comment will address it

787
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Speaker 4: after the finals.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

789
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: Yes, no comment will address it after the finals. Let's

790
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: focus on the games.

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00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: Because this wasn't top of mind. John Moreri's second gun

792
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: video was on May fourteenth.

793
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: It was a month ago.

794
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: Basically, we didn't have this top of mind of Hey,

795
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: the suspension should be any day now. Once again, I.

796
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: Would imagine Adam Silver if he could do that again,

797
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: probably would say he would change his right right there.

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00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just what's your idea? We got a minute left.

799
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Speaker 2: What's your idea here? Rich?

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Speaker 3: I think this guy, I mean, assuming parents would be willing,

801
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: should go on a world tour of talking to kids

802
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: about gun safety and about keeping uns out of the

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Speaker 3: hands of people who inappropriately practice gun in school.

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Speaker 2: Yoursage, I love you know, maybe social media training.

805
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Speaker 3: I mean, but like I think, I think this guy,

806
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: I think this guy needs to see the faces of

807
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Speaker 3: the people who would be most affected by these social

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Speaker 3: media loves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally on board.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because then you understand your responsibility. Then you

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Speaker 3: realize like, oh my gosh, it's these kids, that's the reason.

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Speaker 2: Sure. All right, coming up next, this headline makes zero sense.

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Speaker 2: We will dive into that right around the corner. Hang

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Speaker 2: with us. Oh, what's going on, every buddy. It's a

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Speaker 2: big name and he's just hanging out in the free

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Speaker 2: So DeAndre Hopkins free Agent wide receiver was released by

822
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Can go anywhere right now, And it's

823
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: really interesting if you're paying attention to really is trying

824
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: to drum up a bigger market, is my read on it.

825
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: So there was a story earlier this week from the

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Speaker 2: Houston Chronicles. Brooks Cabina. He tweeted this out. DeAndre Hopkins

827
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: is interested in rejoining the Texans, per source. Hopkins was

828
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Speaker 2: officially released by the Cardinals Tuesday. It's a new regime,

829
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: an emerging team that needs a wide receiver. No chance,

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00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: no how does DeAndre Hopkins rejoin the Texans. No chance,

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Speaker 2: no chance, no way. He said he wants to play

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Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl contender, and he wants to play

833
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Speaker 2: for a veteran, proven quarterback. The Texans have none of

834
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Speaker 2: those things.

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Speaker 3: Also, also, if you think about it, I mean stable

836
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Speaker 3: front office. If they got it wrong with Stroud and

837
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: Ryans that there's gonna be new stability in Houston. So

838
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: it's uh, that would be a very hairy pick for

839
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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins. I see it very likely that this goes

840
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: the way of a lot of aging veterans. He's probably

841
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: going to take a contract restructure. He's gonna go somewhere

842
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: that doesn't necessarily have the cap room. But if they

843
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: get rid of like the third string safety, who's gonna

844
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: help them on special teams and they'll be a little

845
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: bit light in the defensive secondary to start the season

846
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Speaker 3: or start training camp, They're gonna be fine with that.

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Speaker 3: To save themselves some some salary room, and then they're

848
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: gonna restructure DeAndre Hopkins deal to make sense for their capologists,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, they're gonna move on. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a Buffalo, or it's gonna be a Kansas City, or

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00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna be you know, I know the New York

852
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: Jets said that they're not necessarily interested in him, but

853
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a team that's emerging with

854
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 3: the culture and could use a little help that wide receiver,

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00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: or a team that's fortified with the culture with a

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Speaker 3: very talented quarterback.

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: I'll throw a team out there that maybe doesn't have

858
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: a very talented quarterback. But the first part you said,

859
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: rich makes sense. How about the New England Patriots And

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Speaker 4: I hate to see this happen, but talk about a

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00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: team that could use a guy like Hopkins more than

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00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: any of those other teams you just mentioned. Yeah, any

863
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: thoughts on your Pats perhaps swooping in.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense for the Patriots. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: if it makes sense for DeAndre Hopkins. Again, if this

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Speaker 3: was a trade situation, I'm sure Hopkins, you could squint

867
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: and make sense of it and be like a you

868
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: know is this one I want to block? And he

869
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: talks to his agent. Well, listen, the phones have gone

870
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 3: a little cold. And mac Jones isn't all that bad.

871
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: I mean you saw him his rookie year. Yeah, you're right, yeah,

872
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: but what are they doing at offensive coordinator?

873
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: Well, Billy os have one?

874
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Now last year it was uh and.

875
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: He knows Billy o'brock have one. Yeah, and Billy oh

876
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: coached him in Houston's.

877
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: That's a good dat's yeah, a very interesting point.

878
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: And traded him for David Johnson. Good point.

879
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: Also point, and with the cold water and so let's

880
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: just go ahead and put the new England box back

881
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: on the show.

882
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

883
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: It was fun while it lastly, we played with it

884
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: for about thirty seconds and then we got bored.

885
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: That's the thing is so. And earlier this week, DeAndre

886
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: Hopkins he tweeted out some interesting emojis you know where again.

887
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to drum up a market, like

888
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: trying to drum up interest, because there was the it's

889
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: like the cute little oh oh see no evil speak

890
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: no evil? Yeah, kind of like the little animal has

891
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: like his hands over his eyes and like over his

892
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: ears and his mouth like I've got a secret over here.

893
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: And now we get this where DeAndre Hopkins there to

894
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: report that he's open to all teams. He's not looking

895
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: for a specific quarterback. He just set July training camp

896
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: as the hard deadline for a deal. And this to

897
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: me reeks of he's just trying to drum drum up

898
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 2: a market, which is fine. There's nothing bad going on here.

899
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: He's trying to get in the best spot. He's trying

900
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: to get as much money as possible. He's trying to

901
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: have as many teams in the mix to hopefully drive

902
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: up the price tag, and he's hopefully landing on a

903
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contending team with the proven quarterback. He wants

904
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: it all right there. But I think what's happening here

905
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: is he's realizing this is like becoming single again and like, hey,

906
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: let me download bumble. I'm gonna have to fight off

907
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: all the ladies over here, and then all of a sudden,

908
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: like no matches, no matches.

909
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: No matches like Vegas.

910
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well, I can't speak to that, Jared. I'm

911
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: sure dead over there.

912
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I feel your pain, DeAndre, I feel your pain, my.

913
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 4: DeAndre, and I on the scene line come week one.

914
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: I just think that teams are not falling over themselves

915
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: to sign a guy who's gonna turn thirty one on Tuesday,

916
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: who's been banged up, who had a ped suspension last year. Like,

917
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I still think DeAndre Hopkins can contribute,

918
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: but it depends what his asking price is. He was

919
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: set to make over nineteen million dollars this year and

920
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: that wasn't guaranteed, so that goes bye bye. So I

921
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: don't know how much of a haircut he's willing to

922
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: take financially to sign with a team. Yeah, he better be.

923
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: He better be interested in a haircut though, otherwise he's

924
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: not going to be playing a ton of football because

925
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: that's what it's gonna take. Look, there's a big old

926
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: heap in slice of humble pie that you got to eat.

927
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: When teams all of a sudden think of you as

928
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: on the wrong side of name the age, in this case, thirty,

929
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: he's on the wrong side of it. He looks like

930
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: he's on the wrong side of thirty. You know, the

931
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: injury season, the desperation that occurs after the injury season

932
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 3: looking to make some money. So maybe maybe performance enhancing

933
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: drugs wasn't a part of the routine in the past,

934
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it was because he's looking

935
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: to ring the sponge for just a.

936
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Little bit more life. Whatever it is, it's not good,

937
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: but it can be great.

938
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: Look again, the comp I used last weekend when we

939
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: talked about this, and I thought he might even be

940
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: signed by now was Christian McCaffrey. Like Christian McCaffrey, no

941
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: PD suspension. But he had spent a lot of his

942
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: time in Carolina hurt barely saw the field. I shouldn't

943
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: say barely, but almost half the time he was on

944
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: the training room carpet instead of on the grass for

945
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. And then all of a sudden San

946
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Francisco scoops him up. And again it's a trade situation,

947
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: and they're paying that contract, but using him in an

948
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: offense where he's surrounded by other talent. You're finding a

949
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: way to preserve him health wise and also maximize his talents.

950
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins, if he's smart, he's gonna look at this

951
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: situation practically and say, if there is interest from a

952
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: team with a stable culture, a real chance to win

953
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl.

954
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: You look at his numbers.

955
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: If he puts a Super Bowl season under his belt,

956
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: and he has any sort of resurgence where say he

957
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: has another over one thousand yard season in year eleven,

958
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to start talking Hall of Fame for

959
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins. The performance enhancing drugs suspension will keep him

960
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: out of the Hall of Fame. But I'm just saying

961
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna be in that conversation with some of the

962
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: greats of the game.

963
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind him going back to the Texans. I

964
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: think that'd be a really oh gosh.

965
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's going to happen, yeah, but if

966
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: it does happen, I would be on board with that, because, again,

967
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: what is the one thing they don't have on their

968
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: team currently. It's a receiver that can groom a young

969
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: up and coming quarterback and a very young offense. So

970
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying DeAndre Hopkins is this you know, quarterback

971
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: whisper or anything. But I think if you asked me

972
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: the best landing spot for him personally, obviously the Bills.

973
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: Of the Chiefs would be the two options. Right.

974
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: I just don't know if those teams have the cap

975
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: space to meet the demands right, Like, those teams are

976
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: pretty stretched right now, and I don't know if it

977
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: works financially. Again, I'm not a capologist, but that to

978
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: me was always the hang up with those teams, Whereas

979
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: the Texans I know, have money and they.

980
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Clearly there's some spark there.

981
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: Because I'm reading about it in Houston Chronicle on Sports Illustrated,

982
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: So there's a little bit of smoke there. I'm not

983
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: saying it's gonna happen. I think the Cleveland thing is

984
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: interesting too. Reunion with Watson, right, I could see that, Yeah,

985
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: that makes sense too, But I don't think it's as

986
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 4: easy as oh, let's just put him on the best

987
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: team with the best quarterback Buffalo Kansas City and call

988
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: it a day. I think there's a little more nuanced

989
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: there because of the financial situation.

990
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: We've got to get creative here.

991
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: I think Cleveland and Houston to me make the most

992
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: sense in terms of the fit and the need and

993
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: the the money situation.

994
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: Right well, I look at it where if you look

995
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: at the cap space, the the Bills don't even have

996
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: one point five for getting available. The Chiefs don't even

997
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: have The Chiefs don't even have a million. They're under

998
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: a million left in cap space, so that you're talking

999
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: about not just a little trim haircut for DeAndre, You're

1000
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: talking about shaving him bald to go. Yeah, that's that's

1001
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 2: a that's a different realm of a haircut right there.

1002
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: I just think the Texans, this is like what we

1003
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: talked about with the Patriots on steroids, is it would

1004
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: be better for the Texans than it would be DeAndre Hopkins.

1005
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: But if but money cures a lot of things, Brian,

1006
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: if here's a bag, all right, maybe I can deal

1007
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: with c JS draft for a season.

1008
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: Right.

1009
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1010
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: I wonder just financially, how big of a difference it

1011
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: would be. Yeah, I don't know that of Texans, And

1012
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: there are some teams that have more cap space, Like

1013
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: what about the Cowboys?

1014
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: With the cowboys'd be interesting.

1015
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Throw a bag at him, that would be interesting.

1016
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: That would the other team in Texas.

1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: If you're looking at the Cowboys roster currently, I mean

1018
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: that is a top five roster in the NFL. I

1019
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: know a lot of people are gonna say, hey, you know,

1020
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: we say this every offseason about the Dallas Cowboys, and

1021
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: they always are underwhelming once the season begins. But They've

1022
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: got a lot of talent around that roster already. If

1023
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 3: they added DeAndre Hopkins as sort of almost like.

1024
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: A and oh, by the way.

1025
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: The same field as Cooks and Ceedee Lamb. I mean,

1026
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: holy smokes, Dak Prescott, he will officially be out of excuses.

1027
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: He will need to win a Super Bowl. I mean,

1028
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: it would be insane. I think that the Cowboys, even

1029
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: the Lions, also the Jets have a lot of cap room.

1030
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: Your Jets, Jared, like, this might be a year. It

1031
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: could be an Odell Beckham junior type contract here where

1032
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: it's a one year deal and he's gonna try to

1033
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: get as much money as possible. But if it's one

1034
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: year with the Cowboys or Jets, I'd take that all day.

1035
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Compared to going back to the Texans.

1036
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: I agree.

1037
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: I listen, I'm not saying the Texans are this you

1038
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: know juggernaut that's waiting, and you know Hopkins is the

1039
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: final piece.

1040
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: I just think in the NFL it's not as simple.

1041
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: Like in baseball or in even other sports like in

1042
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 4: the NBA, where you can kind of tweak the cap

1043
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 4: a little bit more. The NFL is the most stringent

1044
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 4: cap of any sport. And it's really tough to work

1045
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: around it. And I think that's where a lot of

1046
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: these teams. I think the timing of everything worked out

1047
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: against DeAndre too, right, some of its market timing. If this,

1048
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: if all this goes down last year, maybe Kansas City.

1049
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Does have some room for him.

1050
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: But it's happening in a season where the two teams

1051
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 4: that are making the most sense for who DeAndre wants.

1052
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 9: To go to are literally in the in salary cap

1053
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 9: hill as they say, yeah, this is after the draft.

1054
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 9: You know this is really after free agency. And yeah,

1055
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 9: if this.

1056
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: Is earlier in the year, if this is we're talking

1057
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: about this in March, before the draft, it's a whole

1058
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: different market for DeAndre Hopkins.

1059
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I mean the reason why this

1060
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: happened to a certain extent, if it was gonna happen

1061
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: at all, because remember how he became a free agent.

1062
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: We were all scratching our heads like how did the Cardinals.

1063
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: Even so stupid it?

1064
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: I mean, like, because there is trade value there if

1065
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: you could get him to hold on. But it almost

1066
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 3: feels like if if behind the scenes, which who knows

1067
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 3: what happened, but behind the scenes, DeAndre Hopkins was giving

1068
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 3: them a hard time or whatever the circumstances were where

1069
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 3: they're like.

1070
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: All right, if I'm will just cut them.

1071
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: I mean doing that at this time really sets him

1072
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 3: up for a long wait. And so it may have

1073
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: been one of those things where like, if you're going

1074
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: to force our hand, we're gonna make it as hard

1075
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: for you as humanly possible to get signs. So there

1076
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: could have been a little bit of you know, yeah,

1077
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: look we're we're slamming the door shut, but we're hoping

1078
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: it hits you on the way out.

1079
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's I don't know what the

1080
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: inner workings were, but I look at it where Arizona

1081
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: is clearly in Tank Modec. That's what it sends to

1082
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: the message it sends to me. I don't know if

1083
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: there was any animosity between the organization and DeAndre, but

1084
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: I think that you're looking out for number one. I

1085
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: think the Cardinals are absolutely looking at pots though Ryan

1086
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: I would say there's both there with what DeAndre.

1087
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: I would say animosity and Tank.

1088
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like it was like a perfect storm of

1089
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: everything was going south, and Arizona was like, you know what,

1090
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: screw it, cut bait, see you later.

1091
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: We're moving on.

1092
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible. I just look at it where they

1093
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: tried to trade DeAndre, they tried to work it out,

1094
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: they didn't have any takers, and it be came like, well,

1095
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do. We're gonna run it back

1096
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: and DeAndre can still play.

1097
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: We might that's your leading indicator, Brian.

1098
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 4: I think I think the leading indicator in this is

1099
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: the fact that they definitely tried to trade him and couldn't.

1100
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: So his value in his mind and maybe to us

1101
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: because of the name value is less than what his

1102
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: actual real value is on the street with these NFL teams, well,

1103
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: no doubt act.

1104
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: And that happens because I've been in conversations with you know,

1105
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: front office guys, personnel guys, and I say, hey, you know,

1106
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: I am such and such is on the market. I

1107
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: remember when I was still playing, and be like, yeah,

1108
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 3: you haven't.

1109
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: Been on the phone with his agent. They're delusional, you

1110
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1111
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: Like sometimes that happens where you know you're thinking as

1112
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 3: a player or as a fan of a team, like.

1113
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why are we going after DeAndre Hopkins.

1114
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: We got a little bit of cap space. We can

1115
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: make this work.

1116
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 3: We just got to restructure his contract and he should

1117
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: be amiable to that because he's getting.

1118
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: Older, he's pa decent speench and blah blah blah.

1119
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: And the meanwhile, the agent gets on the phone like, nope,

1120
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: we want his full con t call us back when

1121
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 3: you can offer that, and everybody else in the office

1122
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: is like.

1123
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: Ah, no, thanks, goodbye. You know, so that may be it.

1124
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: It may be as simple as he needs to reassess

1125
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: what his value to the rest of the league is

1126
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: before we have a real answer on where he's gonna land.

1127
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that could be it too, if you know,

1128
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: if if DeAndre wanted whatever he wanted, uh, and the

1129
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: Cardinals they're trying to work out a trade. DeAndre wanted

1130
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. The Cardinals like, okay, we'll try

1131
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: to get some value and work out a deal. And

1132
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: they had no takers, right, and it's like, well, what

1133
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 2: are you gonna do at that point? You can either

1134
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: run it back with DeAndre and maybe win some games

1135
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: you're not trying to win this year. You could be

1136
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: as high in the draft. So they cut bait and

1137
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: now I think they're looking and saying see seeing is

1138
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: what we were saying we couldn't work out a deal,

1139
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: and now you're seeing it's not as easy to come

1140
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: up with something.

1141
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the largest tracks the worst, Hopkins, the situation gets Yeah.

1142
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, We've got rich Ordan, Penn State All American,

1143
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: Jared Smith, Horizon and Mountain West betting experts college True.

1144
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: He just got me in the mood.

1145
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: What do you what do you hone in on? In football?

1146
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: Is it the the AAC? Do you hone in on

1147
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: the act over there?

1148
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 4: I think in college football because of the way the

1149
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: markets are, there's like there's not as much mid major vibe, right,

1150
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: Like I think the Power five just rules everything. I'd

1151
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: like in college basketball where, let's be honest, FAU and

1152
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 4: San Diego State.

1153
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: We're in the final four this year, so mid major

1154
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: city baby.

1155
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah different brought note. Coming up next, football predictions blended

1156
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: with golf, we'll explain. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 2: I fell so I was looking at There was a

1164
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: piece by Bill Barnwell Rights for ESPN, and he was

1165
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: talking about the best and worst NFL off seasons, and

1166
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: I scrolled down to the ten the Titans. He had

1167
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: them ranked thirty second. He had them with the worst

1168
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: off season of all the NFL teams. They shed a

1169
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: lot of salary, right, they let a bunch of dudes

1170
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: go shuffling things around with the front office, new OC

1171
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. So he had them with the

1172
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: worst offseason. But there was a line in there that

1173
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: caught my attention where he just wrote Will Levis could

1174
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: start at quarterback for Tennessee in twenty twenty four and

1175
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: that just stuck with me. So I thoughtould be fun

1176
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: today if we look at the top four quarterbacks of

1177
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: the draft back in April, and we're predicting how many

1178
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: starts each of these guys will have in this twenty

1179
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: twenty three season. Let's start with the guy at the top,

1180
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I'm keeping track over here. It's kind of

1181
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: like golf. Think about it, where you want to have

1182
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: his few strokes to get the ball into the hole, right, Like,

1183
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: you're trying to be as close to the actual number

1184
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: of starts, whether you're higher or lower whatever. If you're

1185
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: too off, then you get minus two right there, or

1186
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: plus two. I should say, so Rich, we'll start with you,

1187
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Carolina Panthers quarterback. How many starts do you

1188
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: see from him in his rookie season?

1189
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see him start every single game.

1190
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: And the reason is because Frank Reich, He's worked with

1191
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: so many different starting quarterbacks over his time as a

1192
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: head coach and an offensive coordinator. I think he's gotten

1193
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: really used to bringing the playbook down to a level

1194
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: where it's attainable for any level of play, whether it

1195
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: be a brand new rookie quarterback cutting his teeth in

1196
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: the NFL or a veteran who's walking through the door

1197
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: with maybe an accumulated knowledge in different places obviously not

1198
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: necessarily playing for Frank Reich where he can find a

1199
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: level to communicate with him. So yeah, I'm gonna say

1200
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, based on Frank Reich's past history, is going

1201
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: to be ready to play. As far as the Carolina

1202
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: Panthers are concerned. Game one and he'll play the whole season.

1203
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 4: I agree that he will be the projected starter for

1204
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: the whole season, but unfortunately there's this thing in the

1205
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: NFL called injuries.

1206
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I watched when I watched the film.

1207
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 4: Of him, and I know it's just OTA's and they're

1208
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 4: basically in shorts and T shirts. But man, I think

1209
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: the knock on Bryce all off season going into the

1210
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: draft was his height, his weight, his size. Do we

1211
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: think he's going to survive the whole season physically? Is

1212
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 4: the question that I have. I would say, no, Yeah,

1213
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: what number do you put it on at?

1214
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Let's go twelve?

1215
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: Twelve, That's about what I was thinking. I'm gonna go eleven. Yeah,

1216
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: I get priced. Yeah, like you think about Tua tug

1217
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: of I Looa missed five games last year, Lamar Famar

1218
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: Jackson's missed five each of the past two seasons. I'm

1219
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: gonna put it at eleven.

1220
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's go eleven and a half right over under?

1221
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, Yeah, I'll take the under by a scot right.

1222
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: I will make I will make the argument that Lamar

1223
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 3: Jackson didn't get hurt his first two seasons, and there's

1224
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: something something to be said about at Alabama, waiting your turn,

1225
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: not putting too much tread on the tire in terms

1226
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: of taking hits, and those first couple of years in

1227
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: the league, you still have that leftover. Hey, this isn't

1228
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: about self preservation, you know, because college football just bangs

1229
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: it into your head. It's about the team, the team,

1230
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: the team, the team. You're not thinking about yourself, and

1231
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: when you're a first overall pick, it's about proving yourself,

1232
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: proving yourself, proving yourself. You're not thinking about, you know, necessarily,

1233
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: what's best for your body. And when you put a

1234
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: lot of those things on the on the shelf and

1235
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: you say to yourself like, no, I'm not I'm here

1236
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: to win games. I'm here to get better. You know,

1237
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: you won't take time off the field, you won't think

1238
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: about your future in the game because you're trying to

1239
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: get great right now.

1240
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: So I think if.

1241
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 3: He can survive it, like you said, it's different from

1242
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: college football, but they protect quarterbacks a lot better at

1243
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: the NFL level than they do in college. I project

1244
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: him as finishing out the season, but again, gameplay can.

1245
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: Dictate it a lot of that too. If he's struggling,

1246
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: I mean, well, Yeah, that's the thing is I think

1247
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna take their lumps with Bryce Young throughout the

1248
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: rest of the season.

1249
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton.

1250
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the worst thing as the two man back there.

1251
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: If you have your rookie and you start in week

1252
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: one and then you hit the rough patch, you got

1253
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: to see it through kind of like it's so bad

1254
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: to be like I we're gonna sit him in week six.

1255
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: For what The schedule two is interesting Atlanta, New Orleans, Seattle, Minnesota, Detroit,

1256
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 4: Miami than an early by right, Like, no dominating defenses

1257
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: there except for maybe New Orleans, although on the road

1258
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 4: at Seattle that's a tough game for a rookie.

1259
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: Week three.

1260
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's very good defensively typically, although they've been through

1261
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: some down seasons lately.

1262
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1263
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: And New Orleans to your point, that's a top five

1264
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: defense that's.

1265
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: At home Monday night, though, right, Like, I think those

1266
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: first six games at Atlanta, tough game on the road

1267
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 4: week one for your first ever game, then Seattle, Minnesota, Detroit,

1268
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: Miami those aren't top ten defenses, and New Orleans is,

1269
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: but you get him at home in its prime time,

1270
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 4: So I think it's actually a pretty favorable schedule, and

1271
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 4: then you get the early buy to kind of catch

1272
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: your breath.

1273
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is, however the rookie season goes

1274
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: for Bryce Young, That's how most people will think the

1275
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: career is gonna go, right, Like, if he gets banged

1276
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: up his rookie season, appsie, there it is. And if

1277
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: he survives, let's just say he starts seventeen games. Yeah,

1278
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of talk of what was all

1279
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: the speculation about Bryce Young not being able to hold up?

1280
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you avoided injury. Is rookie year. It

1281
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's gonna be story going forward. Yeah, gonna

1282
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: always Yeah, we'll see. I think he looks like Muggsy

1283
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Bogues next to Lamar Jack.

1284
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: You look really like the video as I saw Aboutta

1285
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 4: is like he looked like he was on the junior

1286
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 4: varsity team.

1287
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: He got called up for the day because the other

1288
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: guy had a sick day or something.

1289
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: Let's do another one here real fast. How about c J. Stroud.

1290
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: We'll do the conveyor belt here, so you're up first here, Jared,

1291
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: what do you think about c J. Stroud?

1292
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but I know you're gonna

1293
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 4: disagree with this take. I think Stroud starts every game.

1294
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: I might.

1295
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: He might. I mean, Davis Mills is not, you know,

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01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: a superstar in the making. So I think Stroud's gonna

1297
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: start to begin the season most likely. I'll put it

1298
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: at fifteen.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: That's fair. In fifteen and a half, I'll go fifteen

1300
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: and a half.

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: I'll go over yeah, I'll go fifteen just in case.

1302
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, listen, it's still the NFL. There could be

1303
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: an injury right here, there could be a rough patch

1304
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: and he sits for a week. I don't I'll put

1305
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: it at fifteen. What do you say, Rich, I disagree.

1306
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna I mean, look, it comes down

1307
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: to his ability to catch up with the speed of

1308
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1309
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: But I mean, this isn't necessary. This isn't Lamar.

1310
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: Jackson, like Stroud, is much more of a pocket passer

1311
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: than he is a dual threat.

1312
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: I look at CJ.

1313
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: Stroud as potentially having those rookie struggles, and the Houston

1314
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: Texans have one thing going for them, it's time. I mean,

1315
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: they are not in the window. I mean they're not

1316
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 3: even close to the window. Carolina, by comparison, has an

1317
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: actual chance to win that division potentially.

1318
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if.

1319
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: Bryce Young can deliver, Carolina can sneak up on you,

1320
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: the Texans are sneaking up on nobody. The Texans are

1321
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: going to be bad for another year as they're trying

1322
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 3: to figure it out.

1323
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: And so it's kind of like, what's the rush.

1324
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: I could see Davis Mills starting the season wow and

1325
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: and yeah, and then taking their time and grooming this

1326
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: guy to make sure that he is one hundred percent

1327
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: ready when he takes the field.

1328
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the number I'm gonna put it at.

1329
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: I don't think they wait a long time, so I

1330
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 3: want to say fourteen, but I'll say third team. I'll

1331
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: say he starts thirteen games as rookie.

1332
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: Sea that under fifteen and a half.

1333
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: Oh, very interesting. The one thing too, is they don't

1334
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: have their first round pick next year because they used

1335
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: it for Will Anderson Junior this year, right, they moved

1336
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: up to that number three overall pick, so the Arizona

1337
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: Cardinals have the Texans first round pick next year. So, like,

1338
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: I think that makes it even more likely that CJ.

1339
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: Stroud starts more games. You know, if you had that

1340
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: little carrot dangling in front of you like, well, you know,

1341
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: we could get a really high pick.

1342
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: So it didn't year.

1343
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they don't have Yeah, they're gonna take

1344
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: their lumps, I think with what c J. Stroud throughout

1345
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: most of the year. Okay, we'll get to the other

1346
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks in a second. Here first though, Nick Cope

1347
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: who his girl? Did you guys know this is from

1348
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: the South Bend, Indiana area?

1349
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 7: Hold on, though they're not they're not actually not a

1350
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 7: Notre Dame family. They all went to IU. They they

1351
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 7: are full Iniana Hoosier people. The shock, I know, I'm sorry, Yeah.

1352
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: How can you grow up?

1353
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: Might do the rest of the show. I you what

1354
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: is that?

1355
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 7: It's just been I U's been in the family for generations. Man,

1356
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 7: I I understand what you're saying. Yeah, they actually are

1357
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 7: very much not fans of Notre Dame.

1358
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: So I won't go as far as to say I

1359
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: hate these people. But you know, question, no, don't go

1360
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: that far. Come on, no, I can't go that far.

1361
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: A lot of questions, A lot of questions for this

1362
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: fair enough?

1363
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1364
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 7: In the NFL, we do have some news this morning,

1365
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 7: the Miami Herald reporting that if running back Dalvin Cook

1366
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 7: of the Vikings were to be cut, the Dolphins are

1367
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 7: a very real possibility as a landing spot. Here is,

1368
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 7: of course, the South Florida Native Minnesota GM quasi Adopho Mensa.

1369
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 7: He's been noncommittal when asked if Cook is going to

1370
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 7: be on the team for the upcoming season. News in

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 7: the NBA this morning, a report from ESPN says Nicks

1372
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 7: all star for Julius Randall had surgery on his left

1373
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 7: ankle yesterday, but he is expected to be ready for

1374
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 7: training camp in the fall. Late scores from baseball last night,

1375
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 7: Dodgers eight to four over the Yankees. Clayton Kershaw allowed

1376
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 7: just two runs in seven innings. Mookie Betts homer twice.

1377
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 7: Orioles beat the Giants three to two. Manny Machado returned

1378
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 7: for the Padres, but he went just zero for four.

1379
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 7: Cubs got the win over San Diego two to one.

1380
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks won their six in a row, a three to

1381
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 7: two win over the NL's leading Braves. In hockey, guy

1382
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 7: Game one of the Stanley Cup Final between the Golden

1383
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 7: Knights and the Panthers tonight eight to eastern. Both Vegas

1384
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 7: and Florida hoping to claim their first Championship franchise history,

1385
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 7: French Open top remaining American women Coco Goff recovered after

1386
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 7: dropping the opening set.

1387
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 2: She wins her third.

1388
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 7: Round matches and is now into the round of sixteen

1389
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 7: defending women champ egas Fiantek. She is also in the

1390
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 7: final sixteen, a double bagel victory for her six zero six.

1391
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 7: So finally soccer got the FA Cup final going on.

1392
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 7: Manchester City and Manchester United tied to one to one.

1393
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 7: City scored thirteen seconds into the match, but United converted

1394
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 7: just moments ago to tie us up. City trying to

1395
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 7: complete the treble. They already have the Premier League Championship.

1396
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 7: They could get the FA Cup today and then potentially

1397
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,839
Speaker 7: win the Champions League final next Saturday against Inter Milan.

1398
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 7: Treble has not been completed since Manchester United did it

1399
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 7: back in nineteen ninety nine. Guys, back to you, Thanks Nick.

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Speaker 2: we go rapid fire style. Our predictions of how many

1406
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: starts for the top rookie quarterbacks in the NFL. We're

1407
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 2: onto Anthony Richardson, fourth overall pick with the Colts. I'm

1408
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: targeting week seven for his first start over here. I

1409
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: like that Iowa was saying, Oh yes, the NFL film,

1410
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: let's get it going here. I'm gonna go Anthony Richardson

1411
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: right around Week seven at home against the Browns. I

1412
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: don't think he starts at the very beginning of the season.

1413
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: It's a guy who hadn't thrown four hundred passes in

1414
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: college football only thirteen starts, the additional pressure of being

1415
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: a week one starter, I just don't see it. So

1416
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with eleven starts for Anthony Richardson this year.

1417
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Anthony Richardson starts seventeen games this season.

1418
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 3: And the reason why is you have an impatient owner.

1419
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: You have an owner who was willing to bench a

1420
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: veteran starting quarterback for youth during the middle of a

1421
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: I mean not a good season, but I mean a

1422
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: season that wasn't going completely sideways until he got involved.

1423
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: That's the reason why they're in this situation. In the

1424
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: person first place, picking at the top of the draft,

1425
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: and I think to prove his point, Richardson's gonna get

1426
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: early work and it may not look all that bad

1427
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: because a mobile quarterback can be the vitamin C to

1428
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: an offense.

1429
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 2: I say, he starts every game.

1430
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 4: So unlike Stroud and Young, you're not seeing Richardson's name

1431
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 4: at the top of the depth chart right now. So

1432
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 4: it looks like and again the depth chart is very

1433
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 4: loosey goosey at this stage, but all signs point to

1434
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 4: at least Gardner Minshew getting more of a chance to

1435
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 4: be the starter, I would say than those other two

1436
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 4: that we talked about. I agree with Richard's take about

1437
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 4: the ownership situation. I just don't know how much that

1438
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 4: will impact playing time in year one.

1439
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: I think it impacted the draft.

1440
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 4: I think the ownership ERSA and all those guys, they

1441
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 4: really liked Richardson and they wanted him. But I think

1442
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 4: once we get to the season, I would hope that

1443
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 4: it's Shane Steichen's decision on who starts. I don't know

1444
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 4: that answer though, and if Rich's prognostication is correct that

1445
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 4: it's Ers pulling the strings, I could see Richardson starting

1446
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 4: earlier than expected, But I don't know. I'll go like

1447
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 4: eight and a half, nine and a half on the

1448
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 4: number here, and I'll go slight over but not not significantly.

1449
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: So it's where are you going with nine or ten?

1450
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go ten, just to make it a nice

1451
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 4: round number. But I would be interested in an under too.

1452
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 1: There.

1453
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: All right, twenty four second shot clock you gas bags?

1454
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: All right, Will Levis, we'll start with you rich How

1455
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: many starts for Will Levis? Not a single game?

1456
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: What? Not? One?

1457
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: That one?

1458
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: I agree?

1459
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: I think they will Levis on the shelf.

1460
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: I agree.

1461
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

1462
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 4: I don't even need to give any analysis other than

1463
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: the fact that they have their starter that they like,

1464
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: and if they really didn't like him, I think they

1465
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: would have gotten rid of Ryan tannehill Man.

1466
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: That was like a Derek White tippin' he's heard on

1467
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: the depth chart. One second left there. We didn't even

1468
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: need twenty four second. Please fine, Stark, senators, you know

1469
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm going with five five star arts for will to

1470
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: thrill Levis, because here's the deal. He's backing up Ryan

1471
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: tannehill who's becoming a walking medicine cabinet over there, right,

1472
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: Tannehill gets banged up all the time, and and Tannehill

1473
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: might not be great as the starter and might get

1474
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: yanked for the young guns. So yeah, give me five

1475
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: starts for Will Levis. I don't think it's a goose

1476
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: egg this year.

1477
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: I'll go under on whatever number gets posted, though, Like

1478
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: if we go five and a half on the on

1479
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 4: the under, I'm on the under.

1480
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 2: I think the betting line would be.

1481
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: I think I think five and a half is a

1482
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: fair number right around like that.

1483
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta find those. I'm sure you can bet

1484
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: on him now.

1485
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: I wish those existed, Unfortunately you don't.

1486
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: So, so the numbers were setting for Bryce, what do

1487
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: we go?

1488
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: What are we going with? Fourteen and a half? Right,

1489
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: let's go fourteen and a half? Go on and a

1490
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: half for Bryce and CJ.

1491
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 4: And like five and a half, six and a half,

1492
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 4: seven and a half for the other two guys somewhere

1493
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 4: in that ring.

1494
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh, i'd pound the over on Anthony Richardson. I don't know,

1495
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: over five and a half for six and a half.

1496
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think he's sitting for double digit

1497
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: games this se that's fair.

1498
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Levis is the only guy we think

1499
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 4: is going to be uh riding the pie this year.

1500
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'll take I'll take Stroud in the under, depending

1501
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: on where the line's at. I got the over on

1502
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: Young and Richardson, and I definitely have the under on

1503
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 3: Levis wherever that number lass.

1504
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's so crazy about the NFL. It

1505
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: keeps you guessing. I would not be shocked. I wouldn't

1506
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: bet on this, but I would not be shocked if

1507
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: Will Levis starts more games than Bryce Young. All it

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,519
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Speaker 2: So the goat Tom Brady. He went on a tour

1527
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: discussing how he is retired now. He's a partial team

1528
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: owner of the Las Vegas Radas, and he thought this

1529
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: would be a good time to reiterate that he is

1530
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: walking away. This was him on Sports Center.

1531
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 10: I was very fortunate to play twenty three incredible NFL seasons,

1532
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 10: so I think there's always a time to move on

1533
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 10: to other things and other opportunities. I know how much

1534
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 10: of a grind it is. I know the level of

1535
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 10: commitment is, and it's really a year round process. So

1536
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 10: if I was going to play football this year, i'd

1537
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 10: be working entirely different than the way i'm now. Right now,

1538
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 10: I'm catching up on some other priorities which are much needed,

1539
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 10: and I'm really looking forward to not getting hit anymore

1540
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 10: and transitioning to other areas of interest. So I got

1541
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:13,879
Speaker 10: some fun things on the Horizon.

1542
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: Okay, and this was also him with Sports Illustrated. Here's

1543
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: the goat.

1544
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 10: I'm certain I'm not playing again, So I've tried to

1545
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 10: make that a clear and I hate to continue to

1546
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 10: profess that because I've already told people that lots of times.

1547
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: I really like that part. That's my favorite one. I've

1548
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 2: tried to make it perfectly clear. It's like, Tom, the

1549
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: last we heard from you, you were in Miami at

1550
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: some sort of speaking engagement and they asked you, like, hey,

1551
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna suit up for the Dolphins. And he completely

1552
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: heisman posed the retirement talk and was like, well, I

1553
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: got a lot of friends on that team. So I

1554
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: love this sound of him saying I've tried to tell

1555
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: him over and over and over again, I'm retired. It's like,

1556
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: this is the first we've really heard of that.

1557
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: Tom.

1558
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree with what you just said.

1559
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: It was not what a month ago that that happened

1560
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: in Miami. So what all of a sudden you've been.

1561
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: Trying to tell people because you've gone on this recent

1562
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 3: media campaign to convince everybody you're done.

1563
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: Look, the retirement.

1564
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 3: The reason why everybody is struggling with it, Like feeling

1565
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: like this retirement is real is because none of the

1566
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,520
Speaker 3: signs point to this retirement being real, like, for example,

1567
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: the fact that the only announcement was a forty five

1568
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 3: second video that you had recorded earlier on a beach

1569
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: in Miami somewhere. I mean, is that it That's how

1570
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: the storied career of Tom Brady ends. It seems odd,

1571
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 3: especially with how you know savvy he's become with media

1572
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: and his multiple brands and all of the announcements that

1573
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 3: he's made for merch that he's dropping or movies that

1574
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: are coming out from his production company. I mean, it

1575
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 3: just seems a little odd that that's the way he

1576
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: walks away from the game. The other side of this

1577
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 3: that seems odd to me is the fact that he

1578
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 3: is signing up to own a team that is currently

1579
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: without a starting quarterback.

1580
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, last I checked, Jimmy.

1581
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: Garoppolo is a backup in San Francisco and a guy

1582
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: who's over the course of his career, has been made

1583
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 3: of glass like cannot be trusted to man the ship

1584
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: for a full season.

1585
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1586
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: I know, he just got a contract from the Raiders,

1587
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: but he's not getting paid starting quarterback money, so it's

1588
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: very strange to me that all of a sudden, you know,

1589
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: he's got to go on this press tour.

1590
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: It almost feels.

1591
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 3: To me, guys, and maybe maybe you have a different take,

1592
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: like he's trying to get all these owners to believe

1593
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: that he's really retired, that he's really made up his

1594
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 3: mind that he's retired so he doesn't have to put

1595
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: anything in writing, you know, when he gets approval from

1596
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: the owners to own a portion of the Raiders so

1597
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: that he still has the avenue to come back when

1598
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 3: the regular season shows up for the Raiders and be

1599
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: a owner slash player for Las Vegas.

1600
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 4: Jackie Moon style baby in that movie.

1601
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that movie later today.

1602
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: I think he is retired this year. That's what I'll say,

1603
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 4: because I don't think. Let's be honest, guys, I don't

1604
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 4: think the owner player thing. As much as it would

1605
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 4: be an awesome story, there are bylaws against it, so

1606
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: I don't see it playing out, and.

1607
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1608
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: I kind of take Tom at his word here.

1609
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 4: This season. We'll see down the road. But this season,

1610
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 4: I think Tom's sitting out.

1611
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: I do.

1612
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: I think it's done. I do.

1613
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm leaning that way too, But definitely this season.

1614
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the thing. Can you really see him

1615
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: in silver and black with Davante Adams and a rough

1616
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: defense and going head to head with Mahomes. I have

1617
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: a hard time seeing an Herbert and Russell Wilson, I know, collectively,

1618
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I think he's done, but

1619
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 2: time will tell. He might get the itch. If anybody

1620
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: gets the itch, it's gonna be Tom coming up next.

1621
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: The music is about to stop and there's only one

1622
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: chair left. Oh, the coaching carousel is almost over here.

1623
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Speaker 2: So the latest coaching higher in the NBA Frank Vogel,

1629
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: former championship winning head coach with the Lakers. He is

1630
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: going to the Phoenix Suns five year deal thirty one mil.

1631
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 2: What's interesting here is Manny Williams, the former Sons coach.

1632
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: He got canned, but he resurfaces with the Detroit Pistons.

1633
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: Many Williams signs a six year deal for seventy eight

1634
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: point five million. He's the highest baid head coach in

1635
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: NBA history. And listen, Monti Williams is highly respected, but

1636
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: he got bounced in the second round the last two years.

1637
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: This year he lost in an elimination game by twenty

1638
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: five against the Nuggets. The previous year lost game seven

1639
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: at home by thirty three against Dallas. And now he's

1640
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: the highest paid head coach in NBA history. That is

1641
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: that's a wow right there. And Frank Vogel takes over

1642
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: his former team and he's making less than half it's

1643
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: one one year. You know, it's only a five year deal.

1644
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: Money got a six year deal, but the money is

1645
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: staggering where I guess that's the Detroit tax right there.

1646
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: We kind of open up the checkbook to get a

1647
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: name like Manny Williams to come over there. But Frank Vogel,

1648
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: he gets back in the coaching circuit again as he's

1649
01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 2: taking over in Phoenix.

1650
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes sense that he got another job.

1651
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 3: We knew it was coming eventually. What's so strange about

1652
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: head coach retreads when you know they either win a

1653
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: championship that a lot of people feel like they didn't

1654
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 3: have a lot to do with, or they are unsuccessful

1655
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 3: in recent campaigns but had success in the past. You know,

1656
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Frank Vogel is a perfect example of having success that

1657
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: not a lot of people attribute this success to Frank

1658
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: Vogel necessarily the Lakers championship in the bubble recently where

1659
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 3: he was a part of, or a Doc Rivers for example,

1660
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: who his distant past successes has led to him receiving

1661
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 3: job after job after job in the NBA, regardless of

1662
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: whether he can successfully navigate a postseason with a team

1663
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 3: full of stars. How many opportunities has he's gotten. It's

1664
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: just it's just comfort, it's familiarity. It's selling it to

1665
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: the fan base. It's saying, hey, this time it's gonna

1666
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 3: be different, and let us tell you why, or hey,

1667
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: this guy's got real credentialing, Nick Nurse, Frank Vogel, and

1668
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: let me explain to you why it.

1669
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 2: It's just an easy.

1670
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: Pill for a fan base to swallow, and it's money

1671
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: you have to spend. Anyways, if you're an NBA owner,

1672
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, let's be very

1673
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: honest with each other. Is Frank Vogel gonna make or

1674
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: break the Suns next season? Nope, No, No, is Monty

1675
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 3: Williams for that matter, going to make or break any

1676
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: team who would have signed. It's not It's not about

1677
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 3: the coaches in the NBA. It's the talent you have

1678
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 3: on the roster. That's what's gonna win you and net

1679
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: you championships.

1680
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 1: Totally agree.

1681
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 4: It's an NBA league that is a star driven league,

1682
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 4: whereas in the NFL, not so much. The coaching, the schemes,

1683
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 4: the play calling has a much greater impact on the

1684
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 4: outcome of the games than in the NBA. I mean,

1685
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 4: you see the miked up segments with these coaches on

1686
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: the sidelines. It's always funny. When they showed Doc Rivers,

1687
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 4: He's just like, yeah, guys, let's go play harder. Okay, sure,

1688
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 4: anything else you want to head coach any ski you know,

1689
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: maybe run this play now. I will say this if

1690
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 4: you asked me Vogel Williams, right, we just did it

1691
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: with the rookie quarterbacks. Which coach has a greater impact

1692
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 4: on the roster he is about to inherit. I think

1693
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 4: it's Monni Williams much younger roster much more, I guess,

1694
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 4: absorbing some of the information and the coaching and the

1695
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 4: leadership that MANI will bring to the table, whereas with

1696
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 4: the Sons it's all veterans. And I guess Frank Vogel

1697
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 4: has experienced there right, coaching Lebron and just kind of

1698
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 4: letting him do his thing, almost shepherding him and just

1699
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 4: letting him run the run the show. And and Frank's

1700
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 4: kind of just that voice in the background, which sounds

1701
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: weird as a head coach making all that money, But

1702
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 4: that's what the situation is in Phoenix compared to Detroit.

1703
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 4: Here's the irony six year deal for Monny Williams. He

1704
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 4: doesn't complete that right three four years max. I think

1705
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 4: like he's not going to satisfy the full six years.

1706
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Like these coaches, it seems like they just move on

1707
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 4: from them very quickly once the messaging goes stale.

1708
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's the thing with the Pistons. It's one

1709
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: of these tell me you're desperate without telling me you're desperate.

1710
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,919
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? You signed this guy to the highest

1711
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: paid contract in NBA history for what was he won champion?

1712
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: He's gotten boat raced in elimination games, he too the

1713
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: last two years, and he's the highest paid guy. Like,

1714
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: good lord, you could not be more desperate Detroit. And

1715
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 2: think about this. This is a team that not that

1716
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: long ago is winning titles, you know, so it's amazing.

1717
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 4: What's that tune of this NBA stuff? Do you think

1718
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 4: that's why the amount was so much for Monni? Do

1719
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 4: you think another team was after him and Detroit had

1720
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 4: to match or no?

1721
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think that Detroit just wants to be relevant,

1722
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: which I understand, and they're willing to pay the Detroit

1723
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: tax to do so. And look, Manti Williams, I'm not

1724
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 2: telling you you can't coach at all. He can be

1725
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: really good for a very young team. But to make

1726
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 2: him the highest paid guy, that's the thing right there. Yeah,

1727
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: did you have to do that to get him on

1728
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: the sideline? Probably not. That just shows me you're bad

1729
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: at business.

1730
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 3: Well, it's either bad at business or savvat public relations.

1731
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1732
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 3: You know, Sometimes sometimes whatever whatever you pay a head coach,

1733
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: you're not necessarily paying for him to coach your players

1734
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 3: into a lather so that they go out there and

1735
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: they win it all for the gipper. You know, Sometimes

1736
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 3: you're just paying a coach to be a great orator

1737
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: when things aren't going so well, or when it's going

1738
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: to take a little while for a rebuild to occur,

1739
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: or you need to stabilize a culture and set and

1740
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 3: play some good precedence so that young players coming into

1741
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 3: your franchise have some guidance, because that's what I think

1742
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 3: coaches in the NBA really offer. Can they give you

1743
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: a couple of pointers at practice? Yeah, there's no question.

1744
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: There's still some coaching that can be done, even at

1745
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: the highest level. That's the reason why players hire coaches.

1746
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 3: Teams higher coaches as well, But their main job is

1747
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 3: to be a counselor their main job is to be

1748
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 3: the liaison from front office to player level to locker room.

1749
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 3: You know, they connect that those two dots, they're they're

1750
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 3: the mouthpiece for the team. You hear from the coach

1751
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 3: more than any other player or any other person in

1752
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 3: the franchise. So sometimes you're not paying a coach to

1753
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 3: be a coach. You're paying them to be the front

1754
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: facing political figure that your fan base and your players

1755
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: are going to interact with.

1756
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting too, because you hear the saying one

1757
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: person's trash is another person's treasure. And that's the NBA

1758
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: coaching carousel. Oh his offseason to a t because you

1759
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: just saw Many Williams lose his job in Phoenix and

1760
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: now he's the highest paid coach in NBA history with

1761
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons. You look at Nick Nurse, he gets

1762
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,839
Speaker 2: canned by Detroit or by Toronto rather now he's in Philly.

1763
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Philly's like, this could be our guy to get us

1764
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 2: over the top. So I think that and Frank Vogel.

1765
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: Frank Vogel got canned a couple of years ago with

1766
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and now he resurfaces with the Suns and

1767
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,799
Speaker 2: he's got a legit shot with KD and Devin Booker.

1768
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: So it's always interesting how the coaching carousel goes. I

1769
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: think the Bucks, what they decided to do is really interesting.

1770
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: They go with Adrian Griffin because the blessing of Jannie.

1771
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: I call him the Milwaukee Giannies. Now they're not the

1772
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks. They're just all in, like Jannis, you want

1773
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Adrian cool, we'll go with him. They could have had

1774
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Nick Nurse. Nick Nurse applied for that same job. He

1775
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: was in the running. He interviewed. I say they don't

1776
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: say applied. I don't think you had to fill out

1777
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: an application, but he interviewed for that job. They could

1778
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: have had Nick Nurse, who's won a championship as a

1779
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: head coach. They went with Nick Nurse's assistant in Adrian Griffin,

1780
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: who's been an assistant for fifteen years. So Milwaukee gets

1781
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: the assistant. The Sixers they get Nick Nurse, the championship

1782
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: winning head coach. That will be interesting to see how

1783
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: it sorts itself out. And the last player is a

1784
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: couple of big names still on the open market. Mike

1785
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: Budenholzer got fired by the Bucks, he doesn't have a

1786
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: new gig. And Doc Rivers, who's the worst Game seven

1787
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: head coach ever, he's still on the open market and

1788
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: you can knock him and I get it, but he's

1789
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: still a bigger name. So Bud and Doc, there are

1790
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: two big names on the open market. And we got

1791
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: one job left with the Toronto Raptop.

1792
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll give you another one though. What about Steve Nash.

1793
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: He's a big name, that's true, but as a player,

1794
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: I'll be honest.

1795
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 4: The three we just said, if you asked me young

1796
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 4: roster looking for something fresh, Toronto is that. Yeah, I'd

1797
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 4: rather have Steve Nash coming back home to Canada than

1798
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 4: bringing home retreads like Budenholzer or Doc Rivers.

1799
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: That would be my preference.

1800
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point about you know, nationalism, a

1801
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 3: little bit of pride there. You know, you get him

1802
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 3: back in his home country, there could be something I

1803
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 3: could be sold again. That's the point I'm making about

1804
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 3: head coaches is you're not buying a head coach.

1805
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 2: You're selling one. You know, you're you're you're telling your fan.

1806
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 3: Base like, here's the guy we got it figured out.

1807
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 3: This is how we usher in our next era of winning,

1808
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 3: or or you know certain fan bases, it's this is

1809
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 3: the guy who's gonna finally get us over that playoff hump.

1810
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 3: We keep getting knocked out in the first or second round.

1811
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 3: Well guess what here comes Doc. You know, it's like,

1812
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 3: all right, well maybe or maybe it's gonna be se

1813
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 3: you what it's been in the past for that coach.

1814
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 3: But one thing you do know about a lot of

1815
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 3: the coaches we mention is they are great at talking

1816
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 3: their game. They're gonna get in from the media, everyone's

1817
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 3: gonna get comfy with them. They're gonna know how to

1818
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 3: work the room. They're gonna know which reporters they need

1819
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: to be, uh, you know, to win over. They're gonna

1820
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 3: make the organization look good until they can anymore, and

1821
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 3: then they're gonna be looking for another job.

1822
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: And that's again, that's the that's the NBA to a t.

1823
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 3: These guys, they kind of get used and reused and reused,

1824
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: and it's because everybody knows. The dirty little secret is

1825
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 3: they're they're not all that useful in terms of the

1826
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: actual coaching. You're just selling them to the fan base

1827
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 3: as as a little bit of Hey, look, you know,

1828
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 3: we we can't get rid of these players because we're

1829
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 3: paying them too much and we're under contract for the

1830
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 3: next two or three years. But we can change the

1831
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: coach guys, right right, Okay, that's the big fix.

1832
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Doc Rivers doesn't move the needle at all for

1833
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 4: me in Toronto. Like, if I'm a Toronto fan or

1834
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 4: the owner of the team or anyone involved in that

1835
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 4: process and I'm bringing in Doc Rivers, I don't.

1836
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Know how you sell that. Yeah, Like I could sell

1837
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Bud a little bit. He just won a title. Yeah,

1838
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: he's a little bit.

1839
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 4: I'd actually don't know their age discrepancy between Doc and Bud.

1840
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 4: I would assume Bud's a little younger, but not by

1841
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: a lot. Bud's been around a while too. But Steve Nash,

1842
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 4: to me, that's the fresh, young, new cool toy that

1843
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 4: they can bring up to Toronto. And then of course

1844
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 4: the nationalism factor as well, with him being from Canada.

1845
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 4: I think that would be if I'm a Raptors fan

1846
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 4: and I'm like, we just hired Doc Rivers, we just

1847
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 4: hired Steve.

1848
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Nash, I hear you, yeah, And look, Steve Nash was

1849
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: a fantastic player, one of the best, and a Canadian.

1850
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: I get that angle of it too. But as far

1851
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: as a coach, that to me is a shoulder shrug.

1852
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 2: I agree, But is but or.

1853
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Doc no a shoulder shrug too.

1854
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Bud is the shoulder shrug.

1855
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 4: I agree, Idle, I would say Bud of the two

1856
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 4: is the only one I would.

1857
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: I'll say this about but coach bud Is.

1858
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 3: Look in Milwaukee, he he truly, in my opinion, helped

1859
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: build a culture. Now Janis obviously took that culture over

1860
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: the top and they built around Yannis and they've become

1861
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 3: you know, to your point, the the Milwaukee Giannis is like.

1862
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: Whatever he says goes yeah.

1863
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 3: But I mean he he was good for them, and

1864
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 3: and he could take a young culture and he could

1865
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 3: establish them. I remember the buying was pretty tough there

1866
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: in Milwaukee too. For a little bit there. There was

1867
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 3: some belly aching about how hard they were working at practice,

1868
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: some of the conditioning that they needed to do in

1869
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: season or early season to get ready to run you know,

1870
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 3: the run the offense, run the defenses that he wanted

1871
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 3: to see on the but it benefited them and then

1872
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 3: it netted a.

1873
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Championship from Milwaukee.

1874
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean that those are the type of culture,

1875
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 3: the type of coaches who can.

1876
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Actually establish a culture, who are important.

1877
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 3: They're important in the NBA and and they they will

1878
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 3: always have jobs.

1879
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: But there's also room for the guy.

1880
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: Like like you said, Jared, I know it seems like

1881
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: a tough sell to you know, on day one of

1882
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers. But you know when you love Doc Rivers

1883
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 3: is when you have a genre rant problem. It's when

1884
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 3: you have a crisis where you need a veteran who's

1885
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 3: got his hand on the tiller and he's seen it all,

1886
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 3: he's done it all and he's he's a an impassioned

1887
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 3: speaker and he knows exactly what to say. Then then

1888
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's a rare situation. But you

1889
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: know what at your point, Yeah, yeah.

1890
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: Like the special assistant right right. I don't know. I

1891
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: just I feel like Doc has had his Doc's had

1892
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: his chance.

1893
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that many many teams his chances. I

1894
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: also think this the last little nugget here is Joe Missoula.

1895
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: He'll be back with the Boston Celtics. Brad Stevens mentioned

1896
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: that this week, And the one thing I would say

1897
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 2: is the elimination game against Miami in Game seven was

1898
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 2: just a disaster. Going nine to forty two from three

1899
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: point range was absurd. Barkley was right on the money.

1900
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: He was like, you're either coaching it or you're allowing

1901
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: it to happen. Then both are unacceptable. The one thing

1902
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 2: I would say is that I compare it to a

1903
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback in the NFL. You know, if a rookie

1904
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 2: quarterback struggles in year one, I'm not automatically like trade

1905
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: this guy, Screw this guy, get him out of here, right,

1906
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna take some growing pains and I think

1907
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: the same is true to be an NBA head coach.

1908
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: This dude's thirty four years old. Granted he's screwed up

1909
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 2: at times, but he learned a lot and there's potential

1910
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 2: for him to get better. So I think that we

1911
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: should look at co which is somewhat similarly to the

1912
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: way we look at players. You're not just gonna say, oh,

1913
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 2: you're one, get him out of here. He's not up

1914
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 2: to speed like Peyton Manning wasn't crushing it initially, and

1915
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 2: look how his career turned out. So I wouldn't be

1916
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: completely against Missoula going forward with the Celtics. Yeah, I'm

1917
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: not against it.

1918
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 3: I hated the way he handled his post season press

1919
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,560
Speaker 3: conference when they were questioning him on the game, especially

1920
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: and the decision making and the adjustments.

1921
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Yea.

1922
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 3: And I know there's the Patriot way with Bill Belichick

1923
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 3: and playing your cards close to your vest, but there's

1924
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 3: also a way to interact with the media where you're

1925
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: saying a lot but you're sharing very little. And I

1926
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 3: just felt like, if I'm the Boston Celtics brass, I

1927
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 3: better be completely convinced that he's going to become one

1928
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: of the one of those coaches like you just mentioned Brian,

1929
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 3: who learns from his mistakes and gets really really good

1930
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 3: at this really quick, because I mean the cold shoulder

1931
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 3: to the media and not really explaining yourself after a

1932
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Speaker 3: loss like that.

1933
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Speaker 2: Was a bad look for the franch I'll tell you

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1935
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1937
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Speaker 2: But it's true. It's a good point. Rich. It lands

1938
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Speaker 2: differently if you're winning a title right short with the media,

1939
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Speaker 2: if you're Popovich, if you're Belichick. It's one thing when

1940
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Speaker 2: you're holding the trophies. But Missoula, I'll never forget earlier

1941
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, he was a standoffish and he's like,

1942
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Speaker 2: nothing about the adjustments, huh, and he walked off and

1943
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Speaker 2: it was like, I kind of liked that. That was

1944
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Speaker 2: after a win, you know, But when you're short after

1945
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Speaker 2: bowing out to an eight seed, Yeah, it doesn't land

1946
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1961
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Speaker 2: So Cowboys running back Tony Pollard, he says that he'll

1962
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 2: be back for training camp. That's at the end of July.

1963
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 2: He suffered a high ankle sprain and fractured fibula in

1964
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: a playoff loss against the forty nine ers. He actually

1965
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 2: says he's faster right now, is what he he's going

1966
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: with right there. But the thing that I take away

1967
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 2: from this pretty interesting the hip drop tackle and the

1968
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: competition committee they talked about this. You might remember Patrick

1969
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: Mahomes he suffered a high ankle spraying against Jacksonville because

1970
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 2: there was a quote unquote hip drop tackle. What does

1971
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: that mean. It's like you're tackling a guy from behind,

1972
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: and based on the way they're carrying you, you might

1973
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: accidentally land on his ankle, his foot, his leg with

1974
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 2: your body weight based on that. This is actually how

1975
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes injury sounded on NBC.

1976
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 5: Mahomes may have been shaken up as he was taken down,

1977
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 5: Grab that right ankle right away in a lot of pain.

1978
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,799
Speaker 2: And how about this the very next day, similar tackle.

1979
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 2: This was Tony Pollard against the forty nine ers on Fox.

1980
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 7: Over in the middle polar passic kupped up by Ward

1981
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 7: inside the twenty and now Pollard has heard you.

1982
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: See Jimmy Ward, he kind of drops.

1983
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 3: It's very similar to what happened last night against Patrick Mahomes.

1984
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: It was back to back days in the playoffs there

1985
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: that those similar tackles took place. Look, my stance is

1986
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,919
Speaker 2: very simple. You can't prevent every injury in the NFL.

1987
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: And if the ball carrier, like in Tony Pollard's case,

1988
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard is a strong dude. He was being tackled

1989
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 2: by Jimmy Ward, who's a defensive back, and so Jimmy

1990
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,799
Speaker 2: Ward hits him initially, and Tony Pollard starts to drag

1991
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 2: him and so he's trying to Ward is completing the

1992
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: tackle and accidentally lands on his leg. Incredibly unfortunate. But

1993
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 2: you can't sit here in outlaw hip drop tackles. Are

1994
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 2: you supposed to just let someone go and let him

1995
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 2: start running?

1996
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Speaker 1: Like?

1997
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 2: You can't take football out of football? And this, to

1998
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: me would be an example of that. If they outlawed

1999
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: that type of tackle.

2000
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, we are getting to the point where

2001
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 3: I think it's possible we are gonna see the majority

2002
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 3: of the tackles that we're still seeing today outlawed, that

2003
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 3: you're going to see a game that resembles, from the

2004
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:03,520
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball more rugby than American football.

2005
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 3: I think we're hurtling towards that reality because these franchises,

2006
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,919
Speaker 3: they're ran by owners who are paying in ordinance sums

2007
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 3: of money to players who, don't, get me wrong, deserve

2008
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 3: it because they're risking their health to play this game.

2009
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: That's netting these owners billions and billions of dollars, But

2010
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 3: they don't want to see their products, so to speak,

2011
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 3: on the shelf instead of on the field. And so

2012
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 3: as a result, they're trying to legislate a lot of

2013
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 3: the violence at this game. And they're doing it slowly.

2014
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: We've seen it with the quarterback position and the wide

2015
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 3: receivers over the middle, and some of the head to

2016
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 3: head contact in general, and they're doing it step by step.

2017
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 3: This is very methodical, guys, Like you're seeing more and

2018
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 3: more of these quote unquote dangerous plays being legislated out

2019
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 3: of football until this this game is not going to

2020
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 3: resemble anything of what we grew up watching. I mean

2021
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 3: that that's the reality we're heading towards. Because again, these owners,

2022
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 3: they realize we're still we're.

2023
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: Still printing money over here.

2024
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 3: It's not like any any less viewership as a result

2025
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 3: of these rule changes, you know.

2026
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: So I think we're going to get to.

2027
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 3: A point potentially of diminishing returns where if they keep

2028
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 3: softening up this sport, people are going to be less

2029
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 3: interested in it. But it hasn't happened yet, So just

2030
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 3: count on this trend continuing. They're going to take more

2031
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 3: and more of the violence out of this game.

2032
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the punishment is what I'm more interested here.

2033
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 4: I'm okay with this being right, and I'm sure you

2034
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 4: guys have talked about this during your off season training programs.

2035
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Rich points of emphasis.

2036
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 4: Oh right, Yeah, I think I'm okay with it being

2037
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 4: a point of emphasis. But if we're going to start

2038
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 4: letting the referees use discretionary opinion on he meant to

2039
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 4: do that fifteen yard penalty, just like we do on

2040
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 4: horse callers and faith, you know, like I do, think

2041
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 4: we're getting to that point.

2042
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: Where it's a little out of hand.

2043
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 4: But I'm okay with this being a point of emphasis, like, hey,

2044
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 4: we are not going to tackle this way, and if

2045
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 4: we do and we review it after the fact, you're

2046
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 4: gonna get a hefty fine the next day. And I

2047
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 4: think I'm okay with that. But if we start going

2048
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 4: to the fifteen yard penalties for the extracurriculars like we've

2049
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 4: done with some of these rule changes, that's where I

2050
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 4: think you open up Pandora's box.

2051
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: And I think that's where things get a little murky

2052
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: for me.

2053
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think that in this hip drop tackle thing,

2054
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: it's funny that all the focus is on the defensive guy. Sure,

2055
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like, if fair is fair,

2056
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 2: like Tony Pollard, he's not doing anything wrong. But just

2057
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 2: follow me on this for a second. Tony Pollard gets

2058
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 2: hit in that playoff game against the forty nine ers

2059
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 2: by Jimmy Ward and he does the right thing. He

2060
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 2: keeps fighting for extra yardage. Well, that had a role

2061
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,839
Speaker 2: in Jimmy Ward tackling him in land on his ankle.

2062
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: So it's like, why is it only on the defensive guy? Like,

2063
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense either to say, well, hey,

2064
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, if you get hit like that, you're just

2065
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 2: the play is dead right there? Like what are we

2066
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: doing here? Like, listen, man, I can understand with horse

2067
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 2: collar tackles. I can totally appreciate how that is incredibly dangerous.

2068
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: And you ask yourself the question as a defender, well,

2069
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 2: what are you supposed to do? Well, not that you

2070
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: can't just grab a guy's shoulder pad and yank him

2071
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 2: down while he's running forward and you drag him down backwards.

2072
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: You have to tackle him a different way. That makes sense,

2073
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: But the hip drop thing. If I'm a defensive back,

2074
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 2: for instance, I hit a guy head up and that

2075
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 2: guy is so strong he starts to drag me. I'm

2076
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 2: gonna hold on for dear life. I'm not trying to

2077
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: land on his ankle. But some stuff just happens on

2078
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 2: a football field. You can't legislate all the violence out

2079
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 2: of the game. And I totally appreciate trying to keep

2080
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 2: these guys healthy and upright because we want to see

2081
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 2: the stars play. But some of the be all of

2082
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 2: foot is just how violent it is. You can't legislate

2083
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: all of that out of it. It wouldn't be football anymore. Yeah, yeah,

2084
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 2: that's Look.

2085
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 3: My main focus here isn't necessarily like what's fair for

2086
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 3: the players because they're getting paid handsomely.

2087
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 2: You know, as a.

2088
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,919
Speaker 3: Former player, when a rule changed and it wasn't necessarily

2089
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 3: fair to me or my position group.

2090
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 2: All right, boohoo, you know whatever.

2091
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 3: If it makes the game safer and it doesn't change

2092
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 3: the soul of the game, then who cares.

2093
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for player safety.

2094
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: I remember one of the big changes that came during

2095
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 3: my career as an offensive lineman specifically affected me was

2096
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 3: you weren't allowed to cut block defensive linemen on the

2097
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 3: backside of plays.

2098
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 2: Now, this is an offensive league.

2099
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 3: They want offenses to score a bunch of points and

2100
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,440
Speaker 3: get a bunch of yards. So this actually debilitated offenses

2101
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 3: from being productive on the run game because you have

2102
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 3: some really fast defensive tackles who out leverage just based

2103
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,759
Speaker 3: on their alignment these backside offensive linemen, and it's really

2104
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 3: difficult to make those blocks. And so the game looked

2105
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: different that season as a result of it. The game

2106
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 3: got safer, and not a lot of fans could specifically

2107
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: notice the difference in gameplay.

2108
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 2: But something like this, where you.

2109
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 3: Are slowly and methodically taking away all these different forms

2110
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 3: of being able to bring down these stut athletes on

2111
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 3: the offense, I mean defenders, what are they going to

2112
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 3: be able to actually do to stop It's going to

2113
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 3: have to be group tackling because every tackle is going

2114
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 3: to have to be an arm tackle otherwise it's going

2115
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 3: to be too violent to pass muster in the NFL.

2116
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 3: It's again, Look, I'm starting to feel like one of

2117
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 3: these old farts who's just like.

2118
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 11: This game is soft, and back when I played, we

2119
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 11: were leather helmets and I mean sweaters.

2120
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 2: That was all the pads they gave us with big letters.

2121
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: You know.

2122
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 3: No, I'm not trying to be that guy, but there's

2123
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 3: going to be a point of diminishing returns, where if

2124
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 3: you take too much of the violence out of a

2125
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 3: violent game, you're not going to have a game anymore.

2126
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 2: It's like trying to say, hey, we love boxing, but

2127
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 2: could we stop punching people in the head right, exactly right, Yeah,

2128
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 2: it's that gonna work.

2129
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm okay with point of emphasis. I'm not okay with

2130
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 4: penalty fifteen yards. I think point of emphasis fine for

2131
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 4: the egregious ones. I'm fine with if we start to

2132
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: cross the line of if you tackle a guy in

2133
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: the wrong way, we're gonna add fifteen yards to the

2134
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 4: end of the run and we're gonna basically give points

2135
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 4: to the other team. That's where I'm a little bit

2136
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 4: on the fence on this one. I would say I

2137
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 4: agree with Rich's take there, but I'm okay with point

2138
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 4: of emphasis showing the videos of those injuries. We are

2139
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 4: not trying to hurt players. That is not the goal

2140
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 4: of tackling. We're just trying to get them to the

2141
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 4: ground as efficiently as possible.

2142
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Someone I'm not on the fv on would be our

2143
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 2: guy Nick Cope. I'm firmly in the corner of him.

2144
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 2: Not so much his you know, his wife and the

2145
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 2: in laws there being IU fans and hailing from the

2146
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Speaker 2: South Bend, Indiana area, that is unforgivable in my book.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'll take it though, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Brian, Let's stick.

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Speaker 7: In the NFL here Miami, Harold reporting that if running

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Speaker 7: back Dalvin Cook were to be cut by the Vikings,

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01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 7: which a separate report from ESPN says that is likely

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01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,719
Speaker 7: to happen, that Harold says the Dolphins are a real

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01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 7: possibility as a landing spot for Cook, reports saying Josh

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01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,520
Speaker 7: Harris is set to me with the NFL's Finance Committee

2155
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 7: on Wednesday, coming up next week, in another step to

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01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 7: a possible vote being had this summer on the sale

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Speaker 7: of the Commanders. In the NBA, es Peter Ports Knicks

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01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 7: All star for Julius Randall had surgery on his left

2159
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 7: ankle yesterday, but he is expected to be ready for

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01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 7: training camp in the fall. French Open top remaining American

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01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 7: woman Coco Off and defending women's champ Egosh Fiantek each

2162
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 7: won their matches today.

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01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 2: They're both into the round of sixteen. Hockey.

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01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 7: We got Game one of the Stanley Cup Final coming

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01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 7: up tonight. Eight to Eastern the Golden Knights and the Panthers,

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01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 7: each hoping to claim their first championship in franchise history.

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,440
Speaker 7: To soccer, the FA Cup Final, Manchester City leads Manchester

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01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 7: United two to one. Ilkai Gundawan scored a second goal

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01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 7: to put City up two to one in the second half.

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Speaker 7: He nearly had a hat trick moments ago, but was

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01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 7: ruled off side. Finally, golf, third round of the Memorial

2172
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 7: Tournament underway. Justin Sue leads at eight under Hideki Matsuyama

2173
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 7: sits one shot.

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Speaker 2: Back guys, back to you. Great stuff, Vick. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 2: Good hanging with you too, Man. Please Fox Sports. Thanks,

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. You

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01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 2: know real fast. I found this interesting. The SEC so

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01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 2: they have voted on their conference games next season, so

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01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 2: we're not talking twenty twenty three. They'll play eight conference

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01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 2: games next year. In twenty twenty four, when Oklahoma and

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01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 2: Texas both joined the conference, they'll still stay at eight

2183
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 2: conference games. I love this quote. This is beautiful from

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01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 2: Eli Drinkwitz. He's the Missouri head coach. He said, I'm

2185
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 2: a history teacher by trade, and every time I come

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01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 2: to one of these meetings. I'm blown away that the

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01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: thirteen colonies actually formed a union, but we can't agree

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01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 2: on an eight or nine game schedule, is what drink

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01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 2: Woitz had to say. Now here's the thing. I think

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01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 2: that what's best for us as fans is a lot

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01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 2: different than what's best for the SEC. Because as fans,

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01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 2: I want to see the best matchups. I want to

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01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: see Alabama play their rivals Auburn, Tennessee, LSU the way

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01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 2: it is right now, it wouldn't be that way. You

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: would have one permanent rival in seven rotating opponents. That's

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01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 2: an eight game conference schedule in the SEC. But take

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01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 2: Alabama for instance. From the SEC's point of view, they

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 2: look at it and they say, okay, cool, if we

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01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,879
Speaker 2: go to nine conference games, you might have something similar

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01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 2: with what happened last year. Alabama goes on the road,

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01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 2: loses at Tennessee. If they don't play Tennessee, they might

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01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 2: be in the College Football Playoff. So how is it

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01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 2: good for us to go to nine conference games? Exactly?

2204
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: When you look at it from their point of view,

2205
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: I see what they're saying. I'm greedy, I want the

2206
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 2: best matchups. I hope they do go to nine conference games,

2207
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 2: but you got to understand why they're reluctant to do so.

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01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I will say this about rivalries because

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01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 3: I know there's gonna be certain people who are going

2210
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 3: to be up in arms saying, hey, you know, my

2211
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 3: school that I root for has more than just one

2212
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 3: natural rival You know, this is ridiculous. You know that

2213
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 3: part of that part of the conversation unfortunately doesn't resonate

2214
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 3: as much with me, and I understand there are certain

2215
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 3: teams that will have multiple teams that the fan base

2216
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 3: is excited to root against. But you can still have

2217
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 3: a rivalry where the game isn'tplayed every year. I mean,

2218
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: it can still be characterized as a rivalry. It can

2219
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 3: still be enjoyed as a rivalry. I mean, certain games

2220
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 3: you gotta play every single year, right, I mean we

2221
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 3: need to see we need to see Army Navy at

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 3: some point, you know what I mean. We need to

2223
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 3: see Ohio State Michigan at some point.

2224
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 2: We need to.

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01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 3: See Look, I mean you go through the list, there's

2226
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 3: tons of them, but not every rivalry needs to be

2227
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 3: in every year, annual event. And so that part of

2228
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 3: the conversation I've never really understood, really never enjoyed engaging

2229
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 3: in but in terms of like gamesmanship and protecting the

2230
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 3: teams that don't want to face don't want to face

2231
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 3: the wide birth of the conference so that they can

2232
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,640
Speaker 3: preserve a great record. I understand where they're coming from.

2233
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 3: But if you can make for a more dramatic and

2234
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 3: interesting football season as a result of having teams play

2235
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 3: more conference games, I'm in favor of it.

2236
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.

2237
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 3: I don't want college football ever to steer away from

2238
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 3: the end user, which is the consumer, the person watching

2239
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 3: at home or filling the seats in these stadiums. Let's

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01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 3: not forget that. That's the reason why these these athletes

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01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 3: are making multimillions dollars. That's the reason why these coaches

2242
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 3: for years now have been making tens of millions of dollars.

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 4: I like Kirby Smart's approach. He said, it's quote the

2244
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 4: most overrated conversation there ever, was the difference between an

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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 4: eight game and a nine game conference schedule in the SEC.

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to I think it's fodder

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01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 4: for us to talk about, and Kirby made that point

2248
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 4: as well, But I just I like going away from

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01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 4: the divisions which make no sense. I like going to

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 4: a more balanced schedule. The difference between eight and nine

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01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 4: to me, is is not a big debate.

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01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's huge.

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01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,879
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me why Kirby's wrong.

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01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: Then, okay, I'll tell you exactly why. Let's take Alabama,

2255
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: so their three rivals. If they go to nine games,

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01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 2: what they would do is you would have three rivals

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01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: that you play each year, and then you'd cycle through

2258
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 2: the other six teams. So each two years you would

2259
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 2: play everybody, which makes a lot of sense. But for Alabama,

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01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: they would play their main rival Auburn, they also play Tennessee,

2261
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 2: and they'd also play LSU. Like that's a gauntlet right there,

2262
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 2: just for Bama. So if you compare that to just

2263
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 2: playing Auburn and in some year skipping both LSU and Tennessee,

2264
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 2: that's a huge benefit.

2265
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 4: So you think it's a disadvantage to the other teams

2266
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 4: that a benefit to Alabama.

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01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: I think that it is a tougher road to the

2268
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: playoff is if you're going through tougher competition, absolutely.

2269
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 1: I think the.

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01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 4: Thing that makes it a little bit difficult to handicap

2271
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 4: is the fact that every team in the SEC has

2272
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 4: a different amount of quote unquote natural rivals.

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01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 1: Sure, that makes it murky.

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: But we know that the SEC is the premier conference, absolutely.

2275
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 2: So if you get one fewer conference game and you

2276
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 2: can schedule whomever from non conference, sometimes it's Billy Bob Tech,

2277
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: you know your path to the playoffs is easier.

2278
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

2279
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 4: I think however, here's the counterpoint to that. We are

2280
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 4: getting expansion to the playoff, and it is obvious to

2281
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 4: me based off of what we've seen over the last

2282
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,839
Speaker 4: couple of years. Teams are getting rewarded for challenging themselves

2283
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 4: in non conference and because the playoff is going to

2284
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: be expanded, you are going to have more competition getting

2285
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 4: into that playoff.

2286
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard, I think.

2287
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 4: I know it's hard to get into the playoff now,

2288
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 4: but when you go from four to eight or eight

2289
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 4: to sixteen than nine, ten and eleven or seventeen, eighteen nineteen,

2290
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 4: are going to have the gripes. And I think who

2291
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 4: you play on the schedule matters in that scenario. So

2292
01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 4: I think teams will Sure, you can go play Billy

2293
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 4: Bob Tech and so off West Dakota, but you're going

2294
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 4: to be penalized when the rubber meets the road in

2295
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 4: January and the committee's picking their teams.

2296
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, so I think there's a trade off there, I

2297
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 1: do you know, and not to play.

2298
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 3: Tiebreaker because I think both of you have points that

2299
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:15,879
Speaker 3: would like better.

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01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 11: Right idiot, But really, what answer very smartly here in

2301
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 11: this occasion, I lean more toward it being very punitive

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01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 11: for certain teams to take on an extra conference game.

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01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 3: So I understand exactly where Brian's coming from, because if

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01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 3: I'm a head coach.

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01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 2: I hate this.

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01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 3: Although to your point, look, conferences are waited differently like

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01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 3: the Big Ten.

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01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 2: Every year with an expanded.

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01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 3: College basketball postseason, you have the opportunity for a lot

2310
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 3: of Big Ten teams to get in, and other conferences

2311
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 3: don't get a lot of teams in, and we know

2312
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 3: exactly why because they're just viewed differently publicly. The SEC

2313
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 3: obviously is going to get a huge nod over the Pac.

2314
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Twelve for example in colle football.

2315
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, if college playoffs

2316
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 3: are expanded, yeah, you don't have as big of a gripe.

2317
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 3: But right now, with just four teams going into the postseason,

2318
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 3: it's a huge gripe.

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01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: Right, more playoff teams give you a couple of mulligans

2320
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 2: where you can still sneak in. But the SEC wouldn't

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01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 2: be caught dead going to nine conference games when it's

2322
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: only four teams in the playoffs. Right, there's a reason why.

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01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 2: All right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I will go around the rule.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with you, Jared, what do you like in

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Speaker 2: betting wise today or this weekend in general?

2354
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Speaker 1: Well, we got the Stanley Cup final tonight.

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Speaker 4: Guys right here in my backyard, teamobil Areina, Vegas and

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01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 4: They're actually eleven and one to the first period over

2359
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 4: so far.

2360
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: Over the last twelve games.

2361
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 4: But we're going under tonight. We're bucking the trend. I

2362
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 4: think a little nerves. Florida's had some time off. I

2363
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 4: think they're gonna be a little more defensive minded. So

2364
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 4: we'll go first period under Vegas Florida, and I think

2365
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 4: Miami probably keeps it close tomorrow night, and I'll go

2366
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 4: over in the NBA game on Sunday Night.

2367
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all liked the over for Sunday Night.

2368
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 3: I like Jimmy Butler twenty five and a half point total.

2369
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 3: Give me the over there too. No chance he goes

2370
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 3: cold twice in this series.

2371
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 2: I am hugging the over Game two in the NBA

2372
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 2: Finals two fifteen and a half. I've bet it already, Broa,

2373
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: I could have bet more