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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's me, Joey p

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Speaker 1: Joe Zapia and today, Oh Baby, we're gonna have our

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Speaker 1: NFC preview. Last week, in case you missed it, we

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Speaker 1: And today it's one of my favorite people, one of

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at Randall Rant. Mikey,

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Speaker 1: it is so nice to see you. I'm so used

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Speaker 1: every week. Now we don't get to do that. So this,

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Speaker 1: my friend, is a special treat to spend some quality

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Speaker 2: It's about special moments, and this is certainly one of them.

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Speaker 2: I am honored to be here. You and I have

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Speaker 2: done great work together. Now we're doing on a video.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk NFC Football's around the corner. Let's get

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Speaker 1: Let's get after a baby. So today we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about those divisions, how they're set up, and of course

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Speaker 1: that's what Betting Pros is going to give you. And

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Speaker 1: let's start here with the NFC East. Oh, everybody's favorite division, Mike,

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Speaker 1: because you know, it was so exciting to watch no

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Speaker 1: But you know what, that Washington fotball team plucky. I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed them. I was rooting for them. It was them

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Speaker 1: against the world. With that incredible defense, One can only

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Speaker 1: that division. The Cowboys hopefully will have Dak Prescott healthy

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Speaker 1: Giants and the Eagles. The Cowboys, though, are the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Of course they are because they're the public team. Plus

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Speaker 1: one forty five on the Cowboys, the Washington football team

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Speaker 1: these are the consensus betting pros numbers. So when you

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Speaker 1: look at the East, Mike, obviously, every time you look

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Speaker 1: But is this plus one forty five actually a pretty

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Speaker 2: It's a decent number, But I have questions about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Their defense was so bad last year that they spent

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Speaker 2: But my problem, Joe is the offensive line isn't quite

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Speaker 2: but I don't think they're going to win the division.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go in a different direction. And as

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Speaker 1: All right, So who do you like, Harey? Is it

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Speaker 3: In this division.

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Speaker 2: There's no chance that Iron Vera defense is going to

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Speaker 2: My favorite is Washington. I think they should be a

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Speaker 1: Enjoy doing shows of you. Sometimes there's debate, but I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, man, I think Washington might just win this out.

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Speaker 2: Mcizzick and Antonio Gibson and all the running backs there.

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Speaker 2: that usually regresses. I'll take last year's division champion.

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Speaker 2: He has a great number against the spread and they're

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Speaker 2: I look for a bounce back in the vikings. I

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Speaker 2: Now that Rogers is back, I think the money and

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Speaker 3: I like the vikings here in the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan. I

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Speaker 2: It's the Bucks and there's no competition here. Once Michael

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Speaker 2: Thomas went down the changeover in quarterback, I can't go

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Speaker 2: not going with the Falcons with a first year head

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Speaker 2: However, I don't mind minus two hundred going with the

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Speaker 2: But another area I want to look at is Carolina's

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Speaker 2: a half. I think that number is too low. I

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Speaker 2: coaching staff, Matt Rules. Second year Sam Darnald comes in.

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnald's reputation went down the drain because we heard

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Speaker 3: If there was no mic.

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Speaker 2: And that did not happen, we would not be thinking

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Speaker 2: so low about Sam Darnald. He's had terrible offensive line play.

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Speaker 2: Carolina should provide that a little bit better than he

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Speaker 2: Carolina plays to start home Jets at Houston home Philly.

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen still sounds weird to me when you say it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Marcus Calloy listen great for fantasy with

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Speaker 2: the NFC West, it's between the Rams in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm gonna toss Seattle out. Their offensive line

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Speaker 3: Last year it was reverse.

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Speaker 2: I like the forty nine ers in the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford unleashed now is going to be

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Speaker 1: that neither of us went Seahawks in it, even though

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have no problem.

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Speaker 2: I think Stafford's gonna have a monster year, and I

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Speaker 1: Potentially we have the Bucks at plus three hundred. Here

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Speaker 1: Plus three hundred there for the Buccaneers, the Packers at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the favorites, those are fine, and I think

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Speaker 1: When did you become a Bucks fan? What did that know? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've been a Bucks fan. I have a good

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Speaker 1: All right, did anybody ever tell you you look like

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Speaker 3: Well, and this was such a big thing for me.

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Speaker 1: As crazy as that sounds, you're kind of not in

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Speaker 1: your head. I feel like you're kind of feeling that

431
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 1: too a little bit.

432
00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 3: You took the words out of my mouth.

433
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,360
Speaker 2: That's why a great mind think of like I want

434
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 2: a defense and I want to run the ball, And

435
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,919
Speaker 2: that's why I like Minnesota plus twenty two hundred and

436
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 2: I like Washington a plus twenty five hundred offensive line,

437
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 2: stop the run pressure. Keep in mind Tampa Bay almost

438
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 2: lost to Taylor Heineke. Just keep that in mind in

439
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. That's the type of teams I

440
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: want as much as my Saints had here without Michael Thomas.

441
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: I just don't think they can do it. And they

442
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 2: have to work out the quarterback play. Sean Payton's gonna

443
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: do some great things with Taysom Hill. But I just

444
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: think these other teams are better built for that win

445
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: that they need in the cold Minnesota, Washington, no problem

446
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: going on the road here. I like both of those.

447
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 2: Plus twenty two hundred plus twenty five hundred, I will

448
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 2: take it.

449
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 1: Plus twenty five. You don't have to put that much

450
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: on it, you know, put a little bit, and then

451
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if it starts to look good,

452
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,959
Speaker 1: then you double down later on. That's what you do.

453
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a look at some win totals

454
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Speaker 1: and some player props in the NFC. Let's start with

455
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. We already kind of talked about the

456
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, which I'm glad Mike brought it up, because

457
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 1: that's a team that I think is not being taken

458
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: as seriously as they should. Also, very young defense. They

459
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 1: spent every single draft pick two years ago on defense,

460
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 1: and they were very green. But if you walk closely

461
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 1: last year that Carolina Panthers defense started to get it.

462
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: They started to look very young athletic, and they weren't

463
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: nearly as taken advantage of as they were in the

464
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Speaker 1: first part of the season. I'm fascinated to see what

465
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: that unit looks like in twenty twenty one. Let's talk

466
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Speaker 1: about the Cardinals though. The number for them is eight

467
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: and a half plus money on the over, plus one

468
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: oh five minus one twenty five on the under. Ken

469
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: and again we have to, like I said last week,

470
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: we have to readjust our brains here about this eight number,

471
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: because as not for No. Five hundred anymore. You're either

472
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: a winning team or you're losing team unless you get

473
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Speaker 1: a tie. And nobody likes that. Nobody eight and a half.

474
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: That's the number. What do you do with the Cardinals here?

475
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: Over under or stay away?

476
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: Didn't share my notes with you prior to this, but

477
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Speaker 2: you said five hundred, and that's the key number, Joe.

478
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: In Cliff Kingsbury's career, both as a college coach and

479
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 2: a pro coach, he has got over five hundred just

480
00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 2: twice in early years. He's getting this reputation as this

481
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: is fake sharp in the fantasy community. Thirty five and

482
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: forty career record in college as a head coach, thirteen

483
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: eighteen and one as an NFL head coach. They were

484
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 2: eight and eight last year when San Francisco was six

485
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: and ten. I am taking the under here. I know

486
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: they added JJ Watt, but they added a lot of

487
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: older players, which during this year with COVID still as

488
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: an issue, could be a problem. JJ Watt thirty two,

489
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: AJ Green thirty three, Malcolm Butler thirty one. James Conner's

490
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 2: twenty six, but he's had injury history, just came off

491
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Speaker 2: the COVID list. The Cardinals face the sixth most difficult

492
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: slate of pass defenses per Warren Sharp. I'll take the

493
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: fake sharp Cliff Kingsbury, he will go under eight and

494
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: a half.

495
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Speaker 1: I love it, man, you crushing it all right. Let's

496
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Speaker 1: go to the Dallas Cowboys. Here again the public money

497
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes I like to take advantage of this. Now

498
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: the numbers nine and a half here plus one p

499
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Speaker 1: fifteen on the over, minus one thirty five on the

500
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: under on that nine and a half. So look, I

501
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: know you talk about the defense being bad, but man,

502
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: this feels like a team that could really just outscore

503
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Speaker 1: everybody or at least most people to get to ten wins.

504
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: Cowboys feel like a ten win team to me, especially

505
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: cause they play the Eagles and the Giants twice. I mean, yeah,

506
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: you gotta go three and one. You gotta imagine like

507
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: that's three wins right there, at least in my mind.

508
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: But what do you think about this team? I know

509
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: they drafted Michael Parsons, I know they've made some moves

510
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: here at least in the offseason, But nine and a half.

511
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: Can they get to double digits? I feel like they can.

512
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't think any team in the NFL is more

513
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: destined for nine and eight than the Dallas Cowboys. They

514
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: have a defense that still I still think is gonna struggle.

515
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't think the offensive line is that much better

516
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 2: than the defenses of both Washington and the Giants. By

517
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: the way, in this division, the Cowboys get the public

518
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: money that the number always gets inflated.

519
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: Is Dak healthy? I think so?

520
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: But the second arm MRI is a little concerning, and

521
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: if you know, if he misses time, this team is

522
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: going south. Little note here, Joe, since two thousand with Dallas,

523
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: because they receive all the public money, they are fourteen

524
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: and seven to the underwin total since two thousand, I'm

525
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: gonna make at fifteen and seven. We will go under

526
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: here with the Cowboys.

527
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: Very nice, Okay, all right, So we're gonna differ on

528
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: that one. We're together on one. Different on the other.

529
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Packers. The number is ten and

530
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: a half minus one twenty on the over, plus one

531
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: hundred on the under. So ten and a half. I mean,

532
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong season. Obviously a division that could be

533
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty competitive. Though, So when you're looking at this North

534
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: and you're looking at the Packers here, can they get

535
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: the over ten and a half? Is this number you

536
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: like or don't this one?

537
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm staying away. I think it's the Vikings and the

538
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: Packers clearly ahead of everyone else in the division. Lions

539
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: I'm not into. I think the Bears are headed in

540
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: the wrong direction. So could I see Minnesota Joe getting

541
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: eleven wins and then the Packers also getting eleven in

542
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: Minnesota winning the tiebreaker or possibly twelve and eleven?

543
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Sure.

544
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: I don't like the defense. I think they're soft. I

545
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: don't like the offensive line. I also have this thing

546
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: with Mojo, you know, the whole thing with Aaron Rodgers

547
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: in the offseason. I'm telling you who I want, Randall Cobb.

548
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay away from this one. I could see,

549
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: even though I'm down on the Packers, them cresting this number.

550
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: So it's to stay away from.

551
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Me crusting this number. Nice vocab. I enjoy that. You

552
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: come for the football, you stay for the vocab, everybody.

553
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. The over under for the Rams this year.

554
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: That number is ten and a half plus one twenty

555
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: on the ten and a half. Getting nice number there

556
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: on that minus one forty on the ten and a

557
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: half on the under. So your thoughts here on the Rams? Again?

558
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: Tough division, So what are your thoughts here on this one?

559
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, super competitive division, but the plus money on the

560
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: over ten and a half is attractive to me. This

561
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: is the most competitive division, but they could have two

562
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: teams that are just that much better. Seattle is sort

563
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: of the wildcar here, but the Rams do look solid.

564
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: They can put points up. Aaron Donald Jalen Ramsey. The

565
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: plus money is the key here. The fact that I'm

566
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: getting plus one twenty if they can get eleven wins

567
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: is too attractive to pass up. Even though I like

568
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: San Francisco to possibly win the NFC.

569
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: I'll take the over here with the Rams.

570
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: This next one, I want to smash the under. I'm

571
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, smash it. New Orleans Saints nine nine

572
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: without Drew Brees Now, Michael Thomas, I'm sorry, I just

573
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: cannot get there plus one hundred. I know it's minus

574
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: one twenty, but you know what, I think this is

575
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: one of the few times I see a minus number

576
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go with the under. And I'm

577
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna just grin and Barrett, because I don't see how

578
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: they get there. I don't see how this is a

579
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: winning team. I really don't. I mean, look, they've strung

580
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: it together. Sean Payton is a wonderful football coach. But

581
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think the more there's losing Drew Brees

582
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback, use Drew Brees the leader, and I think

583
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: that is just something you can't account for enough year

584
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: over year, and I just think this is gonna be

585
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: an ugly year for the Saints.

586
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: Personally, I agree. I think it's a challenging year. I

587
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: like Taysom Hill over Jamis Winston. I think he went

588
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: three and one. I think it was last year in

589
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: one of those games was the Denver game. I understand

590
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: that with the quarterback issue, that was a give me yeah,

591
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: but there was a disconnect between Camara and Taysom Hill

592
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: getting those dump offs. They don't have any receiving options.

593
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: They really need Adam Troutman to pop as a tight end.

594
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, they're gonna be in trouble. The defense

595
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: is great, but they're in a division here where they're

596
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: going to be challenged. They have Tampa Bay that to me,

597
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: is gonna be two losses without Michael Thomas. Marquez Callaway's

598
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: their leading receiver. I just can't see it. I think

599
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: Kamarai is gonna hit some regression as well. We can

600
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: talk about that later. I'm with you on the under,

601
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: even though the minus money is there, I'm gonna take

602
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: it and I'm gonna lay the juice.

603
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Troutman needs to have a good game this week. I

604
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: need to see something needs.

605
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: To be Jimmy Graham for them to be if this

606
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: jew's got to be Jimmy Graham.

607
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: Yes, but I need to see something, some glimmer of

608
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: that this week because we're not gonna see anything in

609
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Week three, because everyone's gonna see it like that. That's great, like.

610
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: This is such a weird pattern too, because we have preseason,

611
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: so we have Game one where you're gonna get like

612
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: a little glimmer series or two of guys, and then

613
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, the secondary guys come in and the thirst

614
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: string guys come in. And then this week I'm anticipating

615
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a half of football, maybe from some

616
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: of these teams, some more than others. But then the

617
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: following week I expect to see nothing again. It's gonna

618
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: be like the old Week four. I would imagine now

619
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: maybe a couple position battles and things like that to

620
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: look at, but I don't know. This is kind of

621
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: a make or break week for Troutman there to kind

622
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: of give you at least some confidence going into the year.

623
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: Let's transition here and finish with some fun stuff. Let's

624
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: do some player props in the NFC, and let's start

625
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: with my favorite quarterback in the world, Aaron Rodgers, who

626
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: is never, never negative and obviously is a big team guy.

627
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: Forty five hundred and fifty and a half. That is

628
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the number, forty five to fifty and a half. Minus

629
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: one twelve on the over, minus one twelve on the under.

630
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: You want to go over under on the forty five

631
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: fifty and a half number. For Aaron Rodgers, it's a

632
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: pretty big number.

633
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Vegas is so smart they're adding the extra game, and

634
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 2: that is tempting people to do the over on these bets.

635
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: Let's remember, folks, how do you know the quarterbacks are

636
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: not gonna sit in that last week?

637
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Right?

638
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: Well, we sure that it's going to be seventeen games.

639
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has.

640
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: Say it with me.

641
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Joe crested this number once in his entire sixteen year

642
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: NFL career, and that was in twenty eleven when he

643
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: only played fifteen games. I think the number is too high.

644
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: You know, they want to run the ball. Aj Dillon is.

645
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: Going to get rushing attempts. They want to control it.

646
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: If you think the Packers are going to be good

647
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: and there's gonna have positive game script and you're dealing

648
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: with an older quarterback, I will hit the under here

649
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: minus one twelve.

650
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: This next one is a fascinating quarterback number at the

651
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: time we're talking about it because of the injury. Now,

652
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: in my mind, I think Dak Prescott going into the

653
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: season quote unquote healthy, had a real shot at five

654
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: thousand yards because two years ago he nearly hit that

655
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: number in just sixteen games, So now you're adding that

656
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: extra game, the number is forty eight twenty five and

657
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: a half. So four eight hundred and twenty five and

658
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: a half the over plus one zero two the minus

659
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: one thirty on the under. I think this is an

660
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: over and don't I don't think this is close again

661
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: if healthy, And I think the only reason you're getting

662
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the numbers you're getting on it right now is because

663
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: people are a little concerned. And I think this number,

664
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know, if reports get better, maybe

665
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: you see this number jump in terms of where it's set.

666
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on Dak? Are you you

667
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: seeing a little bit more hesitant on the Cowboy than I.

668
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: Am on the Cowboys? Yes, on Dak.

669
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: No to hit this prop, he has to average three

670
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: hundred and one passing yards per game for only sixteen games.

671
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: He could be off Week seven seventeen and still hit this.

672
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: Or suppose the Cowboys are battling like I project them

673
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: to be at nine to eight and he actually plays

674
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: seventeen last year before he got hurt, three hundred and

675
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: seventy one passing yards per game two point four touchdowns,

676
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: thirty point four fantasy points. Give me plus money. I

677
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: understand it could be hurt, but that's baked into the number.

678
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I'll take a chance here. I will take the over

679
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: with Dak in what I think the Cowboys are going

680
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: to be battling for a playoff spot and he may

681
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: have to play seventeen games.

682
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, some people think in the fantasy football community,

683
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: has an outside shot at being wide receiver one overall.

684
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: And I was a very big Calvin Ridley guy last

685
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: year partially because Julio Jones was actually still there. I

686
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: thought that's actually something that's good for the young wide

687
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: receiver to continue to learn under somebody like Julio and also,

688
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, continue to have coverage pulled over. But when

689
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Julio wasn't around, Calvin Riddan still balled out. So that

690
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: is good. Now, this number is one thy three hundred

691
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and seventy five and a half. That's the number. That's

692
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: a pretty solid number that, my friends, is a Julio number.

693
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: The question is it's a different head coach. Is it

694
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: a different philosophy. You have Kyle Pitts, you have Gage,

695
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: you have Mike Davis. Ridley is your premium weapon. Let's

696
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: be honest. Okay, I mean I think Kyle Pitts is

697
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: a phenomenal prospect. Let's see how he transitions into the NFL.

698
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: But what do you think about this number? Thirteen seventy

699
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: five and a half over under is minus one twelve.

700
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: What do you do with Ridley here?

701
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: He had thirteen seventy four last year with Julio still

702
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: hanging around Falcons. Pass plays per game last three years fifth,

703
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: first and third. I know Arthur Smith new head coach,

704
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: so we're uncertain. Are we grounding and pounding with Mike.

705
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Davis and Caydrialison? We are not?

706
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Don't think so?

707
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: No way, and listen, I don't think they're going to

708
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: be very strong as a team, so I think they're

709
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: going to be passing a lot. Ridley last year first

710
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: among wide receivers in air yards, fourth and receiving yards,

711
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: seventh in targets, but only thirteenth in target share on

712
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: the Falcons. That obviously goes way up. I think he

713
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: has the same production with more volume efficiency plus volume,

714
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: he could lead the league in receiving yards over for

715
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley.

716
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about his teammate Kyle Pitts the

717
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: rookie sensation, and look, I understand why people are excited.

718
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: They should be excited about him. The number for him

719
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: I thought was fascinating eight hundred and a half. That's

720
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: the over under minus one twelve on both. So what

721
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: do you think about Kyle Pitts? Can he be the

722
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: anomaly when it comes to rookie tight ends eventually?

723
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Yes, this year No.

724
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: Most receiving yards by a rookie for tight end Mike

725
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Dicka one thy seventy six, Shocky back in two thousand

726
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: and two, eight ninety four, Keith Jackson eight sixty nine,

727
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 2: Chase Young eight sixty four back in seventy three, and

728
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: John Mackie seven sixty four. Do I think that Kyle

729
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Pitts is going to have the fourth best season ever

730
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: of a tight end as a rookie.

731
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: No, I do not, even in.

732
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: The current climate of the way the NFL structured, like

733
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: the way it's so wide open now and the need

734
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: that the Falcons have. That's fair and they're going to

735
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: pass a lot, But he's not gonna play tight end only.

736
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna line up some times out there as well.

737
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: That's my argument for this number is. That's why I

738
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: think it's so fascinating. It's like, do you believe he

739
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: gets work, you know, as a wide receiver basically, or

740
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: is like this weird hybrid player.

741
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I think he does, Joe, But I think there's a

742
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: learning curve for wide receivers, rookie wide receivers coming in

743
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, and we know there's a learning curve for

744
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: rookie tight ends. Hayden Hurst is going to be a splinter.

745
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Gage will catch some passes, Zachias will catch him passes,

746
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: Mike Davis will catch him passes, all under the umbrella

747
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: of Calvin Ridley. I think he has a very strong year,

748
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: and I think he could eventually become this dominant of

749
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: a tight end. I don't see it in year one.

750
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: I will take the.

751
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Under all right, Christian McCaffrey. The rushing total twelve hundred

752
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: and a half. This is kind of built into whether

753
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: or not you think he can stay healthy, because it

754
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: feels like if he's healthy, he smashes this number twelve

755
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: hundred and a half minus one twelve on the over

756
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: and the under. Now, look, I understand he gets a

757
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: lot of work in the past game as well, but boy,

758
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: What a difference for Sam Darnold to be dropped into

759
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: this offense with all these these options. DJ Moore, his

760
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: old friend Robbie Anderson, Terrace Marshall looks like a nice player.

761
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: You got McCaffrey, So I guess here's the question. Is

762
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: Carolina going to be careful with McCaffrey or is it

763
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: back to business as usual? And how does that impact

764
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: this number?

765
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: What we need to remember is the under is always

766
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: the sharp play because people want to root for things

767
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: to happen, they don't want to root against them. With

768
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: COVID as the variable here, you have to realize that

769
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: that could also play a role. Does Christian McCaffrey play

770
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: all seventeen games. It's unlikely for any running back, and

771
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about COVID. It is SUPERB twenty

772
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: nineteen season, two hundred and eighty seven carries four point

773
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: eight yards per carrie. Let's go with two hundred and

774
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: sixty carries at four point six yards per carrie, which

775
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: is still really strong. That's eleven ninety six run defenses

776
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: they face this year the Panthers, Pats, Washington, Buffalo, Tampa Bay,

777
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: and New Orleans twice. It's a great number. I think

778
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: it's right there, but I do like under A McCaffrey.

779
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what you think about Camara his

780
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: rushing total nine to fifty and a half minus one

781
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: twelve on the over under for him nine to fifty

782
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and a half. Look, they're gonna have to use Kamara

783
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: a lot, but historically it's been a lot of work

784
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: through the air. Do you think he's going to scratch

785
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: out a thousand yard season potentially here with just the

786
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: need of what they're gonna need from Alvin Kamara and

787
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: getting hold up to the amount of workload that maybe

788
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna demand of him this year. We're aready hearing

789
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: some talk about Olatavius Murray might not make the team.

790
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: I think that's madness. I don't know. I was Freeman

791
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: better than Murray. I don't know what they're doing over there.

792
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: But what do you think of this nine to fifty

793
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: and a half number when it comes to Kamara's rushing total?

794
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: Pop quiz Joe, Sure or false?

795
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara has rushed for one thousand yards in a

796
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: season in the ESL.

797
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, false, that is false? Sure or false?

798
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara has rushed for over nine hundred and forty

799
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: yards in a season.

800
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Uh, that's also false.

801
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: That is also false.

802
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: One more, but they all had Drew Brees attached to

803
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: them that well, in some capacity for the most part.

804
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: Not these last two so much that the last one, this.

805
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Will be the bonus question. Alvin Kamara has rushed for.

806
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait? Do I win for

807
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: the bonus question? Like I feel like I've I've got

808
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: the It's like the pyramid, like my eternal respect?

809
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: Is what you get? That worth more?

810
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Answer it anyway? Okay, go ahead.

811
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara has rushed for over nine hundred yards twice

812
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 2: in his four year career.

813
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: That is also false.

814
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: That is, it's only once. Whoever is the running back?

815
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be Murray or Freeman. I think

816
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: teams are going to center on Camara. He obviously is

817
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: elite in the passing game. Eighty one eighty one eighty

818
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: one eighty two receptions is four years. I am going

819
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: under on this number. He's a superior weapon. But I

820
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to get the rushing attempts. I

821
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: think he is fragile to a certain extent, which is

822
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: why they're not going to hammer it to him. And

823
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: I think we have some recency biased Joe, because I'm

824
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: a little sensitive about Alvin Kamara's six touchdown game.

825
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I know you are. Oh in our league, boy, Mike

826
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Randall had a hell of a season. Boy, he dominated.

827
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Everybody was five hundred. Not Mike Grandell, he was twelve

828
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: and two. I think going into that unde seated. I

829
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: almost beat you. I lost by a couple of points

830
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: that that one week. I wanted to be the guy

831
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: to do it to you, because if you're gonna lose,

832
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: lose to a friend, that's what I always say. I

833
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: thought you were the team and you still had a

834
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: great week, and you you should be bitter. You absolutely

835
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: should be bitter about that. I know now six six.

836
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm taking can have a great year, but still go under.

837
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look I've won your respect, which is nice.

838
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully Mike Randall's won you some money here with some

839
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: of the discussions we've had. So once again, make sure

840
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: you go over to bettingpros dot com check out those

841
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: consensus lines and if you see better numbers on anything

842
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: that we've talked about today, you say, wow, this is

843
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: even better number. I'm gonna go ahead and bet that

844
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: at MGM or fandor or DK or wherever you want

845
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: to go do that. That's what betting pros is for.

846
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: You can see all the lines at one time and

847
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: make your decisions there. And of course it's always a

848
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: good decision. To follow Mike Randall on the Twitter machine

849
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: at Randall Rant. You could check out his work in

850
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: My Fantasy Football Black Book. He did the whole way

851
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: dering section like always, because he's very smart when it

852
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: comes to that. That's why I like to have him

853
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: on the shows. And that's on Amazon. You can also

854
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: check out his work at Rodo Underworld, Rodo Viz and

855
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: the Action Network. Mike Randall, it is always a pleasure

856
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: to chat with you, my friend. Great stuff, great stats,

857
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: and I mean I've won your respect. I mean, it

858
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: doesn't get much better than.

859
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: That, nothing better than that. I owe you a beverage,

860
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: my friend. Thanks for having me there.

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Speaker 1: the story of the game goes on for Randall. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joey P. We'll see you next time. Kids,