1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Chief executive officers are of Barclays. Venkatt, thank you for 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: joining us. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. 4 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: We were just looking at the news that Quity was 5 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: bringing to us about, of course some of the attacks, 6 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't see any de escalation for 7 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the moment in geopolitics. What does this all mean for 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: how you expect markets to behave and so the impact 9 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: on banks. 10 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one of the very tough questions. 11 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: And I think if you look over the last two 12 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: years frand seeing one of the things we've seen is 13 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: wherever whenever we sat here a year ago, two years ago, 14 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: whoever sat here would have a view of how the 15 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: year would pan out, and what happened was very different. 16 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: We didn't expect the Ukraine War, we didn't expect the 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: terrorist attacks, the awful terrorist attacks in Israel last year. 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: We didn't affect the bank, expect the bank crisis. I 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: think more we should scenario plan and I think it's 20 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: going to be a bumpy year. But more than anything else, 21 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: we've got to be resilient. We've got to be prepared 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: to react to news. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: What does this mean for Barclays? 24 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: So you talked about billion in structural savings was that 25 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: your third quarter yours have an investor update February twenty 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: is what are you looking at? 27 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: So the most important thing in any bank, of course, 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: you start with a platform of strong capital, which we 29 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: have strong liquidity, good risk management, and that risk management 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: is to allow you to react to the way the 31 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: world is changing. And then on top of that, you've 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: got to run your businesses extremely well, manage your costs 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: so that you can deal with fluctuations in revenue and 34 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: produce good returns to your shareholders and to your investors ultimately. 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: And that's what our investor is about to tell people, 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: how are you going to do that? 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: So we can expect more than the one billion in 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: structural saving. We can expect something. Is it going to 39 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: be radical or is it going to be steady? 40 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: As she goes, well, we're going to have to be 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: more efficient, and that one billion in structural savings was 42 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: one part of that. And as we continue to look 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: at our businesses, we will continue to strive for efficiency, 44 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: efficiency and cost improvement in the quality and types of 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: revenue running the business. 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Well, if I get what can you tell us about 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the investment bank? So again you've been very. 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Attached to it. There's always questions about what happens to 49 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: it at Barclays. 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: So I think the investment bank has been extraordinarily successful. 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: We have had a strategy over a number of years 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: to do investment banking and to do it well, and 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: we are the leading investment bank domicile outside of the 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: United States. And what I find in my travels, especially 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: in the world and the geopolitical world in which we live, 56 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: is people are looking for a partner and a counterpart 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: who's not just a US bank, and if they had 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: to pick one, they tend to pick British banks, and 59 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: we are a strong British bank, the only British bank 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: really engaged in investment banking in its broadest sense. And 61 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: part of it is picking London. And I'm very optimistic 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: on London and the UK. London has been a global 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: financial center for three hundred years. We've been part of 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: that for three hundred years, and so I'm optimistic that 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: both our clients value that and it'll be good for UK. 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: You've got we've gone through a rough pat really. 67 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Barclays is also because of the QIA selling off their stake. 68 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Do you see it getting easier and better ahead. And 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: what kind of message do you want to give to shareholders? 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think the valuation the stock 71 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: price today does not reflect the potential of our company 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: and our capabilities, and that is the message I want 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: to give, and I want to tell people how we're 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: going to realize that potential. 75 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: And it's something that will listen again, is it? I 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: guess the question is how drastic right now do you 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: need to be or is it just an adjustment period 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: that they need to see the results. 79 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Well, certainly they need to see the results, I think 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: more than anything else, these things are a bit of adjustment, 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: a lot of hard work, a lot of persistence, and 82 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: a lot of effort, and you have to sustain it. 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions about auto financing and regulators 84 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: looking into that. 85 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: How big a deal will this be for Barclays? 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: So we have said that we've been a very small 87 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: fraction of the complaints, only about three percent if I 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: remember to the complaints. We got out of the auto 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: finance business in twenty nineteen, and we were even before 90 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: that a relatively smaller player in that business. 91 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: What do you get asked the most when you speak 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: to big shareholders. I imagine you met some of them 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: here at Devils. Do you know why the QIA actually 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: sold off the stake? 95 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to comment on individual shareholders, but 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: I do think that they are asking the questions we 97 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: aim to answer, which is, what do you think your 98 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: financial return targets are, how do you look to achieve them? 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: How do you manage to run this bank in a 100 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: sustainable way? How are you managing through the period we have? 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: And you know our financial risk management touchboard has been 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: fairly strong over a number of years. 103 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: But there are a number of questions also about the UK, 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: right the City of London, which you're bullish on, yes, 105 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: but do you know we're an election here. There's a 106 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of questions on some of the offers that the 107 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: City of London needs to put in place to really 108 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: come up front. Are they doing the right things? Are 109 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: you really confident that the UK will get better after this? 110 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: I do think UK has been doing well. Growth has 111 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: been not great, but it's not as great as the 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: US or as strong as the US, but it's stronger 113 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: than many other countries in the world. It has, as 114 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: you know, an excellent foundation of talent, of capabilities and 115 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 3: which is why it's a global financial center. I also 116 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: think the really important thing is that political risk in 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: the UK is almost less than it's ever been in 118 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: our living memories. You know, the election, whenever it happens, 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: is between two parties who are fairly similar in their 120 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: economic programs and in the way they want to approach 121 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: financial markets and the banks and the City of London. 122 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: So this is not the Labor Party versus Margaret Thatcher 123 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: from nineteen seventy nine, Right, it's a very different election. 124 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: What can jills about hiring but also layoffs this year? 125 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Is it? You know there's bonus season coming up? How 126 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: much are you focused on that? 127 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: Look, we always are in the market for very good talent. 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: We try to hire people with a very long term view. 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: At the same time, you've been hearing a lot here 130 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: about technology and productivity and efficiency, and we are looking 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: to make the bank more efficient. So we will we 132 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: will continue to manage our costs very carefully, and we 133 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: will continue to try to find the right talent for 134 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: the bank for today, for the next five years, for 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: the next ten years,