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Speaker 1: is former NFL defensive battle Eric Crocker. You can find

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Speaker 1: them on Twitter at Eric understore Crocker. Eric, how are

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Speaker 1: you man? Welcome to the show, Oh man, great man?

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Speaker 1: Ready readiant on some football? Absolutely, and we do a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft spots leading up to the draft. A

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that watch tape, but I would like

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Speaker 1: to talk to guys that played the position and can

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Speaker 1: actually relate their experiences on the field to how the

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers and dbs a little bit because obviously

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Speaker 1: you're a dB and you played against wide receiver, so

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Speaker 1: you know what gives guys trouble and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's really good point too, because that's that's

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Speaker 1: I kind of used myself as a kind of like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay standard, but I used myself as a

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Speaker 1: good that's a good point there. Yeah. Absolutely, we have

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Speaker 1: like we have David Dion and Shoonahry in the house

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Speaker 1: the guys that kind of give you the best inside

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Speaker 1: because they've done it. So let's start with this as

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Speaker 1: a dB. When you approach the wide receiver position, you

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Speaker 1: watch the guys on tape during the week, what were

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Speaker 1: the things that gave you the most trouble That the

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, like a DK Metcalf, Right, Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people they kind of pigeon holed him into this

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Speaker 1: DK metcalf they know they noticed he had really good releases,

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Speaker 1: And then also the smaller guys like the you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody makes a big deal out of like DeVante Smith

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Speaker 1: that was a six six to you know, hundred and

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Speaker 1: By the way, Eric played dB for the Jets for

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Speaker 1: start with this class. A lot of people have different

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Speaker 1: So there's one guy I haven't finalized, like my top

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Speaker 1: looking at him and I'm like, this guy is like

427
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Speaker 1: a carbon copy of Davante Adams and what Davantae Adams

428
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: brings to the packers. That's what I see and that's

429
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Speaker 1: why the ability I see and die on me Brown,

430
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 1: it's really good. Right after catch. He's physical, He'll lower

431
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: his shoulder. He does all these things like, um, you know,

432
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 1: he knows how to he don't understands leverage. Sometimes I

433
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 1: see him moving at one speed and then he knows

434
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: how to just attack the leverage and then come back

435
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: out just to make the cornerback speed turn. Like just

436
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: the little subtleties of his game. I think I think

437
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: he's very nuanced that he just couldn't see it on

438
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: full display because of the office that he was in.

439
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: I do feel like, if there's one knock on him,

440
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: I would say one thing that was like not consistent

441
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: to me was his ability to use his vertical speed

442
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 1: because he's he can run, but to use his vertical

443
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: speed as a threat on underneath routes. Sometimes he would

444
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: just kind of run one speed and get to a

445
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: spot and catch it and it's like, okay, that's cool.

446
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: But and then sometimes I see him really attack step

447
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: on the defensive back toes boom, sit it down, so

448
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: numbers and he works back to the ball better than

449
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: anybody I've seen, like maybe now the Alabama. The Alabama

450
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: receivers work back well as well, but he works back

451
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: extremely well. So he's like quarterback's best friend. There's a

452
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: couple of times against like Virginia, I watched him work

453
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 1: back to the ball like ten yards like when the comeback,

454
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: So like those are the you know, that's somebody that's

455
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: confident with his hands. His ability does a lot of

456
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: really good things. But I think he can use the

457
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: threat of that speed um on the of their vertical

458
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: speed to um work his underneath routes a little bit more.

459
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: Aside from that, I'd see a lot of big time

460
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: potential in Tommy Brown and whatever team he goes to.

461
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: I think the fans are gonna be like, WHOA, how

462
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: do we miss on this guy? One guy that I

463
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: struggle with a little bit as terrorist Marshall. I watch

464
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: him and I see the physical tools and I see

465
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: what he can be, But there's something missing to me.

466
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a burst or whatever it is. Croc,

467
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: what do you see when you look at terrorist Marshall?

468
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: Because he's six too, he runs a four three eight.

469
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: He You know, you can check every box in the

470
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Speaker 1: physical package you want, but what did you think of

471
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: when you're watching him on tape? Because that could be

472
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: a guy at the Giants don't go wide receiver in

473
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: the first round. If he falls down to forty two,

474
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 1: maybe that's a guy they could try to snack. Yeah,

475
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, he reminded me he was kind of a

476
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: mixture of a couple of guys. So um, he was

477
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: like Mohammed Sanu meets uh Marquez Valdez scantling and not

478
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: saying then right, it was like a combination of the two. Right,

479
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Like he's like this sleek mover. I thought he ran

480
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: routes well. Um, I thought he had really good feet.

481
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: Um he doesn't have like really good burst like in

482
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: and out of his brakes or anything like that. But

483
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: he definitely shows like the ability to do everything, like

484
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: he could stretch the field, whether it's from the outside

485
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: from the slot. Again, talked about his feet. I think

486
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: he has good quickness and and setting this. But I

487
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: think what you're seeing is it's kind of like that

488
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: lack of burst and you don't really see You don't

489
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: see that now. You do see, there's time you'll see

490
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: him run by a defense. I mean, I think it

491
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: was the Wake Forest or Wake Forest where he just

492
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: ran straight past everybody and caught it and ran off

493
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: to the end zone. So he has that ability, but

494
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think you see that that right now.

495
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: And you know, like you guys used to see him like,

496
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: ohdo Beckham, I don't think he has that. So I

497
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: think his placed I was more like a Layton type,

498
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I always struggled with those long striders

499
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes they fool me when they got those big steps,

500
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: you know they you know, they don't do the chop

501
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: chop chop chopping. It gets me. Sometimes He's good, though.

502
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I think he's well around it. I really liked his

503
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: ability to play in the slot and work outside. He

504
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: primarily worked outside um in the in the prior year

505
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: with Jefferson doing all the slot work, and then this

506
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: year he moved to where they just used doing wherever

507
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: they can give him the ball, and I thought his

508
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: protection was off to charge terrific in the seven games

509
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: before opting out Um. I think he's He's another guy

510
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of rounding out my top five top six.

511
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: I I like him enough to have him in that

512
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: range over some of the other guys where people are like,

513
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, like rondal Moore and you know, Uhlijah More.

514
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Alias More plays like fast enough for me.

515
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: He runs fast when we usually watch him, he doesn't

516
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: really use the threat of that speed like enough for

517
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: somebody who is more of a speed guy. Alright, final

518
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: question on the wider series before we jumped to the DVS.

519
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of guys already Rohndom More, Aliging More,

520
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the Shy Smith, um monroz st Brown,

521
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: um Can Darius, Tony, Dwayne Eskridge. To an extent, you

522
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: got all these guys that are, you know, basically gonna

523
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: play the slot right and and they all kind of

524
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: like the smaller stature type of wide receivers. They got speed,

525
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: they got quickness, which guys from that group stick out

526
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: to you above the others because it's just that, you know,

527
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: how it is. There's a million five eleven guys that

528
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: run a four four four now coming out of college

529
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: every year. That just is especially when no combines just exactly. Um,

530
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the Escras kids yet. He's from like

531
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Western Michigan, right, Yeah, I've seen clips. Definitely looks explosive.

532
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: I've just seen people kind of like Jim Naggy tweet

533
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: out the video and like they're do skating out there,

534
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: like you can tell you just naturally fast. But I

535
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: haven't watched anything else on them. In again, I don't

536
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: watch highlights, so I haven't like looked into a time

537
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I get my analysis. But um, the other guys, I think,

538
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: I think Moore is kind of special. I think he

539
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: has some special stuff from the excuse me, Ron Delmore. Um,

540
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: I know he's only five seven, but um, I think

541
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: just in the role that he could play, he has

542
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: a nice e quickness setting this twitch. I watched him

543
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: as a true freshman against um, what's the kid in between?

544
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: Four from uh Wade from Ohio State and he just

545
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: killed him. And he killed him with just that nice

546
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: quick twitch setting is. Um, he's really strong. I don't

547
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: think he minds at all, you know, going over the middle.

548
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: He can catch a pass, take some punishment, and we've

549
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: seen him run off for a touchdowns. Like I mean,

550
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: he does all these little things like what I want

551
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: from today's slot, the ability to take the end of

552
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: rounds and do the jet sweeps and all that. Use

553
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: him in that manner. I think he's definitely a utility

554
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: guy like a Deebo Samuel, but we're even more upside

555
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: as a burner as a pure burner. So with him,

556
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: I think you just need to keep him healthy. I

557
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: think that's what people say one of his issues is

558
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: aside from only being five ft seven, But I think

559
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: as as just a receiver like you look at as

560
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: a receiver and what he can be as a slot

561
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: for your team, I think he's he can be big

562
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: time really working over that that area. UM. Now, obviously

563
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: in college sometimes it's a little hard to evaluate pure

564
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: like him the only line up in the slot because

565
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: all their matchups are more favorable linebackers. UM. Yeah, the

566
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: mess because linebackers, safeties, there's a lot of space. And

567
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: then when you're just that quick and twitchy, when you

568
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: go back to the Ohio State, you see the impress

569
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Speaker 1: let's let's jump over the cornerback now. I was all

588
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: on the Kalib Farley bandwagon until this last injury. And

589
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: now you know the A C L two backs. I'm

590
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm freaked out and I'm off. But if you take

591
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: those injuries out of the mix, I've never seen a

592
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: guy with makeup speed like that. You see wide receivers

593
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: run by him and he just turns on the jets, closes,

594
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: catches up those all that stuff. How did you how

595
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: do you view the top of this cornerback class? And

596
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: you can throw Farley into the mix too. Is always

597
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: healthy with Horns or Tan Farley and those guys. So

598
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: so it's tough because Farley I see him as clearly

599
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: someone who has freakish upside, like it's just like freakis

600
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: his ability. You talked about his ability to close on

601
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: the ball in the air to me. Someone asked me like, well,

602
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: who does it remind you? And I'm like, man, I

603
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: can't really think of anybody except for Deon Sanders, And

604
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw that name out lightly, right,

605
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's Deon Sanders, just with his

606
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: coverage ability when that balls in the air, and the

607
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: way he's able to explode, the way he attacks the

608
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: ball in the air, like those type of those type

609
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: of ball skills, the way he does that, that looks

610
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: like Dean Sanders. Aside from that, I thought with Farley

611
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: he was just far too inconsistent a lot of it.

612
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: I think it's just like him being a little green.

613
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Everybody like it's like, oh, he just perfect, like shutdown.

614
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he's not a shutdown corner yet. Now

615
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: maybe he can be. I know, he's a little raw

616
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: in the sense of um. I think it was like

617
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: a high school quarterback. I want to say receiving for

618
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: two years that I was a receiver when he first

619
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: got to Virginia Tech. Then went over the corner, so

620
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of new to it. In corner.

621
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of feel that comes with that position,

622
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: like you have to you start feeling things and and

623
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: having to feel for how receiving round routes and understanding

624
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: when to sit things down. So once he gets that,

625
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: then we start talking as okay, I see, So somebody

626
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: might take him first or before they're backing. I don't know.

627
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm scared of the back injury as well. But before that,

628
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: somebody might take him first. I didn't have him as

629
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: my like my number one guy. But if you ask

630
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: me who has the highest upside of anybody in this group,

631
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: I would say him. And if he's like the best

632
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: corner in the NFL in three years, I wouldn't be surprised. Um.

633
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot of risk there, but ghost reward. UM.

634
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I love j C. Horn so that that's been my

635
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: CB one when I really since I really started diving

636
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: into guys. Um. I just think his his mentality. He

637
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: has these things that you can't teach with the way

638
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: that he approaches the game. And that's the hard part

639
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. They want to know, like

640
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, this guy was a bus or

641
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: this guy was a bus. A lot of times that

642
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: the teams didn't evaluate the talent wrong, they evaluated the person.

643
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: And you know, if he's gonna work hard once he

644
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: gets money, how is he gonna be you know, Um?

645
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Is he an alpha? Got well? Is he soft? How's

646
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: he gonna respond to adversity? And when you look at J. C. Warne,

647
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: he exemplifies everything that you want and like a CB one.

648
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: You know, everybody points to the Auburn game. That wasn't

649
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: the game plan. Hey you go take Seth Seth Seth Williams.

650
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: That was him saying, I'm guarding Seth Williams, Like, let

651
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: me put me on him. That's there, that's their guy.

652
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Put me on him. And guys that go out of

653
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: their way to to to like just do what's best

654
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: for the team and feel like, hey, I got this

655
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: ability and I can I can eat this dude up.

656
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: And he did. He made it rough on him. I

657
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: know people talk about his ball skills, whatever his cover skills.

658
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: What stands out most to me, He's able to cover

659
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: any type of receiver. I thought he did a good

660
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: job on Elijah More which guys like him that are

661
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: six ft six one two hundred five pounds, I thought,

662
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: just harder to mirror mass guys in the slot there

663
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: are five nine hundred and eighty pounds and around four

664
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: or threes. I thought he guarded him. I thought he

665
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: did very well. Now some people might point to the

666
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Alabama game the year prior. I thought he struggled a

667
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: little bit with DeVonta Smith. I think Devontae Mr Best

668
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Stiver in the last two years, So like, Okay, he's

669
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: struggle what what this Smith? I get it, like, But

670
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: even then, and when I say struggled there, everybody might

671
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: point to the slant route that went for a touchdown.

672
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I thought he was there. He looked like he maybe

673
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: peaked and then it was over. But um, there were

674
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: some other things that I watched from that game that

675
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: you can probably only see on All twenty two because

676
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: it was a way from the ball. But I just

677
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: noticed that he was a little too worried about DeVante

678
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Smith going vertical and he was playing too far upfield shoulder.

679
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith was sent roused down and and he kept

680
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: drifting up field. So that was one thing I know

681
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: and I know. But then there's other players in that

682
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: game where he's playing off coverage against against the DeVante

683
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Smith is extremely hard nice back. Puddal gets out of

684
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: his break, boom punches the ball out, you know, for

685
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. So you're like, Okay, I'm seeing them

686
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: compete from off coverage press. Obviously he lost some rest,

687
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: but he's still competing. Then there's a player on the

688
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: goal line where he was communicating when everybody getting everybody

689
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: set up, and then they tried to hilo him. He

690
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: took away the flat route, fifth his hips knocked the

691
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: way the corner route. Like you see him start doing

692
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: those things and just understanding what his mentality is and

693
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: what you see consistently on film. It's hard to see

694
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: say that there's somebody better than him in this class

695
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: or that project better at the next level and then

696
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: my next guy. I know everybody likes Chertaining a whole lot,

697
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: but I really like Greg Newsome. Now his injuries, that's

698
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: another thing I don't know. You know, I'm not a

699
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor or anything medical staff, but just

700
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: the film like he I think he's the most well rounded,

701
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: most scheme versatile corner in his class. His ability to

702
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: play press is pretty much just as good as anybody else.

703
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I might not be as consistent as certain certain makes

704
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: it look really easy, but um, for the most part,

705
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: like his press is really good. I did a terrific

706
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: job reading guys down and not being scared of uh,

707
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the vertical threat from receivers. I thought he did a

708
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: really good job with his feet. I thought from off

709
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: coverage he was just as good as he was press coverage,

710
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: which I'm watching him again, I don't look at height, weight,

711
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: measurables or anything. I'm looking at him on film and

712
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is a five eighty pound guy.

713
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: He's six ft one ninety two or whatever. You know,

714
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: that's what he messes in there, and something like dang,

715
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: he has a size. He moves like a small guy.

716
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: And any time you move like a small guy, that's

717
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: definitely a plus for somebody that has legit size like

718
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: he does. So his ability to play off and challenge

719
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: himself in speed, in space and day with his feet,

720
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: that was terrific. Um playing the ball at the catch point,

721
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: no matter the size of receiver, that was terrific. Can

722
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: be a little grabby, but in secting with horn, I

723
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: don't mind the grabbiness as much. I know some people do,

724
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: but it's like receivers push off, you gotta grab sometimes

725
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: like it's just a battle. You're more likely to get

726
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: flagged as a cornerback, but it just kind of is

727
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: what it is. It's a tough position to play whatever.

728
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: So he has some flags, um whatever, but just his

729
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: pure ability. I loved his game. Again, most scheme versatile

730
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: corner in this class in my opinion, too. And what

731
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean by that is he can go play for

732
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the Broncos, he can go play for the forty Niners,

733
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: he can go play for the Giants. No matter what

734
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: your scheme is, cover four scheme, cover three, press bill scheme,

735
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: he can play in it. So I really liked him

736
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: a lot. It's certaining. I'll touch on certain real quick.

737
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Why I'm not as high. I mean I'm high, clearly

738
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: I have him at like CP three, right. I really

739
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like his ability. Um, I think he's probably the most

740
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: consistent press corner I've seen in recent years. He lacks

741
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: that suddenness and twitchiness. You there are a lot of

742
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: people that were questioning his speed and I was telling people, no,

743
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: it's not his speed, that that's not what you guys

744
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: are seeing a lack of. And they're like, oh, well

745
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: the direction, Yeah, it's his change of direction. Is his

746
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: quickness is twitchiness, that's what you're seeing a lack of there.

747
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, I would have liked

748
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: to see him against his receivers, like, let me see

749
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: you against the watch this, let me see that, let

750
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: me see that practice film you against Jerry Judy. I

751
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: think just his suddenness is Twitter like he moves at

752
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: one speed all the time. So again I think he's

753
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a terrific prospect. I'd expect him. I mean,

754
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: if he went it was the first corner of taking off,

755
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all. Um. Again, a lot

756
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: of my rankings go more off my preference and not

757
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: what every how everybody else should think. But when I

758
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: watch him terrific Prescott, I just think from off coverage.

759
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: I was watching him in the Bill, I didn't think

760
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: he was really anticipating and reading down routes uh very

761
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: well and reacting to it right now. Um, I thought,

762
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: if he's playing like Cover two, yeah, he could. He

763
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: clicking clothing and die those things in front of him

764
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: very well, closed, make tackles. He's a physical, aggressive tackler.

765
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, But I just I would like to

766
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: see a little bit more setting this twitchiness from him.

767
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: But definitely I thought he played and he played a

768
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: lot in the Nickel too, like in previous years. Um

769
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: there was a game like Dookey playing for Mary like

770
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: in the Nickel, So he has that aspect, but even

771
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: then the Nickel, how he has to play Obama in comparison,

772
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: to how they'll ask him play in the NFL. Two

773
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: totally different things. Now, I'm with you. I agree everything

774
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: you said about certain he's not manning up some five

775
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: eleven quick slot receiver in the NFL. It's just not ideally.

776
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's and I'm not gonna say he can't,

777
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: but that's not an ideal matchup for him. Yeah, I'm

778
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: with hi. I'm with you on that. I want to

779
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: go back to Horn for a second. Two things. One,

780
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: I agree you're not gonna find a guy that can

781
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: in one game cover Alijah More and then the next

782
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: game go cover Kyle Pitts and actually cover both guys

783
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: do a pretty good job. Right, That's not gonna happen

784
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: very often. You mentioned the grabbiness because that is one

785
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed and other people have to. Is

786
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: that something you can coach out of a guy a

787
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: little bit because there's all legal contact in college? Is

788
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you know you do have that in the NFL? Is

789
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: that something once a defensive bass coaching league gets his

790
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: hands on him with his physical traits? I think he

791
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: tested time on all his testing in his pro day. Again,

792
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: it's not combine, it's pro day. It's different, but still

793
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: can you coach that out of him giving his physical

794
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: gifts where he's not a guy that has to grab

795
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: to stay with these guys, it's just something that he does.

796
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: I think he has to do more with the training. Um,

797
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Like in the off season. I think everybody thinks like

798
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: these NFL guys they get to the like or these

799
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: kids coming from college go to the NFL and it's

800
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: like they're gonna develop you. But at the NFL level,

801
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: they really focus more on developing your mind. Like they

802
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: want to do whatever they have to do to get

803
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: you on the field to be able to get you

804
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: ready for the next game. Um, the your trainers in

805
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: the off season, the guys that work with you there,

806
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: like that's gonna focus in more on your technique and

807
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: creating good habits. So when it comes to j C. Horne,

808
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: he's working with Oliver Davis. He's this terrific defensive back trainer.

809
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: He's out of like Atlanta. Um, he's doing an awesome job,

810
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: not just working with him, but I mean Eric Stokes,

811
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: I watched him working with Jalen Ramsey. Then you have

812
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: more and working with Jalen Ramsey like you know just um,

813
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you know but it's it's that like just getting him

814
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: to trust his feet and work with your feet more

815
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: to get you in position to use your hands. I

816
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: think once he does that and gets consistent at that,

817
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: that that's when you'll see him maybe stop being as

818
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: grabby and depending more on you know, oh, let me

819
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: grab to get him in position. It's like, no, trust

820
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: your feet, you got to speed. Like even before that

821
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: that that pro day forty, like I thought he was

822
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: gonna be a you know, a four or four five guy.

823
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: So you know, like that's fine, that's more than fast enough,

824
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: um explosive player. So yeah, I think he's gonna be

825
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: fine there. But I think that the work to stop

826
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: being as grabby it starts in your off season training

827
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: with like a personal guy. NFL they prepare you more

828
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: to get in the game. Can you talk about the

829
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: mental adjustin because we've seen some really good college cornerbacks

830
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: Jeffrey O. Coodle last year, for example. I mean, you

831
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: watch him, you couldn't find much wrong with the guy.

832
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: So he struggled at this first year. So Someboddy described

833
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: it to me, going from corner in college to playing

834
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: corner in the pros is like trying to drink water

835
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: out of a fire hose. There's just so much coming

836
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: at you, and you it's just hard to take everything

837
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: in mecuse it's so much more complicated. What is that

838
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: transition like? And why do you even the best college

839
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: corners have a bit of a slower process than other

840
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: positions trying to play that spot in the pros? Oh?

841
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: Man um, so oh it's it's difficult. So when I

842
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: got to the Jets, right, I'm coming from a division

843
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: to school where we primarily play like a couple of

844
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: coverages cover three and like cover one right right, Well,

845
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: there wasn't like a whole lot of versatility with it.

846
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: And then you get to and then I went to

847
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: the ring the league, so you have happage is a

848
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: totally different game. And I get to the NFL, I

849
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: get to the New York Jets and Rence Ryan. It

850
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: was everything and just the verbal part of it. It's

851
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: difficult if it's not something that you've heard, so you

852
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: have to learn that part of it. Then you have

853
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: to understand that there's like each I've reached, you play

854
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a certain thing a different way. So whether I'm in man,

855
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I played this stack a different way. If I'm in zone,

856
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I played the stack a different way, and even though

857
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: the zone is different, because if it's a fire zone,

858
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: I played this way. If it's sky I played this way.

859
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: And you have to be able to um figure these

860
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: things out right now, because it can be something and

861
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: you're lined up and there's two guys there and you're like, okay,

862
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm good. But then the back motions to one side.

863
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: That changes things. Then the guy motions over. It makes

864
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: it uh, three guys in the stack, and then that

865
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: changes things, and and it the ball snap and you're

866
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: like okay, and you have to kind of remember like okay,

867
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: well wait no, not man, this is no this is

868
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: fire zone. So they don't have to so you have

869
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: to really get down that part of it um. And

870
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: I think that's the most difficult part. Now. For me,

871
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: it might have been more difficult because I went to

872
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: a Division two and then the real league now I'm

873
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: coming into the verbage is totally different. For Kuda, I

874
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't think the Lions were a good fit for him,

875
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: and I was saying that before, like if I'm the Lions,

876
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: don't take him. Really. If I'm the Lions and I

877
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: want to do things with Akuda, like I did with

878
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Darius Slay and they have. They put a lot of

879
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: responsibility on slave, but I'm gonna put those same type

880
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: of that that's not a coudest game. Let him play

881
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: on the outside, let him press from there, or let

882
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: him um press bill read concepts down. I thought watching

883
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: his film he he played press bill and reading concepts

884
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: from there as well. As it looked like Josh Norman

885
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: in that that Super Bowl round with the Panthers, like

886
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: it was next level. Have him do that. I didn't

887
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: think he was a guy that I want, like, and

888
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: you're just gonna match on this guy. I'm gonna line

889
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: you up anywhere in the slot on the outside, and

890
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna consistently exhale from there. And so if I'm

891
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the lines, like, I think you're the guy you wanted.

892
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: Was Henderson. Now we'll see how the lines are just

893
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: And they got a new staff coming in and everything,

894
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: and Glenn Aaron Glenn, I want to say the defensive coordinator,

895
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I think for there now, Yeah, I think I think

896
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: that sounds right. Yeah, yeah, And he was he was

897
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: a scout when I was with the Jets. He wasn't

898
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: even like a coach. He was just a scout, so

899
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I had conversations with him, but um, we'll see what

900
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: he brings to the table in the sense of like

901
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: the coverages, I know, if it's anything like they ran

902
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: in in New Orleans. And I know he was just

903
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: defensive back coach a lot of times, if you're just

904
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: just a DV coach, you don't have a whole lot

905
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: of input on the scheme. You just coach you guys

906
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: up for the scheme that your DC hasn't played. I

907
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: think they've run a lot more like two man and

908
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I think even then, I think

909
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I think a Couda would be solid in that. Well,

910
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: we'll see, but he's definitely gonna have to adjust and

911
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: work on some of the you know, different parts of

912
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the game. I really like the Couda, but I just

913
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: didn't think that was a great spot for him coming out.

914
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: And I'd be weird drafting the corner of the top

915
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: three anyways, unless he's like, you know, they're just way

916
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: different than anything we've seen. Yeah, you're right, and you're right,

917
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Akudo House. They played a lot more you know, outside leverage,

918
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: cover three, read the quarterback off coverage, all that stuff.

919
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm exhaled that he played that so well, really good

920
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: at that. All right, let's let's go to this next

921
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: group now, So if the Giants are picking up forty two,

922
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that next group of corners the Eric

923
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Stokes is and you can throw the slot guys and

924
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: if you want the assante Samuel's I don't look you

925
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: like Stokes his teammate. Who do you like in that

926
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: next group of corners after you get past those top

927
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: four that we already talked about, who I think we

928
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: all none of us believe those guys are gonna last

929
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: past pick forty Yeah. So so Stokes is very intriguing

930
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: because he's very explosive athlete. But I know in my

931
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: notes and then my breakdown um I did on my

932
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Patreon account, I noted that I knew he was an

933
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: explosive athlete, but only because when I did like a

934
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: little bit of research on him, I noticed that he

935
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: was a hundred and two hundred meter state champ in

936
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: high school, so I knew he was a ten three guy.

937
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: But I was saying, hey, I don't think he plays

938
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: as explosive as he'll probably test, and he tested extremely

939
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: will Now I think he can challenge himself more like

940
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: when you I didn't have that speed. I was six

941
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: six two guy. I was a four or five five guy.

942
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: You know, I had to play everything a little bit

943
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: more honest him, it's like, no, you can. You can

944
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: challenge yourself more like they're not gonna run by you.

945
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Challenge your speed, challenge your ability to change direction. And

946
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I thought he could have did a better job than

947
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: at that. Now maybe he just doesn't have it in

948
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: them to do that. But if you can't get him

949
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: to trust his speed more, then you have a terrific

950
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: cornerbacks cornerback prospect. But he just has to trust that

951
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: aspect more. I think Campbell he's another guy that was

952
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna test what I think. He was like the state

953
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: hundred meter and two hundred meter state champion like Florida.

954
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: So he played and he played high school football with

955
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: like UH certain Marco Wilson and that receiver, the speedy

956
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: guy from UH Auburn. They were all at high school together. Um,

957
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: he's another guy who I think even with both him

958
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: and and Stokes, I think that's their their their pressed

959
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: ability is terrific um and I think they challenge things

960
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: extremely well. But challenge yourself a little more. And I

961
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: think Stokes has a little bit better natural feat than Campbell.

962
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Campbell moves. If I had to guess watching this film

963
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: on like what I would as his height weight was,

964
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I'd be like six two two or five. That's how

965
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: you moved. You don't want to move like the six

966
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: two two or five though, you know what I'm saying.

967
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: And he measured in that six ninety, I'm like, uh,

968
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: I need, I need why, why the why the why

969
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: are you and the kid Greg Newsom the same size?

970
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: But he moves much better, So I need you know

971
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: the fluidity. It's not quite there. But as a day

972
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: two guy, I think he's terrific. Um. I think he'll

973
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: be a solid corner in the NFL. And then there's

974
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: a guy who I don't know if he'll go day

975
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: two or I'll assume you go day two at some point, um,

976
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: but not sure a third round or second round. But

977
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Benjamin st Juice out of Minnesota. He's intriguing because he

978
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: he When I watched him, I'm like, oh man, this

979
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: thinks like a Killer Witherspoon. But I thought he had

980
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: more natural aggressiveness than the Killer. But for somebody at

981
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: six three, two hundred pounds. I thought he had good

982
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: feet from off coverage. They played a ton of quarters

983
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: with him, and so he had to challenge himself in

984
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: space that I did really a good job getting in

985
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: and out of his brakes, not taking too many waste

986
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: of steps. He played a little bit longer, but he's like,

987
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're six three pounds, Like, what are

988
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Um? But you know his ability to

989
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: be aggressive at the lime scream and us his hands

990
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: or sometimes just use his feet again position I thought

991
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: he did that well. Um, there was a playoff saw

992
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: and that like that challenge his hips because I'm really

993
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: big on like, okay, well how's this fluid d and

994
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback through the ball away? But he was running

995
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: this way and when the quarterback through the way, he

996
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: quickly flipped his hips and ran that way. Those are

997
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: the things I kind of pay attention to. But I'm like, oh,

998
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I like that. I noted that I put that in

999
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: my breakdown to him. But you know, those are the

1000
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: little things. I like him a lot. If I don't

1001
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: know if you'll go in the top forty, but if

1002
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: a team took him in that range, I wouldn't be

1003
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: mad at that. I got two kind of more generic

1004
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: questions now for quarters, And this goes back to kind

1005
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: of our discussion on Olkuta. How much should teams be

1006
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: drafting these cornerbacks based on how they want to use them? Now?

1007
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: Because to me, the skill sets if you want a

1008
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: guy to play cover one compared if you want the

1009
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: guy to play off you know, the ball on the

1010
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: cover three or zone. You know, I feel like the

1011
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: skill set you're asking for can be very different based

1012
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: on the scheme you're playing. So how much do teams

1013
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: really need to customize how they eventually, you know, rank

1014
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: and stack these players on their boards based on how

1015
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: they want to use a relative to the skill set

1016
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: to these players. Yeah, I think it's all about like

1017
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: how you plan on using them, you know, because you

1018
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: can look at not the awesome while on the Raiders

1019
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh man, this is a shutdown dude.

1020
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Like he's just shut down, like camp missed, like wow,

1021
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: And then he goes to a different scheme in Philadelphia

1022
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: and it just does not work. It looks like one

1023
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: of the worst corners in the league. Then the Niners

1024
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: get them and put him in Fangio's defense and that

1025
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: doesn't work for him, like that's not who he is.

1026
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: So I think scheme definitely matters. Um, That's why I

1027
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: talked about like Greg Newsom. I'm saying, like, the most

1028
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: scheme versa little corner in this class because now you

1029
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: can take somebody like him and it doesn't matter what

1030
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: schame he fits in it. But there are some other

1031
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: guys that, again, they're definitely gonna be a little bit

1032
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: more scheme dependent and uh, but I think that should

1033
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: be a big part of your evaluation, like how does

1034
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: this guy fit in with what I do? Now? You know,

1035
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: different positions like quarterbacks. Like quarterbacks, I feel like Office

1036
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Cordiner should be good enough to be like, no, like,

1037
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: let me create my offense around this guy like this quarterback.

1038
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: But corners, you know, defensive coordinators, they're gonna run their

1039
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: scheme and do the things that they want to do

1040
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna veer too far away from that.

1041
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: So I definitely think, yeah, you know, you don't just

1042
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: draft a corner because you feel like, oh man, he's

1043
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: just really talented. You know, you if you draft J. C.

1044
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Warren and put him in in the wrong scheme you know,

1045
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: people gonna be like, damn, you said he was the

1046
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: best corner in his class, where I'm like, well, I

1047
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: didn't tell him to play him like that. I ain't

1048
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: tell the Broncos to draft him. So you know those

1049
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: are things too that you know you gotta like. Like,

1050
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a bit like if I'm picking eighth

1051
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: or ninth and I'm the Broncos, no Broncos do not

1052
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: take him. And if I'm the Broncos, I would take

1053
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: news him before I take Horn, even though I like

1054
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Horn much more. So. Yeah, the scheme I think definitely matters,

1055
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: all right. The final question, I'm not trying to discount

1056
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: the importance because if you use it right to the

1057
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: point before, and you leverage it right, it's the ultimate weapon.

1058
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: But the more and more I watch and I see

1059
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: how the NFL is becoming a league where you almost

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Speaker 1: win as much horizontally as you do vertically, Croc, I

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Speaker 1: feel like the change of direction stuff is so important now,

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Speaker 1: and I think you are seeing to some extent, some

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Speaker 1: of these positions shrinking a little bit, and guys linebackers

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Speaker 1: getting faster and quicker. Right where receivers coming out, they're

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Speaker 1: faster and quicker. How much for you as someone that

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Speaker 1: played the position, is that hip flexibility that change the

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Speaker 1: direction really becoming king of the mound even more than

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Speaker 1: that straight ahead speed. Yeah. I think ultimately it depends

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Speaker 1: on just again, like how you are going to use

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Speaker 1: this guy. Now, if this is gonna be a guy

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Speaker 1: that you planned on saying, hey, I might have you

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Speaker 1: do some matchup stuff. And if you have to plan

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Speaker 1: a slot, especially somebody I had might have to line

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Speaker 1: up in the slot. At times when you're in the slot,

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Speaker 1: this is difficult. You have people, the receivers have two

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Speaker 1: way goes, and there's a lot of space. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you you you get, you get caught up in space

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Speaker 1: with a guy and you're a little tight hit. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's not really gonna look good. Think of Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 1: I think Richard Sherman had done a tremendous job on it.

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Speaker 1: He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He should be

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Speaker 1: one of the best corners of my generation. But I

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Speaker 1: don't want to line him up in the slot. You

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Speaker 1: know this, Richard Sherman, It's like, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: good over here? This press bill. I can read concepts

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Speaker 1: let me let me do that. He you know, when

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Speaker 1: they did start matching him up. He can match up

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Speaker 1: with a certain style of guy, but he can't you know,

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Speaker 1: des Bryant. I think he did. He did good peat

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Speaker 1: with de Bryant in the slot. Odell Beckham no like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see O'Dell going to slide and Richard Sherman going there

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Speaker 1: with him. So so you know again, um, I think

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Speaker 1: that that that that ability to really have the change

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Speaker 1: of direction and everything. It depends on who some god. Again,

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Speaker 1: I keep going back Greg news from I wouldn't mind,

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Speaker 1: but I I think he has this defeat and the

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Speaker 1: speed and everything. There are other guys too, you know

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Speaker 1: in the corner. I didn't mention Kelvin Joseph. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot about his film that I did not like,

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Speaker 1: but his ability is not one of them. I think

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Speaker 1: he has to really get better with his eyes. I

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Speaker 1: thought his eyes made him late on driving on on um,

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Speaker 1: on receivers um he is out at the top of

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Speaker 1: the break, he get his eyes back to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and sometimes not even drive the man. But but his ability,

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Speaker 1: I think you can line him up anywhere I think

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Speaker 1: his feet are are terrific changes direction. I think he

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Speaker 1: like he looks like a terrific athlete. But his eyes

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Speaker 1: are just bad. But he's somebody who is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if I if I want to line him up outside,

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Speaker 1: I think he's fine there, line him up inside, He's

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Speaker 1: fine there. He just has to get better with his

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Speaker 1: eyes and what he's doing mentally. All right, crock tell

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Speaker 1: the folks where they can fund your work and everything

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Speaker 1: that's up too. Yeah, you guys can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Eric Underscore Crocker. Um. I also have their

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Speaker 1: Croper Report with a bunch of my guys. Man, I

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Speaker 1: have a great team. They put out great content. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a podcast if you guys go to a crop

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Speaker 1: report um at crop Report on Twitter. Bunch of good

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Speaker 1: like content on this stuff from a great team. I

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Speaker 1: got dp NFL does an amazing job there, my guy

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Speaker 1: John Havler, Like those dudes are killing it. And then um,

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Speaker 1: and then I have my Patreon account with all these

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Speaker 1: things I'm talking about on these breaks on these breakdowns,

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Speaker 1: if you guys, uh subscribe to my Patreon, Patreon dot

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Speaker 1: com slash croc Talk, you can actually see like the

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Speaker 1: visual of everything that I'm talking about right now, pretty

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Speaker 1: much on every prospect we've discussed so far. You guys,

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Speaker 1: can you guys see all that broken down? So um,

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Speaker 1: that's where you guys can find me. Great stuff, man,

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Speaker 1: great getting to know your great talking. Let's do it

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Speaker 1: again next year leading up to the draft and stay

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Speaker 1: safe at them my man. Thank you, yes, sir, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you for having me on. That's Eric Crocker, they call

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Speaker 1: him Croc. He joins us today on Giant Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. It's All the Giants podcast Now.

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Speaker 1: For Croc, I'm schmilk. We'll see you next time. Everybody,