1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Ny called me Ben. We are joined as always with 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: our super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: want you to know. If you are listening, fellow conspiracy realist. 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: On the evening this publishes, May I be the first 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: to say Happy Halloween. That's right, guys, it's. 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: October thirty first, Yes, yeah, when this is coming out 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: as you are hearing this, I think we will be 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: well on the way to hang in with our pals 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: Langston and David at their live show. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: My mama told me here in Atlanta. So if you're 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: hearing this early enough and you happen to be in Atlanta, 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: dig come say hi at the show. They're at a 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: Facebook City Winery. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: It's where our offices used to be in Pont City Market. 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Correct shares the parking lot. Yes, pro tip on that 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: one taken Uber. We also we're also excited to share 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: us some correspondence we've been looking forward to for quite 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: some time. We'll have a brief Complaint Department letter from home. 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: We're going to talk a little bit more in depth 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: about a satellite we mentioned earlier this week. We're going 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: to get into some weird software, the Chinese variety. But 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: before we do any of that, NOL, there's something a 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist put on your radar. 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: Yes, indeed on our radar for sure. And we're going 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: to hear from Beth W. When we come back from 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: this quick word, and we're back with a message from 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: Beth W. Hipping us to a quite disturbing story, the 35 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: kind of thing that would not feel out of place 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: on like an episode of American Horror Story or something 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: along those lines. And not to make light of this 38 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 5: type of tragedy at all, it's just the level of 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: macabre ness of the story really does kind of make 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 5: your mind wander in those directions. 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 6: So a little bit of a trigger warning here. 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: This does involve a pretty disturbing death of a young 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 5: woman in Halifax, Nova, Scotia. And here comes Beth's note, Hey, guys, 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: maybe for your strange news segment. Aha, we preempted it 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 5: by putting it on our listener mail segment to honor you, Bell, 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 5: you could share that an employee of a Halifax Nova 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: Scotia Walmart died and what appears to be an incident 48 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: where she was baked alive inside the bakery oven on 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 5: Saturday nights. 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 6: As we read this, this would have been last week. 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: Very perplexing as these usually have fail saves allowing an 52 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: employee to get out while inside and the door is 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: don't automatically locked when shut, it needs to be manually 54 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: turned on. You can definitely use my name and info 55 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: on air. BETHW Did you guys heard about this? 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: I did. I heard that it had happened, but I 57 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: was honestly too nervous to read the article because this 58 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: sounds like a true horror story as you're saying, and 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: couldn't be a better day to be talking about it. 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: No, it's very true, and our thoughts are with the 61 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: mother of this young woman, who, unfortunately and even more disturbingly, 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: was the one who found her daughter after having been 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: exposed to this horrific situation that took her life. 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 6: So young too, absolutely nineteen years old. 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: Halifax Regional police have now released more details about the 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: workplace death of a nineteen year old woman at Walmart. 67 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 5: The woman this is coming from by the way CBC 68 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 5: article written by staff. The woman, who was an employee 69 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 5: of the store, was found in a large oven belonging 70 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: to the store's bakery department. A Lease said in a 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: news release on Tuesday afternoon. The investigation has not reached 72 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 5: a point where cause and manner of death have been confirmed, 73 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: and they have not released her name. There is information 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 5: floating around that this woman and her mother are members 75 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: of the Sikh community and had actually moved to Halifax, 76 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: Nova Scotia from India to kind of start a new life. 77 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: That's all we have currently as far as their identities 78 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: and their community background. Sources have told CBC News that 79 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: the oven bakery or does not lock. It is a 80 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: commercial oven, commercial model that is large enough for a 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 5: human being to step inside for mass bakings of bread and. 82 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 6: Pastries and what have you, a commercial kitchen situation. 83 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: A statement from a Walmart spokesperson said that the store 84 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 5: has been temporarily closed while we cooperate fully with the investigation. 85 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: This is from Amanda Moss, who is a representative of Walmart. 86 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 5: She said that employees will continue to be paid for 87 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 5: their shifts they have been scheduled to work while the 88 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: store is closed. In an email to CBC, she said, 89 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: we will consider alternate work arrangements in the event the 90 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 5: store remains closed for longer than anticipated period of time. 91 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: The Provincial Department of Labor said that it was providing 92 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 5: twenty four to seven virtual care to employees, including grief 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: counseling and trauma counseling at an off site location. There 94 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: have been tributes to the young woman. Balbears seeing Is, 95 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: the secretary of the Maritime Seek Society, said on Tuesday 96 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 5: that they the organization has been in touch with the 97 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: mother of the nineteen year old girl and again had 98 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: learned those details of their immigrating from India to Canada 99 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: around three years ago. Her statement reads, it's a really 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: tragic incident. Everybody is deeply hurt by this and we 101 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: were waiting for the police investigation to come out. Constable 102 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: Martin Cromwell said of the investigation that it is complex. 103 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: We just want to encourage the public be patient with 104 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: our investigation, to be mindful that there are family members 105 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: and co workers involved, and there was another piece that 106 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: I found by Rebecca Lao writing for the Global News 107 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: that indicated. 108 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: What I had said. The mother of the young woman 109 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 6: is who actually found her. 110 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: It says here in that piece of quote, a young 111 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: beautiful girl who came to Canada with big dreams. Is 112 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 5: how a nineteen year old Halifax Walmart employees being remembered 113 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: as her friends and family struggle with the devastating details 114 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: of her death. A lot of this information is again 115 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: coming from the maritime seek community. The officials involved in 116 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 5: the investigation have urged members of the public and employees 117 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: fellow employees at the Walmart to not be tempted to 118 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: read into Internet rumors. As we know in a situation 119 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: like this has been often says in the absence of facts, 120 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: speculation thrives, So that. 121 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 6: Is absolutely happening. 122 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: I found a pretty robust Reddit page citing some of 123 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: the articles that I mentioned, and with a lot of 124 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: folks chiming in about the preventable nature of this death. 125 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: One user wrote in I work in a bakery with 126 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: a walk at oven. It should have been unplugged before cleaning. 127 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: There is also a handle release on the inside. This 128 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: is absolutely a preventable track. A couple that were really 129 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: stood out to me. Again, I hate that I just said, 130 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: don't lean on internet speculation, and then I go about 131 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: reading several pieces of internet speculation. But I do think 132 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: there's something to be said about people who have worked 133 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: in these types of environments before giving their personal perspective. 134 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: So let's not be rumor mongering here, but I do 135 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: think some of these posts are of value. The craziest part, 136 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: one other users said, is that it happened at nine 137 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: thirty PM. No baking or cooking in either Delhi or 138 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: bakery should be taking place at any Walmart at that time. Cleaning, yes, 139 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 5: the walk in ovens have multiple steps before they are 140 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: turned on. Here's a speculation this has to be foul play. 141 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: A lot of the. 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 5: Speculations coming from TikTok. As another user points out, this 143 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 5: is the first that I've seen mention this idea of 144 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 5: this should not have been plugged in, and this is 145 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: after hours. I never worked for Walmart, so I don't know, 146 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: but that's crazy. If the oven wasn't even supposed to 147 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: be on at that time, one makes you wonder how 148 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: this can happen. How does one get trapped in a 149 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: walk in oven? What's the safety protocol? Who was responsible 150 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: to make sure nobody was in the oven before turning 151 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: it on? My deepest status goes out to her family, 152 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: rip Walmart employees, pray for her that this. 153 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 6: Never happens again. 154 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: A lot of these things are very valid, and it 155 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 5: does kind of, you know, attract the mind to the 156 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 5: notion that this could well have been orchestrated in some 157 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: way because of the whole how you get locked in 158 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: unless it was just like a perfect storm of malfunctions. 159 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 5: A lot of people are calling for this closure period 160 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: of Walmart to extend to other Walmart bakeries and then 161 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: incorporate a new regime of training to reassess these kinds 162 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 5: of safety protocols. 163 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 6: So I'll leave it at that. I think that sums 164 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: up the story pretty well. 165 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: We don't have a whole hell of a lot of 166 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: additional detail, But guys, where does your mind jump to 167 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 5: when you hear some of these initition reports. 168 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking for the in this time of tremendous tragedy, 169 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: maybe we could add something that is at least slightly positive. 170 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: It is very smart to institute a new training regimen. 171 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: Right A young lady has died in a preventable death. 172 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: In slightly positive news, if you go to the go 173 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: fund me for the family for the surviving family members, 174 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: you will see that they have raised quite a bit 175 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: of funding to help support the family. And I think 176 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: it's terrible that there has to be a GoFundMe in 177 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: these kind of situations. But if you were listening, you're 178 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: familiar with this story and you have donated, thank you 179 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: for doing, you know, the right thing and helping. I 180 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: just can't imagine, you know, finding your own child in 181 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: that of an And it reminds me no a bit 182 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: of the terrible what's the word used earlier? The macabre 183 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: historical situation of refrigerator death right right, which launched an 184 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: overall comprehensive redesign of refrigerators. That was when people, often children, 185 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: would go into a refrigerator and then find themselves locked in. 186 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: But we're saying this is not the case. We know 187 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: that the body burned, but was there has there at 188 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: this point been any indication of maybe cause of death before? 189 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: Was there suffocation or asphyxiation involved? 190 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have that level of detail yet, though 191 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: from everything that I'm seeing, it does appear that this 192 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: was a not burning alive, but like death by you know, overheating. 193 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: I can't imagine what the state of her body would 194 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: have been. You know, even if it was on a 195 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: low heat and the and the door was locked, you 196 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 5: could absolutely die from you know, a heat stroke of 197 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: some kind, even if you weren't actually burned alive. I mean, 198 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: I sure hope it wasn't that, but either way, it's 199 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: a horrible, slow, and terrifying way to die. 200 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know yet, but we do know. It's 201 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: an intensive investigation. That's why the Walmart is still closed, fully, right, 202 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: I mean that's the whole point, yeh, gathering as much 203 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: details as they possibly can. I want to point one 204 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: thing out, guys. There are over four thousand, six hundred 205 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: Walmart locations inside the United States. Correct bakeries have been 206 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: included in many, if not most, of those stores that 207 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: are called like a supercenter, you know, that have all 208 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: the food, like the grocery section and everything. And this 209 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: is the first time I've heard of anything happening like this. 210 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: And I don't mean to be on Walmart training side, 211 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: but like, obviously they're doing something right. That constitutes a 212 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: whole lot of workers who are dealing with the ovens 213 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: on a daily basis. Right, this is the first time 214 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: we've heard of something like this. It does feel like 215 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: something is going well there. People understand how everything functions 216 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: for the most part. I think maybe in my mind 217 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: that's why this makes me lean towards something was off 218 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: and it wasn't just a malfunctioning piece of equipment. That's 219 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: what it. I mean, that's what makes me feel that way. 220 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: And just for a further context there, I love that 221 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: you're pointing out the numbers in the US. There are 222 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: four hundred and three Walmart stores of some sort in 223 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: Canada overall. So again I think despite that lower number, 224 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: the point earlier established does hold. This is highly anomalous. 225 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Exactly because there's going to be small differences just on 226 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: building code and things like that right between a US 227 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: Walmart and a Canadian Walmart. But ultimately a lot of 228 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: the equipment is going to be similar, if not exactly 229 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: the same. 230 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: Number sent this is something that we will definitely be 231 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 5: keeping an eye on. 232 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: You know. 233 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: Another thing that's seems to be pretty common in the 234 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: discourse around this is that there would appear to be 235 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 5: a pretty good case for legal action here. 236 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 6: No matter what might have happened, wrongful death, what have you. 237 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: Because if it was foul play, you know, who knows 238 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: what that will amount to. But if it was just 239 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: some sort of horrible malfunction or breakdown in safety protocols, 240 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 5: safety procedures, or training, that's going to ultimately be on Walmart. 241 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: But we also know that Walmart and companies like them 242 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: have access to top notch stables of attorneys that will 243 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: likely get this settled out of court and then, you know, 244 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: kind of make it go away, which is sad, you know, 245 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: when these companies don't have to answer for things like this. 246 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that there's some systematic neglect of 247 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 5: this magnitude, you know, on a you know, company level 248 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: with Walmart. 249 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously they've got a lot of issues, but I. 250 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 5: Don't think that they're intentionally trying to burn employees alive 251 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: and walk in ovens. But whatever the case might be, 252 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: some is going to fall to Walmart to answer for this. Well, 253 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 5: on that note, let's jump to a word from our sponsor. 254 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: Thank you, BETHW will be right back with more messages 255 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: from you. 256 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: And we've returned, and guys, we're jumping to the emails again, 257 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: this time to a message from Fatigued and Flying. And 258 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: here is our message. Fatigued and Flying says Fatigued and Flying. 259 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: Here thought y'all would like to see this. A Boeing 260 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: manufactured satellite quote exploded after experiencing a quote anomaly. Barring 261 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: any current expectation of Boeing, does this say anything about 262 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: a foreign assets ability to remove satellites of opposing forces? 263 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Something we've talked about. Fatigued and Flying keep the greasy 264 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: side down. Fatigued and Flying, it's fun. 265 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 6: To say that. 266 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Oh and and we got a link you guys. It's 267 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: a link to a CBS News article from October twenty third, 268 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four by Carrie Breen. And here's the title. 269 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: Boeing satellite explodes in space after experiencing and quote anomaly. 270 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: So let's just go through it real quick. Well, first 271 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: of all, have you guys heard about this? Did it 272 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: pop up on the news feeds? 273 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mentioned I mentioned briefly in our Strange News 274 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: earlier this week. The yes, yeah. First off, fatigue of flying, man, 275 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: I love it when you write in. And you guys know, 276 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: I've got this aviation session going. One of the most 277 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: cynical but still chuckle worthy terms I've heard for this 278 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: in the industry is r u D Rapid unplanned disassembly. 279 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, that's really great. 280 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: It makes you wonder how often stuff like that has 281 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: to happen for there to be an abbreviation for it. 282 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: But or the way they describe explosions sometimes as instantaneous 283 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: and high energy. 284 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I dated, I dated someone like that. Okay, 285 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: but like to your earlier point, Yeah, we've talked about 286 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: some of this in the past. There's a lot going 287 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: on in space, and we know that rival powers have 288 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: been kind of diplomatically showing each other that they possessed 289 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: the technology to knock something out of orbit. But Matt, 290 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: from my understanding, the reporting seems to say this is 291 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 3: not the case, at least what I've read. 292 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: What have you seen? 293 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Well, let's go to the article that fatigued and Flying 294 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: sent us. It says that the US Space Force is 295 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: tracking debris in space after this Boeing satellite exploded. And 296 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: they say it exploded, Okay, very clear about that. It 297 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: didn't malfunction and turn off and they couldn't access it 298 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: or something like that. 299 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 3: No declining orbit or anything like that. 300 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, the satellite went boom, So keep that 301 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: in mind as we're going on here. The satellite is 302 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: titled the Intel Sat thirty three E. It was launched 303 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: back in August twenty sixteen. It provides communications of ross Europe, 304 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Asia and Africa. And again they keep describing it as 305 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: experiencing an anomaly, and that is according to Intel Sat. 306 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: That's the people who manufactured and control this satellite. They 307 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: put out a press release as it happened, and we 308 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: can get to that too. We can tell you how 309 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: to find that, but we're staying in CBS News for 310 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: a moment. Attempts were made to work with Boeing to 311 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: repair the satellite, but on Monday, US Space Force said, 312 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: no on, I'd exploded, right, okay, so what do we 313 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: try to repair what's happening? You have to imagine sometimes 314 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: the way a satellite works, Like if you're working with 315 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: this SYNC, you don't have a video feed of the 316 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: satellite flying through the air. Generally, maybe on some of 317 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: the newer ones, you could attach cameras to the satellite 318 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: itself that you would use and get a you know, 319 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: continuous feed from the satellite itself. I mean especially as 320 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 2: a spy satellite or something. You're gonna see, Oh okay, 321 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: I've got a video feed, but you're not gonna have 322 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 2: a camera on the satellite. Does that make sense? You 323 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: can't watch it flying through space. You just have to 324 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: connect to that satellite systems to confirm that it's still 325 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: up there working properly. And I imagine on the Intel 326 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: Sat side, you're like, oh, guys, we can't seem to 327 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: connect to the Intel Sat thirty three E. I'm not 328 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: sure what's going on. We're not getting any readings, we're 329 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: not getting I can't send anything to it. What's happening? 330 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: And then you know, somebody like Space Force comes along 331 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: and just says, oh, yes, we've been tracking the debris field. 332 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: Or you would listen to ross Cosmos, which is the 333 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: Russian side that stated on October twenty second that they 334 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: have been tracking eighty pieces of wreckage that they say 335 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: constitute the destroyed Intel Sat thirty three E. I don't know, okay, 336 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: So then it makes you wonder Intel SATs people didn't 337 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: understand immediately what was happening. They didn't understand that this 338 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: satellite had exploded. What are the mechanisms that can just 339 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: make a satellite like that go boom, And the first 340 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: thing that comes to my mind, you guys, is running 341 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: into some kind of wreckage the way of the way 342 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: we've talked about the space debris that already exists in 343 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: orbit and done, you take much exactly a fairly small piece. 344 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: And we should even mention this, guys, this is a 345 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: huge satellite. This isn't a tiny little one like you 346 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: imagine some of the newer ones that have been going 347 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: up with SpaceX where they're launching, you know, dozens of 348 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: smaller satellites. This thing, according to Intelsat's own press release 349 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: when they talked about it in July twenty sixteen, this 350 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: thing had to be shipped on an antonov An one 351 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: twenty four now, ben through car stuff and through your 352 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: other expirations. Have you heard of that one in particular? 353 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: That plane? 354 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: Yes, not an expert, have never been on one myself. 355 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: But it's it. It reminds me of the sea, is 356 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: it the C one thirty? No, what are they called 357 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: the giant the giant cargo planes. 358 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 6: That the US uses. 359 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: See big boys, the big boys. Yeah, it's like that, 360 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: but then even larger. It's it's Russian made It was 361 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: actually designed you guys, by the USSR back in the 362 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, but it was flown on one of those 363 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: and it was the only way the satellite could get 364 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: from the Boeing manufacturing facility to French Guiana, where it 365 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: ended up being launched for the European Space Agency. So 366 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: it was it filled the entire cargo space of the 367 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: largest plane available in the world. 368 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh and this is the thing, folks, even if you're 369 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: not aviation nerds like us, it's good to look up 370 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: the ant ANDOV because I believe, Matt, that is the 371 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: one where the whole it's like, I think it's the 372 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: whole front opens up. I almost said the whole butt, 373 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: but the whole front opens up like a deep sea fish. 374 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: Both sides can open up, so you can like really 375 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: pack that baby in and then close it up. It's 376 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy looking and it's absolutely massive, and this satellite 377 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: basically filled the entire thing. So this is a huge 378 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: thing flaw like just flying through space up there and 379 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: it just explodes, which just leads to more speculation, obviously, 380 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: and we can't who knows what happened will likely never 381 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: know because it will probably be classified to some extent 382 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: if there's actually something nefarious that happened. But if if 383 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: it was just a malfunction, what the heck was the 384 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: satellite doing? What were its capabilities? It seems to be 385 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: just a communications satellite, at least on paper. 386 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the uh, that's the badger in the bag, right, 387 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: that's our space pickle. It can be difficult. It's almost 388 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: like nuclear energy development versus nuclear weapon development. The same 389 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: capabilities that a satellite can have for communication can be weaponized. 390 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: So unless you're inside those meetings or you're read onto 391 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: whatever they're actually doing, you just sort of have to 392 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: take them at their word. 393 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, I feel like we're gonna find out that 394 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: there's some kind of clandestine and hey, I'm joking when 395 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: I say this, Okay, I feel like we're gonna learn 396 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: that there's some clandestine airbus agency that exists, and their 397 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: entire existence is based on taking down Boeing in every 398 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: possible aspect, right, So like taking out the satellites, making 399 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: sure there's space capsules don't function, making sure their planes 400 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: fall out of the. 401 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: Sky, just getting a ticket by a window seat and 402 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: fusing with the seal. Yeah, they're called the Airbusters. 403 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: No, we are joking. That is not real. 404 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 6: We are joking. 405 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: Gosh, man, it's they just couldn't have worse luck or 406 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: the worst business practices that you know, end up coming 407 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: to light like. 408 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: This, those poor Russians in the windows man. 409 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh. And why is it Boeing? Is because 410 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: Boeing made this satellite. It was manufactured by in there Elsagundo, California. 411 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: Facility, and like you said, in partnership with Intel SAT, right. 412 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then in partnership with the European Space Agency. 413 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Also brought to you by Church's Chicken. 414 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, and quarter pounders with cheese only sometimes 415 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: do you get sick? 416 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: That's the new tagline. 417 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 418 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: So well, is it possible then without casting aspersion? I 419 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: know all four of us have been reading about this, 420 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: Is it possible then that some of the same manufacturing 421 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: defects or issues with quality control on Boeing commercial craft 422 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: could have transferred over to like is there is there 423 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: something nefarious of foots like in you know, a foreign 424 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 3: power or the Airbuster's attacking or is it a problem 425 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: with design? 426 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: Right, well, let's learn a little bit more about Intel 427 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: SAT to think about that. This is from one of 428 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: their press releases when they put out on October nineteenth, 429 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And actually let's go over this press 430 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: release in a little more detail. As we get to 431 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: that thing, we're just discussing their bin, like what could 432 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: have been the problem? Why would somebody even target them? 433 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: First of all, they noted that there was a service 434 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: outage for their customers, and this was on October nineteenth, 435 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: So what who are their customers and was the service 436 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: outage under the about intel sat peace there on the 437 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: press release, it says Intelsat's global team of professionals is 438 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: focused on providing seamless and secure satellite based communications to 439 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: government okay, NGO and commercial customers through the company's next 440 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: generation Worldwide network and managed services. 441 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's a vague at all. 442 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: No, not at all. With a giant satellite that's up 443 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: there providing communications to always I don't know why. I 444 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: think after our episodes on NGOs, every time I see 445 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: that phrase show up, I see something show up where 446 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: it's a non governmental organization, my brain says, oh, spine, 447 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: but it's not that, and that's not what that means. 448 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: My brain has that association. 449 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: I think we're a little programmed at this point. Yeah, yeah, 450 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 3: our immediate what if questions and there's nothing wrong with it. 451 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 3: There's a reason we hang out on this show. But also, Matt, 452 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: just to give you the reassurance there and for all 453 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: of our fellow listeners this evening, that is not an 454 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: implausible or unreasonable question. It has a very good one 455 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 3: when it comes to satellites. 456 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, especially considering certain hot conflicts that are occurring in 457 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Europe right now. You know, there's this country called Ukraine, 458 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 2: this other one called Russia, and in North Korea. 459 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: There's as Israel. 460 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: Whatever, it's fine. 461 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 3: I can't wait till Liechtenstein comes in. 462 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: Man, there's some stuff going on, is what we're saying. 463 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: And having satellite communications when you're operating, let's say, away 464 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: from major cities in hot conflicts, it's really nice to 465 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: have that satellite communication available. Well, if it's not available, 466 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: you could disrupt operations in the air, on the ground 467 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: and the CEE whatever. So there's a potential motive for 468 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: somebody to want to take that satellite out if you could. 469 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 7: Right. 470 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: Oh, but this was the thing from that October nineteenth 471 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: release that we were into. Sorry I got lost a 472 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: little bit, guys, but it says the satellite experienced an 473 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: anomaly on the nineteenth, resulting in a loss of power 474 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: and service to customers. We're working closely with Boeing, the manufacturer, 475 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: to address the situation. Based on the information available to 476 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: us in this moment on October nineteenth, we believe it 477 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: is unlikely that the satellite will be recoverable. So they 478 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: really it seems as though they didn't know it had 479 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: fully failed and turned into you know, bits. 480 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: And this didn't happen immediately, Matta believe the satellite was 481 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: only it was like halfway through it's expected what we 482 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: will call service life. So they this has been up 483 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: for a minute. They didn't shoot it out and then 484 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: see a catastrophic failure. 485 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah. August twenty sixteen is when it was launched, 486 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: so it's been operating for quite a while now. So 487 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: weird one, guys. I don't have much more but besides 488 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: to say thank you so much, Fatigued and flying, what 489 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: a great story. Thanks for putting it in front of us. 490 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad we got to follow up on this after 491 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: we talked about it on Strange News. That makes me 492 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: very happy, and we will We'll be right back with 493 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: more messages from you. 494 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: And we have returned. You know, folks, we often use 495 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: our listener mail program as an opportunity to discover episodes 496 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: with you in the future. We're grateful for your help. 497 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: One thing to stay on the Boeing conversation here this 498 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: really quickly. This is coming to us from Anonymous. Anonymous says, 499 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: I am a Boeing employee and the layoff news is 500 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: not going well. We haven't really talked about the timing 501 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: of the layoffs and the reported losses of Boeing in 502 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: conjunction with the unfortunate events up there in the rarefied air. 503 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: Anonymous says, my area won't be affected until the second round. 504 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: This means we won't be notified until December twenty first 505 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: Great Christmas Present. We are trying to pick up rate 506 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: on my program shortly after that time. So it makes 507 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: perfect sense to fire a bunch of people right when 508 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: you need to hire people. As you can imagine, morale 509 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: is high. The way layoffs are being handled, it appears 510 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: that it is totally a short sighted way to make the 511 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: shareholders happy now without looking at the future of the company. Oh, 512 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: we planned to make planes, faster, cut labor, save cost. 513 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: Not really going anywhere with that. That's just an addendum, Anonymous. 514 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: You've asked us to protect your identity there. We just 515 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: want to share this because we're hearing from a lot 516 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: of folks who are associated with Boeing in one position 517 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: or another. And one thing I think we can agree 518 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: is unfair is the way this stuff is often getting reported. 519 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: It seems to imply that what's going wrong is the 520 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: fault of the employees, and that could not be further 521 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: from the truth for sure. Yeah, So with that, we're 522 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: going to talk about some software you should bear apparently 523 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: some stuff, some stuff that is clearly bad. This comes 524 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: to us from our pal who has not chosen a moniker. 525 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: So to protect your identity, we are going to call 526 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: you agent Zanzibar Love. It is that cool? Yes, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, 527 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: you know them, you know them? So Zanzibar says, Hey, guys, 528 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: listening to strange news in the lap today and had 529 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: a few thoughts. First. Within the last few years, I 530 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: have started diving into the world of sUAS sUAS small 531 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: unmanned aerial systems drones drones for us the uncool and 532 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: drones in the FAA acquiring a Part one O seven 533 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: pilot's license. Congratulations zans Bar for drone commercial operation. One 534 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: of the biggest discussions, says zan's Bar, is that the FAA, 535 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: the Federal Aviation Administration, is considering a ban on all 536 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: Chinese made devices. And this reminds me of our earlier 537 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: conversation about those mystery drones out there of Virginia Way. 538 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly how this is legal or you know, 539 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: whatever the calculus is, but Zanzibar says, the alphabet soup 540 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: agencies may be concerned that a company named Dji has 541 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: been mining information gathered from drones operating in the US 542 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: land surveying building three D models of structures, monitoring construction, 543 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: and that drones may have chemical spray tanks for agricultural 544 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: applications that might be might be weaponized potentially. Why might 545 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: ask sans Bar, certain individuals owning manufacturing companies in this 546 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: drone space or autonomous vehicle space in general, Why would 547 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: the folks doing that in the US be interested in 548 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: a ban on Chinese devices? Could they be pushing governmental 549 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: agencies to adopt a ban? Okay, first question, Chinese software hardware, 550 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: drones where we at guys for it, or again, well. 551 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: Remember we talked about this when we talked about vehicles, right, 552 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: or we at least mentioned it in one of these episodes. 553 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: Pretty recently, I think strange news where the US was 554 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: considering banning all Chinese parts in all cars and trucks 555 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: that are in use in the United States, right for 556 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: some of the same reasoning at least, Right, So, I 557 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: wonder if this is like a blanket thing that's coming 558 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: across all the federal agencies, or at least an attempt 559 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: to do this. 560 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is fascinating because we have to ask 561 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: ourselves what is the line between innovation and protectionism? 562 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 563 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: Right, there is, Like, look, if you're a fellow gearhead, 564 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: then you know that Chinese auto manufacturers have some amazing 565 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: vehicles that will never be sold here. Like they're crazy 566 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: cool looking. I guess I have not just I have 567 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: not entered one. 568 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Is maybe not safe? 569 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you know. 570 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: It's everything's a trade off, right, Hey man, what's a 571 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 5: little risk of bodily injury to looking cool? 572 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 573 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes just also try to have a feeling. 574 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't aside. My sister owns a Korean 575 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: manufactured vehicle, and it is one of the coolest vehicle 576 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: I guess I can say. It's an Ionic five. It's 577 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: from Hyundai, and it just got in a terrible wreck, 578 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: like a really bad wreck, with my sister in it. 579 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 2: She and the kids who were in the car walked 580 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: away just fine. They're fine. Well, I think my sister 581 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: had like you know, whiplash and stuff, but that's just 582 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: what happens when you get in an accident. But it 583 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: was so safe in this pretty devastating wreck. So I'm 584 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: just saying, like I think, vehicle safety this is a 585 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: whole other conversation, But I wonder how much of that 586 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: is smoking mirrors to some extent, or how much of 587 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: it is really, you know, an actually safe vehicle. 588 00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 589 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: No, that's a great point. It's kind of like the 590 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: conversation about live golf, right, which is the criticisms from 591 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: rival agencies back in the day not too long ago, 592 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: seemed to come on two fronts. First, yes, valid concerns 593 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: about human rights and sports washing, and then second, donate 594 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: our lunch. And so I think you're quite astute to 595 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: bring up the idea that there may be there may 596 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: be ulterior motives in pushing for a software ban, especially 597 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: in a world where you already have satellites everywhere, as 598 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: long as they don't explore, or as long as they 599 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: don't experience rapid unplanned disassembly like you know what I mean, 600 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: there's a we have to question the motive here. We 601 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: also have to give a shout out to Tennessee pal 602 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: mister Fagan, who in the chat just alerted us to 603 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: a big fan of Chinese made cars. The CEO of Ford, 604 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: Jim Farley, is driving a Shaomi SU seven and he 605 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: loves it. 606 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: What is that? 607 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: It's a really cool car. 608 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: L Yeah, Dylan just shared a link and I just 609 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: saw a picture of it. It is a nicely sweet 610 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: looking sports car. 611 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: And it's from a company that is primarily known for 612 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: making consumer electronics and smartphones. The technology war is real, folks, 613 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: or at least the cold technology competition, right. We also 614 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: see that, Zanzibar, you have some really smart questions and 615 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: concerns here. In one of the big ones that you note, 616 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: again we're summarizing your letter. One of the big ones 617 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: that you note is the following. It seems, as with 618 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: many other things, there are certain people with unreasonable amounts 619 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: of money that can push alphabet agencies to adopt bands 620 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: to benefit their company, which may be a more valid 621 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: reason to ban Chinese equipment than that the Chinese are 622 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 3: actually using these things to spy on us while acquiring 623 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: very limited data. Because again, satellites are already you know 624 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 3: what I mean, Satellites are already already up there. Satellites 625 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 3: are blow it up ouch. So with this, I got 626 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 3: to ask you, guys, do you think that the United 627 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: States government should ban Chinese software and hardware on a 628 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: large scale due to these concerns? HM shout out, TikTok. 629 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 630 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 7: Well. 631 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 5: You know, I heard an interesting perspective on this, this 632 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 5: notion that we hold popular foreign software companies, whether it 633 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 5: be you know, things like social media or this type 634 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: of thing, to a different standard than we like hold 635 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 5: our own social media companies and software companies. Where it's 636 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 5: almost like all of these accusations that are being hurled 637 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: around at like byte edance or whatever. Let's say, TikTok, 638 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 5: Facebook's been doing that stuff for years. You know, all 639 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 5: of these these like there is no benevolence towards the 640 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 5: consumer from domestic software companies. It's just not a thing 641 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 5: it's all userists and trying to capitalize on people's vulnerabilities 642 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 5: and whatever it might be. And then you get the 643 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: product out as quickly as possible, make as much money 644 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 5: as possible, and you know, safety and mental health be damned. 645 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 6: I just don't. I don't think it's fair. 646 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm really stoked that you bring this up. I think 647 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: it's a tremendous point. It's something that's been on one 648 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: of my minds for a time as well. Like, so 649 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: we know we can socially engineer and we can manipulate 650 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: people through algorithms. To your point about mental health, Why 651 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: right now is there not at least beat me here, Dylan? 652 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: Why is there not at least one app that is 653 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: social media in a way that is good for you? You 654 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Something that shows you affirming stuff, 655 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: something that doesn't try to manipulate your base impulses. Is 656 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: it just not profitable? Has just had? Did all the 657 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: tech moguls wake up and say, nah, I'm gonna be 658 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 3: in today? 659 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: I just asked Google, are there any social media apps 660 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: that are good for your brain and the AI overview? 661 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: I guess that I got back from Google says no 662 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 2: social media apps are not good for your brain. 663 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: Just one, just give us one. We've got a lot 664 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: of disaffected aristocrats and decay billionaires in the crowd. You 665 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: guys do it. You know we don't have the acumen there. 666 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: We're leaning on you and we want you to keep 667 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 3: us honest. And that is why we're going to end 668 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: our Halloween listener mail with a bit of a maya culpa, gentleman, 669 00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: a letter from home. We have offended our fellow conspiracy 670 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 3: You realis Brock. 671 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 6: Not Brock, not the brocnest monster, not Brockampton. 672 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no. 673 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 6: Not broccoli with cheese sauce. 674 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the brocconado, not broca flower. 675 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: He goes Brock. Uh. Well, you may not know this, Brock. 676 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: You called in twice in a row a little while back, 677 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: and I guess you maybe butt dialed us or something. 678 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: But there's a couple of messages where it's just background 679 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 2: stuff happening, and it's highly entertaining. 680 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: But I analyzed all of it with a very advanced 681 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 5: set of audio tools, and I know what you're up to, bro. 682 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 6: And if not me tell you, oh, I know. 683 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: If my satellite was still up there, this would be 684 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: a very different conversation. I said it whatever, Dylan, keep 685 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: it in all right, But Brock, you are keeping us honest. 686 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: We are a big fan of the Brock Andado. I 687 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 3: don't know why I like that word, but we want 688 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 3: to you know, we want to take accountability here. So 689 00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: this is what you sent us. 690 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, rock and sponsor. And I'm calling because, uh, 691 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 7: you reached an episode of the check Harbor UFO incident. 692 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: That was a classic, right, Yes. 693 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 7: Ben made uh dispairy dream or mark about somebody basically 694 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 7: facing he's not at huff puffing maniac m someone who 695 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 7: is a paint huffing maniac to defense. Oh no, reformed, 696 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 7: still very taged, very tacked, very very uh very uh 697 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 7: very defensive. H Anyway, good episodes, guys. Thanks. 698 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so I think our reputation is repaired. I don't 699 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 3: think that's a fatal wound. But yes, apologies to all 700 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: paint huffing maniacs, which is why I thought that conversation 701 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: was interesting. 702 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 5: It would have been a nice in the background. 703 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brock, Brockanado. 704 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 6: Not here. Brock, I think you're a silly goose. 705 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: I don't you can't look being a maniac does not 706 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 3: mean you huff paint, and huffing paint does not automatically 707 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: make you a mania. It does kind of for a second, 708 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: for like eight minutes maybe, right, But you know, uh, 709 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: there's there's some great paint out there. That's our main takeaway, 710 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Who are we to judge? 711 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 3: But we have miles to go before we sleep. We 712 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 3: are keeping this one relatively brief. We hope everyone who 713 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 3: celebrates has a happy Halloween. If you don't like Halloween, 714 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 3: then we know, hope you have a great Thursday. I 715 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 3: guess since you're you're in a fun police situation or whatever, 716 00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: make sure you. 717 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: Have candy at least they'll little bit just in case. 718 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: Just in case, don't get tricked. So big big thanks too, Beth, 719 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 3: big big thanks to fatigued and flying to Anonymous, to 720 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: Agent Zanzabar, and everybody else who took the time to 721 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: contact us. We want you to join the cause. Out 722 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: here in the dark. You can find us on email, telephone, 723 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 3: and oh wait, what's this? After I just excoriated social media, 724 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: we're also online. 725 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 6: On the internet. You say, that's right. You can find 726 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 6: this on the computer. 727 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 5: Just point your computer towards the handle conspiracy stuff, where 728 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 5: we exist on YouTube, where we have video content galore 729 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 5: for your enjoyment and perusal. We also exist in that 730 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 5: handle on x FKA Twitter and on Facebook where we. 731 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 6: Have our Facebook group. Here's where it gets crazy. 732 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 5: Do you want to find us on Instagram and TikTok? However, 733 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 5: you can point your computer or smart device towards the 734 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 5: handle conspiracy stuff Show. 735 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 2: If you want to be like Rock, you could call us. 736 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 2: Just try not to butt dial us, and do put 737 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 2: this number in your phone before you call it. One 738 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 2: eight three three std WYTK. That's our voicemail system. When 739 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: you call in, you'll hear a familiar voice, a familiar sound, 740 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 2: and then a beep. After that beep, say whatever you'd like. 741 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: You've got three minutes, Give yourself a cool nickname and 742 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: let us know if we can use your name and 743 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 2: message on the air. If you've got more to say 744 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: than can fit in a voicemail, why not instead send 745 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: us a good old fashioned email. 746 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 3: We are the entities that read every piece of correspondence 747 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 3: we receive. Be well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void 748 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: writes back. And if you like many of our fellow 749 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 3: conspiracy realists are quarreling over finding the right nickname, the 750 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 3: right alias, the right persona or moniker. Have no fear. 751 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 3: Write to us directly and we'll give you one. You 752 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: might not like it, but you know what in that case, 753 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 3: if you write to us limited time offer just because 754 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 3: it's our favorite day of the year. If you write 755 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: to us now as you hear this, we'll give you 756 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 3: not one, but three nickname and you tell us which 757 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 3: is your favorite. Be warned, it's going to be very weird. 758 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 3: Conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. 759 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 2: Stuff they don't want you to know is a production 760 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 761 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.