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Speaker 1: That is coming up ahead of Thursday Night Football. Two

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Speaker 2: A lot of people needed his help.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport along with me as Mike Carre follow as

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Speaker 2: As always, we will.

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Speaker 1: Have all the information from around the league to provide

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Speaker 1: Speaking of tonight's game, Jalen Waddle for the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: keeping this game close. Cameron Wolf always a necessity. My

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Speaker 2: Or of Jalen Waddle for us. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: how do the Dolphins prepare for this? How do they

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Speaker 3: And again, Waddell's got to be a big part of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, First of all, Mike, gu's a beautiful day here

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Speaker 3: He won't need that jacket today.

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Speaker 4: I already saw some Bills fans shirtless as I came through,

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Speaker 4: So the key for the Dolphins is can they run

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Speaker 4: Seen time and time again when Buffalo plays the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: Cam will have final word on Jalen Waddle here and

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Speaker 2: We've been through this before. We know what the Thursday

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Speaker 1: They have, but the games in Buffalo under Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 6: First, the facts part of it.

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Speaker 5: But there is a good reason for that, Judy, and

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Speaker 5: to me, the good reason is that Kirk Cousins has

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the insiders, here is information into us a

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Speaker 1: As for this weekend in the NFL, you've got the

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say, brutally honest.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm at that.

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Speaker 9: Lost in the back of my mind for a while.

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Speaker 1: Love me some Kobe Turner love when a guy is honest.

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Speaker 1: Usually they say we're just looking at week one, not

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger and Mark Ross bald they want to start

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Speaker 1: with you on Saquon Barkley, because that was not those

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Speaker 2: We're still looking for that from him this season.

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Speaker 1: What are you seeing with regard to when he's about

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Speaker 10: I mean, he hit that thing the way we saw

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Speaker 3: Of it against the Rams, and there was two wins.

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Speaker 1: You Kobe Turner say, we were even in the spring

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no one can really replicate how impressive sapon was,

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Speaker 11: Jared Vers to step up. He has no sacks and

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Speaker 3: I've been talking. We've been waiting for this game.

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Speaker 11: So that's going to be tremendously important for them to

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Speaker 11: as we've mentioned, this Eagles offense really has not been clicking.

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Speaker 11: Saquan is so important with those huge runs. That Rams

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Speaker 2: I love seeing Baldy on game day.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm talking ear to ear, talking to everybody getting

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 3: It's Dolphins versus Bills. Find way to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Cooking and cut it back.

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Speaker 6: And out the gate to the races.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown James Cook, Craig Tua over the middle, eight Chan touchdown,

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Speaker 11: Ze bottle us down there, touchdown, Alan.

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Speaker 5: There's it at Football is the best because you go

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Speaker 6: Did you get those highlights. You know, like, all right,

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Speaker 13: The weather is glorious, and he is going to go.

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Speaker 5: See hopefully for all of us, an excellent, excellent football game. Cam,

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Speaker 4: voice echoes a little bit, but he said his vision

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Speaker 4: is great and the reality is you got to protect

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Speaker 4: that nose. And I'll tell you this, he got hurt

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Speaker 4: in this past game and I talked to general manager

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Speaker 4: Brandon Bean and he was feeling everything that fans were feeling.

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Speaker 4: He said, I went silent completely. I grabbed my binoculars.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on. I just saw

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Speaker 4: blood everywhere. But in typical Josh Allen fastest, he comes

447
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Speaker 4: back and shows that toughness, only misses two plays and

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Speaker 4: there's no worry going forward. He wasn't even on the

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Speaker 4: injury report, just the bruise, but certainly after wear that

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Speaker 4: visor going forward. One thing I did find funny is

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Speaker 4: I talked to Terrell Bernard, one of their linebackers. He said,

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Speaker 4: we've been joking on him all week in the locker

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Speaker 4: room about his nose. He had a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a black eye, and there's a running joke that his

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Speaker 4: nose has become the size of one of the Boza brothers.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is taking that on and saying, I'm the

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Speaker 4: third Boza brother in the league. Regardless, the Dolphins are

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Speaker 4: going to have to face the MVP, a guy who's

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Speaker 4: dominated them thirteen and two against the Fens, and regardless

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Speaker 4: of his nose, his arm and his legs will be

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Speaker 4: at fore most of our eyes today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they got enough to worry about.

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Speaker 5: But if Josh Allen morphed in't the third Bosha brother

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Speaker 5: and started hitting people like Data.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody would to be surprised.

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Speaker 6: Certainly he's physical enough.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, on the other side, for the Miami Dolphins, not

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Speaker 5: so great wing to start.

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Speaker 6: It has gotten loud in Miami. You live there, you

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Speaker 6: get it.

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Speaker 5: It's been a lot to talk about the Dolphins through

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Speaker 5: the course of the first couple of weeks of the season.

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Speaker 5: How will the Dolphins respond to and how have they

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Speaker 5: responded to your knowledge over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 4: And I spent some time in the Dolphins facility this

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Speaker 4: week just to get that vibe, and I talked to

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Speaker 4: several players really to get an idea of had they

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Speaker 4: quit on their coach, had they quit on the season

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Speaker 4: like some people have wondered. And the answers have been no, Yes,

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Speaker 4: we wanted a starter, a faster start than we've had

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Speaker 4: at this stage. But they still feel like there's a

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Speaker 4: lot to fight for and they expect to fight today

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Speaker 4: against this Buffalo team. They know that on paper they're

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Speaker 4: double digit underdogs. But one thing I found interesting is

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Speaker 4: Jayla Wattle, who was expected to play today, was one

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Speaker 4: of the most vocal guys after their loss. I'm told

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Speaker 4: he stood up in the meeting room and essentially said

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Speaker 4: this is not who we are, this is not our standard.

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Speaker 4: And it really held strong in the locker room because

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Speaker 4: Jalen never talks. He's a quiet guy, and so for

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Speaker 4: him to speak up and advocate for change. They think

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Speaker 4: they'll come out and fight for their head coach, fight

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Speaker 4: for their team, and.

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Speaker 3: Maybe surprise some people with how well they play.

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Speaker 4: But Ian, as I'm looking at you, I saw your

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Speaker 4: shirt that you wore yesterday on the show, and I

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Speaker 4: wanted to give you a little bit of critique. I

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Speaker 4: know we do this weekly fashion deal. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: if this is like a you know, Charlie Brown special

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Speaker 4: or if we're doing something where you know, you got

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Speaker 4: to figure out something new to wear.

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Speaker 3: But this would have never made.

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Speaker 6: A top five fashion list.

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Speaker 3: You've had better.

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Speaker 4: We have our top five fashion lists on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor was the winner of this week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of other good fits.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, Ian, I need more from

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Speaker 4: you in that department for you to be in consideration.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 5: I bought that shirt to wear with a jacket, but

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Speaker 5: it was a little too hot in the office to

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Speaker 5: wear the jacket yesterday.

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Speaker 6: So I take criticism, I take coaching. Next time you

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Speaker 6: see that shirt.

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Speaker 5: It'll be with a jacket and then you can can

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Speaker 5: rewigh in on it.

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Speaker 6: Cam, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I love us.

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Speaker 6: Always enjoy the game. It is going to be a

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Speaker 6: good one, Judy.

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Speaker 7: Take it away, all right, guys, these are our three

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Speaker 7: prime time games this week.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, we've got Dolphins that.

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Speaker 7: Bills in what looks like a gorgeous day in Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: Can't say that very often about games there. Obviously Chiefs

527
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Speaker 7: Giants on Sunday night, and then the Monday Niger Lions

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Speaker 7: in Baltimore to face the Ravens. Let's bring in our

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Speaker 7: Jeffrey Chidia and Mark Ross because it's time to do

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Speaker 7: a little bit more patience or panic or panic or patients,

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Speaker 7: depending on how you're feeling, guys, Let's start with the

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Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns. Is it time for patients or panic?

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Speaker 3: There, it's time for patients, Judy.

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Speaker 14: This team did not have a ton of expectations on it,

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Speaker 14: and it actually hadn't played that poorly. They played the

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Speaker 14: Mangles pretty top. They had good defense in that game.

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Speaker 14: It was a ten point game. In ball more last

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Speaker 14: week and they gave away a lot of points, came

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Speaker 14: up four touchdowns on short fields or defensive scored. So

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Speaker 14: I don't think they're going to be great, but I

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Speaker 14: don't think there's awful as an hero to two record

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Speaker 14: would suggest. And look, they had quarterback situations, quarterback situation

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Speaker 14: coming into this season.

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Speaker 3: Mark, I think people need to be patient with this team.

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Speaker 3: Let them figure it out. Well, I'm just looking at

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Speaker 3: it as it's always.

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Speaker 11: Panic time in Cleveland with this team over the years.

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Speaker 3: It's something always popping up.

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Speaker 11: And yes, they've been competitive, but if you're looking at

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Speaker 11: the long term.

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Speaker 3: Is well, we're going to panic because how long are.

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Speaker 11: They going to keep throwing Joe Flacco out there throwing

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Speaker 11: interceptions and fumbling the ball. Of course, they've got the

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Speaker 11: rookies there with Dyllian Gabriel and Schidora Sanders, but are

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Speaker 11: they the answer either. You know, Joe Flacco beat them

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Speaker 11: out for a reason. So although they've been competitive, I'm

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Speaker 11: still looking as panic and looking at maybe those two

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Speaker 11: first round picks next year. Already eye on that up

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Speaker 11: with quarterback, they're going to take.

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Speaker 7: Judy all right, this may be one of the most

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Speaker 7: surprising Owen to teams. The Houston Texans patients panic, Jeffrey, I'm.

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Speaker 14: Panicking here, And look, I know they've played some tough

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Speaker 14: teams lost and the Rams and the Bucks, and those

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Speaker 14: games were close.

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Speaker 3: But I look at the way their offense looks right now.

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Speaker 14: It is not encouraging that they're having a tough time

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Speaker 14: running the ball without Joe Mixon there c j.

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Speaker 3: Stroud has not gotten back to where.

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Speaker 14: He was a couple of years ago when he was

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Speaker 14: the offensive rookie of the year. And this new system,

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Speaker 14: Nick Hayley, their office accordator brought in.

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Speaker 3: Is not hitting it just yet. And the Colts are real.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you have to look at that divinion now

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Speaker 14: and say they could literally Indianapolis is legitimately a contender

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Speaker 14: for that. So Mark, I don't like whether Houston Texans

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Speaker 14: are heading with a really tough AFC and a tough

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Speaker 14: AFC South all of a sudden.

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Speaker 11: Patience patience, jeff All those things you mentioned are going

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Speaker 11: to get better.

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Speaker 3: They got a new.

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Speaker 11: Offensive coordinator, so the offense going to jail. New body

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Speaker 11: is up front there on the offensive line. They're going

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Speaker 11: to play together get better. And you mentioned Joe Mixon

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Speaker 11: is going to come back, so he's going to inject

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Speaker 11: some life into that offense, and CJ. Stroud is going

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Speaker 11: to settle down, started hitting those open throws and get

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Speaker 11: some confidence. As long as that defense is playing the

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Speaker 11: way it is, they're going to be in every game

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Speaker 11: while the offense figures it out.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 7: I know what people in my circle are thinking about

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Speaker 7: the New York Giants.

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Speaker 8: What are you thinking, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 14: I'm thinking, look at the quarterback situation and be patient there,

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Speaker 14: because Russell Wilson was cooking last week four and fifty

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Speaker 14: yards was lighting up that Cowboys secondary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to show the.

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Speaker 14: Interception he through at the end in overtime. That was

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Speaker 14: a big part of their loss. But I like the

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Speaker 14: way he played coming back from a tough Week one,

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Speaker 14: and that gives Jackson Dart some time to develop. Their

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Speaker 14: best strategy moving forward is to get Jackson Dart as

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Speaker 14: much time to get used to playing this league.

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Speaker 3: I know the defense thinks.

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Speaker 14: I know they got a tough game with the Chiefs,

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Speaker 14: but Russell Wilson mark is buying them some time here.

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Speaker 3: Give them some patience.

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Speaker 11: Well, Jeffrey, I know you're not in judy circle, because

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Speaker 11: I know what people in Judy circle are thinking.

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Speaker 3: This is panic time.

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Speaker 11: In New York, and that's just because they've been so

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Speaker 11: dreadful here. Yes, they're waiting on Jackson Dart, but the

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Speaker 11: biggest panic reason is the defense. You mentioned where we

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Speaker 11: all thought the defense was going to hold it together,

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Speaker 11: with that front of Burns and Thibodeaux and Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 11: and rookie of Duel Carter dominating while they held things together, Well,

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Speaker 11: they can't stop anybody right now.

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Speaker 3: That secondary is really poorous.

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Speaker 11: The linebacker level has not been good, and those guys

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Speaker 11: really have not delivered. Burns has flashed a little bit,

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Speaker 11: Carter has flashed a little bit, but they have not dominated.

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Speaker 11: So if that defense keeps playing like it is, no

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Speaker 11: matter who's back there at quarterback, they're not going to

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Speaker 11: be able to stay in games. They might be fun

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Speaker 11: like they did best offensive game in twenty years, they

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Speaker 11: still lose the game.

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Speaker 3: They're just snake bit right now.

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Speaker 8: They were pretty encouraged by Russ though. I'll say that

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Speaker 8: all right.

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Speaker 7: Finally, let's turn to the Carolina Panthers panic or patients

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Speaker 7: for a Carolina I'm.

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Speaker 14: Going patience here for the same reason I went with

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Speaker 14: patients with the Browns and with the Giants, a young

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Speaker 14: team trying to find itself. The quarterback situation is not great,

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Speaker 14: but I have patients here because we saw Bryce Young

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Speaker 14: rebound the second half of last year. He has not

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Speaker 14: started strong this year, but I think there's hope that

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Speaker 14: he can figure it out.

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Speaker 3: They got to run a football better. Last year they

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Speaker 3: were a bill of the pack.

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Speaker 14: Now they're one of the worst rushing offenses in the league,

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Speaker 14: and I just think some young receivers there mark there's

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Speaker 14: time for this to get figured out because they figured.

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Speaker 3: It out last year.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I had some expectations in here and

646
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Speaker 11: wanted to be patient. But I got a panic now

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Speaker 11: with my man, Bryce Shaan. When he came out of Alabama,

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Speaker 11: I loved him. I thought he was going to be

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Speaker 11: a star. I keep rooting for him. I keep hoping,

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Speaker 11: just like last week, he starts looking like he's going

651
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Speaker 11: to turn.

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Speaker 3: The corner in that game, and then he just.

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Speaker 11: Looks like, man, I just got to give this guy

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Speaker 11: a hug. He just keeps making mistakes, he keeps getting sacked,

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Speaker 11: he keeps just doing things that high level quarterbacks do

656
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Speaker 11: not do so, I think at this point with Bryce Young, unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: I'm panicking because I've given him so many opportunities duty

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Speaker 11: I just don't think he has it at this point.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, jeff I love when you guys disagree. I gotta

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Speaker 8: be honest.

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Speaker 11: He's always I'm trying to held the Michian guy off

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Speaker 11: his level.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to defeat everything.

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Speaker 7: Very generous of you, Thank you, Jeffrey, Thank you Mark.

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Speaker 7: You should be reading Jeffrey every week his First Read

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Speaker 7: column NFL dot Com slash First Read.

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Speaker 8: I read it every week. You should be reading it too.

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Speaker 7: And when we return on The Insiders, it's time for

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Speaker 7: Fantasy starts and sits. Our Michael f Florio is going

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Speaker 7: to be here to tell you what to do for

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Speaker 7: tonight's game.

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Speaker 8: When we return on the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: It is time for starts and sits with our guy

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Speaker 1: from NFL Fantasy Live, Michael f Florio. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions to ask us. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: right to it. Let's start with Thursday Night football. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of starts, who are our starts for this Dolphins

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Speaker 1: Bills game?

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Speaker 12: Well, you keep saying a lot of people think it's

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Speaker 12: going to be a lot side of games. So get

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Speaker 12: Bills into your lineup tonight, and obviously you know how

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Speaker 12: to play Josh Allen and James Cook. I think you

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Speaker 12: should also be playing Keon Coleman tonight. I still think

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Speaker 12: he is going to be the wide receiver one for

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Speaker 12: the Bills. He has been a first read on twenty

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Speaker 12: seven percent of passes per Fantasy Points data. The Dolphins secondary,

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Speaker 12: it's looked like one that can be had. And Josh

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Speaker 12: Allen in his career has averaged three passing touchdowns or

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Speaker 12: close to three passing touchdowns per game. And Coleman is

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Speaker 12: the go to Enzel option there. While we're talking about

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Speaker 12: Bill's receivers, shout out to my guy Stevie Johnson, who

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Speaker 12: is the legend of the game tonight. I also think, look,

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Speaker 12: we talk running backs and receivers a lot and stuff,

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Speaker 12: what about a kicker. Matt Prader here at least eleven

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Speaker 12: Fantasy points in each game so far this year. And look,

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Speaker 12: you don't have to worry it's gonna be a heavy

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Speaker 12: run game or a heavy pass game. You don't worry

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Speaker 12: about that with the kicker, you know who doesn't get

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Speaker 12: polled in blowouts?

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Speaker 2: The kicker.

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Speaker 12: He is attached to one of the best offenses in football.

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Speaker 12: So I am starting Matt Prater in a surprising amount

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Speaker 12: of leagues tonight, and I think others should do the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Way too much time on a kicker. Let's get to

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Speaker 5: something that's more important. Well, you're gonna sit tonight, and

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Speaker 5: I have a feeling I know where you're gonna start.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm gonna go with to a tongue of iiloe

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Speaker 12: here as a sit with the Dolphins. Look, I like Tua.

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Speaker 12: I do not like him in this matchup at all.

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Speaker 12: He has really struggled against the Bills in his career.

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Speaker 12: In fact, in his last seven games against them, he

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Speaker 12: has topped two hundred and forty passing yards just once.

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Speaker 12: He is just two games in that span with multiple

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Speaker 12: passing touchdowns. And Mike McDaniel's offenses have never scored more

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Speaker 12: than seventeen points on three days rest. And if you're

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Speaker 12: still not sold, the Bills have allowed the fewest passing

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Speaker 12: yards in the NFL. So if you need a streaming quarterback,

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Speaker 12: I think there's better ways to go than with Tua.

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Speaker 12: And if I'm sitting Tua, I'm thinking can play Tyreek,

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Speaker 12: But I'm sitting Jalen Waddle if possible. He had a

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Speaker 12: good game last week, and he has a history of

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Speaker 12: success against the Patriots, not the case against the Bills.

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Speaker 12: He has been held to under fifty yards against this

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Speaker 12: defense in three straight games and in five of his

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Speaker 12: last seven against them, and nearly his last thirty one

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Speaker 12: games just seven touchdowns. That is nearly two seasons worth

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Speaker 12: of games. And it's showing that we can't rely on

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Speaker 12: touchdowns to save his day. The yardage hasn't been there

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Speaker 12: against the Bills. So I would if you have an option,

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Speaker 12: I would take it and get away from water.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's expand this to the entire weekend of

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Speaker 1: Week three in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You heard earlier in the show, A.

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Speaker 1: Mecca Abuka did not practice again for the second straight

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Speaker 1: day for the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: So where do we stand on Abuka? Is he a

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Speaker 2: start or is he a sit this weekend?

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Speaker 12: If he plays, obviously we've got to make sure he

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Speaker 12: plays for a third straight week. I'm sitting in the

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Speaker 12: studio saying to start a Mecca Abuca. Three touchdowns at

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Speaker 12: eighteen fantasy points per game so far, So why would

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Speaker 12: you get away and we're seeing the Jets allow Sauce

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Speaker 12: Gardner to shadow number one wide receivers again this year.

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Speaker 12: He did so over ninety percent of the plays in

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Speaker 12: Week one against DK Metcalf. If that's the case with

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Speaker 12: Mike Evans this week, it could mean more targets his way.

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Speaker 12: And no team has allowed more yards to slot receivers

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Speaker 12: than the Jets.

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Speaker 6: I have Mike Kevin, so that's actually not great to hear.

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Speaker 5: But one guy I do not have his Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 5: Probably should have drafted him one Coast and Level one instead.

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Speaker 5: That's looking not a great pick. But whatever, my fantasy

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Speaker 5: him has other issues. What about Tyler Warren? What are

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Speaker 5: we dealing with him?

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Speaker 12: Look, originally I was going to talk Tucker Kraft and

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Speaker 12: say I am sorry for doubting him last week, but

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Speaker 12: you broke the news that he's up in the air

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Speaker 12: now with an injury. So Tyler Warren, Look, he had

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Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty five yards through two games. Brock

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Speaker 12: Bauer set the rookie record through two games last year

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Speaker 12: with one hundred and fifty six. He missed it by

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Speaker 12: one yard. That's how good Tyler Warren has been. And

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Speaker 12: I still don't think the best. We've seen the best yet.

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Speaker 12: We've seen those safe floor games. I think those big

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Speaker 12: like McBride, Bowers Kittle explosion type games are coming, and

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Speaker 12: it could be this week because the Titans don't generate

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Speaker 12: a lot of pressure and Danny Dimes has been money

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Speaker 12: this year from clean pockets, so if he is getting

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Speaker 12: time to throw, he's gonna pick that defense apart, largely

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Speaker 12: by going to Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 2: All Right, and Chris o'lave is also who we're asking about.

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Speaker 2: Where do you stand on him with regard to starting

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Speaker 2: or sitting.

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Speaker 12: I have him as they sit this week, and it's

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Speaker 12: not even Chris ol fall. I just don't really trust

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Speaker 12: the Saints' offense. Olave has been a safe floor option

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Speaker 12: for fantasy, but we really haven't seen much upside. In fact,

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Speaker 12: of all players with twenty targets this year, he has

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Speaker 12: the fewest yards. Second fewest is his teammate Juwan Johnson

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Speaker 12: and the Seahawks. They've allowed the second fewest yards to

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Speaker 12: wide receivers, the lowest completion percentage on passes two receivers.

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Speaker 12: The thing about floors, they get lowered when you have

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Speaker 12: a tough matchup and if Olave has been all floors

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Speaker 12: so far.

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Speaker 3: That's going to get lower.

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Speaker 12: I just think you could get away from Chris Alave

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Speaker 12: this week for you.

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Speaker 5: There's something kind of weird going on with the Giants

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Speaker 5: running back situation. We came into the year with Tyrone

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Speaker 5: Tracy as the starter. Cam Scattibell has played pretty well. Actually,

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Speaker 5: where do we stand on Tyrone Tracy on the Giants

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Speaker 5: start or sit?

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Speaker 12: I'm sitting him. I think if you start any running

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Speaker 12: back there this week, it's Cam Skattaboo. We saw last

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Speaker 12: week Tracy played just forty two percent of the snaps

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Speaker 12: and he had only five carries. The goal line work

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Speaker 12: went to Cam Skattaboo ran more routes, even though targets

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Speaker 12: did salvage the day for Tyrone Tracy. And the thing

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Speaker 12: about the Chiefs run defense, it's very good and it

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Speaker 12: makes life really tough on running backs. So if he's

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Speaker 12: already getting limited touches in a tough matchup, that is

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Speaker 12: a situation to avoid. And yeah, we didn't expect to

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Speaker 12: be sitting him three weeks in for Camp Scattaboo, but

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Speaker 12: we're quickly getting to that point.

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Speaker 1: All right, now to the pointed question part of the

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Speaker 1: program because we have questions about our own teams.

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Speaker 3: Get to it.

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Speaker 1: Look, I know you've been high on Trevion Henderson. You're

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Speaker 1: a big reason why I drafted him. We talked about

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Speaker 1: him plenty on the program. There are plenty of big

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Speaker 1: days to come, not only this season but in this future.

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Speaker 1: But am I in a position now where I need

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Speaker 1: to put him on the bench until we.

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Speaker 2: Start to see it.

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Speaker 12: A lot of people were hitting me up this week,

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Speaker 12: like you're sitting him right, And I almost came and

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Speaker 12: did it. But while I was researching him as they sit,

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Speaker 12: I was like, wait. The Steelers allow the most explosive

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Speaker 12: runs to running backs in the NFL. They have shut

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Speaker 12: down the bigger powerful backs like Zach sharpning averaged yard

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Speaker 12: per carry against him. They shut down Braylan Allen. But

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Speaker 12: the speed guys, Breese Hall, Kenneth Walker dash this Steelers defense.

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Speaker 12: So I'm giving Henderson one more rod. I think this

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Speaker 12: is the week. If he doesn't come through this week,

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Speaker 12: you could sit him until we see it happen. All Right,

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Speaker 12: that wasn't that important. Now let's get to something that

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Speaker 12: is important.

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Speaker 2: My fans say thing every week.

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Speaker 6: I got a tight end.

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Speaker 5: This Shark, and I say likely as my starting tight end.

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Speaker 5: He may or may not play this week they play Mondays.

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Speaker 5: What I think I'm going to try to do is

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Speaker 5: pick up some and off the waiver wire to start

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Speaker 5: him by likely some time and then start likely moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Who should I target on the waiver wire?

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Speaker 12: If Harold Brandon Junior is out there, and he's there

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Speaker 12: in about half of NFL dot com leagues, he is

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Speaker 12: my top pickup. But if he's not there, Hunter Henry,

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Speaker 12: I know he's coming off of a down game, but

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Speaker 12: he has a lot of chemistry there with Drake May

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Speaker 12: and if all else fails, Luke Musgrave from the Packers,

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Speaker 12: if Tucker Craft is out, he could see some targets there.

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Speaker 12: I actually picked him up in a league right before

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Speaker 12: this segment because I heard your report that Tucker Craft

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Speaker 12: might be dealing with anything, might be out, So I

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Speaker 12: picked up Luke Musgrave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, knowing Ian and his lack of scruples, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he picked him up before he even tweeted about Tucker Kraft.

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Speaker 2: And he's just pretending that doesn't sound like you, because

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Speaker 2: he is. He admitted on the air he's done that.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely does that Michael Mario. We got our money's

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Speaker 1: worth from you this week.

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Speaker 3: Pal.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to your insight throughout the entire season, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully I'll have a victory to tell you about come Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the insiders. Here is a look at

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Speaker 7: the five. It's five. Last week, I think I might

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Speaker 7: have said six, maybe three, but it's five marquee games

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Speaker 7: for this weekend. Lions, Ravens, Rams, Eagles. It's hard for

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Speaker 7: me to read some of these. Obviously Dolphins Bills. Tonight

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Speaker 7: you see the rest five games. It is time for

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Speaker 7: more key matchups. They've got animation for us and everything.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure you get the joke. Mar Key, I got Mark,

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Speaker 7: I got Baldy, I'm Judy. Let's talk about Markis this weekend,

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Speaker 7: and let's stick close to home. Mark Eagles, not Eagles.

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Speaker 7: We're going to start with the Giants, Chiefs and Giants.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, let's go Chiefs and Giants and Baldi gud someone's

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Speaker 11: oh's gotta go owing two teams would have thought KC

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Speaker 11: be sitting right here.

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Speaker 3: And for me this is intriguing because.

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Speaker 11: Is this finally the week that this Giants defense that

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Speaker 11: we all thought was going to dominate upfront, gets right

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Speaker 11: against a struggling Chiefs offense where Patrick Mahomes is the

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Speaker 11: leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: So this chief offense really struggled.

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Speaker 11: If he has to do that, can they get that

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Speaker 11: run game going or will that Giants front Baldy be

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Speaker 11: able to feast in the return of Steve Spagnolo to

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Speaker 11: the metal Lands.

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Speaker 10: I agree with you, Mark, I mean the Knsa City

884
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Speaker 10: Chiefs have not run the ball well at all. I

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Speaker 10: mean Patrick Mahomes is a sixteenth leeting rusher in the

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Speaker 10: NFL with one hundred and twenty three yards. But Pacheco

887
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Speaker 10: and Kareem Hunt have not been good. They weren't good

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Speaker 10: last week, they weren't good against the Chargers. And that

889
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Speaker 10: Giants defense right now much Ballyhood in the preseason, giving

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Speaker 10: up almost six yards a rush. So if the Chiefs

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Speaker 10: are going to get right in the run game, maybe

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Speaker 10: this is a defense to do it in or maybe

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Speaker 10: the Giants have a statement to say about it. And

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Speaker 10: then the other part to this Kannasy offense is they've

895
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Speaker 10: struggled to get explosive plays. Is this a defense where

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Speaker 10: you get down the field and maybe not Miss Taekwon

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Speaker 10: Thornton like they did last week on that particular throw.

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Speaker 7: It's been a rough go for those teams early on.

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Speaker 7: All right, next up, Ravens Lions. What say you, Mark Man?

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Speaker 7: This is going to be super fun.

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Speaker 11: Could be remnists of the Ravens Bills game a couple

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Speaker 11: of weeks ago with all this offensive playmakers, and we're

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Speaker 11: going to see whether the Detroit of Week one against

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Speaker 11: Green Bay, who struggled, or Detroit from last week who

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Speaker 11: put up fifty plus against the Bears.

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Speaker 3: Which Detroit team will we see? We know the Ravens

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Speaker 3: with that run game going lamar.

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Speaker 11: Doing spectacular things, we'll probably see from there, but will

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Speaker 11: their defense be able to hold up? And two years ago,

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Speaker 11: if you remember that, Ravens absolutely crushed the the Tree

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Speaker 11: Lions are in the regular season. Of course, that's a

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Speaker 11: couple of years later, but similar sort of styles that

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Speaker 11: we'll see. So I'm just going to sit back and

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Speaker 11: have fun, hopefully a lot of entertainment. I actually picked

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Speaker 11: this as my Super Bowl preview and preseason air Baldy,

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Speaker 11: so let's hope they both team up to that.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's interesting, Mark, because last week the Ravens

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Speaker 10: run game got completely shut down by Cleveland, and they look,

919
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Speaker 10: they put five guys up there, they put six guys

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Speaker 10: up to the line of scrimmage. They were determined to

921
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Speaker 10: take Derek Henry Lamar Jackson out of the run game,

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Speaker 10: and they did that. Lamar Jackson beat him with four

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Speaker 10: touchdown passes. And so that's that's just how good they are.

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Speaker 10: You can sell out to take something away. But Lamar

925
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Speaker 10: is seeing the field, well, he's the highest rated quarterback.

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Speaker 3: In this league.

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Speaker 10: Nobody's even close right now with the six touchdowns no interceptions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how he sees Derek.

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Speaker 10: I mean DeAndre Hopkins right there was amazing on that

930
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Speaker 10: scramble right here, and so I think Detroit's defense has

931
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Speaker 10: their their work cutout for him. But this might very

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Speaker 10: well be a fast break football game engineered by two

933
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Speaker 10: really good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's finish this up with a big divisional game,

935
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Speaker 7: Cardinals forty.

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Speaker 11: Nine ers another Someone's oh got to go. But on

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Speaker 11: the other way, two undefeated teams who would have thought,

938
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Speaker 11: just like k C not having a win, who would

939
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Speaker 11: have thought both of these teams would be undefeated, especially

940
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Speaker 11: with the injury to Brock Purty there for San Francisco,

941
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Speaker 11: Mac Jones filled in admirably last week against the Saints.

942
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Speaker 3: Can't say he's top tier, but can he get them

943
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Speaker 3: through another game if Brock Party is not ready to

944
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Speaker 3: go there?

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Speaker 11: And then on the other side, we know what Arizona

946
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Speaker 11: and Kyler Murray got out to the big league last

947
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Speaker 11: week and then just kind of stalled out Baldy. They

948
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Speaker 11: didn't do anything and the Panthers gave Panthers a chance

949
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Speaker 11: to get back in the game ultimately came up with

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Speaker 11: some stops. So a game to really see in a

951
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Speaker 11: division like are both of these teams one of these

952
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Speaker 11: teams actually legit or just a product of the schedule

953
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Speaker 11: the early schedule so far.

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Speaker 10: I like the way Arizona's defense is Playmarke and it's

955
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Speaker 10: interesting they lost both starting corners last week, both Max

956
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Speaker 10: Melton and Garrett Williams, so they had rookies out there.

957
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Speaker 10: Denzel Burke, their fifth round pick out of Ohio State,

958
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Speaker 10: was awesome. Will Johnson might have been the best rookie

959
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Speaker 10: in the NFL the first week of season in a

960
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Speaker 10: win against the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Both those guys have stood up, stood tall.

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Speaker 10: There'll be challenged whether it's Brock Perdy or Mac Jones

963
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Speaker 10: this week, They're going to get challenge on the outside

964
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Speaker 10: by San Francisco's passing game, and Mac Jones was very

965
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Speaker 10: good last week flipping those three touchdown passes, not turning

966
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Speaker 10: it over in the passing game. So I want to

967
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Speaker 10: see if the back end of this Cardinal defense can

968
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Speaker 10: hold up and give that front led by Josh Wett

969
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Speaker 10: and Kalayas Campbell and all the guys they brought in.

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Speaker 10: They got a good return on investment last week from

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Speaker 10: those guys they brought in free agency and through the draft.

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Speaker 10: Let's see if they can hold up to maybe claim

973
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Speaker 10: that first place spot right here in September.

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Speaker 3: With an undefeated record, it.

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Speaker 7: Does feel like the biggest game the Cardinals have played

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Speaker 7: in quite a while.

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Speaker 8: Guys, thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: Before we go to break, we want to remind everybody

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Speaker 7: where you can find us The Insiders. We're basically everywhere.

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Speaker 7: We've got a podcast, We're on YouTube, obviously, We're on

981
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Speaker 7: the NFL Network on Tuesday, Wednesdays and Fridays. We're here

982
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 7: on the Fast Channel today on Thursday. We're all over

983
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Speaker 7: the place, and find us The Insiders five days week.

984
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Speaker 7: Wherever you can find us we'd love to have you.

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Speaker 7: When we return, We're going to talk more about those

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Speaker 7: two and O teams.

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Speaker 1: Bringing it home here on the Insiders as we get

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Speaker 1: set for Thursday night football on Prime Video the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and the Bills, a divisional matchup that has been close

990
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Speaker 1: and high scoring when these teams have played in Buffalo

991
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Let's see if we will

992
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Speaker 1: get that once again today tonight, and whether the Bills

993
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Speaker 1: can remain undefeated. Here are your two and O teams

994
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Speaker 1: after the first two weeks of the season.

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Speaker 2: Some of them we expected to be there, some quite surprising.

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Speaker 1: Ian So with that being said, let's go to you

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Speaker 1: on which team maybe is the most surprising for you.

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Speaker 5: I will go with the Chargers, right And it's not

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Speaker 5: just because they started being the Kansas City Chiefs on

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Speaker 5: National TV and the fact that they backed it up

1001
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Speaker 5: again with another National TV win. It's that they look

1002
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Speaker 5: so tough and physical. They made a ton of plays

1003
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Speaker 5: They've done in the variety of ways. This defense looks nasty.

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Speaker 5: The Chargers are good, and I probably shouldn't have been

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Speaker 5: surprised by it.

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Speaker 7: It is the Indianapolis Colts, the Daniel Jones experiment, has

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Speaker 7: worked spectacularly well in the first two weeks. They are

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Speaker 7: running the ball really well, the defense is playing really well.

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Speaker 7: They are a complete team. They are the biggest surprise

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Speaker 7: to an OH team. They haven't been to an OH

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Speaker 7: since two thousand and nine. They won the Super Bowl

1012
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 7: that year.

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Speaker 2: Judy, I like the Buccaneers coming into the season.

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Speaker 3: I really did.

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Speaker 1: And so when I say that they're surprising or a surprising,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, it's because they played two games on the road.

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Speaker 1: They've had a bunch of injuries, including the Chris god

1018
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Speaker 1: to Mecca Buka has been a revelation.

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Speaker 2: We'll see about him playing potentially this weekend. So Todd

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Speaker 2: Bowles done a great job of navigating all this.

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Speaker 1: The late game heroics in both games, Todd Bowles got

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers off to a two and zero start, facing

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Speaker 1: his former team with a chance to go three and

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Speaker 1: ozer against the Jets this up oncoming weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: We are back on NFL Network on Friday as we

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Speaker 1: get you set for the rest of the week. Three

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Speaker 1: after reaction after tonight's Thursday football game, thank you