1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The most valuable commandity I know of this information. Wouldn't 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: you agree on five dollars? This is a regular up, 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: but they tackled shiite. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, good. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: Prose, the best, relentless, refusing to give up. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, baby bless. Welcome to the 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Action Network Fantasy Flex podcast. Here on the Fantasy Flex Feed, 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: I am your host, Chris Raybond, joined by my guy 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Sean Kerner, and and on this pod, we are going 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: to talk some waiver ads, We're gonna talk our instant 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: reactions to week one, and we'll give you some Monday 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: night football player props as well. Sirshan, what's going on? Man? 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: How's your Week one? It was? 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: It was pretty eventful, got all the things right, got 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: a few things wrong, and just there's so many surprises 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: that happened, you know, the forty nine ers running back situation, 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: just pure chaos. But I love it. I'm happy football's back. 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: How about you? How is your Week one? 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: It was? It was pretty profitable. You know, obviously there 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: was a couple there are a couple of things like 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I wish I could take back like Marcus Cowaway. You 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: you you were on top of that with Johnnie Alexander. 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I just didn't throw a lot in that 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: game either. Yeah, you know that, So that one wasn't great. 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: I even after talking down Kyle Pitts all like all season, like, 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I ended up using him on drafting, so that that 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: didn't go great either. But overall betting profitable Week one 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: DFS still profitable. And uh and yeah, so I'm excited 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: now that we have some data. We'll talk a lot 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: about usage and snaps and routes and and whoeveryone should 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: pick up. But I want to start and we'll go. 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: Let's go position by position year on the Fantasy Flex 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Prize Picks. I want to start by 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: just asking you about some quarterbacks who I think people 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: want to know the reactions because they would they are 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: they have to kind of start them. So Aaron Rodgers, 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: was I just a year or two early on this 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is done thing? Or is this just a 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: product of New Orleans having that really great coaching staff 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: all year to prepare because or was it because of this? 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: You know the chaos that happened with Rogers and maybe 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: he's not as into it. Maybe there was, like is 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: there was there some kind of letdown after coming so 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: close and maybe now it's just a combination like what 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: the hell happened with Aaron Rodgers and at thirty eighth 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: to three lows. 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out as well. It 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: is probably his worst start of his career, right, it 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: had to be. 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, right up there with the Tampa Bay and 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco, so those over the last. 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: Come Yeah, yeah, those are fun too, but you do 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: right away it was not meant to be. And yeah, 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: I just think with Rogers, I think they'll at the 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: off season stuff. It makes you wonder if that's what's. 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Leading to this. 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: You know, he wants out of there at the end 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: of the year, so I would assume it is playing 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: a role. But you know, I had the under on 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: this game because they moved it to Florida and you know, 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: Green Bay's a cold weather team. I thought that could 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: have an impact and maybe that did have a bigger 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: impact than people think, but they just did not look right. 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: I do think, you know, they'll get it. They'll write 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: the ship this week against the Lions. If they struggle 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: this week against Lions, that's the time to really start 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: to consider. You know, the off season probably did really 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: set the Packers back a ton, But I'm not panicked 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: quite yet. I think we can just kind of like 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: forget that game ever happened. When it comes to guys 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: like Aaron Jones DeVante Adams, I think if you can 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: by low on them now, you know, maybe there's an 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: owner out there that you know wants to get rid 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: of them. 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: So I'm not panicking quite yet. 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: But it does make you think that the offseason stuff 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: could be making an impact. 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: So I agree with everything you said right there except 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: the word if, because the Packers are absolutely getting right 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: against the Lions. I have the numbers in front of 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: me from that Lions game against the forty nine Ers, 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and this was with Brandon Ayuk not at full strength. 84 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: This was with Jimmy Garoppolo coming back from an injury. 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers completed eighteen of twenty six passes 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: and averaged eleven point five yards per attempt. Okay, the 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: Packers have a better quarterback and a better number one receiver. 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel put up a Davonte Adams line, Deebo Samuel 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: looked like Tyreek Hill. The Lions made Deebo Samuel look 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill, and we've won. This is the gart 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Rice spot for the Pack. Don't worry about Rogers. Next 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: quarterback is Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannehill looked and that whole 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: offense looked pretty bad. They couldn't run with Henry. Was 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: that just kind of a product you think of the 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals playing Henry well because we know Tannehill relies on 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: the play action. Was it? I don't I hesitate to 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: say it's Arthur Smith because Arthur Smith got the doors 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: blown off of his new squad as a favorite at 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: home by Philadelphia and a quarterback that no one thought 100 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: could throw. So, I mean, what's going on with tanneho Personally? 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I think it had a lot to do with Taylor 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Juan coming back from injury. 103 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: Yeah that and you know, Chandler Jones had a good game. 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: This game was a mess. And you know the past 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: couple years, I've bet against Ryan Tannehill and failed miserably, 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: and then I started backing up going into the season 107 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: and then he fails miserably. So I can't get Ryan 108 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: Tannehill right for the life of me. But I think, 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, he will bounce back this week, and if 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: you can buy law on him, I would do that 111 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: as well. But that game was definitely concerning to see. 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: I saw Rabel called out Julio Jones today, so things 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: could start to get messy there. But you know, I'm 114 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: fading the week one noise, and I think this is 115 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: a situation. We still want, you know, Derrick Henry, we 116 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: still want aj Brown, we still want Julio Jones, Winn. 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: He's healthy, So I try to builo him these guys 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: if you can. 119 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it gonna be as easy matchup as you 120 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: think against the Seahawks this week, you know, and they 121 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: do play They played good run defense, and they played 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: decently on the on the back end as well. So 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: but one of the higher total games of the week. 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Start Ryan. He's still starting Ryan tannaher this week. We 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: have another week with Julio and then Josh Allen. I 126 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: don't think we need to spend much time on him. 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: That's matchup against Pittsburgh, right, That's that's about all the Yeah. Yeah, 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: and he I mean he was airing it out. He 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: just missed on some balls. 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: The Josh Allen, he could be more inconsistent than we 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: saw last year, but I think he's just ready to 132 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: break out. I've been kind of fiddling with week one 133 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: week two projections, and he's my number one quarterback right now, 134 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: and actually Kyler Murray is now, but Josh Allen's there 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: right there, close second, so he's I'm still banking on 136 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: him being a top three quarterback the rest of the way. 137 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: All Right, So let's talk about guys you actually should 138 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: add on waivers. And I think the first guy that 139 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: comes to mind is Jamis Winston. Five touchdown passes against 140 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay. What do you think of Jamis and how 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: does he compare to I think my favorite ad is 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: probably Tyrod. You also have taha Heinike who's going to 143 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: start against the Giants. So where are you on Jamis 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: compared to some of the other options. 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's he was going off in the 146 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: game that I'm saying, which you just throw it away 147 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: because Jamis Winston is going to have that very high 148 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: ceiling which we saw, but you know, any given week 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: he come crashing down and Taysom Hill can still replace him. 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: I do feel a lot better about Jamis after Week 151 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: one though, of course, but I'd be careful with him, 152 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: and I'm projecting him he's my QB seventeen heading in 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: a week too. 154 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: We'll have to see how that works out. 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, he didn't get to throw that many pass 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: attempts in the end have five touchdowns, so I think 157 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: we could expect more yards. We can definitely expect more 158 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: yards from him going forward, but that touchdown rate is 159 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: certainly going to regress. So he's the guy that I'd 160 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: be careful just going all in and starting him over 161 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill this week, but definitely make sure he's not 162 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: available because if he figures it out under Sean Payton 163 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: and he really has limited you know, turnover where he throws, 164 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he's thrown one yet this season, including 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: the preseason, so if he figures out this year, you know, 166 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: he could absolutely be a QB one. So he's definitely 167 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: worth an AD. 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: So there's amount of streaming options this week. I think Tyrod. 169 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I think both quarterbacks in that Cleveland Houston game, Tyrod 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: going against Cleveland and then Baker Mayfield going against Houston. 171 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Both of those guys could be interesting. And then you 172 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: know is there any there's no real interest in Heinike. 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't think like you. I mean it should be 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: a low scoring game against the Giants, and the Giants 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: actually had their Washington number last year. 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Heinick would be an ad for the 177 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: rest of the season, and it seems like Ryan Fitzmagic 178 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: is going to be out for a long long time, 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: so I think you would add Heinike in a two 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: QB super flex leg where you want him for multiple 181 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: weeks if you're hurting at quarterback. But yeah, he's not 182 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: to play this week necessarily Giants. It's a pretty tough matchup. 183 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Should be a low scoring Thursday football game. I like 184 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater this week. Oh yeah against the Jaguars right now. 185 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: He's QB thirteen, probably gonna lower that, but he's more 186 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: of a high floor option. It certainly doesn't help that 187 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy is going to be out four to six weeks. 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk about the receiving situation in a bit, 189 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: but he does have a ton of weapons there, so 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: I think he's another good safe streaming option where he'd 191 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: give you, you know, solid QB two numbers this week against 192 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: the Jaguars. 193 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Teddy stands out. That's the guy I meant to 194 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: mention because I thought he looked good. I thought I 195 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: thought he looked good against the Giants, a defense that's 196 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: pretty well schemed, pretty tough to play. He made some 197 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: great second reaction plays and things like that. And he 198 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: was hitting guys. It wasn't just Judy, you know, he 199 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: was hitting. He was hitting the tight ends. He was 200 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: getting the ball down. I mean, kJ Haml dropped something 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: like a fifty sixty our touchdown on a great throw 202 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: from Bridgewater. So he was making the right reads. He 203 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: was moving around well. I thought he was making some second, 204 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: second reaction plays. He wasn't just a robot. So in Jacksonville, 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: by the way, I mean quick any quick reactions on 206 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: this Jacksonville dumpster fire, which was obviously like no one 207 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: wanted to like admit it. Like everyone was kind of like, oh, 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Euston is going to be that one team, but here 209 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: lo and behold, Jacksonville is going to be the reason 210 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: why everyone has a low strength of schedule more than Houston. 211 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, that was that was pretty bad. But we 212 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: did kind of call it. We were saying, you know, 213 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: take the Texans here, but that was really bad. You know, 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence made some bad decisions. You know, I think 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: at the end of the day he's going to figure 216 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: it out, but it might take a couple of games. 217 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, this, this Jaggar's team is a team that 218 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: we want to attack in terms of fantasy especially you know, 219 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: streaming defenses right now. But that was that was not pretty. 220 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: They do look like they're gonna be a pretty pass 221 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: heavy team though, so I'm still interested in guys like 222 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: Leabisca Chanault. Even DJ Chark and Marvin Jones look good, 223 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: so I'm still interested in the wide receivers. But outside that, yeah, 224 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: this team looks really really bad. 225 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, an underrated guy maybe 226 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: a little deeper because I don't expect it to be 227 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: a big pass heavy game script. But Mac Jones looked 228 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. And the Jets defense, I think Mac Jones 229 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: is already better than Sam Darnold, and so there's a 230 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: chance that just on pure efficiency, he could go off 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: for like three touchdowns. I just don't think the Patriots 232 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: have to throw thirty nine times. Again, I don't think 233 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: the Jets are going to be able to kind of 234 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: stay in front of them like the Dolphins did. But 235 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Get him on a radar because he might 236 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: be really good. I love some of the ball placement. 237 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: Did you get to see any of Mac? Yeah? 238 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: I have the Dolphins plus three and a half, so 239 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: I was watching that game pretty closely, and yeah, that 240 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: defense is really good against rookie quarterbacks. They like to 241 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: disguise coverages and blitzes. So that was a really tough 242 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: matchup for mac Jones to start this week. I don't 243 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: think he's gonna have to throw that much for them 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: to win, So I agree. I think when we get 245 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: to a game where we're gonna expect a more pass 246 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: heavy game script, mac Jones looked really, really good. So yeah, 247 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: he's the guy you certainly want to add in deeper leagues. 248 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's a stash guy almost because like the 249 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: thing is that Dolphins defense, you know, good secondary, But 250 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: this is a week where like they might have to throw. 251 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: But mac Jones could go like James Winston, Like he 252 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: could go like eighteen of twenty three from like four 253 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: touchdowns and then everyone's gonna add him regardless. So he 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: might as well kind of get a week ahead of that, 255 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: just because I mean, I saw someone throws that saw 256 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: out of him and just the poise, I think he's 257 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna be good. 258 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: So and that's that's a good point because it's gonna 259 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: have to come from touchdowns. He's probably not gonna throw 260 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: a ton of three hundred yard passing games. He's not 261 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: going to rush for much, so you know, unfortunately it's 262 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: gonna come down a touchdown luck, but certainly, you know, 263 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: two to three touchdown games for him should happen soon. 264 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, the thing with him, he does have limited 265 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: upside just because the Patriots probably won't need to throw 266 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: that much this year if they defenses as good as 267 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: I think they'll be. And yeah, no rushing upside to 268 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: speak of. He's He's definitely more of a high floor 269 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: two QB super flex kind of quarterback in my eyes. 270 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Pory's Tom Brady. You did it with no rushing on 271 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: New England, right and right. Yeah, I mean it was 272 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: a good start, is all I'm saying. I mean, even 273 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: though they lost a game, I just thought it was 274 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: a really good start for Mac and all the rookie quarterbacks. 275 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really everyone's already added fields and Lance, 276 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: but you know, Lance throws a touchdown, fields gets into 277 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: the ends. I mean, it was a good It was 278 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: a good start for these guys. Zach Wilson comes back 279 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: late and shows some good stuff. You know. Lawrence, I 280 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: think maybe the most disappointing, just because you had the 281 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: turnovers you had. You lost to a team that we 282 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: expected you to beat. But yeah, I thought generally speaking, 283 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: it was a pretty good showing for the rookies. Uh 284 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: but let's speaking of Lawrence, Let's go to running back 285 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: here and and James Robinson. I want to I want 286 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: to start with him, actually because I just five carries 287 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: to Carlos hides nine. I know that Houston got up 288 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: out in front of Jackson's but but it seemed like 289 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the game plan from the jump was going to be 290 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: very pass heavy. Any thoughts on Robinson, because I mean, 291 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: we loved Robinson headed into the year. We thought he 292 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: would just go back to doing what he was doing, 293 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: and I mean they would throw it to him a 294 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: little bit here and there, but it just didn't seem 295 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: like he was given that kind of respect that he 296 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: deserved from the coaching staff given what he did last year. 297 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was not a good start for James Robinson. 298 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: He was my RB six this week, so that was 299 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: a huge fail on my part, and I said, like, look, 300 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: he's probably gonna go off this week. Sell high because 301 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: he's probably going to settle in as a low to 302 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: you know, low mid range RB two. I thought, because 303 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: I pointed out many times that they're about eleven games 304 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: last year where no other running back had to carry, 305 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: and I just thought, you know, Carlos Hyde's going to 306 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: be a pretty competent backup. He's going to have a 307 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: bigger role than any other running back last year. So 308 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: I was kind of worried about Robinson in that regard. 309 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: But this is bad. Like if you can't have a 310 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: good game against the Texans, you're in big trouble. Carlos Hyde, 311 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: like you said, he out rushed him. The only positive, 312 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: The only positive was Robinson did run her out sixty 313 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: three percent of the time. I think he will be 314 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: that pass catching back, which is good news because his 315 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: Jaguars team is gonna be terrible. So, you know, PPR formats, 316 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: he probably does have RB two value. But yeah, this 317 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: this looks really bad. I don't know, I don't even 318 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: know if you can sell high at this point. I 319 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: don't know who's going to take him, but he's he's 320 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: more of a low end RB two going forward. 321 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: I fear forty six snaps to Carlos hides twenty five, 322 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: thirty six pass plays to Cardinals hides fourteen, So it 323 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: was just a carry, So you really there's there's there's 324 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: there's potential for turnaround here, but there's a lot more 325 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: uncertainty than we've thought about like coming into the year. 326 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: So you would think. 327 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Carlos Hydrid factor in a little bit more if the 328 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Jaguars had a positive game script. So it's really scary 329 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: that Carlos hid was disinvolved and what was prety much 330 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: a blowout, So it's definitely panic times. 331 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and definitely add high if, like you know running backs, 332 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: we know how tough it is to find those guys. 333 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, for now, you have a guy that 334 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: was weeding his backfield and carries in week one. I 335 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: think he's worse an ad Uh and maybe not as 336 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: much as Elijah Mitchell. I think you do have to 337 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: add Elijah Mitchell as that priority guy. And I don't 338 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: know if you want to even buy low on trace 339 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: sermon because he how Shanahan said the reason Sermon was 340 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: a healthy scratch. Was Mitchell beat him out and Michael 341 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Hasty beat him out. So you have a rookie and 342 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: a fellow rookie who had West Draft pedigree. That's a 343 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: bad sign. And you had a guy that was already 344 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: in the system for a year that a lot of 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: people had like fifth or six on the depth chart. 346 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: And they also had another veteran of wing goalman that 347 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: they released, and Sermon still couldn't climb with the chart. So, 348 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning of the year, like 349 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: this is forty nine is bafoe? We're not going no, 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: but I'm going Mitchell here. 351 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, especially after week one, I don't blame you. 352 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: And we kind of called this heading into the season. 353 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: I said, you know, it's always the running back. We 354 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: least expect to be kind of goes off in this backfield, 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: and sure enough, week one it's already happened. Tray Shermon 356 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: was inactive, and you did make a good point that 357 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: you don't even want to be involved in this headache. 358 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who the hell is going 359 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: to be because I wouldn't be surprised if Trey Shermon 360 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: plays this week gets twenty touches and is you know, 361 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: borderline RB one like would not surprise me at all. 362 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, right now, Elijah Mitchell, you should probably use 363 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: your number one waiver just because we typically don't see 364 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: backup running backs as much on the waiver wire anymore. 365 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: So I think now's the time to add a guy 366 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: like this because he might be this year's Jeff Wilson 367 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: from last year. So I think he's definitely worth the flyer. 368 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: But again, you called it. It's going to be a 369 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: week to week decisions going to be very volatile. But 370 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: I think that the fact that Mozer is out it 371 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: sounds like eight plus games, it does make me want 372 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: to invest in this and try to figure it out. 373 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: So I think if you can buy a law on 374 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: trace sermon I'm talking about like RB three RB four value, 375 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: I don't think you get that, but I would definitely 376 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: be interested in buying low on sermon just because he 377 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: does have that massive upside. 378 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: But this is going to be very tricky week two week. Yeah, 379 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm off sermon, like I I just think I think 380 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: coming into the year, we were just going on draft pedigree. 381 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I think the fact that we knew he was fourth 382 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: on the depth chart, Like that's that's a lot of 383 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: guys to pass, Like, yeah, him most it always gets hurt. 384 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: But like for the rest of these guys, I mean, 385 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: now you're just betting on injury. So I don't think 386 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: it's like I would just go all in on on 387 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Mitchell and you know, Hasty would kind of be the 388 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: guy I have in the holster. I think the fact 389 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: that we know he was number three on the depth chart, 390 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the fact that we know they were willing to make 391 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: them a scratch, that doesn't bode well for any time, 392 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: like in terms of a waiver. Add if if another 393 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: couple guys go down, sure, but yeah, I don't. I 394 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: just think that was a really bad sign. Let's go 395 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: to Houston. Mark Ingram knew it might be disgusting, but 396 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: he had twenty six carries. Ingram thirty six snaps, David 397 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Johnson twenty two, Philip Lindsay twenty, Rexburg had ten, So 398 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: there are a lot of snaps going out, Like this 399 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: is a high volume play game for Jacksonville. So Ingram 400 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: still played under half of the total snaps. But so 401 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a priority the same way Mitchell's 402 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think that line is good. I don't 403 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: think Ingram is as good. So I think Ingram's more 404 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: of a cell high. What do you think, absolutely sell high. 405 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: The Texans aren't going to provide too many game scripts 406 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: like this going forward. I think Ingram definitely took advantage of, 407 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, the Texans blowing out the Jaguars. So he's 408 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: absolutely a cell high. But you know, I think he 409 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 2: is there starting running back going forward and like probably 410 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: the most valuable back to own right now there. But 411 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, if you could flip them for basically anybody 412 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: that's startable, I would do it. 413 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you had you had four backs working, 414 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: and that just creates, you know, from like just a 415 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: mathematical standpoint, the bat increases like another like twenty five 416 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: percent over the other backfields. 417 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like this week at Cleveland, right, they're twelve 418 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: point twelve point dot, Like, do you really think mark 419 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: Ingram's getting twenty three carries? Absolutely not so carries eight yards, 420 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: no touchdowns. It's pretty much That's what I was gonna say, 421 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: almost a similar line. So yeah, this is absolutely a 422 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: sella high situation with mark. 423 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Ingram, Zack Moss droppable, Yes, healthy scratch, get them out 424 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: of here next so you're just healthy week web scratch, 425 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: you're done with them done, I mean, And in terms 426 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: of like he does, he's like we always say right 427 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: like you you always do a good point of pointing 428 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: us out, like always stash your bench with high upside 429 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: running backs. Like now that we've seen week one and 430 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: we know where these guys are in the depth chart, 431 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: there's just better opt Like mark Ingram still a better 432 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: option than Zack Moss because he's playing nearly to snaps 433 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: in the backfield right like Zack Moss is essentially because 434 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: he's not playing special teams. He's forts on the depth 435 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: tarck like they were using Isaam Kenzie in the backfield 436 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: and they seem fine. So yeah, I like Cordell Patterson 437 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: next guy up. I would add him over because he's 438 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: he's there. They're using him as the true RB two there, 439 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: so it's like he's worth more in the immediate future, 440 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: which is what you're kind of doing with these waiver ads. Anyway. 441 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: You should have your starters already, so you're just looking 442 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: for guys that like, Okay, five weeks come up, guys 443 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: go down. I just need guys to plug and play, 444 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: and Zack Moss might just be a zeer a goose 445 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: egg for as long as we know. 446 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree, But if Singletary were to miss time, 447 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: you don't you think Zach Moss would be like an 448 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: RB three flex at least? Are you of the Matt 449 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: Brida fan club with well. 450 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Breed who's active over him 451 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: doesn't spell is not because it brings also a better 452 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: pass catching back, so that like, again, this is a 453 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: it's like how we get into trouble with these assumptions 454 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: in the first place. It's more excusable I think after 455 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: week before a week one, because we're just using our 456 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: educated guesses, right, But now it's like we know what 457 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: these coaches are thinking. They've they've showed their hands. So 458 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: like let's say Singletary goes down, we might say, oh 459 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: plug Zach Mawson, and the coaches may be thinking, okay, 460 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: Matt Breed a two thirds of the snaps, Moss one third, right, right, 461 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, Like to me, it's just I just don't 462 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: think it's worth it. I think you go with the 463 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: you go what you know here, cause it's it's like 464 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: like a high upside bench guy would be a guy like, 465 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, like a Patterson. It's like, I like still 466 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: the guys I like the talent with, but that at 467 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: least will be active, Like I don't want a guy 468 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: that could be a scratch like that. Just that's yeah. Yeah, 469 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: So Patterson, what'd you think of him? Got got more 470 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: yards and Mike Davis even though you got about how 471 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: many carries. 472 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 2: But talk about another semi This is you know, not 473 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: as surprising as Tray Sermon or Zach Musk, but Wayne 474 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: Golman being inactive is a bit of a surprise. And yeah, 475 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: Cordell Patterson is the number two back, but they were 476 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: using him as a true gadget player. He's lining up 477 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: every where. I think you line up in the slot 478 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: a bit. This Falcons offense looks completely different. They ran 479 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of two tight end sets. So you know, 480 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: Cordell Patterson could be the sort of Swiss army knife 481 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: we've expected him to be his entire career. He might 482 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: actually have a breakout season. So if if Mike Davis 483 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: were to go down, Patterson would. 484 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: Be the guy. 485 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: It seems that would potentially become you know, an RB 486 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: three kind of flex option. So yeah, I'm all for 487 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: swapping Patterson out if you have Zach Moss dropping him 488 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: for Cordell Patterson, I can certainly get behind that. 489 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the Jets backfield this year. Yeah, I'm trying 490 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: to look at the snaps right now just so I could. Okay, 491 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: so we had Oh, so I called this in my 492 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm doing like a little weekly matchup column for all 493 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: the Sunday games now and it would be an Action 494 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Network dot com coming out Saturday, so look out for that. 495 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: But I called this tie. I said, Todd Johnson, he's 496 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: if there's going to be a high end approach like 497 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: I was on Michael Carter earlier in the offseason, but 498 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: obviously negative news on him. I was like, Yo, Tody 499 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: Johnson probably be the guy lo and behold he plays 500 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: thirty five snaps, Kevin Coleman seventeen, Michael Carter sixteen. So 501 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actually like I would I would rather 502 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: have a guy like Ty Johnson on my roster than 503 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: a Zach Moss who's going to be an active at 504 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: least or could be in active, just because I think 505 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: Tdy Johnson actually has shown things in a past. I 506 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: think he's had some he's added some explosiveness, you know, 507 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: So I'm fine with Ti Johnson. Tevin Coleman had nine carries, 508 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: Johnson at eight, I believe it was, but I could 509 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: see that switching because Johnson's kind of the main pass back. 510 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on that. First of all, this this is 511 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: a nightmare. If there were any backfield to kind of 512 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: avoid right now would be the Jets. The offensive line 513 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: was brutal and Mackay Beckton is going to be out 514 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: multiple weeks now, So it's like, do we really want 515 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: to invest in a three way time share behind a 516 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: horrible offensive line on a horrible team. 517 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Probably not. 518 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: But we were saying that Michael Carter probably going to 519 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: start the year off really really slow, really bad, so 520 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: he could get dropped in your league. And I think 521 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: by the end of the year, Michael Carter will probably 522 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: be leading this backfield. So he's still a guy that 523 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: I keep my eye on long term, But right now 524 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: I want nothing. 525 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: To do with this. Yeah, I mean, I think Ty 526 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Johnson and Michael Carter there two best backs in that backfield. 527 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: So I'm again this is this is for people that 528 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: are in a pinch in week one going into week two. 529 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it'll be a great game, 530 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: but it like matchup against New England, but the Jets 531 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: will probably be behind, which means more snaps for Johnson, 532 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: who played twenty pass snaps to Carter's ten and Coleman's five. Yeah, 533 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: so I just think short term, Ty Johnson, I think 534 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: he's the He's clear with the leader from the snap counts, 535 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: leading Pass down Back PPR league. You need somebody, Uh, 536 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: he's the guy. Let's go to anything else at the 537 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: running back were good on that. 538 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: We do we miss anything, we're good. We'll cover a 539 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: lot more tomorrow, but I think we're good for now. 540 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So as we mentioned, we're you know, doing a 541 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: fantasy fex five days a week now Sean and I 542 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: three times a week. You know, we have the main 543 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: big matchup by matchup episode coming out tomorrow and then wait, 544 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: in a week, we'll have our props episode. So let's 545 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: go to why receiver and tight end these guys? This 546 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: is a less important position. I think usually you're looking 547 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: for quarterback, streamers or running backs. But I didn't get 548 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: a chance to look at the route numbers yet. How 549 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: did it break out between kJ Hamler and Tim Patrick 550 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: in that Giants Broncos game because we know Jerry Judy's 551 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: going to be. 552 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: Out for a month or more. So Hamler finished with 553 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: fifty percent routes run and Patrick was sixty five percent. 554 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: But Patrick was getting playing time in targets before Judy 555 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: went down. I mean, it looks like Bridgewater loves Tim Patrick. 556 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: So we were kind of calling out before the year started, 557 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: like if anybody goes down, Tim Patrick's probably the guy 558 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: to add, but kJ Hamler has this massive upside, so 559 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: I think, you know, both guys are definitely worth adding 560 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: in your league. But it seemed like Tim Patrick was 561 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: like going to be the guy that's going to see 562 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: over eighty percent of the routes this week, so he's 563 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: probably the biggest beneficiary. And then of course you know 564 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: Cortland Sutton could see more targets become a more consistent 565 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: Fantasy starter. But yeah, those are the routes fifty sixty 566 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: five percent. 567 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's still Patrick number one for me, 568 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: as much as I love the second year breakout of 569 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: pay of a guy like Handler, and he did drop 570 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: like a fifty six yard touchdown, but that's the point, 571 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: like there's a there's a non zero chance that when 572 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's not out there, that Tim Patrick is the 573 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: best Bronco receiver. Like he's a He's a very unsung player. 574 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Last season he had five for one nineteen, six for one, 575 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: thirteen in a touch and four for one on one. 576 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: He had three one hundred yard games last year. A 577 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: lot of people don't remember that he's the Zach Pascal 578 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: for the Broncos, and he might be better, like I 579 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: mean Pascal open, but like Tim Patrick, I think is 580 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: actually a pretty good receiver that the Broncos just happened 581 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: to have a somewhat of an embarrassment of riches at 582 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: that position. But you know, they also have a lot 583 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: of injuries. So uh Patrick was and then in addition 584 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: to those three hundred yard game, he outs had another 585 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: multi touchdown game mixed in and so he was a 586 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: pretty valuable receiver all things considered that he was free 587 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: last year fifty one catches, seven hundred and forty two 588 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: yards and six touchdowns in fifteen games. So Tim Patrick 589 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: would be the guy that I would expect that I 590 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: would be willing to kind of take a flyer on 591 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Callaway did nothing in Week one. I think he's 592 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: still playable. I just don't. I think it was like 593 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: the matchup, But I do worry a little bit that 594 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: the Saints will be a lower volume pass pass offense. 595 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? 596 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was definitely worried about CALLOWI going into the 597 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: season in Week one because of the matchup with Jared Alexander. 598 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: But you know, given how good Jamis Winston looked and 599 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: it does look like, you know, he has a lot 600 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: more job security going forward, I think that does help Callaway. 601 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: And you know, a matchup against the Panthers, he could 602 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: break loose for a couple of big plays. 603 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: He's still kind. 604 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Of right up there on that wide receiver three flex 605 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: fringe for me. So I wouldn't panic necessarily a week one. 606 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: I already kind of thought he was gonna struggle week one, 607 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: so you know, he might be a bi loo candidate. Honestly, 608 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: and this is coming from somebody that was probably bearish 609 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: on him going in this season, I just think with 610 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: Jamis Winston looking as good as he did, that's kind 611 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: of why I'm still believing in Callaway. 612 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and then first of contact, Colwaway eighty eight percent 613 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: of routes run Deontay Harris was second on the team 614 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: with just sixty and they didn't. 615 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: They didn't have to throw much either, So yep, going forward, 616 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: that's it's going to bounce back the other way. 617 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the routes are there for Callaway, so yeah, I 618 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: would still I would still be comfortable using him any 619 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: love for anything outside of Lamb and Cooper in Dallas. 620 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: With Michael Gallup expected to miss a month or more, 621 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson seemed like the guy to take over Dallas 622 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: has kind of supported three wide receivers in the past. 623 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: Fredrick Wilson all the way. For me, I'm still pardon me, 624 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm still mourning the loss of Michael Gallup. That that's 625 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: a really tough blow for me. He looked really good 626 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: when he was in the game. But I just think 627 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be more Mary Cooper, Morisey Lamb, and 628 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: you know, Cedric Wilson. I'm still projecting him like three 629 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: and a half catches a game going forward, So he's 630 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: He's definitely a good guy to add in deeper leagues 631 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: for sure. I mean, most of these guys should be rostered. 632 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: But any thoughts on Kirk Pascal, Deontay Harris Harris sixty 633 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: percent of the routes. That's probably not enough. But what 634 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: about what do you think about Kirk and Pascal. I 635 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: think Kirk might is worth kind of keeping around here 636 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: because that Cardinal is going to be like a four 637 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: deep Cardinal offense going to be a four deep offense. 638 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: And Kirk was always a guy that was running, you know, 639 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: like eighty ninety percent of routes as it was. I 640 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me. Yeah, it's 641 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: he's the guy that stands out to me. 642 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might be a cell high guy, even 643 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: though I kind of favored him out of this trio 644 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: behind Hopkins because I thought, you know, Rondelle Moore is 645 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: going to see his targets, but he has a lower 646 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: ceiling just based on his playing style. And then AJ 647 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: Green probably just going to run a ton of routes 648 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: and maybe distract the defender. So I thought Kirk could 649 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: have a sneaky good season. But Week one he scores 650 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, so I think he's going to be overrated. 651 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: And he only ran sixty percent. Oh yeah, yeah, so 652 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: that's down, yeah, because he was eight to ninety. 653 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: Last year, AJ Green ran ninety percent of the routes, 654 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: so you kind of And Rondale Moore only ran forty 655 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: percent of the routes and he was a target monster, 656 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: so he saw target thirty six percent of the time 657 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: he was running her out. So if you figure, I 658 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: don't know why he wouldn't, his routes run should go 659 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: over fifty, I would say by this week that's going 660 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: to hurt Kirk long term. Even if Kirk sees a 661 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: spike and routes run, I think just Aj Green, they 662 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: made it clear he want they want him on the field, 663 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, pretty much eighty five ninety percent of the time. 664 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: So I would say sell high end Kirk. It's still 665 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: a mess behind Hopkins and it it does look like 666 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: runnowt More could be that sneaky guy that I think, 667 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: will you know his value is only going. 668 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: To go up? Yeah, I love More. More is More 669 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: is the I think the queer ad I'm holding Kirk though, 670 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: Like I think Green is the guy that it'll take 671 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: a few games and they'll realize that he was the 672 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: same exact thing that he was last year. I mean 673 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: I saw one of the he had this end zone 674 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: target where it just seemed like the defender was literally 675 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: like you know when you play Madden and like like 676 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: you're you're you have like the computer turned up all 677 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: the way to all Madden, Like it just seemed like 678 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: the defender was like twice as fast as Ada Green 679 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: and just like batt at a touchdown potential touchdown away from him. Yeah, 680 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: I think he's the guy. I think they're gonna real 681 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: because Kirk can play on the outside, so I think 682 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: they you can kind of more is gonna be that 683 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: gadgets kind of slot. You know, he can play everywhere too, 684 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna kind of scheme him things. 685 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: But Kirk, you could just kick him outside on you know, 686 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: in like two wide sets and and bring Green off 687 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: the bet. So I think Green is a guy. If 688 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: he puts up any kind of staff, I'm selling him probably. 689 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I'd probably drop him even now. And I'd rather have 690 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: Kirk because I don't think green boat is going to continue, 691 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: and even if it does, he's not he might not 692 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: do anything so low on aj Green. And then in Detroit, 693 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean we saw every wide receiver play because Tyrell 694 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: Williams you mentioned that he was out there every snap, 695 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: but then he goes down and so we see like 696 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: every wide receiver here are we still how do we 697 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: feel about amman Ras Saint Brown now that we've seen 698 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, one game he was he ran up fifty 699 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: routes on seventy one pass plays for Detroit. Yeah, it 700 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't too great. Not gonna lie. 701 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: I expected probably a lot more out of him, But 702 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: we'll have to see what's up with Terrell Williams. 703 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: I think if he is out, I think Saint. 704 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Brown will eventually be you know, the guy, well, the 705 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: guy in the wide receiver room. However, I think we've 706 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: said this a million times by now, but this is TJ. 707 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: Howkinson's Yeah, if anything, just I'm all about TJ. Howkinson 708 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: and then just kind of the scraps left over for 709 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: the receivers I'm ignoring right now. 710 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: It was kind of a mess. 711 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: You had guys like Cliff Raymond lead the team and 712 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: routes run. Quintess Sifez did look good in his limited 713 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: playing time, So just it's kind of a mess for 714 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: the wide receivers. I just hope you got TJ. Hawkinson. 715 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: Like I said, he looked really good. So I think 716 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: going forward, TJ Hawkinson, TJ Howkinson is gonna be the 717 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: only pass catcher. I'm interested outside of DeAndre expect of 718 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: course he looked really good as a pass catcher, but 719 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: out of the wide receiver tight end room, I'm all 720 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: about Hawkinson. 721 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also if you drafted Jamal Williams forgets like 722 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: good calling that because like that was I know, he 723 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: was like one of those like if I was doing 724 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: like a hero running back or like a zero RB 725 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: best ball, like I was getting a lot of him, 726 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: and but I don't know what to think. So I'm 727 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: actually really happy in Jamal Williams too. Yeah, I did. 728 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: So Goff dumped it off to them twenty target Yeah 729 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: for those running backs go yep, yeah, that's. 730 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: A Jared Goff offense, I guess. But he was competent, 731 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, like it wasn't like he was terrible. So yeah, 732 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson shouts to our guy Raheem Palmer with the 733 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: tenth what was a tenth round pick? I think, well 734 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: right after it took Dallas Goddard. It's still too early, 735 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: but it worked two touchdowns from Johnson and on two catches. 736 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: So what do you do with him now? Is he 737 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: is he add? Is he a sell? If you have him? Like, 738 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: how do you approach this? Given that you know, he 739 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: pretty much did the best possible that he could do. 740 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: But he ran a route on only ten of twenty 741 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: five dropbacks. That's just forty percent weston Adam Troutman, by 742 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: the way, who was eighteen of twenty five, or seventy. 743 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: Seventy five percent for Troutman. So I think that's going 744 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: to be more sustainable. It would not surprise me if 745 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: this is Juwan Johnson's best game. So that's typically you 746 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: want to sell high, but you know, the targets are 747 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: why open right now without Michael Thomas. So we talked 748 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: about Marquez Callaway struggling in week one, so guys like 749 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: Jawan Johnson they still do have upside. 750 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: He could we don't know, he could end up. 751 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: Running over fifty percent of the routes this week after 752 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: his good performance. So he's not necessarily you know, a 753 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: drop right now, especially after catching two touchdowns. But if 754 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: you want to flip them for somebody, I would certainly 755 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: do it. Troutman did look like, you know, he's going 756 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: to be the leading pass catcher. Like we said, seventy 757 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 2: five percent routes round that's really high for a tight end. 758 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: Granted there weren't that many passing attempts to go around, 759 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: but I think Troutman is still the guy projecting for 760 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: more targets out of this tight end group. 761 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: And remember this still generally has to be a run 762 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: heavy offense just because they don't have Michael Thomas, they 763 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: don't have Trey Qwan Smith. The way the tight end 764 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: snaps broke down was Adam Troutman fifty one, Garrett Griffin seventeen, 765 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson twelve. So in weeks, you know, there could 766 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: be weeks like this where you know, Johnson doesn't catch 767 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: those two touches, he straight up goose egg. So yeah, 768 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: I would definitely. I mean, I think he's gonna earn 769 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: his way into more time as well, because he's just 770 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: a good pass catcher. He's a converted wide out. But 771 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: I would I would hold. If I couldn't sell, I 772 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't drop, but I would hold right because I think 773 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: there is that outside chance that he turns into like 774 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: Logan Thomas or Darren Waller, just because there is there's 775 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: an opening here. But at the same time, I think 776 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: the best thing you could possibly do is use those 777 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: two touchdowns to get like someone a little more useful, 778 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, and and kind of guy reliable, I guess 779 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: I should say. But and Tony Jones, I forgot to 780 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: mention him at running back. He played thirty five percent 781 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: of the snaps twenty two to Alvin Kamaras forty six, 782 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: so no other halfback played. That's good news from Jones 783 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: if you, you know, you kind of pencil him into 784 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: that Tavious Murray roll. He's in it, and he graded 785 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: out really well in PFF two. So yeah, Tony Jones, 786 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: make sure he's not available in your league. All right 787 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: now it is time, oh one more real quick. Mike 788 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: Gasicki no catches. Patriots usually do a good job of 789 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: taking away key guys. Seem like Gasicki was a guy 790 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: over a while. But any are you panicked yet on 791 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: on Mike Giziki, Yeah. 792 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm panicking. He ran arout sixty percent of the time. 793 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: That's not ideal. They're gonna get Will Fuller back this week. 794 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: More competition for targets and an offense that I don't 795 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 2: think is gonna throw a ton It was pretty dink 796 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: and dunk. That could have been just you know, facing 797 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: the Patriots, But since Gaseiki was kind of on that 798 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: tight end, one to two fringe anyway, he kind of 799 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 2: falls into the waiver wire territory now. So yeah, I'm 800 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: definitely panicking on Gasiki. 801 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd keep him. I do it like a wait 802 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: and see week, just because the Patriots and Week one. 803 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: I think there's a certain way of you know, it's 804 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: when you talk about guys on the field. I'll give 805 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: him another week. Like the guys, I'm really worried about it. 806 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: The guys are straight up scratches. But yeah, I think 807 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: I made a joke over the offseason with rich Reebar 808 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: that like durham smythe would be like the guy that 809 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: gets catches for the Dolphins. 810 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure and just about as many routes Asiki. 811 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: So he's one. Every once in a while. There's just 812 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: some guys on these teams that don't get talked about, 813 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: but that team just like and like Derm Smike is 814 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: obviously wanted them. But all right now we're gonna do 815 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: our prize picks a week entry segment, and let's do 816 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: it for this Monday night Baltimore Raiders game. It's in Vegas. 817 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: Who do you like for your prize? Creick entry for 818 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: tonight's action Tyson Williams to go over sixty two and 819 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: a half rushing yards. Obviously, you know one of the 820 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: main storylines going in this game as JK. Dobbins on 821 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: IRUs Edwards on ir. So this is Tyson Williams backfield. 822 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: I guess until Latavius Murray potentially Le'Veon Bell learned the offense. 823 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: But that's why I do like the over tonight. I 824 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 2: think this is a very challenging offense to learn in 825 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: a week. You know, they run that complicated zone read 826 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: play with Lamar Jackson that Tyson has at least had 827 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: the offseason to practice with, so I think he gets 828 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: the lion chairs of carries tonight. They kind of led 829 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 2: him audition for the rest of the season, and he 830 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: puts up over seventy rushing yards I'll say tonight. So 831 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: I do like this number up to about sixty four 832 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: to sixty five and a half. Yeah, Tyson has to 833 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: be there. We'd back at least for a week. 834 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: Everyone else in that backfield really hasn't been with the team. 835 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: You made a great point that Lamar Jackson there's a 836 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: chemistry aspect to that because you have all that option 837 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: stuff where he can put it in your belly and 838 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: then take it out. So remember last year they had 839 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: the center issues with Skura in Jackson, so you don't 840 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: want to have the handoff issues. So Williams has had 841 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: a great camp. I think for at least one week 842 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: he is a kind of a low end running back too, 843 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: or a flex and then we'll kind of go from there. 844 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he could play himself into more work and fend 845 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: off Murray. But for my prize pick elite entry, I'm 846 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: going with Hunter Renfro under thirty seven and a half 847 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: receiving yards. I do think that Baltimore will play stout defense, 848 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: get them into some third and Renfro, but remember, even 849 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: with Marcus Peters out on the perimeter, they're getting Tavon 850 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Young back. He's really good in the slot. Marlon Humphrey 851 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: can play inside in the slot. So I think you're 852 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: really going against some of the class of the league 853 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: in terms of guys that can cover Renfro, who has 854 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: made you know, some guys look silly in the past. 855 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: But this is a low aid dop player going against 856 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: a tough defense, and he could catch like five ball, 857 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: five six balls and still go over this number. So 858 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: I have his median just under thirty so I would 859 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: bet this down to thirty two and Betty doesn't get 860 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: you know, more than like four receptions for eight yards 861 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: of pop or something like that. So Hunter Renfro under 862 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half for me, and that is 863 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: going to wrap up our prize Pick a week entry. 864 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: So again, Sean going with Tyson Williams the Ravens running 865 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: back over sixty two and a half rushing yards, and 866 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: I am going with Raiders slot receiver Hunter Renfro under 867 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half receiving yards, all right, and 868 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: that is going to wrap it up for our Week 869 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: two waiver episode. You can find Sean on Twitter at 870 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: the Underscore Odds Maker. 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