WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Get Back 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.279 I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:12.760 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Get Back, Get Back, Get 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.480 Back to where You once belonged. Addition, as I visited 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.400 with newcomer Trent Taylor, who is looking to get back 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.279 to the way he performed as a rookie in San 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.560 Francisco before injuries halted his NFL career. And after my 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.880 conversation with Trent, I'll talk to Nick Shook, a writer 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.199 for NFL dot Com, who recently had a very interesting 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.440 story about the most disruptive pass rushers in the NFL 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.840 last year. T J Watt of the Steelers was number one, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.400 Joey Bosa the Chargers was number two, and Bengals newcomer 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.080 Trey Hendrickson was number three. We'll discuss that, plus get 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.559 Nick's thoughts on the Bengals offensive line improvements and the 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.680 likelihood that Joe Burrow will ultimately become one of the 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:00.360 best quarterbacks in the NFL. The Bengals Booth Podcast, entered 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.000 by Bud Light Seltzer, refresh the game and here's a 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.600 quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.160 this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:15.119 by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.440 It's the greatest thing since the Jungle to the Hall Rally. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.759 In about two weeks, Saturday, June nineteenth, hundreds of Bengals 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.080 fans from all over the country are heading to the 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.920 Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton to make the 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.520 case that more Bengals should be enshrined, most notably Ken 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.160 Anderson and Ken Riley. From ten to twelve that morning, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.160 there will be an event at masselin Washington High School, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.240 where Paul Brown's coaching career began, and then from one 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.960 to three, a big rally will take place in a 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.480 party tent on the grounds of the Hall of Fame. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.680 Former Bengals will be involved in person and virtually, and 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.920 the Hall of Fame is planning to have a special 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.520 Cincinnati Bengals exhibit. The hope is that the event will 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.560 influence the nine voters on the Senior Committee, and the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.160 rally is already getting a lot of publicity. But regardless 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.600 of that, it's sure to be a great time for 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.160 everybody that makes the trip. They've even arranged for discounted 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.960 hotel rooms and Hall of Fame tickets. For more information 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.240 and to RSVP for the free events. Look up Bengal 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:26.799 Jims BTR on social media again, that's Bengal Jims BTR 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.600 on Twitter or Facebook. And who day to all the 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.799 Bengals fans who are planning to attend the Jungle to 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.120 the Hall rally. Now let's get to Trent Taylor. When 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.680 the Bengals held the recent rookie minicamp, most of the 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.160 attention went to number one draft pick Jamar Chase, But 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.400 while watching video and looking at photos of number one, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.640 some Bengals fans were surprised and miffed to see another 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:56.160 wide receiver wearing AJ Green's old number eighteen. As it 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.040 turned out, it wasn't a rookie. It was Trent Taylor, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.680 who spent the last four years with the San Francisco 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.200 forty nine ers. The former Louisiana tech star, who led 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.400 the nation in receiving yards as a senior, promptly signed 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.799 with the Bengals after the mini camp and is now 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.280 wearing the number eleven. Taylor is undersized at five eight, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.360 but had an excellent rookie year as a slot receiver 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.800 in San Francisco before encountering back and foot injuries. I 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.280 spoke to the twenty seven year old this week, Prent. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 After four years in San Francisco, where you built some 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.040 great friendships, describe what it's like to start over with 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.880 a new team. It's an exciting time for sure. It's 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.120 you know, kind of you do your four years in 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.400 high school, four years in college, and I did my 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.520 four years in San Francisco, so I just naturally time 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.360 to move on. I guess it just kind of worked 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.160 out like that. But yeah, it's an exciting time, like 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.000 all it always is starting with a new team. Right now, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.720 I'm just getting no all my teammates, meeting everybody and 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.560 all the coaches and everything, and so far, so good. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.040 Everybody seems like cool, good people. So yeah, just still 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.440 getting to know everybody right now. George Kittle posted a 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.320 heartfelt tribute to you on Instagram after you signed with 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.919 the Bengals, saying it's hard to think about not lacing 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.359 up the cleats with you next year. Sounds like the 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.000 two of you built a very strong bond. What did 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:29.640 that message mean? Yeah, so it started. We were training 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:34.400 together before the NFL Combine and all that coming out 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.560 of college. That's where we first met met each other 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:43.040 and out there in Frisco, Texas, we just became great friends. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.400 We would always, like on the weekends, we would go 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.279 to the Dallas Stars hockey games. We would do whatever, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.360 you know, we would hang out. That's when we started 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.159 become great friends. And then we both got drafted to 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.680 the forty nine ers. He was at the early fifth 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.920 round pick and I was, uh the late fifth round pick. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.000 So it was you know, an instant like we face 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.159 behind each other, streaming and yelling and uh so, yeah, 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.880 all of our time in San Francisco together, we were roommates. Um, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.960 and just like continue to grow as great friends together. Um. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.120 You know I was in his wedding, He's gonna be 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.160 in my well. I actually had a COVID wedding this 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.599 past year and he was the the one single guest 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.039 that I had there with me, along with his wife, Claire. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:37.559 UM So yeah, we um definitely created a lifelong friendship together. UM. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.960 So it kind of sucks to be able to tap 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.719 to leave friends like that, but you know, it's it's 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.840 it's part of the game. And you know, we both 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.680 have houses in Nashville now. Um, so we'll always be friends. UM. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.600 Continuing on from this his rise to start them must 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.880 be awesome for you to be that close to him. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.000 Oh yeah, it's it's been amazing to watch that because 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.680 you know, after our rookie year, we both had forty 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.520 three catches. I think, you know, we tied with catches. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.160 So the bet, like I was like, I bet you 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.359 like two hundred bucks. You know, I'll have more catches 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.279 than you this year. And that's like when he actually 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:20.000 broke the tight Ends all time record for receptions or 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:25.000 he broke the yards record, I think, not receptions, but 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.560 that's when he like completely started going off and I 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.840 was like, oh, I kind of regret regret doing that, 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.039 but uh yeah, it's been so much fun watching him 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.880 progress and just become the big superstar that he is 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.040 these days. Did he hold you to the bat? Yeah? 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:46.640 I paid him. Yeah, we're talking to a Trent Taylor. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.600 So you mentioned forty three catches as a rookie. You 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.120 got off to a great start and then the injuries 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.640 kicked in. What have you had to overcome? You know? 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.120 Rookie year went good for me. I had I had 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.200 back surgery going into my second year. So my third 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.839 year training camp, I fractured my foot and I was 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.480 only supposed to miss like one or two games starting 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.560 the season, but then there's an infection in my foot. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.000 So my foot got infected which caused me which they 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.880 only thought it was gonna like take three or four 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.520 more weeks, but it actually ended up being I missed 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.160 the whole season because the infection in my foot, it 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.880 was like really hard for them to get it out, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.880 so a bunch of surgeries happened for them to make 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.840 that happen. So I literally like the whole season I 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.080 was just sitting on the couch with my foot, you know, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.400 trying to get it back healthy, getting the infection out 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.960 of it. And that's when we went to the Super Bowl. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.880 So it was a super tough year for me just 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.080 to have to sit back and watch my guys go 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.840 to the Super Bowl without me. When it was like 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.000 something that was out of my control, which is like 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.360 an infection in my foot, you know, it'd be different, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.400 it feels, because like I injured myself playing football. But 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.480 just the fact that it was like a doctor kind 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.280 of messed up my foot a little bit, and that's 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.480 the reason that it held me out. That one stung 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.960 a little bit. So just some unfortunate events for me 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.760 like that in San Francisco. So it was kind of 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.880 a tough ride. So I'm ready for a fresh start 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:28.040 here in Cincinnati. That foot injury sounds like really scary stuff. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.120 I think anybody that followed Alex Smith's leg injury knows 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.400 how serious an infection can be after surgery. Were you 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:40.240 in danger of losing the foot or anything dire like that. No, 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.160 it was nothing crazy like that. But it was just 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.599 like they would think that the infection was going to 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.040 be clear, So then we waited a couple of weeks 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.360 and then they go back and look at it again 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.640 and it's like, oh wow, it's still in the bone. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.840 So we had to like explore a bunch of different methods. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.880 I had. I had a pickline in my arm um 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:09.440 injecting myself with um antibiotics for six weeks. I think, wow. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.560 Um so that yeah, that was just a miserable time 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.600 dealing with that. But um yeah, nothing like what Alex 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.040 Smith was dealing with out That's that's just a whole 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.640 other level. We're talking to Trent Taylor. So you signed 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.760 with the Bengals after getting a tryout at the rookie Minicamp. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.319 A few weeks ago, and it was interesting because there 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.880 were twenty two players there and you were the only 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.760 one with real NFL experience. Did it feel a little 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.400 bit strange and did the rookies know that you were 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.760 an accomplished NFL vet? Uh? Yeah, it definitely felt weird, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.960 Like you can kind of tell, just like talking to 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.880 guys and working out with guys, um, guys who you know, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.640 know how the league works, and guys who are completely 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.240 new to it. Um. But I don't think I don't 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.760 think anybody really knew that I was a veteran um 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.720 because like towards the end, when we were catching punts, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.520 it got brought up somehow and everybody was like, oh, dang, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.960 like you you used to be with the forty nine ers. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.319 Oh yeah, yeah, I've done this before, man. But uh 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.040 but yeah, it was It was definitely a different time 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.040 for me. You know, something I've never experienced, having to, 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.000 you know, travel around and like try out for a 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.120 team like that. Um. But I'm glad we made it 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.199 work here in Cincinnati. Now, did they have you go 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.679 through that tryout more or less just to see if 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.360 you were healthy because obviously, you know, you can put 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.839 on the tape and see what you've accomplished in the NFL. Yeah, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.000 I think, I mean, yeah, it was normal. Um I'm 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.079 glad that I got to do it, you know with 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.280 the rookies, because usually, like a workout, you kind of 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.440 go and you're out there by yourself just running routes 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.240 while while they watch you, and it's just you know, 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.800 it's a lot more fun whenever you're running routes with 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.040 other guys and you have actual quarterbacks throwing to you. Um, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.200 so yeah, I was I was able to join in 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:02.920 with the rookies and do it that way. It's just 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.520 it's a lot easier now. The other thing that caused 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.440 a bit of a stir was the fact that you 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.920 were wearing AJ Green's number eighteen. You switched to number 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.000 eleven after signing with the Bengals. But were you amused 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.720 or annoyed by the outrage that people seem to have. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.920 Oh yeah, it was pretty funny, honestly, Like I never 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.240 even thought about it. I just you know, once it 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.880 was over, I guess they like closted pictures of me 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.160 wearing eighteen at the rookie mini camp, and um, I 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.880 just opened up my Twitter and there's like all these 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.120 people who are so angry with me for some reason. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.560 I'm just like so confused. But I mean aj Greens, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.120 I mean, he's the man. He's he's a complete baller. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.720 So you know, I understand where they're coming from. That's 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.120 that's how fans are. It is what it is. But um, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.240 I definitely knew not to keep number eighteen on my chest. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.720 I knew that for sure. Well, eleven looked good, it practiced. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.440 Last last week, we're talking to Tred Taylor. The Bengals 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.360 lost Alex Ericson in free agency, and he's had the 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.840 role the last few years of being kind of a 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.600 backup slot receiver to Tyler Boyd and then obviously the 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.680 primary punt returner. And you have performed those roles in 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.600 the past for San Francisco. Do you see this as 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.480 kind of a natural replacement for the job he had. Uh? Yeah, 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.000 I feel like that that could easily become my role. Um. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.040 I think I proved myself as a prim returner, a 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.920 guy who can get the job done in this league, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.240 so um, I mean I obviously got to go prove 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.720 it every day, but um yeah, I feel like that 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.800 could be a good role for me and obviously TV 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.440 Tyler Boyd is a I mean, he's a great athlete 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:56.760 and a baller obviously in that position. So uh yeah, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.720 we'll see what happens with that. But um, the offense 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.280 here is a lot is a lot better for me, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.760 you know, for a guy like me, Because in San Francisco, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.960 we had Kyli Huschek at tied end, which would take 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.280 our at fullback, which would take a lot of time 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.240 from that third receiver spot, which Jews. He's like obviously 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.240 a baller at fullback and can do a lot of 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.679 things for your offense. But we don't have a fullback 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.960 here at Cincinnati, which is good for that third receiver. Um, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.319 you know, a lot more opportunities for guys like me 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.120 to come into the game and make play. Yeah, no question, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.400 more three receiver sets than any other team in the 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.320 NFL over the last couple of years. What stood out 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.079 to you, Yeah, what stood out to you about the 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.559 wide receiver group in the first few days of OTAs. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.679 My parents asked me about it and I told him, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.000 I said, we might have the best receiver group in 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.960 the NFL. I believe if if obviously you know, Jamar 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.680 Chase can come in and be a baller like he 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.800 did all throughout his college years, which I believe definitely will. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.760 Um we're looking at like a pretty lethal groove at receiver. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.000 So I'm just I'm excited to be a part of 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.760 it and to get this offense role. Does the possibility 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.720 of playing with Joe Burrow excite you? Yeah? Obviously, you 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.520 know you you watched him his rookie year, and uh, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.200 he obviously has what it takes to be a baller 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.800 in this league for a long time. You know, He's 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.320 got the right mentality. And yeah, so I'm excited to 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.120 work with a guy like that. And uh, you know, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.560 just the fire that he brings to the game is 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.520 something that isn't normal as a quarterback, I don't think. Um. So, yeah, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.080 it's gonna be fun playing with him for sure. In December, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.960 the Bengals host your former team. Have you given any 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.360 thought to what it'll be like to line up against 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.360 the forty nine ers. Yeah, I'm I'm really excited about 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.760 that one. I've already joked with you know, the strength 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.120 staff over there and some of the coaches. I say, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.080 if I scored, So I'm I'm throwing the ball at 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.880 you on the sideline. I mean, yeah, I'll definitely you know, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.200 have a nice little chip on my shoulder for that one. Um, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.480 hopefully I ball out and get to shove it in 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.640 their face. But I mean, it's all love at the 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.280 end of the at the end of the day, I 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.040 respect all those guys over there, Um, Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.240 the whole, um, the whole coaches that they're all great 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.200 people and I definitely appreciate everything they did for me 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.480 and my time there. So it's all love at the 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.560 end of the day. All right, last thing for Trent Taylor. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.760 I was glancing at your bio and you were a 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.400 great all around athlete in high school. That's not all 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.800 that unusual for an NFL football player. But in your case, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.520 did you really take up tennis as a high school 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.920 senior and make it to the state double final? Yes, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.760 that that is true. Um, yeah, we so, me and 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.680 my quarterback, and you know, we were both just natural 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.200 athletes ourselves. Dakota Duran is his name, but uh, you know, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.400 we always played tennis for fun. We're like, dude, senior year, like, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.400 let's just join the team. It will be a blast. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.960 And so we were doubles partners together, and we made 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.960 it all the way to the to the state championship match. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.240 You know, we we beat everyone throughout the state tournament, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.520 made it to the finals, and got beat um in 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.880 the championship game, which I think we I think the 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.160 whole tennis community like hated us so much. You were known, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.080 we were known as like the two football guys because 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.720 you know, we just went to the state championship in 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:43.120 football that year, and so everyone knew us pretty well. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.720 And so yeah, we were known as like the football guys. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.520 That's why everyone knew us as at the state tennis tournament, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.680 and uh, you know, we kind of had we had 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.440 a little edge about us. You know, we would talk trash, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.640 you know, poor kids and tennis. You know, they probably 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.960 haven't seen much of that, but we got We talked 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.399 trash to a lot of them, and I think we 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.840 got in most people's heads. I think that's why we 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.000 won most of the games, honestly, which it was probably 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.239 like not nice at all, but you know that's how 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.199 we were. We were just out there having fun with 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.520 it and yeah, and made it all the way to 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.320 stay So I mean, I enjoyed the hell out of 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.480 Little Still's a good time. The football guys crashed the party. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:31.800 Is there is there footage of that on YouTube or 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.679 somewhere where people can see it. I don't know, honestly, 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.800 I don't think so. I don't think there's anything online 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.479 of that. I might I might need to find some 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.919 videos and post them for you all. That would be 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.840 very entertaining. Hey, Trent, this was great. This was great. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.520 I really appreciate your time. Welcome to Cincinnati and we 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.280 look forward to watching you play. All right, Yeah, thanks 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.400 for having me. I'm looking forward to it. The Bengals 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.840 Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.680 and refreshing with a hint of fruit labor. Last week, 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.520 there was a story on nfl dot com about the 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.800 top ten pass rushing disruptors in the NFL last year. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.000 That stat combines hurries, pressures, and sacks to determine who 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.240 is most effective at rushing the quarterback. Former Bengal Karl 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.520 Lawson was number seven on the list. The free agent 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.040 that the Bengals signed to replace him, Trey Hendrickson, checked 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.840 in at number three. I spoke to the author of 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.360 the article, Nick Shook, about that and much more. Nick 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.960 I reached out after reading your recent story on NFL 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.320 dot com about the top ten disruptors of twenty twenty. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.439 In New Bengal, Trey Hendrickson checked in at number three, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.360 ahead of Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald, among others. I 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.400 know you are not saying that he's better than those 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.000 two guys, but explain the stat and what it says 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:55.320 about the Bengals acquisition of Trey Hendrickson. Well, I know you, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.800 I know that you know that I'm not saying he's better, 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.160 but I would like to inform all Twitter that because 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.880 they think otherwise when they just see your ranking next 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.600 of these games. Um, well, the thing with with Trey 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.960 Andrickson that that put him so high on this list 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.239 was the fact that you know he got home And 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.080 when I say that, I mean, you know, on his 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.359 pass rushes he was getting to the quarterback and bringing 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.160 him down. He wasn't just getting close and maybe pressuring 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.040 him or causing a hurry or anything like that. He 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.080 was finishing the job. I mean, he was nearer at 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.880 or in the league lead for sacks for the majority 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.640 of the season, and he had the highest sack rate 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.240 of any player on this list of any player in 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.440 the history of Next Gen's dabs dates back to twenty 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.919 sixteen at over four percent, is the only guy to 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.800 ever break four percent. So, you know, I think that 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.280 you're getting a guy who ideally replaces somebody who lost. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.479 Also on this listen, Carl Lawson ended up in seventh, 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.119 but you hope that it's not a flash in the 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.400 pan thing. He you know, he came from college with 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.800 the reputation for getting after the quarterback, and it's almost 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.920 like he just happened to finally blossom in the final 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.280 year of his deal and you know, at the perfect time. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.479 But again, he was playing offs to Tamra Jordan's So 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.879 it does make you wonder, you know, was he benefiting 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.639 from that or not. We'll find out, I think in 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.800 Cincinnati this year. But he's I mean, he's a big 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.359 get for the Bengals, no doubt. We are talking to 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.800 Nick Shook from NFL dot Com. Let's talk about the 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.800 Bengals pass rush in general, because it was pretty anemic 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.920 last year. Last in the NFL in sacks twenty ninth 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.320 and pass rush win raid. According to ESPN, they signed 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.920 Trey they signed Larry Ogan job, They've got DJ Reader 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.560 coming back from injury. They drafted four defensive lineman, including 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.680 Joseph Osai in the third round. What do you think 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.400 of the group and the likelihood that the Bengals pass 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.880 rush will be much improved? Um, you know, I think 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.040 even having guys healthy would help you a lot. I think, 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:49.960 you know, Geno Atkins and what was going on with 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.680 him in the last couple of years didn't really help 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.080 him either. So I'm a big fan of Larry Ogan 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.879 joby uh from his time with the Browns. I got 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.000 to know him fairly well when I worked for the team, 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.320 and you know, I love approach. He's a very hard worker. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.359 He's an under the radar guy who you know, he 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.280 makes some plays here and there that might catch somebody's 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.720 attention and then maybe to set the expectation a little 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:12.879 too high and then they get disappointed. But that's not 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.120 the type of players he's not. He's not your warrant 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.360 sap interior rusher. He's just gonna break through and set 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.240 the quarterback. But what he's gonna do is cause problems. 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.840 He's rarely gonna get pushed back. He's gonna jam up 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.040 the middle. Despite not being three hundred and thirty pounds 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.360 or whatever. So he's gonna be effective in there, and 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.040 I think he works really well in tandem. I think 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.359 hed Reader's gonna help out with that, uh, you know, 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.640 provided that he can come back healthy after missing Lois 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.440 of last year. And you know, Hendrickson we already talked 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.679 about um and I like Joseph Asaia I do. I 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.920 thought that he got drafted later than I expected raw 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.320 in the fact that he was an inside linebacker at 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.439 Texas before making a position change and clearly becoming you know, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.080 the edge that he was supposed to be. You know, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:50.560 he's a little stiff in the hips, he doesn't quite 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.640 have that natural bend yet. But I think it's great 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.760 value for the Bengals, and if they give him a 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.320 long road, he could become a very productive player. He's 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.479 also not somebody that you're gonna have to immediately rely on. 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.679 So overall, what I learned from that drafted from this 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.560 offseason with the Bengals, at least in the defensive side 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.240