WEBVTT - Fried Egg Stories: Bobby Clampett and His Golfing Machine 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome back to season two of Frida Egg Stories. This 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.200 episode on Bobby Klampett and the Golfing Machine is brought 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.360 to you by Precision Pro Golf Rangefinders. So today's story 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.840 is about the quest to get better and more precise 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.960 on the golf course, and that's actually Precision Pros area 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:20.759 of expertise. Their rangefinders provide accurate distances that golfers can trust. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.120 Frida Egg listeners will receive an extra twenty dollars off 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.680 any Precision Pro rangefinder by going to precisionprogolf dot com 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.960 and using the coupon code Friday Egg twenty. That's Friday 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.199 Egg two to oh. Swing with confidence, hit more greens 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.080 with Precision Pro Golf. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.400 The Fried Egg requires a different technique. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.200 If you need to do is actually square the face 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.159 so it'll dig down underneath that bad lie and propel 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:50.560 that ball right out onto the green. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:52.040 Here's the thing. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.639 Playing out of a buried lion of bunker is completely 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.120 different than playing out of a nice and clean line 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.280 a greenside bunker. You need to be a risk on 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.480 any show, weather it's sitting cleanly or at a Friday EG. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.960 Well, we've all played the dreaded Friday. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.399 Not to be beard though, it's actually a pretty easy 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:10.039 shot to hit. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:16.080 All right. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.760 Hello, how's it going, George? 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.080 Hey, you can hear me and see me. That's a plus. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.600 That's George Pepper. He used to edit Golf magazine and 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.279 in July nineteen eighty two he was at Royal Troon 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.399 in Scotland for the Open Championship. It's a long time 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.760 ago now, but one particular memory has stuck with him. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.960 He was in the clubhouse, like the main room. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.080 I think they probably called it the smoking lounge in 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.120 those days. It was a big picture window that looked 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.040 out onto that eighteenth hole, looked right through the green 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.440 all the way down the fairway. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.720 George was in that room looking out that window on 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.080 Friday afternoon when the leader of the Open was finishing 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.200 his second round and he hit. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.840 A good drive and I think he had some sort 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.080 of short iron into the green. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:58.480 And it was pretty. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.120 Weird because you stand in that smoking lounge look out 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.160 through the windows and you see the golfer one hundred 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.560 and fifty yards down the way, and you see him 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.320 hit the ball, and then it disappears it's up there 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.679 because the ceiling of the room. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.320 Blocks your ear, so you have no idea. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.239 You saw it get launched, and I will never forget 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.960 it just appeared out of the ceiling, so to speak. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.079 Plump right down on the green, I think fairly close 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:28.440 to the hole, dow and the place went nuts well. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.560 And it was pretty clear to everyone at that point 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.720 that Bobby Clampett was going to win the nineteen eighty 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:41.800 two Open Championship. Clampet was twenty two years old, a 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.440 Californian with a carefree attitude and a head of blonde curls. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.840 Media loved him, and one aspect of the intrigue around 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.800 him was how he talked about the golf swing. He 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.320 used this very scientific language and kept referring to a 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.040 book called The Golfing Machine, which was written by an 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.440 engineer from Seattle named Homer Kelly. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.360 We were very much aware of Holmer Kelly and the 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.680 Golfing Machine. I still remember sort of a small, trim 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:12.280 sized book, yellow cover and all of these geometric lines 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.160 on it, and trying to read it unsuccessfully like everybody else. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.560 And at the eighty two Open, Bobby Clampett's play was 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.760 forcing even the skeptics to take the Golfing Machine seriously. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.360 He shot sixty seven sixty six in his first two rounds. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:27.520 I was just on. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.160 Every part of my game was on. It was pretty 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.400 remarkable two days where just everything. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:35.760 Was going right. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.800 That night he slept on a five shot lead. Bobby 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.640 Klampett had been one of the finest junior in college 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.920 golfers since Jack Nicholas, but an open victory would have 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.760 been a moment of validation not just of the player himself, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.600 but also of the science he endorsed. Clampett was truly 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.840 a product of the golfing machine, so whether he wanted 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.640 to or not, he had become the first important test 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:07.960 case for whether it all worked. I'm Garrett Morrison, and 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:14.680 this is Frida egg Stories today, the story of Homer, Kelly, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.680 Bobby Clampett and the science that they believed would solve 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:36.880 the mysteries of golf. So fifty years ago. It took 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.480 a certain kind of person to get into the golfing machine, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.239 and Bobby Clampett just happened to be that kind of person. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.400 From the beginning. He was fascinated, specifically by the act 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.960 of hitting the ball. The first time he saw golf 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.040 being played, Bobby was six and he was walking around 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.800 the Olympic Club in San Francisco with his mom and stepdad. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.880 And then I saw I can still vividly remember it, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.480 I'm pretty sure was the second hole, and I saw 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.760 this man hitting what would have been his second shot, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:10.360 most likely into that part four, and I remember watching. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.200 The ball and following it up into the big trees, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.360 and then it came up and landed on the green, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.080 and I just thought, that is the coolest thing ever, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.440 hitting a little white ball. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.240 It just captured me. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.960 It wasn't long after that we moved to Monterey and 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.880 my first experience. I kept bugging my mom, I want 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.440 to learn to play golf, and she was like, yeah, yeah, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.160 one more thing, and I said, no, I really want 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.320 to learn to play golf. Yeah, you said that about 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.880 tennis and football and baseball and basketball and blah blah blah. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.800 Skiing, I said, no, I really want to learn to 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:51.320 play golf. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.560 What do you think it is about golf that appealed 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.760 to you so much. You mentioned that you played a 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.560 number of different sports, but golf obviously took on the 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.279 status of a near obsession pretty quickly with you at 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.599 a young age, very quickly. So what was it about it. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.600 I had had some frustrating moments playing team sports, and 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.280 I can remember times, you know, the kids wouldn't let 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.760 me play quarterback because the bullying that goes on in 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.240 the playground, And I knew I could throw harder, better, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.800 faster than any of them could, and golf allowed me 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.480 that access to be away from that. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.680 So I knew very little about the sport right. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.680 In fact, I knew nothing about the sport when I 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.480 first got into it. So I can remember I loved 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.680 riding my bike, and I remember riding to the Thunderbird 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:50.560 bookstore there at Mid Valley Carmel and engaging the salesperson 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.800 there on the discussion of I want to learn to 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.640 play golf, and what books do you have in the 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.680 store to recommend to me? And so I came across 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.360 this book the lady suggested how to Play Golf by 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.719 Sam Snead, and it was almost all pictures. So I 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.719 went on this little individual pursuit of trying to mimic 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.600 Sam Snead's golf swing through these pictures. And I would 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.320 try to stand like Sam Snead, and I'd grip it 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.840 like Sam Snead, and I'd try to make a backswing 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.760 like Sam Snead, and that was always at the forefront 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.600 of my mind, trying to mimic good swings. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.720 When Bobby was about ten, his mother finally gave way. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.520 She let him start taking lessons at the local club 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.840 in Carmel Valley, California, with a pro named Lee Martin. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.360 Three years later, Lee left and a new pro arrived, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.720 a pro who would match Bobby's enthusiasm for mastering all 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.239 the details of the golf swing. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:52.880 In comes Ben Doyle as the new golf instructor, and 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.640 I remember in our first meeting, he says, well, let 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.720 me take a picture of your swing. And he had 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.640 a polaroid graftcheck camera when it was old cameras with 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.000 the eight frames, you know, in sequence, and he started 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.200 taking some pictures of my swing. And then we started 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.640 talking about and he said, you know, I were you, 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.840 I'd try to do this. And you know, you ever 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.880 heard a club ed lag and you ever heard about 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.000 the golfing Machine? And well, almost immediately he sold me 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.760 a copy of the Golfing Machine and he had me 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.720 read one l the machine concept right off the bat, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.080 and he would use little blurbs, favorite blurbs out of 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.960 the golfing machine, amplify lag and drag, deliver it down 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.120 a straight line delivery path, use a ferrol barrel power 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.400 cumulator assembly. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.640 I mean it was. The golfing machine was to Ben 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.000 what the Bible is to a Christian preacher. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.959 So to understand what the golfing machine is and why 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.240 it inspired such devotion from Ben Doyle and eventually from 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.480 Bobby Clampett, we have to backtrack a little and tell 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.000 the story of Homer Kelly. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.360 My name is Scott Gummer, and I am the author 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.600 of the book Homer Kelly's Golfing Machine, The Curious Quest 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:04.680 that Solved Golf. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.960 Let me phrase the question this way. If Homer Kelly's 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.840 life were a movie, where would that movie start? 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.520 I'd probably start on the first day he played golf. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.520 It was nineteen thirty nine. He scored one hundred and 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.160 sixteen and he didn't have much fun, so he quit playing, 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:28.600 didn't play again for six months, and then some one 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.400 asked him to go back out, and he went out 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.960 and he shot seventy seven, which he could not understand. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.960 What happened that I was able to? What did I 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:40.560 do differently? 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.840 And he was just a very inquisitive guy by nature, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.400 and thus began his quest to figure out golf. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.880 Okay, well, Garrett, I am Joe Daniels. I am the 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.840 owner of the Golfing Machine copyright, which I purchased from 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.720 Missus Kelly back in two thousand and two. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.400 When I asked Joe Daniels to give me an idea 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.000 of what Homer Kelly was like, he tells me two stories. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.240 The first is about how Homer installed a basement in 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.280 the house where he and his wife lived in Seattle. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.360 He didn't hire somebody to do it. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.840 He dug it out himself, and in order to support it. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.680 What he did was Interstate five was being built through 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:39.240 downtown Seattle, and so they probably had to knock down 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.800 quite a few buildings. And all those buildings were made 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.080 of bricks. So he went down, put a bunch of 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.160 bricks in the back of his car, drove them home, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.600 took him out, went back, got some more, and those 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:55.240 bricks are what he used to support his house when 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.440 he dug out the basement. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.920 The second story is about how Homer learned to play piano. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.920 Not surprisingly, he taught himself. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.000 But it was all built upon the scales. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.160 So he didn't really play songs. He was all about 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.480 the scales and. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.200 So very mechanical. Right, it has to be like this. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:23.599 So he definitely was a character that relied on his intellect, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.880 and his intellect always kind of moved to if you 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.280 wield golfing machine words, the geometry and physics of things. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.320 And so when he set out to learn everything about 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.000 the golf swing, he did so in a very Homer 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.640 kellyish way. His first step was to visit some teaching 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.280 pros in the Seattle area and ask if they could 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.839 explain why he shot one sixteen in his first round 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.560 and seventy seven in his next one. In other words, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.600 if they could explain one of the central mysteries of golf, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.120 why good players are sometimes bad and bad players are 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.000 sometimes good. Whatever the prose told him, Homer didn't buy it. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:04.000 I think golf instruction then was very much like golf 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:08.959 instruction is now. That a lot of people talk about 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.000 the feel of golf, their field golfer, and that was 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.240 not what Homer. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.360 That didn't compute in his scientific mind. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.480 So Homer just figured gotta do it myself. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.200 I just think the word quest is really appropriate. He 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.400 just really felt like the other people that. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.479 Were teaching the games. The pros, the swing. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:37.920 Doctors and things like that didn't lack desire or sincerity. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.440 What Homer said is they lacked information. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.640 And one of the things that he said was all 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.680 we need is a little definitive information. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.400 I think that's what drove him. It just took a 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:49.360 really long time. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.680 Homer started gathering his information in the early forties, and 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.840 he self published the first edition of his book, The 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:09.160 Golfing Machine in nineteen sixty nine. Its subtitle was Geometric Golf, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.040 The Computer Age Approach, the Golfing Perfection. If you were 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.600 to summarize the contents of the Golfing Machine, I mean, essentially, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.120 what that book contends and what it contains, what would 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:23.920 you say, Actually. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.719 I find that to be a pretty easy question, and 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.120 the answer is there is no one way. Unlike Jack Nicholas, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.320 whose book is called Golf My Way, Homer's book should 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.200 be called Golf Your Way. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.480 Basically, the book breaks down the golf swing into a 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.400 bunch of different components and variations, and it says, here, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.080 choose some of these pieces, assemble your own golfing machine 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.160 and make sure it sends the ball where you wanted 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:49.480 to go. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:54.680 If you're able to stand behind the golf ball, and 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.280 he makes a statement, visualize what you want the golf 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.679 ball to do, and then his words are set up 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.560 the machine that creates that ball flight, then you can 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.480 do it. And I think sometimes the golfing machine scares 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.559 people because it has choices. It doesn't say you have 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.240 to do this, only says you have to have a 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.440 flat left wrist, club head lag clubheadlag pressure point, actually 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.680 have a straight plane link three things. It shouldn't be 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:27.480 so hard, should it. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:35.200 What can be hard is actually reading the book. Could 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.960 you introduce yourself by name and what your relationship. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.840 Is to me, I'm Michelle Morrison and I am your wife. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:49.880 I would like you to read starting here four D 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.680 zero release motions. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:53.800 This term refers to. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:59.720 The release of accumulators number two and number three, so 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:00.960 is not a pattern. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.480 Homer's writing style was pretty I mean is it is 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.760 effectively a textbook. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.880 The Golfing Machine book is written just like a text book. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.040 I don't I don't even know that he had an editor, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.600 I mean, except maybe his wife. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.600 You have to commit to reading the. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:22.800 Golf Uncocking four by dash three. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.080 And roll for. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.960 What are what are your reactions? 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:27.840 To what you just read. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.240 It's like a space manual. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:37.200 I don't know, and yet working through it, I found 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.320 it to be really satisfying. It's it's a little bit, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.320 I mean, it's a little bit, I guess in a 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.760 weird way, like once you learn to conjugate verbs in 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.920 a different language, then it kind of just puts you 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.400 to a place where things start making sense. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.800 And so when someone says, you know, why did mister 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.080 Kelly write it this way? I say to myself, well, 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.360 I don't think there's a different way he could. It's 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:06.040 how he thinks. And you either can glean from that 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.080 or you cannot. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.200 But beneath Homer Kelly's dense technical pros and beneath his 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.680 findings about the geometry and physics of the golf swing, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:19.960 there's a kind of philosophical conviction. And that's this golf 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.120 is not an art. It's not a grand mystery. There's 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.000 no spiritual component. There is just the machine, the golf swing. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.120 You build it and it either works or it doesn't. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.800 And if you shoot one sixteen one day and seventy 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.720 seven the next, you won't find the reason and feel 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.640 or character or the so called mental game. You'll find 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.920 it in science. That's what Homer Kelly believed, and the 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:51.880 question was whether the golf world would believe him. Season 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.080 two of Friday Stories is made possible by Precision Pro Golf. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.120 Can you imagine if Homer Kelly and Bobby Clampett had 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.800 had access to a Precision Pro range from in nineteen 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.760 seventy three, it would have loved it. 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I believe, how would you 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.639 characterize the initial public reception of this text, Well, there. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.119 Wasn't to me. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.960 Well, The Golfing Machine when it was published, Homer self 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.440 published it, and he had a handful. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.760 Of books made, and you know, he. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.359 Tried to get people to have a look, have a listen. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.919 Homer even held a ten week class for local teaching pros. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.239 But let's face it, the professionals at the time that 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.960 came to that class where all guys who basically would say, well, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.080 you got to learn how it feels, you got to 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.800 go out there and hit a bazillion balls, and this 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:33.800 is what you've got to do. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.000 So by the end of the class, most of the 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.920 students were gone. Turns out, it wasn't easy for Homer 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.840 Kelly to convince people that golf was a science and 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:43.119 that science could solve golf. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.120 It's just very thick in terms of trying to process 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:52.560 that information. And so really, as the visionary, what Homer 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:58.520 needed was someone who could teach it. He needed a disciple, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.440 as it were, to take the message out. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.720 And he found that with a local pro named Ben Doyle. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.200 Ben was the head golf professional at Broadmoor in Seattle, 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.359 And if you've never been to Broadmore, it's a little strange. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:20.119 So the entrance took the Broadboard Golf Club is on 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.159 a road that dead ends at basically a park. So 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.560 the public can go all the way to this park, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.920 just can't go and past the gates, right, So mister 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.719 Kelly would sit in the parking lot and watch Ben teach, 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.359 and so from there, when mister Kelly finally got the 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.520 book published and brought it to Ben, you know, they 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.679 spent six hours talking and mister Kelly explained how he 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.160 traced the golf swing through all of these things. And 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.720 you know, Ben being able to ask almost any question 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.960 he wanted was probably the icing on the cake there. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.359 And we're not having this conversation if Homer doesn't connected Ben. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.760 I mean, that's just you know, Homer would have had 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:04.720 a booked like a lot. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:09.040 Of people that self publish their books and that never 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:14.480 just quite get elevated. Homer needed Ben to take the 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.080 message to the masses. But to get to the next level, 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.600 they needed someone who could actually execute. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.240 It and could do it. And you know that was 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:25.000 Bobby Klantman. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:33.600 Well. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.480 Ben was a very unique individual. First of all, he 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:42.520 had a very unique way of delivering information. It was 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.840 more about sharing with you the principle and then letting 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.879 you discover it for yourself. We hit it off right away, 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:55.520 and he saw me as a very inquisitive little kid 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.040 that really wanted to learn. And he saw that I 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:03.080 was coming out there every single day. It didn't matter rain, shine, snow, 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.879 after school. I was there seven days a week working 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:07.560 on my game. 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.640 It's worth noting that Bobby was dealing with some tough 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.000 things at this time. He was living with his mother 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.479 and stepfather, and his biological father, Robert Clampett, had been 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.880 part of his life, but Robert was an older man 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.080 sixty six when Bobby was born, and in nineteen seventy 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.960 two he died. Bobby was just twelve years old. It 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.479 was about a year later that Bobby met Ben and 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.520 they went into overdrive. On Bobby's golf. 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.960 Swing, I'll never forget he wanted to teach me the 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.159 principle of club ed lag, which is one of the 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.760 real foremost principles in the golfing machine. They were building 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.240 houses along the driving range at that time. This has 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.440 been nineteen seventy three, but the lot next to where 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.760 Ben was teaching was vacant and there was some very 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.800 tall grass, probably foot to two feet tall grass. And 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:56.919 he said to me, he says, I got a homework 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:57.720 assignment for you. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:58.560 And what's that? 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.040 He says, I want you to take your iron and 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.919 I want you to go into that lot and I 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.480 want you to swing in that lot and apply what 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.480 I've just taught you about club ed light. I want 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.959 you to swing in the long grass until all the 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:14.080 grass is gone. And it's a a half acre lot, 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.000 so plenty of grass out there. And it took me 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.719 about two weeks of swinging and I got through all 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.359 the grass and then he said, now I'm going to 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.600 take your picture of your swing on the graph check camera. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.680 And it was quite a transformation where all of a 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.760 sudden I had learned club ed leg and my handicap 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.159 almost immediately went to like four, and then by the 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.360 time I was fifteen, it was scratch and I won 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.080 my first national junior tournament. 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.560 Bobby was always going to be a tour player, no 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:52.080 two ways about it. He is a talented golfer. What 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:56.479 the golfing machine was able to do for him was 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.200 what do they say, separate the wheat from the chaff 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.000 or whatever it is that they say, right, And so 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:06.960 he got the meat of the subject and just left 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.760 all the other stuff that was irrelevant behind. 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.800 Well, there were a lot of principles in there. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.040 I'm just thinking, you know, Law's cause there are no 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.960 enigmas or mysteries to the game anymore. The ball goes 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.440 exactly where you hit it every time. So in the game, 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.320 if you ever hit an errant shot or a shot 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.080 that didn't go where you wanted it to, you should 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.000 never have to say, well, why did it go over there? 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.160 If you ever say why did it go over there, 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:38.560 you just don't understand Law's cause, and Ben was of 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.840 the mindset that there's no mystery here, and he would 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:47.320 constantly be reinforcing that in his teaching with me. Those 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.720 were some of the principal moments of working with Ben 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.119 and making some radically big changes in my swing. That 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.240 took a while for them to solidify, but once they 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.000 started to kick in and it's started to become more 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.720 a part of me, my game started to hit into 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.480 some pretty cool strides. 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.280 Bobby Klampitt was one of the greatest amateur golfers ever. 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.359 He was jet He was just really, really good. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:17.879 I think I knew my swing very well, and I 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:22.160 knew that if I hit a poor shot, I could 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:26.119 immediately diagnose why and fix it right on the spot. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:27.600 You know. 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.120 I think back to nineteen seventy eight in the Western Amateur, 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.520 and I'd already won the cal State am and I'd 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:34.879 already won numerous other. 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.639 Amateur tournaments that summer, and I'm in. 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:41.240 The finals of the Western am I'd missed already four 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.760 fairways or five fairways, four fairways in a row. I 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.159 was two down after six holes and just won the 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.560 hard seventh hole with a par to pull one down, 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.639 and I had the honor on the eight call, and 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.600 they surprised. I was playing Mark Weeby from San Jose, 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.000 and they surprised both of us. Moved the tee way 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.800 forward on this short eighth hold where it was drivable. 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.840 But it was a tight fairway maybe ten yard opening, 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.679 and a river to the right and big trees and 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.719 just terrible stuff to the left. And I hadn't hit 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:20.119 a fairway yet, but I remember thinking about I kind 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.840 of tuned into something that reminded me of why I 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:27.720 was hitting the ball to the right, and so I 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.159 made that tiny little adjustment, and I remember I hit 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.359 this absolute perfect drive ten feet from the hole and 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.879 ended up having Mark gave it to me for an 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:41.000 eagle as he had already made par, and it tied 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:42.679 the match and it went on to win. That was 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.920 a real pivotal situation. But what enabled me to have 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.840 the confidence after missing so many shots already? That was 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.639 the thing that I think was the separator from me 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.560 and the others playing amateur golf in college golf in 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.400 those days, that I could do that get me so consistent. 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:10.160 He was able to amass the information, filter it down 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.160 into his procedure as we would call it, and make 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.640 it work on the golf course in front of everyone. 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.560 And there's the proof of the pudding right there. And 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.879 so now all of a sudden, you can learn golf 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:25.680 from a book. 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.679 It was in the summer of nineteen seventy eight that 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.520 Bobby clamp It became famous, and so did to a 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:42.280 lesser extent, Ben Doyle, Homer Kelly and their system. That August, 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.359 Golf World magazine ran a cover story called Bobby Clampett 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.959 and the golfing Machine. Bobby told the reporter, I wouldn't 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.920 be winning these tournaments if it weren't for that book. Someday, 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.200 that book is going to change all the theories of swings. 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.560 It's inevitable. He went on to say, it's the bible 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.639 of golf. It's nothing to be laughed at. And the 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.720 article concluded, don't worry about that, Bob, nobody's laughing now. 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.000 That brings us to the eighty two Open Championship, when 0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.000 Bobby Clampett, the face of the golfing Machine, sticks his 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.720 approach on the eighteenth hole at Royal Troon. He takes 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.439 a five shot lead into the third round and seems 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.560 like he's about to prove everything that he and Homer 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.960 Kelly have been saying about the science of golf. That night, 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.600 he calls Ben Doyle and tells him I might walk 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.760 away with this tournament. I've done it before Saturday afternoon, 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.679 the wins at Royal Troon have shifted so off the 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.720 first tee, Bobby decides to go with less than driver. 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:39.800 And I hit a perfect three. 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.320 Arnd is laying up up the first heat down wind 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.720 and hit in the middle of the fairway and it. 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.679 Kicked forty yards left into the lip of a pop bunker. 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.400 It's like, what's that all about? That is so weird. 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:53.600 It doesn't happen. 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.280 But he's able to refocus and on the fifth hole 0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.639 has a forty footer for birdie. The crowd roars, He 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.040 pumps his fist. Bobby Clampitt has a seven shot lead 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.280 at the Open and his golfing machine is in full 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.000 flight on the international stage. 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.560 Yeah, and that was kind of fun. 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:15.800 But then it was the very next hole that I 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.440 got stuck in the pop bunker and couldn't get out. 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:20.760 Fist pump was a little early. 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.080 Yeah, okay, well, I mean getting to the sixth hole, right, 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.720 that was that was the you know, if you're looking back, 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:33.080 maybe the turning point, you know, what was the experience 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.720 of that whole like for you? 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.000 I mean, okay, I pulled the T shot maybe twelve 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.920 yards left of my target. So it wasn't wasn't my 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.680 best T shot, but it wasn't one that was, you know, 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.800 off the charts, and nothing was really that bad about it. 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.960 And I got up there and you know, I can 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.480 hit sand wedge out of here. I just need to 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.320 hit the ball up about sixty yards. If I can 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.320 hit it sixty yards and I can reach the green 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.400 in three, it was a part five, and if I 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.120 can reach the green in three, I still might get 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.600 on and be putting Birdie. So I grabbed my sandwich 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.040 and I hit it and thought I hit it pretty good. 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:06.600 But it just hit the top of the lip of 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.000 the bunker and came back in. Now I got the 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.280 same shot. I go, I know I can get it 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.000 over the lip of that bunker. So I did it again. 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.680 Now I'm like, okay, now I know I can't get 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:19.960 it over the lip of the bunker. 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.560 Now just hit it out sideways. So I hit it 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.120 out sideways. 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.239 And then I thought, all right, now, now if I 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.320 really hit a big three wood, I might be able 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.160 to get it to the front edge. I'm really going 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.640 to jump on this one, and I duck hooked it 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.800 over into the gunk that's going left. 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.880 Oh deer, oh, deer, Oh deer clatters through the crowd 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.880 and plump it in all sorts. 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:45.240 Of trumble. 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.440 And ended up with a triple bogey. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.360 After Bobby holds out, he turns, looks back at roll 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.680 Truan's sixth hole and sticks out his tongue. 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.440 That's nobody's ever mentioned that, but I do remember doing that, 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.200 and I would do that sometimes out of battle. I 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.760 just say, I don't like you anymore. Yeah, onto the 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:10.320 next bell. 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.360 But the bad shots and the bad bounces keep coming. 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.320 The tenth hole is especially puzzling. The day before, Bobby 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.760 hit a perfect three iron to three feet. Today he 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.480 hits what feels like the same shot with the same club, 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.440 but this time it comes up short and he makes bogie. 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.920 So before you know when I shoot seventy eight six 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.760 over that day and the next day it was more 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.760 of the same kind of stuff. I was just a 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:42.320 little bit off, not quite as sharp, tee to Green 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.120 and Boki buttter, and this thing's not going my way. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.080 He finishes in a tie for tenth, four shots behind 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.320 the winner, Tom Watson. The way Bobby tells it, he 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.800 pouts for a bit then moves on. A month later, 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.320 he wins his first PGA Tour event, the Southern Open, 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.600 and by all indications, his career is moving in the 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.720 right direction. But his experience at the eighty two Open 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.600 does plant a seed of doubt about his game. Obviously, 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.560 his weekend performance wasn't great. But he also keeps thinking 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.480 about the practice rounds He played it true. 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.520 Tuesday, I shot sixty five in a practice room playing 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.160 with Gary Player and Johnny Miller, and then Wednesday I 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.720 went out and shut seventy five. And I was going 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.000 through a period where my game was more inconsistent, more 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.160 it's like just a little something off, and man, it 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.040 could be ten shots from one day to the next, 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.800 and it was driving me crazy because it was like, 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.440 it's just not that far off. How can it be? 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:44.960 What's going on there? 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.560 So Bobby finds himself struggling with the same problem, the 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.800 same mystery that started Homer Kelly on his quest forty 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.880 years earlier, how can I play so well on Tuesday 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.120 and so poorly on Wednesday? 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.440 So it led me down some more roads to discovery 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.480 of how can I find a swing that isn't quite 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.200 so temperamental? Maybe? 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.880 And I think that started, unfortunately kind of a rabbit 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:14.760 hole for me. 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.520 Nineteen eighty three ended up being a low point, not 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.600 just for Bobby Klampett, but for the whole golfing machine enterprise, 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.800 and it really was an enterprise. At that point. Ben 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.479 Doyle had a growing stable of students. Homer Kelly had 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.320 set up a process for educating and authorizing instructors, but 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.240 in eighty three, Homer Kelly, who was seventy five years 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.840 old by then, had a falling out with Ben Doyle. 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.440 Joe Daniels isn't totally sure why. 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.840 The first and utmost honest thing to say is I 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.080 wasn't there, and I need to make that completely clear. 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:54.720 So I really am not aware of exactly what created 0:32:54.800 --> 0:33:00.360 that issue. There was one. I think it unfortunate, Ben 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.280 being angry with Homer, Homer being disappointed in Ben. Just 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.400 both sides lost. There was no winner in that. 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.160 And then in the middle of a seminar with the 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.880 Georgia PGA, Homer Kelly collapsed and died of a heart attack. 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.840 Bobby couldn't go to his funeral because he had to 0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.240 be in Australia, where he was battling with his suddenly 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.920 defective golf swing. In the eighty three season, Bobby didn't 0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.360 finish in the top ten once and ultimately he decided 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:31.920 to part ways with Ben Doyle. 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.360 I became influenced and was led to believe that if 0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.440 I totally changed my swing, I wouldn't have some of 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.120 these temperamental issues. 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:43.640 With my swing, so to speak. 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.920 And I went to four different coaches, all big name coaches, 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.680 and they're all great and wanting to work with me. 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.240 But the thing that they all said, well, basically, your 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:54.960 swing sucks. 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.360 And we got to make some major changes. 0:33:58.040 --> 0:33:59.760 And I had one say to me, I have more 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.840 moving parts in an erector set, and another one say 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.840 to me, you better forget about anything you've ever learned 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:07.400 about the game and start all over. 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.359 One of these coaches, in fact, the one who made 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:18.959 the erector set comment, was Jimmy Ballard. Hey, Garret, Hi, Joe, 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.080 how are you sorry? Jimmy, how are you doing? I 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:25.319 was just talking to it, Joe, my bad. I do 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.839 that all the time, so forgive me. Jimmy has worked with, 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:33.359 among others, how Sutton, Curtis Strange, Sandy Lyle, Sabby Biasteros, 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.800 and for one day, Bobby Clamping. 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.000 I got a phone call from Bobby's mother and stepfather. 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.080 He was coming to play at Derryle and they told 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:43.640 me that they would like for me to take a 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:44.759 look at him and work with you. 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.120 It was tournament week at Dral, so a bunch of 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:48.400 Jimmy's players were out there. 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.960 I was working with one of the players at the time, 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.320 and I told him go ahead and get Bobby filmed 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.080 and I'll be ready in about fifteen or twenty minutes. Well, 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.600 I waited a little while. After I'd finished, they still 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.319 didn't come into the viewing room, so I sent for him, 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.200 and they came on in. And the reason they were 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.839 so long, my assistant told me. He said, the reason 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.839 we was so long, He said, he topped the first 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.600 five or six god balls, just topped them with a 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.160 five iron. 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.600 The conversation between Jimmy and Bobby quickly turned to the 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.480 golfing machine. 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.160 So I said, well, what is it you think is 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.520 right about? And he starts telling me all this stuff, 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.840 and finally I just said, look, Bobby, wait a minute. 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.800 If you're right and all this you're telling me is correct, 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.160 why did you top five or six fire irons out 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.640 there well ago, well before you hit one in the air. 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.320 And there was no answer. 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.640 Eventually, as Jimmy remembers it, Bobby walked out and they 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:40.720 never worked together again. 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.440 Yeah, And you know, here's the thing about the golfing machine. 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.200 The proofs in the eating of the pie of the 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.640 golf machine that's been around for a long time. How 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.200 many majors have been one with anybody said I'm working 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:52.719 on the golf machine. 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:54.799 I mean how many? 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.640 I have over fifteen major winners. If you doubt the 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:02.080 TPC and it worked, I'll be I found my players. 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.080 I give them one and maybe two thoughts, and the 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.839 one thought would back the backsling in a finish. But 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.600 you can't give them two backswing thoughts. 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.360 How could you do that? 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.440 You can't take that quick. It's when the club one 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.799 hundred miles an hour, So you can't go out there 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.600 with all these I'm going to do this and this 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.680 and this and doctor as across the piece. That's what 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.080 did appear to me the golf machine made clamp it 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.000 du and that's when he got mechanical, and that's when 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.440 he could He couldn't get through the ball at all. 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.080 What would you say to people who at this time 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.560 were blaming the golfing machine for your struggles? 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.000 Yeah, I guess that's that would be like you're in 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:54.479 journalism now, so you write articles, right, Yeah, that would 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.239 be like somebody saying you're two into the alphabet. 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:11.800 You're so Bobby ended up coming back to Homer Kelly's ideas, 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.400 and while he was never again a consistent factor on 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.160 the PGA Tour. He did have some good seasons on 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.680 the senior circuit. Today, he's a teacher himself, and he 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.920 has a book called The Impact Zone, which takes a 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.160 lot of inspiration from the golfing machine. Bobby's writing is 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.479 clearer than Homer's, but the principles are basically the same. 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.640 You can do it in a bunch of different ways. 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.680 Impact is what matters, and there's no mystery in the 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.719 golf swing. The ball goes where the club sends it. 0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.080 So as far as Bobby's concerned, his problem in the 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.319 eighties wasn't the golfing machine. It was going away from 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:51.400 the golfing machine. 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.880 I mean, the hindsight was there's kind of an old adage, 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.319 if it's not broke, don't try to fix it. And 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.480 probably would never have been a number one in the 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.560 world player with my old game and old swing, but 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.440 I would have won a lot more than one tournament 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:09.600 on the PGA Tour. 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.239 I'm convinced to that. 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.160 It would have been great for Bobby, and it would 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.040 have been great for the golfing machine, and it would 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.319 have been great for Homer. 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:22.120 And Ben either. If Bobby had gone on to the kind. 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:26.160 Of career that was expected, or if there were others 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.640 along the way in that time. I mean, if there 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.640 have been four or five people that were golfing machine advocates, 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.000 that'd have been different. But there was Bobby and it 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.400 didn't work out. You know, we're not robots. 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.520 And therein lies the thing that. 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.879 Would always fail with the golfing machine or with any 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.080 golf instruction method, is that at some point an infallible 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.960 way of doing things is being executed by the most 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.879 flawed or as it were. 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.880 It's just, you know, we're. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:13.440 Human and science like this can be perfect in theory. 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.440 And we don't live in theory. We live in fractics. 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.759 As Bobby Klampitt's playing her waned, so did the reputation 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.759 of Homer Kelly's work. But the golfing machine always had 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:31.040 its advocates, including Steve Elkington, a major champion who won 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.239 ten times on the PGA Tour. In these days, more 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.919 and more golfers and golf instructors seem to have Homer 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.680 Kelly's name on the tip of their tongues. Rice in 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.080 Deshambo says the golfing machine changed his life I mean, 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.359 he says a lot of things, but that's one of them. 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.279 So for long time golfing machine people, the twenty first 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.920 century feels something like redemption. They say, look at how science, technology, 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.000 and data have seeped into just about every aspect of 0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:01.120 the game, from fitness to course management. You could argue, 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.960 and many do, that this is the golfing machine era 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.800 and Homer Kelly just missed it by a couple of decades. 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.040 But there are also those who insist that there's still 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.120 room from mystery in golf, that the game will always 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.719 be primarily in art. And the conflict between these two 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.839 points of view science versus art is what the writer 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.840 Bret sir Gallis discusses in his book Golf's Holy War, which. 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.240 Came out in May of twenty twenty on Simon and Schuster. 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.040 And the big question for many of us is what 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.960 to take from both sides, what to learn from science 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.239 and what to set aside for art. 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.400 It's kind of a question that is inside golf as 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.400 well as outside. I mean, the world in general is 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.520 kind of going through this revolution of information and data 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.520 that's at our fingertips, and. 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.480 How do we deal with it all? 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.120 How do we reconcile it with the world that we 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.880 live in and use it for our betterment. As kind 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.919 of a really big question, and it's one that's playing 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.800 out in golf and rather dramatic terms. 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.160 Just consider the job of a twenty first century golf instructor. 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.080 Be right for this professional to ignore the recent science 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.440 of the golf swing. As Ben Doyle like to say, 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:06.840 truth is truth. 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.200 They say the numbers don't lie, right, these are indisputable, 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.160 But how do you create those numbers? 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:14.120 How do you do it? 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:18.319 How do you change a complex motor pattern? And the 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.359 more we've learned about learning, the more neuroscience has come 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.480 in and explained how we create new memories and how 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:32.040 we change our patterns, it's really not through explicit information. 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.080 So whereas the golfing machine is, here is the most 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.359 it is the most explicit book possible because it is 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:44.319 nothing but facts and information and numbers. But the way 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.320 our brain works, the way we learn as human beings, 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.920 is implicitly right. So when you start your backswing, how 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.600 do you start your backswing? You have no idea how 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.359 you start your backswing none, You have no idea how 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.040 you make your fingers move. 0:41:58.080 --> 0:41:59.600 And if you map your brain. 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.399 Maybe you can explain the pathways that enable you to move, 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.160 but you don't know how you just started that process. So, 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.160 I mean, once you really think about it, it's very 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.319 difficult to change something that you don't quite understand. 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.640 In other words, how do we do what the science 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.680 tells us to do? There might be some mystery in that, 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:26.880 maybe some small space for art. And Brett tells me 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.040 that this is the problem that a golf instructor and 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.120 named Mike Hebron ran up against. Hebron is a big 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.920 golfing machine guy, and he was eager to impart all 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.839 of Homer Kelly's information to his students, and. 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.560 Then he ran into students who weren't getting better. Like 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.040 this happens to every Almost every teacher I talked to 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.799 had the same experience where they were teaching. They thought 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.239 they knew all, they thought they knew everything, and then 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.560 some students weren't getting better, and the ones that really 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:52.600 care said why. 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:56.040 So Hebron began to take classes about how people learn. 0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.759 He remained a science driven instructor, but he struck a 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.560 deal with the art of teaching. 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.520 Now when he teaches, he has all of the background 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.560 of the golfing machine. He knows that stuff as well 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.200 as anybody on the planet, and he never mentions it 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:11.960 to a student. 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:12.360 Ever. 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.560 He has them playing games because he understands that that's 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:17.560 how you learn. 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.360 Essentially, Mike Hebron found his own way of living peacefully 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:29.440 within golf's holy war. Bobby Clampett has a story he 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.000 likes to tell that I think encompasses a lot of 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.960 what we're talking about here. It was nineteen seventy nine 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.000 and Bobby, at the height of his amateur career, had 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.759 qualified for his first Masters and the aspiring golf scientist 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.000 was paired with one of golf's great artists, sixty eight 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:46.400 year old Sam Snead. 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.960 Pretty cool for an eighteen year old kid to get 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.239 paired with the man who in the first golf book 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.000 I picked up was how to Play Golf by Sam Snead, 0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:58.799 And so now I get to play with him. 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.719 On Friday, they get three holes into their second. 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.720 Round and we had a thunderstorm came in at Augusta 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.840 National and we had to all go back to the 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.360 clubhouse and he said, kid, come with me. So we 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.520 went into the dining room and we sat down for 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.600 four hours just the two of us and talked. It 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.840 was like one of the its, like he was becoming 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.200 my grandfather. We just sat there and talked and had 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:30.800 a great time. Then they called us back out on 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.480 the course after a four hour delay. We went back 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.439 out and we get to the fifteenth hole and it's 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:40.400 really getting dark. It's like eight fifteen and it's dark. 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.279 And I said, I called him, mister Sneaed and I said, 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.040 mister Sneed, you think we're still supposed to be playing 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.520 and as dark as is. He said, keep on playing, son. 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.440 You don't stop playing until they come get you. 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.080 So we get to the sixteenth hole and it's really dark. 0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:58.800 At sixteen. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.960 You can barely make out the flag stick, almost a 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:06.160 little reflection on the water, but it's dark. I played 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.680 sixteen and we're heading to seventeen and I said, mister Sneed, really, 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.680 I mean, I've never played in this kind. 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.200 Of darkness before. He said, keep on playing, son. 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.680 They finished seventeen, and finally some AUGUSTA members come get them. 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.040 It's too dark to play here at the Masters. We're 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.720 going to call play for the day and said, no kidding, 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:30.160 So play Ruzoom at eight am tomorrow morning. 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.120 So I spend the night thinking about the eighteenth hole, 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.160 and I figure that I have to par eighteen to 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.360 make the cut. The cut's already been determined. I'm the 0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.080 last group. Everybody knows the cut's going to be at 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:44.839 one over, and I'm one over. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.719 Bobby comes up with a plan for how he's going 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.359 to play the eighteenth hole. He'll hit three wood off 0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.880 the tee, six iron into the green. So in the morning, 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.640 on the driving range, all he practices are three woods 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.279 and six irons. But then as he's walking down the 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.480 hill towards the eighteenth tee, he sees someone in the distance. 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.840 Sam Snead is on the back of the tee warming 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.280 up by hitting balls toward Rays Creek with that famous 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.279 dynamic flowing golf swing, the swing that Bobby had tried 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.600 to mimic as a kid using Sneed's book. 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.840 As I'm walking down and watching him, I suddenly realized. 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:22.600 And why I didn't think about this before? I don't 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.839 know that every time I had hit three with off 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.879 the tee and the practice runs, I bogied the hole. 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:29.880 And so I asked my caddy, I said, what do 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:30.320 you think? 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:31.799 He says, I don't know. 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.239 What do you feel like I thought about it for 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.399 a moment and I got down there on the tee 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.200 and I said, give me the driver, and I hit 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.920 this little perfect butter cut up with the driver between 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:43.960 the bunkers and an A and air at about fifteen 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.879 feet and made it for Birdie to make the cut 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:47.760 in my first Master. 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:48.839 So that was pretty fun. 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:56.080 Today we might say that driver is the statistically correct play, 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.239 that the data supports it right, and it probably does. 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.480 But for Bobby, in that moment, it seems like it 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.160 was an intuitive choice, unlocked by something about Sam Sneed's 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.280 golf swing, maybe something to do with feeling and memory, 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:20.960 maybe something that science can't really explain. When I run 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.920 this by Brett Sergallis, he's reminded of another golf instructor. 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.480 He met someone who is very technically minded for a 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:30.160 long time, but then suddenly veered in the opposite direction. 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.120 And the way he explained it to me was, there 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.160 are some things that can't be broken down into sequences. 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:41.280 So the golf swing is not a sequence of photos. 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.480 There's something intrinsic about the motion that can't be stopped. 0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.560 It's like stopping a stream. He said, yeah, And so 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.240 you can pick it apart in pieces and show where 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.640 things are. But that piece doesn't exist without the piece 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.600 before it and the piece after it. So if that 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.880 was me watching have Snee hit balls in the raised Creek, 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:06.040 I would probably be envious of his tempo. 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:06.879 Right. 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.840 You know, it's like watching an artist at work. It's like, 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:15.719 could you imagine like watching Michelangelo paint. You see it happening, 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:21.200 and it's so much more than each line, each brushstroke 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.839 of Michelangelo's right, it's the whole. It's what's happening at 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.720 that moment. And there's something fluid about that. There's something 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.520 stream like about it where you can't stop it. It's 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:39.719 just the beauty is in its completeness. 0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:55.920 This episode of Friday Stories was produced and hosted by 0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.960 me Garrett Morrison. It was mixed and engineered by Cameron 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:03.080 Hurtis and we had transcript help from Meg Atkins. Lots 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.640 of books mentioned in this episode. We have Golf's Holy 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.960 War by Brent Sergallis, The Impact Zone by Bobby Klampett, 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.160 and Homer Kelly's Golfing Machine by Scott Dummer, and of 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.959 course the Golfing Machine itself by Homer Kelly himself. Thanks 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.560 as well to Joe Daniels, Jimmy Ballard, and George Pepper. 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:20.879 By the way, if you stick around after this music 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.960 fades out, we do have a little extra tidbit from George. 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.440 We'd love to know what you think of Friday Stories, 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.000 so feel free to reach out on Twitter or Instagram 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.280 or leave a rating and review on iTunes. Thanks for listening. 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:42.880 Yeah, I think if you go back and look at 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.520 the history of the game, particularly at the highest levels, 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.440 many of the best players can be pretty well classified 0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:54.120 as either mechanics or magicians. And if you look back 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.000 as far back as Harry Varden, he was very much mechanic. 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.239 He wrote this book, invented Varden grip. He had very 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:06.000 precise ways of very precise ball striker. A few years later, 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.080 the main one of the main players is Walter Hagen. 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.120 He's a very much magician. He said, I expect to 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.399 miss five or six shots every round, and he went 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.239 would hit a lot of shots into the rob and 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:25.040 blasted out further forward. Bobby Jones a very cerebral, mechanical 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:29.839 golfer taught by Stuart Maiden's very specific swing, and then 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:33.480 he went on himself to give off some very precise 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:38.719 lesson going forward from him, Sam Snead, another magician, barefoot 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:44.000 boy and with natural talent, double jointed, did everything naturally. 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.200 The other side of Snead was of course Hogan, perhaps 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:53.040 the ultimate mechanic, and you know Palmer magician Nicholas a mechanic. 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.920 After that, it gets a little muddled. I think Tiger 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:02.520 had it all, but Bobby interestingly had the kind of 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.880 the spirit of a magician and the work ethic of 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:10.200 a mechanic, and maybe it didn't suit him. 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:10.560 I don't know.