WEBVTT - Bonus Episode | Halfway Home

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday, I went out in the afternoon, going out for

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<v Speaker 1>my last you know time on the Red Field. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so contained and it's so secure, it has to be right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a high level security institution. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>look far without having to look to a fence, steel

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<v Speaker 1>bar reinforced glass door, tall twelve foot defences covered in

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<v Speaker 1>razor wire. There's something there that's going to remind you

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not free, you know, you are confined. My

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<v Speaker 1>mind was whirling, you know, thinking about all of what ifs,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities, what am I going to do? What's this

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like? Is it really going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm going to tell you something. Right up to

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute, I was holding my breath waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer to drop.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 3>You, my minness, I have to hise my feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw rose deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry lists in this VALI teas. I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>RelA show great rish to the old day stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So stop.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it just upsets everybody, but I saw this coming.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest with you, I saw this coming.

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<v Speaker 5>Kelsey and I are sitting in a hotel room in

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<v Speaker 5>Miami along with Scott Cup. Just two weeks earlier, Leo

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<v Speaker 5>had been officially granted parole. Since then, I'd been in

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<v Speaker 5>near constant contact with Chrissy and Scott as they coordinated

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<v Speaker 5>plans for Leo's first day out of prison. Here's what

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<v Speaker 5>we were expecting. Leo was scheduled to walk out of

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<v Speaker 5>the gates at Everglade's Correctional Institution at nine AM, where

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<v Speaker 5>a crowd of family, friends and supporters would be gathered

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<v Speaker 5>to cheer him on and witness his first steps of

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<v Speaker 5>freedom after spending thirty six years behind bars. Leo's lawyers

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<v Speaker 5>from years past were also planning to attend, and so

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<v Speaker 5>was Jonathan Martin. He's the Florida senator who spoke at

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<v Speaker 5>Leo's parole hearing last year, and it has been in

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<v Speaker 5>discussions with Scott Cupp about Leo's prospects for exoneration. Chrissy

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<v Speaker 5>had planned a whole day for him. First, there would

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<v Speaker 5>be a luncheon at the hotel where Leo would say

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<v Speaker 5>some words and play some music. Then he'd get into

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<v Speaker 5>a car and drive with Chrissy to see his daughter, Ashley,

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<v Speaker 5>who had just given birth to his third grandson. Then

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<v Speaker 5>he'd head to the Halfway House in Tampa, where he'd

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<v Speaker 5>unpack and settle in and begin the adjustment to life

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<v Speaker 5>outside of prison. Kelsey and I flew into Miami and

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<v Speaker 5>headed over to the Mikasuki Hotel the night before the release.

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<v Speaker 5>This hotel is right on the outskirts of Miami and

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<v Speaker 5>less than a mile from where Leo would spend his

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<v Speaker 5>final night in prison. We were feeling pretty excited as

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<v Speaker 5>we headed to the Mikasuki Hotel, but just as we

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<v Speaker 5>were walking up to the front desk to check in,

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<v Speaker 5>I got a call from Chrissy.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I didn't really get the full story

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<v Speaker 6>of what she told you on that call.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, she basically said, this is what I've heard.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything else. I'm on my way over.

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<v Speaker 7>But they have moved the walkout time to six am,

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<v Speaker 7>number one, number two. Only three people are going Chrissy, Dave,

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<v Speaker 7>and Pam picking up Leo.

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<v Speaker 4>No media.

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<v Speaker 7>The other thing they said is, as far as we know,

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<v Speaker 7>no Mikasuki, you can't stop there, got to go straight

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<v Speaker 7>to the Noah's house.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't know who issued the orders. Was it the prison

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<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed with the logistics of a high profile release, or

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<v Speaker 5>did this come from higher up in the Florida Department

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<v Speaker 5>of Corrections. There was no way to know, but after

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<v Speaker 5>that phone call from the prison, we did know that

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<v Speaker 5>all of Chrissy's plans for Leo's release were done.

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<v Speaker 8>For If they say get in the car and go

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<v Speaker 8>straight to Naas, he better get in the car and

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<v Speaker 8>goes straight to Naas because at this point, as upset

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<v Speaker 8>as everybody is, if that's what they're telling him to do, better,

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<v Speaker 8>he better do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Sitting in the hotel room with Scott Kupp, we tried

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out what to do next. We exchanged a

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<v Speaker 5>few texts with Seth Miller, Leo's lawyer from the Innocents

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<v Speaker 5>Project of Florida. Since he's been through this process many times.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm curious, has he ever experienced this before? He

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<v Speaker 6>just told me he's done like thirty walkouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Jonathan Martin was supposed to be here when

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<v Speaker 7>Leo got out, and now at six am, its kind

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<v Speaker 7>of hard for him to leave at three thirty to

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<v Speaker 7>get from Fort Myers or where the hell he's coming from.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuff that's The prison has set these last minute conditions

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<v Speaker 5>for Leo's release and it's final. It seems like just

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<v Speaker 5>one more reminder that walking through that gate might look

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<v Speaker 5>like freedom, but parole is still basically prison without bars.

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<v Speaker 4>We have records, and we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it.

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<v Speaker 6>Dave and Pam, Leo's family from Massachusetts, find their way

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<v Speaker 6>to Gilbert's hotel room, where everyone seems to be congregating.

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<v Speaker 6>It's nice to see them at least. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>long and complicated story, but since you haven't really heard

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<v Speaker 6>their voices before, here's some quick backstory to get you

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<v Speaker 6>caught up. The woman Leo called mom growing up is

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<v Speaker 6>really his stepmother. Cheryl married Leo's dad when Leo was

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<v Speaker 6>a toddler, and she raised him. It was never hidden

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<v Speaker 6>from Leo that his biological mother was out there, but

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<v Speaker 6>he had never met her until twenty eighteen. That's when Leo,

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<v Speaker 6>with Chrissy's health, finally reconnected with his birth mother, Sandy.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't imagine that it's already nerve racking to reach

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<v Speaker 6>out to a biological parent who you've been separated from

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<v Speaker 6>since you were three, But reaching out to a biological

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<v Speaker 6>parent and saying you're convicted of killing your wife and

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<v Speaker 6>you're innocent, I could see how that might not go

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<v Speaker 6>over well, But actually she quickly embraced Leo, and along

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<v Speaker 6>with Sandy, came Dave and Pam. Sandy referred to her husband,

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<v Speaker 6>Dave as the love of her life, and Pam is

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<v Speaker 6>the half sister Leo never knew existed. Sandy, Dave, and

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<v Speaker 6>Pam traveled down from Massachusetts to visit Leo frequently. They

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<v Speaker 6>had a couple years of family reunions in the Hardy

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<v Speaker 6>Correctional Visitation Park, and then Sandy passed away in April

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<v Speaker 6>of twenty twenty. Since then, Dave and Pam have truly

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<v Speaker 6>become Leo's family, so much so that Dave has legally

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<v Speaker 6>adopted Leo, his deceased wife's adult son, and Pam and

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<v Speaker 6>Leo are lovingly referred to as the twins because although

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<v Speaker 6>they've spent a lifetime apart, they have so much in common,

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<v Speaker 6>and their shared sense of humor means they are almost

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<v Speaker 6>always laughing in each other's presence. So that's Dave and Pam.

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<v Speaker 9>And Chrissy was saying that only the three of us

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<v Speaker 9>can pick him up and talk tomorrow morning and take

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<v Speaker 9>him away. They wait, way, what the hell the object

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<v Speaker 9>was to have something here? And then take him to

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<v Speaker 9>Fort Myers so he can see Ashley, his grandchildren. They

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<v Speaker 9>said to him, you can have a target on your

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<v Speaker 9>back because of the notoriety and everything out there. They're

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<v Speaker 9>going to be watching it. Be careful, absolutely everything by

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<v Speaker 9>the book, steady on. Whatever you need us to do

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<v Speaker 9>will do. So stay focused, get all of the rules

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<v Speaker 9>they forgive you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's our focus.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you two are at least included with the.

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<v Speaker 1>But how sad is it that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the one that can go.

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<v Speaker 10>It makes me feel bad just because that's me, and

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<v Speaker 10>I really want to see him walk.

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<v Speaker 7>Out of that door, like that's totally what I want

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<v Speaker 7>to do.

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<v Speaker 6>But we wanted to see him walk out too. It's

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<v Speaker 6>a moment we've been imagining for five years. But there's

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<v Speaker 6>no time to think about that now. Plans are still

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<v Speaker 6>shifting and it's getting late. There is one thing that

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't changed. The vehicle that Leo will ride in to

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<v Speaker 6>leave prison property Dave's black Tesla.

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted him to ride in my car. I didn't

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<v Speaker 9>want him to ride in some rental car from home mother.

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<v Speaker 9>I want him to ride in my car. My daughter's

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<v Speaker 9>written in my car, my grandkids are written in my

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<v Speaker 9>com My son in law's written my car and I

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<v Speaker 9>want my car.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't even know what Leo knows at this point

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<v Speaker 6>about the change in plans. The prison had already taken

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<v Speaker 6>away as tablets, so we can't get in touch with him.

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<v Speaker 6>All we could do was hope that he'd be able

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<v Speaker 6>to make a phone call. We meet up with Chrissy

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<v Speaker 6>in her hotel room and watch the sunset from her balcony.

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<v Speaker 6>Leo would take his first steps outside the barbed wire

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<v Speaker 6>gate before the sun would rise again. We set our

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<v Speaker 6>alarms for four am and try to get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Quarter to three, quarter three, I was awake. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>sleep two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense to get up, now, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Cause I'm locked in this eight by

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<v Speaker 1>ten cell, my roommates sleeping, and uh, I said, now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just lay here for a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>And I lay there and let.

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<v Speaker 1>My mind just burn out, you know, think about everything

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna do. And then like quarter after three,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, man, get out of bed, just get.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of bed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I slowly, you know, got ready, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>was already dressed in my blues, brushed my teeth. Four o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>my door rolled open. I knew why it was open,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sage came and and uh. I came out

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<v Speaker 1>carry my little blue bag and all that had in

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<v Speaker 1>it was my Bible and the Koran and UH some journals.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought me to the front and they put me

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<v Speaker 1>in a holding cell by myself at four o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. And I knew I was gonna be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there a while because I'm not leaving till six. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife was giving permission to bring my clothes no earlier

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<v Speaker 1>than five forty five, So now I'm gonna be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and just sitting there from four to five forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my Bible with me, so that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sat in this little cell, locked in a cage,

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<v Speaker 1>and just prayed and waited.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, I'm about to head downstairs. It's five point

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<v Speaker 11>fifteen in the morning, and today is the day Leo's

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<v Speaker 11>gonna walk out of prison. We're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 11>to see it, but it's still gonna happen, and that's

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<v Speaker 11>the good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We head outside. It's been raining since we got up.

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<v Speaker 6>For Leo's gonna be released in the dark and in

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<v Speaker 6>the rain.

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<v Speaker 5>We see Chrissy with Dave and Pam packing up the

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<v Speaker 5>car with all the food that was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 5>spread out in a buffet for guests. She's also packed

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<v Speaker 5>a bag with clothes for Leo to change into since

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<v Speaker 5>he'll have to leave his prison blues behind.

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<v Speaker 12>So we're on away.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna go get him.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 5>Once Chrissy, Dave, and Pam load up and take off,

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<v Speaker 5>we jump in the car and are right behind them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's them.

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<v Speaker 13>We're there right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh my gosh, don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Get like I'm The drive lasts all of two minutes.

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<v Speaker 9>We want.

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<v Speaker 5>Dave, Pam and Chrissy drive onto prison grounds in the

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<v Speaker 5>Tesla and I pull over and flip the hazards on.

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<v Speaker 12>So we turn into the prison property and get around

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<v Speaker 12>a curve and there's like three or four cars with

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<v Speaker 12>their lights on and a barricade. So they all come

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<v Speaker 12>running to these officers and they are on walkie talkies

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<v Speaker 12>and they come to the door and they say, we

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<v Speaker 12>roll down the window and they take our driver's license

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<v Speaker 12>and check our names, and then they ask for his clothes.

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<v Speaker 12>And I had him in a bag next to me,

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<v Speaker 12>so we open the window and give him the clothes,

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<v Speaker 12>and I hear on the walkie talkie Majors taking the clothes,

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<v Speaker 12>taking the clothes, and then comes back to us and

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<v Speaker 12>is following the major.

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<v Speaker 5>We're parked on the side of the road across from

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<v Speaker 5>the prison entrance. The shoulder isn't wide enough to keep

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<v Speaker 5>us out of the lane while cars fly past us.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know if there's a fucking spot.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean used to have like three feet over there. God,

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<v Speaker 11>it's really just.

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<v Speaker 6>Fully dark out.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, like, how much are we into the lane?

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit? So fucking depressing like this, you.

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<v Speaker 11>Can't believe they're making it do it this way? What

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<v Speaker 11>did the headlights of a tesla look like?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>The night before, we all decided that even if we

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't witness those first steps of freedom, we still wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be as close as we could to the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>More cars filled with friends and family members line up

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<v Speaker 5>behind us. We're all peering through the dark waiting for

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<v Speaker 5>the outline of the black tesla to appear.

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<v Speaker 1>And time went by like that, and before I knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they bought the clothes to me. I changed out

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<v Speaker 1>of everything, and.

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<v Speaker 12>Then we go to another checkpoint and there's another guard gate,

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<v Speaker 12>and officers come and they check our driver's license, they

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<v Speaker 12>check the trunk, and then they say go to the

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<v Speaker 12>front pavilion where we normally go for a visit.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was able to go out the gate. No

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<v Speaker 4>inmates for any reason walk to that gate because that's

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<v Speaker 4>the front gate.

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<v Speaker 1>And so went through there and then they took me

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<v Speaker 1>directly out.

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<v Speaker 12>So the car stops and I jump out and I

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<v Speaker 12>run up to this pavilion area. It's like a covered

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<v Speaker 12>area and there's two wardens and suits and they're standing

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<v Speaker 12>there and I was kind of We're just kind of

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<v Speaker 12>chit chatting, casual conversation, you know, like just trying to

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<v Speaker 12>be polite, and it's still raining, and the intensity is

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<v Speaker 12>just building for me, building, building building.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, guys, so they're gonna let me go

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<v Speaker 1>open front gate. And I went through it. It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, And next thing I know, in the rain, in

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<v Speaker 12>the dark, the wardens turned around and there he was,

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<v Speaker 12>and I saw him in his clothes and his little

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<v Speaker 12>blue bag, and he just walked really fast to me

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<v Speaker 12>and we just like like the intensity of that hug

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<v Speaker 12>was magical, like we did it, We did it, we

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<v Speaker 12>did it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chrissy was like hugging and crying, and the hugging

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<v Speaker 1>was a great hug and all I'm like, okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we hug somewhere else please? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>These people got guns and I want to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, you know what's going fee.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to change my mind. You know, I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>jeans now, we're not going back to those.

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<v Speaker 1>As tighter as these are than those I was wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting those back on, never again. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the door closes and.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just quiet, just quiet. Prisons are utterly noisy places.

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<v Speaker 4>They echo people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yelling and screaming, laughing, whatever, and it's constant noise, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got in that car and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very quiet. And then started moving and it

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<v Speaker 1>was still quiet, like the car doesn't make any noise.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't sound like anything. And he used

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<v Speaker 1>to have like some guy running. I was waiting for him.

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<v Speaker 1>We just started moving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It comes head lighters.

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<v Speaker 14>It's it's a fan with blinkers on. M m no,

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<v Speaker 14>it's that does look like a tesla, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I think that's them?

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<v Speaker 11>Is that them?

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<v Speaker 5>A car comes out and takes a left. We're not

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<v Speaker 5>sure it's them. It's so dark out. I try to

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<v Speaker 5>follow them on no, no, no, I gotta two traffic first.

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<v Speaker 6>Decline. But what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I hope I was them. It looks like

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<v Speaker 6>a toss summer.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, by what you said, I can't imagine what Leo's thinking.

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 5>If that is him up ahead. My heart is pounding

0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.360
<v Speaker 5>trying to catch up. Something about this moment feels more

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 5>like an escape than a walk out. I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to get as far away from this prison as fast

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<v Speaker 5>as possible.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, let me text proceed. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>she's gonna fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm driving down the road a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I think there's some people following us,

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<v Speaker 1>and that.

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<v Speaker 5>Looks like a Massachusetts plight dinners.

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<v Speaker 1>Get closer because I'm power they're gonna follow us all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the Tampa Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Kursy said, yes, okay, Oh my god, we're gonna car

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<v Speaker 6>behind Leo.

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 4>And the rain's letting up a little. And when she

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 4>told me it was was you, guys. I was like, okay, okay,

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 4>that that made me feel a lot better.

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<v Speaker 5>Lea must be freaked out in that car. It's like,

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<v Speaker 5>all it is is a big computer screen.

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:42.680
<v Speaker 4>There's no but you know, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Knobs or I mean, I'm freaked out by it. So

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<v Speaker 6>I spend thirty six years in persons.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe he's up there. We head west as

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:58.160
<v Speaker 5>the sun rises behind us. We drive out of the rain.

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 5>As our little caravan cuts across the Tammiami Trail led

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<v Speaker 5>by the black Tesla with Leo inside.

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<v Speaker 12>The rain stopped and the day brightened as we were driving,

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 12>and the sun came out and the rains just stopped

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 12>and we started to breathe. So it was the most

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 12>magical moment of my life.

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<v Speaker 5>About twenty miles down the road, the Tesla's left turn

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.720
<v Speaker 5>signal starts blinking in front of us. Chrissy says she

0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 5>needs to pull over for a bathroom stop, and we

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 5>all stopped too, and everyone gets out. The back door

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 5>of the tesla swings open, and suddenly there's Leo standing

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 5>in street clothes in a parking lot miles from prison.

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 5>No handcuffs, no barbed wire, no guards in sight. It

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<v Speaker 5>may not be the walkout from the main gate that

0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 5>everyone was imagining, but he's here.

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<v Speaker 10>He's out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Hi mm hmm, hey buddy, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 6>H.

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<v Speaker 2>Here come the boys.

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<v Speaker 15>Hey, hey, hi, hey buddy, Hey buddy.

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<v Speaker 10>Come here, buddy, Hollo you buddy, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You made it?

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<v Speaker 6>I want to meet the new one.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, you got your little Holly Davidson jacket on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Leo's family and friends gather around him, hugging and taking photos.

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 5>But it's a quick stop. Leo was anxious to get

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<v Speaker 5>back on the road and get to Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>Buddy, okay, all right, yeah, you know I'm still still

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 4>fearing us as hell.

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure what I feel, to be honest,

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I think once you get there and get

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<v Speaker 1>settled exactly, thinks it'd be better.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, back on the road, we continue to follow

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Leo to Noah's house, where he's required to check in.

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<v Speaker 4>By the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of in shock that I'm in this car.

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Test me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking it's count time right now.

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<v Speaker 13>That's pretty though, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have no idea, you know, it's you know, it's crazy.

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And I imagined this for a long time, many years.

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought about this is being able to look out

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>at the horizon and be able to see far without

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>having to look through fence or or raise a wire

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<v Speaker 1>or you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything like that. That's just amazing.

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 1>There was a time where we were driving across a bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>The water has sew me on the boat.

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 15>Wow, that is crazy how far you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to be able to see that far, that far

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and not have to look through anything, it was absolutely

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary that it was amazing and and it made my

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>heart race, keep waiting to wake up from a dream

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that would not be real, that would really suck.

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<v Speaker 6>The drive from the prison to the halfway house is

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 6>a little over four hours. Inside our car, we spend

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.719
<v Speaker 6>time listening to podcasts, of course, but within the tesla,

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 6>Leo was learning how to work his first smartphone.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 13>And then there's should be a gallery for your pictures.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 12>So Lee had bottom a phone, and before he got

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 12>the phone, before he got out of prison, he's like,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 12>I don't I don't know why you people are on

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 12>the phone all the time, and I'm just gonna have

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 12>a phone attached to the wall like I always did.

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 12>And I'm like, no, no, no, You're gonna have a phone

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 12>and it has everything in it. We had pre programmed

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 12>his phone numbers and some apps.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 13>There's your camera, okay.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 12>So when I gave it to him, he was it

0:25:55.560 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 12>was definitely foreign to him, and so it was super

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 12>fun just to show them know what to do.

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>What a snapchat?

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 13>It's an dumbass social you can you can send little

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 13>snaps picture or a little text and then it goes

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 13>to the other person and then it's erased after thirty.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Somethings or something.

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 12>I told him, I said, you use that phone for everything.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 12>I said, when you want to go to the gym,

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 12>you gotta beep, when you go to buy stuff, you

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 12>beep on here.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you put Google Earth on it? There? I love that.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 6>It probably goes without saying, but a lot has changed

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 6>in those thirty six years Leo spent locked up.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 12>I was looking at the pictures we took and I'm like,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 12>we're old compared to well, compared to I.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Can't see what I look old.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 13>I look gold.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing, this is crazy. We don't

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>have mirrors in the prison. I don't have mirrors.

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 4>We have these.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Little pieces of shiny plastic that you can buy out

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of the canteen if you want them. They gotta They

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>got a stainless steel thing that's bolted to the to

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the concrete.

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 4>But I mean it's as reflective as a hubcap. Mm

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Literally, I mean you.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Might see a shadow of yourself in it. You're not

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna shave it. And so they sell these little shiny

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>plastic things that have you know, some type of uh

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>adhesive silver thing that and it's better than the hub

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>cap y, but it still doesn't show a true reflection.

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And so when you see yourself in the mirror after

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty six years, it's shocking. It's literally shocking because the

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>m the little plastic thing is softens you know, lines

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, blemishes and all that. You don't really

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>see it in that cause it's not true reflection. And

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>so you see how I look, And I said, oh damn,

0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I god old. Remember what I told you when we

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>first met.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a long road.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I didn't even know be this long. You

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>don't expect justice to be this slow, but we didn't

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>even know half of what that was actually going on.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, we had to do the time to find the truth.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 14>I guess.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 4>One thing we can definitely say is and has been meaningful.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of vine absorbing that, the fact that it

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it's over for me, you know, I'm.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 4>At least that part of it.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>H m hmm.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And then the experience. We stopped at the bird King.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I need to use the bathroom.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 4>Are we going in?

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>M this is very very weird.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Do I look like a prisoner?

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't love for sure?

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Should we get one of those hats?

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<v Speaker 7>Lot of time?

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<v Speaker 10>No, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's will be in here.

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<v Speaker 15>So this is the.

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<v Speaker 16>Venue, and you choose what you.

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<v Speaker 11>Would like and then you go up there.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just get a whap on the cheese. I

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<v Speaker 4>look obvious for sure.

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<v Speaker 14>That was a little fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm freaking scared to death here.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a chicken sandwich and she had some other

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<v Speaker 1>little thing of wrap. And the girl said thirty something

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and exchange. I'm like, Holy Mother of God, is

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<v Speaker 1>it to come with a back massage or something?

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy? Thirty thirty something dollars? I said, a whopper, whopper,

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<v Speaker 4>one whopper with cheese. That's it, just cheese. What else

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<v Speaker 4>is on there gold thirty something dollars. That's crazy, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>By early afternoon, we pull up behind the tesla at

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<v Speaker 5>Noah's Community Outreach, the Halfway House, where Leah will spend

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<v Speaker 5>the next year. Right, Yeah, Leah and Pam walk into

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<v Speaker 5>the office when he needs to check.

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<v Speaker 4>In, I just walk in. Yes, I'm not used to this.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey man, I am so scared. I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know what to do.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't be scared.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be scared.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm a sister. I'm just to be scared.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 17>We'll be here tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, don't be scared.

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<v Speaker 11>You did the right place.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, it's okay, it's okay, come on.

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<v Speaker 10>You.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 15>That's all that matters right now, and we're here to

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<v Speaker 15>help you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, it's the Parker Sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, my name is Leo Schofield. Is my sister, Pamela.

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<v Speaker 14>But you're going to the new house.

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<v Speaker 2>Is good?

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<v Speaker 5>Leo shown to the house, one that's newly built where

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<v Speaker 5>a bed has been reserved for him.

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<v Speaker 13>I love let me tell you the new house off

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<v Speaker 13>the chain.

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<v Speaker 18>I love it.

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<v Speaker 15>But we have eight ministry houses and we just finished

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<v Speaker 15>building that one.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it's brand okay.

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<v Speaker 5>But first he stopped by some familiar faces.

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<v Speaker 4>There's Greg right there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's my buddy Greg. You know all these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>There's Jimmy right here.

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<v Speaker 10>What's happening? My sister family, what's happening right?

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<v Speaker 5>Most of the guys here are also recent graduates of

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<v Speaker 5>the Everglade c I Corrections Transition Program. Leo spent a

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<v Speaker 5>total of ten months there, and in that time, thirty

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<v Speaker 5>nine men were released on parole. Today, with Leo walking out,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the fortieth.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Leo moves his stuff into his new home, which is clean,

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<v Speaker 5>freshly painted, and sparse.

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<v Speaker 4>All this stuff pop.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that Leo is here and checked in, he's finally

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<v Speaker 5>able to breathe, and he begins to reflect on his

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<v Speaker 5>new surroundings and new existence.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I was out of my element until

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<v Speaker 1>we got here. You know I needed to get here.

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<v Speaker 1>What is strange to me?

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<v Speaker 5>Leo spins around in his seat to knock on the

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<v Speaker 5>dry wall behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably run through that with no problem, for real.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I sign it.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I've been in a concrete and steel block, right,

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<v Speaker 1>solid unit for thirty six years, and you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>through that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel it, you can just.

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<v Speaker 1>The sound of your voice inside something like that, the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's so enclosed and encased. You know, inside those cells,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a sense of security. You know, you have a

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sense of safety in that as compared to this, because

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<v Speaker 1>if I can break.

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<v Speaker 4>Through it, who can break in it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And nobody's breaking in money see one, two

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<v Speaker 1>or one cell. You're not coming through that door. If

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the door is locked, you're not coming through unless it

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<v Speaker 1>gets open. You know, you can run and crash into

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<v Speaker 1>it all you want. You know, you're not coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>The walls are solid concrete, they're not even blocked, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just slabs. The single unit, I mean, the whole fabricated

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And so there's a sense of am I secure?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I safe?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't feel secure. I'm outside my element right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know that's when all you guys go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And I gotta be by myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna have a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight, after seeing what will be his new home for

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 5>the next year, we all head over to the airbnb

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 5>that David rented right down the block. It's still about

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<v Speaker 5>a half hour too early to check in, so we

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 5>all gather on the back porch. Leo pulls his new

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<v Speaker 5>guitar out of the case to inspect it.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing up really quick.

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<v Speaker 5>For weeks, Leo had been anticipating the opportunity to say

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<v Speaker 5>a few words of gratitude and share some stories after

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<v Speaker 5>his release.

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<v Speaker 11>Can maybe the.

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<v Speaker 1>Super song.

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<v Speaker 5>We're a smaller group than what would have been back

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<v Speaker 5>at the hotel, but Leo still wanted to play something,

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<v Speaker 5>even if it was just for a few people he

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 5>was close to years ago. On one of our first

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 5>visits to Hardy, Leo told us about the days and

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<v Speaker 5>weeks after Michelle was killed, how he never really had

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<v Speaker 5>the chance to properly grieve her death and the loss

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<v Speaker 5>of the future they'd imagined together. Almost immediately, he was

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<v Speaker 5>a suspect having to fight for his own life, and

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<v Speaker 5>once he was locked up, he told us, showing grief, sadness, fear,

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 5>anything else than anger really could make him a target

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<v Speaker 5>and put him in danger. And anyway, he was young

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 5>and had already struggled to express his emotions in a

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 5>healthy way even before all that, but playing music helped

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't tell you what I was feeling, he told us.

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<v Speaker 5>But I could sing it. I could play it through

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<v Speaker 5>the guitar, and before his arrest in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 5>he'd written a song for Michelle Sunset Mickey.

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<v Speaker 4>He called it.

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<v Speaker 5>The title references the nickname he'd had for Michelle a

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<v Speaker 5>lifetime ago. The lyrics, he thinks now, are juvenile, but

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 5>they reflect who he was at the time, a young man,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 5>immature with his world turned upside down.

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<v Speaker 4>Sunset and nicky.

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<v Speaker 2>Where here are you now?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear your life and in my heart somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>I miss you in the morning and I love of.

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<v Speaker 1>You and night.

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<v Speaker 4>You are too young to.

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<v Speaker 18>Die and a justingbody, And now that you're going on,

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<v Speaker 18>my life hain't been the same.

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<v Speaker 15>I still hear your calling, I can calling out my

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 15>name alive and well her.

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<v Speaker 4>But where are you now?

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<v Speaker 2>You will always be either time after time.

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<v Speaker 15>But will soon be together with a love died last, broken,

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<v Speaker 15>hearts mended, and troubles put to the past. So think

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<v Speaker 15>of me always wherever you maybe, and look to the future,

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<v Speaker 15>because it's me you will see me.

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<v Speaker 16>Sunset, the sunset, making the sunset, sunset, Mager.

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<v Speaker 4>Sunset magging.

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<v Speaker 5>He told us that he'd sat at her graveside all

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<v Speaker 5>those years ago before he ever set foot in a

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<v Speaker 5>jail or prison, and played the song for her. Leo

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<v Speaker 5>never forgot the words. He said he'd tried playing it

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<v Speaker 5>a few times in prison, but it was too painful

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<v Speaker 5>and he wasn't sure he could make it all the

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<v Speaker 5>way through. We weren't sure we'd.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever hear it.

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<v Speaker 6>Leos said recently that he was feeling conflicted about parole.

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<v Speaker 6>He was worried it meant he was giving in settling

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<v Speaker 6>for parole when he deserves exoneration. I've had my own

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<v Speaker 6>moments of internal conflict about this, not about parole itself,

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 6>but about celebrating before the fight is over. But this moment,

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<v Speaker 6>seeing Leo openly grieving his wife thirty seven years later,

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<v Speaker 6>while comforted by a family who drove halfway across the

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 6>country to be here for him during this enormous life transition,

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<v Speaker 6>this moment made me feel the magnitude of what has changed.

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<v Speaker 6>To be able to kiss your wife and not be

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<v Speaker 6>watched by a guard, to be able to visit with

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 6>family and not have them subjected to a pat down,

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 6>to be able to call a friend and not be

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 6>announced by the facility you're locked up in to open

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<v Speaker 6>a drawer first thing in the morning and make a

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 6>choice about what you want to wear that day, to

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 6>play with your grandchildren, and not be confined to a

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 6>single patch of grass to be able to measure t

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on your own terms, not by the prison count,

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<v Speaker 6>and us it outside at the end of the evening,

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 6>watching the color of the sky change as the sun

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 6>vanishes beneath the horizon, allowing yourself to finally grieve after

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<v Speaker 6>thirty six years.

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<v Speaker 10>Finally, thank you, I love you, guys, Thank you, thanks

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<v Speaker 10>for sharing that with Yeah Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Bone Valley is a production of Lava for Good Podcasts

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 5>in association with Signal Company Number One. Our executive producers

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<v Speaker 5>are Jason Flom, Jeff Kempler, and Kevin Wurdis. Cara Krnhaber

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 5>is our senior producer. Brit Spangler is our sound designer,

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 5>Roxandra Guidy is our editor, and our researcher and producer

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 5>is Kelsey Decker. Sunset Mickey was written and performed by

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Leo Schofield. Our theme song, The One Who's Holding the Stars,

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 5>was written by Kevin Herrick and Leo Schofield. And performed

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<v Speaker 5>in this episode by Lee Bob in The Truth and

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Leo Schofield. Bone Valley Halfway Home was written by Kelsey

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<v Speaker 5>Decker and produced by me Gilbert King.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you hear my mindness?

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<v Speaker 2>Laughter hides my views? Sorrow's depths are endless.

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<v Speaker 17>In Miss Bally of DearS, I wanna see reation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know live a be ching out and desperation.

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<v Speaker 19>To the one neo's holding the stars, to the one

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<v Speaker 19>news holding the stars, to one whose holding the star.

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<v Speaker 15>Till you know who my brooming?

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<v Speaker 4>Will you touch me? Can you see my longing.

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<v Speaker 2>To be free from the dog?

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<v Speaker 17>I want to see your relation die long of no

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<v Speaker 17>reaching gal in desperation.

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<v Speaker 6>To the one brooms.

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<v Speaker 19>Holding the stars.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn one booms Holding the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Took one booms holding the star. Turn one loose holding

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<v Speaker 2>the star

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 4>Took one booms holding the star