1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday, I went out in the afternoon, going out for 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: my last you know time on the Red Field. It's 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: so contained and it's so secure, it has to be right. 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a high level security institution. You can't 5 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: look far without having to look to a fence, steel 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: bar reinforced glass door, tall twelve foot defences covered in 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: razor wire. There's something there that's going to remind you 8 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: that you're not free, you know, you are confined. My 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: mind was whirling, you know, thinking about all of what ifs, 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: the possibilities, what am I going to do? What's this 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: going to be like? Is it really going to happen? 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm going to tell you something. Right up to 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: the last minute, I was holding my breath waiting for 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: a hammer to drop. 15 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: You. 16 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: You, my minness, I have to hise my feel. 17 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: Saw rose deep. 18 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Sorry lists in this VALI teas. I want to see 19 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: RelA show great rish to the old day stuff. 20 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: So stop. 21 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 4: I know it just upsets everybody, but I saw this coming. 22 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I saw this coming. 23 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: Kelsey and I are sitting in a hotel room in 24 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: Miami along with Scott Cup. Just two weeks earlier, Leo 25 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: had been officially granted parole. Since then, I'd been in 26 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 5: near constant contact with Chrissy and Scott as they coordinated 27 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: plans for Leo's first day out of prison. Here's what 28 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: we were expecting. Leo was scheduled to walk out of 29 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: the gates at Everglade's Correctional Institution at nine AM, where 30 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: a crowd of family, friends and supporters would be gathered 31 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 5: to cheer him on and witness his first steps of 32 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: freedom after spending thirty six years behind bars. Leo's lawyers 33 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: from years past were also planning to attend, and so 34 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 5: was Jonathan Martin. He's the Florida senator who spoke at 35 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 5: Leo's parole hearing last year, and it has been in 36 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: discussions with Scott Cupp about Leo's prospects for exoneration. Chrissy 37 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: had planned a whole day for him. First, there would 38 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: be a luncheon at the hotel where Leo would say 39 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: some words and play some music. Then he'd get into 40 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: a car and drive with Chrissy to see his daughter, Ashley, 41 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 5: who had just given birth to his third grandson. Then 42 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: he'd head to the Halfway House in Tampa, where he'd 43 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 5: unpack and settle in and begin the adjustment to life 44 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: outside of prison. Kelsey and I flew into Miami and 45 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: headed over to the Mikasuki Hotel the night before the release. 46 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: This hotel is right on the outskirts of Miami and 47 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: less than a mile from where Leo would spend his 48 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: final night in prison. We were feeling pretty excited as 49 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 5: we headed to the Mikasuki Hotel, but just as we 50 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: were walking up to the front desk to check in, 51 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: I got a call from Chrissy. 52 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 6: I feel like I didn't really get the full story 53 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 6: of what she told you on that call. 54 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 7: Actually, she basically said, this is what I've heard. 55 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: I don't know anything else. I'm on my way over. 56 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 7: But they have moved the walkout time to six am, 57 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 7: number one, number two. Only three people are going Chrissy, Dave, 58 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 7: and Pam picking up Leo. 59 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: No media. 60 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 7: The other thing they said is, as far as we know, 61 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 7: no Mikasuki, you can't stop there, got to go straight 62 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 7: to the Noah's house. 63 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, we. 64 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 5: Don't know who issued the orders. Was it the prison 65 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: overwhelmed with the logistics of a high profile release, or 66 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: did this come from higher up in the Florida Department 67 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 5: of Corrections. There was no way to know, but after 68 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: that phone call from the prison, we did know that 69 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: all of Chrissy's plans for Leo's release were done. 70 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 8: For If they say get in the car and go 71 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 8: straight to Naas, he better get in the car and 72 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 8: goes straight to Naas because at this point, as upset 73 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 8: as everybody is, if that's what they're telling him to do, better, 74 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 8: he better do it. 75 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: Sitting in the hotel room with Scott Kupp, we tried 76 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 5: to figure out what to do next. We exchanged a 77 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: few texts with Seth Miller, Leo's lawyer from the Innocents 78 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 5: Project of Florida. Since he's been through this process many times. 79 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm curious, has he ever experienced this before? He 80 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 6: just told me he's done like thirty walkouts. 81 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is going on? 82 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 7: You know, Jonathan Martin was supposed to be here when 83 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 7: Leo got out, and now at six am, its kind 84 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 7: of hard for him to leave at three thirty to 85 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 7: get from Fort Myers or where the hell he's coming from. 86 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of. 87 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: Stuff that's The prison has set these last minute conditions 88 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: for Leo's release and it's final. It seems like just 89 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: one more reminder that walking through that gate might look 90 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: like freedom, but parole is still basically prison without bars. 91 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 4: We have records, and we'll see. 92 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Who is it. 93 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 6: Dave and Pam, Leo's family from Massachusetts, find their way 94 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 6: to Gilbert's hotel room, where everyone seems to be congregating. 95 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 6: It's nice to see them at least. This is a 96 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 6: long and complicated story, but since you haven't really heard 97 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 6: their voices before, here's some quick backstory to get you 98 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 6: caught up. The woman Leo called mom growing up is 99 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 6: really his stepmother. Cheryl married Leo's dad when Leo was 100 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 6: a toddler, and she raised him. It was never hidden 101 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 6: from Leo that his biological mother was out there, but 102 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 6: he had never met her until twenty eighteen. That's when Leo, 103 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 6: with Chrissy's health, finally reconnected with his birth mother, Sandy. 104 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: I can't imagine that it's already nerve racking to reach 105 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 6: out to a biological parent who you've been separated from 106 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: since you were three, But reaching out to a biological 107 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 6: parent and saying you're convicted of killing your wife and 108 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 6: you're innocent, I could see how that might not go 109 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 6: over well, But actually she quickly embraced Leo, and along 110 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 6: with Sandy, came Dave and Pam. Sandy referred to her husband, 111 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: Dave as the love of her life, and Pam is 112 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: the half sister Leo never knew existed. Sandy, Dave, and 113 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: Pam traveled down from Massachusetts to visit Leo frequently. They 114 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 6: had a couple years of family reunions in the Hardy 115 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 6: Correctional Visitation Park, and then Sandy passed away in April 116 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 6: of twenty twenty. Since then, Dave and Pam have truly 117 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 6: become Leo's family, so much so that Dave has legally 118 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: adopted Leo, his deceased wife's adult son, and Pam and 119 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 6: Leo are lovingly referred to as the twins because although 120 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 6: they've spent a lifetime apart, they have so much in common, 121 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 6: and their shared sense of humor means they are almost 122 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: always laughing in each other's presence. So that's Dave and Pam. 123 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 9: And Chrissy was saying that only the three of us 124 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 9: can pick him up and talk tomorrow morning and take 125 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 9: him away. They wait, way, what the hell the object 126 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 9: was to have something here? And then take him to 127 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 9: Fort Myers so he can see Ashley, his grandchildren. They 128 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 9: said to him, you can have a target on your 129 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 9: back because of the notoriety and everything out there. They're 130 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 9: going to be watching it. Be careful, absolutely everything by 131 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 9: the book, steady on. Whatever you need us to do 132 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 9: will do. So stay focused, get all of the rules 133 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 9: they forgive you. 134 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: That's our focus. 135 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 6: I'm glad you two are at least included with the. 136 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: But how sad is it that. 137 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm the one that can go. 138 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 10: It makes me feel bad just because that's me, and 139 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 10: I really want to see him walk. 140 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 7: Out of that door, like that's totally what I want 141 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 7: to do. 142 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 6: But we wanted to see him walk out too. It's 143 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 6: a moment we've been imagining for five years. But there's 144 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: no time to think about that now. Plans are still 145 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 6: shifting and it's getting late. There is one thing that 146 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 6: hasn't changed. The vehicle that Leo will ride in to 147 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 6: leave prison property Dave's black Tesla. 148 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 9: I wanted him to ride in my car. I didn't 149 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 9: want him to ride in some rental car from home mother. 150 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 9: I want him to ride in my car. My daughter's 151 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 9: written in my car, my grandkids are written in my 152 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 9: com My son in law's written my car and I 153 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 9: want my car. 154 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 6: We don't even know what Leo knows at this point 155 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 6: about the change in plans. The prison had already taken 156 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 6: away as tablets, so we can't get in touch with him. 157 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 6: All we could do was hope that he'd be able 158 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: to make a phone call. We meet up with Chrissy 159 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 6: in her hotel room and watch the sunset from her balcony. 160 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 6: Leo would take his first steps outside the barbed wire 161 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 6: gate before the sun would rise again. We set our 162 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 6: alarms for four am and try to get some sleep. 163 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: Quarter to three, quarter three, I was awake. I didn't 164 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: sleep two hours. 165 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to get up, now, you know 166 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, Cause I'm locked in this eight by 167 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: ten cell, my roommates sleeping, and uh, I said, now 168 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just lay here for a minute. 169 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: And I lay there and let. 170 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: My mind just burn out, you know, think about everything 171 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna do. And then like quarter after three, 172 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I said, man, get out of bed, just get. 173 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Out of bed. 174 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: And I slowly, you know, got ready, and uh, I 175 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: was already dressed in my blues, brushed my teeth. Four o'clock, 176 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: my door rolled open. I knew why it was open, 177 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: and the sage came and and uh. I came out 178 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: carry my little blue bag and all that had in 179 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: it was my Bible and the Koran and UH some journals. 180 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: And uh. 181 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: They brought me to the front and they put me 182 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: in a holding cell by myself at four o'clock in 183 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the morning. And I knew I was gonna be sitting 184 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: there a while because I'm not leaving till six. My 185 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: wife was giving permission to bring my clothes no earlier 186 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: than five forty five, So now I'm gonna be sitting 187 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: there and just sitting there from four to five forty five. 188 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: I had my Bible with me, so that was good. 189 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: And I sat in this little cell, locked in a cage, 190 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: and just prayed and waited. 191 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 11: All right, I'm about to head downstairs. It's five point 192 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 11: fifteen in the morning, and today is the day Leo's 193 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 11: gonna walk out of prison. We're not gonna be able 194 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 11: to see it, but it's still gonna happen, and that's 195 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 11: the good thing. 196 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: We head outside. It's been raining since we got up. 197 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 6: For Leo's gonna be released in the dark and in 198 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 6: the rain. 199 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: We see Chrissy with Dave and Pam packing up the 200 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: car with all the food that was supposed to be 201 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: spread out in a buffet for guests. She's also packed 202 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: a bag with clothes for Leo to change into since 203 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: he'll have to leave his prison blues behind. 204 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 12: So we're on away. 205 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna go get him. 206 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I can't wait. 207 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 5: Once Chrissy, Dave, and Pam load up and take off, 208 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: we jump in the car and are right behind them. 209 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: That's them. 210 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 13: We're there right there. 211 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh my gosh, don't. 212 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: Get like I'm The drive lasts all of two minutes. 213 00:13:59,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 9: We want. 214 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: Dave, Pam and Chrissy drive onto prison grounds in the 215 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: Tesla and I pull over and flip the hazards on. 216 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 12: So we turn into the prison property and get around 217 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 12: a curve and there's like three or four cars with 218 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 12: their lights on and a barricade. So they all come 219 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 12: running to these officers and they are on walkie talkies 220 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 12: and they come to the door and they say, we 221 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 12: roll down the window and they take our driver's license 222 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 12: and check our names, and then they ask for his clothes. 223 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 12: And I had him in a bag next to me, 224 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 12: so we open the window and give him the clothes, 225 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 12: and I hear on the walkie talkie Majors taking the clothes, 226 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 12: taking the clothes, and then comes back to us and 227 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 12: is following the major. 228 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: We're parked on the side of the road across from 229 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: the prison entrance. The shoulder isn't wide enough to keep 230 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: us out of the lane while cars fly past us. 231 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 14: I don't know if there's a fucking spot. 232 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 11: I mean used to have like three feet over there. God, 233 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 11: it's really just. 234 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 6: Fully dark out. 235 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 11: I mean, like, how much are we into the lane? 236 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: A little bit? So fucking depressing like this, you. 237 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 11: Can't believe they're making it do it this way? What 238 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 11: did the headlights of a tesla look like? 239 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 240 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: The night before, we all decided that even if we 241 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: couldn't witness those first steps of freedom, we still wanted 242 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: to be as close as we could to the moment. 243 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: More cars filled with friends and family members line up 244 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: behind us. We're all peering through the dark waiting for 245 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: the outline of the black tesla to appear. 246 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: And time went by like that, and before I knew it, 247 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: and they bought the clothes to me. I changed out 248 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: of everything, and. 249 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 12: Then we go to another checkpoint and there's another guard gate, 250 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 12: and officers come and they check our driver's license, they 251 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 12: check the trunk, and then they say go to the 252 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 12: front pavilion where we normally go for a visit. 253 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: No, I was able to go out the gate. No 254 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: inmates for any reason walk to that gate because that's 255 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: the front gate. 256 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: And so went through there and then they took me 257 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: directly out. 258 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 12: So the car stops and I jump out and I 259 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 12: run up to this pavilion area. It's like a covered 260 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 12: area and there's two wardens and suits and they're standing 261 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 12: there and I was kind of We're just kind of 262 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 12: chit chatting, casual conversation, you know, like just trying to 263 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 12: be polite, and it's still raining, and the intensity is 264 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 12: just building for me, building, building building. 265 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, guys, so they're gonna let me go 266 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: open front gate. And I went through it. It was incredible. 267 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, And next thing I know, in the rain, in 269 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 12: the dark, the wardens turned around and there he was, 270 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 12: and I saw him in his clothes and his little 271 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 12: blue bag, and he just walked really fast to me 272 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 12: and we just like like the intensity of that hug 273 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 12: was magical, like we did it, We did it, we 274 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 12: did it. 275 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: So Chrissy was like hugging and crying, and the hugging 276 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: was a great hug and all I'm like, okay, let's go. 277 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: Can we hug somewhere else please? You know what I mean? 278 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: These people got guns and I want to go, and 279 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, you know what's going fee. 280 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: I want to change my mind. You know, I'm in 281 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: jeans now, we're not going back to those. 282 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: As tighter as these are than those I was wearing. 283 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm not putting those back on, never again. And then 284 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: the door closes and. 285 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: It was just quiet, just quiet. Prisons are utterly noisy places. 286 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 4: They echo people. 287 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: Yelling and screaming, laughing, whatever, and it's constant noise, you know. 288 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: And it's all day, every day. 289 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: And I've got in that car and uh, you know, 290 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: it's very very quiet. And then started moving and it 291 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: was still quiet, like the car doesn't make any noise. 292 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound like anything. And he used 293 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: to have like some guy running. I was waiting for him. 294 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: We just started moving. 295 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell, Yeah. 296 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: It comes head lighters. 297 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 14: It's it's a fan with blinkers on. M m no, 298 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 14: it's that does look like a tesla, though. 299 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh I think that's them? 300 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 11: Is that them? 301 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 5: A car comes out and takes a left. We're not 302 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: sure it's them. It's so dark out. I try to 303 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: follow them on no, no, no, I gotta two traffic first. 304 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 6: Decline. But what are you doing? 305 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 4: Okay? 306 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: I mean I hope I was them. It looks like 307 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 6: a toss summer. 308 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 5: Oh, by what you said, I can't imagine what Leo's thinking. 309 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: If that is him up ahead. My heart is pounding 310 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 5: trying to catch up. Something about this moment feels more 311 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 5: like an escape than a walk out. I just want 312 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: to get as far away from this prison as fast 313 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 5: as possible. 314 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: I mean, let me text proceed. I don't know if 315 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 6: she's gonna fly. 316 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 317 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: And so I'm driving down the road a little bit, 318 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: and I said, I think there's some people following us, 319 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: and that. 320 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 5: Looks like a Massachusetts plight dinners. 321 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: Get closer because I'm power they're gonna follow us all 322 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: the way to the Tampa Okay. 323 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 6: Kursy said, yes, okay, Oh my god, we're gonna car 324 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: behind Leo. 325 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: And the rain's letting up a little. And when she 326 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: told me it was was you, guys. I was like, okay, okay, 327 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: that that made me feel a lot better. 328 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: Lea must be freaked out in that car. It's like, 329 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: all it is is a big computer screen. 330 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: There's no but you know, like. 331 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 6: Knobs or I mean, I'm freaked out by it. So 332 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 6: I spend thirty six years in persons. 333 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 5: I can't believe he's up there. We head west as 334 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 5: the sun rises behind us. We drive out of the rain. 335 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: As our little caravan cuts across the Tammiami Trail led 336 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: by the black Tesla with Leo inside. 337 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 12: The rain stopped and the day brightened as we were driving, 338 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 12: and the sun came out and the rains just stopped 339 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 12: and we started to breathe. So it was the most 340 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 12: magical moment of my life. 341 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 5: About twenty miles down the road, the Tesla's left turn 342 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: signal starts blinking in front of us. Chrissy says she 343 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: needs to pull over for a bathroom stop, and we 344 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: all stopped too, and everyone gets out. The back door 345 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: of the tesla swings open, and suddenly there's Leo standing 346 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: in street clothes in a parking lot miles from prison. 347 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: No handcuffs, no barbed wire, no guards in sight. It 348 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 5: may not be the walkout from the main gate that 349 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: everyone was imagining, but he's here. 350 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 10: He's out. 351 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Hi mm hmm, hey buddy, mm hmm. 352 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: H. 353 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Here come the boys. 354 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 15: Hey, hey, hi, hey buddy, Hey buddy. 355 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 10: Come here, buddy, Hollo you buddy, don't. 356 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: You made it? 357 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 6: I want to meet the new one. 358 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, you got your little Holly Davidson jacket on. 359 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah that's nice. 360 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 4: Oh. 361 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 5: Leo's family and friends gather around him, hugging and taking photos. 362 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: But it's a quick stop. Leo was anxious to get 363 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 5: back on the road and get to Tampa. 364 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 4: Buddy, okay, all right, yeah, you know I'm still still 365 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: fearing us as hell. 366 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 367 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure what I feel, to be honest, 368 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: I just I think once you get there and get 369 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: settled exactly, thinks it'd be better. 370 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: Right now, back on the road, we continue to follow 371 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: Leo to Noah's house, where he's required to check in. 372 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: By the end of the day. 373 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm still kind of in shock that I'm in this car. 374 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: Test me. 375 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking it's count time right now. 376 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 13: That's pretty though, isn't it. 377 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: You have no idea, you know, it's you know, it's crazy. 378 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: And I imagined this for a long time, many years. 379 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: I thought about this is being able to look out 380 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: at the horizon and be able to see far without 381 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: having to look through fence or or raise a wire 382 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: or you know. 383 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: Anything like that. That's just amazing. 384 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: There was a time where we were driving across a bridge. 385 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 4: The water has sew me on the boat. 386 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 15: Wow, that is crazy how far you can see. 387 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: Just to be able to see that far, that far 388 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: and not have to look through anything, it was absolutely 389 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary that it was amazing and and it made my 390 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: heart race, keep waiting to wake up from a dream 391 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: that would not be real, that would really suck. 392 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: The drive from the prison to the halfway house is 393 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 6: a little over four hours. Inside our car, we spend 394 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 6: time listening to podcasts, of course, but within the tesla, 395 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 6: Leo was learning how to work his first smartphone. 396 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 13: And then there's should be a gallery for your pictures. 397 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 12: So Lee had bottom a phone, and before he got 398 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 12: the phone, before he got out of prison, he's like, 399 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 12: I don't I don't know why you people are on 400 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 12: the phone all the time, and I'm just gonna have 401 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 12: a phone attached to the wall like I always did. 402 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 12: And I'm like, no, no, no, You're gonna have a phone 403 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 12: and it has everything in it. We had pre programmed 404 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 12: his phone numbers and some apps. 405 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 13: There's your camera, okay. 406 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 12: So when I gave it to him, he was it 407 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 12: was definitely foreign to him, and so it was super 408 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 12: fun just to show them know what to do. 409 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: What a snapchat? 410 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 13: It's an dumbass social you can you can send little 411 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 13: snaps picture or a little text and then it goes 412 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 13: to the other person and then it's erased after thirty. 413 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: Somethings or something. 414 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 12: I told him, I said, you use that phone for everything. 415 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 12: I said, when you want to go to the gym, 416 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 12: you gotta beep, when you go to buy stuff, you 417 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 12: beep on here. 418 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: Can you put Google Earth on it? There? I love that. 419 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 6: It probably goes without saying, but a lot has changed 420 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: in those thirty six years Leo spent locked up. 421 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 12: I was looking at the pictures we took and I'm like, 423 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 12: we're old compared to well, compared to I. 424 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: Can't see what I look old. 425 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 13: I look gold. 426 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: And then the other thing, this is crazy. We don't 427 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: have mirrors in the prison. I don't have mirrors. 428 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: We have these. 429 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Little pieces of shiny plastic that you can buy out 430 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: of the canteen if you want them. They gotta They 431 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: got a stainless steel thing that's bolted to the to 432 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: the concrete. 433 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: But I mean it's as reflective as a hubcap. Mm 434 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Literally, I mean you. 435 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: Might see a shadow of yourself in it. You're not 436 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: gonna shave it. And so they sell these little shiny 437 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: plastic things that have you know, some type of uh 438 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: adhesive silver thing that and it's better than the hub 439 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: cap y, but it still doesn't show a true reflection. 440 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: And so when you see yourself in the mirror after 441 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: thirty six years, it's shocking. It's literally shocking because the 442 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: m the little plastic thing is softens you know, lines 443 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: and you know, blemishes and all that. You don't really 444 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: see it in that cause it's not true reflection. And 445 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: so you see how I look, And I said, oh damn, 446 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I god old. Remember what I told you when we 447 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: first met. 448 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: It was a long road. 449 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't even know be this long. You 450 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: don't expect justice to be this slow, but we didn't 451 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: even know half of what that was actually going on. 452 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, we had to do the time to find the truth. 453 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 14: I guess. 454 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: One thing we can definitely say is and has been meaningful. 455 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: You know. 456 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm kind of vine absorbing that, the fact that it 457 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: it's over for me, you know, I'm. 458 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: At least that part of it. 459 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: H m hmm. 460 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: And then the experience. We stopped at the bird King. 461 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: I need to use the bathroom. 462 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: Are we going in? 463 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 464 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 465 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: M this is very very weird. 466 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: Do I look like a prisoner? 467 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't love for sure? 468 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: Should we get one of those hats? 469 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 7: Lot of time? 470 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 10: No, thank you? 471 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's will be in here. 472 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 15: So this is the. 473 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 16: Venue, and you choose what you. 474 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 11: Would like and then you go up there. 475 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: Let me just get a whap on the cheese. I 476 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: look obvious for sure. 477 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 14: That was a little fun. 478 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm freaking scared to death here. 479 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: He had a chicken sandwich and she had some other 480 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: little thing of wrap. And the girl said thirty something 481 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: dollars and exchange. I'm like, Holy Mother of God, is 482 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: it to come with a back massage or something? 483 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: That's crazy? Thirty thirty something dollars? I said, a whopper, whopper, 484 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: one whopper with cheese. That's it, just cheese. What else 485 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: is on there gold thirty something dollars. That's crazy, unbelievable. 486 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 5: By early afternoon, we pull up behind the tesla at 487 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: Noah's Community Outreach, the Halfway House, where Leah will spend 488 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: the next year. Right, Yeah, Leah and Pam walk into 489 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: the office when he needs to check. 490 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: In, I just walk in. Yes, I'm not used to this. 491 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 11: Okay. 492 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: Hey, hey man, I am so scared. I don't even 493 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: know what to do. 494 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 10: Don't be scared. 495 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: Don't be scared. 496 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 10: I'm a sister. I'm just to be scared. 497 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 8: Uh huh. 498 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 17: We'll be here tomorrow. 499 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 13: Yeah, don't be scared. 500 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 11: You did the right place. 501 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 5: Come on, it's okay, it's okay, come on. 502 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 10: You. 503 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am. 504 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 15: That's all that matters right now, and we're here to 505 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 15: help you. 506 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. 507 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: Here, it's the Parker Sister. 508 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: Okay, my name is Leo Schofield. Is my sister, Pamela. 509 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 14: But you're going to the new house. 510 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: Is good? 511 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: Leo shown to the house, one that's newly built where 512 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 5: a bed has been reserved for him. 513 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 13: I love let me tell you the new house off 514 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 13: the chain. 515 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 18: I love it. 516 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 15: But we have eight ministry houses and we just finished 517 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 15: building that one. 518 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 6: I mean it's brand okay. 519 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 5: But first he stopped by some familiar faces. 520 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: There's Greg right there. 521 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: There's my buddy Greg. You know all these guys. 522 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: There's Jimmy right here. 523 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 10: What's happening? My sister family, what's happening right? 524 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 5: Most of the guys here are also recent graduates of 525 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 5: the Everglade c I Corrections Transition Program. Leo spent a 526 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: total of ten months there, and in that time, thirty 527 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 5: nine men were released on parole. Today, with Leo walking out, 528 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: he's the fortieth. 529 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: Ye that's right. 530 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: Leo moves his stuff into his new home, which is clean, 531 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 5: freshly painted, and sparse. 532 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: All this stuff pop. 533 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 5: Now that Leo is here and checked in, he's finally 534 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: able to breathe, and he begins to reflect on his 535 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: new surroundings and new existence. 536 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: No, I think I was out of my element until 537 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: we got here. You know I needed to get here. 538 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: What is strange to me? 539 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 5: Leo spins around in his seat to knock on the 540 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: dry wall behind him. 541 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: I could probably run through that with no problem, for real. 542 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I sign it. 543 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: See, I've been in a concrete and steel block, right, 544 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: solid unit for thirty six years, and you're not getting 545 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: through that, you know what I mean. 546 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 4: You feel it, you can just. 547 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: The sound of your voice inside something like that, the 548 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: way it's so enclosed and encased. You know, inside those cells, 549 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: there's a sense of security. You know, you have a 550 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: sense of safety in that as compared to this, because 551 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: if I can break. 552 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: Through it, who can break in it? 553 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: You know? And nobody's breaking in money see one, two 554 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: or one cell. You're not coming through that door. If 555 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: the door is locked, you're not coming through unless it 556 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: gets open. You know, you can run and crash into 557 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: it all you want. You know, you're not coming in. 558 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: The walls are solid concrete, they're not even blocked, they're 559 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: just slabs. The single unit, I mean, the whole fabricated 560 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: that way. And so there's a sense of am I secure? 561 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Am I safe? 562 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 10: You know? 563 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: So I don't feel secure. I'm outside my element right now, 564 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: and so you know that's when all you guys go, 565 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I gotta be by myself. 566 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna have a lot of time. 567 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: Tonight, after seeing what will be his new home for 568 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 5: the next year, we all head over to the airbnb 569 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 5: that David rented right down the block. It's still about 570 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 5: a half hour too early to check in, so we 571 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: all gather on the back porch. Leo pulls his new 572 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 5: guitar out of the case to inspect it. 573 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 2: This thing up really quick. 574 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 5: For weeks, Leo had been anticipating the opportunity to say 575 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 5: a few words of gratitude and share some stories after 576 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: his release. 577 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 11: Can maybe the. 578 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: Super song. 579 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: We're a smaller group than what would have been back 580 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 5: at the hotel, but Leo still wanted to play something, 581 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 5: even if it was just for a few people he 582 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: was close to years ago. On one of our first 583 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 5: visits to Hardy, Leo told us about the days and 584 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 5: weeks after Michelle was killed, how he never really had 585 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 5: the chance to properly grieve her death and the loss 586 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 5: of the future they'd imagined together. Almost immediately, he was 587 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 5: a suspect having to fight for his own life, and 588 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 5: once he was locked up, he told us, showing grief, sadness, fear, 589 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: anything else than anger really could make him a target 590 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 5: and put him in danger. And anyway, he was young 591 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 5: and had already struggled to express his emotions in a 592 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: healthy way even before all that, but playing music helped 593 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you what I was feeling, he told us. 594 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 5: But I could sing it. I could play it through 595 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 5: the guitar, and before his arrest in nineteen eighty eight, 596 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 5: he'd written a song for Michelle Sunset Mickey. 597 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 4: He called it. 598 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: The title references the nickname he'd had for Michelle a 599 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 5: lifetime ago. The lyrics, he thinks now, are juvenile, but 600 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 5: they reflect who he was at the time, a young man, 601 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: immature with his world turned upside down. 602 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: Sunset and nicky. 603 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: Where here are you now? 604 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: I can hear your life and in my heart somehow. 605 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: I miss you in the morning and I love of. 606 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: You and night. 607 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 4: You are too young to. 608 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 18: Die and a justingbody, And now that you're going on, 609 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 18: my life hain't been the same. 610 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 15: I still hear your calling, I can calling out my 611 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 15: name alive and well her. 612 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: But where are you now? 613 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: You will always be either time after time. 614 00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 15: But will soon be together with a love died last, broken, 615 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 15: hearts mended, and troubles put to the past. So think 616 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 15: of me always wherever you maybe, and look to the future, 617 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 15: because it's me you will see me. 618 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 16: Sunset, the sunset, making the sunset, sunset, Mager. 619 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: Sunset magging. 620 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 5: He told us that he'd sat at her graveside all 621 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 5: those years ago before he ever set foot in a 622 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: jail or prison, and played the song for her. Leo 623 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 5: never forgot the words. He said he'd tried playing it 624 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 5: a few times in prison, but it was too painful 625 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 5: and he wasn't sure he could make it all the 626 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 5: way through. We weren't sure we'd. 627 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 4: Ever hear it. 628 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 6: Leos said recently that he was feeling conflicted about parole. 629 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 6: He was worried it meant he was giving in settling 630 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 6: for parole when he deserves exoneration. I've had my own 631 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 6: moments of internal conflict about this, not about parole itself, 632 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 6: but about celebrating before the fight is over. But this moment, 633 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 6: seeing Leo openly grieving his wife thirty seven years later, 634 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 6: while comforted by a family who drove halfway across the 635 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 6: country to be here for him during this enormous life transition, 636 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 6: this moment made me feel the magnitude of what has changed. 637 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 6: To be able to kiss your wife and not be 638 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 6: watched by a guard, to be able to visit with 639 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 6: family and not have them subjected to a pat down, 640 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 6: to be able to call a friend and not be 641 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 6: announced by the facility you're locked up in to open 642 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 6: a drawer first thing in the morning and make a 643 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 6: choice about what you want to wear that day, to 644 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 6: play with your grandchildren, and not be confined to a 645 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 6: single patch of grass to be able to measure t 646 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 6: I'm on your own terms, not by the prison count, 647 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 6: and us it outside at the end of the evening, 648 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 6: watching the color of the sky change as the sun 649 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 6: vanishes beneath the horizon, allowing yourself to finally grieve after 650 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 6: thirty six years. 651 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 10: Finally, thank you, I love you, guys, Thank you, thanks 652 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 10: for sharing that with Yeah Yeah. 653 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 5: Bone Valley is a production of Lava for Good Podcasts 654 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 5: in association with Signal Company Number One. Our executive producers 655 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 5: are Jason Flom, Jeff Kempler, and Kevin Wurdis. Cara Krnhaber 656 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 5: is our senior producer. Brit Spangler is our sound designer, 657 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 5: Roxandra Guidy is our editor, and our researcher and producer 658 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 5: is Kelsey Decker. Sunset Mickey was written and performed by 659 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 5: Leo Schofield. Our theme song, The One Who's Holding the Stars, 660 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 5: was written by Kevin Herrick and Leo Schofield. And performed 661 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 5: in this episode by Lee Bob in The Truth and 662 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 5: Leo Schofield. Bone Valley Halfway Home was written by Kelsey 663 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 5: Decker and produced by me Gilbert King. 664 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 10: Do you hear my mindness? 665 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: Laughter hides my views? Sorrow's depths are endless. 666 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 17: In Miss Bally of DearS, I wanna see reation. 667 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: I want to know live a be ching out and desperation. 668 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 19: To the one neo's holding the stars, to the one 669 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 19: news holding the stars, to one whose holding the star. 670 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 15: Till you know who my brooming? 671 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 4: Will you touch me? Can you see my longing. 672 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: To be free from the dog? 673 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 17: I want to see your relation die long of no 674 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 17: reaching gal in desperation. 675 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 6: To the one brooms. 676 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 19: Holding the stars. 677 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 4: Turn one booms Holding the star. 678 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: Took one booms holding the star. Turn one loose holding 679 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: the star 680 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 4: Took one booms holding the star