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This is John and mc gillham 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: and I'm back in for Sean Hannity. Who is in 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: the air, I believe, I don't know. Maybe he's in 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: the air. Maybe he's sleeping. I don't know, maybe he's 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: sleeping in the air. After being in Vietnam, Wow, what 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: a trip they had. I don't think Linda left the 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: hotel room once the entire time they were there. Perhaps 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: she got some time out yesterday, but it was a trip, 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: a fast trip, I tell you. For those people that 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: were listening to this show, I mean, I've been listening 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: to Sean for years, over twenty years, and it seemed 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: like to me like they were having more fun. I 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: asked Linda this, I said, it seemed like you're having 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: more fun than ever. But you know one thing, when 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I was in seal training, I'll tell you people get 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: slap happy when they're in stressful situations, or they're not 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: getting any sleep, or in their case, when it's completely 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: twisted and turned around where you think it's daylight but 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the country that you're in is telling you know it's midnight. 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: So I think maybe they were a little bit slap happy. 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: But either they had a great trip. I think Sean 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: really stood out in the way that he questioned the 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: president and talked about with the president. He almost went 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: back into reporter mode or I don't know if he's 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: ever actually been a correspondent, but he was almost like 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a correspondent while he was there, which I thought was 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: pretty cool. But a lot, you know, a lot came 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: out of that summit that people aren't talking about. And 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: of course they're not talking about it. So when I 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: try to do, you know, whenever I get on the 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: radio and get my opportunity to host, I always like 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: to dig in a little bit into the mindset of 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes. And now I don't 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: mean behind the scenes with President Trump. President. This is 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: what's so funny about that I see people constant I'm 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: not gonna mention any names, because there's a lot of 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote conservatives and this is I'm gonna explain this 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: in a minute why I don't like the term conservative 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: and liberal. We have to go by those terms, that's 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: what people give us. But we see so many commentators 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: and politicians who say that they're conservative. But as soon 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: as this president does something or makes a maneuver. They 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: are so quick to pound him into the ground because 63 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: they are establishment. They're not conservative or liberal. They may 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: use the terms conservative to get votes or conservative to 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: you to give themselves some more power or for their constituents, 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: but the reality of folks, these people are not true 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: effective thinkers. That's what I like to think of myself. 68 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Scott e Linger is going to be on and just 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: a little bit former CIA station chief, and we were 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday prepping for this show about how 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: they're just are very few critical thinkers. There's very few 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: people in government and especially in the media that really 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: are looking for effective solutions. That's why they just jump 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: on the president anytime they get a chance, because they're 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: not concerned with solutions. They're not concerned with fixing things. 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: They're concerned with power and politics. That's it, power maneuvering, 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: squashing him. And they're socialist, which I've been screaming for 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: a long time. There's socialists slash commonist slash globalist agenda, 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: which I really want you to pay attention to that 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: because ultimately that is something that is behind the scenes. 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist anymore to 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: say that there's no there's no conspiracy theory to the 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: fact that socialism and globalism are all tied in together, 84 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: because it's true and there's proof of it. There's proof 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: of it, not just and and you know, I have 86 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: good good buddy, used to be on the show quite 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: a bit, Rick Hunger. He's a you know, he's a liberal. 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: I love the guy. He's also very rich, and he's 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: he loves globalism because he feels it that true globalism 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: is an economic movement, not an ideal logical movement. But 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: that's where we disagree. I believe ultimately that the economics 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: are being used to further an ideological movement, and there's 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: proof of that. Now, those that you don't know me, 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I hope you do. I've hosted for Sean quite a bit. 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: I have been a Navy seal and Federal Air Marshall 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: and FBI special agent, and I've been traveling all over 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the country. I got out of the FBI in twenty thirteen. 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: I had a conversation last night actually with an FBI 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: agent and we were talking about how this individual's pretty 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: close to retirement and we're talking about how when we 101 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: first got in we have ever thought that there would 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: be a deep state, just it wasn't even talked about. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: We didn't know anything, There was no concept to that. 104 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Even though I have a degree in political science, I 105 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: never heard anything about a deep state. When I was 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: studying politics. I learned more from my degree in psychology 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: about way politics worked, and I did actually from political 108 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: science and going back, all the stuff that I was taught, 109 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: not all of it, but a lot of it was 110 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: very leftist. I had professors telling me that the Constitution 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: is a living, breathing entity, but it's not. It's a 112 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: piece of paper that sets down finally in history that 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: these are the rights that all men and women have 114 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: been given by their creator. But that's not the way 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the left works. They try to manipulate this stuff. So 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with an FBI agent friend 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: of him. He's close to retirement, and we just couldn't 118 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: we were thinking about this. We're like, well, meant, we 119 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: just never would have thought that this would be the case. 120 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Somebody like Komy would come out and do the things 121 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: that he'd do that Peter struck that McCabe. I did 122 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: have my doubts when I was in about Mueller because Muller, 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: and I think this went right under the radar. Muller 124 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: took the premier law enforcement agency in the world, and 125 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: it was at one time, and he turned it into 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: an intelligence gathering and collection agency that buying large benefits 127 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Congress and politics and the president, not necessarily this president, evidently, 128 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: but it does not do the law enforcement fighting that 129 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: it was meant to do when it was set up 130 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: to begin with. And when you look at that, when 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: you look at how Mueller changed things, and remember all 132 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: these people are part of the Senior Executive Service the SSRs. 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Some of them aren't officially SCSRS. Senior Executive Service members 134 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: can be appointed like Phil mud for instance. He ever 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: seen that whinco on CNN. He is somebody who rose 136 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to in ten years, was somehow on a stellar rise 137 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: in the CIA, as I believe, an analysts, and was 138 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: advising in the White House after ten years, not a 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: thirty year person. They took a ten year person, put 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: him in the White House and then magically was appointed 141 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: as a Deputy director in the FBI in the counter 142 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Terrorism Division. Not an operator, not somebody that tells you 143 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: how these people think, doesn't know and never participated in 144 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: an operation, yet he was put over as a deputy director. 145 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: That's the way these scsers work. Once they make a 146 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: political maneuver or they show somebody that they're loyal and 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: that they'll scratch the back boom, they get put over there. 148 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: And that's the way that works. That's what happens, and 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: they start doing their bidding. And so we were thinking 150 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: about this last night and how a lot of people 151 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: that are in government just don't see this. They don't 152 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: see the fact that these things are going on because 153 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: your job is to be dedicated to service and protecting 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: the country. You've sworn an oath to support and defend 155 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the constitution against all enemies foreign in domestic, and the 156 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: last thing you would ever think is that people in 157 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: your government are the enemy. And we all say that, 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, the media is this or the media is 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: that media is an enemy of the state. There's no 160 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: doubt about that. Not everybody in the media, but the 161 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: mainstream media, and I will say the leftist media and 162 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: buy and large. The only thing that really separates the 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: leftist media from or let's not even call it leftist media, 164 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: it's called establishment media. What separates them from non establishment 165 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: journalism is the ability of social media for people to 166 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: go out and actually write what they see and study 167 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the truth and research the truth and put this stuff 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: out there. You almost cannot depend on media. When you 169 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: turn the television or the radio one, you just almost 170 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: cannot depend on it. There's few voices, and most of 171 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: them and this is not a bias. This is a truth. 172 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Because I sit back and look at this from a 173 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: neutral standpoint, I believe it or not. There's very few people, 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: and most of them are on conservative talk radio or 175 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: some of the few conservative TV stations. Because they're not 176 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: they're not held to the leftist standard and that and listen, 177 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: they can spin it into a conservative or a conservative 178 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: establishment manner, but the fact is they're not beholding to 179 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: the left, some of them, and so automatically what they 180 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: say is more truthful. Now, there's gonna be people that 181 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: are going to argue with me about that from the left. 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Trump haters will argue with me about that, just like 183 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: atheists will argue with you about whether or not God 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: is real. Let me just tell you something real quick 185 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: about that, folks. This is funny. I had a conversation 186 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: with an atheist a while back, and remember this for yourself. Okay, 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: this atheist was it was on Christmas, no doubt, would 188 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: not relent about whether or not God was real or 189 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: Jesus died and Christmas and this and that, And I said, listen, 190 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this. If I hold 191 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: you underwater, what do you fight for? What is it 192 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: that you fight me for? Is it food? No? Now? 193 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Is it new clothes? No? It's air? Why? Because instinctually 194 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: your body is telling you I need air to survive. Now, 195 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: if I march you in the desert and you have 196 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: plenty of food and plenty of air, and I keep 197 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: marching you through the hot desert, what does your body 198 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: intentionally tell you it needs? It says I need water 199 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: or I'm going to die. I need water to survive. Now, 200 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: let's take it a step further. If I starve you, 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I give you water and I give you air, but 202 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't give you any food eventually, And I've been there. 203 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: I went through ranger school as an exchange in the army. 204 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: And when they don't feed us at all, hardly for 205 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: sixty two days, what do you start? What does your 206 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: body start craving and fighting for food instinctually? Why? Because 207 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: your body and your mind and your soul instinctually know 208 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: what it takes to keep you living. But here's the 209 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: interesting thing. I told this atheist, have you I asked him, 210 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: I say, you ever seen anybody die? They said no? 211 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: Said how old are you? By the way, they're twenty one? 212 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Said how did you become so wise at twenty one, 213 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: never having done anything, never seen anybody die? Said, let 214 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: me tell you what happens when somebody dies, because I've 215 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: been there. They do not call out for science. They 216 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: don't call out for typically unless they're you know, unless 217 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: they're suffocating in the very end. They don't call out 218 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: for food, water, and air. They call out for God. 219 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: And why is that? Because their soul and their body 220 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: knows if they are dying, that's who they need. That's 221 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: how you defeat an atheist. They may not believe you, 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: but their biggest argument is that they're trying to prove 223 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: to themselves something that they're instinctually believed, that they believe inside, 224 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: that they know inside. And they argue against that. Now, 225 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: how does that go with everything I'm talking about today? Well, 226 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: when somebody is so ingrained and become a robot to 227 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: the left, or even a robot to the far far right. 228 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: They will refuse to see reality. They will fight it, 229 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: and they will believe anybody that tells them anything that's 230 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: in their camp. And that's the way. If that's who 231 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: you are and you're not willing to take a step 232 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: back and look at reality, you too, in the end, 233 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: will be confused. When Donald Trump does things that are good, 234 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: you just won't believe it. You'll say, oh, that's just 235 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: a it's just a freak accident. But it's not. When 236 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: good results and good politicians are good leaders. Very few 237 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: good politicians do the right thing because it's effective. You'll 238 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: be puzzled because you weren't prepared for that outcome because 239 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you refuse to look at reality. So why don't we 240 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll come back. I'm going to continue 241 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: to discuss this for the rest of the hour. I'll 242 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: eventually get to your calls. I'd love to know what 243 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: you guys think about this. Listen. I wrote a book 244 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: called Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attacks Survival. 245 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I've plugged it many many times on the show. It's 246 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: got work books that are coming out in April and 247 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: in July that are going to help you look at 248 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: your life from the attacker's point of view. Start with 249 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness. You can get 250 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: on Amazon and Barnes and Noble anywhere books are sold. 251 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Start your awareness process today. We'll be right back. 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This is Johnathan geling 269 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: back in from my good buddy Sean Hannity on the 270 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Radio show. Listen, let's go. I want to 271 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: take a call real quick. Let's go to John and 272 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: Santa Fe. I think John agrees with me on this. 273 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Go ahead, John, I agree with you thoroughly. And what 274 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: I want to do is I want to stop having 275 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the left define our terminologies. And what I mean is 276 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: even the term socialist and the term capitalist are basically 277 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: from from Carl Marx. I don't want to use those 278 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: terms anymore because if you think about it, in socialism, 279 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: who benefits is the elite. So I think we want 280 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: to call that what it is, which is elitism, right. 281 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: And in capitalists, that kind of infers that you you 282 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: have to have capital or you're a worship capital. And 283 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I do neither. I have and don't have capital. What 284 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I am as I'm a free market person, right, So 285 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I like to I cringe anytime somebody says capitalists because 286 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe in that either. That's that's the that 287 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: you just nailed the biggest problem is that we are. 288 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: It's it's the same as when you're born into the world. 289 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, and by the time you're between zero and five, 290 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: you're a genius. And by the time you get to five, 291 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: you've been indoctrinated into whatever your parents know, really, and 292 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: then when you go to school, you're indoctrinated with whatever 293 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: they know. And most of them are really very liberal. 294 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: We know that, and so by the time you people 295 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: become adult, they only know what they've been told. They 296 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: they're not free thinkers. And that's that's the hard part 297 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: about this. Wouldn't you say, oh absolutely, and I love 298 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: your story about drowning somebody you're starving them or putting 299 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: them in the desert. That's agree. I'm gonna have to 300 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: use that myself and use it, use it because because 301 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: that's the truth people they try to fight against. And 302 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: here's a great thing about what you're saying and about 303 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: that story, is that I think people understand that they 304 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: ultimately know that if they give away all their freedoms, 305 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: they're going to be slaves. That's it, pure and simple. 306 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: And then when you look at socialism and how they 307 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: talk down capitalism and they use those terms in such 308 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: a negative way because of who created them. You understand 309 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: why you fight against those and the reason there's so 310 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: many people up in arms these days. This Johnathan Gillham, 311 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back and 312 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk some more about this and take 313 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: some more your calls. Go get my book Sheep No More, 314 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. We'll be right 315 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: back this Johnathan Gilliam back in for a good buddy. 316 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, who's on his way back home from Vietnam. Wow, 317 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: what a week that was for those guys, for Linda 318 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: and the rest of them that were over there, and 319 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they are going to be happy to 320 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: be back. Man. There's nothing like coming back to the 321 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: United States after you've been out of the country and 322 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: to see you know, I gotta give the props to 323 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: all the all the officers at work. When you go 324 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: through immigration and you it's just unbelieve you ever been 325 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: in another country and you go through their immigration. It's 326 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: a little odd. You come back through hours and it's pristine. 327 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: It's like uniformed and everything that they do with standardized, 328 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: and it just makes you realize the country that you 329 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: live in. How incredible this country is, you know, I 330 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: spent I went down about three or four years ago. 331 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: I went down to Venezuela with Vice Media and you 332 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: can look up Vice PMC that stands for the Paramilitary Contractors. 333 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: They were doing a story on the contractors basically they 334 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: calls PMC, but the realities were just security contractors and 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: security experts. And I was down there doing a protection 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: detail and they were along for the ride, and it 337 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I got held for three hours when they 338 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: found out that I used to be an FBI agent basically, 339 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: and it is it's pretty incredible. If you get a 340 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: chance to look into what's happening in Venezuela and comparing 341 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: contrast at with what's happening in South Africa, and comparing 342 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: contrasts at with what's happening in Australia, in London and 343 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Paris and all over the globe, what you're gonna see 344 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: is that there is not it is not just here 345 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: in this country. Okay, you're not just seeing the Democrats 346 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: doing stupid things. In the United States. AOC is not 347 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: just somebody who popped up inside the United States. So 348 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: the reality with this is that it is a global movement. 349 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: It is a global movement that you have to realize 350 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: is happening faster than most people think. Texas is an 351 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: incredible example. Texas is falling to the left faster than 352 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: most Texans even know. Florida has fallen right. You cannot 353 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: even have somebody run for office in Florida that is 354 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: a realist that has acute understandings of effective decision making 355 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: process get elected in Florida because they're gonna have to 356 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Republican Party and that may or may 357 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: not work out. I've had incredible friends that have and 358 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: for office, that have unbelievable qualifications, but yet they ran 359 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: against somebody who was an establishment member in the Republican 360 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Party and they didn't get in, They didn't get funding 361 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: by the Republican Party, and they sent the same person 362 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC that was there before, incompetent wonk for 363 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: the establishment in Florida. You can't even go down there 364 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: and represent the people. It's going to turn into a 365 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: melee and you're going to be fighting against people like 366 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: don't mistake him from my last name, Gilham, he spells 367 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: it different. But the guy that was running for governor, 368 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: who's a criminal. But the point that you have to 369 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: understand about this is that it is not just happening 370 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: in the United States. It's not just happening in this 371 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: state or that one. It's not just a battle between 372 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the media. This is a global family tree, 373 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: a global family tree. So you have to understand this 374 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: and get the mindset. You have to get the mindset 375 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: that when you look at what's going on in the world, 376 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: it is coordinated. That's the big thing. You have to 377 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: realize that this stuff is coordinated. And when I talk 378 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: to people about this and their minds start to pop open, 379 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: they start to realize. Let me give an example of 380 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: how coordination works globally on a very very small scale. 381 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: You get in your car in the United States and 382 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you drive down the road. The roads are a certain width. Okay, 383 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: some countries you drive with the pastor worth the driver 384 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: on the left, and some of you drive the driver 385 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: on the right. But the roads are basically the same width. 386 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: Cars have been designed universally the same way. Road signs 387 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: are pretty much the same way. I remember when those 388 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: roundabouts started getting popular. They are popular in Europe. Now 389 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: they're starting to get popular here and it spreads around 390 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: the globe. What you need to realize is that these 391 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: are things that are spread universally. Why because it works 392 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: because people who are specialists and experts in road construction 393 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: and the car manufacturers and standards and things like that 394 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: come about, and then those things are global, and then 395 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: that's just the way it becomes. This is a width 396 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: of a car, and so that's the width of a road, right, 397 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: and that's universal wherever you go. Never been to a 398 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: country where that's not how wide the roads were, or 399 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: that the yellow lines in the middle or the street 400 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: signs weren't very similar. Well, that's on a simple scale. 401 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: But when we look at how kings and queens and 402 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: I went to Ireland a couple of months ago, and 403 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: you look at how long it used to take for 404 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: kings and queens to change or for things to change, 405 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: you know that is not it used to take hundred 406 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: years or more for sometimes thousand years for a family 407 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: to get pushed out or for things to advance. Now 408 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: they advance in thirty seconds. But it's a global movement. 409 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: And when things are this similar in Australia or South Africa, 410 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: or London, or in France. When they're that similar to 411 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: the way that they are happening here in the United 412 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: States and the way that they're happening in our individual states. 413 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: It should if you're driving down the road right now 414 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: and listen to this, you should like just kind of 415 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: take a deep breath and think about that. Okay, think 416 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: about that. It is not just our mainstream media. It 417 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: is not just a Democrat party. This is a global 418 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: a global fist that is squeezing the planet. Now. I 419 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: don't believe in a one world government. I believe that 420 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: there needs to be separate governments, separate countries, borders. And 421 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: why is that Because when you open up and globalists 422 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: know this, when you open up the entire country so 423 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: that everybody can mill about and so everybody can do 424 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: what they want to do and go wherever they want 425 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: to go. What do you I'll give you two seconds 426 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: to think about this. What do you think is going 427 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: to happen? What do you think if a thousand years 428 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: ago somebody told a king that we want to get 429 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: rid of all the borders in all the countries around 430 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: the world, what do you think that king would start 431 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: to do immediately? He would start to maneuver for power, 432 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and that is what's happening. They are maneuvering for power, 433 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: and they're on the microscale, and they're on the macro scale, states, cities, 434 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: school districts. And what's crazy is they get power in 435 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: a snap because they don't have to get a lot 436 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: of votes to get it. You know, up here in 437 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: New York City, Deblasio was elected with like six thousand 438 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: votes in a city that has eight million. I mean, 439 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: think about that, folks, that's how few people went to 440 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: vote for Deblasio. A communist, worked for the communist Nicaraguans, 441 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: went to Russia on his honeymoon. He and Bernie Sanders 442 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: are one in the same. You need to think about this. 443 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, AOC Deblasio, These wackadoos that are in Congress 444 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: and from all these states, These local mayors that are 445 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: that are part of the establishment. Many of them are 446 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: in the Republican Party. You look at the media and 447 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: the way the media works. I could go on and 448 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: on about how they treated Trump and the way that 449 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the paraded Cohen, and we'll talk about that through the 450 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: rest of the show. But it is not just in 451 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the United States. This is a global movement for power. 452 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: And we have examples. I've been talking to somebody who's 453 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: from South Africa and they've talked it was incredible this 454 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: I hate color of skin conversations, all right, but this 455 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: person has white skin. Was a tremendous fan of Nelson Mandela. 456 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: And they said Nelson Mandela put certain stop gaps in 457 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the way that he did things and wrote laws because 458 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: he saw the potential of what's happening over there right now. 459 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: And what's happening over there right now is a completely 460 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: destroyed country. It's people are being murdered at an amazing rate. 461 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Reparations are happening where they're just going in and taking 462 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: people's lands because of the color of their skin. But 463 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: what did they do before they did all that? What 464 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: do you think they did? They took all their guns away, 465 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: Australia taking all their guns away. So I want you 466 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: all to consider this as we get ready to go 467 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: to break here in just a second. And when you 468 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: consider this, that what you're seeing every day when you 469 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: see Cohen paraded and given a voice, when you see 470 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders on the View, I hope you're not watching 471 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: that show. You literally lose brain sales watching the View. 472 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: If you hear AOC say something that's mind boggling and 473 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: people clap like she's the Queen of England. It's a 474 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: global movement. It's just being refined in other places. Just 475 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: like terrorism. They refine their attacks over there, and then 476 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: they come over here and they use what they know, 477 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: what they've learned that works. That's what's happening. There's John 478 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: and Gilling filled in for my good buddy Sean Hannity 479 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. Go get my book 480 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Cheap No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. 481 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: You should order it before this show is over so 482 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: you can start reading it tonight, and then when the 483 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: work book comes out, the first work book in April, 484 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: you can get that in the second one comes out 485 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: in July. You can continue and make your entire family, 486 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: your business, your state in this country safer. Go get 487 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: it Cheap no More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. 488 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. This say is Johnathan going back 489 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: in from my good buddy Sean Handy on the Sean 490 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Hannity Radio Show, and real quick, only a few minutes here. 491 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: I want to talk. I brought in a good buddy 492 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: of mine, Gary Tally Jane Intelligent. He's a retired lieutenant 493 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: from New Jersey State Police, and he asked me, and 494 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: I spoke. You can see the video of me speaking 495 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: on Facebook where I spoke to the Trooper's Bridge Foundation 496 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: and what an amazing group this was, And so I 497 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: wanted to bring Gary on so he could talk about 498 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: it real quick and tell you, guys, how you can 499 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: give to this incredible foundation because it really represents New York, 500 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey and Pennsylvania State troopers basic and it really 501 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: cops all all over the place. But go ahead, yeah, 502 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: how did it start? Absolutely back in nineteen ninety seven 503 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: when we lost troopers scuckn Zaliz from New Jersey State 504 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Police in a tragic shootout, my brother, who's a Pennsylvania trooper, 505 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Blair Intelligen, ended up contacting me and we ended up 506 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: meeting at the Delaware Water Gap Bridge on eighty between 507 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and New Jersey to initiate putting together some funds 508 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: for Scott's widow, Maureen. And from that point forward, the 509 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: dinner took off between New Jersey and Pennsylvania State Police, 510 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: and then New York State Police ended up getting involved. 511 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: And what we did from that point moving forward, we 512 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: choose death in the line of duty, injury and the 513 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: line of duty, sickness in the line of duty. We 514 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: choose families from New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York State Police. 515 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: And at this stage of the game, we've supported over 516 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: a hundred families in all three states and given out 517 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: over five hundred thousand dollars over the past twenty two years. 518 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: How do people donate to this or get involved with this? 519 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Because right now when you have this dinner, it's pretty 520 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: much troopers, but people can be involved in this. Absolutely. 521 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: People can get involved in it by going to the 522 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Troopers Bridge Dinner Foundation. We have a Facebook page. They'll 523 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: be able to contact us through that point and then 524 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: we can give them the information on our five O 525 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: one C three and how they can make donations and 526 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: how they can attend it dinner. Also, we take on sponsorships. 527 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: So this year alone, how many troopers have we lost 528 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: in this area? This year alone, we honored five troopers 529 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: that we lost. One we lost four in the line 530 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: of duty, loss of life and one it was a 531 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: return recipient. It was injury in the line of duty, 532 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: which was Alex Douglas from Pennsylvania State Police who eventually, 533 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: due to his injuries, had his leg amputated and we 534 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: brought him back as a recipient. Great guy one nine 535 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: to eleven lost. The other three two of them were 536 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: motor vehicle accidents and one was a domestic shootout that 537 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: we lost between New York and New Jersey. Right. I 538 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: don't think people realize, you know, and we only got 539 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: about a many here. People don't realize we send our 540 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: troops off to deploy in foreign nations, but law enforcement, hearing, 541 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: especially troopers, are under a tremendous threat all the time, 542 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: especially troopers because they work alone most of the Yeah, 543 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: most of the time. When we go out in the evenings, 544 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: we will ride double at times, but during the day 545 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: and the afternoon tours, we're running single. Yeah. Let me 546 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: ask you this real quick, just yes or no answer. 547 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Has politics made the job of being a cop more dangerous? 548 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: I would say yes, it has made it a bit 549 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: more dangerous in a point where people are skeptical and untrusting. 550 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: So it's it's had to give us. We've had to 551 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: gain the ability to get the public's trust back again 552 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: because there is a skepticism when dealing with us so 553 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: we're we're now working back up the mountain to trust. 554 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: That's very well said. I could probably talk for an 555 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: hour on that myself, but listen, tell everybody again how 556 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: they find and uh and donate to this this organization, 557 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: incredible organization. Well, they can reach out to us. We, 558 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: like I said, we have a Facebook page, which is 559 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: the Troopers Bridge Foundation that they can reach out to 560 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: and possibly maybe what we can do is put a 561 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: link towards you, Jonathan, if you would be happy with that, 562 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: and they can contact us through you. Also. I put 563 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: it on my Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. I don't really 564 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: don't know what Instagram is all about still, but I'm 565 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And then you guys go 566 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: and you give to them. One hundred percent of the 567 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: funds that we raise go to the recipients each year 568 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: through the criteria nuts how we choose them, obviously the 569 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Troopers Bridge Foundation, and I'll put that information on my website. 570 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, Johnathan, going back in for my 571 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: good buddy Sean Hannity, the Sean Hannity Radio Show. You know, folks, 572 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I was talking in the first hour about it's kind 573 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: of philosophical, a little bit, but it all is you're 574 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: going to see now how all this ties in. Okay. 575 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: I like to start off philosophical and then pull you 576 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: in and hopefully you're listening to this, not just for 577 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, that you're listening to the whole show, because 578 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: here's the reality. Like I said earlier, this is a 579 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: global movement that's happening right. This is not just the 580 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Democrats versus Republicans. Are Trump being bashed by the media. 581 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: This is something that's going on around the world, and 582 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: they have systematically stepped all over politicians that are even 583 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: remotely similar to Trump, although there's nobody really similar to 584 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump at all. I wanted to bring in because 585 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: I feel it's important not to bring in an attorney, 586 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: which we seem to have a plethora of attorneys who 587 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: are now quote unquote analysts on TV, in and media. 588 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Let's reach I figured, let's call my good buddy that 589 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: when I need to know the reality of how covert 590 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: operations work. And that's Scott you Linger, former CIA operations 591 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 1: officer and station chief and also a naval officer, and 592 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: you just wrote an article Scott on Newsmax about Trump 593 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: walked away from North Korea like Reagan did USSR. Now, 594 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: the funny thing about that I said that. Somebody made 595 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: a comment yesterday, another commentator saying how that Trump was played. 596 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: He looked like a fool, that he should have had 597 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: all this stuff done before he went there, so they 598 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: just shook hands, and I basically made the response, So 599 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: he should have had a summit before the summit, is 600 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: what you're saying. But that's not always the way it works, 601 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: and that's not always the best thing to do, is it. 602 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: Not like if he got up and walked off and 603 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: showed dominance, that's actually a good thing, right exactly. I 604 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: mean a lot of times with these conferences, they do 605 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: have the meeting, the pre meeting before the meeting, you know. 606 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: But this is different because here we have the United 607 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: States president meeting with the North Korean leaders. That's something 608 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: that's never happened. And that's another thing we need to 609 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: keep perspective on. If we had been if you and 610 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: I had been on the radio talking two and a 611 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: half years ago that Donald Trump was going to be 612 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: meeting with Kim Jong un, everyone would have thought we 613 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: were crazy. The impossible has already happened. He's actually meeting 614 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: with him, and you're right, and walking away is a 615 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: strong thing to do. And by the way, don't think 616 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: that the Chinese haven't noticed this as far as the 617 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: trade talks with China are going, because now Donald Trump 618 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: has shown the world he's willing to walk away. So 619 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: believe you me, the Chinese are thinking, is he going 620 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: to walk away with the trade deal that we've been 621 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: discussing for weeks? Yeah, so all these things have they transcend. 622 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: It's not just about North Korea. It's about how he 623 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: looks on the world stage, how the president of the 624 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: United States looks on the world stage. And see, that's 625 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: what I thought when he was in the Oval office 626 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and he owned that 627 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: situation just happened a month or so ago, and he said, 628 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I will own the shutdown. I will 629 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: own it because we're gonna have border security. And he 630 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: that was a moment of defining who he was. I 631 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: think that the course the media overlooked it, because when 632 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this global thing, and they just overlooked 633 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: anything he does. But I look at what he did 634 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: yesterday as something that I wouldn't even say, is like 635 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, because Ronald Reagan existed in an era of 636 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: politics where we were still dominant. We were still considered 637 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: a dominant country. And I'm not saying dominant like we're 638 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: going to go around and throw our weight around like 639 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: the old USSR. But we are a dominant force for 640 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: freedom in this world. And we're not really that way anymore. 641 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: And because of Obama, and I will even say George 642 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: Bush in the way that the decline of American exceptionalism 643 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: and the respect around the world. For Donald Trump to 644 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: get up and do what he did yesterday is a 645 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: huge thing compared to Ronald Reagan. That's right, and also 646 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. When Ronald Reagan was in Reggie vic Iceland, 647 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: there weren't the Congress wasn't convening listening to a known perjurer, 648 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: give give more dirt on the president of the United States. 649 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: We saw with the with the Democrats. So you know 650 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: that old politics ends at the water's edge. You know 651 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: that's been gone now, didn't bury for fifteen years or so. 652 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: And that's another thing that President Trump has to deal with. Well, 653 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: what's funny is what I did. I started to allude to, 654 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: but it didn't finishes that you have people when I 655 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: when I responded to this commentator that was on Twitter 656 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: saying this, and then you get the trolls coming on 657 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: there they say stuff like, you know, no president ever 658 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: walks away. Tell me when some president has ever walked 659 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: away from them? Obviously they know or they just had 660 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: the ability to go and type in on a search engine, 661 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: has a president ever walked away? Because it has happened, 662 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: that's right. And also and also it's probably hasn't happened 663 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: enough because probably in the past fifty years, if you 664 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: go back, there has been plenty of times where we 665 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: should have walked away and we did not. You know, 666 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: we signed an agreement with North Korea. We were supposed 667 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: to have solved this under President Clinton in nineteen ninety four, 668 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: the Agreed Framework. That's a deal that was signed that 669 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: should never have been signed because it was utterly useless. 670 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: We gave them, we gave them millions of tons of 671 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: fuel oil, and they cheated on developing nuclear weapons anyway. 672 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: So there's been plenty of deals where we should have 673 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: walked away and didn't. So it's about time that we 674 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: had that, you know, we had have a realistic president 675 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: who has no illusions who said, Okay, I'm gonna walk away. 676 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: And by the way, that doesn't mean that this is 677 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: all finished. This is just another step in the progress 678 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: we're making toward denolization. Now it may never happen, but 679 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, disarment, this is we're dealing with a formidable, 680 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: deceptive enemy here. So you know, this is a process. 681 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: It's going to take years. But every month that we're 682 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: at the table talking is one less month that we're 683 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: at war. And I can't see that as anything but 684 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah, well, so let's think about this 685 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and go a little bit behind, because 686 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna really even until Donald Trump has a treaty 687 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: in his hand that says something, nobody's really gonna even 688 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: concentrate on that. They're not even concentrating on the fact 689 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: that his Power movie yesterday. They're already talking about something 690 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: that he said about Adam Warrember and that Kim Jong 691 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: un says that he didn't know and something that I 692 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: believe that was a mistake saying that. But listen, the 693 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: reality is it may have been some game. It may 694 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: have been some gamemanship. Should have been times you have 695 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: to say you have to say un palatable things. You're 696 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: in the diplom madic world. And they may have said 697 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: that knowing it wasn't true. But he's got to kind 698 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: of set up Kim John for success, right, you know 699 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: that's possible. And that's what kills about the American media 700 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: is that they they crush him when and they never 701 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: consider what you just said, right, They don't consider. They're 702 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: just crush him and uh, and it really makes it's 703 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: got to make it difficult for him, uh, doing these 704 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: types of summits and negotiations. But what I want you 705 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: to explain to the people is the reality of diplomacy. 706 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: People are under the illusion that these politicians will will 707 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: meet up in a summit, and that diplomacy is similar 708 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: to going into um, you know, a small bar, and 709 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: you know so and so's over there. That's from you 710 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: know that you don't really like him too much, but 711 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: you know your mutual friends and they really want you 712 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: guys to get together. And that diplomacy is like going 713 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: in and saying, okay, all right, I'll sit down, we'll 714 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: have a beer, and then you try to become friends 715 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: and by the end of the night you're just drinking 716 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: and laughing. And having a great time. You're friends for 717 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. That's the way they think 718 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: diplomacy works. But that is not the case. Without strength, 719 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: you have no diplomacy, right is that true? That's right, 720 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: that's right. And North Korea has spent fifty years taking 721 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: advantage of our weakness, our inability to see through their deception. 722 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: We're always looking to cut a deal in no matter what. 723 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: The Iranians played Obama like a stratavarius when it came 724 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: to the same thing. The guy so desperately wanted the deal. 725 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: The Iranians at one point realized, we can do anything 726 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: we want here, and he is going to sign it 727 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: because he can't walk away. He's too committed to it. Yeah, 728 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: and these kinds of reading your enemy is a key 729 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: to diplomacy. Now, unfortunately, you know, in the past we 730 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: have been taken advantage of. But for once, you know, 731 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: the North Koreans, and this was covered in the press, 732 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: you know whatever, eight months ago. The North Koreans are 733 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: actually thinking, like, where is this guy coming from? We 734 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: don't exactly know. We have been able to play the 735 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Americans like violins for years, but this person is suddenly different, 736 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: and so does it mean that Donald Trump is going 737 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: to be successful where others have not been. I don't know. However, 738 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: he already is more has made more progress than anyone else, 739 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: and so he's giving it his best shot, which is 740 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: the best that anyone can do. But he's also going 741 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: in with eyes open, and if it's going to be solved, 742 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: it will be by somebody the likes of him instead 743 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: of you know, Wendy Sherman, the woman who signed the 744 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: Iranian deal, who before working in the administration was a 745 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: social worker, believe it. Oh and by the way, she 746 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: also was responsible for the nineteen ninety four oh Framework 747 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: agreement with North Korea, another disaster. So he's two for 748 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: oh two disastrous agreement signed and her background is social way, 749 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: who is this woman again? Wendy Sherman was like brought 750 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: into the Clinton administration and she was a former social worker, 751 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: and then she moved up some you know, political appoint 752 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: viees into the State Department, etc. And she wound up 753 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: negotiating deals with known thugs, assassins, and murderers. Same thing 754 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: in the Obama administration. You talk about the right the 755 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: person least likely to be able to get a good 756 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: deal would have been her, and she was the one 757 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: doing it so well. I could say a lot about 758 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: the Ben Rhodes and the Obama administration. What I challenge 759 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: people to do is go look at who ran these things. 760 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: And I don't even care if it's wikipede, just go 761 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: look them up and you're going to see the reality 762 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: of who's negotiating for our country. It's it's scary, and 763 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: it's a disaster. Listen, Scott, let's take a break. We're 764 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna come back and then we'll have a little bit 765 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: of time on the other side of the break. Let's 766 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: come and we'll come back, and I want to ask 767 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: you the reality of this global movement which I've been 768 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: talking about, and how much it is playing into events 769 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: that are going on around You can find Scott you 770 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: Linger on Twitter at the Station Chief. You can find 771 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and on Facebook, 772 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: Instagram and YouTube at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Go find us 773 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: at us, like us, follow us, and we will participate 774 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: in the dialogue with you. And go get my book 775 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. 776 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Jonathan Gilliam back in for Sean Hannity, 777 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: Well he travels back to the United States. Almost sounded 778 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: like uh Rick Shannon right there a little bit. So anyway, 779 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: we got Scott, We got Scott your linger still on 780 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: the radio, on the on the radio, on the phone 781 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: with us and Scott. So here's what I ask you. 782 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: The first part of the show, I was talking about 783 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: the ideology and the family tree, the politics, the media, 784 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: and how worldwide they are able to push this, uh 785 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: this global movement forward. If we look at the headlines 786 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: right now that it's like on Fox News that com 787 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: says DEM's embrace reparations, border wall construction, green new deal. 788 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know about the border wall destruction. Okay, so 789 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: they embrace reparations, border wall destruction, and green New deal 790 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: which is going to bankrupt the country. Now, when you 791 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: look at South Africa and when you look at Australia 792 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: and you look at all these other places around the 793 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: world where they have moved to take away guns and 794 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: it's systematic. It happens the same exact way. Get rid 795 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: of the guns, get rid of the conservative free speech, 796 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: get rid of border walls, bring in quote unquote refugees, 797 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: and then start reparations. Right, there's no way that that 798 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: is just systematically happening spontaneously in each country and it's 799 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: not connected. Am I correct that way? I think people, 800 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: I think that there's what's happened is, you know, our 801 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: education system has gotten to the point that that basically 802 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: you're getting similar you're getting similar, brilliant ideas all over 803 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: the globe that are all kind of leaning towards a 804 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: leaning towards socialism. You know, you don't let me give 805 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: you a little pushback on there. You you ran operations 806 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: in other places in the country, you don't think I mean, 807 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: you got to say, there's it is strange that the 808 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: exact thing, the exact way is happening at the exact 809 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: same time in so many of these free countries. That's 810 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: two coincident, right But but right, well, that's that's true. Job. 811 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: But also a lot of this stuff has been happening 812 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: for many years. I mean a lot of this is 813 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: taken out of like the standard communist playbook. I mean, 814 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: pitty minorities against one another is something that Stalin was 815 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: doing in the nineteen twenty I mean, you know, so 816 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: there's certain tools in the communist playbook that have been 817 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: wholeheartedly adapted by like the liberal progressives in whether it's 818 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: in Western Europe or in Canada or United States or 819 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: in Venezuela. That's been done to like established control over 820 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: the people. And now with the rise of technology, it 821 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: allows it's it's a dream come true for the for 822 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: even people like the Chinese with their with their social 823 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: media scores. You know about in China, they have everyone 824 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: in the country now has a score of one thousand. 825 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: They monitor you intermittently on Facebook and social their social media, 826 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: and they start knocking points off. If you get below 827 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: a certain limit, let's say seven hundred points, you're not 828 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: flying anywhere outside of China, and maybe below six hundred 829 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: points you're not allowed to take a train in China. 830 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: So you know, what would have been what would it 831 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: have been like for you to run operations when if 832 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: social media was around, when when you were because you 833 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: got out right when social media started to get big, right, 834 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: what would that have been? Like? How much easier would 835 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: that about? I mean it would have it would have 836 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: been It would have been absolutely a dream come true 837 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: because well, if one thing, the one thing about social media, 838 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: for instance, let's say LinkedIn, people can check me out 839 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, they can check you out on LinkedIn or 840 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and they can find more. And I did 841 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: this willingly, but they can find out more information from 842 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: me in thirty minutes than somebody in nine team you know, 843 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: eighty could have found out over a period of months 844 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: about me if I were some like a targrapher and 845 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: intelligence operation. This is the kind of information you have 846 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: to obtain from somebody slowly, or maybe the agency or 847 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: the FBI has some record of this person who's been 848 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: met by previous people. But like if you're targeting someone 849 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: for an operation, this now this information is at someone's fingertips. 850 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: And of course, now if you're going to talk about 851 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: a covert action where which I did not do very 852 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: much of, where you're going to start basically forcing a 853 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: narrative on a population to get them to go somewhere, 854 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: the way the way the Russians turned Eastern Europe read 855 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: after World War Two. Social media allows you to do 856 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: that very efficiently and extremely cheaply with a minimum of people. 857 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: We see it every day now and we just accept 858 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: it as a fact of life. When it's not. It's 859 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: it's been twisted. And you know, when you look at 860 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,280 Speaker 1: the amount of conservative speakers banned off social media stuff. 861 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: It's got a frightening. That's a frightening. Uh yeah, gotta 862 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: break there. God bless your brother. Have a great weekend. Scott, 863 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: you linger at the station chief on Twitter, Go find him, 864 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter at Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and 865 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan T. Gilliam on everything else, and go get my 866 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. 867 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, And this is John and the 868 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: Gilliam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity from 869 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: a Sean Hannity radio show. I wonder how long it's 870 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna take Linda to get back, if she's gonna get 871 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 1: back before Monday, because evidently Sean left a day after 872 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: she did to go to Vietnam, and it took her 873 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: a day extra to get there. Poor little, poor little 874 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: Linda stopping. She's everywhere, She's the everywhere spirit. Okay, So 875 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: you heard from Scott there, right, You heard my opening 876 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: rants talking about the ideological movement of globalism and how 877 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: what is happening in the United States, how everybody on 878 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: the democra exide or in media just or against Trump, 879 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: or you see these States turning blue at a rapid pace. 880 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: How the reality is it's a global movement because it's 881 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: happening in other countries. One thing in particular that Scott 882 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: you Linger said is when he was running operations in 883 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,959 Speaker 1: the CIA, if social media had been around, it would 884 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: have been a dream because then you could have made 885 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: things happen so much faster and on so much larger 886 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: of a scale. Now, that is what is something I 887 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: want to key in on a little bit now. And 888 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: the reality of how media, which is huge part of 889 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: this family tree, it's the echo chamber of this family tree. 890 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: How they just refuse to concentrate on things that President 891 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: Trump has done that's good, and we see this over 892 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: and over again. So I figured I'd bring in my 893 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: exceptionally good friend and listen. This accent that you're going 894 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: to hear is totally real. I just want everybody to 895 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: know that this is not an act. She is the 896 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: political diva, Tracy Belmonte and those of you that probably 897 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: she has a huge following online. She's done a lot 898 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: with GOP campaigns. She's got like fifteen degrees and I'm trying. 899 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: It's true, you have a degree in almost everything, but 900 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: you're not just that. You're not just an educated person 901 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: who's been like an educator. You're somebody who is a 902 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: thought leader, and you've also been an actress and a model, 903 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: and you've done all these different things. But you see 904 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: the reality from the conversations that we've had and the 905 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: things that you've seen, both both in politics and in life, 906 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: of how much is left out, especially when we talk 907 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: about Trump, how much is left out that he does 908 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: and is never reported. So even people on the left think, oh, gosh, 909 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: she's just failing here. He's doing this, he's doing that, 910 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: because they don't step out of the little box they've 911 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: been put in and they don't see reality. You know, Jonathan, 912 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: the level of desperation of the leftist opposition media, and 913 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: they are the opposition because they oppose everything that is traditional, 914 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: all the traditional American principles, and they worked to further 915 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 1: this heathenistic leftist ideology. You know, it's it's reached deathcon 916 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: five at this point. You know, we saw it this week. 917 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: And they're more interested in giving an audience to evoke 918 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: some lying criminal like Michael Cullen and bashing our president. 919 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: Then they are supporting our president as he attempts to 920 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: negotiate peace with one of our most dangerous enemies. And 921 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: this is our media in twenty nineteen. Jonathan, Well, you've 922 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: been in media, right, You've been in media for quite 923 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: some time. It is it? How much have you been 924 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: censored on media? I know there's a thing out in 925 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Facebook right now and about Facebook where they're saying that 926 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: they were and we all know that this happened, the 927 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: fact that we have to have a news story to 928 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: show this my reach One time on Facebook Live. I 929 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: was doing a show every night called The Experts, and 930 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: it was being samocasts on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, and 931 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: my reach was almost a million people a night on Facebook. 932 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 1: It went down to like three thousand after I criticized 933 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: some leftists in this country and just disappeared. How much 934 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: have you seen this and how much of a part 935 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,240 Speaker 1: do you think when it comes to getting the truth 936 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: out about what President Trump is doing or what's effective? 937 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 1: How much is that being blocked? Oh? Oh goodness, gracious, 938 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: if you're a conservative, forget it. It's true. I have 939 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: plenty of friends that have lost their accounts on Periscope, 940 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: Twitter and all the new media platforms for no reason 941 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: at all. They're not given a reason, and when they 942 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: try to appeal Twitter Periscope, they just don't get any 943 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: replies back. I have a friend that has a very 944 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: successful new media show and he had to appeal eleven 945 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 1: times to get a response and he still doesn't know 946 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: what he did wrong. And he's really not that controversial. 947 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm not that controversial either. I'm pretty mainstream conservative Republican. 948 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: But I'm shadow band uh to oblivion on Twitter. I mean, 949 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: but you know, we see with the mainstream media. This 950 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: week was really really telling because I didn't even know 951 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: that President Trump broker it's twenty billion dollars deal with 952 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: Vietnam's Bamboo Airways. Did you even hear about that? No? 953 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: What is And the only reason he broke heer Trump 954 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: broker to deal with a twenty billion dollars deal for 955 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: with Boeing. It was just going to bring a lot 956 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: of revenue into our country. Yes, I did hear. You 957 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't even hear about it? Yeah? The only reason I 958 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: heard about it was because Donald Trump tweeted about it. 959 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: And uh, it's Michael with a Twitter and Donald Trump's 960 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: feed from my news, right, We'll see. That's the That's 961 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: the thing. Social media when it first started and when 962 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: I was talking to Scott Ealinger earlier about how it 963 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: could be used and UM in covert subversive operations. UM 964 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: social media was for period of time it was our 965 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: voice started to get very big. I know, you run 966 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 1: your own social media show, you were part of another 967 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: social media show, and it started to really be a 968 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: major competitor with mainstream media. And then that was this 969 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: that was stopped. It was completely stopped. So the voice 970 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of went down as far as the reach that 971 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: the conservative platform had. But how much of And I 972 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 1: really want to get your take on this when we 973 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: look at the global the global movement of the left 974 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 1: and the right right, and we look at the global 975 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: movement of these establishments. You know, you've done a lot 976 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: with the GOP. I have a gripe with the GOP 977 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: because I don't believe that when I go around and 978 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: I speak to all these different GOOP groups and I'm 979 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: meeting the people, they are not in line with the 980 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: GOOP establishment. How much have that have you seen? And 981 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: how much of that is causing the president this same 982 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: conflict when it comes to doing his job. Oh, we 983 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: have a rhino problem in the GOP and you know, 984 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm from New York, and the only way I can 985 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: in the prime. I know you couldn't tell, right I said, 986 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: Although if you look at slid or they think I'm 987 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: a Russian fought because obviously I have that accent, right. 988 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: But you know, if we if we vote in a 989 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: primary year, it's closed. So I have to remain a 990 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: member of the GOP. Otherwise I probably would have left 991 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: the party a long time ago in favor of being 992 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 1: an independent because I'm America first. I'm not necessarily down 993 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: with this rhino GOP establishment that seems to be controlling everything. 994 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: And we you know, we see it time and time again, Jonathan, 995 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 1: when they when the GOP when it matters, like let's 996 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: just say getting rid of Obamacare, when the vote matters, 997 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: they don't follow through at their spineless They let the 998 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: Democrats get away time and time again with a murder. 999 00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: I it's crazy. Well, I don't know it don't know 1000 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,959 Speaker 1: a lot of times if they let them get away 1001 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: with it or if they're a part of it, just 1002 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: like when we look at healthcare. You know, seven years 1003 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: President Trump comes in, they didn't think he was gonna win. 1004 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: He won. They had no built they didn't have an alternative, right, 1005 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: there was nothing, and when right and when the vote matters, 1006 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: when it matters, they just they don't pull it through 1007 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: and they they're just find us. And you're right, they 1008 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: probably are in on it. And you know, with the 1009 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: with the Democrats and Republicans and globalism and social media. 1010 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: You know, let's put it this way. Conservatives that are 1011 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: true conservatives, that are true principal conservatives, they're going to 1012 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: be censored. Anybody that's for Donald Trump is going to 1013 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: be censored, shadow bound, whatever you want to call it. 1014 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: Because the only way the Democrats can win us to cheat, 1015 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: and unfortunately they're in charge of everything. You know, our 1016 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: economy is powerfully strong, the jobs market and consumer optimism 1017 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: aren't record highs where steeds and secure nation today because 1018 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: of President Trump. And the only way the Democrats can 1019 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: win is by cheating, and that's what they're doing because 1020 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: this far less platform of open borders and gun grabbing 1021 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: it and medicare for all socialism, it's not going to 1022 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: win the Middle America unless we don't hear about it now. 1023 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: But here's the scary part, right, here's the scary part 1024 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: young people in this country, and by and large a 1025 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of people that are not young. I mean people 1026 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: are being snowed into believing Trump is a bad president 1027 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: because all they watch is mainstream media. They've been snowed 1028 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: into believing that socialism could actually work here, and they 1029 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: don't look into anything. They take a meme and they 1030 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: say that's the truth, or they listen to a commentator 1031 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: and they say that's the truth, and they don't look 1032 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: into it. It's terrifying, it really is. The liberal indoctrination 1033 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: of our youth made me angry enough as an educator 1034 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: to become politically active. So I started to write political articles. 1035 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: I started to work on America First campaigns at the 1036 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: local in federal level. I started to broadcast with new 1037 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: media programs and get that work out there and do 1038 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: my part. But deadly most people, I find, the mainstream 1039 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: type of people will complain about these things on social media, 1040 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: but when push comes to shove, they won't go to 1041 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: a rally. They won't go and volunteer for some sort 1042 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: of political campaign that can get us closer to our 1043 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: goal and to keep our constitution safe for decades to come. 1044 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest problem is that is 1045 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: one thing in this country. That has allowed what's happening 1046 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: in other countries to progress is the fact that they 1047 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,919 Speaker 1: that people are not organizing on the right, they're just 1048 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: they just refuge. That's why you know the thing about 1049 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: the wall, and people were sending money in for the 1050 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: wall in this that bothered me, not because you know, 1051 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: people wanted to do something. It bothered me because it 1052 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: was another way for people not to get up and act. 1053 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: And I just you know, a lot of these go 1054 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: fund me campaigns that I pushed forward, I think they're great, 1055 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: and I will continue to push for people to send 1056 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: five dollars or twenty dollars here there for people that 1057 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: need it. I think the American people are very gracious 1058 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: in that way and make big changes. But when it 1059 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: comes to this movement, it's seeping into our country very quick. 1060 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: They got to get up absolutely, and that is the 1061 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: biggest problem that I find is apathy. I have worked 1062 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: on these campaigns. When Donald Trump was running for president, 1063 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I didn't go to Trump's Tower necessarily all the time 1064 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: to go work on that campaign. There were places in 1065 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Queens where I was needed to make phone calls, put 1066 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,479 Speaker 1: together signs. I traveled to New Hampshire because they asked 1067 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: me too. I traveled to Pennsylvania because they asked me too. 1068 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: But I ask somebody to travel five misnutes outside their house. No, 1069 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: they rather stay on Facebook or Instagram or whatever and 1070 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: complained about it. And that's the biggest problem that I 1071 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: find is the apathy. You have no right to complain 1072 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: about the state of our country if you're not involved. 1073 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 1: How do people That's I think a big thing is 1074 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: that there are people that want to get involved. They 1075 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: don't know how. How do you get involved? Yeah? I 1076 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: tell them all the time. Become a broadcaster. There are 1077 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 1: plenty of platforms and yes, yeah, I granted we are 1078 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: definitely censors, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to 1079 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: get on the platforms and to broadcast. Get involved in campaigns. 1080 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,439 Speaker 1: Now in New York, I kind of get the short 1081 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: end of the stick here. I mean, Peter King is 1082 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 1: pretty good. I likely zeld In a lot, but they're 1083 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of mad duck candidates in New York. 1084 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to give up on my stage. 1085 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: So get involved in those little things. Get on social media. 1086 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: You can find groups, meetups. You know, there are places 1087 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: where we can get together and organize and they are 1088 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: actually happening. That's the thing. People just have to look 1089 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: for it. Listen, how do people how do people find you? 1090 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Because I know your information probably will lead people to 1091 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 1: some of these meetups and stuff. How do they find 1092 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: you on social media? Absolutely? Well, you can go to 1093 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: my website politodiva dot com or and I have a 1094 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: very active Twitter presence at Real Politic Diva and then 1095 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: that's po l I Ti diva. Yes, because I love 1096 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: politics and I never met a sequin I didn't like. 1097 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: There you go, Oh you blend say that for me once? 1098 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh you blend? Oh you blend. That's real. That's real 1099 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: right there? All right, listen, um, love you and uh 1100 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and we'll have you back on when I host again. 1101 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing because this is the voice 1102 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that people need to hear and they need to realize that. 1103 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be a superstar politician 1104 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: or somebody who's an anchor on TV to make a difference. 1105 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: You just have to get up and get together. That's right, 1106 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that's where it starts. Yeah, all right, God bless you 1107 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: have a great weekend. I know you're gonna have a 1108 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: great Friday night and I will be talking to you soon. 1109 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: This is John mc gillam filling in for my good 1110 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. You 1111 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter j gilliam Underscore Seal and 1112 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,959 Speaker 1: on Facebook, YouTube and Instagram at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Add 1113 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: me on all of them joining the dialogue. I've had 1114 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: tons of people meet each other through my social media 1115 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: and become friends and a part of this voice. Let's 1116 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 1: push them. Let's push this leftist globalist movement back out 1117 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: of this country. We are in the exact footsteps of 1118 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: our founding fathers. We have to claim it, we have 1119 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: to be it, and we have to start moving. Go 1120 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness 1121 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: and Attack Survival that'll teach you how to protect your 1122 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: home and yourself, your family, your business, and let's get 1123 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: this whole empowerment thing moving. We'll be right back. This 1124 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: is John the Guilliam back in for Sean Hannity. And 1125 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I just had my good friend Tracy Belmonte to put 1126 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: a diva on here and I want to bring in 1127 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: one of the callers, Carry from Riverdale, New Jersey. What 1128 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: did you think, Carrie? What do you got, hi, Jonathan. 1129 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted to comment on supporters of the right 1130 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: getting involved in things like this, you know, supporting the candidates, 1131 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: and I, for one, you know, I'm afraid to do 1132 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: it just because of the ramifications that the Democratic Party 1133 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: can put on us. We've seen it over and over 1134 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: again with audits and things like that. And I'm a 1135 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: small business owner and I'm not willing to put my 1136 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: business or my employees at risk. And I think we 1137 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: saw that a lot with the polling that's done, you know, 1138 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: in the last elected and even still you know, it's 1139 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: just not accurate, but we're afraid to say anything. But 1140 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. And I'm sorry that it's got to 1141 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: be such a short call, but I'm going to talk 1142 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: about what you've brought up in the end of the 1143 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 1: last hour, Okay, Tree, I promise, I promise that, Kerry, 1144 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 1: because what you're talking about it's called depression. I mean, 1145 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that's the reality, is it not. And that is the 1146 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: reality of what's happening in this country. Free speech of conservatives, 1147 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: of free thinkers is being oppressed. We're gonna take a break. 1148 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back while you're on break. Go get 1149 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and 1150 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: a Tax Survival. Will be back. This is Jona mc 1151 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: gillam back in for the third hour for my good 1152 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. I 1153 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: hope that everybody's been listening for the entire show. You know, 1154 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: when I come on, I don't get the host all 1155 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: the time. So when I come on, I pour a 1156 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: lot into this show, and I talk a lot about 1157 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: the ideology I have. I talk about a lot of 1158 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that's going on behind the scenes. And one 1159 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: thing that you're seeing on television and mainstream media and 1160 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: on the radio nowadays is that, first of all, there's 1161 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: a lot of attorneys, which I don't know why we're 1162 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: listening to attorneys so much. I love the attorneys, they 1163 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: serve a purpose, but they're really we listen to them 1164 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: way too much. Myself haven't been a Navy seal and 1165 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: an FBI agent and done all these different things. I 1166 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: have an insight. I don't know everything, and I'm the 1167 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: first to tell you, but I have an insight into 1168 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: the way things come about, especially from a leadership point 1169 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of view. What's effective and what's not. And I you know, 1170 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 1: when I was putting together the list today for who 1171 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 1: was going to be on a good do you mind? 1172 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Santos he another Navy vet. He reached out to me 1173 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: and he said, I've got a great guest for you, 1174 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, listen, I'm a huge fan. I 1175 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: rarely get starstruck, but this is one of the people 1176 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: that would make me star struck. Unfortunately, I haven't written 1177 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: a motorcycle in forever because I had a bad crash 1178 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: in eighty eight. Maybe one day I'll get back on one. 1179 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: So you all know him as the big massive father 1180 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: on American Choppers, Paul Tuttle Senior. He's a founder of 1181 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Orange County Choppers and you know his custom motorcycles are 1182 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 1: all over the place. And Paul Man, it is an 1183 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: honor to have you on here and get the interview. 1184 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,919 Speaker 1: It's a huge honor. That's an honor for me. So 1185 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. You got it. And I wanted 1186 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: to ask you, you know, talking about leadership and things 1187 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: like that, what you know, what has been the biggest challenge. 1188 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people, you know, have dreams 1189 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: and aspirations of opening a company and running a company, 1190 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: a small business. What is the biggest challenge in starting 1191 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: a company and sustaining a company? Are you still there? 1192 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Is he still there? Are we lose him? Yeah? Okay, 1193 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: there we got you. We got you. So, so the 1194 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: question is as far as starting a company and sustaining 1195 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: and sustaining it, because you know, a lot of people 1196 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: have an idea to start it, um but great ideas 1197 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: don't always work. But what what do you think from 1198 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: because you're a successful business owner, what does it take 1199 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to really start a company and then sustain it. I've 1200 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: always perseverance. Perseverance, I think absolutely, you know. And I've 1201 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: always been that type of person. You know, if I 1202 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: if I uh couldn't get through the door, well then 1203 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I go through the wall, you know. And and that's 1204 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's well that's the way I've been since 1205 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: day one, you know, and even even today I'm a 1206 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: little bit older, but I'm the same way. You know 1207 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, I don't I don't like to uh 1208 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: be defeated. So you know, I pretty much go to 1209 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: any lengths that I have to, uh to stay in there. Listen. Times, 1210 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've been through a lot of tough times 1211 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and and Uh, you know, I've always been never to 1212 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: persevere through it, and I guess you know, I'm just 1213 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: not a quitter. I'm not a quitter. You know. You know, 1214 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: one thing I like about what you guys do there 1215 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: is you're very specific. And also your company is very 1216 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: specific in what you do, and you have branched, I mean, 1217 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: wanting to show over the years, I watch it since 1218 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: day one, you guys have uh, you've changed things a 1219 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 1: little bit, but you've you've always been very specific on 1220 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: what you create and uh, and you're the specific talent 1221 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: that you have that have you found that that's difficult 1222 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 1: to maintain specific because a lot of people get too 1223 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: broad and then they lose the vision that they had 1224 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: when they first started. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, 1225 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 1: I I think it's all about quality. Um, you know, 1226 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: we pride ourselves and uh and what we do, you know, 1227 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 1: and and you know it's sometimes you know, it's it's 1228 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: kind of tough when you're in a position that that 1229 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: we're in. You know, you have millions and millions and 1230 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 1: millions of people looking at you all the time. Everybody's 1231 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: not looking for the for the good stuff you do. 1232 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: They're always looking to criticize you. But I think that 1233 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: you know, it goes back to what I was talking 1234 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 1: about before, you know, and I and I think you know, listen, 1235 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: there's a lot involved in business. And I still believe 1236 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: that your word is the most important. I still and 1237 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: I go by that's still today, right, Yeah, that's that's 1238 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: a huge thing. It's been lost. I mean, I tell you, 1239 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: you fly a lot. I would amain, I have to 1240 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: fly quite a bit. And the airline industry is destroyed. 1241 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 1: There's no quality service and everything you just said does 1242 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 1: not exist in the airline industry anymore. That you're just 1243 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: you have to fly, so they give you a bare 1244 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: minimum and there's no it's not like they keep their 1245 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: word on anything. Uh listen, I do. I do fly 1246 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot. And and for all the years that we've 1247 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: been with Discovery Man, we flew everywhere, I mean everywhere 1248 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: everywhere in the world. And uh yeah, I agree, I 1249 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 1: I le hardily agree with what you're saying. Yeah, it's 1250 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 1: just yeah, I don't get it. You know, it's um well, 1251 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they got your track. Yeah, I mean you're paying you know, 1252 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: good money to fly and and you know, nobody listen, 1253 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I I was flying to I think it was, uh, 1254 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the Philippines and I and and first class and you 1255 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: know what, I asked for a bottle of water and 1256 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 1: they told me that, you know, when they get around 1257 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: to it, I'll get it. I'll get my water, you know. 1258 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 1: And it was like forty five minutes later they came 1259 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: with a bottle of water. So you know, wow, Yeah, 1260 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: that's now on many of these airlines. Yes, for a 1261 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: bottle of water is gonna cosh like nine dollars. I mean, 1262 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: it's it's absolutely ridiculous. But okay, so here here's the 1263 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: other things I want to ask you. And I think 1264 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: this is incredibly interesting from when I and one of 1265 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 1: the things I thought about when I wanted to interview 1266 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: is that you know, I'm I've been in the media 1267 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: now for about five years, um when I left the FBI, 1268 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: and because of Catherine Harriage on Fox News, I got 1269 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: into media. And it's interesting you're you're there's an EBB 1270 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: and fl for analysts in the media, and when you 1271 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: lose that spotlight, it's difficult on a lot of people. 1272 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I have, you know, other things in life that I'm 1273 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 1: doing as well, but with a reality show, the spotlight 1274 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: to succeed is on you and then and then for 1275 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: a while, you guys were gone. Um I'm not sure 1276 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: if that gave you time to relax and prepare or 1277 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 1: if it was longing to get back on there. But 1278 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: what is it like in life that most people don't 1279 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 1: understand about having a reality TV show? Does it? Is 1280 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: it difficult to live a normal life when everything's exposed 1281 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: like that? You know, it's it's extremely extremely um difficult. 1282 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, listen, it's it's kind of like any you know, 1283 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: anything that you do. You know, you got to take 1284 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the good with the with the bad. But you know, 1285 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you look at it like, I'm a blue collar guy, 1286 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I had a steal fabricating business 1287 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: and you know I did, but I had it too. 1288 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: But you know, we were also a overnight success. So 1289 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: you go from being a blue collar guy you know 1290 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 1: that you know, does his worked? I worked seven days 1291 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: a week even back then to this, all of a sudden, 1292 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: You're just overnight. You're you're we were overnight success. It's 1293 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 1: like okay, so you know, where do I how do 1294 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I how do I adapt to this? You know? So 1295 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: it was like you know, your throne if you can't 1296 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, swim and you're throwne into the water. That's 1297 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: that's what it was like. So it was it was 1298 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of people behind me, you know, 1299 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: it was kind of had a small business and it 1300 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, how do I adapt? And it was 1301 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: it was And listen, being a celebrity, you run, they 1302 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 1: need a microscope all the time, you know, and people 1303 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 1: people are not looking for the good you do. They're 1304 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: just looking for the negative stuff. So it becomes it 1305 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: becomes a battle, you know what I mean. And you know, 1306 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: as much as much as you try to do the 1307 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: right thing, your your people are always looking and they're 1308 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: always they will never give you credit for the good thing. 1309 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the disappointments and I 1310 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 1: guess being a celebrity, but there's a lot of gratitude 1311 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 1: in the two. I mean, I think to put you 1312 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 1: in a position where you could really make a difference 1313 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 1: in people's lives, and I think that that's like today, 1314 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that's that's what I look for, you know, if I 1315 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to change somebody's life. And listen, I 1316 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: feel fortunate at this stage of my life that I'm 1317 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah. You know when you say that, 1318 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,719 Speaker 1: it's like being thrown in a pool that you can't swim. 1319 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: I think for you it was like being thrown into 1320 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the Olympics in a pool where when you don't know 1321 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: how to swim, because you guys really went from from 1322 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,719 Speaker 1: zero to a thousand. And you know, having moved here 1323 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: from Arkansas via Virginia Beach and stuff. When I was 1324 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: in the military, um and I got to know a 1325 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: lot of blue collar, especially steel workers. You know, there's 1326 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,719 Speaker 1: a certain mentality of not being reserved. I mean, definitely 1327 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are not reserved, but they're 1328 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,680 Speaker 1: just good people. But their lives are very systematic. When 1329 01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: you're in that industry, you know, you work nine to five, 1330 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 1: you work fourteen hours, you do whatever you gotta do, 1331 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: and you go home. You have your family, and for you, 1332 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: it went from that, at least it appeared that it 1333 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,640 Speaker 1: went from that to something that was completely like your 1334 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll yea, yeah, to say the least, you know, 1335 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: it's um, yeah, it was. It was. It was quite 1336 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 1: an adaptation to be able to and you know the 1337 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: thing of it is is that it's kind of like 1338 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 1: what did they say, you take the boy out of 1339 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 1: the jungle. But you can't take the jungle out of 1340 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: a boy. So you know when you when you know, 1341 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, his limos picking you up, and 1342 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, you know, listen, first Limo that 1343 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: picked me up, I said, if you want, I'll drive, 1344 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 1: and I and I and I really meant it, you know, 1345 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: so you know, you know, you're not. It's such a 1346 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: totally different life. And and and again it's you. I 1347 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 1: kind of had to adapt to that overnight. And and 1348 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and it was probably the biggest challenge in my life. 1349 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 1: You know, you work, you work hard. Listen. We all 1350 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 1: like to make money, you know, and you work real 1351 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 1: hard to do that. And now you're in in the 1352 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: opposite position. You're trying to figure out how to capture that, 1353 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: you know. And it sounds simple, but it was, it was, 1354 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 1: It was quite it was quite a challenge. But do 1355 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: you steal You know, most people I know that that 1356 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 1: are in steelwork, they love steel, they love to work. 1357 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 1: And you were in metal fabrication and things. Is that 1358 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: still a big part of who you are? I mean, 1359 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: do you still enjoy that or do that or is 1360 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,719 Speaker 1: that done? You know, it's funny you say that because 1361 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm doing tomorrow morning, me and Mike. 1362 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 1: You're building railings tomorrow morning, iron railings. Yeah. So yeah, 1363 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 1: And you know, listen, it's all about the passion, you 1364 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and listen, ironwork is a 1365 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 1: tough business. You know, you're carrying steel and you're you know, 1366 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: in the summertime and you're roasting in the wintertime, you're 1367 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: a freezing But you know what, I loved it. And 1368 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: the reason why I love it is like the same 1369 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,560 Speaker 1: thing with building bikes. You know, you're starting off with 1370 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: a piece of metal and the next thing, you know, 1371 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: you put up a building. And the same thing with bikes. 1372 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 1: You're starting off with the piece of metal and then 1373 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got this beautiful bike. So 1374 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 1: there's always a reward in that, right right, Listen, stay 1375 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: with me if you would, Paul, We're gonna take a 1376 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: short break. I'm gonna come back. We're going to talk 1377 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: about your show real quick and how people can watch 1378 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: it now that it's back. I know it's already premiered, 1379 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: but just stay right there and find me on Twitter. 1380 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and I think it's a Paul. 1381 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out on Twitter that he's on Twitter 1382 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 1: and Instagram and everything. He's you know, he's all over 1383 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,840 Speaker 1: the place. Go find us on Twitter, on Instagram. I'm 1384 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan T. Gilliam on Instagram and YouTube and Facebook. And 1385 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And go get my book Sheep 1386 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 1: no More. You can order it while you're on the break. 1387 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Jonathan Gillham in for my good buddy, 1388 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity continue my conversation with the founder of Orange 1389 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: County Choppers from American Chopper, Paul Tuttle Senior and Paul 1390 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Real quick let's talk about the show is and how 1391 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 1: it compares to the way it was, well from when 1392 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: it first started, but from it's now started up again. 1393 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 1: And is it Is it on Discovery Channel? What channels 1394 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 1: it on? It's on Discovery Channel, and we're on at 1395 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: eight o'clock on Tuesday nights, and we lead in with 1396 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 1: a show before that usually the week before is on 1397 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: seven and then eight o'clock we start, you know, we 1398 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: do a new show. Did they at one point try 1399 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: to get you to move to Alaska and make Moonshine 1400 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 1: because it seems like every other show on Discovery is 1401 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: either about Alaska or Moonshine and see that are about 1402 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: that or there it's a family with there and what 1403 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: the father having his cut off shirt and yeah a 1404 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 1: must so is there? Is there a big difference in 1405 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the show now from before because I love the show before. 1406 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: I don't know why it went away, but I've always 1407 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: thought that the relationships were real, and you guys didn't 1408 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,719 Speaker 1: hold back. And I know enough people in reality TV 1409 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 1: to know what's real and what's not, and you guys 1410 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 1: always seemed real. No, And I honestly believe that we 1411 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: were the first real reality show because you really can't 1412 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 1: make that stuff up. But I think the difference now is, 1413 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's less drama. People don't really want to 1414 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: see too much of that drama anymore. But you know, 1415 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: for us, it's about really building cool bikes, you know, 1416 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: and bringing the company in a in a different direction 1417 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: with the bikes that we're building. We're building cool bikes, 1418 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, for me, that's what that's kind 1419 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 1: of what it was always all about, was building the bikes. Yeah, 1420 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I think you know, biker buildoff was big for a while, 1421 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: and then when you guys did the thing with h 1422 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: Jesse James and uh Paul Junior and you guys had 1423 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 1: and the guys from uh whatever it's called the garage guys. Yeah, 1424 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, the ratings were huge for those shows, and 1425 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: I think I think you're onto something because people really 1426 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 1: do love I mean that was the bottom line. We 1427 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 1: love seeing what you guys make and taking going through 1428 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: that process. Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, and I and 1429 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: I and you hear it more and more from people today. 1430 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the directions that we're going, 1431 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 1: we're doing a lot with our veterans and and uh, 1432 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, probably one of the coolest bikes that you're 1433 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 1: going to see this year, at least for me. Actually, 1434 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I think it's my my number one bike that we've 1435 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 1: built all through these years. We've built a bike for 1436 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 1: the travel in Vietnam Wallow that's just incredible, h incredible bikes. 1437 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 1: So you know, we've done stuff with Oscar Mike and 1438 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: so I think that we're getting more and more into them, 1439 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: the community um of veterans and and uh, you know, 1440 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just for us. It's the direction that 1441 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: we want to go in. Well, I love your theme 1442 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: bikes and I love watching you guys put together stuff 1443 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 1: and come up with the creativeness that's mixed in with steel. 1444 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 1: I love that because it actually shows what happens when 1445 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: you take something that's hard and then you you mold that. 1446 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: You know, and for those of us who are stubborn 1447 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and have it are hard aheaded it it shows almost 1448 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: like the growth of life. And every show when you 1449 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: guys create these things. Yeah you know, I you know 1450 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: it's your taking metal and your turner and into art. Yeah, listen, 1451 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 1: I gotta we gotta go here. And just to say 1452 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: I can, how do people find you on Twitter? Do 1453 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you know what your Twitter handle is? I don't even 1454 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: have Twitter. I thought you you're on Instagram. I know 1455 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 1: you're into Yeah. Okay, all right, I'll find it. I'm 1456 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,480 Speaker 1: gonna put it on my Twitter and on my Instagram 1457 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: so everybody has it. Ball Senior and Orange Candy Choppers. Okay, 1458 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 1: you got it. Tell Mikey and Paul Junior and the 1459 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 1: rest of the crew that we are glad that they're 1460 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: back on TV. And uh, smack Santos when you see 1461 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,640 Speaker 1: him because he needs it. Okay, he's hearing now. So 1462 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna reach over to fable. There you go. Brother, Hey, 1463 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 1: thank you very much. God bless you, Paul Senior. And 1464 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for coming on. This is 1465 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan gill I'm filling in from a good buddy, Sean 1466 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 1: Hannity on a Sean Hannity Radio show. Go get my 1467 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. 1468 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back. It's gonna be me and you 1469 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and I'll be taking your calls. Eight hundred and nine 1470 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: four one seven, three two six. This is Jonathan Gillham 1471 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 1: your residence, government servant. Well, it used to be, anyway, 1472 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm not anymore. I was never in the politicians field 1473 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 1: of whatever they call that service. Do you notice when 1474 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,240 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi was sworn in as Speaker of the House 1475 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: that she did not recite the oath. It was the 1476 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: guy who was ever given or the oath he said 1477 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing. All she said is I do like yeah. 1478 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 1: I found that very very strange, very strange. Whenever somebody 1479 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,640 Speaker 1: has an oath, they should say it themselves. So for 1480 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,240 Speaker 1: all those politicians that are out there, don't ever ever 1481 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 1: let somebody else say your oath and then say I 1482 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 1: do if I was going to get married, and that's 1483 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 1: the way they said, Oh, we'll read the vow and 1484 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: then you just say I do. I'd be like, no, no, no, 1485 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 1: that ain't happening. It's a contract. It's their contract with us. 1486 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look at it. The politicians don't even have 1487 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,640 Speaker 1: to go through anything to prove their worthiness, their effectiveness, 1488 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,440 Speaker 1: or whether or not they are going to be beholden 1489 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: to the Constitution. They don't prove anything. It's not like 1490 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: they go through boot camp. They convince you to elect them. 1491 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: That's what they do. And if they're not actually saying 1492 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 1: their oath of office, then they don't need to be 1493 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,680 Speaker 1: in that office. Most of them don't need to be 1494 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 1: in that office anyway. Listen, I want to tell you 1495 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: real quick before I get to the phone calls eight 1496 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one seven three two six. It's eight 1497 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: hundred and nine for one Sean. I want to tell 1498 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 1: you real quick, a buddy of mine reached out. You've 1499 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you've heard him or you've heard about Troops Direct on 1500 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: this show before. And Troops Direct is an incredible nonprofit company. 1501 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: What they do is they provide life saving and mission 1502 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 1: critical gear equipment to troops in the field. It's unbelievable. 1503 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying this because you know it's a company. 1504 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: They want me to point out some stuff about fundraisers 1505 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 1: that haven't I mean, there's people that have been the 1506 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: field that couldn't get stuff for a year from the government. 1507 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: These guys were able to get it to them in 1508 01:22:54,600 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 1: weeks and all that stuff is gotten through donations and money. 1509 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 1: They are having a fundraiser and it is going to 1510 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,440 Speaker 1: be in South Carolina. Will be held in Laurens, South Carolina, 1511 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: seventeenth to the nineteenth of May of this year. It's 1512 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: called Operator Weekend. Now, I'm just gonna break it down 1513 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: for you real quick. It's it's amazing. And if you 1514 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 1: go there and you donate, what you're gonna get is 1515 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the opportunity to interact with seals and 1516 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 1: people from the Special Operations community Green Berets Marine raiders, 1517 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to train side by side 1518 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 1: with them, and it's there. In some cases you may 1519 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: be able to even get the skydive with them. Now 1520 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to donate in order to get those things, 1521 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 1: but you're not You're probably not going to get this 1522 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: type of training anywhere else, You're not going to get 1523 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 1: this interaction anywhere else. And if it's like everything else 1524 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 1: that Troops Direct does, it's going to be pretty darn't amazing. 1525 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna come through and really provide an event that 1526 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 1: helps you get up and close and personal with these 1527 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 1: operators in the Special Forces community. So that's going to 1528 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 1: be in Laurens, South Carolina, seventeenth to the nineteenth of 1529 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 1: May of this year. And the way you find that is, 1530 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 1: and I'm looking over it right now, is contact Jake 1531 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Jones at Jake at troops direct dot org to enroll 1532 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: or just visit troops direct dot org forward Slash events 1533 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: and I think you'll be really happy if you can 1534 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: afford it and you can go down there. This is 1535 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: going to be big and it's gonna be h This 1536 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: is not going to be your normal fundraiser. This is 1537 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 1: gonna be something that's Abbey normal, extra normal. As all 1538 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: of the Special Forces community, we do things outside of 1539 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 1: the box. This is going to be outside the box. Now. 1540 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I want to go to your phone calls. Let's start off. 1541 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 1: We'll go top to bottom, because I think we need 1542 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 1: to get some phone calls in here. Let's go to 1543 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 1: Lynn in Los Angeles. Go ahead, Lynn, Hi, Jonathan, thanks 1544 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: for your service. I'm like your last caller. I'd love 1545 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 1: to get involved in promoting the Republican Party the GOP, 1546 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,760 Speaker 1: but going grassroots in Los Angeles where I live, you 1547 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 1: can basically expect political persecution. It's real. My friends and 1548 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: I realized we risk our livelihood, our safety, and maybe 1549 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: even having our cars trashed if we let on that 1550 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 1: we're conservatives and support President Trump's ideas and actions on 1551 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 1: behalf of this country. And I say that with a 1552 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,160 Speaker 1: heavy heart because I live in the free country, and 1553 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: yet I feel the sphere. It's really real, though, right. So, 1554 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 1: we had a caller earlier and she stayed. I think 1555 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 1: it was Trish, I think her name. I can't remember 1556 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: her name when she called earlier, but I said I 1557 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,679 Speaker 1: would bring this back up. And she runs a company 1558 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: in New Jersey and she felt the same way, you know, 1559 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and this is what this is the very thing that 1560 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 1: should empower, you know, fear. I know when we work 1561 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: with sources. When I was in the FBI, there's a 1562 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 1: couple of things that motivate a source right to give 1563 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 1: us great information. It's revenge. They want money or they're 1564 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: in fear, but there's also a third one because they 1565 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: want to do what's best for their country. And if 1566 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 1: you can combine, I don't want to I don't want 1567 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 1: to say combine fear and love of country. But the 1568 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 1: reality is your fear is a validation for the reality 1569 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: of what's going on you, regardless of what people tell you. 1570 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: And I have plenty of friends who are minorities that 1571 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,679 Speaker 1: are conservatives. You do not have to be a minority 1572 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 1: to be oppressed. Okay, that is something that the left 1573 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 1: wants you to believe. You can be a minority. You 1574 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 1: can and I don't really like to talk of color 1575 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 1: of skin or any of the stuff. You can be 1576 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 1: a minority or not and be oppressed if you're a conservative, 1577 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And in fact, it can 1578 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,719 Speaker 1: ruin your company, it can ruin your life, and especially 1579 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. So you kid me, Yeah, Ellie the Beast, 1580 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Hey, God bless you, Ane, Thank you very 1581 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:11,879 Speaker 1: much for your goal. So let's go to Rob in Stockton, California. 1582 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rob, Yes, I'm a school teacher and I 1583 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 1: am Heaven help you. Go ahead. Rom Yeah. Yeah, there's 1584 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,479 Speaker 1: a lot of students that don't want to be there, 1585 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 1: but it's free and they have to be there. And 1586 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,559 Speaker 1: my sphere is nobody's saying that when they make college free, 1587 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 1: that's how much it's going to be worth. A lot 1588 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: of students. They're gonna come to class because they can, 1589 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,639 Speaker 1: or somebody's gonna make them, and they're not gonna want 1590 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 1: to be there, and so college is just going to 1591 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 1: be another high school. Well that's the problems. Go ahead, 1592 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,360 Speaker 1: go ahead. I wish I wish I had more people 1593 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 1: saying something about that, because I know there's a lot 1594 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 1: of college teachers that are already getting kids from high 1595 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: school that are misbehaved and problems because they're just passing 1596 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 1: them through. But once college is free, I don't know 1597 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,400 Speaker 1: if I want to teach there with a bunch of 1598 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,719 Speaker 1: semi adults. We are getting getting sneed that's worth nothing 1599 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you're pointing 1600 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: this out because one of the things when we look 1601 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: at college and we look at the indoctrination that's happening 1602 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 1: in education, it's happening around the world. I've been talking 1603 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: about how global this whole thing is, and it's I 1604 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,559 Speaker 1: don't think it's a coincidence that's happening in many different countries. 1605 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 1: It's happening and the same thing is happening in many 1606 01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 1: different countries. And when it comes to you being a teacher, 1607 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about all these people living in fear. I 1608 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:44,800 Speaker 1: know teachers who literally cannot voice at all how they 1609 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,480 Speaker 1: feel about anything politically because they will either be ostracized 1610 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 1: or legitimately pushed out, and they're in a lot of 1611 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: cases their unions will not back them, and it is um. 1612 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: Here's the upside to this, I guess, rob is that 1613 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 1: they are exposing themselves. And like I was going to 1614 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 1: say the last caller, fear can be a great motivator, 1615 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 1: and but fear is really a validation for you to 1616 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 1: know that, man, this is real, right, it's real. But 1617 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 1: also these people are exposing themselves, and I think what 1618 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm taking away from these phone calls is that there's 1619 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,519 Speaker 1: enough of you to where even if we expose you, know, 1620 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: this meeting is going to happen here and we need 1621 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 1: people to show up there. If you all do it, 1622 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 1: if you all start coming together and having dialogue and 1623 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 1: walking together and using a lot of the tactics that 1624 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,839 Speaker 1: the left uses. I really do think that the voice 1625 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think it, I know it. The voice 1626 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 1: of the free will always be stronger than the voice 1627 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 1: of those who wish to oppress, and the voice of 1628 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: those who stand for freedom will always be mightier than 1629 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,639 Speaker 1: those who want to take the freedom away. The problem 1630 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: is when those people who are free don't do either 1631 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 1: one of those things, it makes it very easy easy 1632 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 1: for the others to do what they've got to do. 1633 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,920 Speaker 1: God bless you, Rob and all the teachers out there 1634 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 1: that are doing God's work, I mean, really doing the 1635 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: parents work a lot of the times, but they literally 1636 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: are in a position where they have to watch what 1637 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 1: they do and they are not free to express a 1638 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of the things. Let's go to Robert in San Antonio. 1639 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,640 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Robert, how you doing, sir? I'm doing good 1640 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 1: in yourself, not too bad. I'm a retired law enforcement 1641 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 1: author and I talk to the gentleman that had me 1642 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,959 Speaker 1: on hold earlier in reference to what's happening with our government, 1643 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 1: and one of the things we agreed on is so 1644 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,519 Speaker 1: they clean up the FBI and the Justice Department, we're 1645 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,639 Speaker 1: not going to see any kind of change. This fear 1646 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 1: that people are getting throughout this country is real and 1647 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 1: it's something that even officers that are working right now 1648 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: are aware of. And until we clean that up, it's 1649 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: going to be very difficult for us to actually not 1650 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: fear the government any long because the government has become 1651 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: a weapon. Well that's the See. One of the things 1652 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,439 Speaker 1: that you said there is that um things in the 1653 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 1: government have become weaponized. And the media in a lot 1654 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 1: of ways has been weaponized. Remember when we look at 1655 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 1: war and passed wars, propaganda was a huge weapon and 1656 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 1: it still is in warfare. It's a huge weapon. And 1657 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,240 Speaker 1: the way the media is being used by politicians, both 1658 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: on the left and right is for propaganda and uh, 1659 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 1: that is in and of itself. And when I when 1660 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 1: I spoke to at the Troopers Bridge Foundation in New Jersey, 1661 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,559 Speaker 1: one thing I talked about to them is that they 1662 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 1: must fight politics and how it has become a danger 1663 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 1: to them in doing their jobs. And you're exactly right, 1664 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: it's been weaponized. Politics has become weaponized. Yeah, What's what's 1665 01:31:55,160 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: the shame is President Trump. He doesn't have the acting 1666 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: within his own party to try to clean this mess up. 1667 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I know I've heard the word rhinos used over and 1668 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 1: over again. But it's really true. They lived to an 1669 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,720 Speaker 1: extent to keep the status quo, and then people have 1670 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 1: to start really speaking out to get things changed. Yeah, God, 1671 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,640 Speaker 1: bless you, brother, and thank you for your service to 1672 01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 1: this country, Robert. We really do appreciate it. And be 1673 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,679 Speaker 1: safe out there in San Antonio. Unfortunately, Texas is changing 1674 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,680 Speaker 1: faster than most people realize. Let's see, let's go to 1675 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Duyne in Ohio. Go ahead, Dwayne, Yes, sir, mister Gillham. 1676 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,599 Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking my call. You got it. I 1677 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 1: had to hang up earlier because my wife came home 1678 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,400 Speaker 1: with the groceries, and you know what you do when 1679 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 1: the boss gets home. You got to do what the 1680 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: boss says. That's right, that's right. So my point was 1681 01:32:55,080 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 1: that I think President Trump should pull mister Reagan you 1682 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:05,599 Speaker 1: know tactic and do a media blackout for three days 1683 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: before he does anything overseas. And that way the media, 1684 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 1: because they're so stupid anyway, they'll never know what he's 1685 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,200 Speaker 1: planning to do, and they won't find out until he 1686 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: gets back home three days later. So that's my point 1687 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 1: is the media is so ignorant and so stupid that 1688 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, they can't follow anything that the Democrats don't 1689 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: tell them to do. I agree, Listen, I agree with him. 1690 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this real quick that I think and 1691 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,519 Speaker 1: thanks for your call, Dwayne. I think that the President 1692 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,560 Speaker 1: should do away with the White House Press Corps. I 1693 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 1: what I did every night on social media. Why couldn't 1694 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 1: the President do that and do his briefings through social media? 1695 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,639 Speaker 1: Facebook Live and Twitter and YouTube. You could do it live. 1696 01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: People could sign up to ask questions. And not just 1697 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 1: the media. Who's the media, it's companies. Those are companies 1698 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 1: that spread information, a lot of times false information. They 1699 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,600 Speaker 1: have no more need to have a clearance than I 1700 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: do to get into the White House. Listen, let's take 1701 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,800 Speaker 1: a break real quick. We'll come back. I'm gonna finish 1702 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,439 Speaker 1: up the show and close this thing out. It's been 1703 01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 1: an amazing three hours. Man, it goes by fast. Go 1704 01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,719 Speaker 1: get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness 1705 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,679 Speaker 1: and Attack Survival. If you like the way I think 1706 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna like the way this book reads. I wrote 1707 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 1: it as though I was talking to my mom, so 1708 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 1: I could teach her not an operator's terms, but in 1709 01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:39,560 Speaker 1: the terms of effective procedures for targeting yourself and defending 1710 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 1: against those who might try to attack you. Sheep no more, 1711 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 1: the art of awareness and attack survival. We'll be right back. 1712 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 1: This is Jonathan Gillham. Listen, I only got a few seconds. 1713 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,719 Speaker 1: I want you all to go to your congressman today 1714 01:34:55,200 --> 01:35:00,360 Speaker 1: and insist that they sign a letter about Eddie gall Oigher. 1715 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 1: That's the Navy seal that has been imprisoned since get this, 1716 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 1: in September eleventh of last year, for allegedly killing an 1717 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: ISIS fighter. Yes, that's right, you heard me correct there. 1718 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 1: They need to go and look for Congressman Crenshaw's letter 1719 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,400 Speaker 1: that he's putting together. They need to do it today. 1720 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you call your congressman and get out there, 1721 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 1: and let's get Eddie at least released on pre trial 1722 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,799 Speaker 1: before he goes to trial. He's been in and basically 1723 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,919 Speaker 1: held since he was arrested. They rested him on September eleventh, 1724 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 1: so weird that they chose that day, held his kids 1725 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:40,479 Speaker 1: at gunpoint. This is NCIS and the leftist and I'm 1726 01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,599 Speaker 1: telling you these people in the DoD have gone nuts 1727 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,560 Speaker 1: to the left, have put together a case. It is 1728 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: full of lies and nonsense. So the Naval special warfare 1729 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 1: is not stepping up to the plate. So I want 1730 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 1: the American people to step up for Eddie Gallagher and 1731 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 1: insist that your congressman goes and signs that letter. It's 1732 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 1: John gill him. Go get my book, Sheep No More, 1733 01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and a Tax Revival. Remember, it's 1734 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,040 Speaker 1: up to you to come together. It's up to you 1735 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 1: to have dialogue. It's okay to be afraid, but you 1736 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 1: have to take action. Get off the couch, get together, 1737 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,919 Speaker 1: and let's start standing together America. Otherwise what's happening globally 1738 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: is going to continue to happen here. Lastly, go get 1739 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and 1740 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,720 Speaker 1: a Tax Revival. And wherever you see or hear me, 1741 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 1: the truth has arrived. Next time,