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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode sixty eight of
Speaker 1: Native Lampod and I'm gonna tell you why. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy because my co hosts are here in person with me,
Speaker 1: and for a change, they are in uniform. You know,
Speaker 1: they're always out of uniform.
Speaker 3: And finally for the disinformation, it's.
Speaker 4: A bomb everywhere.
Speaker 1: Thank you to doctor Yelvin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Well I gotta do the personal side.
Speaker 4: This is my mother in law or my mother in love,
Speaker 4: I say or, and you feel the sentence for me,
Speaker 4: help you, Doctor Caroline Yelding coming to us from the
Speaker 4: great city of Daphnet, Alabama. Down in Baldwin County, Alabama.
Speaker 4: Jay's mom. I love her not just because she's my
Speaker 4: mother in law. I love her as a human, just
Speaker 4: as a person. But she thought about it us as
Speaker 4: she watches every episode, maybe more than once, I'm not sure,
Speaker 4: just as my mother does you. I love love you, Tom.
Speaker 4: But when we did the whole nomination and you know,
Speaker 4: going for these awards, she was very kind to go
Speaker 4: and have these awesome sweaters made, y'all.
Speaker 3: I want to ask her, does she think I'm this color?
Speaker 3: I think you should have got.
Speaker 4: This, you know what. She didn't even say that.
Speaker 1: He just like randomly put.
Speaker 4: Him in a bag and mailed it. I didn't. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this is the same size.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, so ours were the same. He just mailed it.
Speaker 1: The thank you to your mother in law honestly, because
Speaker 1: we really appreciate it. Was so kind and it's that
Speaker 1: nice family and there all right. I don't want to
Speaker 1: keep the folks waiting because every week it's a jam
Speaker 1: packed show, and I just think that's what happens during
Speaker 1: this administration. They flood the zone and we are yet
Speaker 1: again to catch confetti. So what you got, Andrew?
Speaker 4: What we're talking about, Well, it's already been a while week.
Speaker 4: I know we won't spend a bunch of time on it.
Speaker 4: But once about Joy Reid, our good friend, and then
Speaker 4: of course from.
Speaker 5: The TV all well not yet, no, I'm saying, because
Speaker 5: we're happing with Joy.
Speaker 4: I'll messing with you. And then finally, would love to
Speaker 4: get into some of these budget numbers and this ridiculous
Speaker 4: package is the Republicans just past what you got in.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to talk about that budget too. I
Speaker 5: want to talk about what's going on on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about if Democrats in Congress should
Speaker 5: be going to the State of the Union to watch
Speaker 5: a fascist lie to you for an hour, or if they.
Speaker 3: Should be doing their own thing.
Speaker 1: YEA, that's a good question. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this week, Donald Trump met with his cabinet for the
Speaker 1: first time, and there was an uninvited guest I should say,
Speaker 1: an elected member of the cabinet at the cabinet meeting.
Speaker 1: And obviously I have a lot to say about my
Speaker 1: dear sister friend joy Reid leaving, so we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: And last week we promised you that we were going
Speaker 1: to talk about local elections. We got a great question
Speaker 1: on that, so we're going to get to you all
Speaker 1: your questions too. H So a jam packed show, stay tuned, guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we want to since we're gonna
Speaker 1: start with the budget. I remember you saying that you
Speaker 1: want to talk about medicaid, and I know I have
Speaker 1: questions for you about that, as you know, my mother's
Speaker 1: on medicaid, and I think you pulled some sound for us.
Speaker 1: So let's it's a dim pressor is that what it is?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Democrats how to press it right after or
Speaker 3: actually this was right before the budget vote? And also
Speaker 3: which part of the budget vote?
Speaker 5: Because there were some nonsense in bnanigans that happen, like
Speaker 5: what's really going on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 6: This is not a reality show, this is not a joke.
Speaker 6: This is not politics as usual. It's a matter of
Speaker 6: life and death, right, and so we will stand with
Speaker 6: the American people. Stand with them today, stand with them tomorrow,
Speaker 6: stand with them next week, stand with them next month,
Speaker 6: stand with them this year, stand with them next year.
Speaker 6: Stand with the American people. Until victory is one, this
Speaker 6: budget is defeated and America is restored. So it's our
Speaker 6: honor as House Democrats to be joined today by three
Speaker 6: incredible Americans whose quality of life depends on all of
Speaker 6: us stopping this reckless Republican budget, which is a betrayal
Speaker 6: of the American people.
Speaker 7: My name is Mary Beth Kofran, and I'm from Campton,
Speaker 7: North Carolina, where I'm still recovering from the devastation of
Speaker 7: Hurricane Colleen in September. I'm a proud member of a
Speaker 7: Mom's Rising and a prestentiate of Representative Chuck Edwards. I
Speaker 7: have custody of four of my grandchildren, ages ten, twelve, fifteen,
Speaker 7: and sixteen, as their parents couldn't care for them due
Speaker 7: to addiction, domestic violence, and homelessness. I'm here today to
Speaker 7: urge lawmakers to put families over billionaires and reject any
Speaker 7: cuts to.
Speaker 1: The program's club working families like mine rely on.
Speaker 8: Republicans in Congress are looking high and low for ways
Speaker 8: to pay for another round of tax handouts for billionaires
Speaker 8: like Elon Musk. Yes, and their eyes are locked.
Speaker 3: In on Medicaid.
Speaker 8: Millionaires and billionaires do not need any more handouts, and
Speaker 8: federal lawmakers should not be entertaining the thought of ripping
Speaker 8: healthcare away from millions of people like me in order
Speaker 8: to pay for this upside down tax plan. Virginia is
Speaker 8: one of nine states with automatic trigger language that says
Speaker 8: if the federal government goes back on its promise and
Speaker 8: reduces funding for Medicaid expansion even by one percent, then
Speaker 8: the entire program ends and everyone in the expansion population
Speaker 8: loses our health care. That is not only wrong as
Speaker 8: a matter of public policy, but it is also cruel.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a lot of questions for you.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciated the speakers who basically kept reiterating, you
Speaker 4: have a stereotype of who you think are the beneficiaries
Speaker 4: of this healthcare, but people like me. That first speaker
Speaker 4: began by saying, but people like me, And she was
Speaker 4: intentional with those words because I think as a constituent,
Speaker 4: she knows as well what they're trying to communicate, which
Speaker 4: is they think it's a bunch of broke black folk
Speaker 4: who make bad health decisions and consume far too much,
Speaker 4: you know, greasy food. But the statistics tell us that
Speaker 4: one in every five persons in this country is a
Speaker 4: beneficiary of Medicaid that's expansive across these United States, and
Speaker 4: of that fifth percent, four in ten children eight and
Speaker 4: ten children who are poor are recipients of this program, y'all.
Speaker 4: When it comes to our seniors who are in assistant
Speaker 4: living facilities, over sixty percent of them are relying on
Speaker 4: Medicaid to take care of the expenses associated with it.
Speaker 4: So what's crazy is is that those stealing from these
Speaker 4: people and taking away their health care is one thing,
Speaker 4: but now you're going to relocate that cost onto their children.
Speaker 4: So you're not going to talk about You're not talking
Speaker 4: about just elderly folks who are out of the system.
Speaker 4: Now you're taking parents out of the workplace, out of
Speaker 4: the school place, to now tend to needs that are
Speaker 4: no longer met by by the Medicaid coverage. This is
Speaker 4: a sham. They ought to be ashamed of themselves, but
Speaker 4: they are part of bey on shame right now.
Speaker 1: But here's my issue, Angela. I just feel like these
Speaker 1: people who are going to get harmed by this, they
Speaker 1: a lot of them voted for this. And so my
Speaker 1: challenge with this, even though I have people in my
Speaker 1: family who are going to be directly impacted by this,
Speaker 1: my challenge with these people. You wanted somebody else to
Speaker 1: feel that way, you know, you were fine for somebody
Speaker 1: else to make that sacrifice. The challenge comes when it
Speaker 1: knocks on your front door. And so now we're seeing,
Speaker 1: you know, clips of these town halls across the country
Speaker 1: where they're being impacted, and I just want to scream,
Speaker 1: what the F word did you think? I didn't say
Speaker 1: the actual word because your mother in law is watching,
Speaker 1: but honestly, I mean, with all my spirit, what the
Speaker 1: F did you think was going to happen, and shame
Speaker 1: on you for being okay with it happening to other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is remarkably frustrating.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, bringing in the spiritual component of this,
Speaker 5: we also can't wish harm on other people. Like I
Speaker 5: want people to learn their lesson, but I don't want
Speaker 5: them to be harmed, because I know them being harmed
Speaker 5: mean We're going to be harmed so much worse. So
Speaker 5: it's just like I wish that people would just consider
Speaker 5: their neighbors when they're considering who they're going to support.
Speaker 5: So when we talk about these programs that are going
Speaker 5: to be impacted for these tax cuts, we're talking an
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty billion dollar cut to Medicaid that
Speaker 5: goes to serve seventy two million people in this country.
Speaker 5: That's one in five Americans. Snap the Supplement on Nutrition
Speaker 5: Assistance program, We're talking a two hundred and thirty billion
Speaker 5: dollar cut, which helps forty two million.
Speaker 3: People, or more than one in eight Americans. And these
Speaker 3: are cuts that are going to adversely impact millions of
Speaker 3: children who didn't have anyone to go and vote or.
Speaker 5: Couldn't go vote for them, so they relied on everyone
Speaker 5: else to go and vote on their behalf. And I
Speaker 5: think that's the thing that we have to remember. So
Speaker 5: we were just looking up these numbers before we started
Speaker 5: the show. It's the top ten percent of income and
Speaker 5: earners in this country that we will be receiving a
Speaker 5: tax break. I think the irony here is the top
Speaker 5: ten percent only make two hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: There's some parts all over the country where that is
Speaker 5: rich in New York and DC and Seattle, in LA
Speaker 5: that is San Francisco. That's not enough to really make
Speaker 5: a dent in much. But for people who are just
Speaker 5: barely making it on minimum wage, a below livable wage job,
Speaker 5: and trying to make ends meet by relying on government assistance,
Speaker 5: I can only imagine the sister that talked about what
Speaker 5: would happen in Virginia if there was even a one
Speaker 5: percent cut. That eviscerates that program. And I think that
Speaker 5: we have to have we have to continue to educate
Speaker 5: people even when the thing doesn't knock get their front.
Speaker 3: Maybe compassion will knock at their friend door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but gets squeezed.
Speaker 1: I'm trying, damn p I, but honestly, we have to
Speaker 1: start feeling that way. I think a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1: I think you're right because a part of me is
Speaker 1: I'm stealing this from Dave Chappelle when he talked about
Speaker 1: how we're getting all because he said, we're getting a
Speaker 1: really good look at each other. And he said, you know,
Speaker 1: with the opioid crisis, like wow, we're really getting a
Speaker 1: good look at each other. Because he said, I look
Speaker 1: at these you know, white people, at these drugs, and
Speaker 1: I don't care either, you know. And he was talking
Speaker 1: about how they looked at our communities when we were
Speaker 1: being ravaged by cocaine, right exactly. And so we can't
Speaker 1: keep saying, well, white folks, y'all vote ward. That's what
Speaker 1: y'all get. You know. It's like.
Speaker 4: Beginning of time though since the beginning of time people
Speaker 4: have been civilization period that you look out for you,
Speaker 4: you first yours in your own and.
Speaker 1: Then be on for us because we get hurt the work.
Speaker 1: I completely get the benefit from and.
Speaker 4: My argument on the reason why public health ought to
Speaker 4: be public greater public policy for the nation is because
Speaker 4: your sickness can impact my well being. So for instance,
Speaker 4: you don't get measle shots or you know, you're an
Speaker 4: anti bax Or. You don't get those things, but your
Speaker 4: children are sitting next to mine in the schools. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so then I get sick. Are you coughing? You're
Speaker 4: not doing it the appropriate way and not coming so
Speaker 4: germs are are are moving through the through the through
Speaker 4: the air, and then I get sick. So it's one
Speaker 4: thing for you to make a decision, and you be
Speaker 4: the only person impacted by your bad judgment, if that's
Speaker 4: what we want to call it. But in this case,
Speaker 4: what you do directly impacts me completely.
Speaker 1: And I wonder when I'm looking at this budget, wonder
Speaker 1: how they want to pay for these things. I promise
Speaker 1: you I thought this was the most ridiculous thing this week.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has pretty much opened the gates to everybody
Speaker 1: who wants to come. All you need is five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Take a lesson million dollars. Take a listen.
Speaker 9: We're going to be selling a gold card. You have
Speaker 9: a green card. This is a gold card. We're going
Speaker 9: to be putting a price on that card of about
Speaker 9: five million dollars, and that's going to give you green
Speaker 9: card privileges. Plus it's going to be a rap to citizenship,
Speaker 9: and wealthy people will be coming into our country by
Speaker 9: buying this card. They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful,
Speaker 9: and they'll be spending a lot of money and paying
Speaker 9: a lot of taxes and employing a lot of people.
Speaker 9: And we think it's going to be extremely successful.
Speaker 1: So you know who has five million dollars? Embezzlers, drug dealers,
Speaker 1: people in child sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 3: Eighty eight failony count.
Speaker 1: Trump's right right, exactly.
Speaker 5: But the thing is, what I think that everyone needs
Speaker 5: to know is a mayor because for sale, Yes, America
Speaker 5: is for sale. What's happening right now is that there's
Speaker 5: not some revolution happening where you know Doge, where Doge
Speaker 5: is doging and like, and he's going in to find
Speaker 5: all these cuts. He's lying about the cuts he's finding.
Speaker 5: He's had to retract the things that he's finding. And
Speaker 5: Donald Trump is telling you on every side that this
Speaker 5: thing is for sale. Will you say, Clarence Thomas is
Speaker 5: a Ucci. It turns out America's now to Ucci, right,
Speaker 5: America's na Aahucci, And and the people who call him
Speaker 5: out on it are in harms way because he's decided
Speaker 5: he's going to be the chair or the de facto chair, well,
Speaker 5: the real chair of the Kennedy Center, the de facto
Speaker 5: chair of the FDC, the FCC, and the SEC. So
Speaker 5: now people that are regulated by the FCC, I don't know,
Speaker 5: Like our friend Joy reed.
Speaker 3: Right right now, all of a sudden, you're in harm's way.
Speaker 5: If you hold this administration accountable, you're on the chopping block.
Speaker 5: You will not be supported or uplifted by your network.
Speaker 3: You're they're going to turn the TV off on you.
Speaker 3: So we're going to turn the TV off on y'all and.
Speaker 4: Deciding who can cover you. Which that okay, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Crazy one when they take the Associated Press out of
Speaker 1: the White House.
Speaker 4: Then because they call Golf of Mexico Golf of.
Speaker 1: America, of America, right, which is utterly ridiculous. And the
Speaker 1: fact that he's controlling the FTC, FCC, SEC, we are
Speaker 1: f u C cade okay, because we are going to
Speaker 1: build a direct impact, and I do. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up Joy Angela because honestly, as as awful as
Speaker 1: this is, and as a double middle finger to the
Speaker 1: networks for not supporting her, I have to say a
Speaker 1: part of me breathes a bit of a sigh of relief.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about her being on air at this time.
Speaker 1: You know, if Joy were on air because Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and his minions.
Speaker 4: Of the States by Trump, yes, and say.
Speaker 1: That the right wing people. I've been attacked by right
Speaker 1: wing folks, Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, all those people, and
Speaker 1: the network did not offer me any support, any security.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they would have really honored and
Speaker 1: protected Joy. Read the way that she was disrespected by them,
Speaker 1: it's a great indication. Don't watch where you wouldn't be hired.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's h Yeah, turn off the TV.
Speaker 1: You're saying, turn the TV off. Like the Kendrick song
Speaker 1: after he said, must have what I really want to
Speaker 1: I hope we can dive in here for.
Speaker 3: Just a moment. Yeah, you guys.
Speaker 5: I have been so frustrated by the people who have said,
Speaker 5: why would you turn the TV off?
Speaker 3: When we still have people who look like us there.
Speaker 5: Who Well, there are people on every network, on every
Speaker 5: major network, on every major network, they're not like us.
Speaker 5: And I think, to me, we cannot be so self
Speaker 5: serving that we're self sabotaging what I want to make
Speaker 5: sure that we as a people understand right now, is
Speaker 5: that in order for you to survive and to maintain
Speaker 5: your voice, you gotta build your own.
Speaker 3: You just do so. I really believe our highest.
Speaker 5: Service, for your highest good is telling you you are
Speaker 5: not safe.
Speaker 3: You are not safe America, you are not safe. And
Speaker 3: anybody on a platform on a major network, you're not safe.
Speaker 3: You're actually next. If you're speaking truth to power, you
Speaker 3: are next.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I want to make sure that our folks know
Speaker 5: it's not about like or dislike, or if you say
Speaker 5: what I would say or not. I love you enough
Speaker 5: to say you are not safe. Start building your own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, turn the TV off, Like I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: make a caveat for if there's one program or the other,
Speaker 3: or if there's one commentator or the other.
Speaker 5: We are living in a fashions society. Yeah, that doesn't
Speaker 5: even make send to me. Go somewhere where you can
Speaker 5: tell the people the truth.
Speaker 4: They do make a difference to me. It does make
Speaker 4: a difference to me who the people are in, what
Speaker 4: position they occupy at a place I don't have the
Speaker 4: same reaction to, for instance, some of the other you know,
Speaker 4: one of the other cancelations that have taken place. The
Speaker 4: reason I take issue with this one is because Joy
Speaker 4: was living, doing, breathing, and putting out into the world
Speaker 4: for our own digestment the truth. She was the bringer
Speaker 4: of truth right on television, and there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of that. And the public, the public way in which
Speaker 4: they did what they did to Joy is a shot
Speaker 4: over the bow to anyone else who thinks that they
Speaker 4: may want to act free on TV. Don't get it.
Speaker 4: Twistedom is still in charge. They've never relinquished their power. Right,
Speaker 4: the corporate.
Speaker 5: Boardroom isn't in charge because they would do what makes
Speaker 5: sense for advertisers. What who is in charge is the
Speaker 5: de facto chair of the FCC. That is why Donald
Speaker 5: Trump would tweet her post on social media finally about Joy.
Speaker 5: They are trying to bend to the will of Trump, yes,
Speaker 5: because they think it makes business sense.
Speaker 4: They're also not being pressed very hard to do that bending.
Speaker 4: I mean some of them. He said, he blue glue,
Speaker 4: he blue. Then they were a house of cards and
Speaker 4: they came tumbling down, which also tells me, and we
Speaker 4: ought to be clear about this to your point around
Speaker 4: build your own bill, these folks are not invested in
Speaker 4: us at all. They're invested toward an end, and that
Speaker 4: end you best believe is going to be in their
Speaker 4: best interest, or they wouldn't be there.
Speaker 5: You're there and don't make sense to them anymore. You're
Speaker 5: there until you get unsafe for them. You're there until
Speaker 5: you make them uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Key, that's it.
Speaker 4: If youse any piece of what they feel that they
Speaker 4: have a credit to themselves, you're out and there's no
Speaker 4: second guessing it. If you take from me, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Andrew, I want to say this too, and Tiff,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw this piece, but
Speaker 5: our friend Ellie missed Out who's been on our show,
Speaker 5: wrote this amazing piece about Joy Reid and the nation.
Speaker 5: And what I appreciate about that piece so much is
Speaker 5: how earnest he was. He talked about feeling like he
Speaker 5: needed to cut his hair to be on TV, and
Speaker 5: Joy told him, no, you keep your beautiful black hair.
Speaker 5: He's like, obviously, it's great, but so she's talking about
Speaker 5: this AFRO and the other thing that he talked about
Speaker 5: was her making him feel like he was safe on
Speaker 5: air and that he didn't just have to come on
Speaker 5: to talk about black issues. He said, there aren't a
Speaker 5: lot of posts and folks like joy. That is one
Speaker 5: thing that we absolutely have to understand. And the other
Speaker 5: thing that I really want to say is people've got
Speaker 5: to know that in this environment, if you're going to
Speaker 5: get up and say you're speaking for the culture, no
Speaker 5: strings attached, No, no, what am I trying to say?
Speaker 5: No caveats like you're unabashedly yourself and you're an anchor
Speaker 5: at a host on one of those networks.
Speaker 3: It's just a lie. You have to Joy with herself.
Speaker 3: Like we'll attest to this, there are certain things they
Speaker 3: wouldn't let her cover, So don't act like what we're
Speaker 3: saying is far fetched. There are standards and practices, there
Speaker 3: are things that make this there plenty.
Speaker 1: Thing they literally would go comb through after Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: attack me, they would comb through my show. I was
Speaker 1: told I couldn't mention Tucker's name on my show before.
Speaker 1: There are stories that I couldn't cover. And the challenge is,
Speaker 1: I just want to take a second and say, this
Speaker 1: isn't even if you just take personality out of it,
Speaker 1: because it's not even this to anybody, But if you
Speaker 1: just look at that seven o'clock hour. This is a
Speaker 1: twenty four hour news channel. Okay, so god forbid there
Speaker 1: is breaking news in the seven o'clock hour, because there
Speaker 1: is not a single journalist who will be able to
Speaker 1: cover it. Let's just say that. The Lensky yields and says, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going and he's having a press conference. The NBC
Speaker 1: and MSNBC have split, so you're not going to a
Speaker 1: foreign correspondent. Now you are solo on that desk with millions,
Speaker 1: maybe millions by one, hundreds of thousands people watching, and
Speaker 1: you have to walk them through a very complicated set
Speaker 1: of what's happening on the Eastern Block. Your opinion, your
Speaker 1: commentating is so less important if you are not a
Speaker 1: bona fide journalist who has navigated a newsroom, who was
Speaker 1: aware of what's happening domestically and across the globe that
Speaker 1: you can walk your viewers who are tuning into you
Speaker 1: to trust you to do that. Joy would do that
Speaker 1: beautifully and brilliantly. She was able to give her opinion,
Speaker 1: and she was also able to inform people. I certainly
Speaker 1: tried to do that on my show. You know, every Saturday,
Speaker 1: and there was breaking news on Saturday mornings. Oh, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you had this whole show plan, but an apartment building
Speaker 1: just collapsed in Florida. We got to go to that
Speaker 1: reporter live. It takes training to know how to do that,
Speaker 1: to walk people through that, and they don't have it.
Speaker 1: So that says to me, not only do they not
Speaker 1: care about us, they don't care about none of y'all.
Speaker 1: They don't even care about the viewers. And that's not
Speaker 1: a diss to anybody like Michael Steele, he knows like
Speaker 1: cooll Alicia Mendez like she you know, she's my former coworker,
Speaker 1: So it's not a dis to either of them. But
Speaker 1: it's just a classic observation of what news has become.
Speaker 1: It has become entertainment. They have people on air discussing
Speaker 1: things they have no business. You have never worked in politics,
Speaker 1: you have never worked on a campaign, you've never covered
Speaker 1: a campaign, but you are on a political panel discussing
Speaker 1: domestic policy and foreign policy.
Speaker 4: I wish you felt the kind of way about it.
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of feeling a kind of way, I think
Speaker 5: the other thing that we got to address is this
Speaker 5: joint session that is normally a state of the Union
Speaker 5: if it's before March. But since this is going to
Speaker 5: be delivered on March fourth, at the invitation of somebody
Speaker 5: speaker Mike Johnson, Donald Trump is going to deliver a
Speaker 5: State of the Union address, and we're just talking about Joy.
Speaker 5: Joy will be sorely missed on that panel where she
Speaker 5: breaks things down. But at the same time, I'm worried
Speaker 5: about the objects of that chamber. I don't know what
Speaker 5: he's gonna say, but I know most of it's not
Speaker 5: gonna be true. I won't say I know, because you
Speaker 5: know they're a little litigious, Saul say, I will bet
Speaker 5: my bottom dollar that most.
Speaker 1: Of them, I mean, based on evidence before.
Speaker 5: But I think what I'm really wrestling with right now,
Speaker 5: y'all know, the CBC is where I grew up professionally,
Speaker 5: and I am hoping that the Congressional Black Caucus, that
Speaker 5: the Progressive Caucus, that the Hispanic CAUCAUS, that the KA,
Speaker 5: the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, and the Democratic Caucus
Speaker 5: overall do not go to sit to be lied too
Speaker 5: point hour and let a fashion tell him what he's
Speaker 5: gonna do.
Speaker 3: I really like, I cannot, I want to, I can't.
Speaker 5: I want to see a half empty change the old chamber.
Speaker 4: If they had any dignity about the offices that they hold,
Speaker 4: all four hundred and thirty five of them, yep, And
Speaker 4: they would never have extended an invitation to this man
Speaker 4: in the first place to come and speak before the
Speaker 4: first branch of government, the legislative, which existed before the executive.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't have had him come there. They have They
Speaker 4: lack self respect, they lack failty to the Constitution, and
Speaker 4: quite frankly, they can't be They can't be in any
Speaker 4: way respectful of their voters. As has been shown through
Speaker 4: these town hall meetings. Many of them are out of
Speaker 4: sync with the people who sent them there all because
Speaker 4: their only goal right now in life, it seems, is
Speaker 4: to have been the need of Donald Trump. But but, but,
Speaker 4: but I'm mad mostly at the entirety of the Congress,
Speaker 4: because when your branches attack, you fight back.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think he's gonna say.
Speaker 4: A bunch of lives for sure? Presume what do you.
Speaker 3: Think he's gonna like tout?
Speaker 4: The Grant said, gotten.
Speaker 1: I think that this is the thing about the United States,
Speaker 1: when when at this joint session, when he is speaking,
Speaker 1: he's not just speaking to that chamber. He's not just
Speaker 1: speaking to America, He's speaking to the globe. And I
Speaker 1: think his global message is America first, America strong, we
Speaker 1: are dominating. So he will present a fantastical imagery of America,
Speaker 1: which we know something about, just a fallacy of what's
Speaker 1: happening here. So I think he's going to present an
Speaker 1: image of strength. He's going to talk about even though
Speaker 1: he got his ass handed to him with with these turfs.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to tout that as though it's
Speaker 1: a victory. I think he's going to tout all of
Speaker 1: these draconian policies he's introduced to executive orders that the
Speaker 1: Republican Caucus has greased the wheels for him to usher through.
Speaker 1: He's going to tout this budget. I think he will
Speaker 1: attempt to show some muscle with China. I think he
Speaker 1: will genuflect to putin the fact that he has completely
Speaker 1: reversed US policy on the war in Ukraine. And this
Speaker 1: is one you're listening, Angela, and Andrew just got in
Speaker 1: a fist fight.
Speaker 4: Throw it down.
Speaker 1: He's reverse the US policy. So I wonder if there
Speaker 1: were Republicans in the Chamber will stand up and applaud that.
Speaker 3: Of course they will.
Speaker 1: They've been they've been speaking out against that. Well, that's
Speaker 1: not our policy, and it's like, yeah, but y'all gonna
Speaker 1: be the knee.
Speaker 4: I don't think he will go substantively into it. I
Speaker 4: think he will say I think he will harp on
Speaker 4: the mineral rights and the fact we've got a bargain
Speaker 4: or a deal that is upcoming. But the substance of
Speaker 4: that fight, of that Russia's war against Ukraine is that
Speaker 4: he won't give it the time of day because it
Speaker 4: it will not sell to any to the majority of
Speaker 4: Americans ears the story that he wants to tell about Ukraine.
Speaker 4: I think he sees it as a transaction, a deal,
Speaker 4: money to be made. This dude is so let's see
Speaker 4: like a gangster. Yes, he's dealing with God as the
Speaker 4: as if he's a gangster, Like, Hey, you give us
Speaker 4: fifty percent of your country richest mineral rights, then we'll
Speaker 4: talk about this whole securing you from Russia.
Speaker 3: So let me let me, let me do that.
Speaker 5: This Why haven't the Republicans said much about how fraud
Speaker 5: sweeping these executive actions are? Like this man, Now, not
Speaker 5: only are the executive actions broad sweeping. But as of
Speaker 5: well when we recorded this podcast yesterday, he has violated
Speaker 5: He was told he violated court orders.
Speaker 3: Three different courts.
Speaker 5: In an hour and a half told him he was
Speaker 5: in violation. I haven't heard any Republicans speak up to
Speaker 5: say something about it. So not only are they bending
Speaker 5: like bowing down, bending the knee, all of that being
Speaker 5: rubber stamp, they're also not pushing back on things that
Speaker 5: we can the legislative branch.
Speaker 4: If they won't defend themselves, they're definitely not going to
Speaker 4: push back against this executive exertion of executive power. Problem
Speaker 4: is is that this is a genie you will not
Speaker 4: put back in the bottle. When that power is it
Speaker 4: is given to the presidency, future presidents perceive it as
Speaker 4: their power to and they'll point to their predecessors exercise
Speaker 4: of it as being legitimate for their exercise of it.
Speaker 5: This is the but their lack of pushback is also
Speaker 5: weakening the judicial brand.
Speaker 4: But they don't share I understand. Do I think they
Speaker 4: believe in the in the principle of co equal unless
Speaker 4: a Democrat is in the White House.
Speaker 5: Or one of the branches a Democrat in the White House,
Speaker 5: They're like you're actually lesser than us.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, I think they will. They speak with
Speaker 4: fork tongue and they act with fork tongue.
Speaker 3: But even the idea that tongue is I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yes, even the idea that this week we saw three
Speaker 1: separate judges, you know, hold the line. I just again
Speaker 1: will keep reiterating, I do not think the courts are
Speaker 1: going to hold you know. I do think we are
Speaker 1: looking at the judiciary erode.
Speaker 4: And if it rose, then we are looking at an
Speaker 4: all powerful executive and the idea of checks and balances
Speaker 4: will cease to exist any longer. Because if the legislative
Speaker 4: branch cannot hold accountable and can't defend their turf, and
Speaker 4: can't make the president do anything because his principle, what
Speaker 4: will throw us into the crisis system saying send your
Speaker 4: army to enforce it, and yourself, the legislature, you send
Speaker 4: your army to enforce how I spend this money?
Speaker 5: So, Andrew, I got to ask him this to this's
Speaker 5: an elected official question. Andrew, you are the only one
Speaker 5: here who's been an elected office. Right now, it's a
Speaker 5: hot debate on Capitol Hill on whether or not any
Speaker 5: city Democrats should go to the State of the Union.
Speaker 3: Would you go to the State of the Union.
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 4: I really I would not, but I would, But I
Speaker 4: would have also been off the boat several weeks ago
Speaker 4: to appropriateness, decorum, bestowing the normal respects of the office.
Speaker 4: And why do I say that the moment that the
Speaker 4: President decided that he was going to approach upon the
Speaker 4: legislative branch's ability to manage the country's purse, and he
Speaker 4: decided money that was passed and signed into law that
Speaker 4: he will withhold, redirect, demolish entire departments. You've now come
Speaker 4: on our side. You've crossed that red line, and the
Speaker 4: only way it gets held is that we will draw
Speaker 4: your agenda to a close before you've even gotten started,
Speaker 4: until you recognize this difference and reinstate what has been
Speaker 4: passed under law.
Speaker 5: So, based on what you're hearing, the American people say,
Speaker 5: Democrats aren't doing enough, They're not holding the line, they're
Speaker 5: not doing da da da. Somebody posted the other day
Speaker 5: this is mild tangiment, not much. Somebody posted the other day,
Speaker 5: it's interesting that a moment ago they were just two
Speaker 5: sides of the same. But now you know exactly where
Speaker 5: to go to call on for help. Absolutely, And I
Speaker 5: was like, that's a really good point.
Speaker 3: Should Yeah, Leonard, who you know.
Speaker 5: I fight with bout stuff all the time, was like,
Speaker 5: but that shouldn't mean that they can't be held accountable.
Speaker 5: So to that end, the people in Democrats districts and
Speaker 5: Democratic districts, when they're saying I don't see you fighting
Speaker 5: for me, you seem like this as politics as usual.
Speaker 5: What do you think they're getting wrong? And what would
Speaker 5: you say to Democrats on the hill to do differently?
Speaker 4: I said that Donald Trump talks and acts with four tongue.
Speaker 4: The Democrats are appearing to act with four tone, which
Speaker 4: means this is the greatest threat to democracy. On one hand,
Speaker 4: but on the next hand, y'all skinning and grinnin the
Speaker 4: evening's reception. There's photos of you all acting like the
Speaker 4: day didn't happen and yesterday didn't happen. So if you
Speaker 4: want the American people the public to believe you what
Speaker 4: you say, then I need to believe that she believe it.
Speaker 4: And if when I look at you, you don't look
Speaker 4: like you believe what you just told me, or else
Speaker 4: you would have comported yourself differently. People aren't stupid, not
Speaker 4: by a mile. They may not understand the mechanations of
Speaker 4: the process all the way through, but they know what
Speaker 4: truthful looks like. They know what a lie is, whether
Speaker 4: it's spoken or whether they visually observe it. So I
Speaker 4: just think where we are failing, where the party is failing,
Speaker 4: where democratic leadership is failing is not, and where their
Speaker 4: heart is and where their advocacy is and where they
Speaker 4: would have come down on these issues. Where we are
Speaker 4: failing at is you're communicating that we are in our
Speaker 4: last days, but you're acting like it's just another day
Speaker 4: on the job.
Speaker 1: That'day, can we practice something that we said we were
Speaker 1: gonna do it?
Speaker 4: We didn't.
Speaker 3: You didn't give us. We didn't know we were ready
Speaker 3: yet know because it's look okay.
Speaker 4: You supposed to do it.
Speaker 3: Wait okay, but tif so Andrew answered as elected official,
Speaker 3: elected official advising like colleagues, when you look at what's happening,
Speaker 3: I know regularly you're saying, I am overwhelmed by this
Speaker 3: is too much, Like I think it's already too late.
Speaker 3: What do you expect for people that you paid as
Speaker 3: a taxpayer. Some of you may have voted for some
Speaker 3: you may have support another way. Some of you may
Speaker 3: have just platformed because you agree with them on one
Speaker 3: issue but not everything else. Or you disagree with them,
Speaker 3: but just in the role they're in.
Speaker 5: What are you expecting for them, Like, what is the
Speaker 5: thing they need to do that is markedly different than
Speaker 5: what they're doing right now? I mean the Democrats, well,
Speaker 5: unless you talk we want to talk about Republicans what
Speaker 5: they need? No, I mean because honestly, people have asked
Speaker 5: me this before, and I'm like, if you say Democrats
Speaker 5: to me, if you say midterms to me, like, I
Speaker 5: don't I because to me, the system is part of
Speaker 5: the problem. The infrastructure of this system is part of
Speaker 5: the problem. I am not interested in repairing, restoring, working
Speaker 5: with the Democratic Party. I am only interested in harm
Speaker 5: reduction for the people. And if that means.
Speaker 1: Obliterate, blow up this whole system to rebuild something new,
Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that. Don't dis anybody. But I'm
Speaker 1: okay if the Democratic Party falls completely like because then
Speaker 1: that means then we have to build something new. And
Speaker 1: as you've often reminded us, Angela, white supremacy is bipartisan
Speaker 1: and so I think that right, I think the message
Speaker 1: that they took from these last elections were is, you know,
Speaker 1: we were messing around with these in words and the
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, and the the trans community, and you know,
Speaker 1: all the other people of color, and we need to
Speaker 1: go back and try to get these white conservatives again,
Speaker 1: Like they just have such a hard on for that group.
Speaker 1: They didn't walk away and think, Oh, we should have
Speaker 1: drilled down. We should have danced harder with the folks
Speaker 1: who brung us. We should have given the up and
Speaker 1: coming voter, the aspirational voter, something to latch onto. You know,
Speaker 1: we should have inspired them. We should have led with
Speaker 1: our convictions. They didn't do that. They walked the middle
Speaker 1: of the road and became political roadkill. So I am
Speaker 1: not so interested in uplifting them. I am completely open
Speaker 1: to ideas. Angela's leading the charge for us to try
Speaker 1: to figure out ways for us to work together to
Speaker 1: make sure that all people are not subject to the
Speaker 1: harm that's gonna come out of this administration. And I
Speaker 1: gotta tell y'all, you watch the Game of Thrones, you'll
Speaker 1: understand it's gonna be the long night, Like this is
Speaker 1: not going to be a bad four years and then
Speaker 1: we go back. I think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a long night of generation devastation for us. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that I look at the Dems for that,
Speaker 1: but I want you to see me and you bias.
Speaker 1: I want to know your opinion on this too. I
Speaker 1: think if you were so ed of the rest of
Speaker 1: Black calou because I know you would tell them, no,
Speaker 1: don't go. Absolutely yeah, I would say I would do
Speaker 1: a couple of things. One is, I would tell them
Speaker 1: to platform their guests, so you know the state at
Speaker 1: the City of the Union for those watching at home
Speaker 1: or listening at home or wherever you listen for.
Speaker 3: Those who don't know this.
Speaker 5: At the State of the Union, members of Congress normally
Speaker 5: bring a guest with them, and their guest is normally
Speaker 5: central to something that's happening right now. So I'm sure
Speaker 5: a lot of the members are going to be bringing
Speaker 5: federal workers who were laid off or who took the payout,
Speaker 5: you know, a kid or yes, a kid who I
Speaker 5: don't even know what the other side be doing. That'd
Speaker 5: be like I brought somebody that arrested the last time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely a January sixth partner. And then also
Speaker 5: I brought the one, this this man from ice who
Speaker 5: sorry about his accent, but that's what came to me.
Speaker 5: I brought this man from eyes who put that last
Speaker 5: illegal who broke all them laws, and go on town
Speaker 5: to obay and you're gonna celebrate it. But the Democrats
Speaker 5: will likely bring someone who's been impacted by these crazy cuts,
Speaker 5: and so I would tell them, don't just bring them
Speaker 5: and put them in a press release. Go somewhere else
Speaker 5: and put them in position for the world to hear
Speaker 5: their stories, because and tell people hear how these things
Speaker 5: impact humanity one story at a time. People just don't care.
Speaker 5: They're aloof they're overburdened by all the crazy news. It's
Speaker 5: just like whatever, it's too much. I'm like tip drinking
Speaker 5: out five. I'm just overwhelmed. So we have to figure
Speaker 5: out a way to cut through the overwhelm. And I
Speaker 5: think the only way you do that is with empathy.
Speaker 5: You have to tap into people's empathy. And I'm just
Speaker 5: I got a hold on the hope because if I don't,
Speaker 5: I'll die. The people still have that, and I think
Speaker 5: the last thing I would say is definitely don't go.
Speaker 3: And wherever you go, I.
Speaker 5: Think you either wear a red because it's a code red,
Speaker 5: or you wear black because it is the funeral.
Speaker 4: Of democracy solemn.
Speaker 5: You know, I say people gonna watch, don't I don't
Speaker 5: know that people are gonna watch.
Speaker 4: I think there will be folks who absorb it because
Speaker 4: of the entertainment value.
Speaker 1: You talk about the social media.
Speaker 4: But but Donald Trump is a performer and a lot
Speaker 4: of folks follow him to go to the show. They
Speaker 4: want to see the show. What what I hope that
Speaker 4: Democrats who would do is not seed all of the time. Yes,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump takes to up a lot of space. But
Speaker 4: if people don't hear what the alternative view and vision is,
Speaker 4: they'll drink from a you know, a mirage because somebody's
Speaker 4: offering something. But if you're not offering anything, people won't
Speaker 4: quote you, hook line, sinker on your policy. But when
Speaker 4: you're explaining what it is that you're intending to do,
Speaker 4: they're gonna get a feeling. And that feelings are going
Speaker 4: to be this guy's looking out for me and he
Speaker 4: sees me, or this dude's on another planet. He's not
Speaker 4: for us, he's not like us, he's not whatever is.
Speaker 4: Voters make those decisions in a moment's time, right, but
Speaker 4: all the time with elected officials with their quote unquote
Speaker 4: leaders and so I just we have to believe what
Speaker 4: we're saying, and if we believe it, then we got
Speaker 4: to act like we believe it.
Speaker 5: I wonder if some of this is psychological, like if
Speaker 5: well me, I mean like the inability to respond, like
Speaker 5: oh my god, Like for me, I'm just like my
Speaker 5: humanity is like, oh my god, this can't be happening,
Speaker 5: Like this really can't be happening, Like we might lose
Speaker 5: every platform, ability to communicate with people. We need to mobilize,
Speaker 5: Like they're like, we really could be in a really,
Speaker 5: really bad situation, Like we are in the best situation,
Speaker 5: but it can get much much worse. So I think
Speaker 5: some of what they're doing cycle it's like a subconscious
Speaker 5: If I treat this as.
Speaker 3: Normal, maybe you don't go back to normal. Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: just get through this budget reconciliation.
Speaker 1: Process we're gonna have.
Speaker 4: They're responding like the average American is allowed to respond.
Speaker 4: But when you sit at the helm and you'll look
Speaker 4: to for leadership, when your moment of leadership shows, you
Speaker 4: better be there to meet it. And unfortunately, I think
Speaker 4: you know people have gotten the wrong idea around what
Speaker 4: public service is and what you're actually there to do.
Speaker 4: That they're putting their tea leaves, you know, their finger
Speaker 4: up to the wind, see which way is going, and
Speaker 4: then that informs how it is you choose to show up.
Speaker 4: I think, or you have the pedestrian instinct where the
Speaker 4: attacks are coming from so many places. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: go turtle, and when I come out of it, it
Speaker 4: will it will be different. That is a survival mechanism.
Speaker 4: We have that as humans as as as umo sapiens.
Speaker 4: But leaders have to exercise something different. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: you won't be reacted by what happens, and you won't
Speaker 4: have a very human reaction, but your rebound time that'll
Speaker 4: be a hell of a lot quicker because we don't
Speaker 4: have days times hours to waste to figure out a
Speaker 4: message or to get over your hurt feeling. Because the
Speaker 4: activists are demanding you do more. They're afraid it's the
Speaker 4: people too.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is on this I want people
Speaker 3: at home who are watching to know Andrew is not
Speaker 3: just former former elected official, He's also a former organizer
Speaker 3: and a damn good one. He started his solo pods
Speaker 3: this week, and his solo pod was on how to organize.
Speaker 3: He's gonna do a whole.
Speaker 5: Because we don't know how y'all gonna be able to
Speaker 5: organize at home, but he's gonna make sure that you
Speaker 5: have all the tools and.
Speaker 4: The ones that are in your lane. You're uncomfortable this
Speaker 4: way there. We want to unvelop the multitude of ways
Speaker 4: in which you can get but there will be no excuses.
Speaker 1: He's on one speaking of because you're talking about organizing
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are concerned about, like what
Speaker 1: do you do with the grassroots. We got a great
Speaker 1: question that we didn't get to last week, and we
Speaker 1: promised we'd get to that this week. So thank you
Speaker 1: for your question. Let's roll the question on a local
Speaker 1: elections because I thought that was a really good one.
Speaker 10: Hey, Native Lampard, my name is Andrea. I am in
Speaker 10: Fort Worth, Texas, originally from Cleveland, Ohio, shout out to
Speaker 10: the land, but living in Fort Worth for about nine
Speaker 10: years now.
Speaker 3: And my question is this.
Speaker 10: The city of Fort Worth is the fastest growing city,
Speaker 10: the fourth largest city in Texas and the twelfth largest
Speaker 10: city in America. Our local elections are coming up this
Speaker 10: means city council, mayor, and the school board. And my
Speaker 10: question is what should our asks, what should our demands
Speaker 10: be of our locally elected officials to impact change and
Speaker 10: reduce the harm that's going on in Washington, d C.
Speaker 10: Is there anything that we can ask of our locally
Speaker 10: elected officials, so our city council, our mayor, school board.
Speaker 1: I love, love, love that question, and I think this
Speaker 1: is a great panel to answer that question. Andrew. I
Speaker 1: want to come to you on this because I think
Speaker 1: your best position to answer this, but I just want
Speaker 1: to give the audience a little context about why this matters. So,
Speaker 1: voter turnout in local elections is actually really small, and
Speaker 1: not just I hate when people say off election years,
Speaker 1: because there are never any off election years. There are
Speaker 1: always elections happening. So voter turnout in the United States
Speaker 1: is much lower anywhere than any other than most other countries.
Speaker 1: So we have around sixty percent voter participation in presidential elections,
Speaker 1: forty percent in mid term elections, and turnout sores up
Speaker 1: to ninety percent in countries with mandatory voting, and reaches
Speaker 1: around seventy percent in overall developed countries. So we are
Speaker 1: lagging behind and we're seeing suffering the consequences of that now.
Speaker 1: After decades of political polarization, jerry mandering, voter suppression, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Most of the people elected now did not face a
Speaker 1: competitive election. So this is I've looked at an analysis,
Speaker 1: as the New York Times did, and this is just
Speaker 1: on Congress. More than nine thousand congressional and state legislative
Speaker 1: primaries elections were held last year. On average, just fifty
Speaker 1: seven thousand people voted for politicians in the US House
Speaker 1: primaries who went on to win the general election. So
Speaker 1: that means a small fraction of the more than seven
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans. Each of those winner now represents that
Speaker 1: tiny bucket, so we're going through minority rule. Addition, precisely
Speaker 1: a third of the current members of the House, this
Speaker 1: Congress that we're dealing with right now ran unopposed in
Speaker 1: their primary, so they didn't even have someone to run
Speaker 1: against them. The lawmakers who do face primaries, as you
Speaker 1: all have witnessed bore witness to, they are partisan hacks,
Speaker 1: They are right wing extremists, they are magacultists.
Speaker 3: And so those people actually.
Speaker 1: Find a path I e. Marjorie Taylor green Ie Lauren Bobert.
Speaker 1: They find a path to have a direct impact on
Speaker 1: what our life looks like. Only fifteen to twenty seven
Speaker 1: percent of voters across the country cast a ballot for
Speaker 1: their local elections in twenty eighteen, and that number has
Speaker 1: continued to go down. Voter turnout in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: for elections was the second highest for a non presidential
Speaker 1: election year, because I think people were you know, it
Speaker 1: was coming off of your COVID, people were inside. But
Speaker 1: my point is this is still talking about right, and
Speaker 1: this is talking about congressional elections. When you get to
Speaker 1: city council and for work, they're over thirty five people
Speaker 1: running for the city council for a ten city seat.
Speaker 1: The numbers of people who cast ballots for that are
Speaker 1: even fewer. So my point is that is where you
Speaker 1: have a unique opportunity to make your needs and you're
Speaker 1: once heard because you're dealing with a smaller pool of people,
Speaker 1: and you can be the loudest voice in the room
Speaker 1: to make sure those candidates hear you. I worked on
Speaker 1: a campaign in Baltimore, and there's an extremely high number
Speaker 1: amount of returning citizens who live in the state of Maryland,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of the formally incarcerated individuals who
Speaker 1: prefer to be referred to as returning citizens. They're so
Speaker 1: powerful in number that if you're running for the City
Speaker 1: of Baltimore, you have to pass through them. They hold
Speaker 1: a candidate's forum and it's very organized and they are active,
Speaker 1: and so I really appreciate that and honor that. But
Speaker 1: to her question, because I don't want to go, you've answered.
Speaker 4: It and beautifully.
Speaker 1: The value to ask, well, that was where I kind
Speaker 1: of fall back.
Speaker 4: Ask for what you feel helps to create the beloved
Speaker 4: community for you and the people who you care about
Speaker 4: in love. And if that means school's being funded at
Speaker 4: equity equitable levels for your kids and the kids who
Speaker 4: live on the other side of the tracks and the
Speaker 4: folks who are on the opposite side of that, then
Speaker 4: that becomes your demand and that power is the movement.
Speaker 4: If it is environmental justice that you mad that the
Speaker 4: majority minority neighborhoods don't have grocers grocery stores with healthy
Speaker 4: food options and the same, then that becomes the thing
Speaker 4: that you go and you do. But I will tell
Speaker 4: you it isn't just your local, you know, garden variety issues.
Speaker 4: It's also we have the tenth Amendment to the Constitution
Speaker 4: that carves out the rights of states, and within states
Speaker 4: the jurisdictions and municipalities they'rein appertaining who also have their
Speaker 4: own set of rights. And so if you and your
Speaker 4: community wanted to say we're going to be a sanctuary place,
Speaker 4: or we're excited as going to do reparations, and we
Speaker 4: value diversity and inclusion in the city because we all
Speaker 4: do better from it, those are all values that can
Speaker 4: be stated, advocated, done, and become local law.
Speaker 5: And states might be our last hold out. You didn't
Speaker 5: give up on the court. States might be it. And
Speaker 5: speaking of holdout, we ain't got no more time to
Speaker 5: hold out. Soder Now Podcast, we gotta wrap it and
Speaker 5: then we're gonna get time.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, welcome, welcome, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1: Or a final question, Oh yeah, we do have this,
Speaker 1: maybe we should answered if you were a question on
Speaker 1: the mini pod our mini pods drop once a week,
Speaker 1: so be sure to well, just check it'll be dropping.
Speaker 3: Out new series on Monday.
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Speaker 1: have cts, I have a CCA. Okay, here's my CTA.
Speaker 1: When you're in public, I don't want to hear your
Speaker 1: phone conversation. Please use your ear butts. Like I hate
Speaker 1: when people are walking down and you're like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: saying it was gonna be boo boo boo boom. Please,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind.
Speaker 4: I would like. I don't like it. That's how you
Speaker 4: hear the whole. I mean people are walking through grocery stores.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 1: My call to action is use your ear butts. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you know it's walking through. I
Speaker 1: just don't like it. That's my only one.
Speaker 5: I call to action is if you don't answer text
Speaker 5: messages or phone calls, Tiffany Andrew, you don't.
Speaker 3: Get to have no damn.
Speaker 4: It. Just in my own time.
Speaker 5: Action for y'all and for the people at home is
Speaker 5: tell your members of Congress don't go sit there behind
Speaker 5: in that chamber on Tuesday to watch the State of
Speaker 5: the Union.
Speaker 3: That's my call to action. I really want to talk
Speaker 3: about Jamal Oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, so on the mini pod, we didn't get a
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