WEBVTT - America For Sale 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.280 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.920 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.600 Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode sixty eight of 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:12.760 Native Lampod and I'm gonna tell you why. I'm so 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.639 happy because my co hosts are here in person with me, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.200 and for a change, they are in uniform. You know, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.079 they're always out of uniform. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.280 And finally for the disinformation, it's. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.840 A bomb everywhere. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.640 Thank you to doctor Yelvin. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.800 Yeah, oh yeah, Well I gotta do the personal side. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.640 This is my mother in law or my mother in love, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.839 I say or, and you feel the sentence for me, 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.360 help you, Doctor Caroline Yelding coming to us from the 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:50.560 great city of Daphnet, Alabama. Down in Baldwin County, Alabama. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.040 Jay's mom. I love her not just because she's my 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.160 mother in law. I love her as a human, just 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.040 as a person. But she thought about it us as 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.640 she watches every episode, maybe more than once, I'm not sure, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.080 just as my mother does you. I love love you, Tom. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.360 But when we did the whole nomination and you know, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.399 going for these awards, she was very kind to go 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.560 and have these awesome sweaters made, y'all. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.440 I want to ask her, does she think I'm this color? 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.639 I think you should have got. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.560 This, you know what. She didn't even say that. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.720 He just like randomly put. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.560 Him in a bag and mailed it. I didn't. I 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.560 was like, oh, this is the same size. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.480 No, yeah, so ours were the same. He just mailed it. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.360 The thank you to your mother in law honestly, because 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.760 we really appreciate it. Was so kind and it's that 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:51.360 nice family and there all right. I don't want to 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.840 keep the folks waiting because every week it's a jam 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.040 packed show, and I just think that's what happens during 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.560 this administration. They flood the zone and we are yet 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.560 again to catch confetti. So what you got, Andrew? 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.520 What we're talking about, Well, it's already been a while week. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.280 I know we won't spend a bunch of time on it. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.600 But once about Joy Reid, our good friend, and then 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.200 of course from. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:16.080 The TV all well not yet, no, I'm saying, because 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.080 we're happing with Joy. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.120 I'll messing with you. And then finally, would love to 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.680 get into some of these budget numbers and this ridiculous 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.079 package is the Republicans just past what you got in. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.720 Well, I want to talk about that budget too. I 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.680 want to talk about what's going on on Capitol Hill. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.640 I want to talk about if Democrats in Congress should 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.680 be going to the State of the Union to watch 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.120 a fascist lie to you for an hour, or if they. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.000 Should be doing their own thing. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.200 YEA, that's a good question. I want to talk about 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.360 this week, Donald Trump met with his cabinet for the 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.760 first time, and there was an uninvited guest I should say, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:54.200 an elected member of the cabinet at the cabinet meeting. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.120 And obviously I have a lot to say about my 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.960 dear sister friend joy Reid leaving, so we'll get into that. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.040 And last week we promised you that we were going 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.000 to talk about local elections. We got a great question 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.360 on that, so we're going to get to you all 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.720 your questions too. H So a jam packed show, stay tuned, guys. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.480 So yeah, I think we want to since we're gonna 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.200 start with the budget. I remember you saying that you 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.400 want to talk about medicaid, and I know I have 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.880 questions for you about that, as you know, my mother's 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.200 on medicaid, and I think you pulled some sound for us. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.800 So let's it's a dim pressor is that what it is? 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.639 Yeah? So Democrats how to press it right after or 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.720 actually this was right before the budget vote? And also 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.040 which part of the budget vote? 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.560 Because there were some nonsense in bnanigans that happen, like 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.040 what's really going on Capitol Hill. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.480 This is not a reality show, this is not a joke. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:50.040 This is not politics as usual. It's a matter of 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.960 life and death, right, and so we will stand with 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.320 the American people. Stand with them today, stand with them tomorrow, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.120 stand with them next week, stand with them next month, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.920 stand with them this year, stand with them next year. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.480 Stand with the American people. Until victory is one, this 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:18.840 budget is defeated and America is restored. So it's our 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.520 honor as House Democrats to be joined today by three 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:28.200 incredible Americans whose quality of life depends on all of 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:33.080 us stopping this reckless Republican budget, which is a betrayal 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.400 of the American people. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.200 My name is Mary Beth Kofran, and I'm from Campton, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.760 North Carolina, where I'm still recovering from the devastation of 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:47.200 Hurricane Colleen in September. I'm a proud member of a 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:53.279 Mom's Rising and a prestentiate of Representative Chuck Edwards. I 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:58.599 have custody of four of my grandchildren, ages ten, twelve, fifteen, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.479 and sixteen, as their parents couldn't care for them due 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:08.320 to addiction, domestic violence, and homelessness. I'm here today to 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.360 urge lawmakers to put families over billionaires and reject any 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:13.000 cuts to. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:17.359 The program's club working families like mine rely on. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.080 Republicans in Congress are looking high and low for ways 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:29.360 to pay for another round of tax handouts for billionaires 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.360 like Elon Musk. Yes, and their eyes are locked. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.200 In on Medicaid. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:41.080 Millionaires and billionaires do not need any more handouts, and 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:46.720 federal lawmakers should not be entertaining the thought of ripping 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.000 healthcare away from millions of people like me in order 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.760 to pay for this upside down tax plan. Virginia is 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:01.640 one of nine states with automatic trigger language that says 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.840 if the federal government goes back on its promise and 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.839 reduces funding for Medicaid expansion even by one percent, then 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:14.640 the entire program ends and everyone in the expansion population 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:21.120 loses our health care. That is not only wrong as 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.760 a matter of public policy, but it is also cruel. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:27.279 Wow. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.200 Yeah, I had a lot of questions for you. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.880 Well, I appreciated the speakers who basically kept reiterating, you 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.119 have a stereotype of who you think are the beneficiaries 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.880 of this healthcare, but people like me. That first speaker 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.240 began by saying, but people like me, And she was 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.520 intentional with those words because I think as a constituent, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.080 she knows as well what they're trying to communicate, which 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.800 is they think it's a bunch of broke black folk 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.080 who make bad health decisions and consume far too much, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.120 you know, greasy food. But the statistics tell us that 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.640 one in every five persons in this country is a 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:11.120 beneficiary of Medicaid that's expansive across these United States, and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:17.760 of that fifth percent, four in ten children eight and 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:23.760 ten children who are poor are recipients of this program, y'all. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.800 When it comes to our seniors who are in assistant 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.320 living facilities, over sixty percent of them are relying on 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.440 Medicaid to take care of the expenses associated with it. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.400 So what's crazy is is that those stealing from these 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:38.920 people and taking away their health care is one thing, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.280 but now you're going to relocate that cost onto their children. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.400 So you're not going to talk about You're not talking 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.800 about just elderly folks who are out of the system. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.920 Now you're taking parents out of the workplace, out of 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.560 the school place, to now tend to needs that are 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.240 no longer met by by the Medicaid coverage. This is 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.320 a sham. They ought to be ashamed of themselves, but 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:00.960 they are part of bey on shame right now. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.080 But here's my issue, Angela. I just feel like these 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.680 people who are going to get harmed by this, they 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.880 a lot of them voted for this. And so my 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.920 challenge with this, even though I have people in my 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.880 family who are going to be directly impacted by this, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:23.120 my challenge with these people. You wanted somebody else to 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.320 feel that way, you know, you were fine for somebody 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.200 else to make that sacrifice. The challenge comes when it 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.120 knocks on your front door. And so now we're seeing, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.560 you know, clips of these town halls across the country 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.480 where they're being impacted, and I just want to scream, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.240 what the F word did you think? I didn't say 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.079 the actual word because your mother in law is watching, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.760 but honestly, I mean, with all my spirit, what the 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.920 F did you think was going to happen, and shame 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.720 on you for being okay with it happening to other people. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.319 Yeah, yeah, it is remarkably frustrating. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:09:00.040 I think, you know, bringing in the spiritual component of this, 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.800 we also can't wish harm on other people. Like I 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.320 want people to learn their lesson, but I don't want 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.360 them to be harmed, because I know them being harmed 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.080 mean We're going to be harmed so much worse. So 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.520 it's just like I wish that people would just consider 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.280 their neighbors when they're considering who they're going to support. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 So when we talk about these programs that are going 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.319 to be impacted for these tax cuts, we're talking an 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.760 eight hundred and eighty billion dollar cut to Medicaid that 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.120 goes to serve seventy two million people in this country. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:38.720 That's one in five Americans. Snap the Supplement on Nutrition 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.600 Assistance program, We're talking a two hundred and thirty billion 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.400 dollar cut, which helps forty two million. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:49.199 People, or more than one in eight Americans. And these 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.720 are cuts that are going to adversely impact millions of 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:59.079 children who didn't have anyone to go and vote or. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.520 Couldn't go vote for them, so they relied on everyone 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.080 else to go and vote on their behalf. And I 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.520 think that's the thing that we have to remember. So 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.640 we were just looking up these numbers before we started 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.960 the show. It's the top ten percent of income and 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.920 earners in this country that we will be receiving a 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.760 tax break. I think the irony here is the top 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.560 ten percent only make two hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.600 There's some parts all over the country where that is 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.600 rich in New York and DC and Seattle, in LA 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.760 that is San Francisco. That's not enough to really make 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.560 a dent in much. But for people who are just 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.079 barely making it on minimum wage, a below livable wage job, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.959 and trying to make ends meet by relying on government assistance, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.560 I can only imagine the sister that talked about what 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.760 would happen in Virginia if there was even a one 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.320 percent cut. That eviscerates that program. And I think that 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.960 we have to have we have to continue to educate 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.920 people even when the thing doesn't knock get their front. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.800 Maybe compassion will knock at their friend door. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.720 Yeah, but gets squeezed. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:11.000 I'm trying, damn p I, but honestly, we have to 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.000 start feeling that way. I think a lot of people don't. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.000 I think you're right because a part of me is 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.640 I'm stealing this from Dave Chappelle when he talked about 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.640 how we're getting all because he said, we're getting a 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.000 really good look at each other. And he said, you know, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.080 with the opioid crisis, like wow, we're really getting a 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.160 good look at each other. Because he said, I look 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.200 at these you know, white people, at these drugs, and 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.640 I don't care either, you know. And he was talking 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.440 about how they looked at our communities when we were 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:44.360 being ravaged by cocaine, right exactly. And so we can't 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.800 keep saying, well, white folks, y'all vote ward. That's what 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.160 y'all get. You know. It's like. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.199 Beginning of time though since the beginning of time people 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.200 have been civilization period that you look out for you, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.640 you first yours in your own and. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.280 Then be on for us because we get hurt the work. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.360 I completely get the benefit from and. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.120 My argument on the reason why public health ought to 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.280 be public greater public policy for the nation is because 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:18.160 your sickness can impact my well being. So for instance, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.400 you don't get measle shots or you know, you're an 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.080 anti bax Or. You don't get those things, but your 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.360 children are sitting next to mine in the schools. Yeah, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.520 and so then I get sick. Are you coughing? You're 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.360 not doing it the appropriate way and not coming so 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.319 germs are are are moving through the through the through 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.000 the air, and then I get sick. So it's one 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.080 thing for you to make a decision, and you be 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.120 the only person impacted by your bad judgment, if that's 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.360 what we want to call it. But in this case, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.040 what you do directly impacts me completely. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.720 And I wonder when I'm looking at this budget, wonder 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.280 how they want to pay for these things. I promise 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.600 you I thought this was the most ridiculous thing this week. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.360 Donald Trump has pretty much opened the gates to everybody 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.640 who wants to come. All you need is five million dollars. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.319 Take a lesson million dollars. Take a listen. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:13.680 We're going to be selling a gold card. You have 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.360 a green card. This is a gold card. We're going 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.520 to be putting a price on that card of about 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.880 five million dollars, and that's going to give you green 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.920 card privileges. Plus it's going to be a rap to citizenship, 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.520 and wealthy people will be coming into our country by 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.199 buying this card. They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.840 and they'll be spending a lot of money and paying 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.880 a lot of taxes and employing a lot of people. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.920 And we think it's going to be extremely successful. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:45.280 So you know who has five million dollars? Embezzlers, drug dealers, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.240 people in child sex trafficking. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.400 I guess. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.679 Eighty eight failony count. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.480 Trump's right right, exactly. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.840 But the thing is, what I think that everyone needs 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.960 to know is a mayor because for sale, Yes, America 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.200 is for sale. What's happening right now is that there's 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:09.040 not some revolution happening where you know Doge, where Doge 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.920 is doging and like, and he's going in to find 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.160 all these cuts. He's lying about the cuts he's finding. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.400 He's had to retract the things that he's finding. And 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.360 Donald Trump is telling you on every side that this 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.040 thing is for sale. Will you say, Clarence Thomas is 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.440 a Ucci. It turns out America's now to Ucci, right, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.520 America's na Aahucci, And and the people who call him 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.800 out on it are in harms way because he's decided 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.760 he's going to be the chair or the de facto chair, well, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.120 the real chair of the Kennedy Center, the de facto 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.600 chair of the FDC, the FCC, and the SEC. So 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.840 now people that are regulated by the FCC, I don't know, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.600 Like our friend Joy reed. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.360 Right right now, all of a sudden, you're in harm's way. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.920 If you hold this administration accountable, you're on the chopping block. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.960 You will not be supported or uplifted by your network. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.480 You're they're going to turn the TV off on you. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.440 So we're going to turn the TV off on y'all and. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.160 Deciding who can cover you. Which that okay, that's incredible. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.000 Crazy one when they take the Associated Press out of 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.880 the White House. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:19.440 Then because they call Golf of Mexico Golf of. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.320 America, of America, right, which is utterly ridiculous. And the 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.080 fact that he's controlling the FTC, FCC, SEC, we are 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.240 f u C cade okay, because we are going to 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.240 build a direct impact, and I do. I'm glad you 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.960 brought up Joy Angela because honestly, as as awful as 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.480 this is, and as a double middle finger to the 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.040 networks for not supporting her, I have to say a 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.480 part of me breathes a bit of a sigh of relief. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.960 I'm concerned about her being on air at this time. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.400 You know, if Joy were on air because Donald Trump 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.680 and his minions. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.680 Of the States by Trump, yes, and say. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.200 That the right wing people. I've been attacked by right 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.880 wing folks, Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, all those people, and 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.680 the network did not offer me any support, any security. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.720 I don't know that they would have really honored and 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.600 protected Joy. Read the way that she was disrespected by them, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.880 it's a great indication. Don't watch where you wouldn't be hired. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.520 So I don't think it's h Yeah, turn off the TV. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.960 You're saying, turn the TV off. Like the Kendrick song 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:32.640 after he said, must have what I really want to 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.160 I hope we can dive in here for. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.000 Just a moment. Yeah, you guys. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:40.680 I have been so frustrated by the people who have said, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:42.960 why would you turn the TV off? 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.440 When we still have people who look like us there. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.520 Who Well, there are people on every network, on every 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:56.040 major network, on every major network, they're not like us. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:01.160 And I think, to me, we cannot be so self 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.080 serving that we're self sabotaging what I want to make 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.399 sure that we as a people understand right now, is 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.400 that in order for you to survive and to maintain 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.680 your voice, you gotta build your own. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.960 You just do so. I really believe our highest. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.360 Service, for your highest good is telling you you are 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:23.080 not safe. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.119 You are not safe America, you are not safe. And 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.119 anybody on a platform on a major network, you're not safe. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.800 You're actually next. If you're speaking truth to power, you 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:33.600 are next. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:34.200 Yeah. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.439 So I want to make sure that our folks know 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.800 it's not about like or dislike, or if you say 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.919 what I would say or not. I love you enough 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.200 to say you are not safe. Start building your own. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:47.440 Yeah, I agree with that. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.439 And yeah, turn the TV off, Like I'm not gonna 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.120 make a caveat for if there's one program or the other, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.920 or if there's one commentator or the other. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.440 We are living in a fashions society. Yeah, that doesn't 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.479 even make send to me. Go somewhere where you can 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:02.639 tell the people the truth. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.359 They do make a difference to me. It does make 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.240 a difference to me who the people are in, what 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.399 position they occupy at a place I don't have the 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.679 same reaction to, for instance, some of the other you know, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.720 one of the other cancelations that have taken place. The 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.040 reason I take issue with this one is because Joy 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:29.000 was living, doing, breathing, and putting out into the world 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:34.479 for our own digestment the truth. She was the bringer 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:39.280 of truth right on television, and there's not a lot 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.920 of that. And the public, the public way in which 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.920 they did what they did to Joy is a shot 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.680 over the bow to anyone else who thinks that they 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.320 may want to act free on TV. Don't get it. 0:18:54.359 --> 0:19:00.199 Twistedom is still in charge. They've never relinquished their power. Right, 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:01.480 the corporate. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.920 Boardroom isn't in charge because they would do what makes 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.640 sense for advertisers. What who is in charge is the 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.080 de facto chair of the FCC. That is why Donald 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.880 Trump would tweet her post on social media finally about Joy. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.400 They are trying to bend to the will of Trump, yes, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.000 because they think it makes business sense. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.800 They're also not being pressed very hard to do that bending. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.359 I mean some of them. He said, he blue glue, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.919 he blue. Then they were a house of cards and 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.720 they came tumbling down, which also tells me, and we 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.520 ought to be clear about this to your point around 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.439 build your own bill, these folks are not invested in 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.600 us at all. They're invested toward an end, and that 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.680 end you best believe is going to be in their 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.480 best interest, or they wouldn't be there. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.320 You're there and don't make sense to them anymore. You're 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.359 there until you get unsafe for them. You're there until 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.760 you make them uncomfortable. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.000 Key, that's it. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.720 If youse any piece of what they feel that they 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.560 have a credit to themselves, you're out and there's no 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.880 second guessing it. If you take from me, you. 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.240 Know, Andrew, I want to say this too, and Tiff, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.199 I don't know if you guys saw this piece, but 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.400 our friend Ellie missed Out who's been on our show, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.280 wrote this amazing piece about Joy Reid and the nation. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.679 And what I appreciate about that piece so much is 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.000 how earnest he was. He talked about feeling like he 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.399 needed to cut his hair to be on TV, and 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.880 Joy told him, no, you keep your beautiful black hair. 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.960 He's like, obviously, it's great, but so she's talking about 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.000 this AFRO and the other thing that he talked about 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.280 was her making him feel like he was safe on 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.199 air and that he didn't just have to come on 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.199 to talk about black issues. He said, there aren't a 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.880 lot of posts and folks like joy. That is one 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.680 thing that we absolutely have to understand. And the other 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.960 thing that I really want to say is people've got 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.720 to know that in this environment, if you're going to 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.879 get up and say you're speaking for the culture, no 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.880 strings attached, No, no, what am I trying to say? 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.840 No caveats like you're unabashedly yourself and you're an anchor 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.240 at a host on one of those networks. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.520 It's just a lie. You have to Joy with herself. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.399 Like we'll attest to this, there are certain things they 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.480 wouldn't let her cover, So don't act like what we're 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.600 saying is far fetched. There are standards and practices, there 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.719 are things that make this there plenty. 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.960 Thing they literally would go comb through after Tucker Carlson 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.000 attack me, they would comb through my show. I was 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.320 told I couldn't mention Tucker's name on my show before. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.520 There are stories that I couldn't cover. And the challenge is, 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.960 I just want to take a second and say, this 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.199 isn't even if you just take personality out of it, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:43.520 because it's not even this to anybody, But if you 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.520 just look at that seven o'clock hour. This is a 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:52.000 twenty four hour news channel. Okay, so god forbid there 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.000 is breaking news in the seven o'clock hour, because there 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.560 is not a single journalist who will be able to 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.960 cover it. Let's just say that. The Lensky yields and says, Okay, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.240