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Speaker 1: for it, would you put forth any effort? The answer

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Speaker 1: for a lot of you is no, And I don't

431
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Speaker 1: blame you. That's okay if that's the case. And to

432
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Speaker 1: be clear, those streaming giants' names have entered the equation.

433
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Speaker 1: If that's the case, that's probably not good territory. So

434
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Speaker 1: Dennis Dodd's latest report, which I think was released yesterday,

435
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: sort of detailed what they may stand to profit if

436
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Speaker 1: they were to partner with any of a number of

437
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Speaker 1: possible suitors that have been floated out there, and the

438
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Speaker 1: numbers I'm telling you, even though as of today, some

439
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Speaker 1: folks have gone on record with Dennis and said otherwise.

440
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, point blank, if the price points that

441
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Speaker 1: Dennis Dodd have spelled out recently are anywhere close to

442
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Speaker 1: the average per year that those universities would get, which

443
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Speaker 1: is around twenty five million dollars they're done, that lags

444
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Speaker 1: about fifty million dollars per school per year behind what

445
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Speaker 1: big ten institutions would be getting. Let me translate that

446
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Speaker 1: for you. The University of Illinois, the University of Indiana

447
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: would be a fifty million dollars per year richer outfit

448
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: than the University of Oregon because of the sticker they

449
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Speaker 1: have on their helmet. Now again, I need to reiterate,

450
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Speaker 1: in the interest of full disclosure. I think one of

451
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Speaker 1: the Arizona schools, either president's or ads, was on the

452
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Speaker 1: record with Dennis just today saying, Hey, the numbers, while

453
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Speaker 1: we may not get what we wanted, it's going to

454
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Speaker 1: be enough to keep the conference together. I don't believe that,

455
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: just point blank. And you know as well as I do.

456
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: If you follow this stuff, everyone seings the right tune

457
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: right up in the news breaks that they're out, So

458
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Speaker 1: that means nothing to me. And it also leads me

459
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Speaker 1: to ask a number of questions. I mean, Jesse put

460
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Speaker 1: together a very very detailed graphic. Actually, it's on your

461
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Speaker 1: screen right now if you're listening on podcast. It's the

462
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Speaker 1: top ten PAC twelve games via TV ratings last year.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean, Washington, Oregon was the most viewed game at

464
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Speaker 1: three point six million viewers. Just to give you an idea,

465
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Speaker 1: that's a rivalry game. Now, that's one of the biggest

466
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Speaker 1: games in the PAC twelve. I think Michigan Ohio State

467
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Speaker 1: did something like seventeen mil. And so you're also talking

468
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Speaker 1: about a PAC twelve in the future that removes USC

469
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Speaker 1: and UCLA, so you remove it even more of the

470
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Speaker 1: value than they currently have. I don't like where we

471
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Speaker 1: are now, Okay, So that's all negative. There's no good news.

472
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Speaker 1: I just gave you a few things to keep in mind.

473
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Speaker 1: Number One, very few people know the full picture here.

474
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Speaker 1: So it could be Binger's cross. Does I utter this sentence.

475
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: It could be that George Klavekoff and the power players

476
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: on the West Coast do have an ace in their

477
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Speaker 1: back pocket. I hope they do unselfishly. Actually, I hope

478
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Speaker 1: they do. The second possibility that I floated the other night,

479
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to float it to you again. Is

480
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Speaker 1: there could be an interested third party out there that

481
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Speaker 1: views the PAC twelve through a different prism than you

482
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Speaker 1: and I, or maybe even ESPN or Fox or CBS, etc. See,

483
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: if you work for a media company, you view them

484
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Speaker 1: strictly through the lens of how much is that inventory

485
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Speaker 1: worth to us? How much can we sell advertising against

486
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Speaker 1: that to get our money back and then make a profit.

487
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Speaker 1: That is the media rights world at the end of

488
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Speaker 1: the day. But if I'm an interested third party and

489
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Speaker 1: I have tons of money at my disposal, and I

490
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Speaker 1: need a marketing machine behind whatever it is I do,

491
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Speaker 1: you can just fill in the blank whatever it is

492
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Speaker 1: I do peyt State Entertainment, for example, I'm flush with

493
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Speaker 1: cash and I look at the PAC twelve and they're

494
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Speaker 1: into stress out there, and all these TV partners are

495
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Speaker 1: sitting over here on the other side of the river saying,

496
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Speaker 1: we'd love to have you. We'd love to have you, guys,

497
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Speaker 1: We're just not willing to cross the river and risk

498
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Speaker 1: losing money in the effort to have you. If I'm

499
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Speaker 1: rich enough to build the bridge, the TV partners are

500
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Speaker 1: more than happy to carry the games. It's just that

501
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: it would look like I'm lighting money on fire, and

502
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I would be if I was in the strictly transactional

503
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: business of paying you what your games are worth. But

504
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: if I take an early loss on fitting the bill,

505
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: so these TV networks and partners can carry your games.

506
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: But I think the marketing apparatus that comes along with

507
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: me essentially buying your conference is worth it in the

508
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: long run. For me, that is something that could be explored.

509
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Speaker 1: If you need to see an example of this, look

510
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Speaker 1: at what, oh, I don't know, Big twelve commissioner Brett

511
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: Yormark once did with Sprint and NASCAR. Yeah, they didn't

512
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Speaker 1: always call that thing the Sprint up long ago. It

513
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: was the Winston Cup. It became the Sprint Cup for

514
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: a reason. So you can research that children on your

515
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: own time. I don't know why I clapped. A third

516
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: thing to keep in mind is if the worst were

517
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: to happen here, that means we have more realignment chaos coming,

518
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Speaker 1: And I've got to be blunt with you. I think

519
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: that's the most likely scenario because as of airtime tonight,

520
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: we have not heard back from any billionaires, and so

521
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: no one thus far has taken us up on our

522
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: ideal or idea of sort of being the eleventh hour angel.

523
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: There has been no George Knox visit to the mound

524
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: to tell Tony Danza you got an angel what you're

525
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: right now, and he's going to help you. I don't

526
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: think that's happening. There is not an angel in the

527
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Speaker 1: outfield scenario, at least in the cards as I see it.

528
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Speaker 1: So the most likely scenario is, all of a sudden,

529
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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve as you know it crumbles, and you

530
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: may already say, Josh, isn't that happening? USC and UCLA

531
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Speaker 1: are gone. Well, you're kind of right, But as of

532
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Speaker 1: the moment, they are trying to all to you that

533
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: they can stay afloat without those two. I don't know

534
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: that they can. And in the meantime, you just got

535
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Speaker 1: the Big ten sitting there. You just got the Big

536
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: twelve sitting there, and they're looking at those Arizona schools,

537
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: or in the Big ten's case, you may be looking

538
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: at Washington or Oregon. And look if they head east figuratively,

539
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: they're not getting a full cut of that Big ten pie.

540
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: But you just heard the numbers I floated from Uncle

541
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Dennis even if you don't get a full cut. Would

542
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: you rather have one hundred percent of twenty five million

543
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: or would you rather have sixty percent of eighty million?

544
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: I had stats and Info run the numbers, and it

545
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: seems like the latter is the proper route. So also

546
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt that you have affiliation with Nike. I don't

547
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: think Oregon is going to be a poverty program anytime soon,

548
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: but not everyone on the West Coast is Oregon. So

549
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: when you say your prayers tonight, throw the pack twelve

550
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: in the mix. Academy Sports and Outdoors. None of these

551
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: issues late kick because we were associated with Academy Sports

552
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: and Outdoors. None of these issues. Academy is the entity

553
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: that built the bridge from us to you, So no

554
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: one has to pay for this show. And we appreciate

555
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: that it was eighty degrees in Nashville today. Now, Producer

556
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: Jesse has been a little salty becuse he's usually prone

557
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: to saltiness, but especially when he sees eighty degrees on

558
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: days that he has to come to work and what's

559
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: it going to be tomorrow? Jesse raw mid fifties, drizzly

560
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: and rainy when he wants to get himself on the

561
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: golf course around here. Be that as it may, spring

562
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: will come. You have my word on that spring will come.

563
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm also monitoring a potential tornado outbreak for those of

564
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Speaker 1: you in the southeast next Friday, so we'll talk about

565
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: that off air on the Socials. But in the meantime,

566
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: as far as on air and as far as your

567
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: life throughout spring, you know you're going to be outdoors.

568
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I know you guys like no one else does. And

569
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: I know you love the outdoors, whether you be a

570
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: biker or whether you be a camper or a hiker.

571
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Some of you are just outright climbers, whether you get

572
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Speaker 1: on the grill, whether you play baseball, or just do

573
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Speaker 1: all of the above. These folks right here Academy Sports

574
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Speaker 1: and Outdoors next to me, they know you better than

575
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Speaker 1: anyone else. Here's how well they know you. The stuff

576
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: you need is already there, and you never even asked

577
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: for it. You never even filled out a wish list.

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: One of the favorite bits of feedback I get, I

579
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: got two of them today actually, is hey, I didn't

580
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: think Academy would have this thing I need, but look

581
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture of myself with it in the

582
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Academy parking lot. That could be you. And if you

583
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: don't have one in your backyard, Academy dot com is

584
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: your hookup. We got to talk some actual football media

585
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: rights nil, that's great, but we got to talk some

586
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: actual football here. And also, I would like to strongly

587
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: encourage you, nay beg you to like the video if

588
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: you're watching right now, because well, we can do better.

589
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: We are better than three hundred and twenty nine likes.

590
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Speaker 1: And also, if you haven't subscribed to the channel already,

591
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Speaker 1: please do because our numbers are crazy right now. So

592
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Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to do anything you haven't already done.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if you haven't subscribed, which fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: you haven't according to our numbers as of today, there's

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Speaker 1: no reason for you not to keep it free. Subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, let's go sec East Spring questions here.

597
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I've got big ones and we're gonna go through them quick. Community.

598
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through quick because I've got them for

599
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: every program here. One of them is a national storyline,

600
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: and that is the Georgia quarterback situation. They won the

601
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: national championship last year again, and they're gonna be one

602
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: of the preseason favorites again. And I am alleged to

603
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: never talk about Georgia, if I believe everything they say

604
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: about me in the comments, I never talk about Georgia.

605
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the University of Georgia, my home state.

606
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Carson Beck is going to be the starting quarterback here.

607
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: I hate to spoil things. Most of the locals know that,

608
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: but I will reiterate just for public consumption. I think

609
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Carson Beck's going to be the starting quarterback there. However,

610
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Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing in the world to have

611
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: some competition in the spring. Now. Now, there are a

612
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: lot of people talking in a lot of different directions

613
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: about how Kirby Smart could have had his pick of

614
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: any offensive coordinator out there and he chose to elevate

615
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Mike Bobo from in house. I'm old enough to remember

616
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Speaker 1: the fire Bobo campaigns every other week at Georgia in

617
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: the SEC. Well, he gets another shot at it here.

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Speaker 1: This is not hard to figure out. Number One, Kirby

619
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Speaker 1: Smart has pretty much perfected their process over there, in

620
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: their way of doing things, and it's not the craziest

621
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: concept in the world for him to look around and say,

622
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: we've got this thing so dialed in. Any of a

623
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: number of people could be effective coordinators here. He came

624
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: from a place that was like that for a long time,

625
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: and that is Alabama, and so he's got it like that.

626
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: And so it did not jump out to me in

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: the least as I told you already that he elevated Bobo,

628
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: but I thought you were talking about quarterback, Josh, I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you one of the reasons behind Kirby Smart

630
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: elevating Mike Bobo is if you're going to have a

631
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: first year filling the blank, in this case, quarterback starting

632
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: for you, what you don't want is him having to

633
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: learn new terminology and learn a new offense in the spring,

634
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: or learn new anything in the spring for that matter. Now, Kirby,

635
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: no matter who he brought in, was probably gonna have

636
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: that guy do things their way, so there weren't gonna

637
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: be a whole lot of verbiage that was new to

638
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: the table anyway. But now there's absolutely nothing new to learn.

639
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: It's just continuing to rep what you've always repped. And

640
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: there's a different sounding voice telling you what to do,

641
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: but he's telling you the same things. And so Carson

642
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Beck keep an eye on that. I was over there

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Speaker 1: when they played Tennessee and talked to their staff and

644
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Speaker 1: I asked them, now, that's in the middle of Stetson

645
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Bennett season and he's gonna end up going to New York.

646
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: And I asked them, then, if Stetson went down right now,

647
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: or let's just not be so morbid about it this

648
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: time next year, who is it? And most of them said,

649
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be Beck. He looks the best.

650
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: It's going to be Beck, and I believe him on that.

651
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: So let's take a look at Carson Beck the spring.

652
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Graham Mertz this spring. What

653
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about Wisconsin for I'm not he transferred to Florida.

654
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I think most of you did.

655
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Most of you tuned in or diehards. But if you didn't,

656
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: someone may have come back from their honeymoon. Someone may

657
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: have done the irresponsible thing of spending Christmas with their

658
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: family instead of being locked into the transfer portal. And

659
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: shame on you. If you are that person, we kid,

660
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: We're here for you to remind you. The Graham Mertzes

661
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: of the world were on the move while you were

662
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: focusing on responsible things. Around the holidays, and he is

663
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: now a Florida Gator and may very well be their

664
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. In fact, if he's not, I don't know

665
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Speaker 1: who will be. I had someone come to me the

666
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: other day, not come at me, but come to me

667
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: the other day and said, I've got a bold prediction

668
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: for you. And I said, it's not bold prediction season yet,

669
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: see me in August. He said, nope, I got to

670
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: get this off my chest now. And his reason was

671
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to be saying what

672
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Speaker 1: I'm saying to you. He said, Graham Mertz is the

673
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: next Hendon Hooker. I paused as I thought something else

674
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: was coming behind it, and nothing did. That was the

675
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: entirety of the prediction. I am hesitant to buy into that,

676
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: but crazier things have happened. I will just say for

677
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the record, I don't think that will be one of

678
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: the more popular predictions that we get in August. But

679
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Billy Napier has got to hitch his wagon to the

680
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: horses he's got, and it may very well be that

681
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: Graham Mertz is a guy who is able to do

682
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: big things for Florida. This year, they got a big

683
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: void to film it's modern draft season. You know, some

684
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: people are suggesting that Anthony Richardson may be as high

685
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: as the number one overall player taken in the draft.

686
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Let me pause and take a sip from the chalice

687
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: while you ponder that. Not every opinion that is disseminated

688
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: from this company is reflected in the mind the other

689
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: people who work at this company. The depth behind him

690
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: is nil. So it's gotta be Graham Mertz, and we

691
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: need to keep a close eye on him. This fall,

692
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: they open at Utah, by the way, and while at

693
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: the moment that is scheduled as a Saturday game, should

694
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: they move that to a Thursday night game? Lake Kick

695
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Live from Salt Lake City? Could happen. I'm just putting

696
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 1: it out there. Next up, Tennessee defense. When you think

697
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Wait, when you think of garbage, think of Hakem.

698
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: When you think of defense, think Tennessee. They finished still

699
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: where's the number forty fourth in the country in points

700
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: per game this last year? Is that good enough? Well,

701
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough to do everything they wanted to do.

702
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: It was good enough to let's be real, their offense

703
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: was good enough to overcome that. I want to ask

704
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: you as we watch the volunteers go through spring practice,

705
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: as everyone's talking about Joe Milton versus Nico iam Aliava,

706
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: which we will be too at quarterback, how good do

707
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: they need to be at defense? This is one of

708
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: those situations where they don't need to be a top

709
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: ten unit. They're going to score enough. So they were

710
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: forty fourth. I would focus on becoming a top twenty

711
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: five unit, top twenty unit. You can always have higher respirations.

712
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: You want to work to a standard. I get all that.

713
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't have to because I am not Tennessee. I

714
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: sit here and talk about Tennessee.

715
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: I have a.

716
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee flavored mysterious liquid in the chalice. But I'm a realist.

717
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: If they're a number twenty overall defensive product, they're good

718
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: enough to compete for a playoff spot in the National Championship.

719
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: And that really outside of that quarterback battle, That's what

720
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I'll be watching in Knoxville starting this spring. They play

721
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: and Jesse, I need you to look this up for me.

722
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh never mind, it's on there, thank you. They play

723
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: in Nashville to start the season. Is that right? So

724
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee's first game is across the river from my apartment.

725
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: We could see Tennessee play from our office building in

726
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Week one against Virginia. Interesting. Okay, well, I did not

727
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: know that. I actually had not broken down the schedules yet.

728
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: So that's that. Let's watch defense for Tennessee. South Carolina

729
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: gonna stay on the defensive side of the ball. For them,

730
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: pass rush need it to develop, and they're going to

731
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: need to rely on some young kids to come through

732
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: pretty quickly for them. They're losing Jordan Birch, which is

733
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: not the most cataclysmic development in the history of South

734
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: Carolina football, I'll grant you that, but he was a warm,

735
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: dependable body that had been a highly rated recruit and

736
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: you were still hoping his best football was ahead of him.

737
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: Pickens is gone. They lose three of their top five

738
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Speaker 1: pass rushers. It wasn't a phenomenal unit to begin with

739
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: last year, but in needing to improve, you have pieces

740
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: to replace. And also they've got a combination, as do

741
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: most teams, of portal guys and then young guys coming

742
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: in through recruiting, and spring football is going to be

743
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: about seeing how quickly we can expedite those guys development.

744
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much we'll learn through just a

745
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: spring game of watching them. But the kind of intel

746
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: that I'll be looking for out of Columbia is kind

747
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: of like we talked about with LSU the other night.

748
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: Are you a finished product? No, of course you're not.

749
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: What kind of potential do you think you have now

750
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't know about four weeks ago when

751
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: you started springball at Kentucky? Their offensive line was bad

752
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: last year. It's not all their fault, Bam a swipe.

753
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: Their offensive line coach at the eleventh and a half hour,

754
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: Eric Wilford. So they gave up forty seven sacks last year.

755
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: You can either say that was last in the SEC

756
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: or it led the SEC. It was really bad. No

757
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: one was worse in the SEC. And I don't necessarily

758
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: know that. There's a ton of promise that it improves

759
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: this year. But crazier things have happened. Hey, if you're

760
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: into returning starters, they returned four or five and they

761
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: brought in two transfers. Good thing, bad thing? I don't know.

762
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: I also have the handy post it pop here at Missouri?

763
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: Can Sam Horn make a move? Can he can he

764
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: secure that starting quarterback position? He red shirted during the

765
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. They need him to be big

766
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and also Vandy, which we could also throw a rock

767
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: out the window and hit. Just very interested in how

768
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: much that twenty twenty two signing class emerges. And that's

769
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: not one player. They need kind of wholesale improvement across

770
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: the board. But remember may beat Kentucky last year. Vandy

771
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: played some good football down the stretch, which if you

772
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: have an emerging freshman class is when you start to

773
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: see that sort of gain some traction. So that's what

774
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: we're looking for in the SEC East this spring. I

775
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: have an announcement to make. Actually momentarily, they're watching us

776
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: in Auburn, Alabama right now. Ironically, I just got a

777
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: text from someone who lives in Auburn, Alabama. They're watching

778
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: us in a Popka, Florida, and they're watching us in Indianapolis, Indiana. Now,

779
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't want you to freak out when I tell

780
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: you what I'm about to tell you. I'm not abandoning you,

781
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm not jumping ship. I'm not trading in my college

782
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: football colors for NFL colors. But I will be in

783
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: Indianapolis next week. I will be covering the NFL combine.

784
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: Don't worry. We're going to do the show live from

785
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: up there. Big Game. Dane has things under control, so

786
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: we'll be live from I don't know, somewhere in Indianapolis.

787
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Maybe Wilt Fong's backyard, maybe Lucas Oil Stadium, maybe the Marriott.

788
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, but don't freak out. I normally don't

789
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: delve into those waters. But management requested it, and so

790
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: I am nothing if not a people pleaser. So we'll

791
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: be in Indianapolis next week. If you want to drop

792
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: by and say hi. I can't even tell you to

793
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: do that because I don't know where we're going to be.

794
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: I am very much in soldier mode next week to

795
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: salute and do whatever the mustachees tell me to do,

796
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: and then come back and jump right back into the

797
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: college football waters, all right. The Transfer portal. Transfer portal

798
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: is always active. The quarterback position is the most important

799
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: position in this sport. And I need to tell you

800
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: because one of you asked me and we couldn't get

801
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: it in on the Late Kick Extra podcast the other day,

802
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: I need to answer this question. Someone asked out of

803
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: the portal quarterbacks, who has the biggest impact next year

804
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: from Annandale, New Jersey. I don't ever like to answer

805
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: with just one guy pause. That doesn't create a segment

806
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: for us. But I'll give you four of them. I

807
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: have my eyes on now on the screen if you're

808
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, we have the top transfer portal quarterbacks

809
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: with new teams. Sam Hartman is the clear number one here.

810
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: So Sam Hartman was at Wake Forest. He's transferred to

811
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame sixty three percent completion guy last year. Jesse,

812
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: remind me in my ear or you could just use

813
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: the speaker if you want to. The chart you showed

814
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: me earlier about yards after catch? Do we actually have that? Okay,

815
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give Jesse one second. We will. So

816
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: that's stat for Hartman there. I'm gonna fill time here.

817
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: He has the most passing touchdowns in acc hit now.

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't normally show visual elements on the show that

819
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: you have to be watching to understand because a lot

820
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: of you just listen via podcast and I don't want

821
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: to show you things that you can't have if you're

822
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: listening on pods. So I'm gonna try my best to

823
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: tell you what you're looking at here. This is from

824
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: our buddy Parker over at statso war on Twitter. Questionable

825
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: opinions about life in various aspects, but really really good

826
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: follow for college football, really data centric has the opposite

827
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: of my problem. When you're in like the the sort

828
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: of ADHD lane, you can't look at numbers more than

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Speaker 1: ten seconds without it looking like a bowl of alphabet suit.

830
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: He does a really good job. So this right here

831
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Speaker 1: is a chart. On the bottom. You have air yards.

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Speaker 1: That's just the amount of yards you threw the football

833
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Speaker 1: in and then the receiver caught it. Boom right there,

834
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Speaker 1: how many yards did you throw for? Then on the

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Speaker 1: other side, I believe what would be the y axis.

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Speaker 1: This shows you how little idelve into this stuff. Those

837
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: would yards after catch. See that little icon that's all

838
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: the way in the far bottom right corner of your screen.

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00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: That would be Sam Hartman alone on an island out there,

840
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: throw in for a ton of yards, and then that

841
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: would be Sam Hartman's receivers doing absolutely nothing after the catch.

842
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: Wild Yeah, great quarterback. Ton of yards And then basically,

843
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: however far he threw it is where the chains will

844
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: be set and where the ball will be spot for

845
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: the next down. He goes to Notre Dame. I cannot

846
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: promise young Samuel that he'll have a plethora of yards

847
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: after the catch specialists up there either. He's also got

848
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: a new coordinator, so we'll see. That's one to keep

849
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: an eye on, cause he's a really good talent. The

850
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: other one that I am very intrigued by is DJ

851
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: uyangli Lay because we're not talking about Clemson anymore. By

852
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the way, I got four names for you here, and

853
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: every one of them is an ACC quarterback. Leaving the ACC,

854
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: DJ goes to Oregon's state. For those of you who

855
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: have not been keeping track at home this last year,

856
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: there were It was a very very weird thing because

857
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: his season ended poorly. He ends up transferring. But there

858
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: was a time where he was playing pretty good football,

859
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: or at least his numbers made it look like he

860
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: was playing pretty good football. And it was the first

861
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: eight games of the season. I got him right here

862
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: in front of me. Their handwritten, though it looks like

863
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: Brandon Walker's cursive. So they started eight to zero and

864
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: he was a sixty four percent completion percentage guy first

865
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: eight games. The last five fifty nine percent. They're passing

866
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: yards per game with him went from two twenty five

867
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: to one forty two yards per attempt, seven point seven

868
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: to five point three, and those first eight games, this

869
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: is really kind of where it swung. He was a

870
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: seventeen to four touchdown to I int Guy. Then it

871
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: was five to three over the last five games, and

872
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you saw Kate Klubnick play a little bit too. Anyway,

873
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: you saw what happened at Clemson. Yeah, he transferred, they

874
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: fired the OC. So you get Garrett Riley come to

875
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: clumbs In and he's got k klub Nick, and everyone,

876
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: myself included, expects improvement. But what if DJ was just

877
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: in an unwinnable situation and he all of a sudden

878
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: goes to Oregon State and he starts playing really good again,

879
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like you did the first time

880
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: you ever saw him in that Notre Dame game. I

881
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: don't know that we should be given up on dj

882
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Uyangili Lay just because he, maybe through some external factors

883
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: along with his underachievement, hasn't lived up to everyone's expectation. Yet.

884
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: Let's be careful, just be careful, selling them all the

885
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: way down the river. Devin Leary, was it NC State?

886
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Now is it Kentucky? I need one of you to

887
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: make sure he stays healthy. I'm not sure Kentucky's offensive

888
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: line is going to be up to the challenge. Forty

889
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: seven sacks given up last year last in the SEC.

890
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: We just talked about that a little while ago. So

891
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: if you can guarantee me he can stay healthy, which

892
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: was a problem last year, if you can guarantee me

893
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. In twenty twenty one, he was the

894
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: only quarterback in America with at least thirty five touchdowns

895
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: and less than five its. So we're not talking about

896
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: untapped potential here. We've seen him play pretty high level football,

897
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: certainly more than high level enough for Kentucky to look

898
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: at him and say, if we get that from him,

899
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: we'll be okay. We'll surprise a lot of people. So

900
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: if they can get a healthy Devon Leary, which is

901
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: up to them, then Kentucky's always in a position where

902
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: they could surprise some folks, especially since they did not

903
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: hit their over under last year. They didn't hit The

904
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: over over under was eight and a half. They went

905
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: seven and six, and so now everyone will find it

906
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: trendy to sell on them. Will Levis is gone. Well,

907
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: they got a pretty good quarterback in there. It's the

908
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: pieces around him. We need to wait and see about

909
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: The last one I wanted to talk to you about

910
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: for a second is Jeff Simms. Do you remember him?

911
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: What do you remember at Jeff Sims? Well, he was

912
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. Now he's at Nebraska. That was the

913
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: trivia question at the top of the hour. I think

914
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot left in the tank with him. I'm

915
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: on an island a little bit there. That's okay. All

916
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: I ever hear about Jeff Simms is he's seven and

917
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: sixteen as well. Yeah, he played on a team that

918
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: was seven and sixteen. I guess you're the starting pitcher

919
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: if you're the quarterback, so that's your record. I'm thinking

920
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: about fit. I'm thinking about Matt Rule sitting up there

921
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: voluntarily and Lincoln Nebraska saying Jeff Simms has NFL tools,

922
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: he has NFL potential. He's not the only person I've

923
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: heard say that about Jeff Simms. His career thus far

924
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: has not borne that out. But he's got a little

925
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: while left to go in his career and his size,

926
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: his ability in Matt Rule's offense could provide an immediate

927
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: spark for them. So let's keep an eye on Jeff

928
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Simms as well. Those are four portal quarterbacks that I've

929
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: got my eye on this next thing that we're gonna do.

930
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily the highest trafficked segment when we put

931
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: it as individual videos on our channel, but that's okay

932
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: because sometimes I put stuff in the show that may

933
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: not be the most grabby, catchy, click baity headline and

934
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: thumbnail ever. But I just think it's really fun to

935
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: talk about good for us. By the way, good for us.

936
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: And I asked you guys a few weeks ago, if

937
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: you could change some stuff about history to have maximum

938
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: impact on the sport. What are some of the things

939
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: that you would change? And a lot of folks go

940
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven and they go to different

941
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: things in two thousand and seven. Now, this is where

942
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: I always love to talk to the college audience. We

943
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: have a massive our eighteen to twenty four year old

944
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: demographic is our biggest demographic. So a lot of you

945
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: are fairly young, and you don't remember O seven all that. Well,

946
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you it's worth a Google. It's worth

947
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: taking a look at. It's worth reading about craziness. You're

948
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: talking about the Renaissance season to end all renaissance seasons.

949
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Every week, just unimaginable chaos. Kansas was a top five team. Okay,

950
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: South Florida was in the mix. Let me tell you

951
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: how crazy it got. We got to the last weekend

952
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: of the season and the projected national championship game was

953
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: Missouri versus West Virginia in football, not in nineteen thirty eight,

954
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: either in football in the year of Our Lord, two

955
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. That's how close we came. What if

956
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: it happened is the shakeup I want to give to

957
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: history here. How close were we? Well, we needed Pat

958
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: McAfee to make a few kicks for West Virginia so

959
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: that they beat Pitt. West Virginia is a four touchdown

960
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: favorite against Pitt. They lose thirteen to nine. The quote

961
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: from rich Rodriguez afterwards, it was a nightmare. The whole

962
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: thing was a nightmare, and pretty much everything afterwards has

963
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: been a nightmare for Rich Rod. If they win that thing,

964
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: if Missouri wins the Big twelve Championship against Oklahoma, which

965
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: they lost thirty eight to seventeen, if either one of

966
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: them wins, we have a different matchup. But if both

967
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: of them win, we see West Virginia Missouri in the

968
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: most undesirab National Championship game of all time. If you're

969
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: a network, if you're if you're ABC, I believe at

970
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: the time carrying the game. But I'm not worried about that.

971
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. That's not my world. So as

972
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: a fan, that would have been crazy fascinating. We ended

973
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: up getting LSU Ohio State. You remember that, But but

974
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: walk with me for a second into the ABYSS and

975
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: let's just assume that history played out different and we

976
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: got West Virginia versus Missouri for the BCS Championship in Glendale, Arizona.

977
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: The first thing that came to my mind is what

978
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: happens to Rich Rodriguez. West Virginia probably would have been

979
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: favored in that game. That's I mean, that's that they

980
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: had a squad, Pat White, Steve Slayton. That's back when

981
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: they had that squad. So if if rich Rodriguez wins

982
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: a title at West Virginia, does he ever leave, what

983
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: does it do for the Big East? Because at the time,

984
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: that's right, kids, they used to play football in the

985
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Big East. At the time, they're a Big East team.

986
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: The Big East is not far from imploding as it

987
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: turns out at that time. But what's the butterfly flap?

988
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: What's the chaos theory ramification for West Virginia winning a

989
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: title for the Big East? What would have happened to

990
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Les Miles at LSU? That was Les miles first national championship.

991
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: He wins it in seven with two losses. They won

992
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: the title, not even in an expanded playoff. You got

993
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: a two team playoff, you got the BCS. They just

994
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: take the top two teams. And two thousand and seven

995
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: was so upside down out of this world nuts that

996
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: there was a two loss team that made the championship

997
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: game in won it, and that was LSU. If Les

998
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Miles doesn't have that seven championship in his back pocket,

999
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: what happens? Because that's he lived off that for a

1000
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: long time. What happens? How much sooner? In a words?

1001
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Is he gone? Because Nick Saban was gonna take Alabama

1002
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: where Nick Saban always took Alabama. But what would have

1003
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: happened at LSU? I thought about that. I don't really

1004
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: know what the answer is. I thought about that. Here's

1005
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the thing I thought about the most, though, think about

1006
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: it from a broadcast network perspective. Think about it from

1007
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: a college football power players perspective. You love it when

1008
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: you get LSU versus Ohio State for a championship. That

1009
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: was the biggest sigh of relief in the history of

1010
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: this sport. You pay all this money to buy the

1011
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: rights to broadcast that championship game, and they're on the

1012
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: precipice of serving you up West Virginia versus Missouri. All

1013
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: due respect it is. It is a trash product from

1014
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: a ratings and revenue generating perspective, and then it's like

1015
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: God smiles on you and says, I find you to

1016
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: be an extremely high favor. You don't want Missouri West Virginia.

1017
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: How about I give you LSU Ohio State. How about

1018
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: I give you Ohio State versus the SEC. Yes? Please?

1019
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: But what if that didn't happen. What if someone had

1020
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: to bite that West Virginia, West Virginia Missouri bullet and

1021
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're looking around saying, if we

1022
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: had a fourteen playoff, it would have been taken care of.

1023
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: If we had a playoff, we would have been able

1024
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: to get LSU and Ohio State in this thing. And

1025
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: we were eventually going to get the playoff. Anyway, as

1026
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: history shows us we got it in twenty fourteen, I'm

1027
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: not so sure we may not have lurched towards that

1028
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: playoff a lot quicker as a sport if they would

1029
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: have been forced to swallow Missouri versus West Virginia. There

1030
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: are so many angles that you could go on that thing.

1031
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I didn't even mention what if Missouri

1032
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: won a title? What would that do for the Big Twelve?

1033
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: Missouri ended up leaving the Big Twelve shortly thereafter they

1034
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: went to the SEC where they are right now. I

1035
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: just I look at the twenty of the two thousand

1036
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: seven AP rankings entering bowl games, and it is wild

1037
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Hawaii's up there, Missouri's up there. So yeah, it was

1038
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: a crazy time for us, all crazy time for us.

1039
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: All all right. I wanted to get to this other

1040
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: question because I promised one of you that I was

1041
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: going to talk about this tonight, And go ahead and

1042
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: show me the question, Colin, and then I'll just kind

1043
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: of circle back around to how this all came about.

1044
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: So one of you asked me today about a response

1045
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: a reply I gave on Twitter at late kick Josh

1046
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: by the way to Joe Castiglion, that is the ad

1047
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: longtime athletic director since the late nineties at Oklahoma, and

1048
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: someone was asking him about this interview he gave where

1049
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: he was talking about stadium enhancements. So he said, it

1050
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: was kind of taken out of context. Instead, we're focusing

1051
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: on renovations that create great fan experience. Seating capacity could

1052
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: grow someday, and he went on to say, yeah, it

1053
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: could happen, but we're not going to one hundred thousand

1054
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: seats in Oklahoma Stadium. We're not going to do that.

1055
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: And I responded and said, good, No one in the

1056
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: right mind should have capacity increases at the forefront of

1057
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: stadium renovation plans. It doesn't make sense. In twenty twenty

1058
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: three and one of you said, why tickets are becoming

1059
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: insanely expensive? Why would we be not interested in expanding capacity?

1060
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: So I told you I'm going to talk about it

1061
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: on the show tonight. And here we are. There's this

1062
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: there's this timeout. I sort of have to call sometimes

1063
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: on my personal preference in the way college football is run.

1064
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: Even I understand that I have personal preferences that may

1065
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 1: not be in the best interest of the game overall.

1066
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, I, for example, could not care less about

1067
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: luxury suites. I don't well, aside from one recent exception,

1068
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't sit in luxury suites, and I certainly never did.

1069
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: Before I got in this business, I could barely afford

1070
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: the regular tickets. In most cases, I couldn't, So I

1071
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: certainly have never lived in the luxury suite strata of society,

1072
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: but I understand what pays the bills. So like, when

1073
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about stadium overhauls and enhancements, I personally could

1074
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: not care less. I love the Cotton Bowl in Dallas

1075
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: cause none of you get sweetes. All of you have

1076
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: to sit on the same metal bleacher. That's beautiful to me.

1077
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: A lot of you don't like that, and it doesn't

1078
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: generate near the revenue that it does when you have

1079
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of suites to sell to really, really

1080
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: deep pocketed people. So anyway, that's where there's a divergence

1081
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: my personal preference from what's best for college football. Well,

1082
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: jokistick Leon is in the real college football world, where

1083
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: no matter what his preference is, you can't afford to

1084
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: be adding capacity if it doesn't coincide with adding amenities.

1085
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: This is the entertainment and amenity world of especially in

1086
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: stadium presentation nowadays, there is way too much incentive for

1087
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: people to stay home that if you if you think

1088
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: that they're going to sit through the same experience today

1089
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: as they did in nineteen ninety three, you're crazy. They

1090
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: don't have the options in nineteen ninety three. They got

1091
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: the options today. And so you look at everything that

1092
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: can cost something going up, concessions up, parking up, they

1093
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: make you paid a tailgate that wasn't a thing in

1094
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, and your tickets cost more, you better

1095
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: be delivering something in exchange. And a lot of places

1096
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: that are undergoing enhancements in their stadiums say, okay, that

1097
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: means we have to enhance your experience, which usually means

1098
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: expanding some things, and it usually means taking out overall

1099
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: seating capacity, reducing seating capacity. Everyone's doing that. So if

1100
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: you're planning an upgrade and you're going to invest money

1101
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: in overhauling your stadium, no one's adding seats. They're adding amenities,

1102
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: they're not adding seats, And so that's the world you

1103
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: frankly don't really need to be here, in my opinion,

1104
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: in because if I like I said, if I had

1105
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: in my way, I would operate it like the Eagles

1106
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: used to operate their concerts. Leave your cell phones at

1107
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the door, and every one of you is gonna sit

1108
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: in the same seat. And that's the college football side

1109
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: of things. And you get your phone when you're on

1110
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: your way out, but you're gonna immerse yourself in the

1111
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: experience while you're here. But the real world can't operate

1112
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: that way because the real world is not an Eagles concert,

1113
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: as it turns out, And so that's why we wouldn't

1114
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: increase capacity. Yes, yes, there is a risk here. There

1115
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: is a very real risk of pricing the everyday fan

1116
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: out of the market. It's already happening. I just told

1117
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: you you run the number. I know a lot of

1118
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: you have, because a lot of you are living this

1119
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: existence right now. A lot of you have told me

1120
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: in the past. I've been a season ticket holder at

1121
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: Filling the Blank University for a number of years. But

1122
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: times are tight, economy is trash, and prices keep going up.

1123
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at what it costs to take my

1124
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: family afore to the same thing I've taken them to

1125
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: for twenty years. I can't afford to do it anymore. Well,

1126
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: they don't let you hit time out on that stuff.

1127
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: You either pay those dues every year or you go

1128
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: to the back of the line, and yeah, that's not

1129
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: going anywhere. So yeah, it's a real risk. It's a

1130
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: risk these athletic directors are facing. You don't think that

1131
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: the joke as stigli Owns of the world. You don't

1132
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: think the Greg Burns of the world. You don't think

1133
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: those guys understand that they've forgotten more about that stuff

1134
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: than you and I know they have to live in

1135
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: that every single day. Those are not easy decisions. In

1136
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: some cases, the guys who have these jobs are guys

1137
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: who came up no different than me and you. They

1138
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: paid their money or they begged their parents because they

1139
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: couldn't afford it to pay their way to go to

1140
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: those games, just like us. Just because someone signing off

1141
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: on decisions from an administrative standpoint doesn't always mean they're

1142
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: in love with the decisions. It's just that it's a

1143
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: necessary decision. That's why you get paid the money you

1144
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: get paid today to make some hard decisions. So I

1145
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: don't necessarily come to you preaching tonight saying you should

1146
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: love this it's not the greatest thing in the world.

1147
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: It's not the I'm being real with you. I don't

1148
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: like it. I don't like it at all, but it's

1149
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: the way things are going. So it's what it is.

1150
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: I will leave you on a happy note tonight, because

1151
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm always happy when I don't have to make the predictions.

1152
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: You make the predictions, and Colin, here's your endpoint. We

1153
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: go back to last summer. A lesser person, a casual

1154
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: would say the off season, and I asked you for

1155
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: your predictions, and you gave them. And let's take a

1156
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: look at where some of you landed on these, shall we.

1157
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's start in Coral Gables. Joe said, Miami's gonna win

1158
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: the Coastal. Joe, No, they did not. They did not

1159
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: at all. Unfortunately, Joe, I think that I may have

1160
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: agreed with you because I put a five on this,

1161
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: and as our friends over on the FSU board have

1162
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: famously pointed out, I predicted Miami to go ten and two.

1163
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought they were going to win the Coastal.

1164
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: Sue me, don't. That's the opposite of what this show's about.

1165
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: But I did think they were gonna have a lot

1166
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: better season than five and seven. I asked Jesse today.

1167
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't have to ask him. He just told me.

1168
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: He said, guess how many teams hit their over on

1169
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: the win total in the entire Coastal Division? And I

1170
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: got Duke, But I did not remember Georgia Tech. I

1171
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: didn't remember well North Carolina made the conference title game.

1172
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: But North Carolina didn't even have an overly special year,

1173
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: so it just was not a noteworthy year in the

1174
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Coastal bad misread of the situation. Sorry, so that one

1175
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: did not hit next up, this one did not hit.

1176
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: Will Anderson gonna win the Heisman Trophy, says Felix. Will

1177
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Anderson did not win the Heisman Trophy. Now, at the

1178
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: time I remember saying this, I said, I've got to

1179
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: put a big boldness rating on this because I don't

1180
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: run the Heisman. Like I thought to myself, if I

1181
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: were able to dictate the Heisman finalist instead of the

1182
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: voting class voting on him, then will Anderson would have

1183
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: a really good shot at this. But will Anderson was

1184
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: not gonna have a good show because he got screwed

1185
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: out of being a finalist the year before, and I

1186
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: saw no reason that was going to change. Well. Then,

1187
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: also you add into that the fact that will Anderson's

1188
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: numbers just weren't as good and not nearly as good

1189
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two as they were in twenty twenty one.

1190
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: About half the total tackles, half the total solo tackles,

1191
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: way way less, like fourteen fewer tackles for loss and

1192
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: ten or seven and a half fewer sacks math on

1193
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: the fly Harris County High School stand up. So yeah,

1194
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't close. And even so, even if he were

1195
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: to deliver on the same numbers he had the year before,

1196
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: it was gonna be tough. You're talking about winning it,

1197
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: not being a finalist winning it. So yeah, that was

1198
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: pretty bold. The next one was one of the highest

1199
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: boldness ratings I gave anything all year. Weston Wagoner hit

1200
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: us up and said, Kentucky will upset Georgia at home. No,

1201
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: they will go eleven and one regular season. No, and

1202
01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: they will make it to Atlanta. No, they were were

1203
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: competitive against Georgia. They lost sixteen to six, So I

1204
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: guess hats off for that. They were seven and six

1205
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: this year, so they not only didn't win eleven games,

1206
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: they didn't even hit their over underwin total, which was

1207
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: eight and a half, and they didn't go to Atlanta.

1208
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: In fact, they lost to Vanderbilt. This last year they

1209
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: were seven and six. It was not a great year

1210
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: for Kentucky. So that one was dead in the water.

1211
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: Next up, this one was lofty, but it wasn't the

1212
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: boldest thing in the world. Ohio State gonna go undefeated

1213
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: fifteen to oh National champions I don't need to remind you,

1214
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: but I will anyway in the interest of just being

1215
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: a good sport. They lost to Michigan. Then they got

1216
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: a reprieve and they go to Atlanta only to lose

1217
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: to Georgia and the Peach Bowl in a game that

1218
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: even the head coach at Georgia said Ohio State should

1219
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: have won. For whatever that's worth, I don't think they

1220
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: give you anything for that. But so that was what

1221
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: it was. Like. The prediction fails. I put a seven

1222
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: on that. It's hard to go undefeated, even if you

1223
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 1: do win the title, it's hardly going defeated. So yeah,

1224
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: the prediction didn't hit. Here's what's interesting now is we

1225
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: build towards spring, and we end up eventually building towards

1226
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: this coming fall. In the next season, people are starting

1227
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: to talk, and I've got my ear to the ground

1228
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: for you, and let me tell you what they're saying.

1229
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: They're saying there's a gap in the Big Ten like

1230
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: they always have. But the gap now it's Michigan and

1231
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: then a gap in then Ohio State. What do you

1232
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: think about that? We have to talk amongst ourselves here.

1233
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: What do you think about that gap? A gap? I

1234
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: know there's a two game win streak. I've been on

1235
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: the field for both of them, and I know they

1236
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: got to go to ann Arbor, Michigan again this fall,

1237
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: if memory serves so, I know Jim Harbaugh's got a

1238
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: really good team coming back. Jim Harbaugh himself is coming back.

1239
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: We got a quarterback competition to worry about it. Ohio State.

1240
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: I know all that gap is a strong word for

1241
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: a situation that really wires changes in the form of

1242
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: inches instead of wholesale changes. And that's something that's gonna

1243
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: be a theme I talk about with Ohio State a lot.

1244
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a gap. I don't think that.

1245
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: I think that's I think those are two really strong

1246
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: football programs and the last two times they've been on

1247
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: the field, it's gone Michigan's way. I don't think there's

1248
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: this giant gap. I don't see it that way. Maybe

1249
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Last up, Ah boy, this one was also

1250
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: dead on arrival. West Virginia says John will make the

1251
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Big twelve Championship game. It was a brutal season. The

1252
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: Mountaineers went five and seven, They missed a bowl game.

1253
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: And here's what's interesting, Like, imagine me coming to you,

1254
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: John in the preseason, after you made that prediction to me,

1255
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: and I said, well, I got good news for you.

1256
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: You think they're going to the Big twelve Championship Game.

1257
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: What if I also guarantee you they're gonna beat Oklahoma,

1258
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna beat Oklahoma State, and they're gonna beat Baylor.

1259
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: You would have said, can I go ahead and buy

1260
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: my ticket? And I would have said no, because they're

1261
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: going to lose to Kansas Texas Tech IY with state

1262
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: in Kansas State. I also lost a pitt if you

1263
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: care about such things. And it was just a very

1264
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: very bad year, very bad year to the point where

1265
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: some people are frankly surprised there wasn't a change in

1266
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: the head coaching position. There. They did overhaul the ads,

1267
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens in the future. Neil Brown.

1268
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: People keep asking me to do a hot seat segment

1269
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not doing one because I don't think there

1270
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: are a ton of them out there right now. But

1271
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: if you were to circle one, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: controversial at this point to say it would probably be

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Speaker 1: Neil Brown at West Virginia. Great week of shows, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Great week of shows. And it's February,

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Speaker 1: and I know that some people out there say this

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Speaker 1: is the time to take a break. It's not. I

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Speaker 1: led the show with it and I'm gonna repeat it

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Speaker 1: as we go off the air. There is a ton

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Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes. And the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: you never know when stuff's going to break. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's imperative to be following on the socials. At late

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Speaker 1: Kick Josh Instagram, Twitter bonus content. You get to see

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Speaker 1: a lot of high class ping pong being played around here.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I look, I just when you have that feeling.

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Speaker 1: I made it analogous to the volcano the other day.

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Speaker 1: When you keep seeing the earthquakes and you keep seeing

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Speaker 1: the little sizemograph, that little pin on the piece of paper,

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Speaker 1: it keeps going crazy. There's a rock slide today, there's

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Speaker 1: some steam spouting out of it. Tomorrow something's coming. Don't

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Speaker 1: know when, don't know what time, don't exactly know how

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Speaker 1: big it'll be, but it's gonna happen, and you need

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Speaker 1: to be here for it and subscribe while you're at

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Speaker 1: it so you don't miss anything. For producer Jesse, for

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Speaker 1: director Colin, I'm Josh pap We'll be back here same

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Speaker 1: time Sunday night. Until then, take care of have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend, and God bless