WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #27 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:07.160 Alzon Media. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.280 Holy balls, it's executive dysfunction. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.520 That's what we call this, right, right, executive disorder, a 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:17.560 rectile dysfunction? 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.200 Right, what do we do? 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:20.040 Who are we? 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.759 This is? It could happen here. Executive Disorder are weekly 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.040 newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.080 and what it means for you. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.080 Robert Evans, I'm sorry, Garrison. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.920 I thought we were anarchists, and being an anarchist means 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.400 never knowing what you're doing or why. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:38.680 Yes, kank of Phim. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.160 I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined by James Stout and Robert 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.879 Evans and Sophie Lichterman. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.880 I wasn't planning on being in MIC but it was 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.479 very apll. It happens very able. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't plan for shit, Sophie. It's 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.720 always chaos here. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.560 This week we are covering the week of July twenty 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.960 thirty July thirtieth. Robert Evans, how are you doing? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.960 You know what? I'm chillin like Gillan. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.880 I'm not because I am not in a max security 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.399 prison in Tallahassee, Florida, a federal prison. It's actually not 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.760 maximum security. So let's let's talk about friend of the 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.479 Pod Gilan Maxwell. We all love Gillan you know you. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.240 Speak for yourself. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.760 You LOVERR I lover Jeffrey Epstein loved her, but I 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.160 don't love her. So Gillan Maxwell is the daughter of 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.880 a guy named Robert Maxwell. We've done it behind the 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.680 Bastards on him. It was a fun one Bartley amazing character. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.080 Basically a guy who in his early life was a 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:44.119 character from Inglorious Bastards, like a Jewish refugee who signed 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.520 up to fight the Nazis for the Brits and killed 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:50.000 his way across Western Europe, murdering dozens of SS men. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.320 And then after the war he became a financier and 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.240 destroyed Scientific Publishing and also tried to ignite a rivalry 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.640 with Rupert Murdoch and failed so bad at it that 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.000 he stole a billion dollars from his company's own pensions 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.640 funds and then killed himself when all of that was 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:06.280 coming out. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.400 So he really is like the average Quentin Tarantino character. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.440 Yeah, what I would describe him as if Quentin for 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.000 some reason did a sequel to Inglorious Bastards and it 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.800 was just based on Brad Pitt's character becoming like a 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.280 crooked finance executive in the seventies. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.160 Becoming like the Wolf of Wall Street type guy. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.000 Yes, exactly like that, that's his backstory. Did you use 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.040 to murder Nazis? Yeah, but now I'm like foreclosing a 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:36.280 children's hospital. Anyways, So Gillan had a rough upbringing because 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.760 like her older brother had a car accident when she 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.480 was very young, and he was in a coma for years. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.320 Her mom basically spent a whole year just at the 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.600 hospital with him. She was ignored for a period of time, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.840 and then her parents tried to overcompensate and massively. Anyway, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.400 she has the kind of upbringing you would kind of 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.440 expect for a socialite who winds up both poor as 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.520 a young adult when her dad dies, not real person poor, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.800 but rich person poor. When her dad dies and the 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.440 family is disgraced and all their businesses fail, and she 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.680 flees to New York to try to start a new life, 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.520 and the thing that makes sense to her, based on 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.800 her background, being the kind of person that she is, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.919 is to find a rich man and cling to him. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.600 And that rich man happens to be Jeffrey Epstein, who 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.119 starts off by kind of renting her a luxury apartment. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.959 They begin dating. At some point they stop dating. It's 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.679 unclear to me how they would have defined their relationship 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.640 at any point. Internally, the way they would always say 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.720 it is they dated for a while, and then Jeffrey 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.520 had a thing where he would say, like he never 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.160 he doesn't have exes. He promotes his exes to friends. Right, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.400 and Gilan Maxwell was like his best friend and his 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.680 business partner. She helped him run not his actual businesses 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.760 that made money, the finance stuff, but his life, right 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.200 like she ordered his houses, she managed his housekeepers, and 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.640 she helped recruit girls and women because they recruited both 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.560 for the stuff that Jeffrey is famous for, right, both 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.880 to give him massages and in the context of Epstein, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.480 massage always means sex. And also recruit the girls that 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.560 they flew around on the Lilita Express and you know, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.840 handed off to different prominent men who wanted to have 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.159 sex with teenagers or very young women. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:21.480 Right. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.960 Gillan was intimately involved in all of this. She was 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:31.680 convicted in twenty twenty two after Epstein's suicide and sentenced 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.480 to twenty years in prison for all of, you know, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.719 the sex crimes that she had a part in. She 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.000 was transferred to a federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida in 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.600 July of twenty twenty two. She was initially held in 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.760 the normal dorm like in general population, right, and the 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.520 prison wing that she was in is was kind of 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.800 colloquially known as the snake pit because it was a 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.640 very nasty place with quite a lot of violence. To 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.160 quote from an article in the Tallahassee Democrat, quote, Maxwell 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.960 created a ruckus when she had a falling out with 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.880 several women. After Maxwell reported two other inmates known as 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.240 Los Cubanas for trying to extort her. Epstein's partner in crime, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.560 refused to use the shower stalls where violent attacks are 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.839 more common, and was escorted by a guard to and 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.560 from her prison library job. So she has a kind 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.119 of rough early time in prison because she's in general pop. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.240 She rolls on these other inmates and that starts the 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.320 process of her getting special treatment. She has since been 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.880 moved because of her good behavior to an honor dorm 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.120 where there are thirty or forty quarters for the best 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.120 behaved inmates. She's we don't really know for sure, but 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.640 it's very likely that she has a private room with storage. 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.800 She's teaching yoga classes at the prison. She has at 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.400 some period of time volunteered at the library. She also 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.719 teaches etiquette classes. And I want to make it clear 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.359 I don't have an issue actually with the fact that 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.880 she's teaching yoga or doing etique class. I think if 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.000 we're going to have prisons, prisoners should have access to 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.560 stuff like that. I think that's all perfectly fine. I 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.680 think her getting special treatment for good behavior I don't 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.159 really love. But I also don't think we should have 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.440 prisons that can be described as a snake pit. So 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.240 I'm kind of on the mixed end here. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:15.760 Yeah. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.640 Another thing that's kind of come out during her time 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.800 in prison is that she has become a vegan. She 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.680 was not for most of her life, but she did 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.680 when she came to prison. She's complained a lot about 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.520 the quality of the food, which is never spiced and 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.320 it's just kind of like unflavored tofu, and Peta has 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.520 advocated on her behalf, which is pretty consistent for Peta. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.680 She's also said, and there's significant evidence that this prison 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.719 regularly serves rotten food that is bad for inmate health. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.919 It is a Florida prison. When Gillan talks about it, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.960 she has in several interviews the bad conditions in her prison. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:53.200 She's not lying or whining. These prisons are not acceptable quality, right, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.600 Like the Florida Department of Corrections and the Federal Department 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.680 of Corrections are horrible and they're doing a horrible job 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.479 of run these places. The fact that I don't feel 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.800 specifically compassion for Gilan Maxwell doesn't mean I want to 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.640 like minimize the reality of the conditions in these prisons, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.680 because most of the prisoners there were not massive sex 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:19.120 child sex traffickers, you know, Yeah, sure, So anyway, FCI Tallahassee, 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.080 which is where she's at. She's now in the prison's 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.040 on or dorm and is still trying to get out 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.560 of prison. So she's made a couple of claims prior 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.280 to the most recent stuff that is in the news 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.320 right now that we're talking about. One of the things 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.160 she's tried to argue is that the terms of Jeffrey 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.200 Epstein's when he was initially prosecuted back in like twenty 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.200 and seven, two thousand and eight, the terms of his 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:45.040 plea bargain should apply to her basically like she was 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.920 included in that and so she shouldn't be liable for 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.240 the things that she got sentenced for. More recently, I 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.240 am not familiar with the exact legal ease her lawyer 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.160 is using to make that argument, but that is the 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.640 gist of the argument her lawyer is trying to make. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.200 It's not going to work. What might work is her 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.080 getting a pardon. So that's probably the thing you've seen 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.920 about Gillen in the news most recently is that she 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.320 is basically asking Congress, if you want me to testify 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.720 about Epstein and about the client list and everything. I 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.080 can't talk openly if I'm in prison. And there's a 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.040 degree to which, like, again, I don't support this at all, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.960 but she's not wrong that, like, well, yeah, you really 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.200 couldn't talk total, Like it really isn't reasonable unreasonable to say, yeah, 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.560 someone's probably not going to be able to talk openly 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.240 about all of the wealthy, powerful people they saw committing 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.720 sex crimes while they're locked up in prison, right, Not 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.080 that prayinger is the right thing to do either. I'm 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.160 just like, yeah, I mean, I bet someone could have 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.120 you killed. I bet there are people that you have 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.360 dirt on that could have you killed in that prison. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:47.000 Yeah. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.679 Well, and she's currently appealing her conviction to this room 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.360 court and she's arguing, yes, that if she were to 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.480 testifying for Congress, she would need immunity for anything that 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:56.160 she says. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.720 Right, So that's what she's asking for now. That said, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.240 she has already very recently been talking with the Department 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:03.840 of Justice. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.079 Yes, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:12.040 Todd Blanche had nine hours of meetings over two days. Wow, Okay, yes, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.120 Now there are no public statements about what she said 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.840 during this, Like, we don't know what this was about. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.800 We do know there was some sort of immunity agreement. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.680 A limited immunity agreement for those meetings and what she 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.199 was saying in those meetings. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.440 Okay, and we don't know precisely what it covered, but 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.920 it probably means that basically, you're already in for twenty years, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.520 if you talk to us about stuff that may implicate 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.640 you in crimes you haven't been charged for yet, you 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.320 get immunity on That is what I would guess, right, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.920 but we don't actually know precisely, like what was happening here, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.000 And yeah, there's Barrett Berger, a former federal prosecutor in 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.480 New York told NBC News that he thinks that the 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.960 interviews Blanche did were probably performative. Quote, it may just 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.400 be a way of being able to say, look, we 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.439 dotted every eye and crossed every t There's value in 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.280 being able to say that we've tried to speak to 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.200 everyone that we possibly could, including the co defendant. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:08.560 Right. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.920 So that's her argument is basically, yeah, Blanche met with 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.199 Gillan so that they could say they're talking with her 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.360 because she's not going to talk to Congress and they're 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.520 probably not going to offer her immunity. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.040 And it's hard to imagine that, like Donald Trump's own 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.959 Department of Justice is going to be investigating Donald Trump's 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.280 connection to Jeffrey Epstein. So whatever comes of these meetings, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.240 I do not think that through these meetings she's going 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.000 to incriminate Donald Trump and that's going to be handled 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.760 in any serious way. If anything, something like the opposite 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.440 is happening, where she's talking about people who are not 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.760 Donald Trump, yes, and in doing so trying to gain 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.560 some sort of favor with the President. As Trump has 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.600 said like last week, that he's quote unquote allowed to 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.720 pardon her not saying that he will, not saying that 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.679 he plans to. He's a loud ton. I can play 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.000 that clip here for the audience. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.079 Yeah, let's do that. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.320 Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Kelan 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.120 Maxwell if. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.040 Something I haven't thought about, it's really don't recommending that something. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.319 I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not. 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:16.600 Thought of, but I wouldn't. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.000 Rule it out here. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.320 I'm by it. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.800 And in addition to that, he's made a couple of 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.680 weird comments about Gillan over the years. When he's asked 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.200 about Jeffrey Now, he's pretty negative about him. He tends 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.480 to be like, look, we knew for a while, like 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.560 we were never close, and you know, we had a 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.640 falling out. He's a bad guy, right, That's what he said. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:41.520 More recently, He's never really been negative about Gillan. More recently, 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.960 the thing that I recall him saying is that like 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.560 he wishes her well when she was sentenced, Yeah, which 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.120 is kind of weird, right, And I don't know if 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.080 it's kind of a result of the fact that she 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.160 has something on him and he's trying to you know, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.880 I don't know that seems unlike that seems less likely 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.000 to me than like maybe he actually just kind of 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.640 liked Gilan Maxwell. But I don't actually know. And anyway, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.360 that's the situation. We don't know. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.240 Is Trump going to pardon her. He hasn't said he's 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.880 going to. But as Garrison noted, it's weird of him 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.160 to insist that he has the right to just kind 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.120 of randomly, Why would you do that if you weren't 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:20.880 thinking about it. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.920 Yeah, you can just say no, Like you can just say. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.320 No, I'm not gonna like, I'm not going to pardon her. Yeah. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.200 Well, and Trump has continued to make weird comments about 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.000 like Epstein, and has elaborated on his falling out with 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.560 Epstein the past week, first stating that they broke up 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:41.400 their friendship because Epstein was just poaching hotel staff, which 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.160 contradicts Yeah, earlier state was Trump made, And then on 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:50.559 July twenty ninth, he had this much more elaborate conversation 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:56.360 on Air Force one about how Epstein was taking employees 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.640 from his spa and specifically like naming known vics of 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:01.840 sex trafficking. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.320 Yeah, he specifically named Virginia Jeffrey fairly recently too, when 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:07.680 talking about white people. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.280 It was yeah on the twenty nine. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.679 Yeah, I think a reporter asked if she was one 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.839 of the people, and he said, yes, I believe she was, right, Yeah, he. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.920 Said, I think so. He stole her as the quote. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.600 Yeah, there was a reporter who introduced the name into 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:22.960 the conversation. This Sweeklear. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.040 So you know, do I think she's going to get pardoned? 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.439 It seems really unlikely to me, And it seems really 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.240 unlikely to me in part because how would the like 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.920 I have trouble imagining even that not causing huge problems 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.080 for him, Right, I'm not one of these This is 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.240 guys who's constantly like, ah, Trump's Trump's finally you know, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.760 we've got Donnie on the road, finally got But this 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.320 is this is a big one, right, This is a 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.280 big one to his followers, to just Americans in general. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.640 Something like seventy percent of the country or more. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.080 Is following this story actively and has a strong opinion 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.520 on it, and there's zero electoral gain and pardoning Gillen 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.960 fucking Maxwell right, like it's a It strikes me as 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.160 unlikely because it seems like a serious damaging risk. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.080 The only thing they might try to do is if 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.400 they try to paint like her herself as like a 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.640 victim of Epstein. Right, there's been like a Newsmax segment 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.200 trying to argue this. So like you can see some 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.760 sectors of the right who are trying to like create 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.320 room for Trump to maneuver here. But I don't know 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.320 if that will be a compelling narrative nationwide. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.000 He's got to lose some people if he does that. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.480 It seems unlikely, And. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.800 I don't know. He seems annoyed that this is still 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.280 a news story. He had this little Scotland vacation to 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.760 finish a trade deal with the EU, which we'll talk 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.040 more about next week, but throughout this Scotland vacation he 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.920 was quite upset that reporters there were still asking him 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.440 about one Jeffrey Epstein. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.840 Yeah, the rush as the o'don's normal. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.080 Jeffrey hte story. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:05.720 How you got to be kiddy with it? 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:08.760 No, I had nothing to do with it. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.560 Only you would think that not had nothing to do 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:12.280 with it. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.080 That is that why he cheated at golf? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.320 You know, that's a good a good call, Sophie. Maybe 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.640 he was off his game because of all of these 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.920 Epstein questions, and that's the only reason why he cheated 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.960 at golf this one time and definitely no other times ever. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.080 Truly his his most heinous crime. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.320 Yeah, I guess that's kind of where we end off. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.800 I'm not gonna say he wouldn't, right. I'll never say 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.360 there's no way Gilan Maxwell gets pardoned because this is 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.840 twenty twenty five, and he'd be crazy. It's like, there's 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.720 there's credible evidence that he is considering a pardon for 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:42.640 fucking P Diddy. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.160 Yeah. Deadlon reported that yesterday. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.840 And again if it if it is right, it's if 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.440 he does. We know why. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.480 It's because P Diddy probably has some shit on Trump, right, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.560 and P Diddy has the kind of resources that he 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:59.000 could have, like a a dead fall system setup, right that, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.440 like if something happened depends to him, the info gets 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.960 out Like that is not beyond the kind of guy 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.320 that P did he is, Whereas I don't know that 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.960 Epstein ever really prepared for that eventuality. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.440 No, I don't think so. Like Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:19.920 was interviewed by the BBC last week and mentioned how 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.040 Jeffrey was talking about like possible information he has regarding 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.520 to the twenty sixteen election. But it does not sound 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.720 like there was any kind of like system for this 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.920 information or that even any other people knew besides Jeffrey. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.320 I can play that clip here too. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.280 Did he tell you who he knew things about it? 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:38.880 Well? 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.920 In the twenty sixteen election, we were talking about the election, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.560 and Jeffrey told me that if if he said what 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.840 he knew about the candidates, they would have to cancel 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:48.360 the election. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.640 That's a quote, it's exactly what he told me. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.040 He said, if I said what I knew about the candidates, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.600 they'd have to cancel the election. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.120 He didn't tell me what he knew, but that's what 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:57.600 he said. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.400 Yeah, in general, was like a very compartmentalized guy. And 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.720 I don't know. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.000 We'll see what happens with all of these cases. It's 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.359 gonna be worth following. But it doesn't seem to be 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.280 going away the way that a lot of Trump stuff does, 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.280 because I mean, it's Epstein right, You've gotten too much 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.359 of your base hooked on this story for them to 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.000 just give it up because it's inconvenient now. So I 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.280 don't know what's going to happen, but we'll keep watching, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:41.600 and you keep listening to these ads, beautiful. Oh my god, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:46.280 those ads were so good. I feel like that picture 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.800 of Bill Clinton getting a back massage from Nope. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.400 I don't know if we should do that in this episode. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:57.280 Yeah, anyway, what's next? What do we talk about next? 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.800 Speaking of pardons and Epstein, I'm gonna play one other 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:07.240 clip from Trump's Scotland vacation where he's trying to reiterate 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.639 his whole Epstein hoax narrative and in doing so invokes 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.120 something that relates to our next topic. But I'll play 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.120 I'll play this clip here. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.720 So hoax that's been built up way beyond proportion. I 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.640 can say this. Those files were run by the worst 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:27.919 come on earth. They were run by uh Comy, they 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.679 were run by Garland, they were run by Biden and 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.280 all of the people that actually ran the government, including 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:40.520 the Autopen. Those files were run for four years by 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.000 those people. If they had anything, I assumed they would 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.040 have released it. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:45.439 The whole thing is a hoax. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.679 They ran the files. I was running against somebody that 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:51.640 ran the files. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.920 The auto pen. That's going to be our first mini 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.960 mini story this episode. So, the autopen is this tool 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.800 that helps with the signing of documents. It automates the 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.480 process by replicating a signature. And this is a machine 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.120 long used in the White House. It's for like hundreds 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.800 of years. Barack Obama was the first one to officially 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.600 use it to sign led legislation. But this is a 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.639 regular tool, right And the past few months, Trump has 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:24.040 been increasingly obsessed with the autopen in trying to attack 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.520 Biden's administration and somehow take some of the blame away 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.200 from Biden and onto the people who Biden was surrounded by. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.560 In June, Trump ordered an investigation into Biden's alleged use 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.720 of the autopen and if other figures in Biden's White 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.280 House were using the autopen without Biden's knowledge acting as 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.560 shadow president. I'm going to play a clip here from 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.400 Fox News discussing the possible ramifications of the autopen's use. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.879 Mister Chairman, you mentioned that you're looking at some of 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.760 the pardons that were done under President Biden and the 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.760 use of the autopen, doctor Fauci being one of them, 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.159 talking about whether they were legitimate or not. Are you 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.280 also looking into Biden's judicial appointments as well. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.040 Absolutely everything that was signed with the autopenive, especially in 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.439 the last year of the Biden presidency. This is when 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.920 all the books that are being written, all the tell 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:23.400 all interviews that are being recorded from his former disgruntled 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.080 staffers and staffers who are trying to preserve the reputation 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:31.040 for future employment, They're all saying that Joe Biden was 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:35.359 in a deep mental decline. This raises an issue whether 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.520 these pardons, whether these judicial appointments, and whether these executive 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:43.520 orders are legal. I believe that if this investigation keeps 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.760 going in the way that it's going, that's going to 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.680 very serious concerns about whether or not Joe Biden even 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.080 you what was going on around him, much less whether 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.920 he authorized the use of his signature on all of 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.280 this stuff. I think all of these are in jeopardy 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.920 of being declared null and void in a quart of 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.680 And that's a big deal for the Trump administration because 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.440 so much of what Trump is up against in court 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:10.320 now with these liberal biased Biden appointed judges is the 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.800 fact that they're using and citing some of these executive 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:19.520 orders as reason to throw out President Trump's agenda and 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.320 President Trump's executive orders. 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.480 So that gets into the scope of things that we're 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.280 dealing with here. It's not just pardons. This this started 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.719 by talking about Biden's pardons this past March on a 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.160 truth on Truth social Trump claimed that Biden's preemptive partons 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.200 of members of the January sixth Investigation House Committee are 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.560 quote hereby declared void, vacant, and of no further force 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.080 of effect because of the fact that they were done 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.840 by auto pen unquote, and like, this just isn't true 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.920 that there is no constitutional requirement that pardons even be signed. 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.240 He cannot void pardons like this allegedly, right, Who knows 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.360 what they'll try to like do by like enforcement. But yeah, 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:05.280 according to like the legal systems currently in place, this 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.080 this like isn't real. But if they do try to 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.120 legitimately go after like judicial appointments and try to create 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.159 this conspiracy of this like shadow cabinet that was secretly 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.120 running the government, I will be interested to see where 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.600 that goes and the extent to which they think they 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.639 can pull that off, especially as a way to like 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.560 bypass judges who are blocking various Trump policies from being 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:27.400 put into effect. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.119 Yeah, I mean, I've just always been of the opinion 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.960 that we shouldn't even be allowing these people to use pins. 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.000 You know, niform. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.560 We already had the perfect way of putting law on 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.080 the books, and we need to go back. 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:40.800 We need to return. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.120 Yeah, then to books exist send or is it all 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:44.960 in the clay tablets? 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.960 As god all clay tablets, James, We've got him the. 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:50.520 Whole internet clay tablets. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.240 Yeah, because none of these laws are actually written on clay, 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:56.480 and therefore, I, for one belief that they do not 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:57.080 apply to me. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.560 That they're not valid. You know, you've heard of e 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:01.359 inks screens. We need eat play. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.600 That is the only way that a law could be 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.800 passed in these United States. Otherwise I retain my sovereignty 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:08.440 as a citizen. 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.119 That's that's what it's about. 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.439 Trump does pride himself on always using the pen to 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.520 sign things himself, except for like fan mail and like 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.760 thank you cards, and which he gets his staff to 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.200 use the auto pen to sign those can Avail supporters. 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.679 But for all serious matters he prides himself on only 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:27.600 using the pen. 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.480 Not just the pen garrison. I believe he has a 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.080 special Trump edition Sharpie has a big bucket of them 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.919 on his desk. If I re call correctly that he 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.320 then did they sell them off after it? 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:42.320 My mistake he uses his special sharpie to sign all documents, 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.359 including the next two topics, which are some executive orders. Shit. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.000 So there's been a number of executive orders in the 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.200 past few weeks that are forming what's what the White 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.399 House is calling the AI Action Plan, which largely seeks 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.800 to loosen restrictions and regulations on AI and accelerate the 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.359 building of data centers to power AI training so that 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.800 American companies can better compete in the global market. But 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.760 there was another AI executive order signed last week on 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:18.600 July twenty third, which is titled preventing Woke AI in 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.159 the Federal Government. 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.040 Wow. Incredible. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.720 I'm going to read the first two sentences which are 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.000 which are long sentences of the AI executive Order on 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:36.480 woke AI. Quote. In the AI context, DEI includes the 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:40.040 suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex, 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.199 manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs, incorporation 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:49.520 of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.600 and systemic racism, and discrimination on the basis of race 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:58.080 or sex. DEI displaces the commitment to truth in favor 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.760 of preferred outcomes and as and history illustrates poses an 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:07.840 existential threat to reliable AI. For example, one major AI 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.240 model changed the race or sex of historical figures, including 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.840 the Pope, the Founding Fathers, and Vikings when prompted for images, 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:19.320 because it was trained to prioritize DEI requirements at the 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.520 cost of accuracy. Another AI model refused to produce images 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.840 celebrating the achievements of white people, even while complying in 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.360 the same request for people of other races. And yet 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.920 another case, an AI model asserted that a user should 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.840 not quote unquote misgender another person, even if necessary to 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:43.840 stop a new killar apocalyse Official White House Executive Order documentary. 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.120 The last one is one of the fucking funniest things 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:46.960 I've ever heard. 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.520 Would you suck off one hundred apes to save one 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:50.160 human life? 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:55.200 Well that absolutely not absolutely, but I would do the reverse. 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.320 This is this is like, this is crazy stuff, right, 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.520 This this is stuff that you would see like daily 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.400 wire posters talking about like four years ago. 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.720 This seems like debate me bro like blue tick Twitter stuff. Now. 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.680 Yeah, but even even talking about you know, like how 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:16.080 like things like unconscious bias and systemic racism cannot be mentioned, right? 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.560 Those are things that that specifically Ben Shapiro has like 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.040 led their charge on attacking and mainstream in mainstream like 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.679 political disagreement for a while now, like arguing that that 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.960 systemic racism is not a thing. Yeah, and now you 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:34.320 have orders specifically targeting systemic racism being used in AI outputs. 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.560 So part of what this executive order actually seeks to 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.560 do is make it so that the government can only 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.399 use large language models that are developed with the principles 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:50.680 of quote unquote truth seeking and ideological neutrality, requiring that 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.720 these are nonpartisan tools that do not manipulate responses in 0:26:54.800 --> 0:27:00.359 favor of ideological dogmas such as DEI. In a f act, 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.359 the order seeks to use government contracts as bribes to 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:09.199 make companies ensure that their AIS are not woke, with 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.280 the Trump administration serving as the judge of what is 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.040 and isn't woke and threatening to pull contracts and force 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:20.480 companies to pay cancelation fees if their AI language model 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.639 is deemed to be too woke. 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.240 I never want to hear the word woke again. 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.159 Yeah, I'm so fucking tired. 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:28.520 That's exhausting. 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.680 Yeah, it's Jim Crow for the for the computer. These 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:32.320 ways what this. 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.560 Is like as a part of this AI action plan, 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.000 Like they're like third or fourth main principle is quote 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.800 unquote upholding free speech in frontier models, updating federal procurement 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.680 guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.560 large language model developers who ensure that their systems are 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.520 objective and free from top down ideological bias. That's the 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:54.800 opposite of free speech. 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.040 Yeah, what do you. 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.919 We will like make sure that they only do this 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.000 specific thing that we want, and we're calling that upholding 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:03.639 free speech. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.840 Just say you want Mecca Hitler Rock. 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.760 Just just he has groc has indeed said that. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.040 I know, I know. So that's the first executive order 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.399 that I want to talk about. The next one is 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.280 less brain roddy and more horrific actually scary. Like I'm 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.119 sure the WOKEI one will turn out to be bad, 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.199 but this next one is like extremely extremely fascistic, and 0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.040 I don't use that word lightly. This order is titled 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.960 ending crime and Disorder on America's Streets. I'll start by 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:45.840 quoting one paragraph quote Endemic vagrancy, disorderly behavior, sudden confrontations, 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:51.000 and violent attacks have made our cities unsafe shifting homeless 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:55.440 individuals into long term institutional settings for humane treatment through 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.640 the appropriate use of civil commitment will restore public order. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.000 The Attorney General shall prioritize available funding to support the 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:08.640 expansion of drug courts and mental health courts for individuals 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.920 for which such diversion serves public safety. 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.480 Yeah, this is bad, this is yeah. Some again, people 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.720 like to like to use fascism a lot, but the yeah, 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.760 this is some Nazi shit like this, this is a 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.160 thing that the Nazis did. 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.240 Yep, let's get more into what this order outlines. So 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.560 this executive order directs the Attorney General to reverse quote 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:39.600 unquote judicial precedents prohibiting involuntary institutionalization and to seek the 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.640 quote termination of consent decrees that impede the United States 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.000 policy of encouraging the civil commitment of individuals with mental 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:52.120 illnesses who pose risks to themselves or the public, or 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.920 or are living on the streets. It starts but you know, 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.239 if someone's at risk to themselves, and then expands that 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.440 to just include everybody, if they're deemed to be at 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.760 risk to the public or just happen to be living outside. Yeah, 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:10.280 you can now get put in what is essentially Trump's 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.719 new version of a scene asylums. 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.240 Yeah, that's really scary. 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:21.600 Yeah, I think like we shouldn't not mention that a 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:25.920 lot of this shit, it's directly downstream from democratic mass 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.200 in large cities and especially in California, pushing frint voluntary 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:30.120 commitment of bunt house. 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.880 No, this is like Gavin Newsom's wet dream. Yes, yeah, 0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.280 this is Todd Gloria's shit. 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.680 Honestly, this is unfortunately very bipartisan when we are at 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.880 least talking about the political elite, and to a sizeable 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.640 extent when we're talking about the electorate. Right, Yeah, this 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.560 is an issue on which the left has catastrophically lost, 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.960 just like immigration. Unlike immigration, it is not an issue 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.760 in which we're starting to see the pendulum swing back. 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.400 Because yeah, number one, I mean, I guess we have 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.640 not yet seen the kind of violence deployed against the 0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.120 House US by agents of the state at scale in 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.800 public that we're seeing right now on migrants. Right, Like, 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.600 there's not a federal agency going to war on the houseless. 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.840 It's the same kind of islence that's existed previously. But 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.240 also like there's a huge amount of propaganda against this, 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:21.320 Like every City Business Association, you know, is constantly complaint 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.120 because they see this as like, oh, this is why 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.400 people don't want to come into stores anymore. 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.440 It's the houseless, you know, it's not fucking Amazon or whatever. 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.560 Yeah, it's absolute bullshit. 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.800 Yeah. I mean some of that might change, though, because 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:38.400 Trump is seeking to mobilize federal resources to start doing enforcement. Yes, 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.160 the order direction Trump's cabinet to be giving grants to 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.120 state and local governments to help enact civil commitment and 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:49.160 institutional treatment, with the priority of grants being directed to 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.920 states and municipalities that already have and enforce strong anti 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:57.480 homeless policies. The order allows for emergency federal law enforcement 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.720 assistance funds to be used for encampment removal, and directs 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.800 the Secretary of Health and Human Services to remove federal 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.160 funding from quote unquote harm reduction or quote unquote safe 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:12.120 consumption programs, as well as quote ending support for housing 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.320 first policies that deprioritize accountability and fail to promote treatment, recovery, 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.959 and self sufficiency. So not only are they increasing enforcement 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.280 capacity to apprehend mentally ill or houses people and put 0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:29.240 them into institutional facilities, but they are cutting all federal 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.200 funds from programs that are deemed to be harm reduction 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.480 or safe consumption, which are programs that have been shown 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.520 to work across the globe, as well as ending housing 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.960 first policies, which is what most homeless advocates actually push 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.000 for as a way to solve homelessness. 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.320 Yeah, because there evidence based and they work. 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.600 The order also requires that recipients of federal housing and 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:56.600 Homelessness assistance to force participants who suffer from substance abuse, disorder, 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:01.360 or serious mental illnesses into quote unquote treatment or mental 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:06.120 health services as a condition of participation unquote, and that 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.560 the recipients of these petrol funds are now required to 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.840 collect quote unquote health related information from everyone who has 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.840 provided assistance, and is required to share that data with 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.760 law enforcement quote in circumstances permitted by law. 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.200 Don't love that. That's horrible. Yeah, that's really just not 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:24.400 aligning one across. 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.280 That's so scary, yeap, the weaponization of health data for 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.240 law enforcement, yes services. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.719 Yeah, yeah, And unfortunately it's exactly the thing that like 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.000 for years, advocates for mental health care have been trying 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.840 to get across, like, hey, it's okay to go in 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.360 to seek treatment like this is stuff isn't going to 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.000 be weaponized against you, And. 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:47.000 That's not true anymore. 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.640 Like the degree to which, outside of the actual danger 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.520 of law enforcement getting this data and using it, the 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:57.680 setback to mental health care to people feeling having any 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.520 chance of feeling safe to pursue it is like incomprehensible, 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:02.920 Like it's so bad. 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:07.120 Yeah, And not only are they seeking to go after users, 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.680 the recipients of federal housing and Homelessness assistance that operate 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.120 drug injection sites or quote unquote safe conception sites will 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.240 be reviewed by the Attorney General for violation of federal 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:23.640 law and bring civil or criminal action in appropriate cases. 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.719 Literally going after people who try to create environments where 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.800 people who use drugs can do so in a method 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.000 that will not kill them. 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:31.479 Yeah. 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.120 Yeah, people who are handing out clean needles, you know, 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.320 safe injection sites, that sort of thing, any kind of 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.400 harm reduction. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.480 Which will now be under investigation by the Attorney General. 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.000 Yeah yeah, which is going to get people killed. It's 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.160 going to imprison people who have been doing nothing but 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.600 helping other people. Like it's just comprehensively a nightmare. 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.680 It's going to lead to more communicable diseases. Spreading that 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.680 we don't like that some of these safe injection sites 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.520 have prevented spreading right, needle exchanges have prevented when we 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.839 combine it. R of case, stuff like this is going 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.600 to be a made to public health issue on top 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.600 of everything else, So. 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.800 On top of expanding drug courts and mental health courts. 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.720 I will will end with one final quote from the order. Quote, 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.880 they will ensure that homeless individuals arrested for federal crimes 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.120 are evaluated to determine whether they are sexually dangerous persons 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:26.360 and certified accordingly for civil commitment. And finally, Trump's Cabinet 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:30.640 is directed to quote assess federal resources to determine whether 0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.600 they may be directed towards ensuring that detainees with serious 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.880 mental illnesses are not released into the public because of 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.680 the lack of forensic bed capacity at appropriate local, state 0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:44.480 and federal jails or hospitals. Unquote, it remains to be 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.520 seen this scale in which this will be implemented. Usually 0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.799 these orders have a series of months in which the 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.880 cabinet members will then propose actual implementation policies that then 0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:00.360 can be implemented across the country. But certainly is in 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.160 the order itself is incredibly worrying. 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.799 Yeah, yep, we probably shouldn't let this guy become president again. 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:09.120 Yeah. 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.479 Oh well, do you know what we should do right now? 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.160 Oh yeah, yeah, ads, just good to ads. Sure have 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:15.960 fun with that. 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:33.920 Everyone talking of shouldn't have let that guy become president again. 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.719 One of the reasons that I did become president again 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.520 is because the Democrats were incapable of fielding a candidate 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.040 who could say genocide bad. 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.120 Yeah. That might have helped. 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.920 I mean, it's a fucking low bar and it failed 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:48.440 to clear it. 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:49.280 It might have helped. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.200 It might have helped. According to new data from New York, 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.800 where two thirds or more of New York Democratic primary 0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:00.680 voters agree with Zora Mondomny's positions on Israel and arresting 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.880 Benjamina Yahoo, and the fifty seven percent say that they 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.839 might oppose Democrats who do not endorse Momdani for mayor. Yeah, 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.439 because so it seems like, yeah, maybe the Democrats should 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:11.319 have done something about that. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.319 It seems like the majority of their base wants that. Well, 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:15.239 I'm not one of those. 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.279 I always hate it when people are like, try to 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.759 reduce the loss to one thing, because there's a number 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:24.160 of but like one. Yeah, like Michigan. We can probably 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:30.239 blame the loss of Michigan on Kamala's failures to call 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.440 Gaza a genocide or to take any kind of a 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.440 stance separating her from Biden on that matter. Right, Like, 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.120 there's a decent amount of evidence to suggest that maybe 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.360 other states, you know, other things went wrong, but like this, 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.960 that was a significant reason why the Democrats failed. 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.799 Yeah, look at look at the way if we're about 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.279 to discuss how the Hirety Canada, while we have been 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.919 recording this is announced that it is joining the UK 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:58.040 and France and plans to conditionally recognize a Palestinian state. Yeah, 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.560 and the reason that is happening is because Israel's genocide 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:06.319 in Gaza is continuing. July has been the deadliest month 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.120 for the past year and a half. One person has 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.959 died every twelve minutes. One hundred and ninety nine people 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.160 have died every day. Four hundred and one of them 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.960 have been injured. We saw this week nineteen people died 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.279 of starvation. None of these people are dying because of 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.440 a famine that's caused by the weather or some other 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.919 natural cause. Right, this is entirely a choice, and it's 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.200 made by people in the Israeli state, very chiefly by 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:35.600 Benjamin net Yahoo to quote Netyaho. Israel has been forced 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.000 to allow some aid into the strip, but only a 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.640 tiny fraction of the required aid has made its way 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.239 in One in five children in Gaza is suffering from 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.360 acute Mault nutrition. That figure has tripled since last month, 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.560 according to the World Health Organization. Not only is there 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.040 not enough food, but there are also not enough medical 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.680 supplies to treat people with acute Mault nutrition. Right, when 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.480 somebody is acutely malnurried, you can't just like hand them 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.360 a sandwich and fix a problem. 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.640 This was a major problem when liberating the concentration camps 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.120 at the end of World War Two. American soldiers would 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:14.000 see these people who were just as I mean, can 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.960 you've seen pictures of Auschwitz survivors and stuff and just 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:22.000 act with immediate human compassion and give them whatever they wanted? Right, 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.040 And then people got sick and died because you literally can't. 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:26.520 You have to. 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.359 There's a very specific way when someone is that far 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:34.040 gone that you have to slowly renourish them whatever, yeah. 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:38.000 Refeed them, ensure that they are maintaining adequate hydration. Levels 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:43.120 right therapeutic formula for babies that are malnourished. 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.120 It's more it's I think there's this like mystic understanding 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.839 that like, oh, starving people are just hungry, so you 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.600 just feed them and like past a certain point, No, 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:50.600 they're not just hungry. 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.200 Something else is going. 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.120 Their bodies are failing and beginning to die, and that 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.960 requires medical attention because they have a very serious medical condition. 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.719 Those medical supplies are a lot getting into Gaza. The 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.520 Integrated Food Security Phase Classification generally referred to as the 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.120 IPC is student alert for what it calls quote the 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.880 worst case scenario of famine in Gaza this week. In 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.040 their alert, they said, quote, over twenty thousand children have 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.760 been admitted for treatment for a cute malnutrition between April 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.440 and mid July, with more than three thousand severely malnourished. 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.919 Hospitals have reported a rapid increase in hunger related deaths 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.480 of children under five years of age, with at least 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.040 sixteen reported deaths since the seventeenth of July. That's not 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.600 really much that I think we can say about this 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:41.600 other than that it's absolutely despicable and disgusting. As a 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:46.120 result of Israel carrying out a genocide in the open. 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.440 The UK, France and Canada have indicated, as I said, 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.279 they're willing to recognize a Palestinian state with some conditions. 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:58.000 Statehood will not feed these children, rightly, these people will 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:02.600 be dead long before the state is recognizing as something changes. 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:08.080 Yeah, the whole recognizing statehood for me is less meaningful 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.799 because I care about states than it is as a 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.080 symbol of the fact that France, you know, and the 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.759 UK and an increasing number of nations who were not 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.959 like imagining them ten years ago, like taking the stance 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.160 of being as critical of Israel as they are would 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.960 have been a stretch, right, would have been difficult to comprehend. 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:33.600 And I think what it really does showcase is how 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:41.320 rapidly international opinion has changed and the very dangerous situation 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.480 Israel has gotten itself into where I don't think it 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.080 is a matter of immediate danger because the weapons aren't 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.960 going to stop flowing and no one is going to 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:56.040 stop them militarily, but they are sabotaging the ground underneath themselves, 0:41:56.239 --> 0:42:00.560 and I do think I mean, maybe this is me 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:05.319 being unreasonably hopeful here, but yeah, like this is I 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.239 think they're setting up their own downfall here, you know, 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.920 not quick enough to save any of these lives, but like, 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.719 this is not a good position for them to be 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.120 in a country that's this dependent upon foreign trade, upon 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:22.839 foreign weapons, upon foreign support for its survival. Like they're 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:24.400 sabotaging themselves. 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.360 Yeah, they're becoming a paria state, far too slowly given 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.000 what's happened over the last couple of years, But it's happening. 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.640 I'll just finish, I guess by saying that Israel has 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.960 agreed to make tactical pauses, which is I don't know 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.799 what that really means, to allow it to enter the 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:44.520 IPC report suggesting media actions to protect life, but it 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.719 concludes a quote, none of this is possible unless there 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.759 is a cease fire, and there is no sign of 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.640 that in the immediate future. Let's talk about immigration, shall 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.120 we something something that is also pretty much a downer. 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.160 I guess the State Department is rolled back it's visa 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.400 interview waiver. This was a pandemic era thing, right that 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.480 people didn't have to come into the consulate and actually 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.120 do an interview with a physical human for their visa. 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.239 This will result in massive delays at consulates around the 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.120 world and will mean that visas are inaccessible for some 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.719 people entirely right because getting to a consulate alone is 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.000 a barrier for them, right or another expense, and it's 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.640 a risky expense if you think you might be turned down. 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:33.040 The government has been canceling hearings, according to NBC Miami 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:37.920 of people in the Everglade Detention Facility AKAA Alligator Alcatraz 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.480 right it makes are also being denied the right to 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.640 meet with their attorneys. The government asserted that everyone there 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.800 has a final removal order. However, at least one attorney 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.480 with two clients there the NBC Miami spoke to said 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.120 that this was not the case for their clients. They 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.640 don't have final removal orders, but nonetheless they are not 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.279 able to access their due process rights. There is a 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:03.000 lawsuitanwn this and many other issues at the center that 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.680 will be held on the eighteenth of August. Talking of removals, 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.440 we are beginning to see first hand accounts from the 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.600 Venezuelan people who were detained as Sicotte. Two hundred and 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:20.719 thirty Venezuelan detainees there were traded with Venezuela in a 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:25.080 three way trade for the US citidents detained in Venezuela. Right, 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.560 three way trade. I mean very clearly the people in 0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.880 Seccott were really under US custard. Yes, right, so it's 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.640 just a workaround for a direct trade. 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.640 Well, or at least I mean they were under the 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.759 custody of a US contractor, right, Like, that's I think 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.279 the accurate way to describe this. 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.000 Yeah, yes, I think that's probably yeah. Yeah, Like the 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.359 US had control over their comings and goings, as it's 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.280 demonstrated by this prisoner exchange. 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:51.600 Right. 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.560 These reports indicate that the plane landed and immediately Salvatory 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.360 and police entered and beat the men so civily that 0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.920 flight attendants on the plane cried and agent told them 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.839 in Spanish quote, this will teach you to enter our 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.600 country illegally. Many of the men, I should point out, 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.239 did not enter the country between ports of entry or 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.240 without inspection. They entered via CBP one, the only legal 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.640 way for them to claim asylum at that time. The 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.040 men said they were beaten, kicked, and shot with rubber pellets. 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.719 They were never allowed outside, and guards would mock them 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.320 and refuse to tell them the time when they asked. 0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.640 Several of them mentioned a fellow detainee who began cutting himself, 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.399 writing messages on the wall in his own blood. Those 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:38.240 messages include, stop hitting us, we are fathers, we are brothers, 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.879 we are innocent people. Shortly before their release, they say 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.839 they were treated better, allowed to shower and shave, and 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.800 given medicine. When one of the men returned, his neighbors 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.960 clapped together to raise twenty bucks for his mother to 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.040 decorate the house and make him a meal of chicken, 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.200 rice and plantains. That one was particularly hard for me 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.719 to read for some reason, because that specific meal is 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.800 one I've eaten with the people within carakas the people 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.680 I was with in the Darian Gap. Right, it just 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.520 seemed very personal to me. They also noted that many 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.000 of the men well detained, parade and read the Bible. 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.839 They use food packaging and even food to make dice 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.080 and playing cards to play games. The things that I 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.359 read in this are actually like, really heartbreaking, because I've 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:23.359 seen folks from Venezuela go through really horrific things. Right, 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.840 they were in the Daryan Gap when I was in 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.839 a Darian Gap. I've seen him in outdoor attention. I've 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:33.320 also spent time living in Venezuela and throughout that like people, 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.600 Venezuelan people have shown incredible capacity to continue to smile 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.600 and have joy and have a joke and have a laugh. 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.799 So like, seeing these men so thoroughly beaten down by 0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:48.120 the Salvadarrian state is really hard. I'd encourage you all 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.359 to read the pro public apiece, which I will link 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.880 in the show notes. But yeah, it's yeah, it's as 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.879 bad as we expected it to be. Right, I don't 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.640 think for a minute that else Albert or expected them 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.800 to leave. So it treats them like I'm sure it 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.000 treats everybody else there. Yeah, right, Like that's that's that's 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.560 what you have to assume. And that's why it's important 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:14.560 not to limit the discussion or the anger to the 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.360 case of you know, the Garcia and you know this 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:21.359 couple of people who are quote unquote obviously. 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:22.520 In essence individual people. 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.840 Yeah, like nobody should be in Seacott and quite frankly, 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:30.320 Hunter Biden's right, you know we should. We should invade 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.239 El Salvador if that's what it takes to close this 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:37.239 place down. Yeah, like fuck them, like it's it's I mean, 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.120 or someone should invade us. I don't fucking know whatever 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.280 it takes to stop this shit, but like it's unacceptable. 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.239 Yeah, it's inhumane. Like a world where this suxists is 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.200 not a world we should want. No, I guess maybe 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.640 and with some good news and a little fundraiser if 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.120 people want to donate good news, is it. A judge 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.279 has ordered the release of Kilmar Abrego. I guess he 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.719 prefers to just use the first part of his last 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.439 name Spanish. Last names come from your mother and father. 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.000 Some people use both on PBS one. 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.080 Oh, I hadn't got that. Actually, thank you, James, Yeah, 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:08.800 you are welcome. 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.680 Judge Enis ordered that he be returned to Maryland, not 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.920 be immediately detained by ICE on his release, and the 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.200 seventy two hours notice be given if they try to 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:22.120 remove him. I have seen reporting that says she has 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.279 ordered that he can't be deported. That's not true. She 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.080 ordered that he have his due process rights if they 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.400 attempt to remove him, right. I've also seen reporting that 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.560 he is like out and about on the street. That 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.480 is not true. A Tennessee judge did deny the government's 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.480 attempts to detain him while he awaits criminal trial, but 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.600 at the request of his legal team. His release has 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.000 been stayed by thirty days. I believe this is to 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.120 prevent ice grabbing him and deporting him immediately when he's 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.760 released or thereafter, right until they got their clarification from judges. Genis. 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.520 This comes after Trump administration or the DOJ has failed 0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:58.960 to persuade any for federal judges that he was a 0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.680 leader of MS thirteen. His lawyers have also asked a 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.480 judge to stop DHS posting about this and prejudicing a 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:11.520 potential jury pool. So, at least in this one case, right, 0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.000 this man is moving closer to being back with his family. 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.920 Let's talk about a fundraiser and then we can finish up. Yeah, 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.799 So I want to talk about Hose Juron and I 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.600 will just read here from the fundraiser page. Jose was 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.840 taken from his family and detained O Timeser Detention Center 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:32.160 over thirteen months ago. Like many friends, parents and siblings 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.879 in prison at OMDC, Josse has received no medical care 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:40.560 despite having concerning symptoms for colon cancer. Visibly in pain. 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.200 During his previous hearing, Jose showed the judge Ajar with 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.600 one point five to two inches of blood that he 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.280 reported had come out of his rectum. No one should 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.239 have to supper these indignities. If you would like to 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.520 support Josse, you can go to give butter dot com 0:49:56.600 --> 0:50:01.759 slash free Horse Jiron. That's f E E J O 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.200 S E G I A O N. 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:10.000 I think that's all for us. We reported the news. 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.319 Goodbye, We reported the news. 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.280 It could happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.520 For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.160 Coolzonemedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.120 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.480 You can now find sources where it could happen here 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.319 listen directly in episode descriptions. 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:38.480 Thanks for listening.