1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: She don't believe in shooting stars, but she believe in 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: shoes and cars, wood floors in the new apartment. Kotour 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: from the Stars Apartment. You more like love the Stars shit, 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Our moider trips to Florida ordered dar fuse of the 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: water are straight from the page of your favorite author. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: And the weather so breezy? Man? Why can't life always 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: be this easy? She in the mirror of her dance 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: is so sleazy. I get a call like, where are 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: you easy and try to hit you with the old 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: wop through until I got flashed by the pop Arrozzi. Damn, 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: these niggas got me. I hate these niggas more than 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: the Nazi. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: That's true because he fuck with Trump. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackoutes podcast. Your host Rod, and 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: he was trying to tell us. We didn't want to 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: hear it. You hate these niggas more than the Nazi. 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: He's cool some of them. We gotta show love, got 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: to show love. We are in the house on a 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Tuesday after taking yesterday off. I took it off because 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: it was International left Hander's Day and I am a 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: left handed person, And in this latest two years of 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: my life, it's probably been the toughest two years being 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: a left handed person. In America. Our pl like doesn't 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: really get respected. Nobody's talking about it, and the undercurrent 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: of this whole country has been put in the lurch 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: because of the fragility of rightness. Right fragility has really 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: put us in a bad place because we had the 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: backlash to a left handed president. So we got eight 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: years of competent left handed leadership and right people were 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: so fucking fragile they couldn't handle it. They went to 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: the polls and voted in a right man just because 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: he right. Oh that's right, motherfuckers. I'm going to remind 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: you every day that Donald Trump is a right man. Okay, 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: I voted for them. 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: I would have voted for the left hand nigga again 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: if he could. 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Run a lot. Well, a lot of y'all right people 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: say that, But at the polls showed up and y'all 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: went and supported him in the majority because y'all couldn't 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: help having competent left handed leadership. Now we got right 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: supremacist in the right house and then the administration. God 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: deal with right. The return and the rise of right 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: nationalism right in front of us. I mean, they had 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a march called Unite the Right. They had a march 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: called that. And I'm supposed to just go to work 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: on Monday like it's all good. Fuck No, we work 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: for ourselves over here. And it's a left hand corporation. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Half of this is a left hand corporation. And I 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: know a lot of people are like, well, you love 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: left people so much while you marry a right woman. Well, 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. First of all, Karen knows 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: where to stand with me on these issues to the left, okay. 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: Second of all, just because I'm in an inter handsial relationship, 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: not disqualify my left activism. And I'm kind of sick 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: of people trying to come from me. I love my people, okay, 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: and that's it. And if we have children, guess what, 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: they gonna be left handed too. They're gonna be half 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: left handed. So you're gonna end up having to have 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: a left handed baby. Think I'm gonna let anyone disrespect 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: my leftness or my child. They do know, So y'all 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: get to go ahead and have some respect, okay, and 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: concentrate on the issues that really matter. The way that 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: right people put us in this situation in this country, 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: and I'm sick of this shit. A lot of people 67 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 2: is in my mentions yesterday trying to be, oh, well, 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: what about this, what about that? What about scissors? What 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: about desk? 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: You need special entitlements? No, I just want the same 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: thing that everybody else got. I want that equality, okay. 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: I want to same chance that a right man has 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: when he's born okay, or right woman, even right person period. 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: And I'm sick of I'm not. I will not be 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: your ned Flanders. And all my left handers out. 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: There raise one ink palm fist in the air and 78 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: let these motherfuckers know. 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: That we are done being your ned Flanders. Okay, find 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 2: you a new uh uncle palm. Okay, we're not dealing 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: with that now. We can get it to the show. 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: But some of y'all are just downright disgusting, just all 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: being all your right fragility all up in my mention. 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Right then. Look, some of my best friends are right, okay, 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I don't still see handedness. Okay, 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: and you should too. You just had the same respect 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: for mine that I have for yours. Why don't we 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: get a right hand to day every day, a right 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: hand today, motherfucker. We can't get one day without y'all complaining, 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: crying your right tears all down the timeline. I was 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: just sipping on right tears. Boy, I swear to god, 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: I could have drowned the right tears yesterday if I 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: didn't know how to swim. People that claim to be 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: cool with the show asking why would I choose this lifestyleist, 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: It's not a lifestyle was born this way. 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: And a lot of y'all need to come out their hand. 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Closet because a lot of y'all was born this way too, 98 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: but your parents trained it out of you and your 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: teacher's touch to something different, and now you live in 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: a damn hand. Lie. Well, I'm not going to okay, fellow, 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: South Paul's that only we can say that, say the 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: fuck out of my mentions with that bullshit. I saw 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: a lot of y'all trying to one. You could say 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: South Paul, but I can't you say left hand like 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: he's supposed to. We didn't come up with that. Y'all 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: don't wanted to change the language. Two left feet? What 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: is that supposed to me? Way out in left field. Huh, oh, 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: this is about to go left. Oh you got left behind? 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: You think I don't notice what y'all do to the language. 110 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: I need to have the same lefts as y'all have. 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: That's right. I didn't say rights lefts. I want to 112 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: have the same lefts that every other person is a 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: human being, is qualified to have. Y'all shouldn't have to 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: be able to dictate the language by which we even speak. 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: That's how ingrained it is to our society. 116 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: You say something is correct, y'alla says right, Oh you 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: got you want to talk about the qualities we all 118 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: should be gifted as human beings. 119 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: Oh, they're called rights? What does that mean? 120 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: What side of the road supposed to drive on? In America? 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: The right? I swell, man, right people, y'all something else? 122 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Y'all something else? So yeah, that's why I take the 123 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: day out, because it's been stressful and we deserve So 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: I was hollering at all my other left people out 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: there to let them know what's up. And I hope 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: y'all had a relaxing, a much more relaxing day than 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: I did with all these fun can write supremacists among 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: us try claiming to be allies. Oh god right, people 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 2: are trash honestly. Oh all right, guys getting to the news. 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: See what's going on? All right? So it got spicy 131 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: on the bird today. That means Twitter was activated. Okay, 132 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 2: it was a lot of a lot of Twitter stuff 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: going on for some reason. 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't even know what to start out of Twitter shit. 135 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 136 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: It's like Twitter is its own fucking thing, you know 137 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: what I mean? 138 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: It really is, like it's not even. 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Really necessarily news, but it is news. But it's like 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: the news started on Twitter and just having to be 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: stay on Twitter. So it's gonna be a gossiping type 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: of show. First of all, I was at work. First 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: of all, Azalea Banks claimed that she hung out at 144 00:07:53,800 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Elon Muskin's house. Then, yes, the car Man, the evil 145 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: Bond villain over the weekend and he was scrounging for investors. 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: What is this nigga's life like? 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: And I mean that for both of them, you know. 148 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: What I mean? Like what had to happened for a 149 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: situation where they both were occupying the same space. I 150 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: don't know what what does she do? 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Is she like an escort or some shit? She getting 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: flown out? 153 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Is she I mean is this like I mean a 154 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: rich white man like fucking Russell Crowe and Eli. 155 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Mustling around like yo, you know who? 156 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: I really need to get this party lit. We need 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: to holler a sell your banks? Like is that what's happening? 158 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Are they just inviting her but they don't know she's 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: sail your banks? And then she shows up and they're like, 160 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: who is this person in my house? And why they 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: put my business street And it's like, well, you didn't 162 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 2: see her Instagram and how she be acting? Like what 163 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: what Instagram? Ha ha? I thought that was pay him 164 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: from accounting. I didn't know who Isla Bank said, No, 165 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: it's more to it. Yes, she claimed she spent the 166 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: weekend at his house. Set in social media blaze, and 167 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: it is also this weird thing where no matter how 168 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: many times she gets caught in some hypocritical, contradictory, lying 169 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: ass shit, there's always at least one nig. 170 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: On the timeline talking about something. 171 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: Ooh, she dropped the receipts and the TV we either 172 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: And then the people share that and it's almost like 173 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: they it's like Lucy with the football, like I don't 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: can't believe nothing that come out of her mouth. You 175 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: just gotta be entertained and move on with They like 176 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: if this is true, It's like, but what are the 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: odds that is true this time? Anyway, she went went 178 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: in on him on Instagram and uh was saying that 179 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: he was scrounging for investors at the tweeting last week 180 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: about plans to take Tesla private. She also said she 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: was not trying the eaves drop, but that she could 182 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: hear that he was scrambling because he in fact didn't 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: find any fund, have any fund and secured must representatile 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: business Sider. He could not comment on funding Tesla to comment, 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean, what is that? Fall called like, it. 186 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: Was like, who's said this? What are you talking about? 187 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I have no comments on that. 188 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: Hello is Tesla Marketing? 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, it's a Jones from Business Insider And I 190 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: was just calling to see if y'all had any comments, 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: any responses to the things that ISAI your banks are saying, 192 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: who anybody? 193 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Hey, hold on, hold on anybody know? 194 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: Who is that your bank? 195 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: This? Nah? I never heard of him? 196 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Who is that? Who is banks is saying that you 197 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: guys are losing You guys are not able to scround 198 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: your funded right now and uh, would you like to 199 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: provide some comments on the funding right now? 200 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: I have no comments because we don't know. 201 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: Who she is. She's a musician. 202 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Never heard of a music before. 203 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: She said she was an Elon Musk House this weekend. 204 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Doesn't ring a bell. 205 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: She was a black woman, Still doesn't ring a bell. 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was black people there, but. 207 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: She probably calls the scene and got kicked out. 208 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: M nothing. Still okay, all right, well all right, I'll 209 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: just put you down for no comment. Oh senateor rapper 210 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: poster Instagram. I waited around all weekend while Grimes coddled 211 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: her boyfriend. And another story, she wrote that staying at 212 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: Elon Musk House has been like a real like episode 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: of Get Out. Grimes, the singing songwriter whose real name 214 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: is Claire Boucher, has been dating Musk, the founder of 215 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: CEO of Tesla, since the earlier this year. With business 216 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: inside of reached out to Banks via Instagram direct message 217 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: Banks share for other details. She said she arrived at 218 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: one of his homes in Los Angeles early on Friday 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: and left on Sunday night, and independent secondary source confirming 220 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: the banks confirmed that Banks was at one of must 221 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: properties over the weekend. Over the course of the weekend, 222 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: Banks said the couple essentially went in the hotness. Musk, 223 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: who had tweeted earlier in the week about planning to 224 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: take Tessela private and said funding was secured, sought funding, 225 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: but Banks said the couple kept stringing her along with 226 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: the promise of. 227 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: Collaborating on music. 228 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: They bring me out there on the premise that we 229 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: would hang and make music, but his dumb ass kept 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: tweeting and tuck this dick in between his ass cheeks 231 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: once shit hit the fab What Banks said must seemed 232 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: distracted over the weekend. I saw him in the kitchen 233 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: tucking his tail in between his legs, grinding four investors 234 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: to cover his ass over that. After that tweet, she said, 235 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: he was stressed and red in the face. He's not 236 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: cute at all in person. 237 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Why does anybody invite her to any fucking thing. 238 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Out What are the rules? Man? Why? 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Why? 240 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: Why was she even there? A spokesperson from Musk told 241 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: visitors out of that email, Eli has never even at 242 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: miss Banks or communicated with her anyway, but did not 243 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: deny that Banks had stayed that one of his properties 244 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: over the weekend. Tesla declined to comment on banks claims 245 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: about Musk looking for investors. Banks also said that she 246 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: was not trying to ease Drop, but that must seem 247 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: to be scrambling A Monday must sat in a statement 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: on Tesla's website that he used the phrase funding secure 249 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: to indicate that he believed there was no question that 250 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Saudia Arabia's public Investment Fund would provide funding to convert 251 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: Tesla into a private company. 252 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: A representative from USK. 253 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: Referred questions about Tesla's funding to the company, which declined 254 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: to comment. Boucher also did not respond to a request, 255 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: and neither Musk nor Boucher responded to banks claims on 256 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: social media. 257 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: Banks Instagram posts also because. 258 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: The stir, she alluded to drug use. On a Twitter 259 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: Musk representative said claims were utter nonsense. Of course, she 260 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: has made a lot of wild claims. At twenty sixteen, 261 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: she slammed Beyonce on Twitter and accused her of stealing 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: from other artists. Banks Twitter account was deactivated in June 263 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: that she graphically an insulted Monit Exchange a competitor on 264 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: the most recent season of RuPaul's Drag Race. Earlier this year, 265 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: Banks started to go fund me asking for help to 266 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: fund a lawsuit against actor Russell Crowe, who she claimed 267 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: spin on her choke turn called it a N word 268 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: at a party in twenty sixteen, the producer Resalator, confirming 269 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: the Crow spit on Banks. I could run test but 270 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: better than he does. Banks told business Side of the Musk, 271 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: they're so pitiful and it's honestly stupid of them to 272 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: think another performative, angry, crazy black girl hit piece will 273 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: do anything to bring me down. The wild part is 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: like to say, they're crazy to think that this angry, 275 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: crazy black girl hit piece will bring me down. 276 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: They didn't even respond to her because. 277 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: She not worth it. Why would you? But like she 278 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: is convinced like they were gonna try to take me down. 279 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: It's just I was that's so she's just so wild man. 280 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: And I saw some of the like screenshots of it, 281 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: and like the stuff that she had said on Instagram 282 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: where she said his family made all that money in 283 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Africa from like all this stuff, Like I have no 284 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: idea what's true because it's her correct, you know, like 285 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: did she do research on this or is she just 286 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: saying the latest thing that you know she can kind 287 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: of pull out her ass and accuse him of doing so. 288 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: You know, I have no idea, she said, They're both 289 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: too fucking crackheads. 290 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: He's on tweet he's on tweeting on. 291 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: Acid, fucking up his own stocks and whatnot, a real 292 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: life dummy. I have no idea. All because he needed 293 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: a date to the mech Galla to hide his drinking, 294 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: his shrinking dick from Amber heard lol. A fucking rebound, 295 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: a beta mal who took steroids and got hair plugs 296 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: to convince himself he was out for There's no reason 297 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: that in his dis coollabed with crimes. I know so 298 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: much about Elon Musk and quotes Grinves is really an idiot. 299 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: We both agree on that one. Baby, Why do you know? 300 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Why would she try to deal with you? And Elon 301 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Musk is really a part of the problem when you 302 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: talk about white male privilege and colonialism. His family's wealth 303 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: is ruted in Emerald and or Mins in South and 304 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Southern Africa during the part time this trash ass Bata 305 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: mail Pig was given his start in life. Because it's 306 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: disgusting racist parents took advantage of thousands of black people. 307 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Ask Elon Musk what the fuck he does for Africa nothing, 308 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: He ignores it. These fake ass libertarian shit bags. Like 309 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: I said, no idea if anyone's confirmed you of that, 310 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: or if it's true it's Azalea Banks. So you just 311 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: got us sit there and let the bird be spicy. 312 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah she will. People you go okay, 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: like I mean, you don't. I don't respond either way 314 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: to him, I'm. 315 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: Like, okay, yeah, good luck to everybody, beautiful beautiful gowns. 316 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: I mean you should have known you by her in 317 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: the house. 318 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: How I could go, That's what I do not understand. 319 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: But this is what How do people ever. 320 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: Around you know? How I say, like, I feel like 321 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: our Twitter experience is much a much smaller title circle 322 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: than we think because you feel like, oh, these are 323 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: the way of the world. This must be the way 324 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: the world feels because I'm in this bubble. But it 325 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: can't be. That can't be right. There must just be 326 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: a whole lot of people who like, maybe they know 327 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: about Isaia Banks music, or maybe they know of her, 328 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: but they don't know it's all the details of her 329 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: and to them the same shit, you know, So I 330 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: don't know, like they somewhere somebody being like, oh yea, 331 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign up with her and collab with the song. 332 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: And if they would ask anybody I know, they'd be like, oh, 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: you should not do this. Speaking of you shouldn't do this. 334 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Your research m I said, do your research. 335 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Google somebody speaking of research. Niga minaj is x 336 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Safari accuses her of violence the song Oh Nigga Minajen 337 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: her boyfriend, a rapper and love and hip hop starts. 338 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: Safari Samuels engaged in a vicious Twitter battle today, with 339 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: each making claims about evins that took place during the relationship. 340 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: Nicki and Safari dated for twelve years and broke up 341 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. Among the Minia, see I blame Insecure 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: for this because Insecure comes back and all of a sudden, 343 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: everybody on the timeline fighting for no reason, no reason, 344 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: bringing up old shit relationships. She was looking at day 345 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: on that, you know, like while Eastu was on the couch, 346 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: and she just got the tweeting. I guarantee that's what happened. 347 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: You know, you can get it all up in their feelings, Safari. 348 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Some one tweeted about the Lawrence Hive and next thing 349 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, we done got here, him and his ex 350 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: sub tweeting each other. 351 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Oh. 352 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: Among the mini accusations, Safari claimed that at one point 353 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: he needed to be hospitalized after Nicki cut him and 354 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: he almost died. 355 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Shit. 356 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: Remember the night you cut me and I almost died. 357 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: The police an ambulance had to take me out the 358 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: crib on the stretch, and I had to lie and 359 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 2: tell them I was trying to kill myself so they 360 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't take you to jail. When things like that start 361 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: happening more than once, it's time to depth. She responded 362 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: by accusing him of lion and also still at her 363 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: credit card. 364 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: You stole my card and told me you thought it 365 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: was an account. 366 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: With free money and that I didn't know about On God, 367 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: God will strike you down and more for lying. Ha, 368 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: Stop saying you packed and left I on you left 369 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: on Jesus? Are you came to my house crying, begging 370 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: to go with me to Europe to the EMA's. I said, no, dummy. 371 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, the song Better Lives from the album 372 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: Pink Print, NICKI rapped, I could tell you a lion, 373 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: get the fuck out, don't yell at me. I ain't 374 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: mean to cut you. I ain't want you. I ain't 375 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: want to catch a felony. So it's so clear that 376 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: those lyrics are about the same situation that Safaris described 377 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: and tweet. Pitch Forecast reached out to representative Nikki for 378 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: more information. Safari sued Nikki back in May twenty sixteen 379 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: e legend physical and emotional abuse. He dropped the lawsuit 380 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: in October twenty sixteen, so in the change of heart, 381 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: the two have also previously fought publicly over whether or 382 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: not so far a ghost wrote some of Nikki's lyrics, 383 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: and the tweet from the day he wrote, how many 384 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: times have I said I never wrote your wraps? Nobody 385 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: even talks about that anymore? Hmhmm, Yeah, I mean, and 386 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: that's just the half of it. I think Tiger got 387 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: hit with some slander. 388 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 389 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: You know Tiger, the. 390 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: Dude that dates that little girl. Yeah, he used to 391 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: be dating. Uh which one of them Kardashian's or was 392 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: it one of the girls? Yeah, one of the underage 393 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: Kardashian family women. And somehow that was okay, even though 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: the age of consent is eighteen in California, And. 395 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Somehow, somehow everybody knows and it's not a problem. 396 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was never that was never a problem somehow, 397 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: uh At any rate, Tiger taught some. 398 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: Caught some strays. 399 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Which which is? Which is? Which happens sometimes when you, uh, 400 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: when people getting spicy on the bird, they just here 401 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: putting a double on the bird and seizing up that 402 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: next thing. 403 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's all in your eye. You was just 404 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 3: trying to observe. 405 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: So, yeah, she said, I should have never Who is she? Nicki? 406 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: Mi? 407 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: Not? 408 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: Oh same person? 409 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: Okay? 410 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he topped straight with a beef between Nicki and Safar. 411 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I should have never paid for that 412 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: goddamn hairline. I fell back out because God, it fell 413 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: back out because God don't like ugly used me. 414 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: But God had other plans. 415 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Who hairline? What I want to stand? 416 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: Nicki okay, and said she paid for Safar as hairline 417 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: like surgery to get his hairline store mhm. And even 418 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: if she did, she said, Tiger ship ain't fall back out. 419 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: Y'all went to the same doctor. Yours fell out because 420 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: God don't like ugly. 421 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh, he was like, bitch, what the fuck I 422 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: gotta do with hey? 423 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: So says, first off, me and Tiger didn't go to 424 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: the same doctor. We did it on the same we 425 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: did it the same day, different doctors. Listen. I don't 426 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: know if this has to do with first week sales, 427 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: but you need to finish your zen and don't talk 428 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: about VH one checks because the way you're acting, it's 429 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: like your auditioning to be on Love It Hip Hop 430 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: VH one checks, though she does. And I mean, I 431 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: don't know what them first week sales looking like for Nigki. 432 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Not good. I think I said a few if like 433 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: maybe one hundred thousand maybe. 434 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know uh bitch on Macal made a 435 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: bigger wave than uh niky far. 436 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I haven't heard it. All I 437 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: know was the reviews that people were saying, and a 438 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of people were saying it's not good. 439 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know knowing, I haven't heard much 440 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: of the music from her on the timeline. 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: But I have heard that bitch I'm too smooth. 442 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: See now you're going to head again. 443 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm a cow. I'm a cow. I'm yeah. I don't think. 444 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: I don't think she's playing for that like between now 445 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: she's gonna be disindulging cat probably, But yeah, everybody had. 446 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: Jokes about you know how. 447 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: People's hair was messed up. Tiger actually tweeted out a 448 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: link to his doctor with the phone number two get it. 449 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: That's right business. 450 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: Hey mm hmm, I look good. Just just caught astray 451 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: for no reason over there mind. 452 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Him, the doctor smiling because he gonna get some get 453 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: some glance over. 454 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: There, minding his underage business. Just just chilling. By the way, 455 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: this thing went on for like two hours. What Yeah, 456 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't no no quick one and done beef. This 457 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: ship lasted it for quite some time, like they might 458 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: still be going for all I know. They was talking 459 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: about people not playing her records, all kinds of shit. 460 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: Hm hmmm mm hmm. Nobody had time yeah as so. 461 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. As a result, the former hype man return Reality 462 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: Turn Reality TV Start took the Twitter to set the 463 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: record straight once for all but the Steve and I 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: responded to, sparking a two hour long Twitter be fueled 465 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: by lives or season old memories. Unless I really cared still, 466 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: I could not let the mention of someone's name get 467 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: me that rauned up Safari ro What that looks like 468 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: someone who either still cares or just holding on to 469 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: a lot of hate towards someone. How many times I said, 470 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: I never wrote your rasps. Nobody even talks about that anymore. 471 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: That was when Nikki said he stole her card. You 472 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: hold onto everything so far, responding, your problem with DJ 473 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: self is because me and him are so cool and 474 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: nothing else. You have a problem with Mona Scott because 475 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: you put me on the show, let all that ish go, 476 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: and now stole your card the winner, You gave me 477 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: the paying for it and had me doing ish with 478 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: We know each other inside out, he added, everything that 479 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: was for us. I didn't use your car for prostitutes. 480 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: We both didn't trust each other. You did shit, I 481 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: did shit. You said you were messing with me a 482 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: few years before y'all got together, and I'm not mad 483 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: at that. Towards the end, it got toxic and I 484 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: just packed up and left. I did things for Spike, 485 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: and so did you. I don't wish you bad, and 486 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't want us back together, just like I'm sure 487 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: you don't and I don't need you. You don't need me. 488 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: But we will always be linked to the in the 489 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: public no matter what. Remember the night you cut me 490 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: almost died. He said that, and you know what, I 491 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: still don't have no hate for you because I'm happy 492 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: in my own mind. Now enjoy your album dropping and 493 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: stop letting these people see you sweat this. Ain't you? 494 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: You too big to act the way you be acting. 495 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: No one on your level acts like that period In 496 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: turn me and I said, Sharika, I had a bet. 497 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: As soon as you knew me was about to come home, 498 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: your your crawl back, and you did come to my 499 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: house crying. Joyce was there, my whole glam was there 500 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: and left? Who you getting aired out on hashtag Queen 501 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: Radio two on Thursday, apologize to shut the fuck up, 502 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: as so far I continue? He highlighted, Oh, go ahead, 503 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 2: go ahead, you finished, as so far continue you highlighted 504 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: Not's most recent Twitter beef over self supporter Cardi B. 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: So what if DJ Envy and at DJ self support me, 506 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: they support you too. I've been in places and they 507 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: play your music all the time. Stop letting your. 508 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Hate for me reflect on how you treat others. 509 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: You hate me. I love you and want you good, 510 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: but I don't like you looking like you're losing it. 511 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: How was I begging to go to Europe with you 512 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: and you were in a full blown relationship towards the 513 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: end of ours, I knew it was a rap. I 514 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: still had an email when you hit me saying let's 515 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: beend Christmas together and work things out, so please stop. 516 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna zen and cleanse your behind 517 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: and body. What kind of zen is this? 518 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: What in the zen sorcery? 519 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Is gore? Bitch? You hit me and meek asking us 520 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: to get your dick picked back from someone minaj clap back. 521 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: You were playing with your dick in the shower by 522 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: yourself with sus and shit. I have the email where 523 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: you said you couldn't pay your electric bill and while 524 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: you lied on me, But go off. Cis they always 525 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: got to do that to mean like, oh you gay now, 526 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: I should have never paid for that goddamn hairline. So 527 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: she said that she continues feeling the tea. First off, 528 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: me and Tiger didn't Dwight. That's when he said he 529 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: didn't go to the same doctor. He says, at least 530 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: y'all know I was trying to keep the news my 531 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: news to myself. Now. Someone was trying to leak my 532 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: dick pic for years and I've been trying to stop 533 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: it forever. But is this supposed to be your promo run. 534 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm flattered that you feel talking about me can help. 535 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: I can't believe you're still mad. It's about to be 536 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: five whole years. There's no way I can hold on 537 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: to something that long. You can't front you, confront all 538 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: you want. You're not happy. Don't talk about my big 539 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: dick swinging in the shower video. No one knows about that. 540 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: One as to be subsided, and Minaj continue retweeting tweets 541 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: written in her favor and went on to promote her album. 542 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: Looks like these two have some unfinished business to handle, damn. 543 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what is going on in the that 544 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: was also on the bird can. 545 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: M hmm. 546 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: This is a verbal podcast, so you're gonna say something. 547 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: You just that that was a lot, that that was 548 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot. 549 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's It's interesting though, because like I have 550 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: felt that Nikki has been so out of pocket during 551 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: this run, and like I mean, I'm only speculating. I 552 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: don't know her, but it really feels like Cardi b 553 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: showing up and blowing up just fuck Niggi's entire image 554 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: and ability to look unpressed about shit. 555 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: She could have if she wanted to, but she opted 556 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: not to like, you know, I think it's some form 557 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: of I don't want to say intimidation, but in her mind, 558 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Cardy B just came out of nowhere. 559 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just it's weird because I think Carti is 560 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: so at least gives the she at least gives the 561 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: appearance of such unbridled honesty, transparency and just forthrightness. Well, 562 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: she's like, I might not be perfect, i might not 563 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: say the right thing all the time. I'm a human being. 564 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be better at certain shit. I make 565 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: mistakes of you know. She you know, she's always kind 566 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: of counted out because of her image. 567 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 6: You know. 568 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: But she's like, look, I was a stripper, I you know, 569 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: used to date a nigga that was in prison. Now 570 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm dating, you know, a trap rapper that people think 571 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: at shit. You know, she talks about like she'll bring 572 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: up like political shit. She really kind of gives a 573 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: herself in a transparent way with the whole like going 574 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: on Instagram and just talking about like I just bought 575 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: this necklace but I'm saving money for this or you know, 576 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: just all this shit she's been praying in and it 577 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: just feels like a lot of a lot of Carti's 578 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: moment in the sun really made Nicki, who's basically gonna 579 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: unchallenge for at least a good six seven years, is 580 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 2: the only mainstream woman act in rap that people felt 581 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 2: like deserve mainstream success. Correct, Not that these other rappers 582 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: weren't good or whatever, but just when it came to 583 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: stuff like Grammys and awards and shit, it was like 584 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Nicki and everybody else. 585 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Right, they do that. It can only be one shit 586 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to female rappers, even though there's a 587 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of other ones out there. 588 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: Right, So you know, it's just kind of this weird 589 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: thing to see her like you just I don't know, 590 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: it's just like people that look like they might have 591 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: it all together. I guess it's just easy to the pressure's. 592 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: On, correct, and is actually really a favorite body? 593 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also the well see, so two things. 594 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: One pressure is a motherfucker, I agree, because a lot 595 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: of it is self implied, like no one's making you 596 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: feel the pressure. You decide I'm feeling pressure. Nobody did 597 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: that to Niggi. Niggi decided that the pressure was on. 598 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: She needed to find some kind of way that you 599 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: serve cardy okay at least that's how it seems. Two 600 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: before the pressure was on, we all assumed you could 601 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: handle the spotlight to a certain extent because she's always 602 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: seen above the fray. I really loved the way. 603 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: She responded to remy Mid. 604 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people wanted to see a 605 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: battle and shit, and I was like, if she truly, 606 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: if this was this is like Drake versus push your teeth. Okay, yeah, 607 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: he ether me. I'm about to just drop the song 608 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: of the Summer and act like that didn't happen. And 609 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: if I'm truly the man, y'all will move the fuck on, 610 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: because you don't have a choice. If I'm not recognizing it, 611 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: then y'all can you know? It happens all the time. 612 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm in with common disc ice Cube and everybody was 613 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: like god damn, comment like he'll never come back from this. 614 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: Ice Q was like, yes I will. I'll start in movies. 615 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: I put out more video like I'm gonna just continue 616 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: to be ice Cube and it won't be shit. Nobody 617 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: can say because at some point you just gotta be like, well, 618 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: I guess it's over come on. And I think that 619 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: was one where Ferraki got involved, so it might not 620 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: be a one to one corolaria, but you know, like 621 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: at some point you just go like, no, we're not 622 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: on the same level, and then all fairness. Cardi has 623 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: kind of done that to Nicki, like NIGGI has shot 624 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: shot so many shots at Carti, like just very thinly 625 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: veiled you. I don't fuck with you shots. They've been 626 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: in public places together and Carti looking like, man, I'm pregnant. 627 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm not even on this shit. Like if you're gonna 628 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: be beefing, you're gonna beefing with me by. 629 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: Yourself, right, because Cardy is supposed to say, look, I 630 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: mind my own business. I'm about this music and I'm 631 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: about this money. 632 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: It's also like one of those beautiful things that happens 633 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: to good people. Toxic folks remove themselves from your life. 634 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: They do like you don't even have to spend a 635 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: bunch of times on my high. I had to cut 636 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: them off and get rid of them. It's like they 637 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: think they're punishing you by going away. I'm like, thank you, cool, 638 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with this bullshit no more. 639 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, we might not have no collapse together, 640 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: we might not go on on tour together. Nothing. You 641 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: don't you're not interested in there being more than one 642 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: at the top of the fucking you know, charts or whatever. 643 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: You Well, I'm gonna still be here and I'm gonna 644 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: still live my life and I'm never going away, so 645 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: all right, you know, it's all artificial pressure. And and 646 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: now what I was gonna say is hip hop has 647 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: traditionally done the there can only be one good, good 648 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: woman rapper at a time that they recognize as like 649 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: it's immediately a competition the queen of rap, you know, 650 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: like kind of it was the King of New York 651 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: in the nineties, but we still respected that there were 652 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: three four five people with claim to that title and 653 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: everybody would debate it. We don't do that with women rappers. 654 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: It's the queen of hip hop period. And then it's 655 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: it can just be one. 656 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's basically because the field is male dominated. Men 657 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: run shit, and they feel like it can only be 658 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: one woman. 659 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting, Karen, is it didn't always used to 660 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: be that way. 661 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: To me, in my pain, I feel like the eighty 662 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: late eighties, early nineties, there was a dearth of women 663 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: that were rapping and it wasn't like okay, Yo Yo 664 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: has to take out Queen Latifa. 665 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, Okay, well MC Light's gonna have to take out. 666 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: You know, money Love, like if Salt and Pepper has 667 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: to battle TLC or like we didn't have that. It 668 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: was just kind of like, yes, there are women and 669 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna be rapping and they're gonna be part of 670 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: hip hop, and we kind of like lost that over time. 671 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: You know, part of me wonders if that happened because 672 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: male rap became so misogynistic that it left no room 673 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: for women on the ticket. Because it's almost like how 674 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: can I wrap the way I'm rapping and then pretend 675 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: that I respect you? You know, I just wonder because 676 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: like it's not like women stop rapping, but the people 677 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: at the top that have power stopped putting them on 678 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: in a way that mattered. 679 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: And I think maybe fans even stopped listening in a 680 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: way that mattered. 681 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: Correct. 682 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: And the thing is a lot of women rappers they 683 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: wrapped about women shit. You know, they didn't. You know, 684 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: it's almost like like you said, because they didn't put 685 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: you on unless you basically imitate men. You had to 686 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: come in with a deep voice, You had to talk 687 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: about how you the baddest you had to talk about 688 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: how you fucked people up. And it was like, but 689 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: that might not want to do that. 690 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: And that will never really resonate because it comes across 691 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: fake to most women, because most women don't want to 692 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: live their life as you know, I'll fucking cut you 693 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: with a box cutter, and I'll kill you as fast 694 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: as a nigga to kill you. Most women don't want to, 695 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: like they're not looking up to that necessarily, like I 696 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: can out man or man. 697 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: And so you have that lane that's kind of like 698 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: has a ceiling on it. 699 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: The other one is sex, and I think a lot 700 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: of that happened because men were writing the raps for women. 701 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of like will sell sex and 702 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: then it's kind of a fantasy to men, and if 703 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: it's done right, it can still be a fantasy to 704 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: women because it's kind of empowering to be like I'm 705 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 2: in control of my sexual prowess and whatnot. Like Little 706 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: Kim's probably the last one I remember, but like Trina 707 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: is another one. But like, and you know, I think 708 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: a lot of that Little Kim shit came because that's 709 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: what big thought people wanted to hear and I. 710 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: Mean it wasn't wrong, but part but like part of 711 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 3: it is that. 712 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: But then, like, it doesn't make sense to me that 713 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: we have one Missy Elliot, one doll, you know what 714 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: I mean, a person that still hasn't won a Vanguard 715 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 2: Award from MTV, like, which is ridiculous because video Vanguard. 716 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: You think of Missy Elliott, Like, come on now, when 717 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: you think about somebody that changed the way the visual 718 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: medium was done in hip hop. 719 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean videos were never shot the same after she 720 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: came through. I don't care what nobody say. The shit 721 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: that Missy Elliott did at that time was motherfucking groundbreaking, 722 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: Like years ago, it's for the DVRs and all that shit. 723 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,479 Speaker 1: In order to catch it, you literally had to watch 724 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: that shit like live. It was a fucking event to 725 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: watch her shit. 726 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: Missy and Buster were the two people I remember in 727 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: the nineties that I was like, everybody has to see 728 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: their videos, yes, like like not no offense to other artists. 729 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are other people that were doing their thing, 730 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: But between Missy and Buster when I was in college, 731 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: it was like net They were at each other's next 732 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: Like it was very visual. It's like you ain't seen 733 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: such as such video. What the fuck y'all you need 734 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: to start with you doing right now? We gotta go 735 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: find this video. And that was before you could just 736 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: like YouTube video. You need to go to the cafeteria 737 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: and wait for motherfucking what was that on TV raps 738 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: or whatever? What was that? Hold up Cita? You had 739 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: to wait for Cedar's World ah, or you had to wait. 740 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: You had to wait for the show with Free of AJH, 741 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: like you had to wait for specific ship to be 742 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna see this motherfucking video and they were, 743 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: and like clockwork, they will always show you the livest 744 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: videos in the street. But that's not that's not what 745 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 2: a J and free show is named. Oh I forgot 746 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: the name of it for some reason. But like you 747 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 2: had to be there, you know. It's like yo, nigga, 748 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: we gotta get to the cabin four one six apart. Yeah, 749 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: like we did't even be in the cab, bro, let's go, 750 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: let's let's watch this can be popping, yeah, or like 751 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: let me go to the room before turn on MTV, 752 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: turn on BT. Were just sitting there and watch it 753 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: and like you saw those videos and it was like 754 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: so like that was a lane that Missy occupied. And 755 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: many people will say because they don't listen to lyrics, 756 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: they'll be like, well, Missy wasn't like overtly sexual like 757 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: Little Kim and uh, you know all you know and 758 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: Trina and shit, you need to listen to the words 759 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: because a. 760 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: Lot of people just it was a lot of eating 761 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: nass and yeah, fucking what what what did I Maybe 762 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: I listen to the wrong thing. 763 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: Nah, it was. I think a lot of that was subconscious, 764 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: Like people saw dark a brown skin, dark skinned black 765 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: woman that wasn't necessarily dressed scantily clad, that she was 766 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: heavy set. Yeah, that was heavier than you know, the 767 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: the rappers, the women rappers that had like thongs on 768 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: and ship like that. And so she rapped about sex 769 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: a lot, but she didn't necessarily sell herself as sex appeal, 770 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it was I think 771 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people kind of pushed her away way like, oh, nah, 772 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: she's she's not a sexual. I'm like, nigga, have. 773 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 5: You heard work? 774 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 6: It right? 775 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: Work? It is just porn. It's porn she is talking about, 776 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: Like I like work. It was the kind of ship 777 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: where you listen to it. 778 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 3: And like I think I want to fuck? 779 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 2: Do I want to fuck Missy? Is that what's happening 780 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: right now in sh am? I scared to fuck Missy 781 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: because whatever. I don't think I can come back from that. 782 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 2: I can't go back to regular having sex with people 783 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: after this ship that I don't even know how you 784 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: flip it and reverse it and talking tongues the way 785 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: that ship sounded like she was on some other ship, 786 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: you know, but it was like she still occupied a 787 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: different lane, you know. And that was a time where 788 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: you still had multiple women that were rappers, and you know, 789 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 2: we left Eye TLC. 790 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 3: Was on the scene at the time. 791 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: You had a ship the Brat, Like, come on. It 792 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: just feels like we lost that somehow. You know. Even 793 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: when we had crunk music, we still used to have 794 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: like mia X, you know, and we would have like 795 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 2: rappers in crunk music that even if it's a one 796 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: hit wonder, they still had a woman in the group always. 797 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: That was almost standard to have at least one. 798 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah knuck if you buck, yes, you know they had. 799 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: I was listening to Icons get crunked up the other day, 800 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: forgot they had a woman in the group. Through the 801 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: second verse, you know, not to mention obviously the great 802 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: Lawrence Hill, like you could. 803 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 3: It was just multiple artists at the time. 804 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 2: That were the lady of rage. Yeah saying, but now 805 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: it feels and this is not a distant anybody because 806 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying I listened to a lot of people, a 807 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 2: lot of women that are rappers now, But it just 808 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: feels like there's everybody's a hair's breadth away from where 809 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: they should be as women, where they put in the 810 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 2: time they credit their on sound and shit, I didn't 811 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: hear about Doja Cat until the fucking move thing this weekend. 812 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: I go listen to her album to day, I'm like, Yo, 813 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: this shit is dope. 814 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: Come on, that's the first time I have all I know. 815 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: I told you, all I seen was the Gift going 816 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: up and down this time not talking about moo. 817 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just had to like she had to 818 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: find a way outside of I guess the normal way 819 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: for people to make gravitate me like, wait, she's actually 820 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: really fucking dope, come on, you know, And there's a 821 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: lot of there's a ton of other artists like that, 822 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: you know, and like Rhapsody had a year of like 823 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: kind of being in the game about two years ago, 824 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: and then CARTI was last year, and it seems like 825 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: this year should be kind of Nikki's year back, you know, 826 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: because she's been on top traditionally, but she's been acting 827 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: so honoring and like prickly and sensitive to the slightest critique. 828 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to make of this, you know, 829 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: I thought she was really better than this. Now I 830 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 2: don't even mean that on some like right, I mean, shit, 831 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: I just really thought she thought of herself as I 832 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: am a better than these motherfuckers talking shit about me. 833 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 2: All I gotta do is keep existing, and I will 834 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 2: be on top or at least in the discussion every 835 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 2: time I dropped something. And like, I don't know, she 836 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 2: just got used to no competition. I guess. I don't know. Anyway, 837 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 2: the world too fucking big to think that you're about 838 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: to do that. 839 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: Shit fl especially the Internet has changed a lot since 840 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: she's been out, And like you say, people have other means. 841 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't grow the traditional ways right 842 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: and get their name out there, you know, like they 843 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: like they used to. And two things. One time, I'm 844 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. The thing about Missy Elliott, Missy Elliott, she 845 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: was the larger woman, and she was confident in her weight. 846 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: So I think for a lot of people, particular heavier women, 847 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, period women, period, but this heavy women was like, hey, 848 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: she doing her thing and she not this this skinny 849 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: broad and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's like 850 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: she was very non traditional. So, like you said, that's 851 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: why a lot of people kind of pushed her to 852 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: the side and back. And with Cardi B wan to 853 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: think about Cardi b regardless if it's true or not, 854 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: kanneb put us up, puts out an image that like 855 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: she's actually pulling out herself in a very truthful manner. 856 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: She doesn't feel like she's structured if that makes sense, 857 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: or mold it to be presented to you in a 858 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: certain way. And I think that women enjoy sex and 859 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: they like sex and like the thought bops and all 860 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: that shit, like women are actually. 861 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: Here for that. 862 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 863 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: And then another thing with Missy she wrote all this 864 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: shit too for other people. 865 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: But she's a really she's a fucking she's she's an icon. 866 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: She really is. Like it's amazing how much shit she 867 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: was able to, like, uh, to get done. You know, 868 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: seven oh two would have been nothing without Missy and 869 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: seven oh two had a whole straight up like moment 870 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: in music. They had to see that it was fine 871 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: and it just sounded like Missy covers Alia won in 872 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 2: a million all these one, two, three, four, fun, six, seven, 873 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: eight nine tracks. Like as much as people miss Alia, 874 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: they also are missing that Missy was back there, like 875 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, genuine g things. She got a writing credit 876 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: for that ship. Yeah it's Dina Howard cranked me up, 877 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, baby doll Puff dadd in the family. It's 878 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: all about the Benjamins. 879 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had her hands and I ate a lot 880 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: of different things. 881 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really wow. Ninety eight MC like seven 882 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 2: and seven she did three songs on that like Yo 883 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: yo two songs on her joint Total God damn, like 884 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 2: every song on Total like this is crazy that yep, 885 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: Like I still remember when she was. I still the 886 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: first time I heard her, I think was when New 887 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 2: Audition tried to make a comeback and she had that 888 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: verse on their single was she like he he yes, 889 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 2: And I was like who is that? 890 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 3: And boom, Like she was everywhere after that joint. 891 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's honestly amazing that, you know, like 892 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 2: I said, she hasn't even gotten. 893 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 3: A Vanguard Award, which is which is insane. 894 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: Damn. 895 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 3: She did Ugly by Bubba Sparks. Like that's the other 896 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: reason you know she did ship because I know these songs. 897 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 2: But these niggas are done never never heard anything and done. 898 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 899 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, it's but I still don't I swore 900 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: she did tweet. Yep, she did call me by tweet that. 901 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: Was said she did jazzline Sullivan's first City. 902 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, man, she I mean, she's done 903 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: everything for everybody. So to see that people kind of. 904 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, to see that we can't have that 905 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 3: in music anymore. 906 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: It's kind of sad, you know that we kind of 907 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: lost the quote unquote female rapper. But I feel like 908 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 2: it's coming back. And maybe that's why that's why Niggi's 909 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: acting up, is because maybe the era of women talking 910 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: for themselves is coming back, when women being at the 911 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: front of some things, you know, as much as and 912 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm about to get into it because like I said, 913 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: it got spicy on the bird today. But as much 914 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 2: as people feel like Laurence Hill may be a manufacturer, 915 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: like one hit Wonder with mis education, which I think 916 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: is kind of some bullshit because she also did two 917 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: albums with the Fujis, so it ain't as cutting dry 918 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: as motherfuckers try to make it like, yeah, she just 919 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: a miseducation. Like, no, nigga, we were mad hype, mad 920 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: hype off of Lauren before the motherfucking mis education came out. Right, 921 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 2: That shit was highly anticipated and delivered. But it wasn't 922 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 2: like we were like, who the fuck is Lauryn Hill? 923 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: Oh mis education? Wow, this woman is great, Like no, no, no, no, no, 924 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: people knew wo she was. If anything, we were more 925 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: surprised how good she could say and keep it going 926 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 2: for a whole album. But you know, let's get into 927 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: that too. So apparently Robert Glasper, who is like a 928 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: jazz dude, make some pretty dope, pretty dope albums actually 929 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 2: like ensemble albums and shit with all these like big 930 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: features on them and stuff. And he's a beast. He 931 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: is a beast. Well, he came for our girl, Lauren 932 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: Hill's neck, and it was too much. It was a lot. 933 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: I was just not. 934 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people know I'm in. 935 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: The ant hell. 936 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 3: Shout out to my fellow aunts. 937 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 2: And I'm not necessarily into the things that he had 938 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 2: to say. But you know, you gotta respect people and 939 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: their opinions. Everybody's entitled to it. I'll see if I 940 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: can find where he started talking, because I thought I 941 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 2: had the minute mark and now I lost it. Shit, shit, 942 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 2: if not, I gonna have to read the transcript of 943 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,479 Speaker 2: everything he said. But yeah, he went in on Lauryn Hill. 944 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: It was it was too much, man like. It's like, 945 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 2: people don't respect that a black woman trying to get 946 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: her chokers a line. You know, if it was a 947 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: fifty cent talking about getting his chockers a line, y'all 948 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: be cool with that. But it's Lauryn Hill. All of 949 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 2: a sudden, it's, oh, she don't be doing this. She 950 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: don't be doing that one time she did me dirty, 951 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 2: Like okay, nigga, move. 952 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 3: On, it'll be all right. Ain't nobody talking about you 953 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: no more. 954 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 2: I guess I gotta read it because the shit don't 955 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: want to Oh wait, now, I was going, what is 956 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 2: happening on this website? See is why black people can't 957 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 2: have nothing? Try to go on Madame Noir and get 958 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: this ship to play, and everything's popping up except the 959 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 2: damn video I don't know what's happening. 960 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: Okay, try this one more time. 961 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 2: Okay, our tweets? What the fuck is this? You know? 962 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't know? 963 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: You know. I'll come back to this story while this 964 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: page loaves. R Kelly is performing at Hulu Theater at 965 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden despite abuse documentary. Hulu and BuzzFeed are 966 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 2: currently developing a film about the singer is a lleged 967 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: abuse of women. R Kelly has announced that he will 968 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 2: perform at the Hulu Theatre at Madison Square Garden in 969 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 2: New York City September fifteen, one of Kelly's most high 970 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 2: profile performances in recent years, as the number of allegations 971 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: of sexual abuse against Kelly have continued to grow significantly, 972 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: derailing his career, but his booking is particularly notable for 973 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 2: another reason. BuzzFeed News is currently co developing a future 974 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: length feature length those egotistical hard personalities when you have 975 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 2: to now you want to play. 976 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 5: I don't want to ask who was like the ahole 977 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 5: or anything like that, right, but in this business you 978 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 5: come across the. 979 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 2: You motherfuckers, y'all really wait to. 980 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 5: Have to play for oftentimes or make well, well, this 981 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 5: is the thing in two thousand and five. 982 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 4: That's when I my career changed and I didn't have 983 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 4: to do anything they want to do, because that's when 984 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 4: I got signed. 985 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 5: That was on my own thing, you know what I mean. 986 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 4: So whenever I got into a situation that I realized, 987 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 4: oh okay. 988 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 2: I hopefully paused it. Now back to what I was 989 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 2: saying about R Kelly. 990 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 3: This nigga still performing? Man, nobody gets canceled, don't. 991 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: People don't believe I keep saying that. 992 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: Is he gonna perform his nineteen minute song? He might, 993 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: I admit, have people learn the lyrics to that now, 994 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,720 Speaker 2: because I know, I know how these motherfuckers. Are somebody 995 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 2: paying for these tickets? Yes they are. I don't even 996 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 2: know what's happening with this. I'm not he was canceled, 997 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 2: but apparently, oh no. 998 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: Nobody gets canceled. 999 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: All right? Now back to this. 1000 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 3: Oh I see so it didn't even pause. 1001 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 2: I just muted it. Is that what happened? 1002 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 5: Right? She's getting half a million dollars for the show. 1003 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: It's I gotta rewind. God damn it. 1004 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 3: Why people can't have. 1005 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 2: So you don't know how to go places and act? 1006 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 3: I see if this will work? 1007 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I've done that quickly. I've done that to a 1008 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 4: few few artists who I want to ask. I'll say, 1009 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 4: I'll say your name. 1010 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 5: Were you ready? Lauren Hill? What why? Lauren? Here? Like no, No, 1011 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 5: why do you do me like that? 1012 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 4: I mean, if you ask any musician, it's most people 1013 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't know unless you know musicians that's played for her. 1014 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 5: But I did this. I did a show with Lauren. 1015 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 4: This is two thousand and eight, I guess from blanc 1016 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: Jurery Corporation. Right, She's getting half a million dollars for 1017 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 4: the show. It's a twenty minute show. 1018 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 5: My friend was a MT. He said, Rob, we're going 1019 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 5: to show in la Do you want to do the show? 1020 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 5: Mind you? 1021 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 4: Two years prior, she had been calling me trying to 1022 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 4: get me to come to her house to audition. I'm 1023 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 4: already assigned artists. I'm traveling the world on my own thing. 1024 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 4: I don't do auditions. So I was like, sorry, I 1025 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: don't do auditions. If you want me, you can listen 1026 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 4: to my album like that, I'm my auditioned. 1027 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 3: So, first of all, he was being rude to miss Hill. 1028 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: Can we just note that right away all she wanted 1029 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: to do was have him audition and he decided he 1030 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: was too big for auditioning, but she too big to 1031 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 2: be respected as the person that's headlining and getting half 1032 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: a million dollars. They didn't pay her half a million 1033 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 2: dollars because she's nobody. They pay her half a million 1034 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 2: dollars because they find out she's half a million dollars 1035 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: more dollars important than you. So how about that they 1036 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: think that she is four hundred and ninety thousand dollars 1037 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 2: more important than han't y'all last? 1038 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 3: And you got the nerve to bite the hand and 1039 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 3: tried to feed your black ass. 1040 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 2: I don't now, Rob that could have came across, but 1041 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: she was calling, how you gonna win, Robert when you 1042 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 2: ain't right with it? 1043 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 5: Let me talking about play from me out with the phone. 1044 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 5: I'm not No, you're not doing that? Yeah, can you 1045 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 5: play with the phone? Then? 1046 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah, Like I'm like, nobody. Do have 1047 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 4: albums out number one? Giants albums on the other charts? 1048 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 4: If you like, you can check those out and then 1049 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 1050 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 6: But I'm not. 1051 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 5: I'm not auditioning. 1052 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 2: She got albums out too, okay, what of them might 1053 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 2: be called the mis education of Lauren Hill. Have you 1054 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: heard of it? Because you wanted to turn around and 1055 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 2: this that album? But your sh it ain't never charged 1056 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: harder than that. They always got so safe to say so. 1057 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 5: So then my boys like, yo, and Lauren has a 1058 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 5: show in New York. You want to you want to play? 1059 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, what's the deal? He's like rehearsing 1060 00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 5: for one. 1061 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 4: Week for even to show up, Like, oh, okay, cool, 1062 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 4: so we rehearse a whole week. 1063 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 2: First of all, what's wrong with that? So you don't 1064 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 2: like rehearsing no more, you don't like practicing. So that's 1065 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: her work ethic that she wants y'all to be sharp 1066 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: so that when she shows up, she ain't gotta go 1067 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 2: through all that shit. But now you don't even want 1068 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 2: to rehearse for it for a week. You already see 1069 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 2: you already. 1070 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: Losing me rob. 1071 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 4: Like ten hours a day every day she comes in 1072 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 4: and changes the show, changes what she wants to do completely. 1073 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 3: We're like, okay, because Chaka's changed every day, bitch, what 1074 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: the fuck you know? 1075 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 5: Anyway, the last rehearsal, she doesn't show up. 1076 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 4: Her manager shows up and says, Lauren's not really feeling 1077 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 4: the way you guys have been learning the music. 1078 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 2: So we're gonna because you came in with a funky 1079 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: ass attitude. You wouldn't audition, you wouldn't play over the phone. 1080 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: You had a steak attitude about rehearsing all week for 1081 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 2: a twenty minute gig, a twenty million minute half a 1082 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: million dollar gig. Nigga, get your ass in there and 1083 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 2: practice what you're not getting compensated enough. Just say no. 1084 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: You could have said no at any point. They could 1085 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: have found the next jazz artist to do the damn 1086 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 2: back in. It's not that complicated. Jesus Christ, I swear 1087 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 2: to God. Black men, you see how they do massage, noir. 1088 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 5: Cut your paying half what the last rehearsal, Yes. 1089 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 2: Yes, cut their pay in half because they given half 1090 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: the motherfucking effort. It don't sound right, It don't feel right. 1091 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be on halftime where y'all gonna get half paid. 1092 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't even damn about your chakra, your talk, one 1093 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I don't want to get paid one hundred percent. 1094 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: They don't do it. 1095 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 5: Before the show. We're gonna cut your pay in half. 1096 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 4: First of all, we won't get paid that much anyway, 1097 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 4: But I understand she can't have a million dollars. 1098 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, so seriously, you're gonna take these five music? 1099 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: First of all, stop worrying about my pockets. Okay, maybe 1100 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 2: when you get half a million dollar gigs, you can 1101 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 2: turn around and feel how you want to feel about 1102 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 2: the band. It sounded like you're little jealous, brother, because 1103 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 2: black women make more money than black men. Is that 1104 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: the problem? How about you step your game up? Oh 1105 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 2: meet people? 1106 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 3: Sick of this ship? I know what I'm saying, Yes exactly. 1107 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 5: Okay, do you feel like y'all were missing up? Though 1108 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 5: not at all. It's a super bands. Not at all. 1109 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,479 Speaker 5: We worn'd I've seen. That's a fair question. 1110 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 4: No, But she has the thing of she likes to 1111 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 4: fire bands. I can name you, I can rattle off 1112 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,479 Speaker 4: fifteen guys. She will go on tour with a band, 1113 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 4: and in the city that they're doing a show, she'll 1114 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 4: hold auditions for her band. 1115 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 5: Wait a minute, who does that? 1116 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 2: A person that wants the best band every time out? 1117 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 2: Why is what's so wrong? When you scared of a 1118 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 2: little competition, you're supposed to be the greatest. It sounds 1119 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 2: like you're scared to play it sounds like you're scared 1120 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: of the audition, and it sound like you're scared of her. 1121 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,959 Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't know why. What's that disagree about? 1122 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: Don't waste my time, it's all he wasted her time. 1123 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 2: She come in, y'all sounded funky, y'all got an attitude. 1124 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 2: Maybe if you would have auditioned over the phone, she 1125 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: would have been to tell you, like I didn't change 1126 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: it up. 1127 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 1: It's something you can audition on the phone, but something 1128 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: like that you gotta do in person. 1129 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 3: M m Nope. 1130 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: She has a beautiful ear, and she can hear, and 1131 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: she can tell the sound over the phone. Can I 1132 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 2: trust Misshill more than whoever the hell Robert glasper thinks 1133 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: he is. 1134 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not in heel. 1135 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 4: So now she'll go on to her this happened to 1136 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 4: one of my boys, or feel my boys, but this 1137 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 4: one particular. 1138 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 5: They flew to Japan to do shows in Japan. 1139 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 4: While she's in Japan, she's holding auditions in the hotel 1140 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 4: in the ballroom. 1141 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,479 Speaker 5: For her band. 1142 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 3: Damn, so what Japanese people are not supposed to be 1143 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 3: able to play music. 1144 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't this sound kind of racist to me? Don't 1145 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: sound racist to y'all. Robert Glaster, don't want people to 1146 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 2: compete with Javanese people. What kind of shit is that 1147 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 2: Javanese people are not supposed to be able to get 1148 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 2: jobs playing music? 1149 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Rod, why didn't she hire them? 1150 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 6: Then? 1151 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 2: That's what she was trying to do. She was auditioning 1152 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: them to see if they were better than the band 1153 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 2: she brought. Because if they were, hey, y'all, well, thank 1154 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: you for coming out. Take your ass back to America. 1155 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 2: Me and this Japanese band are gonna play now. I'm 1156 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 2: giving more people opportunities. But a lot of times, see 1157 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 2: this black man just want to be the white people 1158 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 2: of black people. They want to monopolize this black woman's time. 1159 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 2: If this would have been Prince, they would have been 1160 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 2: up here, like you know what. It's an iconic legendary story. 1161 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 2: Remember when Prince came in and he saw how this 1162 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 2: band was not playing good enough, and he auditioned a band, right, 1163 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: and they motherfucking face, and then he went on and 1164 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 2: performed all night long. 1165 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 3: With this band. 1166 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 2: Everybody's like, oh my god, I stand, I stand, but 1167 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 2: for this motherfucker comes in and says it's about miss 1168 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 2: hill An icon and a legend, and then we're supposed 1169 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: to just take his word for it because she ain't 1170 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 2: show it to a few concerts a time. Wow, how 1171 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: quickly y'all turned on somebody on a black woman. How 1172 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 2: about y'all cancel with Robert Glassber if y'all want to 1173 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 2: help somebody. 1174 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I've never said, I've never heard of his music, but 1175 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: the way people sound is he's really good. 1176 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Oh, he just sounds good because he's hated on a 1177 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: black woman. Care don't fall for that shit. 1178 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 5: No, so for good and nothing's wrong. Like the bands 1179 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 5: are good. She gets the best musicians. The bands are 1180 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 5: always good. She just has a thing. I know where 1181 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 5: it is, but it is a thing. 1182 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 4: So anyway, anyway, so the last rehearsal, they come, they 1183 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 4: go around to everybody like, y'all cool with that, We 1184 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 4: couldn't payin half? 1185 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 5: You're cool, you can basically like, if you're not cool, 1186 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 5: you could leave. 1187 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 4: I didn't need that gig. I'm making money on my own. 1188 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 4: I have my own career. At that time, I'm like, well, 1189 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,479 Speaker 4: I was even beat Patty. 1190 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 5: I never forget it. I was even beat Patty. 1191 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 4: And I was like when I finished my bet Patty 1192 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 4: I'm going home, so y'all can do what y'all need 1193 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 4: to do. 1194 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,959 Speaker 2: Good bye, gone. It's fine before somebody to do twice 1195 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: the job I have to pay. That ain't shipped to 1196 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: a player like Miss Hill. She can go up there 1197 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 2: before and with a tamoreine by herself if she got 1198 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: to lucky. She was even trying to give y'all some shine, 1199 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: and you mad salty like that beef Patty. 1200 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 5: But look, I'm the principal. I'm the piano. 1201 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 4: I'm the piano player. I'm the principal piano player. I 1202 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 4: know they need me the gigs tomorrow, you know what 1203 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 4: I mean. So I'm like, I'm going home. I walk out. 1204 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 4: The manager runs and first of all, before these she 1205 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 4: even came in my the MD. My friend was like, 1206 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 4: just see, you know, don't look at her an eye, 1207 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 4: call her miss Hill? 1208 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 2: So respect out of respect? 1209 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 3: What's wrong with that? 1210 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 2: Is that so hard to do? Like it sounded like 1211 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 2: you came into it with a funky ass attitude and 1212 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 2: you didn't respect her before you even took the gig. 1213 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Then don't take the gig. I'm sorry, Like, I know 1214 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: you want me to feel bad for him, but I 1215 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 2: don't feel bad for him right now, say no, you 1216 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 2: know that's yes, they would. That's the job. That's the job. Nigga, 1217 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 2: you knew what it was when you got the job. 1218 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody else walking around complaining like this about her 1219 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 2: but your ass fifteen musicians, but all of them quiet 1220 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 2: hell out of here, chess cleared. They was cool. I 1221 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 2: know he didn't say nothingody her arriving late and not 1222 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 2: being on time either. So this is just him hating. 1223 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 5: Don't look at that. Don't and you have to call 1224 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 5: him miss Hill, don't look at that. 1225 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 2: Which also j Loo, same thing. What was all the hate? Right? 1226 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Jalo America? 1227 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Sweetheart? 1228 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 2: She got the same rules, Mariah Carey, same rules called 1229 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 2: being a diva, but I guess it's different when it's 1230 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,439 Speaker 2: a black woman. Then it's just called being a child. 1231 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Say what you want to say, Ron call her dog 1232 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 2: like Trump did on Rosa. That's what you want to say. 1233 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 2: You can't depend on black man for ship. It's really sad. 1234 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 5: One of the days of rehearsal, she was like, Robert, 1235 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 5: I need you. Bah. 1236 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, Lauren, respect, I respect, respect, respect, 1237 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 1238 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 5: You know you can't come into a situation. 1239 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: So here he goes. 1240 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Lauren, so he disrespected her on purpose? 1241 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 2: You see that? Did you just peep what he just did? 1242 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 3: Hey, don't look in the eyes. Call him as hell. 1243 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Lauren, Well, who are you even retaliating against at 1244 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 2: this point? 1245 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 3: You don't like her because some ship that didn't even 1246 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 3: happen with you? 1247 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the white people, black. 1248 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 4: People, especially when you've already stolen all of my friends music. 1249 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 4: Miseducation was made by a great musicians. 1250 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: I know. 1251 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Now he's just gonna throw fake news up in 1252 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 2: our face. He just gonna lie and say she out 1253 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: here stealing music. You fo steal in music? 1254 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Like if Lauryn Hill wasn't singing that shit, that music. 1255 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Would have been just as lit. Well, whatever musicians are now, 1256 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 2: why they ain't make another Lauryn Hill. It has not 1257 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 2: been another Lauryn Hill since she made Miseducation? Why has 1258 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 2: that not been another one? It's so easy, right, just 1259 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 2: put Sierra on the track and let her sing and rap. 1260 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 2: It will be like, oh my god, it's so easy 1261 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 2: to do it. 1262 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 3: Lauryn Hill. 1263 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Does. We've been begging for this woman to get back 1264 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 2: on her ground for twenty years because she gave us 1265 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 2: that crack and nobody's come close since Nika Minaja hearing 1266 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 2: people dms, you ain't ever have to worry about Lauren 1267 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 2: DM and nobody because she don't get on the internet. No, 1268 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 2: she's not about to d M. Robert Glasster. She about 1269 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: to just align her chockers, take all this up and 1270 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 2: absorb her energy. She might miss a show it too 1271 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 2: because of this interview, Nah, because of this man trying 1272 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 2: to affect her mental health. 1273 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 3: Gaslight in her. It's really sad, is what it is. 1274 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 5: And you know what all of us. 1275 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: You feel me though. 1276 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 5: This one. Okay, this show is known for getting people. 1277 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready. 1278 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 5: I'm ready. 1279 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 4: I don't care because nothing I'm saying is a lie. 1280 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 4: The point the point to me where the lie is. 1281 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Then we have a conversation. But if she looks at it, 1282 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 4: it's very it's one hundred truth. That's why they got their. 1283 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 2: Money, you know, I mean, so hold up, she stole 1284 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 2: the music, but they got their money. She stole the music, 1285 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: but they. 1286 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 3: Got How do you how do I steal something but 1287 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 3: pay you for it? M Ain't that some ship? M okay? 1288 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 2: Because I would call that paying for something, not stealing something. 1289 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: But you know, tell it the way you want to 1290 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 2: tell this is. 1291 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 5: Gonna be a controversial interview. 1292 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: That's why she rearranges the music on the tour. 1293 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, all kinds of stuff. But I guess whatever. 1294 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is this. 1295 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 2: Keep in mind he actually does not know that that's true. 1296 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 2: So he just went and said, yeah, that's why did 1297 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 2: he realized that he was he was talking about something. 1298 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 2: He don't know what the fun he's talking about. It 1299 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,919 Speaker 2: was like, I mean, I guess, I don't know. Yeah, 1300 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 2: get sued, keep sucking around, see us in court. 1301 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 5: I went into it knowing, Okay, you still music. You 1302 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Lauren Hill. 1303 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 4: I've met Stevie Wonder and hung out with Stevie. I've 1304 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 4: met Quincy Jones, hung out with Quincy Jones. I've met 1305 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 4: Herbie Hancock, hung out with Herbie Hancock. Those three people 1306 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 4: can be. 1307 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,479 Speaker 2: So it sounds to me like you came to those 1308 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 2: three people without a fucking chip on your shoulder or attitude, 1309 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 2: and they just happened to all be what three black men? 1310 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Could it be that you're a little 1311 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 3: bit of a misogynist? 1312 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 2: Robert Glasper. Could that be it? Did you hate Lauryn 1313 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 2: Hill because she's a black woman? I noticed you ain't 1314 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: name not one black woman this whole time you've been 1315 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 2: talking about hmhmm, coincidence. I'll never listen to a Robert 1316 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 2: Glasser album ever. Never this. 1317 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 3: He just lost a fan right now. 1318 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 4: It's over, Lauren Hillsville to be cool. You haven't done 1319 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 4: enough to be the way you are. You just have 1320 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 4: not the one thing you did that was great you 1321 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 4: didn't do Who else did it? 1322 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 5: Boom? 1323 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 2: Why them musicians didn't gang up together and go on 1324 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 2: tour by theyself? The miseducation of a bunch of niggas 1325 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 2: I never heard of my life? Why didn't they do it? God? 1326 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 2: What trying to take the credit for a black woman? 1327 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 5: Come on, like, I'm out here. 1328 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm out here. 1329 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 4: She didn't make now and look what I'm saying is 1330 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 4: she took the credit from making the classic album. Those 1331 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 4: songs were written by other people and they did not 1332 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 4: get their credit. She likes to take credit so she 1333 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 4: can become this superperson. If you're a superperson and you're 1334 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,640 Speaker 4: that talented, do it again? Do it? 1335 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 2: You feel me? Well? 1336 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,719 Speaker 3: Why they not doing it again? That's why I'm understand. 1337 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Where are these people's miseducation and classics at Like, are 1338 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 2: we just giving over this big asshole in his argument? 1339 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh we just do it again? Why they not doing 1340 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,560 Speaker 2: it again? Like it's that thing that people do with 1341 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 2: Drake where they're like, he don't write his own songs. Okay, cool, 1342 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 2: but that's not seventeen Drakes cause all the niggas that 1343 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 2: do write that shit can't be Drake. They need each other. 1344 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,799 Speaker 2: That's what it is. A album is a collaboration. Nobody 1345 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 2: does it by themselves. They all need somebody. You know, 1346 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 2: it's just only one. You got two sets of hands, 1347 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 2: and you got to one set of hands, and you 1348 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 2: go on stage, you play one instrument at time. That's it. 1349 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Other people gotta take up the slack. It's not like 1350 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 2: Prince just went on stage byself every time and said, 1351 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 2: let me play our seventeen instruments and once he got okay, 1352 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 2: I need she you to get these drums real quick. 1353 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,600 Speaker 2: It is what it is. Jesus, what this is disgusting. 1354 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,240 Speaker 5: Couldn't tune her guitar and rehearsal. We were rehearsal. She 1355 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 5: had my boy Benji her guitar, Benji. She was coming 1356 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 5: in rehearsal like this. 1357 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 2: You're always gonna have a nice con who cares about 1358 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 2: the guitar and who tuned and what? 1359 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 5: So what do you suggest? 1360 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 2: I suggest you just just keep playing man, and don't 1361 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 2: worry about what goes on at the top of things. Exactly. 1362 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 2: Don't worry about what goes on the top of things, Rob, 1363 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,560 Speaker 2: worry about you and your little homeboys. Okay, and a 1364 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: little bit of change that Lauren is given y'all for 1365 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 2: her half a meal for twenty minutes, gig. 1366 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Okay, just practice for the week like she told Joe, asked. 1367 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 2: To or lose half the money. Maybe wouldn't be eating 1368 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 2: some of beet patties. You would have been done rehearsing. 1369 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 2: You will sound good. She gonna have to show up 1370 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 2: and cut your pay. Did you think about that? M 1371 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 2: I ain't grateful. 1372 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 4: Look, she was coming to rehearsal and say she would 1373 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 4: come in rehearsal and say, benji guitar and just hold 1374 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 4: it out like this. 1375 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 5: He would run, Oh god, okay, this ain't. You can 1376 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 5: edit this later. Look I'm telling you to so anyway, 1377 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 5: she anyway. 1378 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 2: I leave her? What what about why she gotta know 1379 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 2: how to tune the guitar when she got Benji, is 1380 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: this not making sense to nobody else? I gotta view 1381 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 2: it myself, Benji. Well, Benji, now you tune guitar, bitch, 1382 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 2: that's what you do for a living. Okay, you're welcome. Okay, 1383 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: don't make me cut your pay and half good greed. 1384 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 5: Personal. I'm like, I'm eating my bet Patty, I'm leaving. 1385 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 5: I leave her. Run after me. They run after me 1386 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 5: to the middle of the street, Like, what what can 1387 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 5: we do? 1388 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 4: I said, well, before four o'clock, you can wire all 1389 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 4: my money into my account. Because I don't trust y'all. 1390 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 4: So if you want me to do this gig, you 1391 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 4: get to ride my money into my account within thirty minutes. 1392 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 5: That's what you can do. So I waited. 1393 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 4: They wrapped the moneyto my account and then I went home. 1394 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't do the rehearsal because they are 1395 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 4: disaffected me. I went home and then I came back 1396 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 4: and did the show. 1397 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 2: So One, you skipped rehearsal, what you promised to do, 1398 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 2: what she paid you for, and you got your full money. 1399 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 2: Two you got your money, nigga, what else do you 1400 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 2: want like I gotta give your money and talk to 1401 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: you softly. Fuck out of my face. Oh my god, 1402 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 2: you was like to look at her. 1403 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,679 Speaker 3: He was probably looking her in the eyes and calling 1404 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 3: her Lauren. I could tell you it was great. 1405 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 2: It went great. 1406 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 3: And you know why it went great because this Lauren 1407 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 3: fucking Hill. And when she coming there, you tell you. 1408 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Change the song or you're getting half of the money. 1409 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 3: She knows she was doing. And you showed up and 1410 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 3: you did exactly what she told Joe asked to do. 1411 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 3: You tuned up git tall like she said to us 1412 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 3: specifications and then she fucking rocked that shit. It may 1413 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 3: have a million dollars. Hey y'all mad, what the fuck? 1414 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Mm hmm? I will say that's why I don't help 1415 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 3: nobody just because of ship like this. 1416 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 2: Why can you help somebody next thing? You know, they're 1417 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 2: putting your business on the street. 1418 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 4: This there was one joyous moment and that that week 1419 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 4: there's a song called do wop right starts off of 1420 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 4: the panel. 1421 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 5: So one day she was just being a real you know, 1422 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, say what you want. 1423 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 2: To say, say it with your chest or real what 1424 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 2: bro mm hmm, what you think is gonna say, a 1425 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 2: real nice person can right massage noir? He know what 1426 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 2: he implied there, same thing Trump implied. 1427 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 5: So instead up, she was like the doup. Instead of 1428 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 5: doing up, I went bloom bloom boom boom, boom bloom boom. 1429 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 4: She looked at me and saying a verse and a chorus. 1430 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 4: We did a verse and the chorus of Joyful Jordan, 1431 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 4: and then she looked at me and it's like, okay, 1432 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 4: back to this, you know. So for a minute, like 1433 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 4: a minute and a half, Yeah, she normalized and became 1434 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 4: So it's in there. I really feel like she's something happened. 1435 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 4: People can change, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 1436 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 4: not shitting on her forever. 1437 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, coming up, But it's sound 1438 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: like you are because it's been a while, Rob and 1439 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 2: you're still mad. So when is it over? Because it's 1440 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 2: not like you shitting on her and it's been over. 1441 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 2: This ain't been a nice interview, nigga. What about your music? 1442 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 2: We spend fucking ten minutes talking about Lauren Hell? What's 1443 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 2: you do up to? What are you doing with your life? 1444 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,879 Speaker 3: Why you ain't made a mis education of Robert glasber 1445 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 3: So that I know your name. 1446 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 2: And your music. 1447 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 4: That's the stuff that really happened, and you're gonna have 1448 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 4: to take account of delay for it at some point, 1449 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And then you're good. 1450 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:52,719 Speaker 2: Like Maxwell. 1451 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 4: I just playing Maxwell, you know, I was playing Maxwell's 1452 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 4: the whole Pretty Wings two thousand and nine to twenty fourteen. 1453 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 4: The nicest guy, one of the nicest artists I've ever played. 1454 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 2: With, another black man. And you just didn't come in 1455 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,639 Speaker 2: with a chip on your shoulder, and y'all got along 1456 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 2: just fine. Interesting, just interesting, you know, good guy. 1457 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 4: Whenever he came to houstonble one piano, you know, like 1458 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 4: great guy. But he'll tell you he was like, man, 1459 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 4: my early years, you couldn't have been in my band 1460 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 4: in my early years because he said I was a 1461 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 4: whole different person. 1462 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 2: You know. 1463 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a whole different kind of dude. Like 1464 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 5: he can be honest and say that I was tripping. 1465 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 4: He was tripping, and he said it, and he wasn't 1466 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 4: like that with us at all, you know what I 1467 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 4: mean at all. So people can change, you know what 1468 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 4: I mean. So I hope she does change, you know, 1469 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,839 Speaker 4: But it's that those were real things. She just suspected 1470 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 4: a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot 1471 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 4: of musicians with families just cutting. You know, we just 1472 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 4: did something together. But it was remotely, you know what 1473 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 4: I mean. We did a tribute to Nina Simone album. 1474 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 4: It was called Nina Simone Revisited. She produced the first 1475 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 4: half and I produced the second half of it. So 1476 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 4: I produced the first half, she sung all the and 1477 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 4: she used her band. The second half I used other 1478 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 4: I used Jasmine Sullivan. 1479 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 2: I used he probably was mad she didn't want to 1480 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 2: use her for the first half of her bed but 1481 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 2: at the same time been shitting on her behind the 1482 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 2: scenes for fifteen years. 1483 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 4: This nigga, Oh my god, Andre Day. I used Greg Reporter, 1484 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 4: I used Usher, I used Mary J. Blige, and I 1485 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 4: use somebody else. 1486 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 5: So that's like half and half. 1487 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 4: But it's on you know, you can get it anywhere 1488 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 4: on any platform. But but you know, we're in the 1489 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 4: same room. But our CA was like, Robert, we want 1490 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 4: you to produce this album. And then they came to 1491 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 4: me a few days later, like Lauren wants to do 1492 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 4: it too, will y'all do it together? She was the 1493 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 4: first half of the second half, you know, so she 1494 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 4: don't even. 1495 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 2: Have a problem with this nigga. He may harboring this 1496 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 2: grudge all this time. I guarantee a million dollars he's 1497 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 2: never brought this up to her. 1498 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I've. 1499 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: Guarantee a million fucking dollars. He telling the fucking world 1500 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 2: about it before. He would pick up the phone and say, Lauren, 1501 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 2: can we talk this nigga to money a second time? 1502 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:02,759 Speaker 2: To do a Nina. 1503 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,480 Speaker 3: Simone collaboration where and still. 1504 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Ain't say I had a problem with you. You remember 1505 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 2: that gig in't appreciate that ship. Still, Oh my god, 1506 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 2: this boy niggas, I tell you, m mm hmm, can't 1507 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 2: work with them. 1508 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:26,839 Speaker 5: Well you've let's talk about that August Green concert? 1509 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 3: What ten years from now? You when shitting on the 1510 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 3: August Green concert too? 1511 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 2: My god? Anything else spy on his bird? Yes, the 1512 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 2: most spicing this out there. But I'm just I'm just 1513 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 2: thoroughly disappointed, thoroughly disappointed. Robert Glasper. I don't know what 1514 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 2: is excuse gonna be. When I thought the betch was white. 1515 01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 2: I thought the betch was white. Wow, that's probably what 1516 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna say when everybody called him out for how 1517 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 2: he talked about our queen. Because he don't need to 1518 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 2: talk about the queen of the Anhal Dog. Just keep 1519 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 2: her name out of her face. Okay, talk about your music. 1520 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 2: Sad really just because she and you know what, she 1521 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 2: just had to cancel a whole bunch of other days. 1522 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,839 Speaker 2: And it's probably because of this interview. 1523 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. It probably got back to her. 1524 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Fuck with her cheese. 1525 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,680 Speaker 2: She's like, man, I can't do no show with this 1526 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 2: man calling me a fraud because I'm a perfectionist and 1527 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 2: I want the music to be good and I want 1528 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 2: my bands to be up to snuff. Now, if I 1529 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 2: was a black man, I just be a badass, I 1530 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 2: be a boss, I be a perfectionist. But I'm a 1531 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 2: black woman, I'm a bitch. Oh yeah, he definitely tried 1532 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 2: to apply she was being a bitch. I agree. Yes, 1533 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 2: he did. Fuck him, fuck him and his music? How 1534 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,759 Speaker 2: about that? Dale Hughley talked about how his wife financially 1535 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,839 Speaker 2: supported his mistress. 1536 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,639 Speaker 1: His wife financially supported his mistress, That's. 1537 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 2: What he said, Okay, mm hmm. Yeah. He usually recently 1538 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 2: opened up about his cheating past and how his wife 1539 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 2: was financially supporting his mistress. During an interview with vladd 1540 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 2: the Communiy discussed, unfortunately, details ours cheating resulting a child 1541 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,560 Speaker 2: being born who was only nine months old and was 1542 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 2: killed by the Side Chicks. Their boyfriend, Jesus Now Hugh 1543 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 2: has added more to the story, noting that his wife 1544 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 2: stepped in to help financially support his mistress. Hughly said 1545 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 2: he eventually told his wife that he'd been cheating on her, 1546 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 2: and after not speaking to her for some time, the 1547 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 2: woman was now returning to his life. It needed money. 1548 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 2: I do not understand this shit. I mean, look, you cheated, 1549 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 2: that's fucked up. A baby is born. You think you're 1550 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 2: gonna just ignore the problem, like the woman just gonna 1551 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh well, I guess my child would just go unfinancially 1552 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 2: supported and not know his father because it's inconvenient. Like 1553 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 2: what kind of Kirk from Love and Hip Hop shit 1554 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,639 Speaker 2: was that? I mean, I know been in the situation, 1555 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 2: so I guess I can't say. But God, it just 1556 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 2: seems like you're compounding on top of the fuck up. 1557 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 2: That does not seem like a solution. Years later, the 1558 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 2: girl it jammed her up to like it did me, 1559 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 2: he said, She started asking for money. She needed some money. 1560 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 3: I told her my wife would have to take care 1561 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 3: of it because I couldn't. 1562 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 2: What does that mean? He went on to say that 1563 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 2: after speaking with one another, the two women came to agreement. 1564 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 2: So she and my wife started talking about talking, and 1565 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 2: my wife started giving her money. The condition was that 1566 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 2: she could never ask me and my wife to take 1567 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,640 Speaker 2: care of her. So my wife took it from my 1568 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 2: allowance that I've never gotten back. He isn't sure if 1569 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 2: his wife is still helping her out, but noted that 1570 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 2: he no longer gets in quote unquote allowance. I have 1571 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,560 Speaker 2: no idea what is going on in his household with 1572 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 2: his money. That sounds like a whole bunch of other stuff. 1573 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 2: Like I guess his wife man just the money and. 1574 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,679 Speaker 1: Must do and he must get like a certain percent 1575 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: of money because you know how a lot of rich 1576 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,760 Speaker 1: people run through their mond read read it quickly, so 1577 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: you know some of them actually do set allowances for themselves. 1578 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh you don't, you know, I'm not spending X amount 1579 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:06,879 Speaker 1: of money. 1580 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 2: Your week or day or whatever. He added that after 1581 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 2: telling the woman his wife that the woman was the 1582 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 2: mother of his late child, his wife told him sorry 1583 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 2: for your loss. 1584 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's a lot. 1585 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, some parts of this story you ain't telling. 1586 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, obviously some of it's his business and shit, 1587 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 1588 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: Of course, but like, but you didn't you didn't even 1589 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: have to tell us this. 1590 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1591 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 3: The thing that's interesting to me is. 1592 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,639 Speaker 2: I have felt for a long time and maybe he's 1593 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,560 Speaker 2: improved over the years, or maybe he just learned to 1594 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 2: stop talking about certain shit, but I always felt like D. L. 1595 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 2: Hewet as pro black as he was, he always had 1596 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 2: severe issues around women, you know, like he would like 1597 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,759 Speaker 2: as much as I'll be rooting for that dude, especially 1598 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 2: when he's talking about racial shit. When he gets on 1599 01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 2: TV and stuff, and I'm always like, yeah, man, go on, 1600 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, like talk about this racist president, this administration 1601 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 2: and some of these other pundits and shit. 1602 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 3: Because he can be so sharp and on point. 1603 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 2: He really made a Like when I first was introduced 1604 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 2: to him comedically, he was just like that dude on 1605 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,680 Speaker 2: comic view of Death Jam that made fun of the 1606 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 2: audience correct, and it was like, what a sharp wit 1607 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 2: this dude must have. 1608 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 3: But to see him transition to like political pundit and 1609 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 3: radio personality, yeah, TV show one period of time, the. 1610 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 2: TV show, like it's really been like, Wow, look, I 1611 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 2: like DL Hughley, like it's what a dope, dude, And then. 1612 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 3: He would just occasionally say certain shit. 1613 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 2: And I think all men, black men specifically especially kind 1614 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 2: of go through that like maturation process, especially when you're 1615 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 2: a public person. You like, all your shortcomings on certain 1616 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 2: shit start to come out. So if you're homophobic, it 1617 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 2: starts to come out because we don't have the coaching. 1618 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 2: We haven't been in that culture and part of that 1619 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 2: world long enough to really truly know those third rails 1620 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 2: that a lot of white people already know. Not that 1621 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 2: I think white men are better, they just know those 1622 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 2: rails right, Like they just know like, oh, if I 1623 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 2: say it's okay to punch a women in his face, 1624 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get like I will get canceled, like I'm 1625 01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 2: gonna have problems, So let me not say that. And 1626 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 2: a lot of times black men, whether it's because we're 1627 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,320 Speaker 2: the anti blackness of looking at us as less than 1628 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: or the fact that they hire a lot of black 1629 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 2: men to be the whacked third week, like oh, he's 1630 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,600 Speaker 2: gonna say something crazy or that's just his culture, you 1631 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 2: know whatever, we end up being the ones to say 1632 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 2: wild shit. But he's been on his own platform before, 1633 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 2: and I remember we talked about hitting like I think 1634 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 2: it was Columbus Short is that his name, the dude 1635 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 2: that we used to be on on on a Scandal, 1636 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 2: And I remember him talking about like that thing where 1637 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,799 Speaker 2: he choked his wife and was accused of physical abuse 1638 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 2: and he was excused and that shit, and it's like, 1639 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 2: come on, Dale, you're so sharp everywhere else, how can 1640 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 2: you be this insensitive and whatever? And then it got 1641 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 2: taken off the internet and he got it basically erased everywhere. 1642 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 3: But it was just kind of like, damn man. 1643 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,679 Speaker 1: Because it's about women, like you know, and everybody, everybody 1644 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:24,439 Speaker 1: has those quote unquote blind spots, but for a lot 1645 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 1: of men when it comes to women, it's just so 1646 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: glaring to everybody but them, right, and so to. 1647 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,640 Speaker 2: A certain extent, not that this excuses it, but this 1648 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 2: kind of is my moment of like, well, of course, 1649 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 2: like if you have these spots where you publicly just 1650 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 2: don't get how you're being disrespectful to women, then in 1651 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 2: your personal life, I'm sure you're doing the same thing 1652 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 2: to your wife. I'm sure the same thing to your mistress. 1653 01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 2: Even to be honest, I mean, like you know, as 1654 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 2: much as this is like a tragic sad tale that 1655 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 2: if you centering around him and whatnot, it's also just 1656 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 2: kind of sad for everybody, the women involved, the wife, 1657 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 2: the mistress, you know whatever, Like the child that was lost. 1658 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 2: You know the fact that you were negligent, you know, 1659 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 2: in that child's life, any you were planning on being 1660 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,719 Speaker 2: negligence to that negligent to that woman. 1661 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 1: And that child, right, you know, and like she was 1662 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,799 Speaker 1: just supposed to disappear. 1663 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 2: That's another big example of a lot of times women 1664 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,800 Speaker 2: have to be the one to step up to make 1665 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 2: sure that men are in their child's life, even when 1666 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,640 Speaker 2: you're with that man. How many men do we know 1667 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 2: that don't become good fathers to the child that they 1668 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 2: already had until they get with another woman who's like, 1669 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,720 Speaker 2: you need to step your fucking game up. I've heard that. 1670 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how many times I fucking heard 1671 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 1: that story about Nigga saying they not shit, and then 1672 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: some women come in their life. It was like, Nigga, 1673 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 1: if you gonna marry me, if you're gonna stay here, 1674 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you want this relationship to work, you 1675 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,640 Speaker 1: got to repair those other relationships you have to And 1676 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: my thing is that it's sad, but it shouldn't take 1677 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,560 Speaker 1: another woman to tell you to step up to the 1678 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,599 Speaker 1: plate and be a fucking daddy, to be a good man, 1679 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, and shit like that. You know, a lot 1680 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: of niggas get irritated when it comes to child supporting 1681 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: all this other bullshit. Well, people fed to realize that 1682 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: child is living a bubble. And it's one of those 1683 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 1: things where I feel like, once you bust that nut 1684 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 1: you as a man, everything beyond that point is side 1685 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 1: of your control. And men don't want to hear that, 1686 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 1: like literally everything beyond that point. If she decides to 1687 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 1: have a child or not, that's not your say. So 1688 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 1: that's her decision, you know, if you know, because the 1689 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 1: thing is, if you don't want to put everything in 1690 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,400 Speaker 1: her hands, you know what you do on the fucking condom, 1691 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 1: that's what you do to prevent these things from happening, 1692 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,640 Speaker 1: you know. And then it's one thing where it, uh, 1693 01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 1: it kills me when you know, you get into these 1694 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 1: dynamics and then you get into that that wore the 1695 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: sexes with a lot of shit. And you know, a 1696 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of men and you know, we talked about I 1697 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: feel like they have the right to women's bodies, Like, 1698 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 1: you're a woman, and I want your boy to have 1699 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the right to your body. Once I do what I 1700 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 1: got to do, I don't give a damn about what 1701 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: happens to you or that child after that, And then 1702 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: get mad when the woman be like, this child needs clothes, 1703 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 1: this child needs food. You know, is very hard to 1704 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 1: raise a child by themselves. And then the woman ends 1705 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,800 Speaker 1: up getting blamed for the man walking away. 1706 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said, it's it's amazing how often 1707 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,639 Speaker 2: that story of responsibility coming from the next woman, right 1708 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 2: cause his wife would have been just right to be 1709 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 2: like fuck you and fuck her, I'm out, you know, 1710 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 2: too bad about your baby by and here she is 1711 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 2: being like, Okay, we're gonna figure something out because the 1712 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,640 Speaker 2: right thing to do emotionally and like because at that 1713 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 2: point we're talking about emotional logic, because legally, after space 1714 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,640 Speaker 2: you have to the baby's dead. You probably have no 1715 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 2: obligation to that woman in a lot of people's eyes, 1716 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 2: in the corner of the law centally and stuff. But 1717 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 2: to then for it to take a woman, your wife 1718 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 2: to come in and be like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1719 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna take care of what the mess you made, 1720 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 2: the people you heard, And that's just the thing that 1721 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 2: needs to happen. And the ford to be a woman, 1722 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 2: I have to see that. You know, it's not that 1723 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 2: men are incapable of that kind of logic, but you 1724 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 2: see all men talk about child support like a punishment, 1725 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 2: like they talked. 1726 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 1: About we're not even get that. Shit fucking kills me. 1727 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: When it comes to that, black men basically become Republicans. 1728 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,600 Speaker 2: When you talk about child support, black men turn into Republicans. 1729 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 2: It's the only time they agree with Republicans. Yeah, because 1730 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 2: kids had at least possible and pull themselves up, but 1731 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 2: they bootstraps the way I did. 1732 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is, particularly when it comes to 1733 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,719 Speaker 1: child support, you act like men act like they didn't 1734 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: have nothing fucking to do with the child you fucked her. Yes, yes, 1735 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 1: pay child support if you are not gonna be there, 1736 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,200 Speaker 1: pay child support. 1737 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 2: Pay child support. They don't even be mad about they 1738 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 2: child support. They be mad about some other nigga they 1739 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 2: don't know, right, who absolutely can afford the child support 1740 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 2: child support, like they be mad about like Blake Griffin 1741 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,560 Speaker 2: or Future or something like some ridiculous shit. It just 1742 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 2: and the truth don't even come It doesn't even matter, 1743 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 2: the truth doesn't even come into play. It's just how 1744 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,880 Speaker 2: I feel as a man. I feel like I should 1745 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: not have to be responsible for any to any child period, Right. 1746 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,360 Speaker 1: It's irrational and it's illogical, and it does not It 1747 01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. Ain't nobody trying to take 1748 01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: your fucking half of your twenty thousand dollars a year, nigga, 1749 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 1: Nobody gives a fuck about that, even. 1750 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 2: If it's just like the other thing is, it's essentially 1751 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 2: if I'm not fucking the mom, then like if our 1752 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,719 Speaker 2: relationship hasn't worked out, I should not have to support 1753 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: the child that was created. The logic makes no sense, 1754 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,479 Speaker 2: m you know. 1755 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 3: And also the other part of it that's crazy to 1756 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 3: me too is. 1757 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 2: The dudes who are like, well, I don't want the 1758 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 2: woman that is taking care of my child, none of 1759 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 2: this money better go to anything that could. 1760 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 3: Possibly help her. 1761 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,960 Speaker 2: As that bullshit, as if what helps your child isn't 1762 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,479 Speaker 2: helping the woman, As if what helps the woman isn't helping. 1763 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 3: Your child, you know what I mean, Like as if 1764 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,600 Speaker 3: a place to stay or getting to your kid to 1765 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 3: a better. 1766 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 2: School or her having a more dependable car wouldn't be 1767 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 2: something that actually would help your fucking kid. Like it's like, 1768 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,800 Speaker 2: it's like in men's minds, and I think a lot 1769 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 2: of times because men don't truly love their children. 1770 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,320 Speaker 3: And that's the only way I can put it. 1771 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 2: And if that's offensive, the people that didn't, I don't know, 1772 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,600 Speaker 2: raise your children being their kids life. A lot of 1773 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 2: motherfuckers I. 1774 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 3: Know to this day, they've grown ass men. 1775 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 2: They got stories of the lack of love from their 1776 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 2: fathers that they've experienced. So and that's in and out 1777 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,400 Speaker 2: of the house. So it ain't just some shit I'm 1778 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 2: pulling out of the sky. But a lot of men 1779 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 2: don't truly love their children. They feel obligated to provide 1780 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 2: to their children, to the to the if they're in 1781 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,080 Speaker 2: the child's life, they feel obligated. But it's more obligation 1782 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,559 Speaker 2: than love for a lot of men, because we are 1783 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 2: really taught how to love. We're not really taught the 1784 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,600 Speaker 2: language of love, we're not really taught how to be 1785 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 2: emotionally supportive and all this shit. So you turn around, 1786 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,320 Speaker 2: you want to do the baar fucking minimum for your kid, right, 1787 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 2: and then you want to do the bear you want 1788 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 2: to do nothing for the woman that you had this 1789 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 2: kid with, but you're dooming your kid to an existence 1790 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 2: where they I mean, I look at these how many 1791 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,280 Speaker 2: adults do we know and like that person has severe 1792 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 2: father issues, Not that they're undeserved because some nigga that 1793 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 2: made them have those issues. They didn't get those issues 1794 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Someone either wasn't around, they were neglectful, 1795 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 2: they were abusive, or they just acted like the kid 1796 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 2: was a fucking burden. Like that energy exists, it's gonna 1797 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 2: come off of you, you know, when you're just doing 1798 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 2: what's ordered by the court, what's mandated, what's obligated. When 1799 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 2: you're fighting every day to do less and less and 1800 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 2: less for this kid, you know, like there's a stereotype 1801 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 2: of like all these wonderful men that you know they 1802 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,640 Speaker 2: don't have the money, but they just can't wait to 1803 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,240 Speaker 2: be in the kids life and take care of them 1804 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 2: and do all this shit. It's like, no, you're not 1805 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 2: giving money, and a lot of y'all talk that good 1806 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 2: lip service, but you're not even fucking taking care of 1807 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 2: your kid either. You're doing nothing, and the ain't getting 1808 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,400 Speaker 2: mad that someone will have to take your ass to 1809 01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 2: court where a lot of people don't want to go, 1810 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 2: you know, because that's the other thing. 1811 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 3: This court, the court system still has a job to do. 1812 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 2: They do look at these things. People act like they 1813 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 2: don't look at shit like they just like you walk 1814 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,000 Speaker 2: in the courtroom with a high power lawyer, like fucking 1815 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 2: Blake Griffin walks into a courtroom with the best money 1816 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 2: he can afford for a lawyer, and the court just goes, 1817 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 2: we don't care. Shut the fuck up ten percent of 1818 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 2: your income, get the fuck out of my courtroom. Bit 1819 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 2: and you better hope you better when I come back, 1820 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,680 Speaker 2: because if you do, I'm gonna raise it. Like that's 1821 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 2: not even how the fuck it works. 1822 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Now. 1823 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 2: You might feel like it's unfair, it should be less, 1824 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 2: but y'all motherfuckers. Really, they can never tell you what 1825 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 2: is enough. They can only tell you what's too much 1826 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 2: right right, which is a huge tail tale sign. It's 1827 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 2: a huge giveaway about what the real purpose is. They 1828 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: never say, you know what, that kid should be getting more. 1829 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 2: I've never seen a man ever say this, like lamar 1830 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 2: Odom just got one hundred million dollar contract. Before that, 1831 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 2: he had a smaller contract. They need to raise his child' support. 1832 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,600 Speaker 2: His kids should be getting better now, the should go 1833 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,920 Speaker 2: to a better school, better clothes, better everything, just like 1834 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 2: if he was living with his daddy. I've never heard 1835 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,839 Speaker 2: a man make that argument ever. 1836 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Right, And the thing that kills me because you know, 1837 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I've had friends niggas back like women who won't say, 1838 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: want to go to court. 1839 01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:56,519 Speaker 2: I have. 1840 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,560 Speaker 1: I've known I got friends who literally but like I'm not, 1841 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with the court. 1842 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 2: He won't do it. 1843 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Fuck it, And that's what they hope you do so 1844 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,599 Speaker 1: that there's no obligation on their fucking part. And then 1845 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people would turn around and even some 1846 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,000 Speaker 1: people would try to talk women out of getting child support. 1847 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: Child support is your goddamn legal right. It's your right. 1848 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 2: The law says it's your right. 1849 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: This is your child. You'll obligated to take care of 1850 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 1: your child financially. 1851 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,640 Speaker 2: And you knew it going in, right, like you're not, 1852 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:32,519 Speaker 2: like you never blindsided, like child support? What's this? I 1853 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,639 Speaker 2: didn't know this could be a possibility of not wearing 1854 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 2: a condiment impregnating somebody. 1855 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,080 Speaker 1: Right, It's like a lot of men want no consequences 1856 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 1: to sex and it does not work like that. A 1857 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 1: lot of literally, a lot of men just want no consequences. 1858 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 2: But a record, it doesn't have to be consequences. They 1859 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,760 Speaker 2: don't want to take care of any responsibilities. A child 1860 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be a consequence unless you view it 1861 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,680 Speaker 2: as something negative, correct, you know, like it's a consequence 1862 01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 2: to you. Like the only quote unquote con quins we 1863 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 2: want to have is women paying consequences by forcing them 1864 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 2: to have children and shit, not like like want an 1865 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 2: abortion to be illegal and blaming women if they get 1866 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 2: an abortion and calling it birth there using for birth 1867 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 2: control and shit, we want to control their bodies. But 1868 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 2: then let let a woman say, okay, well I'm gonna 1869 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 2: bring this baby to term and raise it the way 1870 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 2: that you claim you want women to do. Then all 1871 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,360 Speaker 2: of a sudden that the fucking ships footses to like, 1872 01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 2: why are you trying to trap me? Bitch? What you doing? 1873 01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 2: All right? Let me go to the next session. Problem. 1874 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know how we got in that tangent. 1875 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,639 Speaker 2: Oh because dl Hughley wife had to make. 1876 01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 3: Him pay for uh. 1877 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1878 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 1: And in women and women, and that goes back to 1879 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,559 Speaker 1: the traditional thing where quote unquote women make better men, 1880 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, And what does that say about men when 1881 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 1: another woman has to make you be a better man. 1882 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because men get to say, like I wasn't emotionally mature, 1883 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't become. 1884 01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, women don't ever get to say that, even if that's. 1885 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,560 Speaker 2: True, like I wasn't emotionally mature until you know, my 1886 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 2: wife made me be emotionally mature, and now I recognize 1887 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 2: that I should probably take care of my fucking kid 1888 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 2: and the the problems I cause for this woman. 1889 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if she is emotionally not emotionally mature. 1890 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: When it comes to women, women as a whole get 1891 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 1: criticized a lot more. You let a woman walk away 1892 01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,960 Speaker 1: from her child, you let a woman not be a 1893 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 1: good mother. 1894 01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 2: Women be having custody of their kid, but if they 1895 01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,719 Speaker 2: live a public life. I will watch men who claim 1896 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 2: to not be on that bullshit be like Amber Rolls 1897 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 2: always doing blankety blank, Why Sierra gotta do such and such? 1898 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 2: We don't never say that about future. It's a double standard, 1899 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,200 Speaker 2: it's definitely, And motherfuckers are happy to feed into that 1900 01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 2: double standard because they benefit from it, correct, you know, 1901 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 2: but they sound like fools to me. Madison Shockley, the 1902 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 2: third accused Insecure star East Array, of assault on a 1903 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 2: Monday face book post. The actor took the social media 1904 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,760 Speaker 2: to say Ray, who arguably has one of the most 1905 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,800 Speaker 2: popular comedies on HBO, dug a chair into his foot 1906 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,839 Speaker 2: and smiled during a dinner event. In twenty twelve, Shockley 1907 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 2: played raised love interest Fred on the web series The 1908 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,880 Speaker 2: Misadventures of Awkward Black Girl. Shackly apparently tried to confront 1909 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 2: Ray for years. She never responded. I'm no longer afraid 1910 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,040 Speaker 2: to dress it publicly for numerous reasons, but among them 1911 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 2: is the fact that my private attempts to reach out 1912 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,519 Speaker 2: to her over the past five or six years. 1913 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 3: I failed to result and even a return phone call, 1914 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 3: he wrote. Cordon Shockley asked to meet Ray at the 1915 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 3: screening of The ABG. 1916 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 2: In the New York. She told him to meet at 1917 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,800 Speaker 2: a restaurant with Pharrell Williams, who apparently sponsored season two 1918 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,519 Speaker 2: of the show. When he showed up with his friends, 1919 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 2: he was invited to sit down and have some drinks. 1920 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,320 Speaker 2: That was Kylamari going around too. 1921 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 3: It was great, he remembered. 1922 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,479 Speaker 2: That's when Ray, thirty three showed up with two of 1923 01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 2: her friends. There wasn't room for her or her guests 1924 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,640 Speaker 2: at the table. I look up for my drink and 1925 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,640 Speaker 2: played to Klamar to see her walking in staring at 1926 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,280 Speaker 2: me dagger's eyes. I rose up out my seat to 1927 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 2: say all over to her. She walked over. Then I 1928 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 2: realized there were no more seas at the table for 1929 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:03,760 Speaker 2: her and her guests to sit down. 1930 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 3: At the act of thirty one, said. 1931 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 2: Said his goodbyes and got ready to leave, but not 1932 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,960 Speaker 2: before Ray allegedly made her displeasure clear. As heasa approached, 1933 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 2: I offered him my seat. She took the chair, placed 1934 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 2: the foot of it on the top of my foot. 1935 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,280 Speaker 2: Then he used her hands to put pressure from the 1936 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 2: top of the chair down on my foot. Shockly alleged 1937 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 2: while she smiled at my face, she was driving the 1938 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 2: foot of the chair into my foot. I got the message. 1939 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 2: She was very upset that I was there, he countinue. 1940 01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 2: I held it well under my breath out of not 1941 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 2: wanting to be embarrassed from everyone. And it happened so fast. 1942 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 2: I was shocked that he had that she had just 1943 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,000 Speaker 2: done that. I lift out the restaurant into a cab. 1944 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,599 Speaker 2: My two friends who got in the cab immediately started cursing, 1945 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,639 Speaker 2: taking my shoe and sock off I had a bruise 1946 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 2: and a scratch that broke the screen on my foot, 1947 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 2: top of my foot. Aside from an ELK with Black Girl, 1948 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 2: Shockly is best known for the Neighbors Almost thirty two 1949 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,839 Speaker 2: friendship side. The next day air Shockley did not immediately 1950 01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,240 Speaker 2: respond to News Looks quest for comment. Raised rep said 1951 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:03,120 Speaker 2: she had no comment. All right, I have no idea 1952 01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 2: if that's true or how you prove that. Either we'll see, 1953 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,559 Speaker 2: we will only the future will tell. 1954 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 3: That's what everything we'll see. And then he said some 1955 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:18,040 Speaker 3: of it have an evidence on Twitter, and he's. 1956 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 2: Gonna come like, you got until X time. And I 1957 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,080 Speaker 2: think it was seven o'clock to night, so maybe he 1958 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,720 Speaker 2: already did it. I don't know, uh, but he said 1959 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 2: something like you got it till tonight to apologize or 1960 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put out more evidence or something like that, 1961 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,800 Speaker 2: like I don't know. And some people were saying he 1962 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 2: had a Facebook video and he sounded weird in it, 1963 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,960 Speaker 2: and shit, I didn't look at the video, so I 1964 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,599 Speaker 2: don't know about that, and I don't want to assume 1965 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,760 Speaker 2: to be honest, but yeah, he does appear to be 1966 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:54,640 Speaker 2: kind of upset man, and his Twitter is the Underscore 1967 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Bay Underscore expert. There are many more stories I'll get 1968 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,000 Speaker 2: around to once I land in the past tomorrow morning, 1969 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,760 Speaker 2: but in the interest of time, considering on boarding a 1970 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 2: flight that leave in a few minutes, I'll skip for 1971 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 2: the detailing the time she physically assaulted me. 1972 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:11,519 Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe he's. 1973 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 2: About to try to put her own blast and we'll see, 1974 01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,040 Speaker 2: I mean, coinciding with the you know, season three premiere 1975 01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:23,600 Speaker 2: of Insecure. Mm hmm, all right, let's see, uh what 1976 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,600 Speaker 2: time looking like? All right, we got some time, we 1977 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 2: got some time. Let's do some uh uh fucking with 1978 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:34,680 Speaker 2: black people. All right, bring up my music. 1979 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:48,720 Speaker 6: And we just fucking with those black people with this, 1980 01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,000 Speaker 6: with those blacks, We're just fucking. 1981 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 2: With fucking with black people. That's right, guys, It's time 1982 01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 2: to play the game we all hate to play. It's 1983 01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,240 Speaker 2: fucking with black people. The game. We go all around 1984 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:00,880 Speaker 2: the globe, we find different points that I mean, five 1985 01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,760 Speaker 2: different articles that make us feel fucked with the wist 1986 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 2: side points from zero to one hundred and intervals with 1987 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 2: twenty five today's contestants. Everybody, all right, see who's fucking 1988 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:14,040 Speaker 2: with us? A store manager told a copper woman hit 1989 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:19,040 Speaker 2: items in her shirt, she's pregnant, and he's fired. A 1990 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 2: Charlotte area store is apologized to just oh Charlotte, that's us. Oh, 1991 01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,559 Speaker 2: I didn't know that was here for suggesting a woman 1992 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 2: with stuffing items under her shirt. She's actually thirty four 1993 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 2: weeks pregnant with twins. According to Fox w JZY, Cheryl 1994 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,679 Speaker 2: Bates says she was at the registered nearly finished shopping 1995 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 2: for school supplies and Friday and Friday at the Staples 1996 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 2: in Pondville, Oh, we know where that is, when the 1997 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 2: police officer asked her was under her blouse. Initially I 1998 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,360 Speaker 2: thought he was joking some my response twins. To avoid 1999 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,120 Speaker 2: him asking again, I actually lifted my shirt just a 2000 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,760 Speaker 2: little bit, just exposed my belly so he could see 2001 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:55,200 Speaker 2: that I'm not a regular pregnant person. Yeah, that's interesting that. 2002 01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean, once she was being disarming and whatnot, but 2003 01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,960 Speaker 2: a fucking police officer asking you what's under your shirt? 2004 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:07,000 Speaker 3: It's already some kind of wild shit. 2005 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,640 Speaker 2: Stables sent to Charlotte Observer statements that to say the 2006 01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,680 Speaker 2: manager of Vada Incident has been fired. The customer was 2007 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 2: also given a full refund and an apology. Friday at 2008 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 2: our provill location in Stables manager mistakenly assumed the customer 2009 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 2: of shoplift and the reporter his assential to police officer 2010 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:22,720 Speaker 2: visiting the. 2011 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,840 Speaker 1: Short ain't no mistakenly, you got fucking cameras all over 2012 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 1: those places. 2013 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,080 Speaker 3: The police not to mention. 2014 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,759 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's okay the shoplift, but there's literally 2015 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:37,080 Speaker 2: it's built into the overhead that mon take like you 2016 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 2: don't have to it. Ain't take this risk. The police 2017 01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 2: officer questioned the customer and quickly confirmed that there was 2018 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 2: no death. Stables has been since conducted a full investigation 2019 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 2: to the matter determined that the manager in question did 2020 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,000 Speaker 2: not follow correct protocol, also failed their head to our 2021 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 2: existing policy on how to interact with our customers. Yeah, 2022 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,639 Speaker 2: the fact that you even sent a police officer over 2023 01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:01,679 Speaker 2: first problem. If you're gonna accuse somebody, you would, Hey, ma'am, 2024 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,640 Speaker 2: we saw you take something, but you didn't see her, 2025 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 2: so you just decided. 2026 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:08,720 Speaker 3: Also, why the fuck am I paying for anything at 2027 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:09,880 Speaker 3: the register if I stole something? 2028 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 2: Anyway? Whatever? The idea that basically had to prove that 2029 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 2: she was pregnant has sparked hanging on social media, with 2030 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,559 Speaker 2: many not the pregnant women have to face that challenge 2031 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,960 Speaker 2: for years. Similar cases have been documenting across the country, 2032 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,200 Speaker 2: and they going to name a couple employees suspected another 2033 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,200 Speaker 2: woman to shot was in a basketball where she was, 2034 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 2: in fact nine much pregnant. How humiliating to this mother 2035 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,240 Speaker 2: posted Jill turned her on Facebook. She shouldn't have lifted 2036 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 2: her shirt to prove anything. They would have just they 2037 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 2: would have just had to arrest me, said a cool watch, Right, 2038 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:38,920 Speaker 2: So what happened? 2039 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: If you'd be like I didn't still shudn't fuck No, 2040 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm not turning up my shirt, then I'm confrontation, right. 2041 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2042 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,720 Speaker 1: So, and I wonder how many of these people were 2043 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: white women? Y'all y'all tell white women, y'all cused them 2044 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 1: a stealing shit, she. 2045 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,800 Speaker 3: Was a black woman, that's the right, I mean zero 2046 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:56,600 Speaker 3: one hundred. 2047 01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:56,679 Speaker 2: Oh. 2048 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,519 Speaker 1: A hundred, yeah, it's one hundred from me, you know, 2049 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 1: instill those fucking pencils and papers. 2050 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 2: The singer Sam Smith says he doesn't like Michael Jackson. 2051 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,160 Speaker 2: And you might know Sam Smith as a white man. 2052 01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,800 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. No, I mean y'all knew that, but he 2053 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:21,680 Speaker 2: is a white man. 2054 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 3: Sales. 2055 01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 2: Smith said he doesn't like Michael Jackson, King of Pop 2056 01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,880 Speaker 2: doesn't do much for the English star Uh sounding Spend 2057 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 2: enough time drinking with me and you're likely to hear 2058 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 2: my spill about how Michael Jackson k the King of 2059 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,559 Speaker 2: Pop's grace all time. Shown't hear me wax nostalgic about Thriller. 2060 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a lot. 2061 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:44,679 Speaker 2: Of editorializingill well sales. Smith nearly negatest that entire argument. 2062 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 3: Uh a complex as complex points out the English pop 2063 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:48,879 Speaker 3: stars recently. 2064 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,559 Speaker 2: Uh was recently living the life abroad a giant yacht 2065 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:59,280 Speaker 2: where his pow Adam Lambert snapped him listening to Human Nature. 2066 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:03,040 Speaker 2: Smith was, I don't like Michael Jackson, but this is 2067 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:15,519 Speaker 2: a good song. So that obviously got him some ire 2068 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 2: because he is a white artist who makes, you know, 2069 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,599 Speaker 2: what people would consider to be kind of a living 2070 01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:26,720 Speaker 2: in black music, because he sings kind of soul ish, 2071 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:34,920 Speaker 2: soul adjacent. So the legendary Stephanie Mills figured that she 2072 01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 2: had the time to respond. You know, you know Stephanie Mills, 2073 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:42,519 Speaker 2: the army singer. 2074 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:46,879 Speaker 3: So she had this to say. 2075 01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:57,400 Speaker 2: At Sam Smith, world, don't come from Michael Jackson when 2076 01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,840 Speaker 2: you wish you have sold as as many records as 2077 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 2: you wish you were the king, and you wish you 2078 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,519 Speaker 2: were the king of pop like he was. I'm so 2079 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:10,479 Speaker 2: tired of you people studying our music and studying our 2080 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,200 Speaker 2: artists and claiming that you don't like our music. Go 2081 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,920 Speaker 2: sit your one hit wonder ass down and learn how 2082 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,639 Speaker 2: to finish a tour. When you can sell as many 2083 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:25,320 Speaker 2: records as the king of pop, Michael Jackson, then maybe 2084 01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,439 Speaker 2: you can say something. So I say to you, mister Smith, 2085 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 2: has several seats, and come for me if you want cute. 2086 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,640 Speaker 2: He did not, in fact come for her, as he 2087 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:43,439 Speaker 2: did not want to or want any smoke. He checked 2088 01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 2: into a hotel and said, no smoking room, please snow free. 2089 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:49,600 Speaker 3: He went to a restaurant and said, it is a 2090 01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 3: smoke free section. 2091 01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 2: I would like to sit here. 2092 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,040 Speaker 3: So, yeah, it got a little too spicy for the pepper. 2093 01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:58,120 Speaker 7: Yeah it did. 2094 01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, he did call the song good, but he 2095 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,320 Speaker 3: did say he didn't like Michael Jackson. 2096 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 2: Here is the thing, Okay, zill tehun the can Mmm? 2097 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,080 Speaker 1: I get this one of seventy five? 2098 01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,840 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, you get seventy five? Okay. 2099 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,800 Speaker 2: I hate to be controversial, guys, I really do, but 2100 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,880 Speaker 2: I've thought about this one long. Ahod zero, I can 2101 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,040 Speaker 2: see that I do not feel fuck with it all 2102 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:35,720 Speaker 2: about this. Now that being said, I recognize the rule 2103 01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:37,840 Speaker 2: is the rule fair? 2104 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 3: No, the rule is not fair. 2105 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 2: But the rule is the motherfucking rule, which is, if 2106 01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,720 Speaker 2: you are a white person make a money in a 2107 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:52,519 Speaker 2: lane that is art that black people dominate, you have 2108 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,639 Speaker 2: to like everybody. Is that fair? It is not really 2109 01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 2: fair because it makes sense that you would not like 2110 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,519 Speaker 2: some people because I don't like some people. We all 2111 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,720 Speaker 2: have our unpopular opinions or the popular just wave of 2112 01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,479 Speaker 2: you can't I don't. Everybody can say Azilia Banks is 2113 01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,760 Speaker 2: problematic except white people that make money in black music. 2114 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,800 Speaker 2: They can't say that shit. They gotta take it. I 2115 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,559 Speaker 2: don't care what she says about you. It's for us 2116 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,800 Speaker 2: to be like Osaire, you're crazy. 2117 01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,360 Speaker 1: Right, because we had to deal with so much shit 2118 01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,479 Speaker 1: the other way around. We're like, nope, you come over here, 2119 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:26,760 Speaker 1: fuck you right. 2120 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 2: I suggested Sam Smith just beat it, Okay, come on, 2121 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,800 Speaker 2: let's get the hell out of here and move on. 2122 01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:35,479 Speaker 4: Now. 2123 01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:40,519 Speaker 2: The other problem is that the reason I don't feel 2124 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,800 Speaker 2: fucked with man, I don't give a fuck about sales. 2125 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:48,680 Speaker 2: Smith opinion on shit. You know, it's like the It's 2126 01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,560 Speaker 2: like the black people who waited to the end of 2127 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,360 Speaker 2: Black Clansmen and then looked around at the white people 2128 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,800 Speaker 2: in the audience, and then it was like checking to 2129 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 2: see how they responded. Like I saw white people crying 2130 01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,719 Speaker 2: and I got mad. I saw a white woman crying 2131 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 2: and a black man sleeping in our you know, man 2132 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 2: got no people. Me. I paid a certain amount of 2133 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,760 Speaker 2: money for what I care and what I think about 2134 01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,600 Speaker 2: the movie. I didn't pay to see what none of 2135 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,599 Speaker 2: these other motherfuckers in the stead to think. Good luck, peace, 2136 01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,439 Speaker 2: This is my experience. Sixteen dollars I paid for myself 2137 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,680 Speaker 2: and none of the white people. Right. So sometimes like 2138 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:23,519 Speaker 2: we get caught. 2139 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:27,639 Speaker 3: Up on white people's like validation or opinion or something. 2140 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,400 Speaker 2: But I don't care. Sam Jackson, Sam Sam Smith. Sam 2141 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,960 Speaker 2: Smith could also say he's the greatest artist of all 2142 01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:38,760 Speaker 2: time and they will have no bearing on anything. Now, 2143 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 2: if Sam was spicy, which I do not think he is, 2144 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:49,559 Speaker 2: But if he was spicy, he might could say, why 2145 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,680 Speaker 2: y'all canceled R Kelly, but you let Michael Jackson live. 2146 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 1: Now. 2147 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he should, okay, because I know a 2148 01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 2: lot of people are in denial about what's up with Mike, 2149 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,840 Speaker 2: like it's just different for him, somehow, somehow, he the 2150 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,200 Speaker 2: only one that's been accused of multiple people. That is 2151 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 2: not a me too movement. Nobody believes it. It's all 2152 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 2: fake news because you know, most people, morality only extends 2153 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,519 Speaker 2: to how much they like a person. Correct, they like 2154 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,200 Speaker 2: somebody a lot. They can't do no wrong. It's not 2155 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 2: even weird. You sleep in the bed with fucking kids, 2156 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:24,080 Speaker 2: it's not even weird. They found like pornography that had 2157 01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 2: children in in your house when they move shit out 2158 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:30,040 Speaker 2: that None of that's weird. It's all just it's not weird. 2159 01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,800 Speaker 2: You may have been giving kids Jesus juice aka wine 2160 01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,599 Speaker 2: and their children is not. He didn't have a childhood, 2161 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 2: so you know it's cool. You know, it's different for him. 2162 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:44,519 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if he wanted to say something back, 2163 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,719 Speaker 2: he could say that. I don't suggest he said, because 2164 01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,760 Speaker 2: I don't suggest to Sames Smith even say he don't 2165 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:54,400 Speaker 2: like CHINGI I don't suggest Sam Smith say he don't 2166 01:49:54,520 --> 01:50:00,799 Speaker 2: like fucking ice JJ fish y'all remember him. I suggest 2167 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:05,040 Speaker 2: he don't say nothing about nobody if they black and 2168 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,160 Speaker 2: you don't like, gonna keep that shit to yourself if 2169 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,520 Speaker 2: you like, because it's only gonna be bad things. Everybody's 2170 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,360 Speaker 2: gonna be like, who the fuck you think you are? 2171 01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,240 Speaker 2: You have not been black for a second in your life? 2172 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,640 Speaker 2: How fucking dare you? 2173 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:19,360 Speaker 3: Yep? 2174 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then people are gonna be like, you came 2175 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,920 Speaker 1: over here, you're topping the charts, and if you was 2176 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,320 Speaker 1: a nigga, a lot of the praise you get you 2177 01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:28,280 Speaker 1: might not receive it. 2178 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,880 Speaker 3: I know you didn't just come for a little be like, 2179 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 3: that's what black people do. 2180 01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,599 Speaker 2: It's not fair. It's the rules. That's the reason Bruno 2181 01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,920 Speaker 2: Mars gets come for every year once a year, and 2182 01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,599 Speaker 2: that motherfucker has handled it with grace and a plum. 2183 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:47,200 Speaker 2: That motherfucker is like, Nope, you're not getting me. I 2184 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 2: love everybody Bruno like, I know, I ain't black, and 2185 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't want no problems. 2186 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,439 Speaker 1: I tell people I got it from a coach and 2187 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:56,120 Speaker 1: it with mine. 2188 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,519 Speaker 2: Don't matter what you say. I see people taking shots 2189 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,120 Speaker 2: at Adele or Dale, ain't never did nothing to nobody 2190 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:05,360 Speaker 2: right and continues to be non problematic. And Beyonce is 2191 01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:09,160 Speaker 2: number one fan and motherfucker's still come for her to 2192 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 2: every day is somebody being like, I don't like this 2193 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 2: about her and what she said this live and she's 2194 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:18,479 Speaker 2: saying like she stays the fuck out. She was like, Nope, nope, 2195 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,840 Speaker 2: call David Adele. You can't really saying live you sound terrible. 2196 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,040 Speaker 2: That performance every time you go lives sound like trash. 2197 01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,519 Speaker 2: You know what the day say I do. Beyonce is 2198 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,519 Speaker 2: the best, and she should win all the fucking awards. 2199 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,960 Speaker 2: I shouldn't win shit. I ain't shit, y'all. Y'all right, 2200 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm just a white woman and that means I ain't shit, 2201 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:39,200 Speaker 2: and everybody goes I guess I was really hoping you 2202 01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:40,720 Speaker 2: would be mad, and. 2203 01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 1: They're like, nope, I'm about to take me and my 2204 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,800 Speaker 1: baby over here in England somewhere. She'll then until we 2205 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:49,599 Speaker 1: until I get ready to come out with my next 2206 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:50,639 Speaker 1: album in five years. 2207 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 3: I'm about to snapchat me and this Beyonce on the 2208 01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:54,559 Speaker 3: Run two tour, come out in the. 2209 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 2: Front, in the front row, knowing all the words. That's 2210 01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,599 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna be doing, what big ass be legion 2211 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 2: shirt on talking about she the greatest ever and standing 2212 01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 2: the fuck out whenever she even acknowledged my existence and 2213 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,559 Speaker 2: looking like I'm looking in the face of a fucking 2214 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:16,200 Speaker 2: goddess because I don't want no problems and Sam need 2215 01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,000 Speaker 2: to learn that's the rules. Now. 2216 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,439 Speaker 3: He he shot way too high to the fucking sun 2217 01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,519 Speaker 3: with the Michael Jackson one. I mean, come on, niggas, 2218 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,400 Speaker 3: No niggas, don't let that slide. 2219 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,200 Speaker 2: Motherbuckers can think he's a pedophile. They won't let that's lie. 2220 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,360 Speaker 2: That's that's ridiculous. Like if he would that was that's too. 2221 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,639 Speaker 2: No white person can get away with that. I don't 2222 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,560 Speaker 2: even think there's a white person on the earth that 2223 01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,080 Speaker 2: makes a living in anything black. They can say they 2224 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,599 Speaker 2: don't like Michael Jackson, you know what I mean. 2225 01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:46,599 Speaker 3: I don't even know who you can come at before Michael. 2226 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just can't. That's as that was impossible. That 2227 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,880 Speaker 2: like the degree of difficulty on there is like some 2228 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:57,680 Speaker 2: Olympic figure skating triple access shit like what and I 2229 01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,280 Speaker 2: and the other part of this that I have to 2230 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,559 Speaker 2: mention this might be number four. At this point, did 2231 01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,600 Speaker 2: he know he was being filmed recorded. He might not have, 2232 01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,839 Speaker 2: cause they snapped it, but it seemed like he snapped 2233 01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,000 Speaker 2: it without really letting him know that I'm about to 2234 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,000 Speaker 2: put this in the Internet because sales Smith might probably 2235 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,720 Speaker 2: not fuck with Michael Jackson, and that's okay. It is 2236 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,080 Speaker 2: if he probably in the in his own house, be like, 2237 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with this shit, Like I don't like 2238 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,240 Speaker 2: this dude whatever. In my style of music, we all 2239 01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,240 Speaker 2: have shit. I don't like the Lego movie Surprise. I'm 2240 01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:34,960 Speaker 2: about the Lego closet now, y'all know. But I also 2241 01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 2: don't really run around talking about it too much, right, 2242 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,120 Speaker 2: you know, like I was. Everybody loved it for me, 2243 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,360 Speaker 2: everybody it's me. I'm not even mad. 2244 01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got excited when I seen the people 2245 01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 1: for the second one. 2246 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 2: Everybody loves it except me. But if I get you know, 2247 01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 2: snapchatted saying some well, I wasn't even feeling with this, 2248 01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,560 Speaker 2: and then people get mad at me. I'm mad at you, 2249 01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:56,120 Speaker 2: now why. 2250 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,920 Speaker 3: You put that out? That was for me to tell, 2251 01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,559 Speaker 3: not you. So anyway, zero for me. I don't feel 2252 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:03,200 Speaker 3: fuck with it all. 2253 01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:06,519 Speaker 2: But I do understand the rule. I don't want anybody 2254 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 2: to talk about Roger. You don't understand you can't say 2255 01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:09,720 Speaker 2: that as a white person. I know. 2256 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 3: So for the first time ever, I'm resending my. 2257 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,960 Speaker 2: Cookout invitation from Sam Smith, he could not come to 2258 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:22,280 Speaker 2: the cookout. Okay, y'all happy? Yes, he's the one person 2259 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:29,840 Speaker 2: so far him. I'm a rossa Jason Whitlock Trump anyway, uh, 2260 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,000 Speaker 2: both of min's. Saint John is helping Papa John's rebrand. 2261 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:34,320 Speaker 1: And who is this? 2262 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,080 Speaker 2: She is a black woman? 2263 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 3: Okay, marketing diva, Bosama. 2264 01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,320 Speaker 2: I hope that I'm saying this right, Bosoma. Saint John 2265 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,360 Speaker 2: had a daunte task in her new role as chief 2266 01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,240 Speaker 2: marketing officer for in Devil Global Marketing, helping Papa John navigate. 2267 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,040 Speaker 3: Its current public relations nightmare. 2268 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,600 Speaker 2: According to CNN, the beliefate piece of chain higher the 2269 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,480 Speaker 2: marketing agency after the board pressured founder Trailban and former 2270 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,320 Speaker 2: CEO John Schnadder to step down. Snatter, who appeared and 2271 01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,720 Speaker 2: just about every Papa John's TV commercial was the face 2272 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 2: of the brand. Yet he's been a controversial figure. During 2273 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 2: an earnings call, the conservative leaning businessman and Trump voter 2274 01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,800 Speaker 2: criticized NFL players kneeling in protests against injustice during the 2275 01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,800 Speaker 2: national anthem. This should have been nipped in aboud a 2276 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,840 Speaker 2: year and a half ago. Like many sponsors, we're in 2277 01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,520 Speaker 2: touch with the NFL. Once the issues, was all, we're optimistic. 2278 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,880 Speaker 2: The NFL's best years are head anyway, we all know 2279 01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:31,680 Speaker 2: the decline. But she's also known because she helped. She 2280 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,960 Speaker 2: was rose through the marketing corporate rates at Pepsi and Apple, 2281 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,640 Speaker 2: began working at Uber's Chief brand Officer of June twelfth, 2282 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:42,080 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. She was hired by ousted Uber CEO Travis 2283 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,280 Speaker 2: Kalinnik at the Times Tow Black Enterprise, she was anxious 2284 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 2: to help rebrand the company's image because remember they had 2285 01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:50,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff with rape and racism. People like 2286 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,160 Speaker 2: me jump right into the deep in the head first. 2287 01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm already going the practical and logistical thing. Will things 2288 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:56,480 Speaker 2: will catch up. 2289 01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if she had anything to do with this, 2290 01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:03,040 Speaker 1: but now with Uber, they have a thing where you 2291 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,560 Speaker 1: can actually send the family and a friend and they 2292 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,400 Speaker 1: can actually follow your ride to make sure you got 2293 01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:09,160 Speaker 1: to your destination. 2294 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Uber was riddle with scandals of 2295 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,320 Speaker 2: controversy in twenty seventeen even after she got the job, 2296 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,360 Speaker 2: and they made little progress and diversified in their workforce, 2297 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,320 Speaker 2: and then she left after a year, So I don't know. 2298 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, typical hire a black person to try to 2299 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 2: fix an unfixable problem. Right, And once again I reiterate 2300 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,640 Speaker 2: because I've said it a few times on the show. 2301 01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 2: I think it bears always relevant. Niggas have there's no 2302 01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:40,120 Speaker 2: compromise they're willing to make where they would start patroniaa 2303 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:46,040 Speaker 2: Papa John's again, So even hiring this black woman, I mean, 2304 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,680 Speaker 2: I don't think this will do anything for the black 2305 01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 2: people who have written them off because of John Snatter. 2306 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 2: They fired John Snatter and people still like fuck them. 2307 01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,280 Speaker 2: They're hiring this black woman to clean up their image. 2308 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,880 Speaker 2: I still have a feeling niggas are gonna be like 2309 01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:01,680 Speaker 2: fuck them anyway. 2310 01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:02,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 2311 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad she's making some money off of it, but 2312 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,200 Speaker 2: I hope this doesn't become the bos Amost Saint John 2313 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,320 Speaker 2: always be failing at these jobs because she don't know 2314 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 2: how to rebrand anybody, and they hire her but she 2315 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,160 Speaker 2: can't do shit. I hope it doesn't become that, right. 2316 01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,880 Speaker 1: And who knows what ideas that she's shooting it? They 2317 01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,600 Speaker 1: fucking got turning down and like, we're not doing that shit. 2318 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:24,080 Speaker 1: Nobody knows right, you know, you want do you want 2319 01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,960 Speaker 1: to blame them when she don't change but she don't 2320 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 1: change a lot of times because there's a lot of 2321 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,400 Speaker 1: ideas that she have. They don't be willing to do right. 2322 01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,120 Speaker 2: She had to release some of the uh, some of 2323 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 2: the tapes of Josh Snader other stuff, you know, stuff 2324 01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:39,120 Speaker 2: he said. 2325 01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:42,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I wonder how she infiltrated to get 2326 01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 3: the jobs, probably triggering and thinking she was white. 2327 01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 2: They got it. Put my mouth to God's ears. 2328 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,920 Speaker 7: I really hate those nigga rats and anyone else really 2329 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,320 Speaker 7: that doesn't have pure white Urian blood running through their 2330 01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,960 Speaker 7: veins talking about true white America, God bless white America. 2331 01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,640 Speaker 3: That's probably what she had to do to get the job. 2332 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,880 Speaker 2: She showed up just like, oh God, who are you so? 2333 01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 3: I got intoed black pizza man just just infiltrated the 2334 01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:11,680 Speaker 3: whole operation. 2335 01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 2: Anyway you can. 2336 01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:20,480 Speaker 1: Mm, I'm not that buck with actually jewry dope. 2337 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't care zero. Yeah, I give it zero. I 2338 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 2: mean I felt how I felt. Nothing's changed. 2339 01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Still not getting my dollar bills. 2340 01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna order some Papa Johns tonight, but you 2341 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,200 Speaker 2: can't have nothing because you boycott. But I'm off of 2342 01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:38,000 Speaker 2: that bad wagon. Yeah, support them now that they got 2343 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:41,680 Speaker 2: a black woman. M mm hmmm, okay, I mean you 2344 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,880 Speaker 2: cook something here, you can eat whatever you want to eat. 2345 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just enjoy my Papa John's. You go right 2346 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 2: away colic sauce that you love. I might get some 2347 01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:55,840 Speaker 2: extra garlic sauce. We was driving out here the other 2348 01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:57,880 Speaker 2: day and somebody was getting Papa jobs to live in 2349 01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,200 Speaker 2: the house like a goddamn coon. You can't be black 2350 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:02,840 Speaker 2: and getting o Papa John's delivery boy. 2351 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 1: Fun you with an exercise of racism. 2352 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,160 Speaker 3: Right, Like, I don't know what it's like. You might 2353 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,120 Speaker 3: as well just admit you in the klan. 2354 01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't gas you show it was a Papa John's boy. 2355 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,040 Speaker 3: What if you a black Papa Johns driver. It's like, 2356 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 3: that's like black clans man. 2357 01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:23,680 Speaker 5: Oh all right? 2358 01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,960 Speaker 2: Last one record show road rage, gun threats and stand 2359 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,320 Speaker 2: your ground shooters passed the clear Water man who shot 2360 01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,480 Speaker 2: and killed a father of three outside of convenience store 2361 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 2: in Parkingsview last month, setting off of stanyar ground debate 2362 01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,560 Speaker 2: that swept Florida. In the nation has a history of 2363 01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:38,120 Speaker 2: road rage. 2364 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:39,760 Speaker 3: Now, this is one of those things. 2365 01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:45,200 Speaker 2: I didn't cover it when it first happened because one 2366 01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,800 Speaker 2: didn't have all the details too. I fucking hate that 2367 01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,440 Speaker 2: standyard ground law right. 2368 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 1: Never should know, man, When I go back and you learn. 2369 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 2: The history of that, that is some bullshit. 2370 01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:00,360 Speaker 1: And people complained when it got past years ago that 2371 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,280 Speaker 1: you basically like giving people the right to kill people. 2372 02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,680 Speaker 3: It's honestly just yeah, it's murder, right. 2373 02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,560 Speaker 2: It's just a way a parameter of murder where we 2374 02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,480 Speaker 2: will protect your right to murder. 2375 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,760 Speaker 3: Since twenty twelve, according to records. 2376 02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Of interviews, forty seven year old Michaeh michael O Dreka 2377 02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:22,720 Speaker 2: has been the accused aggressor in four incidents. Investigators documented 2378 02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:26,440 Speaker 2: three cases and police reports. The other was not shared 2379 02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,960 Speaker 2: with authorities at the time, but involved the same handicapped 2380 02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,720 Speaker 2: reserve parking spot outside circle a food store near clear Water, 2381 02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:37,640 Speaker 2: and with another shooting threat. So not only has he 2382 02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:40,320 Speaker 2: tried to has he been involved in these kinds of 2383 02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,720 Speaker 2: altercations before, He's even had a specific altercation over the 2384 02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:48,160 Speaker 2: same parking space, and none of this was shared at 2385 02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:53,920 Speaker 2: the time. Two involved allegations of Draga showing a gun 2386 02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:57,320 Speaker 2: and another trooper accused him of aggressive driving in sided 2387 02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,840 Speaker 2: him after a crash when Draca breaked hard in front 2388 02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,400 Speaker 2: of a woman driving with two children. Drekka has not 2389 02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,120 Speaker 2: spoken publicly in weeks since he shot the and killed 2390 02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:08,120 Speaker 2: twenty eight year old Marquise mclaughdin. No one has spoken 2391 02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:11,160 Speaker 2: much about him, either, not family, not neighbors, not lawyers. 2392 02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Several alleged victims in previous incidents either declined to comment 2393 02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,800 Speaker 2: or could not be reached. Dracon remains, in many ways 2394 02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,160 Speaker 2: an enigma to the public. He has not been arrested. 2395 02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Why because there no fuckers are foods. You put your 2396 02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,560 Speaker 1: face out THEMN motherfuckers show up at your house and. 2397 02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Bush no now. In the latest stadium ground controversy, Dragon 2398 02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,440 Speaker 2: is a key surviving player, yet people don't even know 2399 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,400 Speaker 2: what he looks like. He's just a blurry figure on 2400 02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:38,440 Speaker 2: the ground in granny surveillance video, arms straight ahead, straight, 2401 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,720 Speaker 2: head tilted as he pulls the trigger. He has no 2402 02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,760 Speaker 2: criminal record in Florida and no discernible social media presence. 2403 02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,880 Speaker 2: The police reports described a man quick to anger, but 2404 02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,120 Speaker 2: who always denied he threatened anyone with a gun, so 2405 02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,120 Speaker 2: he was a liar no credit. Former prosecutor said the 2406 02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:56,040 Speaker 2: earlier cases could possibly be used if Draka has brought 2407 02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,320 Speaker 2: the trialless evidence that he pulled out his weapon because 2408 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,200 Speaker 2: he was frustrated and not afraid. Twice investigators admonish Drakka, 2409 02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,560 Speaker 2: telling him he was fortunate the alleged victim of his 2410 02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,040 Speaker 2: road rage did not want to press charges. If they had, 2411 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,560 Speaker 2: an officer said authorities could have revoked his concealed carry 2412 02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:13,320 Speaker 2: pro mint. The two eighteen year olds called authorities when 2413 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:16,480 Speaker 2: the black truck was still behind them. See I guess 2414 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,240 Speaker 2: this the previous incidents. Okay once said he had stopped 2415 02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,880 Speaker 2: at a yellow light about noon on January ten, twenty twelve, 2416 02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,040 Speaker 2: and the man and the pickup began to hunk and 2417 02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:27,040 Speaker 2: yell out the window. He motioned for the teens to 2418 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:29,320 Speaker 2: walk back to the truck. According to the eighteen year old, 2419 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 2: then he hung a black candgun out the window, taking 2420 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:36,120 Speaker 2: out the magazine, putting it on his dashboard alongside another magazine. 2421 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,360 Speaker 2: The eighteen year old said he drove away with his 2422 02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:41,080 Speaker 2: friend or US nineteen around Sunset Point Road, but the 2423 02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:42,480 Speaker 2: truck followed and then passed. 2424 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,000 Speaker 3: The man slammed on his brakes. 2425 02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 2: The team would called turned into the parking lot of 2426 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:49,120 Speaker 2: Arvey's at Curlew Road. The eighteen year old said he 2427 02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,720 Speaker 2: kept driving but soon the black truck of Toyota have returned. 2428 02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,880 Speaker 2: The man eventually broke off in a different direction, the 2429 02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:57,520 Speaker 2: team said, but had taken down his licensed plate number 2430 02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 2: WTS traced it to Draka and went to a house 2431 02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:02,440 Speaker 2: at Clearwater. According to the police port, he pulled a 2432 02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,240 Speaker 2: to a driveway. To the driveway as they were leaving 2433 02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:08,240 Speaker 2: a business car. Draga told the deputy the other car 2434 02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:10,760 Speaker 2: had cut him off. He said he hunked and yell, 2435 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,480 Speaker 2: but did not follow. The other car did not show 2436 02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:15,400 Speaker 2: a gun. He did have one, however, a forty caliber 2437 02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:18,320 Speaker 2: glock in his center console. He also had a concealed permit. 2438 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:23,320 Speaker 2: The deputy was skeptical, according to the report, asking Drekka 2439 02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:25,160 Speaker 2: how the teens knew he had a gun to debuty 2440 02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,160 Speaker 2: row I for Michael if he had displayed his weapon, 2441 02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:28,520 Speaker 2: that he was lucky to teens did not wish the 2442 02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:33,720 Speaker 2: press charges. Largo police officer was driving later that year 2443 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:35,600 Speaker 2: when several people in another car pulled up to him 2444 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,600 Speaker 2: and Holland Avenue to make a reporter man the black 2445 02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Toyota pick up had just threatened them with a gun, 2446 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:42,880 Speaker 2: they said, pointed it out. They drove off with the 2447 02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:46,200 Speaker 2: officer turned around to follow the truck. December thirteen, twenty twelve, 2448 02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:47,480 Speaker 2: the driver of the toyota to pull the to a 2449 02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,600 Speaker 2: church park aline before the officer could make a traffic stop. 2450 02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,040 Speaker 2: By the time the officer arrived, Dreka already held his 2451 02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 2: driver's license canceled permit in hand. He said he had 2452 02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:58,240 Speaker 2: not pointed a gun at the car, that the other 2453 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:02,040 Speaker 2: people were lying for the officer. I asked any questions. 2454 02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Because he did that shit, because he knew they were 2455 02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna say that. 2456 02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,800 Speaker 2: You didn't even ask me a question. I didn't I 2457 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,080 Speaker 2: do have a gun. I did not point it at anyone, 2458 02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:19,400 Speaker 2: sir h. I didn't say nothing about you having a gun. 2459 02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I I just know I didn't call anyone a yeah 2460 02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:32,160 Speaker 2: he had truck. He had touched a forty caliber glock 2461 02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:34,920 Speaker 2: between his seat and the center console. He said he 2462 02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:37,040 Speaker 2: always kept it there while driving. According to the report, 2463 02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:38,600 Speaker 2: the officer asked him to step out of the truck 2464 02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,440 Speaker 2: and find a loose bullet near the gas pedal and 2465 02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:44,720 Speaker 2: a loaded magazine below the seat. Dragon wore a holster 2466 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,720 Speaker 2: inside his shorts behind his right hip. I could still 2467 02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:49,400 Speaker 2: see the impression of the gun in his skin, so 2468 02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,160 Speaker 2: he was lying he had the gun on him the 2469 02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:54,000 Speaker 2: whole time he was driving, pulled into that church parking lot, 2470 02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:56,160 Speaker 2: stuffed it in the seat, and it was like what gun. 2471 02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,240 Speaker 3: Dragon told the officer. He haunked at the people in 2472 02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:00,720 Speaker 3: the car, but he never s showed him his gun. 2473 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,960 Speaker 2: He did, He said he did not want He did 2474 02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:06,800 Speaker 2: not think they were driving fast enough in the school zone, 2475 02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:10,320 Speaker 2: and the speed limit was fifteen miles per hour. The 2476 02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:12,240 Speaker 2: people in the other car, Dragon said, threw up their 2477 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:13,760 Speaker 2: middle finger as soon as he haunked, and one of 2478 02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,480 Speaker 2: them had shadowed him. One he was looking for a conversation. Yes, 2479 02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:20,880 Speaker 2: two who says you didn't drive fast enough in the 2480 02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:24,720 Speaker 2: school zone fifteen miles an hour? Nigga, we all crawling, 2481 02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:29,720 Speaker 2: ain't we? No. The officer didn't believe. Dragon said it 2482 02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:31,840 Speaker 2: was stranging someone to shout about a gun if they 2483 02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:34,400 Speaker 2: hadn't already seen it. The officer wrote that there was 2484 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,560 Speaker 2: no doubt Dragon pulled his gun, but the victims drove off, 2485 02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:37,880 Speaker 2: so the officer did not arrest him. 2486 02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:41,440 Speaker 3: I advised him his care. 2487 02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Permit did not give him the right to exhibit a 2488 02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,840 Speaker 2: gun because he was flipped off for hunking at someone. 2489 02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,040 Speaker 2: I told him a report would be taking it that 2490 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,120 Speaker 2: if the victim was located, can face jail and the 2491 02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:53,640 Speaker 2: loss his Cancil current care permit. Another one, a Florida 2492 02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Highway Patrol officer responded to a car crash on all 2493 02:05:56,480 --> 02:06:01,240 Speaker 2: US nineteen Pennsylvania Avenue, last less than a year ago 2494 02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,560 Speaker 2: or less than a year later. A woman in a 2495 02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,720 Speaker 2: ford edge had crashed in the back of his pickup. 2496 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:07,760 Speaker 2: She had two children, eight of four and seven in 2497 02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,800 Speaker 2: our vehicle. No one was hurt. The woman said she 2498 02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,280 Speaker 2: was turning that pulled into the center lane waiting for 2499 02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:16,880 Speaker 2: the truck to pass, but Dreca said he thought she 2500 02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:20,400 Speaker 2: had almost hit him. He began to slam on his brakes, 2501 02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:24,080 Speaker 2: decreasing his speed quickly in aggressive manner. The woman smashed 2502 02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:24,720 Speaker 2: it to the back. 2503 02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 3: Of his truck. 2504 02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Shortly before three pm. Draca admitted that he calls that 2505 02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,000 Speaker 2: he admitted he was break checking the woman a trooper rod. 2506 02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:34,240 Speaker 2: He was cited for stopping and making a sudden decreasing 2507 02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:36,880 Speaker 2: speed without signaling. The woman's car had to be told 2508 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:38,480 Speaker 2: from the scene, according to the report, and the troop 2509 02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:42,960 Speaker 2: brascimated the damage of eight thousand dollars. You know, I'm 2510 02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:46,680 Speaker 2: starting to realize something talking about this. This is like 2511 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:49,120 Speaker 2: that time that that dude broke that mirror on my car, 2512 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:54,160 Speaker 2: and I remember I said, it scared me how calm 2513 02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,320 Speaker 2: I was, because I didn't understand why the fuck I 2514 02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,840 Speaker 2: was being so calm, because I would have been in 2515 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,120 Speaker 2: my rights to be like, what the fuck are y'all doing? 2516 02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:04,280 Speaker 3: You hit my car? You threw something at somebody and 2517 02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:05,760 Speaker 3: I and I couldn't put. 2518 02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:08,240 Speaker 2: It together in my head. I was like, like, was 2519 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,200 Speaker 2: I that scared? Like I didn't feel scared, and I 2520 02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:13,520 Speaker 2: didn't feel nervous. I didn't even have fight or flight. 2521 02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:18,320 Speaker 2: It just felt calm, like just I don't know. It 2522 02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:22,280 Speaker 2: just felt like I don't know almost then, like to 2523 02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,080 Speaker 2: a certain extent, but I've been but I'm thinking about 2524 02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:28,920 Speaker 2: it now. This is why same here. I just don't 2525 02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,680 Speaker 2: want to get killed over some somebody's bullshit, yep. And 2526 02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:36,040 Speaker 2: I need to be in my full rational, thoughtful mind 2527 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:40,920 Speaker 2: trying to go with the punches because these fucking insecure 2528 02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:47,000 Speaker 2: ass gun toting uh assholes are just out here with 2529 02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:51,000 Speaker 2: weapons and we have like protected all of their rights 2530 02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,080 Speaker 2: with the stead of the ground bullshit where they can 2531 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,320 Speaker 2: instigate something and then turn around and kill you and 2532 02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:58,640 Speaker 2: be protected by the law. 2533 02:07:59,480 --> 02:07:59,959 Speaker 1: Correct. 2534 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:02,920 Speaker 3: You know, it reminds me of Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. 2535 02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:06,760 Speaker 2: We've been watching that documentary, and so much of what 2536 02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Zimmerman did was about instigating something with people. 2537 02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:13,920 Speaker 3: You know, he followed Trayvon Martin in the middle of 2538 02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:14,280 Speaker 3: the night. 2539 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 2: I think he was told not to after he was 2540 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,040 Speaker 2: told not to, knowing he had a weapon on him, 2541 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:24,520 Speaker 2: followed this dude. Trayvon's on the phone talking to somebody, like, Yo, 2542 02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:27,680 Speaker 2: this dude is fucking following me. Something's up with this guy? 2543 02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like he in his mind as a 2544 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:31,720 Speaker 2: fourteen year o kid, He's like, am I gonna have 2545 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,560 Speaker 2: to fight somebody to get home tonight? Like is this 2546 02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:36,080 Speaker 2: person gonna kill me for no reason? 2547 02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:36,960 Speaker 1: You know? 2548 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:38,520 Speaker 2: And he turns around like what the fuck you want? 2549 02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:39,160 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 2550 02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:43,000 Speaker 2: And this dude had studied the law, he had taken 2551 02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:46,480 Speaker 2: a criminal justice class. He had basically integrated in the 2552 02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,920 Speaker 2: whiteness because he was one of those white pass and 2553 02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,640 Speaker 2: Hispanic people, right, you know, cut his hair off and 2554 02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,400 Speaker 2: start you know, going by George instead of whore or 2555 02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:58,120 Speaker 2: some shit, and which his cousin kind of talked about 2556 02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:03,440 Speaker 2: on the show. But yeah, it's like there's so many 2557 02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:07,320 Speaker 2: laws to make sure that white people are protected when 2558 02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:11,960 Speaker 2: they do stuff like this, and they are aware of 2559 02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:15,080 Speaker 2: these laws, they're aware of this privilege, and so yeah, 2560 02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:17,320 Speaker 2: they could kill us in the court of law and 2561 02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:18,840 Speaker 2: be like, well, that's just what happen to happen. 2562 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, niggers and brown people's lives didn't don't 2563 02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,000 Speaker 1: mean anything. And I am that makes me think of 2564 02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,800 Speaker 1: let me see put up real quick this podcast I've 2565 02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:37,800 Speaker 1: been listening to called Screen on radio and radio and 2566 02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,760 Speaker 1: the spell like a movie scene, right, and it has 2567 02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:44,000 Speaker 1: like all these different parts to it. And one and 2568 02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:47,040 Speaker 1: one series that cover is called Seeing White, and it 2569 02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:51,320 Speaker 1: goes through the history of race and where the race 2570 02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: come from, and the foundation of the race, like the 2571 02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:58,480 Speaker 1: race itself, how we separate, how white people separated us, 2572 02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:03,560 Speaker 1: and how angle set became something that's commonly used here 2573 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,040 Speaker 1: in America and nowhere else. 2574 02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:06,880 Speaker 2: And how. 2575 02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:10,600 Speaker 1: To be a citizen means to be a white citizen 2576 02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:13,360 Speaker 1: only and you know, anybody else you're not considered a 2577 02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:18,880 Speaker 1: citizen except for they was talking about a dude who 2578 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:23,960 Speaker 1: married Pocahontas. I forgot that dude's name and their children 2579 02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and their ancestry was an exception to this rule. So 2580 02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:30,240 Speaker 1: then that's when it was like, well, if you're you know, 2581 02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:33,960 Speaker 1: a drop a brown, you're black, you know, you one 2582 02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:39,120 Speaker 1: eighteenth Cherokee. You know, we'll we'll say, will you actually 2583 02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:41,920 Speaker 1: are considered white? And it's one of those things where 2584 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:43,880 Speaker 1: when you talk about Georgezemer is that thing where you 2585 02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:47,080 Speaker 1: can be white passing, you know, you just have the 2586 02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:50,360 Speaker 1: appearance of whiteness, that you've been accepted into whiteness sometimes 2587 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:51,800 Speaker 1: regardless if you're white or not. 2588 02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:52,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2589 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:57,560 Speaker 2: The thing for me is, you know, I was trying 2590 02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:02,280 Speaker 2: to put that together and it's like I don't It's 2591 02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:06,920 Speaker 2: like I don't have the freedom to have the I 2592 02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,000 Speaker 2: don't feel like I have the freedom to have the 2593 02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,280 Speaker 2: emotional response that other people could have. No, you know, 2594 02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:17,920 Speaker 2: because it's like that would be on my that would 2595 02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:20,360 Speaker 2: be on my desertilicet as well. 2596 02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:21,480 Speaker 3: This nigga got our control. 2597 02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 2: We had to kill him, you know. Yeah, he got 2598 02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:26,920 Speaker 2: too upset, and I mean, well, shit, you gotta kill 2599 02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:28,960 Speaker 2: his motherfuckers sometimes, Yeah. 2600 02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:32,680 Speaker 1: Because the foundation about our country has been whites only 2601 02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and everybody else. White people just have the right to 2602 02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:38,640 Speaker 1: kill going back to slavery and shit like that, and 2603 02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:40,200 Speaker 1: it's also one of those things. But yeah, I've been 2604 02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:42,040 Speaker 1: in several RECs, and every time i've been in the wreck, 2605 02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I've never got angry. In fact, I've been in the 2606 02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:49,400 Speaker 1: wreck and I have gotten scared right just and they 2607 02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:52,000 Speaker 1: were not my fault, and I got the other. 2608 02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:55,160 Speaker 2: Person might be irrational and blame you even though it's 2609 02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:55,640 Speaker 2: their fault. 2610 02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Right, get at the car angry, you get like And 2611 02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:59,800 Speaker 1: I've never had an incident where people have gotten at 2612 02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:02,280 Speaker 1: the car angry or anything like that. But I remember 2613 02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:04,040 Speaker 1: one time I got in the record it was actually 2614 02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:06,400 Speaker 1: their fault and they actually had family membs. I was 2615 02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,720 Speaker 1: by myself. I said in my car. I didn't interact 2616 02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:10,480 Speaker 1: with them. I didn't say a fucking word to them. 2617 02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I sat in my car the whole time, and they 2618 02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:16,080 Speaker 1: stayed over They stayed over there, but they had family 2619 02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:18,480 Speaker 1: and friends around them, which was cool. I was like, Hey, 2620 02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm cool with with with this, us being separate, you know, 2621 02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:26,480 Speaker 1: because I don't want no interaction with this. And one 2622 02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:30,560 Speaker 1: record I had got in uh when they was asking 2623 02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,920 Speaker 1: us because I was by myself, So when they was 2624 02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:35,720 Speaker 1: asking us what hospital to go to? One person said 2625 02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:39,120 Speaker 1: one hospital, and I was like, I said, I wanted 2626 02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:41,200 Speaker 1: to go to the hospital on the other side of 2627 02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:45,440 Speaker 1: town purposefully, like completely different hospitals. And the biggest weegond 2628 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,520 Speaker 1: wi was because I knew it would take you a 2629 02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:49,080 Speaker 1: while to get there, and I didn't want to be 2630 02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,040 Speaker 1: there and have their family and friends show up and 2631 02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:53,280 Speaker 1: turn around and have to deal with that interaction because 2632 02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,520 Speaker 1: we probably would have been in the same vicinity, you know, 2633 02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:59,200 Speaker 1: like those That's the shit that I think of, and 2634 02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people like My thing is, I try 2635 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:05,200 Speaker 1: to prevent REX. I will slow down, I will stop 2636 02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:09,200 Speaker 1: whatever it takes not to have an interaction with you, 2637 02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,640 Speaker 1: because I know that I'm black and I can't change that. 2638 02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:16,280 Speaker 1: And when you get in rexs with people, you never 2639 02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:19,800 Speaker 1: know how irrational somebody's gonna respond. You never know how 2640 02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,560 Speaker 1: illogical somebody's gonna respond. You never know if regardless of 2641 02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:25,840 Speaker 1: whose fault it is, a lot of people come out 2642 02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:28,520 Speaker 1: automatically blaming you. You just don't know. So my thing 2643 02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:30,320 Speaker 1: is I don't want to have an interaction with you 2644 02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:30,720 Speaker 1: at all. 2645 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my I think my thing is more like, uh, 2646 02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm always prepared for the idea that I'm either gonna 2647 02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:44,280 Speaker 2: have to defend myself or possibly somebody around me. 2648 02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:45,280 Speaker 4: You know. 2649 02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,880 Speaker 2: I think about that shit a lot, you know, even 2650 02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:50,000 Speaker 2: when I don't want to. It's like, at this point, 2651 02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:53,960 Speaker 2: I think it's subconscious. Like if if I go to 2652 02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:55,520 Speaker 2: the wire, like I go to the wire at the 2653 02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:58,440 Speaker 2: same time most days, and I'll see, like, there's this woman, 2654 02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:00,600 Speaker 2: she's like a muscle woman. She's there or her family 2655 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:02,960 Speaker 2: every time I say, you know, make sure I speak 2656 02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:04,960 Speaker 2: to her and whatnot. But I'm also always thinking, like 2657 02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:08,360 Speaker 2: if somebody tries it, I don't want to be that 2658 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,240 Speaker 2: person that sat there and let them try it correct, 2659 02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:14,440 Speaker 2: you know. But that's you know, an obligation I put 2660 02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:16,040 Speaker 2: upon myself, not somebody else. 2661 02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:16,760 Speaker 6: You know. 2662 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,160 Speaker 2: I just don't know how to her people like, and 2663 02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should have to. But it's weird 2664 02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:25,160 Speaker 2: that I don't know if I'm alone in that or not. 2665 02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:27,160 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how many other people look 2666 02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,920 Speaker 2: around them and like, Okay, that's a black woman over there. 2667 02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be like these videos where they record 2668 02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,760 Speaker 2: some dude calling some black woman a nigger and then 2669 02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:37,920 Speaker 2: they sit in the background or they come break it 2670 02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,760 Speaker 2: up by telling the black women to leave no, you know. 2671 02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:44,600 Speaker 2: And there's been a few times where I we were 2672 02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:46,720 Speaker 2: at the store the other day and that Muslim woman 2673 02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:49,160 Speaker 2: that was working there said, and it was the people 2674 02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:52,600 Speaker 2: right before us, and they dad walked out before, right 2675 02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,160 Speaker 2: before we got over there. It's a white couple, and 2676 02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:57,640 Speaker 2: this Muslim woman was there and she I know, oh 2677 02:14:57,840 --> 02:14:59,360 Speaker 2: well she was I don't know if she was musclem 2678 02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:02,360 Speaker 2: but she was dress sitting there like jobbed, and she 2679 02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:05,040 Speaker 2: was a cashier and she was a black woman, and 2680 02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:09,400 Speaker 2: she was like talking to herself. And when we came up, 2681 02:15:09,480 --> 02:15:11,680 Speaker 2: she was like, I know, I look crazy. I'm sorry. 2682 02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:14,240 Speaker 2: You know, y'all caught me talking to myself. And she 2683 02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:17,160 Speaker 2: was kind of like doing that laugh where you're kind 2684 02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:20,240 Speaker 2: of trying to decompress correct like she was laughing, but 2685 02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:22,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't really nothing funny. She was just kind of 2686 02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:26,080 Speaker 2: laughing like okay, like talking to myself, like let me 2687 02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:29,280 Speaker 2: get my shit back together. And I'm like, okay, is 2688 02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:32,600 Speaker 2: everything okay? And she was like, you know, and she 2689 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:35,440 Speaker 2: didn't even really talk directly to us. She was still 2690 02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:37,400 Speaker 2: kind of in that mold, trying to calm herself down. 2691 02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:40,240 Speaker 2: She was like, you know, it's just some people. They 2692 02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:44,400 Speaker 2: don't have respect, they don't have decency. If I put him, 2693 02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:46,640 Speaker 2: if you put your money down and you put it 2694 02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:49,960 Speaker 2: in my hand, then and I give your change, Do 2695 02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:52,600 Speaker 2: you take your change back from my hand? It's that simple. 2696 02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:55,320 Speaker 2: You don't request for me to put it down on 2697 02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,160 Speaker 2: the table or whatever, like it's a fucking hostage negotiation. 2698 02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Like you just take, you know, like you would do 2699 02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,520 Speaker 2: for any other person. And so you know, I'm piecing 2700 02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:05,480 Speaker 2: it together my hand. I'm like, oh, those white people 2701 02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:09,240 Speaker 2: before us did some disrespectful like I don't want to 2702 02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:13,400 Speaker 2: touch your Muslim hands. Put this money down, blah blah blah. 2703 02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,600 Speaker 2: And then she you know, you know, as happens, like 2704 02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:21,040 Speaker 2: we kind of commiserated as we from the South were black. 2705 02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:23,720 Speaker 2: You know, we could gallows humor of like these white 2706 02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:26,440 Speaker 2: people as crazy girl, you know, you know, and then 2707 02:16:26,480 --> 02:16:29,360 Speaker 2: she kind of like was like, well, how y'all doing. 2708 02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:31,560 Speaker 2: We kind of like made a couple jokes with each other, 2709 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:34,840 Speaker 2: and and then she was like, you know, I was 2710 02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:38,400 Speaker 2: upset before y'all got over here, but I'm glad y'all 2711 02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:41,160 Speaker 2: came over here. And you know, it's like God knows that, 2712 02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, to put good people so I remember that 2713 02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:46,800 Speaker 2: most people are good, and even though you have people 2714 02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:49,039 Speaker 2: like that, and da da dah, I'm like, I had 2715 02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:50,160 Speaker 2: a hard to tell her. I was like, but if 2716 02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:52,560 Speaker 2: if God was real, he would have let me show 2717 02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:56,200 Speaker 2: up ten seconds earlier. So I told him find the best. 2718 02:16:56,320 --> 02:16:58,880 Speaker 2: We didn't show up ten seconds. Tell the motherfuckers go, 2719 02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:01,520 Speaker 2: they go to hell. The same thing happened one time. 2720 02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:04,560 Speaker 2: We was in Harris Teeter and you was looking for 2721 02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:07,120 Speaker 2: some food in a frozen food section and I wasn't 2722 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,640 Speaker 2: over there. I went to go get something else with 2723 02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:11,680 Speaker 2: some white man. Came back here and and told her 2724 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:15,160 Speaker 2: like to close the door to the frozen food because 2725 02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:17,800 Speaker 2: it was gonna let all the something out. And I 2726 02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:20,480 Speaker 2: was like, like he was saying the bill, yeah, like 2727 02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:22,920 Speaker 2: are you mister Harris sed the motherfuckers like who are you? 2728 02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:26,680 Speaker 1: And I know one thing when your black ass showed up, 2729 02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:28,040 Speaker 1: that attitude changed, didn't it. 2730 02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't see him like I got over there 2731 02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:32,280 Speaker 2: and I asked you, was everything okay? And I don't 2732 02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:34,560 Speaker 2: know if he saw me in left or or what 2733 02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:36,760 Speaker 2: because it took you a while to tell me what happened. 2734 02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:38,320 Speaker 2: And he told me, like, because I could tell you 2735 02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:43,080 Speaker 2: a visibly kind of bothered by this shit, and once 2736 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:47,199 Speaker 2: again about ten seconds like let me let me see 2737 02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:50,320 Speaker 2: that you know what I'm saying, because you kind of 2738 02:17:50,680 --> 02:17:53,440 Speaker 2: do have to take on I know, patriarch, get some bullshit, 2739 02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:56,520 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Look, I'm never gonna be one hundred percent. 2740 02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm still from the South and still was raised kind 2741 02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:02,680 Speaker 2: of chival wrists. Still open the door for caring and shit, 2742 02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:06,120 Speaker 2: you know y'all do yeah, y'all do what y'all do? 2743 02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:07,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's not I'm not 2744 02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, I still carry the heavy things from the 2745 02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:13,040 Speaker 2: car and shit, you know, everybody can do what the 2746 02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:14,600 Speaker 2: fuck they want. You know, when people open the door, 2747 02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:16,640 Speaker 2: don't they somebody opens the door, you do whatever you want. 2748 02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:19,960 Speaker 2: But I still have that kind of feeling about the 2749 02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:23,880 Speaker 2: people around me, especially black people around me, especially black 2750 02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:27,439 Speaker 2: women and children around me, Black LGBTQ people around. 2751 02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Me, where I'm like a some shit pop off. We 2752 02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:31,680 Speaker 3: have to be in this together. 2753 02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,360 Speaker 2: It can't be me sitting there as a as a 2754 02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:38,280 Speaker 2: fucking bystander and letting something happen and then turn around 2755 02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:40,000 Speaker 2: to be like, but I'm a good person. That's not 2756 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:42,520 Speaker 2: a good a good person wouldn't do that, you know. 2757 02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:47,279 Speaker 2: And if I expected of other people, then I expected 2758 02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:52,760 Speaker 2: of myself. But I also feel like it's something beyond 2759 02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:56,120 Speaker 2: fight or flight, because it's correct. Like I said, it's calm. 2760 02:18:56,320 --> 02:19:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't feel anger. I feel like, Okay, how am 2761 02:19:00,560 --> 02:19:01,160 Speaker 2: I gonna handle this? 2762 02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:02,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 2763 02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Like I don't want to. I don't want to have 2764 02:19:04,640 --> 02:19:06,720 Speaker 2: to have violence. I don't want to. I mean because 2765 02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:08,400 Speaker 2: you might just turn around and shoot me in my 2766 02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,440 Speaker 2: fucking head. And I'm just gonna be a video on 2767 02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:15,280 Speaker 2: the internet of black men gets upset about his car 2768 02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:18,959 Speaker 2: getting damaged and then uh, the white man felt threatened 2769 02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:21,000 Speaker 2: and shot him in his head and drove off and 2770 02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:25,240 Speaker 2: have many months later, no justice. All the black people 2771 02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:27,800 Speaker 2: stricken from the jury. This man ain't going to jail, 2772 02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:30,959 Speaker 2: my family missing me, all this shit. I think about 2773 02:19:30,959 --> 02:19:32,199 Speaker 2: this ship all the time. 2774 02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:36,720 Speaker 1: And it's the same and I think for me, Uh, 2775 02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:41,520 Speaker 1: traveling and I was traveling with a Muslim woman and 2776 02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:43,640 Speaker 1: we were together. She had a hey job, and that 2777 02:19:43,959 --> 02:19:46,600 Speaker 1: crossed my mind because I was like, hey, can I 2778 02:19:46,640 --> 02:19:49,800 Speaker 1: said to myself, if we have any problems, Oh yeah, 2779 02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:51,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, what you not gonna do. 2780 02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:55,720 Speaker 1: We're probably both gonna go down. But I know that 2781 02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:59,880 Speaker 1: if you bothered her, you might as well be modeling me. 2782 02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:03,119 Speaker 2: Right, But that's kind of the anyway, that's the space 2783 02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:07,760 Speaker 2: I kind of occupied times, just in general. Right, So 2784 02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:10,920 Speaker 2: when I hear about people like this, that means there's 2785 02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:14,240 Speaker 2: people that occupy the space the other way. Correct. Oh, 2786 02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:16,440 Speaker 2: I see a black person'mna fuck with him. I see 2787 02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:18,640 Speaker 2: a mother person'na fuck with him. I'm gonna go out 2788 02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:20,680 Speaker 2: of my way to be hateful. It takes no effort 2789 02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:22,320 Speaker 2: to be calm, but I'm gonna go out of my way. 2790 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:25,280 Speaker 2: And there are laws to protect them, and they know it. 2791 02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:28,520 Speaker 2: And that's what this jew resents to me. He represents 2792 02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:32,000 Speaker 2: somebody that knows that standiel ground will protect him, and 2793 02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:34,280 Speaker 2: he has spent a lot of time trying to find 2794 02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:38,480 Speaker 2: a reason to shoot somebody. And this is the fourth instead. 2795 02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Uh so here's another one. A couple of months ago, 2796 02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,280 Speaker 2: he was in the same parking spot outside Circle, a 2797 02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:47,439 Speaker 2: food store, arguing over the same handicapped reserve space. According 2798 02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:50,040 Speaker 2: to a man who said dra Could threatened to shoot him. 2799 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,240 Speaker 2: Rick Kelly thirty one to ten Bay Times at Draco 2800 02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:54,720 Speaker 2: Circle to take a truck and confront of him about 2801 02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:56,720 Speaker 2: why he parked at Kelly asked why it mattered. 2802 02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:58,199 Speaker 3: He recalled Draco. 2803 02:20:58,040 --> 02:21:01,520 Speaker 2: Said his mom, who's record show, died in two thousand 2804 02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:03,200 Speaker 2: and seven. His handicap. 2805 02:21:05,720 --> 02:21:10,640 Speaker 3: Understand his mom is dead. She no, she handicap parking 2806 02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:11,080 Speaker 3: in heaven. 2807 02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:17,480 Speaker 2: This motherfucker is like yo, that space is for for 2808 02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:20,800 Speaker 2: for handicap people, for disabled people. I'm gonna shoot you. 2809 02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:26,280 Speaker 2: He just wanted to shoot somebody. The argument escalated. Draka Yell, 2810 02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,959 Speaker 2: Kelly said and used a racial slur. Kelly is black, 2811 02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Draggon is white. Wonder which one? He said? 2812 02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:33,400 Speaker 1: Yigaboo? 2813 02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:37,320 Speaker 2: M hm, what could what could he have said? I 2814 02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:40,959 Speaker 2: wonder you will never know, but my mouth to God's ears. 2815 02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:43,760 Speaker 7: I really hate those nigga rates and anyone else really 2816 02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:46,560 Speaker 7: that doesn't have pure white Arian blood running through their veins. 2817 02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:50,840 Speaker 5: Talking to a true white America. God bless white America. 2818 02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:54,600 Speaker 3: But disf you didn't end there after he threatened to 2819 02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:55,040 Speaker 3: shoot him. 2820 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,600 Speaker 2: Draca called a clear Water sept to tank company Kelly 2821 02:21:57,640 --> 02:21:59,560 Speaker 2: works for the complaint, telling the owner, John Twler, that 2822 02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:01,120 Speaker 2: he didn't like the way Kelly had talked to him 2823 02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:03,640 Speaker 2: and was just lucky. I didn't blow his head off. 2824 02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Tyler gun Under himself told The Times he was shocked. 2825 02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:08,920 Speaker 2: I said, I'm sorry you feel that way that you 2826 02:22:09,080 --> 02:22:11,320 Speaker 2: feel just by to take someone's life over parking space. 2827 02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:13,960 Speaker 2: He said, that was the chilling part about it when 2828 02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:16,600 Speaker 2: I found out who it was. With the mcglockton situation, 2829 02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:22,039 Speaker 2: Dreca's cases before the Panella's Pasco State Attorney's Office, which 2830 02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:24,720 Speaker 2: will decide if he should face chargers for Mcglalckton's death. 2831 02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:29,960 Speaker 2: Panella Sheriff Bob Gultieri declined to arrest him sight in 2832 02:22:29,959 --> 02:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Florida stayar ground law. Now I feel like I've read 2833 02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:36,160 Speaker 2: that he's been charged with manslaughter at this point, idiot okay. 2834 02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,480 Speaker 2: Legal experts say his previous road rage incidents could come 2835 02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:41,280 Speaker 2: into play of his charge, especially if the defense team 2836 02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:44,160 Speaker 2: with the argue staying ground the statue applies to win 2837 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:45,800 Speaker 2: a person has a reasonable fear for his life or 2838 02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:49,039 Speaker 2: serious injury. Shortly before the shooting, surveillance for the shows, 2839 02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:52,240 Speaker 2: mclachton pushed Draka to the ground as Dreka argued with 2840 02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:56,160 Speaker 2: mclochden's girlfriend about the handicapped reserve parking space. Former Panella's 2841 02:22:56,200 --> 02:23:00,640 Speaker 2: prosecutor Bill Lowry said that other dispute over the parking 2842 02:23:01,400 --> 02:23:03,879 Speaker 2: at the store and the two driving competitions involving guns 2843 02:23:03,959 --> 02:23:06,680 Speaker 2: could show Deda uses the gun in an unreasonable fashion. 2844 02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:07,840 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. 2845 02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:11,040 Speaker 2: They probably gonna do what they did with Zimmerman, switch 2846 02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:15,400 Speaker 2: this ship to self defense because they know his previous 2847 02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:18,160 Speaker 2: history is gonna make it seem like he was looking 2848 02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:20,640 Speaker 2: to kill somebody. So they go, well, in this one incident, 2849 02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:23,840 Speaker 2: you can't consider the other incidents anymore because of self defense, 2850 02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:27,240 Speaker 2: not staying your ground. He just had to find himself 2851 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:28,920 Speaker 2: this video, he was pushed down, he was a fear 2852 02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:30,200 Speaker 2: of his life and he had to kill the man. 2853 02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:32,400 Speaker 2: And he's gonna get off same way I said, is 2854 02:23:32,440 --> 02:23:32,879 Speaker 2: gonna get off. 2855 02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:37,360 Speaker 3: I won't be surprised. The law needs to change. Is 2856 02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:38,480 Speaker 3: a shout out to jay Z. 2857 02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:43,440 Speaker 2: Jay Z said it all man, it's the law, Like 2858 02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:45,720 Speaker 2: the law needs to change that like that stay in 2859 02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,800 Speaker 2: your ground encourages this type of shit. And then even 2860 02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:51,120 Speaker 2: with with staying your ground, you still got people that 2861 02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:53,320 Speaker 2: can claim self defense after they get someone to put 2862 02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:59,119 Speaker 2: their hands on them, you know. So it's very frustrating, 2863 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:00,080 Speaker 2: but that's one hundred from. 2864 02:23:59,959 --> 02:24:03,080 Speaker 3: The same and I felt like maybe because we've been 2865 02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:03,360 Speaker 3: through this. 2866 02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:06,039 Speaker 2: So much, I knew that dude had some previous shit. 2867 02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:08,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even even look it up. I said that 2868 02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:12,320 Speaker 2: dude has done that shit before, because there's people that 2869 02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:15,040 Speaker 2: are attracted to those confrontations because they know they will 2870 02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:18,960 Speaker 2: be defended. Man. Correct, You know, by the way, the 2871 02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Trayvon Martin documentary is good. It's actually bringing stuff to 2872 02:24:24,320 --> 02:24:29,000 Speaker 2: light that I either forgot about or I didn't know 2873 02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:31,360 Speaker 2: just the same. 2874 02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:33,320 Speaker 1: And I know we kind of talked about it, but 2875 02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:35,800 Speaker 1: something talking to you brought up a good thing because 2876 02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:38,360 Speaker 1: that initially I was going to watch it. I was like, 2877 02:24:38,680 --> 02:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm good, but I went ahead and watched it am 2878 02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:49,200 Speaker 1: to learn things that I didn't know before. B Like 2879 02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:53,920 Speaker 1: you said, they want, they'll want to cover this twenty 2880 02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:56,600 Speaker 1: five thirty years later. Cover the fucking shit. Now, Why 2881 02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,160 Speaker 1: do we have to wait for our stories to be told? 2882 02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Why I do we have to wait until you have 2883 02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:05,360 Speaker 1: a completely different generation that has to disconnect to it. Yes, 2884 02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:09,560 Speaker 1: it's painful, Yes it's a lot. But at the same time, 2885 02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:12,160 Speaker 1: I've gotten to the point where I don't run anymore 2886 02:25:12,200 --> 02:25:14,560 Speaker 1: because I used to completely run and just almost just 2887 02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:17,879 Speaker 1: check out because it can be emotionally draining, don't get 2888 02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:20,800 Speaker 1: me wrong, But I've gotten to the point where I'm like, 2889 02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:25,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to do this and push 2890 02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:30,720 Speaker 1: through the fear that overtakes you, push through the sadness 2891 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:34,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I watched it and I literally cried 2892 02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:36,959 Speaker 1: watching it, but I was like, I'm going to watch 2893 02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:42,560 Speaker 1: this shit, like I have got to know more about it, 2894 02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:45,160 Speaker 1: because when I was watching it in real time, even 2895 02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:47,320 Speaker 1: in real time, I heard about it and I was 2896 02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:48,920 Speaker 1: aware of it. But it's a lot of shit that 2897 02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:49,680 Speaker 1: I didn't follow. 2898 02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:53,280 Speaker 2: I just did not follow you specifically, avoided a lot 2899 02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:55,400 Speaker 2: of stuff because it was just too much for me. 2900 02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:55,920 Speaker 5: You know. 2901 02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:59,480 Speaker 2: I think I was at home. Maybe I just got 2902 02:25:59,560 --> 02:26:02,200 Speaker 2: laid off, I think, and I was starting to work 2903 02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:05,880 Speaker 2: on this whole you know, this business at the house, 2904 02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, And so I avoided a lot of it. 2905 02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:11,640 Speaker 2: And it was on TV twenty four to seven with Twitter, 2906 02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:14,200 Speaker 2: and everybody turned the channel to watch this, watch that, 2907 02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:18,119 Speaker 2: and I try out, like I never watched Rachel Gentile's 2908 02:26:18,200 --> 02:26:22,400 Speaker 2: deposition stuff for her testimony, except for what I saw 2909 02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:25,600 Speaker 2: on like The Daily Show or something like that. Shout 2910 02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:27,840 Speaker 2: out to The Daily Show, by the way, it's really excellent, 2911 02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:31,240 Speaker 2: and Trevor know is really good and he's really stepped 2912 02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:33,879 Speaker 2: into that job. He does interviews way better than John 2913 02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:38,120 Speaker 2: Stewart ever could do with a list of people that 2914 02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,240 Speaker 2: he finds a way of being affable and relating to 2915 02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:45,440 Speaker 2: him and not coming off like he's patronizing. He's really 2916 02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:50,480 Speaker 2: good at that job. Anyway. I can take it stuff 2917 02:26:50,560 --> 02:26:53,119 Speaker 2: like that from The Daily Show when twib was around, 2918 02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:54,840 Speaker 2: I could take it from twebs sometimes I could kind 2919 02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:58,280 Speaker 2: of get my news through them, but I could not 2920 02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:00,480 Speaker 2: take anything with treyvon Martin. It was just too much. 2921 02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:03,560 Speaker 3: And especially when we covered on the show. 2922 02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:06,200 Speaker 2: I remember when it first happened to being like okay 2923 02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:10,200 Speaker 2: one Glad Sharpton went down there to get attention. Did 2924 02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:13,280 Speaker 2: not know Sharpton's grandma. I don't think I forgot or 2925 02:27:13,320 --> 02:27:16,400 Speaker 2: it was such an insignificant detail to me at the 2926 02:27:16,480 --> 02:27:18,400 Speaker 2: time because I had not put in a full focus. 2927 02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:22,800 Speaker 2: But Sharpton's like mother died the day he landed in Sanford, 2928 02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:26,200 Speaker 2: and he still went out there and marched and brought 2929 02:27:26,200 --> 02:27:30,200 Speaker 2: attention and helped that family. And I can't even imagine, 2930 02:27:30,680 --> 02:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I honestly can't imagine. And that's a dude that a 2931 02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:39,800 Speaker 2: lot of people dismiss and throw throw a shade towards Nah. 2932 02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:42,800 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine y'all, y'all that y'all doing that. 2933 02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:46,240 Speaker 3: I'm not that strong. I just admit that shit. 2934 02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:49,840 Speaker 2: So then the other thing, other little details like the 2935 02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:53,800 Speaker 2: prosecutor being the same prosecutor from the Marissa Alexander case. 2936 02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:56,320 Speaker 2: Marissa Alexander, the black woman who they would not let 2937 02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:58,440 Speaker 2: use the skin in your drown defence. She just got 2938 02:27:58,480 --> 02:28:01,040 Speaker 2: out of jail. Yeah, not, They would not let you 2939 02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:03,440 Speaker 2: to stay in your ground defense against her husband who 2940 02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:06,560 Speaker 2: was literally trying to like to attack her and abuse her. 2941 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:12,440 Speaker 2: And she shot a shot in the ceiling, and that's happened, 2942 02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,200 Speaker 2: you know. Then they're going back through the worship of 2943 02:28:15,440 --> 02:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Zimmerman and how he became a hero to so many 2944 02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:20,640 Speaker 2: white folks, white folks that otherwise would claim to be 2945 02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:22,920 Speaker 2: good people. They could not wait to tell us that 2946 02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Trayvon Martin was a thug. Zimmerman did nothing wrong, open 2947 02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:29,080 Speaker 2: and shut case. They believe everything he said. Nothing is 2948 02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:33,680 Speaker 2: fad nothing. Trayvon's parents said. The second Obama said something, 2949 02:28:33,720 --> 02:28:36,640 Speaker 2: white people flipped. They didn't like Obama anymore, and they 2950 02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:40,000 Speaker 2: didn't like Trayvon Martin, and they didn't. But before that, 2951 02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:42,800 Speaker 2: it was a tragedy and it's just the worst nightmare 2952 02:28:42,920 --> 02:28:47,240 Speaker 2: for anyone. Obama chimed in Fox News flipped, Bill O'Reilly flipped, 2953 02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:50,400 Speaker 2: everybody flipped. While you're trying to politicize this, they said, 2954 02:28:51,520 --> 02:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I love going back through this. I love it. Okay, 2955 02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad for this. If we weren't going back through this, 2956 02:28:57,959 --> 02:29:00,520 Speaker 2: I honestly I don't want to wait un till I'm 2957 02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:02,960 Speaker 2: fucking sixty to go back to this, right Like, I 2958 02:29:03,080 --> 02:29:06,280 Speaker 2: appreciate them. I appreciate them because it's everything we say 2959 02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:09,640 Speaker 2: just puts the case together so perfectly. The thing about 2960 02:29:09,680 --> 02:29:12,959 Speaker 2: George M. Men being a latinis man who then switched 2961 02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:16,160 Speaker 2: over to white, got a white woman, start hanging out 2962 02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:19,000 Speaker 2: with white people, going to the shooting range, basically became 2963 02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:22,520 Speaker 2: a conservative white man in Florida. Just you know the 2964 02:29:22,800 --> 02:29:25,480 Speaker 2: fact that he took these criminal law classes because he 2965 02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:27,360 Speaker 2: wanted to get away with shooting somebody. The fact that 2966 02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:29,400 Speaker 2: he became a he wanted to become a police officer 2967 02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:33,160 Speaker 2: but couldn't because he had a resistant arrest charge on 2968 02:29:33,320 --> 02:29:36,280 Speaker 2: his record, so the police turned him down. So he 2969 02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:39,440 Speaker 2: didn't decide to become top cop of the house of 2970 02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:45,400 Speaker 2: the homeowners Association and the neighborhood watch like you know. 2971 02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:47,440 Speaker 2: And this is not blaming any black person who can't 2972 02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:48,960 Speaker 2: watch this. Don't watch it if you can't take it. 2973 02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:51,640 Speaker 2: This is not I don't guilt people into watching anything. 2974 02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:54,480 Speaker 2: You don't have to explain to me. Actually, Loki, don't 2975 02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:58,200 Speaker 2: want to hear your explanation. It's fine because I accept 2976 02:29:58,240 --> 02:30:00,120 Speaker 2: any reason you have not to watch these things. But 2977 02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm glad that he exists, and I'm glad jay Z's 2978 02:30:02,840 --> 02:30:05,840 Speaker 2: doing it, and I'm glad that it's coming from a 2979 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:08,640 Speaker 2: perspective where they're considerate of black folks. And it's not 2980 02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:11,080 Speaker 2: just how white people felt about the shit at the time. 2981 02:30:11,160 --> 02:30:15,840 Speaker 2: It's important and I'm kind of and one of the 2982 02:30:15,959 --> 02:30:18,840 Speaker 2: things the Trayvon Martin case changed for me at just 2983 02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:21,320 Speaker 2: as a person, because I avoided a lot of it 2984 02:30:21,600 --> 02:30:23,440 Speaker 2: when it was happening, because I just felt like I 2985 02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:26,080 Speaker 2: knew the ending. I knew they were going to go 2986 02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:29,560 Speaker 2: to trial, and I knew there was no chance Zimmer 2987 02:30:29,720 --> 02:30:33,360 Speaker 2: is going to jail zero, and I just didn't want 2988 02:30:33,400 --> 02:30:34,840 Speaker 2: to be hurt by that because I knew it was 2989 02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna happen, yep, But I just happened to be home 2990 02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:39,000 Speaker 2: one day. 2991 02:30:39,879 --> 02:30:40,440 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 2992 02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:45,080 Speaker 2: It was like a Friday maybe. Anyway, when the lawyer 2993 02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:52,440 Speaker 2: for the prosecution made his closing statement to the jury, 2994 02:30:53,959 --> 02:30:55,960 Speaker 2: and it was a white dude, I forget his name, 2995 02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:58,640 Speaker 2: and maybe they'll play it on the doc but it 2996 02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:04,400 Speaker 2: was so and it made the case for Trayvon's humanity 2997 02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:09,200 Speaker 2: in a way that we as black people are already. 2998 02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:14,640 Speaker 3: Know and in a way that at that time have 2999 02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:16,720 Speaker 3: been forgotten in the media narrative. 3000 02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:19,480 Speaker 2: You know, I still blame a lot of the media 3001 02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,920 Speaker 2: forefeeding into it and going back and forth and having 3002 02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:26,040 Speaker 2: like an expert on to argue the merits of this 3003 02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:27,320 Speaker 2: every five minute. 3004 02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:28,680 Speaker 1: That's what a lot of that shit and not trying 3005 02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:30,800 Speaker 1: to funny started. They just kind of kept it there 3006 02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:33,640 Speaker 1: when we got to have both sides and bring on 3007 02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:35,600 Speaker 1: this person. I mean it what was happening prior to that, 3008 02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:38,480 Speaker 1: but this is like this case, right, He really put 3009 02:31:38,520 --> 02:31:39,320 Speaker 1: that to the forefront. 3010 02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:42,560 Speaker 2: It was really callous, is the best way I could 3011 02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:46,119 Speaker 2: describe it. You know, it was it was really callous 3012 02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:49,039 Speaker 2: because they would bring on people that would just overt 3013 02:31:49,160 --> 02:31:53,400 Speaker 2: racist and be like uh, what do you think? And 3014 02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:55,280 Speaker 2: then they bring on somebody that knew the details of 3015 02:31:55,280 --> 02:31:57,760 Speaker 2: the case or whatever and be like, Okay, fight against 3016 02:31:57,760 --> 02:32:01,080 Speaker 2: this guy who's just using stereotypes. You know, it's really bad. 3017 02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:05,200 Speaker 2: But I remember I because I hadn't really cried. The 3018 02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:07,760 Speaker 2: thought about the impact of the case the whole time 3019 02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:10,959 Speaker 2: is going on, but I did cry their no closing arguments. 3020 02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:15,120 Speaker 2: I did, And I remember that day I made up 3021 02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:18,400 Speaker 2: my mind like I'm not going to die having not 3022 02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:22,600 Speaker 2: had an experience of the full range of emotions and 3023 02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:27,960 Speaker 2: allowed myself to fill everything, especially as a black man, 3024 02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:31,040 Speaker 2: because we don't really get to feel shit. It's just 3025 02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:35,640 Speaker 2: anger or joy. And that's kind of the whole gambit, 3026 02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:37,520 Speaker 2: like you can you either get to be mad or 3027 02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:40,360 Speaker 2: you get to be laughing. You know, you don't get 3028 02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:44,000 Speaker 2: to be emotional. You don't get to be soft, you 3029 02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:46,280 Speaker 2: don't get to be fragile, you don't get to be 3030 02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:48,600 Speaker 2: like you just have to be like this box of 3031 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:52,520 Speaker 2: shit all the fucking time. And I remember that day 3032 02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:54,120 Speaker 2: I made up. I was like, this kid lost his 3033 02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:57,480 Speaker 2: life at fucking fourteen, and people still didn't want to 3034 02:32:57,480 --> 02:33:00,440 Speaker 2: see him as a full human being. But in that moment, 3035 02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:03,720 Speaker 2: that Mara, I think it was his name. Mar made 3036 02:33:03,840 --> 02:33:07,680 Speaker 2: the no he said, Mar's defense lord. Okay, So whoever 3037 02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:11,000 Speaker 2: the prosecutor was, he made this case for just the 3038 02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:14,960 Speaker 2: humanity of this black child, which we all were if 3039 02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:19,920 Speaker 2: you're black, And it was just kind of like, yeah, 3040 02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:22,480 Speaker 2: that's I want my life to be that, to be 3041 02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:25,320 Speaker 2: remembered that. Like, I'm not trying to be an angel 3042 02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:28,840 Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to be whatever perfect, but I am. 3043 02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:32,880 Speaker 2: I am trying to be present and conscious in the full, 3044 02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:36,640 Speaker 2: my full self because so many people died and they've 3045 02:33:36,640 --> 02:33:39,680 Speaker 2: been denied that or they denied it to themselves, and 3046 02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to be in my own way when 3047 02:33:41,320 --> 02:33:43,879 Speaker 2: it comes to that shit. But that's you know, that's 3048 02:33:43,879 --> 02:33:48,480 Speaker 2: what Trayvon Martin's case kind of did for me, and 3049 02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:50,400 Speaker 2: I wonder how many other people did for me. The 3050 02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:53,720 Speaker 2: other thing it did was I don't have white friends anymore. 3051 02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Right, that was about the time we lost them too. 3052 02:33:56,600 --> 02:33:58,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't a start, that was the start. It wasn't 3053 02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:00,960 Speaker 2: the final straw, but that was the start because and 3054 02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:03,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of black people can trace back 3055 02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:05,760 Speaker 2: to that, and there's a lot of hurt, a lot 3056 02:34:05,800 --> 02:34:08,560 Speaker 2: of activists was finn Because of this, a lot of 3057 02:34:08,600 --> 02:34:12,160 Speaker 2: people that, you know, I'm still not sure if their 3058 02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:17,360 Speaker 2: activism was about being activated in wanting black rights as 3059 02:34:17,400 --> 02:34:20,440 Speaker 2: much as it was about hurt and pain. Right, there's 3060 02:34:20,440 --> 02:34:22,199 Speaker 2: a lot of black people that thought white people around 3061 02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:25,560 Speaker 2: them was pretty cool until that moment. Now, I didn't 3062 02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:27,720 Speaker 2: really get that luxury because I got white friends later 3063 02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:30,039 Speaker 2: in my life, so I already have kind of built 3064 02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:33,600 Speaker 2: this really strong black foundation of like and take it 3065 02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:36,400 Speaker 2: to leave these white folks. But still, oh, I know 3066 02:34:36,520 --> 02:34:38,039 Speaker 2: a lot of black people that have grown up around 3067 02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,800 Speaker 2: white folks their whole life, and they were hurt to 3068 02:34:39,879 --> 02:34:40,320 Speaker 2: the core. 3069 02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:42,720 Speaker 1: Correct, because this is somebody you grew up with, You 3070 02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:46,759 Speaker 1: went to school, which y'all went to each other's weddings, godparents, 3071 02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:51,680 Speaker 1: you know all these You've built decades of relationships with 3072 02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:52,400 Speaker 1: these people. 3073 02:34:52,879 --> 02:34:55,040 Speaker 2: And the thing is the relationships were real. 3074 02:34:55,160 --> 02:34:58,600 Speaker 1: They don't disappear just because you guys don't see how 3075 02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:01,040 Speaker 1: to eye. But for the first the time ever for 3076 02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:03,800 Speaker 1: some black people, they had to look at the people 3077 02:35:03,920 --> 02:35:08,840 Speaker 1: around them and was like, oh, y'all racist, And if 3078 02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:12,040 Speaker 1: y'all view him like that, I know you don't care 3079 02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:14,760 Speaker 1: about my humanity no matter what you tell me, yeah, 3080 02:35:14,920 --> 02:35:17,520 Speaker 1: and that's still hurt, correct, you know, to this day. 3081 02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:19,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a lot of black people, like 3082 02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that they would admit it, but a 3083 02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of people found their blackness in a way, and 3084 02:35:24,200 --> 02:35:28,080 Speaker 1: they found black spaces like our podcast because of this shit. 3085 02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:31,439 Speaker 2: Same like, they weren't really checking for this shit necessarily 3086 02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:33,600 Speaker 2: before and maybe didn't even see the need of it. 3087 02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:36,160 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's cool, they got some nigga shit, 3088 02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:41,040 Speaker 2: you know, and then they found us because to a 3089 02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:44,800 Speaker 2: certain extent, whiteness had betrayed them and ostracize them, and 3090 02:35:44,879 --> 02:35:48,320 Speaker 2: so they needed something to fill that void. Now, I'm 3091 02:35:48,360 --> 02:35:51,760 Speaker 2: still just a human being too, so you know, any 3092 02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:54,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean that just any black space is 3093 02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:56,320 Speaker 2: gonna ligne with every black person. That's I'm sure black 3094 02:35:56,320 --> 02:35:58,520 Speaker 2: people that don't fuck with us and whatnot, but yes, 3095 02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:00,360 Speaker 2: just in general, there's a lot a lot of black 3096 02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:05,520 Speaker 2: people that found blackness in a way that I think 3097 02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:10,400 Speaker 2: society was trying to tell us was not needed anymore. 3098 02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:12,640 Speaker 2: After the election of Obama. It's like, y'all don't need 3099 02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:15,640 Speaker 2: this black shit. Y'all don't need it. What do you 3100 02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:19,000 Speaker 2: think you need it for? White people have changed. These 3101 02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:20,879 Speaker 2: are not the same, These are not the fucking slave 3102 02:36:20,879 --> 02:36:23,840 Speaker 2: on the white people. Y'all don't need these spaces in 3103 02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:26,520 Speaker 2: each other. In that way, you can be the black 3104 02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:30,480 Speaker 2: friend and have a pretty good existence. White people understand better. 3105 02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:33,160 Speaker 2: And then you got this Trayvon shit and it just 3106 02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:36,520 Speaker 2: reminded everybody like, m M shit is not holding up 3107 02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:38,200 Speaker 2: in the light right right. 3108 02:36:38,320 --> 02:36:41,720 Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, just kind of the way 3109 02:36:41,920 --> 02:36:47,040 Speaker 1: that I grew up. I never and still don't. I 3110 02:36:47,080 --> 02:36:49,720 Speaker 1: don't hate white people, but when you grow up with 3111 02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot of older black people around you that have 3112 02:36:51,800 --> 02:36:55,400 Speaker 1: experienced racism, that have you know, lived doing the Jim 3113 02:36:55,480 --> 02:36:57,800 Speaker 1: Crow lolls and shit, they'll tell you in a heartbeat 3114 02:36:58,680 --> 02:37:01,480 Speaker 1: white folks is a mess and and shit like that, 3115 02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:03,840 Speaker 1: and that stuff does affect you, whether you want it 3116 02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:04,240 Speaker 1: to or not. 3117 02:37:04,760 --> 02:37:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think for a lot of people, this 3118 02:37:08,120 --> 02:37:10,920 Speaker 2: is they wake up call, correct, you know. And some 3119 02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,520 Speaker 2: of them they you know, they fizzled out. Some people 3120 02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:16,560 Speaker 2: kind of return back to whiteness at this point. You know, 3121 02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:20,680 Speaker 2: some people have kind of normalized themselves because you know, 3122 02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:25,400 Speaker 2: from super like you're almost you're almost considered a white person, 3123 02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:28,240 Speaker 2: and then you went so pro black, you lose all 3124 02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:30,280 Speaker 2: your white friends, you go into these black spaces, you 3125 02:37:30,360 --> 02:37:32,480 Speaker 2: don't really know your way around. You start trying to 3126 02:37:32,520 --> 02:37:35,320 Speaker 2: tell people what to do and lead everybody, and then 3127 02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:37,600 Speaker 2: you find out that black people been getting bought without 3128 02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:41,800 Speaker 2: your ass forever. So you can chill. But I've seen 3129 02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:43,840 Speaker 2: that process with a lot of people I have too. 3130 02:37:44,120 --> 02:37:47,119 Speaker 2: You know, social media's really been like eye opening as 3131 02:37:47,160 --> 02:37:48,880 Speaker 2: a way to kind of because you can almost track it, 3132 02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:51,600 Speaker 2: like you're friends with somebody long enough, you can literally 3133 02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:54,240 Speaker 2: watch their progression. You can go back in their pictures 3134 02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:56,000 Speaker 2: and shit and be like, oh, yeah, you used to 3135 02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:58,560 Speaker 2: kind of not be like this, and now look at you, 3136 02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, and then Trump comes in and look at 3137 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:05,120 Speaker 2: your fading back, you know, like like it's just kind 3138 02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:06,360 Speaker 2: of interesting to see it happen. 3139 02:38:06,480 --> 02:38:09,200 Speaker 3: But Trayvon was a touchdone in that way. 3140 02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:12,360 Speaker 2: And this all this staying ground ship with this dude 3141 02:38:12,879 --> 02:38:15,000 Speaker 2: can't help but make me think of Trayvon. Correct. 3142 02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:18,440 Speaker 3: All right, last thing, let's do some sword ratching this guys. 3143 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:48,560 Speaker 2: Here we go a Broadway feel more man told police 3144 02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:51,160 Speaker 2: he was robbed with his own sword Saturday afternoon after 3145 02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:52,680 Speaker 2: he let a woman he did not know into his 3146 02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:59,039 Speaker 2: house to use his bathroom. What mm hmm his own sword. 3147 02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:02,120 Speaker 2: The resident left the weapon and playing sight thence. It 3148 02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:05,320 Speaker 2: occurred at one pm after Oneman was walking inside to 3149 02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:07,360 Speaker 2: use the bathroom. On her way out, the resident will police. 3150 02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:08,640 Speaker 2: The one picked up the sword in the door and 3151 02:39:08,680 --> 02:39:10,920 Speaker 2: threatened to hurt him if he didn't hand over his wallet. 3152 02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:13,080 Speaker 2: She then shoved the victory to the ground and made 3153 02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:15,120 Speaker 2: off with his wallet containing catch the driver, slice his 3154 02:39:15,160 --> 02:39:17,840 Speaker 2: bank card, social security number, and social security card, to 3155 02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:22,920 Speaker 2: other items. She dropped the sword before running off. Wow, 3156 02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:26,520 Speaker 2: he can't help nobody, man. 3157 02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:27,600 Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. 3158 02:39:29,160 --> 02:39:31,120 Speaker 2: Like you want to unless mine use the bathroom in 3159 02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:32,959 Speaker 2: your house. Next thing you know, you got a fucking 3160 02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:35,119 Speaker 2: sword to your neck. I guess is why I don't 3161 02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:37,640 Speaker 2: keep swords in my house. Same All right, y'all. 3162 02:39:38,160 --> 02:39:40,400 Speaker 3: Talk to you all tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening. 3163 02:39:40,640 --> 02:39:41,880 Speaker 2: Until then, I love you.