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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. It's Carolina against the Niners. And it
Speaker 2: feels like this would be a Thursday night game, but
Speaker 2: it's a really relevant Monday night game, the Panthers and
Speaker 2: the Niners. And I think the Niners are favored by
Speaker 2: six and a half something like that, so it could
Speaker 2: be fun.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Actually it's now seven and a half. Panthers getting seven
Speaker 2: and a half against the Niners over unders. For entertainment purposes,
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Speaker 2: we'll talk with the Rick Neuheisel about Lane Kiffin's decision,
Speaker 2: the pending decision that will probably be announced by Friday
Speaker 2: or at the end of Friday. Raiders have fired their
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly. They were averaging fifteen points per game.
Speaker 2: They brought him in and obviously thought with that quarterback
Speaker 2: running back tight end, they were going to put up
Speaker 2: some points, and they did not. They put up some
Speaker 2: disap points. Oh that's not bad.
Speaker 5: Or in a while you got one.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still under the weather. Okay.
Speaker 5: I doctored that in with the bloop that I gave you.
Speaker 2: So they fire Chip Kelly. Chiefs over the Colts. And
Speaker 2: that's one of those games where the Chiefs. Chiefs are
Speaker 2: going to look back on that game and go, thank
Speaker 2: god we got that win, and the Colts might look
Speaker 2: back on that and go, we could have put them.
Speaker 3: We could have put them to bed.
Speaker 2: The rest of the AFC is going to look back
Speaker 2: and go, come on, Colts, act like you are a contender.
Speaker 2: And that was their moment, that was their here we go.
Speaker 2: Let's see the Colts. Let's go.
Speaker 3: They're winning twenty to nine and I'm going are right.
Speaker 2: But it was too much time and their offense wasn't
Speaker 2: doing anything, and then you gave the Homes an opportunity
Speaker 2: and they were opportunistic.
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs. What's the schedule coming up? PAULI? It
Speaker 3: eases up a little.
Speaker 6: Bit there at the Cowboys on Thanksgiving host the Texans
Speaker 6: host the Chargers at the Titans versus host, the Broncos
Speaker 6: at the Raiders. A lot of winnable games.
Speaker 2: I'd look at two of them that I would say,
Speaker 2: the Raiders and the Titans. But I'm the Texans are good.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule that out. They go to Dallas, Dallas
Speaker 2: is playing, Well, that's not a W. I mean, if
Speaker 2: it is, it's kind of a double not W do
Speaker 2: you wish? Yeah, the Chargers Bronco. No, just say, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe there's maybe there's three wins in there, let's say four,
Speaker 2: so that puts them at Does that give him ten wins? What?
Speaker 5: Yes? Six four wins? We'll get to ten and seven
Speaker 5: with four wins the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Now, you didn't even buzz in. You were like, the
Speaker 3: rest standings.
Speaker 5: Very well, and six or five four wins tenants?
Speaker 2: Okay, ten and seven should get him in in the AFC.
Speaker 2: All right, I was wondering about this. Let's say we
Speaker 2: looked at the MVP candidates and I already mentioned this
Speaker 2: first hour. According to DraftKings, it's Matthew Stafford's to lose.
Speaker 3: Then it's Drake May.
Speaker 2: Those are the two guys who it looks like have
Speaker 2: a legitimate shot to win this, Jonathan Taylor well down
Speaker 2: the list, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. What if the NFL
Speaker 2: did what college football does for the Heisman? What if
Speaker 2: we invited four candidates, maybe five if you want to,
Speaker 2: but let's say four to the NFL Honors Night. Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs, Drake May, Jackson Smith, NJIGMA.
Speaker 3: I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2: Now, you're not going to have Gibbs or Smith NJIGMA win,
Speaker 2: but you want representation there, and I think that would
Speaker 2: be great. And if there's another candidate you want to
Speaker 2: throw in there, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6: Okay for the fifth spot, Miles Garrett or Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 6: the running back of the.
Speaker 3: Corp, I would put Miles Garrett. I'd put Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's gonna end up with the all time sack record,
Speaker 2: single season sack record, and he had three sacks.
Speaker 3: He's got eighteen on the season.
Speaker 2: So since the NFL began tracking individual sacks in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty two, the only player to have more sacks through
Speaker 2: the first twelve games of a season Reggie White. He
Speaker 2: had nineteen in his first twelve games. That was back
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty seven. Stat of Today brought to you
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Speaker 2: The Browns had ten sacks in the win against the Raiders,
Speaker 2: and that is the most in a single game since
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four. Also, Shadoor Sanders is the first Browns
Speaker 2: quarterback to win his first NFL start since the franchise
Speaker 2: returned to Cleveland in nineteen ninety nine. They had seventeen
Speaker 2: quarterbacks make their first NFL start in a Brown's uniform,
Speaker 2: and they all lost.
Speaker 4: Oh stall of a.
Speaker 7: Day, Stanta Day, Statava Day, Stantata day.
Speaker 3: This is the stant of the day.
Speaker 2: I haven't spent a lot of time on Shoudor Sanders,
Speaker 2: and rightfully so, because any other quarterback whose name is
Speaker 2: not Shudor Sanders, we're probably not spending that much time.
Speaker 2: And I know that Dion was at the game. He
Speaker 2: he had a couple of big moments there. I just
Speaker 2: want to let him be able to play instead of
Speaker 2: letting the media use him, you know, as a talking point,
Speaker 2: because I don't need any declarations on Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3: I don't need it.
Speaker 2: Hey, if he would have started the entire season, okay,
Speaker 2: he didn't. Let's see what he does. Be fair to
Speaker 2: the kid. And he had three big plays, but he
Speaker 2: didn't beat himself. He didn't lose a game for his team.
Speaker 2: He had an interception, but he acted like a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2: So there's positives there. Now you're beating the Raiders. Okay,
Speaker 2: Let's see how he does next game against the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers and give him a chance. And I hope
Speaker 2: he gets a chance to start a few more games.
Speaker 2: Then you can find find out if he can play
Speaker 2: or not and put that. But if you're going to
Speaker 2: go with those numbers and say hey, we'll take those
Speaker 2: those numbers, well, that means your defense has to play
Speaker 2: like that against everybody and you're not going to win
Speaker 2: a lot of games if that's the case where you're
Speaker 2: waiting for your defense to have ten sacks. Now, I
Speaker 2: want to see if he can push the ball down
Speaker 2: the field. He had a couple of big plays. He
Speaker 2: will throw the ball deep. I think he gave the
Speaker 2: Browns a boost. I thought it was great. Uh come
Speaker 2: in play and uh you know, see if there's something
Speaker 2: that they can add, you know, to the play calling here.
Speaker 2: But it's good if I give Dylan Gabriel a couple
Speaker 2: more starts. I give Shador Sanders a couple more starts.
Speaker 2: And really, in what I was told is Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 2: was quicker at the line of scrimmage and getting the
Speaker 2: ball out. That was the big thing that he couldn
Speaker 2: have the you know, same arm as Shadoor. Neither of
Speaker 2: them is really that mobile, uh, I mean athletic. But
Speaker 2: and that's what I don't want to see any kind
Speaker 2: of rushing numbers with Shadoor Sanders. I want him staying
Speaker 2: in the pocket. I want him you know, now he
Speaker 2: rolled right a couple of times, that's great, but I
Speaker 2: don't want him trying to, you know, revert back to
Speaker 2: college days where you're trying to extend to play. But
Speaker 2: I thought, for the most part, that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to what I said prior to
Speaker 2: the draft. I thought, the Raiders, we're going to take him.
Speaker 2: With Tom Brady there mentoring him, and the fact that
Speaker 2: you needed a backup quarterback for Gino Smith, I thought
Speaker 2: he was obviously going higher. And then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I talked to my source and said, you know,
Speaker 2: he's dropping for a variety of reasons. But what you
Speaker 2: saw yesterday good for him and the Cleveland Browns more importantly, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 6: Right now, the Browns had the second rank defense and
Speaker 6: yards given up in the NFL. What a big advantage
Speaker 6: for any young quarterback to have that. No, not a
Speaker 6: lot of pressure to put up thirty five points.
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott through for three point fifty four. He surpassed
Speaker 2: Tony Romo for the most in Cowboys franchise history. And
Speaker 2: they came back from twenty one zip. That equals the
Speaker 2: biggest comeback in franchise history. You go back to twenty
Speaker 2: fourteen against the Rams and with the Eagles, the questions
Speaker 2: are there. It's weird how we're not quite sure, like
Speaker 2: what is happening here? You're not running the football. Give
Speaker 2: credit to Dallas the up the run Saquon Barkley, but
Speaker 2: do you have twenty six yards? I mean that's crazy
Speaker 2: and a fumble. I mean their best play might be
Speaker 2: the tush push. Why not just line up and just
Speaker 2: do that to an entire series, Just go We're just
Speaker 2: going to do this down the field. Let's make a
Speaker 2: total mockery of the tush push. But you just keep
Speaker 2: watching and you're going there there's something there. And I've
Speaker 2: said this from the outset that there just felt like
Speaker 2: there was some kind of disconnect, something, an underlying.
Speaker 3: Issue or two.
Speaker 2: And you saw that you're up twenty one nothing and
Speaker 2: nobody's got any worries until you're not scoring any points.
Speaker 2: In Dallas all of a sudden makes a couple of
Speaker 2: plays and give them credit. You know, Dallas, it's become
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a you don't just say that's a
Speaker 2: w Yeah, Chiefs got the Cowboys and that's not a
Speaker 2: given and that defense that'll be an interesting test for
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, if.
Speaker 6: You were Saquon Barkley, they were on the one yard
Speaker 6: line last night the Eagles after our catch, would you
Speaker 6: be salty at all that you don't get the ball
Speaker 6: at the one yard line to punch it in? Well,
Speaker 6: their best play is a tousch push, right, But also
Speaker 6: he's a really tough goal line running back. You wouldn't
Speaker 6: mix it up a little bit and keep your star
Speaker 6: running back happy.
Speaker 3: I was with a couple people yesterday.
Speaker 6: We were discussing It's like, if you're Barkley, you'd be like, let's.
Speaker 3: Mix it up.
Speaker 2: No, I score a touchdown. I'm not here for feelings.
Speaker 2: I got a win, Like, hey, let's give it to Saquon,
Speaker 2: keep him happy. I got to score a touchdown. And
Speaker 2: this is an offense that's been spotty, Yes, Todd, but.
Speaker 8: If they're all expecting the toushbush, what about rolling out
Speaker 8: and then it's hurts, take it around the bend or
Speaker 8: if they come up on you a little dump it
Speaker 8: to the tight end.
Speaker 5: Just once in a while.
Speaker 8: I kind of would like to see that everyone's expecting
Speaker 8: you to just push forward and even as high a.
Speaker 5: Percentage as that is, just roll out and run it in.
Speaker 3: You don't stump it.
Speaker 2: You don't get extra points for creativity. No, you know what,
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you eight points.
Speaker 8: But give them something to think about in their quarters
Speaker 8: and weeks to come down.
Speaker 5: Wait, once in a while, they don't do the twitch perss,
Speaker 5: they go around the bend.
Speaker 4: What's the poll question for hour two seton? We got
Speaker 4: one here from Paul the over five hundred team. You
Speaker 4: believe in the least.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: He's gonna start with his Bears, then Jaguars, Panthers, forty
Speaker 4: nine ers.
Speaker 2: It's weird to believe in Carolina more than Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: But I've watched two full games with the Panthers.
Speaker 4: And it's weird for the forty nine ers to be
Speaker 4: on that list with those teams and make sense, like
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, pauling.
Speaker 6: To be Devil's advocate here with the Bears. The quarterback
Speaker 6: they quarterbacks they've beaten in the last six games, Mason Rudolph,
Speaker 6: Agian McCarthy, Jackson Dart, Joe Flacco, Tyler Huntley which they
Speaker 6: lost to, and Spencer Rattler. They're doing it against not
Speaker 6: the best quarterbacks. It makes you question what they could
Speaker 6: do against a good team, a very good team.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I still think they're a playoff caliber team.
Speaker 3: Of course I said that last year as well, but.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville still that, like they got seven wins, like it's
Speaker 2: just you're going, okay, all right. And I'm watching the
Speaker 2: NFC South Dang Panthers. I mean, Panthers could win their division.
Speaker 2: My Panthers could win the division. There, I'm watching the Falcons.
Speaker 2: I tune in and I see Kirk Cousins hesitate on
Speaker 2: an in route and he throws a pick six, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, kirkty cousins watching the Saints.
Speaker 2: I watch the litle bit of that Taysom Hill got
Speaker 2: in a corner back.
Speaker 6: All they're always surprised when he runs it.
Speaker 3: I know they're always surprised.
Speaker 2: Uh, Taysom Hill's in, here's a run, and then he
Speaker 2: does run. I think he lost yards there. Yes, Seed, it.
Speaker 4: Feels like we're running down a lot of times a
Speaker 4: lot of teams. I still have the Mike Tomlin topic
Speaker 4: in my head a little bit where I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: I bet those teams would trade with a with a
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin like run. Oh yeah for a while. Man,
Speaker 4: I think sometimes being competitive, even if you don't win,
Speaker 4: it's a little underrated.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but the bar was set so high, and
Speaker 2: I think, now, okay, let me see if he's we're
Speaker 2: going to go back to a super Bowl, we're gonna
Speaker 2: go to an AFC title game. That your that's your
Speaker 2: expectations in Carolina. It's just get through the season without
Speaker 2: getting fired or you know, Tennessee, uh some of these
Speaker 2: other Saints where you're going, you know, what's your what's
Speaker 2: your goal? Not get fired? Try to make it through
Speaker 2: all seventeen games. Yes, Marmon Seton's.
Speaker 9: Point, the Steelers really haven't had like a great roster.
Speaker 9: Their defense hasn't been all that great besides TJ. Watt,
Speaker 9: and they haven't had a quarterback. So it's pretty admirable
Speaker 9: for Tomlin to do what he's been doing with this roster.
Speaker 3: They're not good, Yeah, but why aren't they good? Did
Speaker 3: they have talent?
Speaker 2: Remember they had to get rid of their GM, and
Speaker 2: then they got rid of their GM, and then so
Speaker 2: is it the GM?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've had some defensive playmakers aside from TJ. Watt,
Speaker 2: but you know, the division, it is kind of spotty.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: Baltimore has been pretty good, but Cincinnati can be up
Speaker 2: and down and their coach probably will lose his job
Speaker 2: the Brown situation. No don't, but I do think that
Speaker 2: there is a local perception of Mike Tomlin that is
Speaker 2: completely different than the national perception.
Speaker 3: Yes, Mark, I'm with you.
Speaker 9: For me is great wide receivers with tons of potential
Speaker 9: that end up not doing anything for whatever reason. They
Speaker 9: go off the deep end, and I'm like, man, this
Speaker 9: is all under your watch, Mike, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Okay, but is he drafting these guys or is the
Speaker 2: GM drafting these guys? Does he have to put up
Speaker 2: with these personalities I got, I don't know the chain
Speaker 2: of command and how much, say Mike Tomlin has.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, do we really think after this many years Mike
Speaker 4: Tomlin doesn't have say in the players that they're bringing in.
Speaker 2: I would I would think he would have a say.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, But it's do I give him credit
Speaker 2: or do I give him blame? Because I don't know
Speaker 2: if he got credit for the players they did bring
Speaker 2: in that like did he want T J.
Speaker 3: Watt? Like, I don't know, Yeah, Polly.
Speaker 6: I've got a lot of notes from Steelers fans on
Speaker 6: social media saying Mike Tomlin, in their opinion, I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's a report has complete control over the
Speaker 6: roster over the past ten years, like as it works
Speaker 6: with the GM, nothing is done without Tomlin's approval.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's true, but a lot of
Speaker 6: people say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then we should ding him on that that
Speaker 2: it's not Hey, you drafted him. I got to coach him.
Speaker 2: If he's involved in this, then you know he's part
Speaker 2: of the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeh See, Which is I get to that callers point
Speaker 4: he won with Cowers. Guys, yeah, and hasn't done anything
Speaker 4: with his own.
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Speaker 2: Panthers getting seven and a half tonight against the forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers a surprisingly competitive matchup here. When you look
Speaker 2: just at records Niners seven and four and the Panthers
Speaker 2: are six and five, it feels like a Thursday night
Speaker 2: game on a Monday night a seven to seven to
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Speaker 2: former Heisman winner, and his podcast is Out of Pocket
Speaker 2: with RG three. He was on the call for BYU's
Speaker 2: win over Cincinnati on Saturday. Good to see you again.
Speaker 2: Let me start with the Browns situation and what would
Speaker 2: your philosophy be, coaching philosophy be moving forward with the
Speaker 2: quarterbacking situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Dan shed stand, this should be the
Speaker 3: starter move forward.
Speaker 11: And I say that fully knowing that if you listen
Speaker 11: to Kevin Stefanski's postgame speech, he wanted nothing with giving
Speaker 11: Shadder any type of credit for the way that the
Speaker 11: team performed. And I know the skeptics out there, I'll say, well,
Speaker 11: he had one hundred and forty six yards of yards
Speaker 11: after the catch and he had a bad interception. But
Speaker 11: when you watch the actual game and you watched how
Speaker 11: the team responded to him, you haven't seen that from
Speaker 11: a quarterback at the starting position for the Clinton Browns
Speaker 11: in quite some time. And it's just so's It's an
Speaker 11: interesting thing because when you love the game of football,
Speaker 11: sometimes the game will love you back.
Speaker 3: Not always, but sometimes it does.
Speaker 11: And when you look at Shader's situation come into the season,
Speaker 11: Joe Flacco is a starter. He's not there anymore. He's
Speaker 11: in he's in Cincinnati. Kenny Pickett is a guy they
Speaker 11: wanted to be the starter. He got hurt in training camp.
Speaker 11: Then Dylan Gabriel comes in, the guy that the head
Speaker 11: coach clearly prefers and loves, and he gets hurt and
Speaker 11: gets a concussion. So when you get your opportunity to
Speaker 11: have your first full week of practice reps with the
Speaker 11: number one offense and you go out there and you
Speaker 11: perform the way that he did to me, that just
Speaker 11: shows you when the team responds to you, they play
Speaker 11: with more purpose, they play with more excitement. The defense
Speaker 11: comes away with ten sacks. I think you have the
Speaker 11: guy in the building right now that should be the
Speaker 11: starter for the remainder of the season. And the big thing, Dan,
Speaker 11: it wasn't just like, hey take the simple stuff. It
Speaker 11: was the extended plays, the big playmaking on the broken
Speaker 11: plays that they've been missing this entire season that Shadera
Speaker 11: was able to pull off. And I think that's why
Speaker 11: he should be the starter.
Speaker 3: What do you think of this idea.
Speaker 2: If I treat the NFL MVP like the Heisman and
Speaker 2: I invite Matthew Stafford, Jamiir Gibbs, Drake May, Jackson Smith, Jigma,
Speaker 2: and Miles Garrett. Okay, what do you think if those
Speaker 2: guys are all there and we make the announcement of
Speaker 2: the MVP. So, I know, Jamir Gibbs isn't gonna win,
Speaker 2: or Smith, the Jigma, Miles Garrett because he's a defensive player,
Speaker 2: but to have representation would be great at multiple positions.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was going to say, but why not? You
Speaker 11: know we've gotten stuck on this. Hey, the quarterback has
Speaker 11: to win the MVP or the quarterback has to win
Speaker 11: the Heisman Trophy, and I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 11: that's the case at all. Right now, when you talk
Speaker 11: about the Heisman Trophy, the top two guys on my
Speaker 11: list are Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker from Texas Tech, and
Speaker 11: Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame. So I
Speaker 11: don't know why we have to be stuck into that.
Speaker 11: I understand that quarterbacks are the sexy pick, right, They
Speaker 11: sell more jerseys, they more people know who the quarterbacks are.
Speaker 11: But I tweeted out yesterday that I think Jackson Smith
Speaker 11: and jig but should be on everybody's list.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 11: I do believe that Matt Stafford should be at the
Speaker 11: top of everybody's list because I don't think anyone's playing
Speaker 11: quarterback better than he is right now. And the Rams
Speaker 11: are absolutely rolling. But when you look at Miles Garrett,
Speaker 11: the only thing that could maybe prevent him from winning
Speaker 11: MVP is the Browns record eighteen sacks in eleven games
Speaker 11: is unheard of. He is going to add absolutely smash
Speaker 11: my colleague Michael Stohan's record when it comes to saxon
Speaker 11: a season. But I think all these guys, when you
Speaker 11: have these super impressive years Saquon Barkley last year, I
Speaker 11: felt like should have been probably should have won NFL MVP.
Speaker 11: So I am not a guy and I've been I
Speaker 11: don't want to say maligned for it, but I have
Speaker 11: been chastised for it by some of my colleagues on
Speaker 11: my stops about putting guys that are not quarterbacks in
Speaker 11: that MVP race. But this year shows you exactly what
Speaker 11: you're talking about. Dan running backs, wide receivers, defensive ends, well,
Speaker 11: they should all be in that conversation, and why not
Speaker 11: make it more of an event to go out and
Speaker 11: be able to announce the NFL MVP and truly tell
Speaker 11: those guys' stories in a unique way, just like we
Speaker 11: do with the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2: Should we be focusing more on the Cowboys comeback or
Speaker 2: the Eagles collapse?
Speaker 3: I think it should be focusing on the Cowboys comeback.
Speaker 11: I will say this about the Eagles. If people were
Speaker 11: upset that they were eight and two, oh, they're definitely
Speaker 11: upset now that they're eight and three and they gave
Speaker 11: up twenty four nuns at points to.
Speaker 3: Their division rival.
Speaker 11: I do believe that Jalen Hurts and the criticism around
Speaker 11: him it's not just unfair, because then we know this
Speaker 11: life is not fair, right, it is what it is.
Speaker 11: But I just think it's not justified. There's a lot
Speaker 11: of teams that wish they could be eight and three
Speaker 11: right now, and Jalen Hurts shouldn't be getting some of
Speaker 11: the criticism that he is.
Speaker 3: But to focus on the Cowboys.
Speaker 11: How amazing of a pickup has George Pickens been? I
Speaker 11: mean when you look at receivers, and this is something
Speaker 11: my coaches are talking to him all the time. Don't
Speaker 11: just look at a guy's catches in his yards, look
Speaker 11: at his targets and how many, what share or percentage
Speaker 11: of his targets is he actually catching?
Speaker 3: Do you have to throw it to him fifteen times
Speaker 3: for him to catch ten of them?
Speaker 11: And Pickins last night nine targets, nine catches, one hundred
Speaker 11: and forty six yards and talk about efficiency for them
Speaker 11: to come back the way that they did, I think
Speaker 11: he was a big part of that. Dak is obviously
Speaker 11: playing an extremely high level. Funniest thing I saw on
Speaker 11: the internet though, was the Eagles posting a wall of
Speaker 11: all their defenders and saying who's going to get past this?
Speaker 11: And after the Cowboys won, they posted a picture of
Speaker 11: Dak Prescott as the kool Aid Man and that made
Speaker 11: me last harder than anything yesterday, So that was pretty epic.
Speaker 11: They definitely won the day on Twitter for the Cowboys
Speaker 11: social media team.
Speaker 2: Okay, but why do the Steelers move on from George Pickens?
Speaker 2: And would you give him a long term deal? If
Speaker 2: you're Jerry Jones, I mean, Jerry.
Speaker 11: Jones wouldn't give Michael pars Is a long term deal.
Speaker 11: But I think when you have wide receivers, you have
Speaker 11: to be willing to manage the good with the bad.
Speaker 11: And I think in Pittsburgh George Pickens had kind of
Speaker 11: wore out his welcome. I think they felt like they
Speaker 11: were on an Antonio Brown track with him there. And
Speaker 11: you I have to give Pickens credit because I know
Speaker 11: they're gonna people are gonna, you know, kill the Steelers
Speaker 11: are saying, why would you get rid of this guy?
Speaker 3: You just got to understand all the stuff that was
Speaker 3: going on there.
Speaker 11: And now Pickens has come to the Dallas Cowboys, a
Speaker 11: team that most would say doesn't have a great team culture,
Speaker 11: and he's been a great teammate. So I just took
Speaker 11: my cap to Pickens to say to see him mature
Speaker 11: so much in just a year. I think Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 11: has a lot to do with that as well. And
Speaker 11: you know, when you go to Dallas as a receiver,
Speaker 11: there's one thing you will get, it's your numbers. And
Speaker 11: I think I have had to manage receivers who all
Speaker 11: want the ball.
Speaker 3: And at the.
Speaker 11: College level, I had four guys that could all have
Speaker 11: one hundred catches in a season. I didn't quite have
Speaker 11: that in the NFL. But you have to learn to
Speaker 11: manage those situations and those relationships while trying to win
Speaker 11: and trying to help those receivers get paid. And I
Speaker 11: think Pickens is very, very thankful for Dak Prescott because
Speaker 11: not only are they winning, but he's also getting his numbers,
Speaker 11: which is going to change his life.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to RG three his out of pocket podcast.
Speaker 2: Out of Pocket with RG three, wherever you get your podcast,
Speaker 2: give me the team or teams you're just not quite
Speaker 2: sure of right now.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, and they're not gonna like this one, but
Speaker 11: it's still for me.
Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 11: And the reason I say that is they had a
Speaker 11: very unique opportunity this past weekend to beat Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 11: and the Kansity Chiefs in the way that no one
Speaker 11: thought they could beat them. And for Daniel Jones, he's
Speaker 11: proved a lot of people wrong, including myself, with.
Speaker 3: The way that he's played this year.
Speaker 11: But he started hot, and over the past couple of
Speaker 11: weeks he started to cool off just a little bit
Speaker 11: and maybe come back down to.
Speaker 3: Earth, but he's played his tail off.
Speaker 11: I had him in the MVP a couple of weeks
Speaker 11: ago because listen, when you Dan, you know this when
Speaker 11: you're wrong about something, you gotta admit it. And I
Speaker 11: did not think that he would play as well as
Speaker 11: he had with the Colts. But the knock on him
Speaker 11: was the same knock that was on Sam Donald, you know,
Speaker 11: the same knock that's been on other guys that have
Speaker 11: gone places and had extreme success in the regular season,
Speaker 11: but then when they get in those big time playoff matchups,
Speaker 11: they don't quite live up to the expectation. And this,
Speaker 11: to me, was a playoff game for the Colts, and
Speaker 11: they had the Chiefs beat and they came back Patrick
Speaker 11: Mahomes through for three hundred and fifty two yards, no touchdowns,
Speaker 11: but they were able to call themselves back from an
Speaker 11: eleven point deficit and win the game, And that to
Speaker 11: me was a sign of like, can Daniel Jones? Can
Speaker 11: can he close the door on a big time quarterback
Speaker 11: the best that we have I think in the galaxy still.
Speaker 11: I know Stafford is playing the best right now, but
Speaker 11: Mahomes is on pace to be the greatest ever and
Speaker 11: he couldn't.
Speaker 3: Do it on the Chiefs off day. That to me
Speaker 3: was the thing.
Speaker 11: I'm like, Man, I'm just not sure about them as
Speaker 11: a whole competing in the playoffs if they couldn't beat
Speaker 11: this version of the Kansaity Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Explain to me, Matthew Stafford at this age doing what
Speaker 2: he's doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said it yesterday.
Speaker 11: I don't think I can remember a quarterback with his
Speaker 11: level of arm talent that's played this well at the
Speaker 11: age of thirty seven years old.
Speaker 3: But explain arm talent.
Speaker 11: What are we talking about When people say arm talent,
Speaker 11: there's varying different variations of it, Like is it a
Speaker 11: strong arm?
Speaker 3: Is it the arm angles? Is it? The timing? Is
Speaker 3: it the flick of the wrists? Is the way it
Speaker 3: looks when you make those throws?
Speaker 11: I think he has all of that, and he's playing
Speaker 11: better than I think he's ever played in his career.
Speaker 11: So when I watched the game, you know, some guys
Speaker 11: they drop back, hey, rhythm and feed clean eyes, clean feet.
Speaker 11: He's getting there in the second hitch when he's supposed to,
Speaker 11: like Stafford, It's like poetry in motion, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, that was a good throw.
Speaker 11: Like he made the two box he made the two
Speaker 11: fade throws to DeVante Adams and the second one where
Speaker 11: DeVante ran up the tunnel. It was an extended handoff.
Speaker 11: When he threw it, I said, oh, that was beautiful.
Speaker 11: Devonte hadn't even caught the ball yet, but I just
Speaker 11: knew watching the throw and the way that he put
Speaker 11: He puts a little style at the end of some
Speaker 11: of his throws, and you know, coaches would talk to
Speaker 11: me about that, like, you know, as a quarterback when
Speaker 11: ooh I got him. Yeah, I didn't pull the string.
Speaker 11: I dropped it in the bucket. And when you watch
Speaker 11: him make those kind of throws, you're almost certain he's
Speaker 11: gonna complete every single pass. To me, his arm talent,
Speaker 11: he's the king of the no look throw. I know
Speaker 11: we all praise Patrick Mahomes for it, but Stafford's doing
Speaker 11: it like eight times a game, and he's doing it
Speaker 11: with his helmet stripe. So he'll throw over here, but
Speaker 11: his helmet stripe is this way and his eyes are
Speaker 11: over here, and like most go they throw interceptions because
Speaker 11: you can't peripherally see who's all back here. So I've
Speaker 11: just been completely amazed, to be quite honest, with what
Speaker 11: Stafford has done. It's hard for guys to carry that
Speaker 11: arm talent into their late thirties early forties, and we
Speaker 11: saw that with Peyton, we saw that with Tom, and
Speaker 11: now we're seeing Stafford defy all those odds and he
Speaker 11: looks like he could play for another five, six, seven
Speaker 11: years the way he's playing this year.
Speaker 3: Best team in the NFL is wow. Best team in
Speaker 3: the NFL, LA Rams.
Speaker 11: I really believe they when you look at the way
Speaker 11: they're structured. Two number one receivers and DeVante Adams and
Speaker 11: Pukinacua quarterbacks playing at an MVP level. Two running backs
Speaker 11: and Blake Korn and Kiren that are that give you
Speaker 11: everything you absolutely need, and their defense is just smothering.
Speaker 3: I mean, I felt bad for Baker with the shoulder.
Speaker 11: Don't know what the injury prognosis is going to be
Speaker 11: for him, but it was almost as if he was
Speaker 11: out there fending for himself. That this Rams team. I
Speaker 11: know they don't have Aaron Donald, and I know they
Speaker 11: won a Super Bowl, but this might be the best
Speaker 11: Rams team that Sean McVay has ever had.
Speaker 2: Did you ever kid around with Andrew Luck beat me
Speaker 2: Mount for the Heisman?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We me and Andrew go way back. We were Texas competing.
Speaker 11: We never played against each other, but I've known Edgi
Speaker 11: for a really long time, and when we got to
Speaker 11: the Heisman, it was you know, he was the guy
Speaker 11: that everybody thought was going to win for the past
Speaker 11: three years when we got there, and he definitely wanted
Speaker 11: to win that award. It just so happened that we
Speaker 11: had a better year.
Speaker 3: PAULI, do you have the voting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got him by about two hundred votes. It's
Speaker 6: pretty close.
Speaker 3: Beatle joke around with Andrew with a few.
Speaker 11: I am not the guy that poked and Pride's guys
Speaker 11: about the Heisman Trophy. I look at it more as
Speaker 11: an honor as opposed to, hey, I want it, you didn't.
Speaker 11: And I actually took everybody out. So they give you
Speaker 11: an opportunity to take a limo by yourself, go out
Speaker 11: in town, have fun with your people, or you can
Speaker 11: get limos for everybody and everybody can go out on
Speaker 11: the town.
Speaker 3: So I chose to bring everybody out.
Speaker 11: Monti Ball, Tire, Matthew, Andrew Luck, Trent Richardson, and we
Speaker 11: had a great time on the city there in New York.
Speaker 11: But it's been cool to watch Andrew, you know, at
Speaker 11: Stanford being the general manager and the reaction he had
Speaker 11: on the sideline this past weekend with a scoop and
Speaker 11: score shows you how much he loves football. And I'm
Speaker 11: happy for him because at the end of the day,
Speaker 11: this guy retired early, right, he retired early when everyone
Speaker 11: thought he was at the prime of his career.
Speaker 3: Because he didn't love football anymore. So it's awesome to
Speaker 3: see him back in love of football. Could you see
Speaker 3: him being the head coach at Stanford next year? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he's already pretty much?
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
Speaker 2: Just that's what I felt that, Like he's he it's
Speaker 2: so into it, he's so close that that's as close
Speaker 2: as you can get to the action by being the
Speaker 2: head coach.
Speaker 11: So he could take that stand up for job Dan,
Speaker 11: don't you think it's the smartest way to do it?
Speaker 11: Like he's a general manager. They're interviewing him on the sideline.
Speaker 11: How many other general managers are getting interviewed in the
Speaker 11: middle of the dow?
Speaker 3: I know, yea, the team isn't that good this year? Yeah?
Speaker 11: What they could potentially be really good over the next
Speaker 11: couple of years. And then he just waltzes right in there,
Speaker 11: puts the head coach hat on, and now he doesn't
Speaker 11: have to take those losses on his record. He can have,
Speaker 11: he can have a good team and go out there
Speaker 11: and make it happen. I'm really happy for him.
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving, God bless.
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Speaker 2: I'll ask him what he thinks Lane Kiffin is going
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Supposed to get that answer. By the end of the week.
Speaker 2: It's Mississippi against Mississippi State, and you know that's one
Speaker 2: of those where a coach doesn't want distractions leading up
Speaker 2: to any big games, but then he's the distraction leading
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Speaker 2: Worst of the Weekend.
Speaker 5: Best of the weekend.
Speaker 10: He did it.
Speaker 8: In a tough fifty one to forty seven lost to Utah.
Speaker 8: But how about some left for Kansasity running back Joe
Speaker 8: Jackson rush for nearly three hundred yards, found the end
Speaker 8: zone in Salt Lake on three occasions as well. Little
Speaker 8: love for Joe Jackson For my best worst, Syracuse a
Speaker 8: lot of quick twenty one points before Notre Dame's offense
Speaker 8: ever got on the field to pick six a block
Speaker 8: punt for a touchdown. The injury plagued Arne squeeze in
Speaker 8: South Bend seventy to seven.
Speaker 2: Yikes, I tuned in. It was twenty one nothing go?
Speaker 2: How did you score twenty one points?
Speaker 3: That was crazy? And all of a sudden, I go
Speaker 3: and the offense hasn't been on the field yet. That
Speaker 3: was crazy. Yes it was, Yes, it was.
Speaker 4: I felt terrible for Syracuse there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my goodness. The Seaton best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 4: My best of the weekend is going to be a
Speaker 4: tie between the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Both of their
Speaker 4: seasons sort of reborn, both of them kind of saved
Speaker 4: their Chiefs really needed that win. My worst of the
Speaker 4: weekend is going to be Shane Steike and.
Speaker 3: Man, you have the Chiefs on the ropes.
Speaker 4: You have Patrick Mahomes down, and you you found a
Speaker 4: way to blue that I don't know if Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 4: got enough carries and overtime, I don't know if you
Speaker 4: punt on fourth and four.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: There was just a lot of questionable decisions that were
Speaker 4: made that maybe we'll continue as a storyline throughout the
Speaker 4: rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Felt like the Colts did a disservice to every other
Speaker 2: team in the NFL, all the contenders. Yes, because that's
Speaker 2: where everybuddy goes, Hey, Colts are leading twenty to nine.
Speaker 4: This is I would bet now, like the rest of
Speaker 4: my pay for the year that the Chiefs win the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Now, just based off of that game where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this is where their season turns around.
Speaker 4: This is why they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 12: This game stinks, Marvin, best and worst of the weekend,
Speaker 12: Your boy, my boy, diego Pavilla from Vanderbilt thirty three
Speaker 12: to thirty nine, four and eighty four yards, five touchdowns.
Speaker 9: Dude's been on a roll. Worse of the weekend. Fritzy
Speaker 9: took mine, so I'm gonna go my second worst. The
Speaker 9: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield, three weeks ago was an
Speaker 9: MVP candidate. They've lost three straight and he got hurt.
Speaker 6: PAULI Best and worst Pitt Panthers is forty two to
Speaker 6: twenty eight over Georgia Tech freshman running back Jackiri and
Speaker 6: Turner twenty one carries two hundred and one yards to
Speaker 6: lead the Pitt Panthers and another running back BYU running
Speaker 6: back L. J. Martin thirty two carries to twenty two
Speaker 6: and two touchdowns BYU is now ten and one.
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Speaker 10: Hey Zach, adp thanks for taking my call. The best
Speaker 10: of the weekend was at one o'clock Slate, just all
Speaker 10: the endings and the witching hour, as Todd Hansen likes
Speaker 10: to say. But the worst of the weekend was jaw
Speaker 10: Moran almost going full Jah Morant.
Speaker 3: There was no gun involved.
Speaker 10: But I love that he calls a multiple time champion
Speaker 10: in one of the greatest shooters in the NBA at
Speaker 10: bum and I would just say, make it to the finals,
Speaker 10: or maybe just make it through a season without posting
Speaker 10: a gun on Instagram live before you want to take
Speaker 10: shots at someone like Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was embarrassed for Jah Morant. He's not even playing.
Speaker 2: You're in street clothes. You should shut up. How about play?
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna call Klay Thompson a bum. There
Speaker 2: have been very few professional athletes who were more professional
Speaker 2: on and off the court than Clay. Steve Kerr would
Speaker 2: tell you that he wasn't high maintenance, he wasn't low maintenance.
Speaker 3: He was no maintenance.
Speaker 2: He accepted his role, he played it great. He's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. And I got some kid on the
Speaker 2: sidelines in street clothes who can't stay healthy and stay
Speaker 2: out of trouble hauling Klay Thompson a bum. Michael and Ohio,
Speaker 2: Hi Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Gentlemen? Six to two, Slim one seventy five, Best of
Speaker 13: the Weekend. Hold on to your horses because this is
Speaker 13: going to be really weird. Listen to Fritzy talk about
Speaker 13: his trip in Vegas and the highlight being these amazing
Speaker 13: curtains and eating his snacks and drinking his drinking dues
Speaker 13: and just people watching. I think I found my spirit
Speaker 13: animal because honestly, that really resonated with me and I'm
Speaker 13: a little scared. So thank you, Fritzy. That's my best
Speaker 13: and worst a teacher at you and Awaiton Liman and
Speaker 13: our women's soccer team got invited to the NAIA National
Speaker 13: Attorney but we lost in the first round, so that
Speaker 13: was the worst. But hey, gentlemen, if you give me
Speaker 13: your sizes, I can send you some un oh swag
Speaker 13: go racers.
Speaker 2: Absolutely send a large and extra large there. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2: And I will say the curtains at the Fountain Blue
Speaker 2: are pretty spectacular. Like you press a button and they
Speaker 2: open up and even if you just pull on the
Speaker 2: curtain a little bit, it'll close. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't have to hit the button. I mean it's
Speaker 2: in fairness to Todd. Now, I wouldn't spend my whole
Speaker 2: you know week there, I'd walk around, maybe go outside
Speaker 2: for a moment. Yeah, but you you were playing with
Speaker 2: the curtain. You were fascinated with the curtains.
Speaker 8: You could put all the lights on gim them, shut
Speaker 8: them off, and then the curtains open and there's the
Speaker 8: sphere in the whole strip.
Speaker 5: It's like, that's a big deal to me.
Speaker 2: By the way, we spend a lot of time with
Speaker 2: Frank Caliendo when we were out there, and he did
Speaker 2: a James in Virginia impersonation at one point, segue James
Speaker 2: and Virginia joining us, Hey James.
Speaker 14: They called me completely off guard, DP. My call, man,
Speaker 14: that that is the humbling to say the least.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 14: I would love to hear that, man. I tell you what, Man,
Speaker 14: the interview you did with Prawley Cowarly, the gentleman of
Speaker 14: the f one, he had me rolling. Man, his energy
Speaker 14: was through the roof. I love that room. Excuse me,
Speaker 14: you really called me off guard with Frank Caliendo. That
Speaker 14: guy's the man. I definitely am calling about college football
Speaker 14: and NFL real quick, DP, Man, I don't know if
Speaker 14: Alabama is going to make the college football playoffs. Eight
Speaker 14: of the top eleven teams are undefeated or have one loss.
Speaker 14: Now the caveat is a couple of them will play
Speaker 14: each other in cover championships. But I don't think the
Speaker 14: team should get deemed for losing the conference title games,
Speaker 14: but I don't make those fonts, but definitely that loss
Speaker 14: to Florida State earlier in the year and woming large
Speaker 14: for Alabama. And in the NFL, you have ten teams
Speaker 14: in both conferences fighting for seven playoff spots. I don't
Speaker 14: know if ten and seven gets you in in either conference.
Speaker 2: Man Well, running out of time, James Final Hour on
Speaker 2: this Monday More calls Best and Worst of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Rick new Heiser will join us. We'll talk to him
Speaker 2: about that Notre Dame Miami conundrum for the committee, and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Lane Kiffin's future that's coming up.