1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sportsradio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Thursday. Tom Brady stops 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: my live in twenty minutes. This in Chicago is the Herd. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: for making us part of your day. John Harbaugh five 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: year deal, is going to be the head coach of 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the New York Giant. And that's where we begin today. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: If you want to go from a bad team team 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL to a good team in the NFL, 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: there's only one thing you can absolutely control. Hire the 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: best coach on the market, whatever it costs, whatever it takes. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: You can draft a quarterback top five. He could stink. 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: Players get hurt. Coaches don't. John Harbot is the best 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: resume and is the best culture builder on the market, 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: and the Giants smartly hired him first, meaning they'll get 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: the best pick of the assistant coaches and coordinators on 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: the market. There's very little you can control in the NFL. 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: You can control hiring the first coach, getting the best assistance, 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: and hiring the best resume. Yes, I know New York 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: is a tough market. The media is scary, but that's 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: not why the Jets and the Giants have been Hasmatt 29 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: spills for a decade plus. They have been because they 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: went cheap and a sperimental at head coach. The last 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: time the Giants were good, it was Tom Cofflin, who 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: coached at Boston College at the time, beat Notre Dame 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: who was number one, and went to Jacksonville. There was 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: no experimenting. He was a leader, a culture builder, successful. 35 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I look at Aaron Glenn and the New York Jets. 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: You're not asking him to coach, You're asking him to 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: fix a completely broken culture. And I don't think Aaron 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Glenn's good enough. And clearly all the guys after Conflin 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: weren't good enough. These nine coaching openings in the NFL 40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: now eight, they're not looking for scheme guy. They're not 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: looking for guy that's good. In the whiteboard, they're looking 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: for CEOs. Okay, Harball, this is a job for a hardball, 43 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Like Jim to the Chargers, John to the Giants, this 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: is a job for a hardball. The Giants didn't need 45 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, they needed a crisis coordinator. And similar 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: to Mike Vrabel and New England, the day you higher 47 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, he is immediately the best coach in the division. 48 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Say it out loud, Nick Seriani, Brian Schottenheimer, Dan Quinn, 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. In a couple of those instances, it's not 50 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: even close. And the Giants had a lot of pieces. 51 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: So for four years in a row, I have picked 52 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: a team successfully four for four pat in the back 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: that would double their win total. The New York Giants 54 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: this morning, four and thirteen this year are minimum double 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: the win total next year. My guess they get the 56 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: ten to eleven because like when Brady went to Tampa 57 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady could have chosen any team, but he 58 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: chose that Tampa team that was about five hundred, that 59 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: had a star receiver, that had really good pass rushers, 60 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Like the Giants had a pretty good old line. Left 61 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: tackle was good, but they needed a right tackle, and 62 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks drafted Tristan wurs Well, what do you know. 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: The Giants need a right tackle and it is an 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: unbelievably good edge rusher and offensive tackle draft. Sometimes you 65 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: get lucky. The Giants need what this draft provides. In fact, 66 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: they could move down a couple of spots, accumulate more picks, 67 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: and perhaps still get one of the two best tackles 68 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: on the market. Weapons they've got them winning coach. For 69 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the last several years, the Giants have been hiring Belichick 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: tree guys, finger crossers, coordinators. None of it works. Harbaugh's 71 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: proven confidence, proven culture builder. And I know you don't 72 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: want to hear this. I know you're looking this morning 73 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: down at the New York Jets, But the Giants are 74 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: the Jets since Coughlin, with a trophy room, with better 75 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: archive footage, you have been the Jets. Now the Jets 76 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: are still trying to dig their way, and the Jets 77 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: seemingly keep grabbing a shovel and digging deeper. But the 78 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Giants officially didn't get a scheme guy. They got a 79 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: culture guy, Vrabel Jim Harbaugh. This is a job that 80 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: needs not Superman, harball man, and they got him. Here's 81 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Albert Brewery yesterday on Harball and the Giants. 82 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: The Giants job, how attractive it is is largely dependent 83 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: on what you think of Jackson Dart. That said, they 84 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: have a lot of other things with the Giants, Like 85 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: you said, franchise left tackle and Andrew Thomas, franchise receiver in. 86 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 4: Molik neighbors. 87 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: On the defensive front, I mean, my goodness, Brian Burns, 88 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Abdulla Carter, Dexter Lawrence, you have a chance to be 89 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: dominant up front right out of the shoot. And this 90 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: is why, like the last couple of years, I felt 91 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: like they were the team right on the edge. But 92 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: if you love Dart, I think it's got everything that 93 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: you'd want, statele ownership, all of that. 94 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk about a team that is 95 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: still looking for a coach. And whereas the Giants bottomed out, 96 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: they didn't want to for all these years, the Steelers 97 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: keep saying we're not bottoming out. The Steelers have this 98 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: under five hundred phobia, which is remarkable because there's four 99 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: times evidence right in front of them. Think about this, 100 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: four division winners. I'm not talking just playoff teams. Four 101 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: division winners, Bears, Patriots. Jaggs Carolina lost twelve games last season. 102 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: This isn't the NBA where you're drafting eighteen and nineteen 103 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: year olds. They're not even mature enough, old enough. At 104 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the Hotel Bard, I've a cock tail. This isn't baseball 105 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: where there's nobody you can draft on a college that 106 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: comes into your Major League baseball team and changes outcomes. 107 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: This is the NFL, where it happens all the time. 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon, always talks about this that 109 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: people overestimate the downside to risk and failure. It's never 110 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: as bad as you think. Kyle Shanahan four times in 111 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco has been under five hundred. Think about that. 112 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Is he a failure four times? Would you rather be 113 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco or the Steelers since twenty seventeen. I don't 114 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: think it's close. For the record, the Texans bottomed out 115 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the next year. They had double digit wins. That's the 116 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: team that just beat you on Monday Night. And also 117 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: nine of the fourteen playoff quarterbacks are top ten picks. 118 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: You can get a Lamar Jackson, maybe you're lucky and 119 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers falls out of cow, but seventy percent of 120 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the playoff quarterbacks were top ten picks, meaning it's okay 121 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: to have a bad year. 122 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: It's not. 123 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: The NBA in baseball doesn't take years. NBA makes trading impossible. 124 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: The NFL encourages it. So the Steelers have convinced themselves 125 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: their house is charming. Yeah, maybe we'll fix just you know, 126 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: one of the guest rooms. It's like, no, you've got 127 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: turquoise tile in three bathrooms, in the kitchen. You see 128 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: your house as charming. A lot of other people see 129 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: it as outdated and weird. It's time to take a 130 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: swing Pittsburgh. They've fallen in love with the house. And 131 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the house isn't just a couple of screws there, a 132 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: cabinet shelf there, You've got turkoise tiles all over the place. 133 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Art Rooney on the Rebuild. 134 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 5: Standards, try to compete to win a championship every year. 135 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, well, you know, we're going 136 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,239 Speaker 3: to take a couple of years to figure. 137 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: This out and then well then we'll try to compete. 138 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: So I think you try every year. 139 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: I mean, and as I said, some years you have 140 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: the horses to really get there. 141 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: Some years you don't. But you try every year. 142 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got four examples this year. Division winning teams 143 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: that have twelve losses last year. This isn't basketball football, 144 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: it's not any other sport. It's the NFL. Go look 145 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: at the Houston Texans' recent history. Go look at the 146 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. It takes about one year to be bad. 147 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: That's about it. One year at six and eleven, you 148 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: compete your butt off, you lose some close games. Six 149 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: and eleven, you get the eighth pick. But if you 150 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: start looking we put it up for the TV audience 151 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: where they draft, you may look into Lamar Jackson, but 152 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: it's much easier to get that quarterback, or at least 153 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: the starting point top ten, eleven, twelve pick. Then you 154 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: don't have to give up the entire farm to get 155 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to four. So the Texans were three and thirteen, had 156 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the number two pick. 157 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: C J. 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: Stroud, Demiko Ryans. What do you know? Ten and seven? 159 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: It just I don't know what they're afraid of. It's 160 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: the under five hundred phobia. I don't get it. I 161 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: never have there's major evidence that one. Remember the Rams 162 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Then they thought were too expensive, 163 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: We're too old, We're gonna have two year rebuild. It 164 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't even take two years. I think there were five 165 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: and twelve one the next year they've been a playoff 166 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: team since. So the Rams and I had talked to 167 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: people in the building. They thought it was probably a 168 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: two year deal to get younger, less expensive, and rebuild 169 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: around Matt Stafford. It took a year, that's all it took. 170 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: They're a playoff team the next year. It happened. Since 171 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's around the corner. J Mack, I know you 172 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: don't love Big Blue, but John Harbaugh, this is a 173 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: job for a Harball Jim West John in New York. 174 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: It feels like it's gonna work. Get the right tackle, 175 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: you got the rush ends Burns and Abduall Carter, you 176 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: got the weapons and Scataboo and neighbors, and the left tackle, 177 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. Stay out of the blue tent. I'll call 178 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: it right now. Ten and seven. 179 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: Okay, So it's interesting. I just looked up their opponents 180 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: for next season. Are you ready for this time? We 181 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: don't have to schedule order. 182 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: But we have the opponents. Okay, all right, I know 183 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: you're terrified. Finally we can't get into it. Do I 184 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: get the Dallas Cowboys twice. 185 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: You do get the Cowboys twice, yes, and Washington as well, 186 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: But you have the AFC South Jacksonville, Houston, Indy, and Tennessee. 187 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: Two of those teams made the playoffs. 188 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: But then the tough one the NFC West Colin Rams, Niners, Seahawks, Cardinals. 189 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: They have two trips as of now to the. 190 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: West Coast at Seattle at the Rams, they also have 191 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: to go to Houston for the rest, and they have 192 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 5: to go to Detroit as well. 193 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: For the record, Stafford'll be thirty eight if he's the starter. 194 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: And the Rams almost lost to Carolina twice this year. 195 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 5: They did almost by the way, So eight of the 196 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 5: Giant seventeen opponents are playoff teams this year. 197 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: Half, what's a big deal. 198 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: That's a brutal schedule, my friend, Hi, I'll push back 199 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 5: against the ten wins, that's for sure. 200 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the schedule. People always go their schedules easy. Well, 201 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: couldn't I argue Brock Purty and the Niners have an 202 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: easy schedule. That's why successful. You st to have to 203 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: win the games. Well, New England's schedule is I don't know. 204 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: I watched them in a playoff game. You got to 205 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: win the games. I don't care how easier schedule. It's 206 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: not college football. There's not you know, a committee on 207 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: this stuff. San Francisco had an easier schedule. I watched 208 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: the Niners play this year when they lost all those 209 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: players to injuries. How easy was? It didn't look that 210 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: easy to me? And they were still banging on people. 211 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: So I think you got to win game everybody. Oh, 212 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: New England's schedule is. I watched them last weekend dominate 213 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: a playoff game against Jim Harbon Herbert. I think they're good. Oh, 214 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff. 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But I'm 233 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: like nervous for him. 234 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: It's Thursday. 235 00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: It just this game feels so big. Division rivals Shanahan 236 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald and with that, Tom Brady is going 237 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: to be there forty nine or Seahawks for Fox. This 238 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: is a I mean, this is honestly this game is 239 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel it like I It's Thursday and 240 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: I can feel it. What do you make Because I've 241 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: defended quarterbacks who throw picks. Stafford's had seven and seven games. 242 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: I've defended Andrew Luck for years. You were an outliner. 243 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: You didn't throw a lot of them. Purty does, Donald does? 244 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: How do you explain Donald's struggles with interceptions in mostly 245 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: big games? How do you explain it? 246 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 7: Well, it's certainly a problem, I think when you get 247 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 7: to these big moments in big games, whether that's you know, 248 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 7: certainly playoffs or some of these games have happened at 249 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 7: the end of the year determined whether going to get 250 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 7: in or not. The margin of there when you play 251 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 7: good teams is just very small, so that's where the 252 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 7: fundamentals come into play. You have to, you know, in 253 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 7: order to throw the ball accurate, okay, and if you 254 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 7: throw it accurately, make a decisions, you're not going to 255 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 7: a lot of interceptions. So, like you know, Aaron Rodgers 256 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 7: is a great example of that. If your mechanics are 257 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 7: a little off where you're not you know that accurate, 258 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 7: and you get late in the season, there's a little 259 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: wet conditions, a little windy conditions, you're playing against a 260 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 7: defense that's got a good rush and a good coverage scheme, 261 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 7: so you're a little unsure where you're throwing. That's where 262 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 7: all the problems come into play. So it's over time 263 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 7: you need to refine your techniques so that when you 264 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 7: get these big moments you're as accurate as you can 265 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 7: possibly be because you have the least margin of eric. 266 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 7: And then you need coaches that are stressing you in 267 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 7: practice all the time so that you learn to deal 268 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 7: with the stress emotion that you feel when you need 269 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 7: to perform at a high level. 270 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: So this is not a. 271 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 7: Game where you know, it's very hard to overcome turnovers 272 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 7: in the NFL. Last week I think was very much 273 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 7: an anomaly for the forty nine Ers. They lost the 274 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: turnover battle to the Eagles and still won the game. 275 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: The Eagles played very poorly. We covered that game. 276 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 7: The forty nine Ers are gonna have to play a 277 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 7: great game against Seattle. This defense is entirely different than 278 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: the ones that they've faced. And you saw what happened 279 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 7: in the Week eighteen game with the Niners and the Seahawks. 280 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 7: Niners just couldn't break any tackles. There wasn't much option 281 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 7: in the past game. I'm really interested to see how 282 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 7: coach Shanahan kind of devises a game plan that gives 283 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 7: his guys the best opportunity possible. The loss of kill 284 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 7: last week hurts, but everyone's been kind of writing the 285 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: Niners off all year. They've won i think eight of nine, 286 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 7: which is ridiculous considering all their injuries. But I'm really 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: excited to go up there and check this game out 288 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 7: in Seattle. It's going to be so loud, this place 289 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 7: is going to be rocking. This is going to be 290 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: one of the great games of the weekend. 291 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny they're going to go in as 292 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: an underdog. Tom, You did not go in as an 293 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: underdog very often. But I said earlier this week, I 294 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: can see Seattle, and this is what you went into 295 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: games knowing you were the better team and being cautious. 296 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: In fact, if you go look at your Super Bowl history, 297 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: not a lot of first quarter scoring. You had a 298 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: quarterback to advantage. You quarterback, you get a coaching advantage. 299 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: You often were at least as good, generally the better team. 300 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: So my take is, if I'm Seattle, my thing is 301 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Seattle's going to play kind of cautiously thinking we got 302 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the deeper, better roster. We're at home. How do the Niners? 303 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: And again, you weren't in this position a lot. They're 304 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: not as deep as Seattle, and they're on the road 305 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and they come out of a physically exhausting game against Philadelphia. Yeah, 306 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: when you were the rare underdog, does it change the 307 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: game plan, the mindset of how you attack it Early? 308 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: I think there's a part of the game where you 309 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 7: realize this is playoff football. There's nothing tomorrow that's guaranteed. 310 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 7: There's sixty to seventy plays left in this game. Look 311 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 7: with Seattle's defense, last time the Niners played them, they 312 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 7: had like less than fifty plays. I think it was 313 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 7: like forty three plays or something in the game. They 314 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 7: lost the time of possession almost two to one. So 315 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 7: it's really interesting to see this game because how challenging 316 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 7: it's going to be for these forty nine ers to 317 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 7: go in there as the underdog, coming off last week's 318 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 7: game and then still having to emotionally get up for 319 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 7: an environment that is really hostile to the opposing team. 320 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 7: The Niners can do it. They've been there before. They 321 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 7: played the Seahawks a lot. It's not like there's going 322 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: to be some intimidation. It's just do they have enough firepower? 323 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 7: Do they have enough Can they just find a way 324 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 7: through complimentary football? Through what they've done defensively? I thought 325 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 7: defensively last week they were just awesome. They played so hard. 326 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 7: They have such a great play style of the Niners defense. 327 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 7: They can play that way again and biden enough time. 328 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 7: The forty nine Ers have shown a little magic late 329 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 7: in the season that they can figure out how to 330 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 7: come back and win a lot of these games. 331 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: Even if it's really close. 332 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: I remember you and Peyton Manning both faced that great 333 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: Seattle defense. It got bad for Peyton really fast, but 334 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I do remember, I remember how you attacked it, and 335 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: you made sure when you're receivers caught the ball, move forward, 336 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: don't go sideline the sideline they'll strip the ball. And 337 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: I do feel Seattle has that because Witherspoon is so 338 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: aggressive and so strong. The way to beat I'm wondering 339 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: if the way to beat this Seattle is a little 340 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: like the way you beat them, which is guys five 341 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: yards four yards of the pap is fine, don't try 342 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: to get I mean, I think this Seattle defense looks 343 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: a little like the one you face, which is hyper aggressive, 344 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: seeking turnovers super fast. Do you see any similarities. 345 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 7: They close space as well as any defense inn we 346 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: as soon as the ball's caught, boom, there's guys on him. 347 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: There's linebacker's hitting you. Ernest Jones been phenomena. Reek Willens 348 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 7: got tremendous speed, he covers up so much wrong with 349 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 7: Thespoon's phenomena. Eve unworried that the rookie is insane. They've 350 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 7: got this kind of swarming defense wherever the ball goes. 351 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: It's like there's these like scud missiles that are just 352 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 7: flying in to hit the ball carrier. 353 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: It's it's a fascinating defense. 354 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: And then they got one the most underrated defensive lines 355 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 7: in the league. I think the interior defensive line is phenomenal. 356 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 7: They've got four edge guys they rotate in that are 357 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 7: all kind of unique. They have different traits. They really 358 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 7: challenge the tackles. There's a reason why they were the 359 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 7: top scoring defense in the league. They just have really 360 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 7: suffocated these offenses by taking the space and just making 361 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 7: the field feel like it's so much smaller. So they 362 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 7: haven't allowed like one hundred yard rusher in you know, 363 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 7: a season and a half or something like that. 364 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: It's been insane. 365 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 7: Their tackling is good, their pass defense is elite. Their 366 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 7: coverage schemes are really tricky for the quarterback. You need 367 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 7: a very kind of diversified set of weapons on offense 368 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 7: in order to move the ball. And they don't give 369 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 7: up a ton of big plays, so they're gonna have 370 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: to drive the ball down the field. The Niners are 371 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: going to have to keep it a low scoring game. 372 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 7: Look in the Week eighteen game, it was thirteen to 373 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 7: three at one point, and then the ball got intercepted 374 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 7: when Perty threw it to McCaffrey. 375 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: Ball got batted up in the air. Could have been 376 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: thirteen ten, could have been very tight. 377 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 7: Instead, one little mistake like that, one little batted ball 378 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 7: and the game is over. 379 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: So Matt Stafford Texas. Then he goes to Georgia. Then 380 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: he goes to a dome. Now he's in La It's 381 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: not exactly the harshest environments in his life. And there 382 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: he goes and I've told you this before. I thought 383 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: you were the best cold weather thrower I've ever seen 384 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: in my life. But Stafford's whole career has been domes 385 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: in warm weather. And it's so far and it Sunday 386 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: is supposed to be feel like minus nine for you, 387 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, Michigan, New England. But I remember, I've told 388 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: you before. I see pregame shots of guys you faced 389 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: in Foxboro and I'd be like, oh, Tom's won. It's 390 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: an hour before we get Tom's one. How do you psychologically? 391 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: How do you psychologically when the environment's not ideal? How 392 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: do you get out of that space and not think 393 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: about it and not let it affect you? 394 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question, Colin, and it's it's almost there. 395 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there could be a mental part to it. A 396 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: lot of it is. 397 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: There's a physical element to dealing with the cold. It's 398 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 7: not just mental toughness. It's also the team that has 399 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 7: the advantage is the one that practice is in it 400 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 7: all the time. And when we were in Foxboro, we 401 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 7: practice outdoor. We had like a nice indoor facility. We 402 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: used to look at it all the time and be like, man, 403 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 7: why don't we ever go in there? It's been a 404 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 7: nice actually maybe going and Bill would be like, we're outside, 405 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 7: you know, And it's just your body acclimated over the 406 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 7: course of a long season to you know, the warm 407 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: weather in the summer, as it dropped through the fall 408 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 7: and then into the winter, you had to deal with 409 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 7: twenty degree weather, fifteen degree weather with twenty mine on 410 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 7: hour winds, and over time you just learned how to 411 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 7: deal with I knew exactly how many layers of clothes 412 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: to put on per the temperature, and I was always going, Okay, 413 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 7: you don't want to be like Roufi from Toy Story, 414 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 7: where you got so much damn clothes on you can't 415 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 7: move the ball. So you've got to be still have 416 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 7: just enough layers on to keep you warm, but not 417 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 7: too much where you feel restricted in anyway. You know, 418 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: the big lineman they got so much insulation. You know, 419 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 7: they got a lot of body fat, so they're not 420 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 7: going to be the ones that are cold. But it's 421 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 7: kind of the skill players that have, you know, got 422 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 7: to use their hands and the gloves and all kind 423 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 7: of the fine motor skills you need in the really 424 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 7: cold weather. And Matt did play in Detroit for a 425 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 7: long time and in that division, you did go outside 426 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 7: to Chicago in Green Bay. It's not like he hasn't 427 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 7: played in it. But I will say when I went 428 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 7: to Tampa after my time in New England, it didn't 429 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 7: take me very long to get very soft to the 430 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 7: cold weather. 431 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: And we ended up going. 432 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 7: To Green Bay in the NFC Championship game my first 433 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 7: year and very fortunately the game wasn't that cold. It 434 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 7: was like thirty two thirty four degrees at kickoff, It 435 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: wasn't minus nine. That is really cold. And that's a 436 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 7: big advantage for Chicago because Chicago has played in these conditions. 437 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 7: Now for the last six weeks, it's been terrible weather 438 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: in the Midwest. They played against Cleveland in the freezing cold. 439 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 7: Caleb looked like it was just like he was playing 440 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 7: at the coliseum in LA. He's firing that ball over 441 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 7: the field and he's a really unique player. 442 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: They've got a. 443 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: Really unique team if there's a team that can figure 444 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 7: it out. And I love the Rams all year with 445 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 7: their kind of their diversification of what they do in offense, 446 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 7: tight ends, receivers, run game. Everyone touches it and that's 447 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 7: the moving target. Sean keeps everyone off balance. This is 448 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 7: going to be another terrific matchup. I'm so excited to 449 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 7: see the winner of this game. 450 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: Oh same here. So Josh Allen, you know you can do. 451 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: I remember an ELI team that went on the road 452 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: and kept winning road games. Burrow got to a super 453 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: Bowl with a bunch of road It's hard. So you know, 454 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo's already jammed up in the Northeast. Then they go 455 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: down to Florida, then their home. Now they go out 456 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: to Mile High and I'm thinking to myself, man's and 457 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: now Josh is not one hundred percent. They're down to 458 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: three active wide receivers. And then part of me thinks, oh, 459 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: that's that's what Superman needs Now's the phone booth? Go 460 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: to your career? Was there a game where you're down 461 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: two receivers, it's a second straight roadie, you mostly at homes, 462 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: and that you really felt, man, we are this thing 463 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: is holding on by a thread. I've got a slot 464 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: receiver from Boise State. I'm crossing my fingers. James Cook's 465 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: a ankle doesn't go. Did you ever have a moment 466 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: like that and what did it play into it emotionally 467 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: and physically how it turned out? 468 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Interesting. 469 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 7: We twenty thirteen, we had kind of a rash injuries 470 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 7: in that season. Gronk got injured, we were down. We 471 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 7: went to Denver in the championship game, we lost all 472 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 7: our backs. We brought in Stephen Jackson to play. It 473 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 7: was just a hard year, losing backs, losing tight ends, 474 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 7: kind of offensive line in and out. We're dealing with 475 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 7: rookie receivers on the road in the championship game, and 476 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 7: we still made it a game. 477 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: It was really close. 478 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 7: I mean, we really could have made some plays early 479 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 7: in the game to kind of give us a little momentum, 480 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 7: but because we didn't play very well early. I remember 481 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 7: I missed the pass to Julian across the field on 482 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 7: kind of that would It gave us a lot of moment. 483 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 7: You just get behind, and when you get behind and 484 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 7: you don't have all your weapons, it's really hard to 485 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 7: dig yourself out of a hole. Like even a Niner 486 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 7: game against the Eagles last week. The Niners have been 487 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 7: very you know, obviously so many injuries, they've been beaten 488 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: up all year long. They go into the Eagles and 489 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 7: they got off to a good start. They went down 490 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: the field and scored right away, and I was like, 491 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 7: Holy chow, this is awesome. You know, I wasn't expecting 492 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 7: that against that kind of great Eagles defense. But that 493 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 7: just injects a lot of life into, you know, the 494 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 7: visiting team, and it also deflates the crowd of the 495 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 7: home team because they're like, oh god, so right away 496 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 7: you shut them up. So that's what I think Buffalo 497 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 7: needs to do. I know they're depleted. Their pass game 498 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 7: has been a little volatile this year. They do have 499 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 7: an incredible run game, a very good run blocking offensive line, 500 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 7: and they've got a really challenging Broncos defense. They're going 501 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 7: against another defense that's very similar to Seat, a really 502 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 7: unique structure of defense, really well coached. They're always on 503 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 7: the details of nuances, and then you know, Josh has 504 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 7: got a great opportunity to you know, this is this 505 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 7: is the game for him. I mean, yeah, there's a 506 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: lot of career defining games for quarterbacks, and when you're 507 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 7: a veteran quarterback and you're not dealing with Patrick Mahomes anymore, 508 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 7: and that's been kind of a bit of a kryptonite 509 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 7: for the Bills over the years. They're looking at like, Okay, 510 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 7: this is this is the time for you know who. 511 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 7: They feel Josh one of the best quarterbacks in ac 512 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 7: to go out there and have his year. He won 513 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 7: the MVP last year. It's got a great chance to 514 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: go on the road. I know he's a little bit 515 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 7: under man, but you know that happens and Denver may 516 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: not have everybody. Denver could lose somebody in the first 517 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 7: quarter of the game. You don't know how it's going 518 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 7: to play out, but it's hard to it's hard to 519 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 7: not love the Buffalo Bills in this story. And you know, 520 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 7: I think it would be just incredible for their fan base, 521 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 7: who have been you know, so enthusiastic stick about this 522 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 7: team to finally get over the hump and then make 523 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 7: it to you know, a championship game. It's gonna be 524 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 7: a tough battle, but it's just again another great game. 525 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: You're former a dynasty, the Patriots and the Texans. I 526 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: think i'd feel better about it for Drake May if 527 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: it was year seven. Famously, you had talked to Jay 528 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Laser at one point it was in camp, and you said, 529 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, I think I've seen everything. I've got the 530 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: answers to the test. You don't have that Drake. Drake 531 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: May doesn't have the answers to all the test questions. 532 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: And Houston's defense, maybe it's not the Ray Lewis, Ravens, 533 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Tom you can turn the sound down. It just looks longer, faster, 534 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: and stronger that everybody in the league. It's it is 535 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: justin Herbert looked out overwhelmed. Do you worry that Drake 536 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: just hasn't faced anything close to this this year? 537 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: Well? It is interesting. 538 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 7: I think the Patriots, you know, they haven't had you know, 539 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 7: I would say when you look at their schedule of 540 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: the quality of competition hasn't been you know what some 541 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 7: other teams may have it Now, that doesn't matter because 542 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 7: that's not the Patriots' fault. You know, you play who's 543 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 7: on the schedule, and however those teams are playing. You know, 544 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: they line you up and you've got to go out 545 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 7: there and be who you're going to be. You're now 546 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 7: into the final eight. Who's the best eight teams in football? 547 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 7: They've earned it. The teams that got the buy had 548 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 7: the best seasons in their conferences. The teams the other 549 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 7: three teams that are playing per conference have already won 550 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 7: a playoff game. They're riding high on confidence. They feel like, hey, 551 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 7: we can hang with anybody. And I thought the Patriots 552 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 7: played awesome last week too, and the Patriots had had 553 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: a great game. I mean, this is going to be 554 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: you know, I'm not Drake is a really poised, composed kid. 555 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 7: The Patriot organization knows how to deal with these type 556 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 7: of atmospheres. The fan base they are Bi've been waiting 557 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 7: for this since I left. It's going to be rocking Foxborough. 558 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 7: It's a tough place to play, it's going to be cold, 559 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 7: but this defensive Houston is ridiculous and they could put. 560 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: A a lot of pressure on you. So I'm excited. 561 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 7: I'm excited about how what does Josh do to try 562 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: to keep some of the risk, you know, mitigated from 563 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 7: from what Drake's done this year. And Drake's played phenomenal 564 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 7: and he's throwing the ball so well, so accurate. 565 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: Downfield throws are awesome. 566 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 7: His escapability, his ability to move in the pocket, his 567 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 7: relatability with this teammate, there's so much to love about 568 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 7: him as a player. And that's why the Patriots are 569 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 7: in this position. So they they're very high expectations in Foxborough. 570 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 7: I mean they're not believe me, they don't think that. 571 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 7: You know, they're thinking one thing, that they're going to 572 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 7: go in there. 573 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: And kick some butt. But Houston's going to have a 574 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: lot to say about that too. 575 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: Finally, I remember, and I think it's hard because you 576 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: were so good to the very end. Two years after 577 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: you're retired, you would have still been a top six quarterback. 578 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Aaron I thought had a really good year all things 579 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: considered that he lost DK metcalf. The on line was 580 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: a work in progress, not a consistent run game, more 581 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: of a defensive culture. And I remember your retirement video. 582 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: It was emotional. You were on the beach, you were 583 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: sitting down by yourself, did you and so Aaron's in 584 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: that space. Now, did you have an epiphany? Was it 585 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: a drive around the block? Did you wake up? Was 586 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: it a dream? What got you to the I can 587 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: still play, I could still win a lot of games, 588 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: and I could still met the playoffs. I'm going to 589 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: call it a career. Do you remember the moment, because 590 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: I think Aaron could have a moment like that in 591 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: the next three weeks. 592 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. You know, my last season was tough. 593 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: I was going through I had a lot of you know, 594 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 7: just a personal you know, a family issue, and it 595 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 7: was a challenge and it was a very you know, 596 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 7: it just took a lot out of me in terms of, 597 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 7: you know, my ability to continue to play. 598 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: And I you know, it's. 599 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 7: I had twenty three years of it, so I didn't 600 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: feel like I was missing anything retiring. I felt like, okay, 601 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 7: this time, I always had a goal. Forty five was 602 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 7: forty five years old. I wanted to spend time with 603 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 7: my kids. I felt like, okay, you know, now it's 604 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: time for me to be at all my kids games. 605 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 7: You know, they've been enough to their dad of their 606 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 7: dad's games, and Aaron's got his own decisions. He's got 607 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 7: to make he doesn't have kids. You know, he's trying 608 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 7: to navigate what he wants to do post career. It's 609 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 7: hard to give up football too. It's something that we're 610 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 7: really good at. It's something you love to do. You 611 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 7: love being out there with your teammates. And I told 612 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 7: a friend the other day, when I got older, I 613 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 7: almost enjoyed practice more than playing, because playing it was 614 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 7: almost like it was a relief to win. And everyone 615 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 7: who's out there. I was like, what's another win going 616 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 7: to do for people? You know, it's never satisfying, even 617 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 7: for me, you know, sometimes winning and not winning like 618 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 7: you would expect. So I understood at that point, I 619 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 7: probably in my last season, like okay, this is this 620 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 7: is going to be my last time. I try to 621 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 7: put as much as I could into it. I felt 622 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 7: like I owed it to my teammates and coaches to 623 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 7: give them everything I had. I wish it could have 624 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 7: been a little bit better at the end, but it 625 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 7: was just a unique situation, a unique year from me. 626 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: And Aaron's got that too. 627 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: I mean, Aaron's got his own ways that he deals with, 628 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 7: you know, trying to find solutions, and you know, I 629 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 7: know it's it's he's done some different things in the past. 630 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's trying to. 631 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 7: Figure out because football is like a marathon the season. 632 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 7: Everyone loves to run the first four miles of the marathon, 633 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 7: and everyone loves to run the last two miles of 634 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 7: the marathon. But it's those middle it's those middle twenty 635 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 7: miles that are hard because kind of the shine wears 636 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 7: off after about a month, and now you've got to 637 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 7: dig deep into your preparation, into your you know, into 638 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 7: your body work, your treatments, you're you know, you've got 639 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 7: to dig deep at your team is over. Because it's 640 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 7: such a long season, you need to work really hard 641 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 7: over the course of the off season to kind of 642 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 7: callish your body for what it takes to be an 643 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: NFL player. So to me, it's do you want to 644 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 7: make the commitment year round because if you don't, well, 645 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 7: then it's never going to turn out well when the 646 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 7: season happens. In order to be a great NFL player, 647 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 7: you've got to commit and be foey in and that's 648 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 7: the only way your team's going to have a chance 649 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 7: to win, especially when you're starting quarterback. And only Aaron 650 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 7: can decide that for himself. 651 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Well, Niners at the Seahawks the Pacific Northwest. I mean, honestly, 652 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: it's just you can see the game, you can see 653 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: the environment. You've had a great year at Fox, and 654 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: the world will be watching my friend, great job today 655 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to watch. 656 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch. 657 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 7: I got the best team on the field, our team 658 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 7: at Fox, our whole crew. We love being up there, 659 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 7: we love working together, we love kind of bringing our 660 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 7: love of the game to the fans. And where you're 661 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 7: going to see us Sunday afternoon or Seasday, Saturday night. 662 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 7: It's gonna be awesome. I'm bringing my ear plugs. It's 663 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 7: going to be loud. That environment is so cool. I 664 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 7: mean my ears are still ringing from the last time 665 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 7: I played at that stadium, and it's going to be 666 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 7: rocking on Saturday night. 667 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: All right, Tom Brady seven trophies, great and Bud. 668 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: See you, Bud. I'll see you hopefully next week. 669 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: All Right, that was really good stuff. There's a ton 670 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: of good stuff there. Yeah, I mean, Aaron's now married. 671 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's a lot of different things 672 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: that go into play. I don't know, but it's Tom 673 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: at the end when he retired, was still a top 674 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: seven eight quarterback. That's it's one thing if you're falling apart. 675 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: But Brady didn't have a lot of injuries. You know, 676 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: you just make decisions and it's life happens. H Man 677 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: that that forty nine or Seahawk game, that is one 678 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: for the ages, wet. How lucky that we get last week. 679 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the games were credible in Chicago. 680 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: It's the hurd. 681 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 682 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: and newon Easter, not a em Pacific. 683 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: Obviously Saturday, it's Buffalo and Josh Allen at Denver. Think 684 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: about this, if Josh Allen was to win a Super Bowl, 685 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: listen to this journey. He would have beaten the Jags 686 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: on the road Jags number eight defense. He would then 687 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: have to beat Denver on the road cross country number 688 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: three defense. He could eventually face the Houston Texans on 689 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: the road number two defense, and then eventually could face 690 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks neutral site the number one defense. If 691 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: he wins, it is an all time list. This with 692 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver room that's down to three active players. 693 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is one of them. He arrived Week thirteen, 694 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Keon Coleman's another one. He appears to be a bust. 695 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: It'll be a slot receiver and cross your fingers. So 696 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: this journey is this is an all timer. 697 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 4: Now. 698 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: The good news is if you look at the quarterbacks remaining, 699 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent, but there's one old guy 700 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't move around and a lot of inexperience. Bow Knicks, 701 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Drake May, Sam Darnold doesn't have much of a rich 702 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: playoff history. Caleb Williams, brock Perty. It's pretty clear when 703 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: you look at that list, who's got the most firepower. 704 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: Here was bow Knicks this week on facing Josh Allen. 705 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 8: He's incredible. He's a you know, MVP of the league 706 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 8: for a reason. You know, he continues to make play 707 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 8: after play when sort of the game's not necessarily looking 708 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 8: like he can make the play. He just goes out 709 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 8: there and you know, does superhero stuff. 710 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: It's one of those things. 711 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 8: Where he can do it all at a at a 712 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 8: high level, and it's it's always been fun to watch. 713 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: You don't want to say now or never, but now 714 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: would be a good time because Mahomes is probably back 715 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: into it. Justin Herbert probably gonna have both his tackles. 716 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: Next year. Uh my guess is Joe Burrell or Lamar 717 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: or both will be back in it. It's not an 718 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: now or never, but I mean it's going to be 719 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: a big lift. It's a lot of the best defenses. 720 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: His wide receiver group is breaking down, and Josh is 721 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: probably eighty percent to this point. I was really surprised 722 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: by how they played at Jacksonville. I really was. I thought. 723 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean I watched Jacksonville play parts of every game 724 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: and three to four full games, and I thought they 725 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: were more consistent they were at home. Trevor Lawrence wasn't 726 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: making mistakes. Emmanuel Sanders, a former teammate of Josh Allen, 727 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: talked about him yesterday to close our show out. 728 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 9: He's six foot five and just just a machine and 729 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 9: then just a rocket of a arm. He was one 730 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 9: of the best teammates that I had. I truly enjoyed 731 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 9: being around and it was always light energy, like always 732 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 9: having fun. 733 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, when we get in the game, he would turn 734 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 4: it on, but it was always. 735 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 9: Fun to go out and compete with him because you 736 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 9: know that he was gonna give it as all. And 737 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 9: that's why I always respected Josh and you know the 738 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 9: success that he's having, it's no surprise because he wants it, 739 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 9: and I know how bad he wants that Super Bowl two. 740 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Emmanuel talked about but you know, you tend 741 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: to think players make the coaches. But Emmanuel said, really, 742 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: the coaches largely make the players. Now, I think that 743 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: is to a degree true. I think Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, 744 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: Reggie White, Calvin Johnson, Josh Allen would win anywhere in 745 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: professional football. Now Wyoming, he didn't win, but he didn't 746 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: have you know, he wasn't as good as he is now. Obviously, 747 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: there are a handful of players who aren't really reliant 748 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: on systems or coaches to be successful. Now, you may 749 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: not hoist a trophy without the great coach, the Jimmy Johnson, 750 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, without the without the Belichick, the Andy Reid. 751 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: But Josh is one of those players that kind of 752 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: falls into a Lawrence Taylor, Calvin Johnson, Aaron Donald, Reggie White. 753 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't really matter where you put him. 754 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter you give offensive co defensive coach, less 755 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: than stellar coordinator. They're just different. He is just different. 756 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: By the way, Brady was one of those. He won 757 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: with Charlie Weiss. He won in Tampa with Bruce arians 758 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, he went with Josh McDaniel. Some guys are 759 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: just going to succeed, but to get to the trophy room, 760 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: that's generally when you really need somebody to accompany you, 761 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: a kingmaker at some level. But if you look at 762 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: the potential journey for Josh Jags Defense, Denver Defense, Texans Defense, 763 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: Seahawks defense three neutral or three road one neutral, that 764 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: is a lift