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Speaker 2: and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: And that's a wrap on the twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks. My Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 3: Hit them up ats Rolling Dome. You can find me

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Speaker 3: at Dan Byer on Fox. Ian Roddy is our executive producer.

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Speaker 3: Find him at Ian Roddy Underscore and Mike the season

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Speaker 3: is done, a bow is on it and another Lombardi

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Speaker 3: Trophy is in the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 1: There you go. You got to win. To sit live

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Speaker 3: I told Ian actually in a conversation before this podcast,

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Speaker 3: Where the Seahawks would have had an advantage. They definitely

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Speaker 3: And I can understand why, for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 3: But there was no doubt that the Seahawks fans outnumbered

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Speaker 1: Well, a little bit of fatigue for your wallet too,

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Speaker 3: And I thought about this when the Seahawks beat the Broncos, Like,

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Speaker 3: prior coming in with his shoulder injury against one of

436
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Speaker 3: the better defenses we've seen in a while in the NFL,

437
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: and we're just kind of passing it off as just

438
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: it's it was an interesting non story almost last week.

439
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the last thing for me on this one, guys,

440
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: is it's also two teams. There's not a lot of

441
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: guys that give you good soundbites, no disrespect. I mean,

442
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: they're they're going and playing football, right, Cooper Cup. Occasionally

443
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: we'll say something and and we'll see as as guys

444
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: get a little loose at the parade and the post

445
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: victory run of late night TV and whatever, whether there's

446
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Speaker 1: something else to say. I mean, the most controversial thing

447
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: you've gotten is the post, Like, yeah, the offensive lineman

448
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: had a bit of a tell that coach McDonald clued

449
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: us in on. Oh, but during the two weeks it's

450
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: not like they're doing WWE promo shoots and how many

451
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: questions do you I mean, if you're a reporter, right

452
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: and you're trying to go through your time and you're

453
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Speaker 1: not a beat writer in Seattle, you're not a beat

454
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Speaker 1: writer in the greater Boston area or you know one

455
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Speaker 1: of these markets where that's your job to go find

456
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Speaker 1: the quote. Are you sitting in traffic for an hour

457
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: and a half to get the latest? Hey, what's Sam

458
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: Donald been like coating quarterback? And what do you think

459
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: of his journey? I mean asked and answered.

460
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Speaker 3: Right, sure, absolutely, it was. It was quiet throughout the week.

461
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: I know the Sioux are doing a lot of talking

462
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: now and I listen. Ernest Jones stood up for Sam

463
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Speaker 3: Donald during the middle of the season, and I felt

464
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: like he was talking to me. But I'm sorry. The

465
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: criticism for Sam Donald at the time was legit. He

466
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: did end up leading the NFL in turnovers this past season,

467
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Speaker 3: but he never turned it over in the playoffs, and

468
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: it's why they're Super Bowl champions. So it's not that

469
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Speaker 3: it's not that you didn't believe in Sam Donald.

470
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Speaker 4: It's just it was what it was.

471
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Speaker 3: So when you're talking about a team that again, when

472
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Speaker 3: you look at their three losses this year. And I

473
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Speaker 3: know we've talked about this on the pod, but they

474
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Speaker 3: lost in Week one when they were inside the ten

475
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: yard line against the forty nine ers and the forty

476
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: nine ers ended up scoring on a crazy play when

477
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Speaker 3: Kittle was out.

478
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: They lose on the.

479
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Speaker 3: Deflection of a Donald pass off a helmet and the

480
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: Buccaneers end up in Seahawks territory and can kick the

481
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 3: game winning field goal because of the interception, and then

482
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: Jason Myers missed a sixty one yard field goal in

483
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: LA that would have beaten the Rams. Like those are

484
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: the three losses by those margins, and so they're a

485
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: really really good team, but turning the football over and

486
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: specifically in this game was going to cost you, and

487
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: that's why it was a topic. So any Sam Donald

488
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: criticism that he got, I think was warranted because of

489
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Speaker 3: who he was. So it's not disrespect and and I

490
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: love Artist Jones. He's amazing and he's the difference maker

491
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: on that defense. But I just think that the criticism

492
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: of Sam Donald was always fair. I don't think it

493
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Speaker 3: was out of bounds at any point.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, he was your guy and ian and he

495
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the love. He still gets from

496
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: Jets fans when he was sitting there eating raising canes.

497
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Speaker 5: On Jason Smith.

498
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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, what stood out to you ian from

499
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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 5: For me, it was just the vindication that the Patriots

501
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: didn't belong there. I feel like we've been talking about

502
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Speaker 5: it in the week and two weeks leading up to

503
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Speaker 5: the game. It just felt like they weren't there. They

504
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 5: had the or they didn't belong there. They had the

505
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: easiest pat They got to beat the Texans with CJ.

506
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 5: Stroud giving them the ball four times. They had the

507
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 5: Chargers without an offensive line, they had the Broncos without Bonnicks.

508
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 5: So to see them then have to face an actual

509
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 5: legit team for the first time these playoffs and they

510
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 5: showed like they got blown out. They did not belong there.

511
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Speaker 5: So it was just the vindication uh there. And then

512
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 5: also Will Campbell, the Patriots left tackle. You guys alluded

513
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Speaker 5: to it. They you know, announced that he had that

514
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: ligament tear. I don't know if I buy that because

515
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 5: he wasn't on the injury report beforehand. Their backup left

516
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: tackle is pretty serviceable, so if they really felt like

517
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 5: it was going to hinder his ability, they could have

518
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Speaker 5: just put him in. At the end of the day,

519
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 5: this is the guy you took in the top five

520
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: of the draft, and he was a main reason that

521
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Speaker 5: you lost the game and struggled mightily in the game,

522
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Speaker 5: which is just such an issue to me, glaring Yeah,

523
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Speaker 5: especially because armand Membu and Kelvin Banks were taken after

524
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: him in the draft at the exact same position. So

525
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 5: you got guys at the same position who look like

526
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: they could be all pros, and then meanwhile, this guy

527
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: is losing you to the Super Bowl.

528
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Speaker 4: I think.

529
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Speaker 3: I think that's a great point too, And I also

530
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: think it's in contrast with what the Seahawks did. So

531
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Speaker 3: part of the conversation about Campbell was can he play

532
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: left tackles? Is he better suited for guard? So the

533
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: Seahawks first round picks Gray's Abel, who was going to

534
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Speaker 3: play guard from day one, who was gonna be their

535
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Speaker 3: left guard. So on the other sidelines, you have a

536
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Speaker 3: running game that runs for one hundred yards and the

537
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Speaker 3: running backs of the MVP, And then on the other

538
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: there was also a first round pick for an offensive lineman,

539
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: and then on the other sidelines, it's completely in contrast.

540
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Speaker 4: I hope it works out for Will Campbell, I.

541
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Speaker 5: Do too, And this is me, like, I don't like

542
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 5: the Patriots, and I'm sure, yeah coming across on the

543
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: pod and has come.

544
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Speaker 1: Across, that's okay.

545
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Speaker 5: But it's like I still want him to succeed, like

546
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: you said, like he's a kid, and I want him

547
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Speaker 5: to find his place in this league.

548
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Speaker 4: I just I think it's probably guard after them.

549
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the injury report stuff does him no favors? Yes, Like,

550
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: it's just it comes off as weak. And he refused

551
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: to talk to reporters after that. No, right, right, so

552
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath, he doesn't talk to reporters. All right,

553
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: bad young guy. Mistake, team error because that's the other part, right,

554
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: just going back to what you said, and he's being dominated.

555
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: They count fourteen. I had other people that were claiming

556
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: it was seventeen pressures somewhere in between the truth lies.

557
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: But you did nothing to help him, You're Josh McDaniels, right,

558
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: And going in through the two weeks, that was one

559
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: of the big talking points of all right, can the

560
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Patriots pull this off? Now it's only a four and

561
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: a half point spread, but you're looking at it going

562
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: from every every angle, It's like, Wow, there's just overmatched

563
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: and overrun and whatever. But here's the betting line, and

564
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: here's the one edge is verybele played in these games.

565
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: He's coached big games, and Josh McDaniels is there for

566
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: the one hundred and fifty eighth time, and then you

567
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: watch them get worked and there was no solution, no

568
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: opportunity to either spell him change things up. Now you

569
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: might have just had a leak on the other side, right,

570
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: it's like plugging plugging a leak in your in your bathroom,

571
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: a pipe issue or a boat. All right, Yeah, the

572
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: pressure comes over here and now we spring another leak

573
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: and Witherspoon's just popping free on the other side or

574
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: somebody else's. But you know, the lack of in game

575
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: adjustment ridiculous. But I have to last questions game wise? Okay,

576
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Speaker 1: number one, Dan, did you talk during the week more

577
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: about Yannis manipulating the Calshi market about his trade or

578
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl?

579
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Speaker 3: Well, the because the deadline was on Thursday and then

580
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: the CALCI didn't come up until.

581
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Speaker 4: What Friday, Friday after Yeah, So yeah.

582
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Speaker 3: So for as much as I would like to build

583
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: the drama, we didn't get to the Janis Yannis Calshy

584
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: angle as much as you would have thought.

585
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Speaker 1: All right, So the second part of it is the

586
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: longest off season isn't necessarily the Patriots, right, they realized

587
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: the road's going to be harder. I think they went

588
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and beat you beat who's on the schedule. Right. It's

589
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: not their fault that they beat eleven teams that fired

590
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: their coaches, plus the Jets, and that guys got hurt

591
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: on their path, right. Defense still had to go do

592
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: the job. But the longest offseason is Sean Payton forever

593
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: wondering if if he'd kicked that field goal, what do

594
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Speaker 1: you have been prepping for two weeks you've gotten you know,

595
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Speaker 1: bo Nick's back.

596
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you at least Jared s Didnat would have

597
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Speaker 3: had a healthy shoulder if he was playing in the.

598
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Speaker 1: Game, and two weeks to prepare and everything else to

599
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: be ready for the the body shots.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you guys my quick takeaway. And it's on

601
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Speaker 3: the Seattle side. And I don't think we realize the

602
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: value of the Cooper Cup signing until now, And when

603
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: you look at it's one of those deals and it's

604
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: a conversation that we had throughout the year on how

605
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: much JSN was dominating the target share and how there

606
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: was no one else And in fact, the Seahawks go

607
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: out and get Rashid Shaheed prior to the trade deadline

608
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: to try to add that dynamic player, and that worked

609
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: out great for them considering the special team's return and

610
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Speaker 3: what he did against the forty nine Ers, had the

611
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: big catch against the Rams to open the game.

612
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Speaker 4: They're just a being a threat. There was value.

613
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Speaker 3: But when you see what Cooper Cup went through in

614
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Speaker 3: the last twelve months, Rams basically saying we don't want

615
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: you here. He's even admitted that the departure wasn't is clean.

616
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Speaker 3: Not only did the Seahawks give him not only a

617
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Speaker 3: one year deal, but they gave him a three year

618
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: deal in signing and it's worth every penny. Now how

619
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Speaker 3: long the future he's going to have in Seattle, who knows.

620
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Speaker 3: But when JSN goes out with a concussion, in a

621
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Speaker 3: concussion evaluation in the Super Bowl, you're throwing a cup.

622
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: You're throwing a cup on the key plays against the Rams,

623
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: the first drive, the big catch on the sidelines, he

624
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: ends up leading them into receiving like the Cooper Cup

625
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: signing took twenty weeks to come to fruition. But when

626
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: you needed it most, there wasn't anybody that Sam Donald

627
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: trusted more than Cooper Cup. And I think that that is,

628
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: you know, quite a testament to him. We see the

629
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Speaker 3: videos of him in JSN on the sideline and then hugging,

630
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: and how much having Cooper Cup just on that team

631
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: for a year helped JSN. So the value of Cooper

632
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Cup I just think skyrocketed in this postseason for Seattle.

633
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he becomes the stuff of legend. And now he's

634
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: got that twice. Right, you got a Super Bowl MVP

635
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: in your pocket, and you come up big here when needed.

636
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned Shahid did be remiss, you know, Sam Donald. Look,

637
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: he didn't dominate the scorecard, he didn't need to, right,

638
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: and had a couple of near misses Gonzales for all.

639
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, even if they lose, if they lose,

640
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: close his Gonzales the MVP. So because this didn't become

641
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: a blowout. But but Shaheed's just the mere presence of

642
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: having a guy that can do that to a defense,

643
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: even if you never actually complete the pass. Just keep

644
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: him honest. A couple of dimes downfield, is so valuable

645
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: and it opens up so much more. I mean, I

646
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: felt bad for JSN that coming in not only the

647
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: stupid ass Drew Ski thing, you know, on the the

648
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Honors Award, which is just unconscionable and ridiculous, and yet

649
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I still saw his ass on my TV repeatedly. I

650
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: don't even think he's funny, but that's that's besides the

651
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: point is is that you know, he ends up missing

652
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: this big moment because he's in the tent and dealing

653
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: with myriad injuries. So I felt bad in that moment

654
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: because it was his year to really come out in

655
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: a big way. But to have a guy like Cooper

656
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Cup there that everybody just speaks the world of And

657
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: to your point about the the you know, acrimony with

658
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: the Rams that allegedly they were saying that he should

659
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: retire and he's done. Sure, so to have another super Bowl, well,

660
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: to walk away with this, it's huge.

661
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: It's also a super Bowl that isn't just oh well

662
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: he got a ring late, like he had value Like

663
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: there's like so he earned every diamond that's going to

664
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Speaker 3: be in that ring.

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00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: All right, we're going to wrap up.

666
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: I want your flex super Bowl addition with the talk

667
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: of the commercials in the halftime show, plus we'll tell

668
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: you what's ahead for the podcast next here and I

669
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: want your flex.

670
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Speaker 4: All right, let's wrap this up. I will say this.

671
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: When watching some of the commercials, I don't know if

672
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: it aired a couple of days before. Commercials don't seem

673
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: to be the big thing anymore, even though they're they're

674
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: very popular. Being at the game, you don't get to

675
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: see a lot of them. But that Instacart commercial with

676
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Ben Stiller makes me laugh every single time. I don't

677
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: know if it was playing leading up to the super Bowl,

678
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: but the Insta cart and the bananas and him taking

679
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: the leap, that that is hilarious. I don't know if

680
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: there were any other commercials that resonated with anything, but

681
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've watched that commercial about ten times,

682
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: and whatever it is, whenever Ben Stiller gets into that

683
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: certain character, the of it, it's it is funny to me.

684
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: And that's my media takeaway because I can't really have

685
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: a bad Bunny takeaway because the performance isn't for the

686
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: people at the game, it's for the people watching at home.

687
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: So that was my That was my commercial slash halftime

688
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: takeaway that I still laugh at that Ben Stiller Instacart commercial.

689
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: The Ben Stiller half Zoolander half Dodgeball, Yes, kind of

690
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: thing going on exactly merging those characters with Benson Boone. Look,

691
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: I love the Dunkin commercial. Just you just grab all

692
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: of my childhood and stuff that I still find the

693
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure watching after all these years. Throwing Aniston, throwing

694
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Speaker 1: Tom bradyum there, So that one got a good w

695
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: The Jurassic part, like a bunch of them had been

696
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: showing up for a week or so, right, So like

697
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park, all the the aging of guys is

698
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: creepy though, Like even in that Duncan commercial, Like that's

699
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: a weird thing. Can they do it for me in

700
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: when we do live videos? Can can we do that?

701
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: And and I was a cuter guy with more hair

702
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: back in the day.

703
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: And I'm about a quarter in to the Super Bowl.

704
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: So I saw I saw the State Farm one with

705
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: with uh Hayley Steifeld, yes and the Danny McBride and uh.

706
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cat's Eye and everything else.

707
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so h in Key from Key and Peele.

708
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So I saw I saw that one. But

709
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: I did not see the Duncan and I did not

710
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: see uh I haven't seen.

711
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: The Jurassic Yeah, that one didn't come until late Okay,

712
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: so you'll you'll see that. I want to say, that's

713
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: third quarter or thereabouts.

714
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

715
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where whatever I was watching the week before

716
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: suddenly started showing up a bunch as to your the

717
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: bad Bunny like that was the one thing that I

718
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: came away with. And look, I've been I guess exposed

719
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: to the music, right because you got a lot of

720
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: the artists these days, the collapse of featuring this guy

721
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: the other guy, and you realize, okay, yeah he was

722
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: on this track or that track that my kids have played,

723
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: so a bunch of that. Look, it's not for me.

724
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: It's as we talk about all the time, right, you're

725
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: trying to build the audience. The people that were gonna

726
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: watch football were showing up, whether they turned the channel

727
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: for five minutes or something during the break. I guess

728
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: they figure out based on the TV sets that still

729
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: have ratings box in this day and age. But it

730
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: just felt like it was completely a for TV for

731
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: digital performance, right, because that was gonna be one of

732
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: my questions to you, Dan, was like there any juice

733
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: after he showed up in that in the stadium.

734
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: And it was the same thing last year with Kendrick Lamar,

735
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: like the reach of Kendrick Lamar. When you were there

736
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: and watching it, you didn't understand how everything was going

737
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: and the dance moves that plays out just because it's

738
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field and everything is so

739
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: it's congested, you know in a way. I mean basically

740
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: the set for any set that they do is basically

741
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: between the two thirty yard lines, if you will, and

742
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: so you're you're far away and the artists are moving

743
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: just so you're just like the boombox. It's so far right,

744
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: you know, fifty cents on one side, here comes M

745
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: and M on another and doctor dre and and Snoop

746
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: are you know, moving back and forth and up and down.

747
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: But still like it's in this confined area, so you

748
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: don't get to see it. The audio isn't as good

749
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: as it would be from your TV. They show it

750
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: on the big screen, but not the entire performance on

751
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: the big screen, so you just don't have a sense

752
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: of what is happening. And yeah, people aren't into it

753
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: because the audio is it's not as good as it

754
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: would be from your TV. So it's a weird experience.

755
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 3: So the people at the game really have no reason

756
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: to judge. You have to watch it yourself to be

757
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: able to judge.

758
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: It Ian what you think I'm I'm also just not

759
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: I don't listen to a ton of bad money. So

760
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: the music itself, like I wasn't like familiar with a

761
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: lot of it, but just production value wise, watching it

762
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: from home, which again, like you said, Dan, like that's

763
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: who it was meant for, I thought it was great. Like,

764
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: I thought it was really entertaining to watch, especially for

765
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: something that I didn't I don't really know the music,

766
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: the fact that I enjoyed the performance it was it

767
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: was pretty good, and I was just here in studio,

768
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Speaker 5: you know, just pulling biot from the game. And same

769
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: with the ads, like so I wasn't totally like plugged

770
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 5: in entirely for those, but I do remember there was

771
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: like a crypto ad that I've been seeing a ton

772
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: of videos on social media for where it was this

773
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: universal experience of everyone's singing along. It was lyrics on

774
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: screen like everybody if you know that, Yeah, and then

775
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 5: at the end it just goes like coin flip dot

776
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: com or something and just everyone just starts flipping off

777
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: the screen because they didn't realize it was a crypto

778
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: ad until the very end. And apparently that was a

779
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: universal experience for people watching at home.

780
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: Oh man, well, uh, that's a. That's a.

781
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 3: It's a good way to wrap up the season because

782
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: I think a lot of NFL fans would like to

783
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: give the finger to the to the NFL, but it's.

784
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: It's over, it's done for their teams.

785
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: Eight Jets fans would I'm not making any political statements.

786
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: I'm just saying most most fans are mad at their

787
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: team for not doing better than than they would have hoped.

788
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what this is A.

789
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: This is a when your team wins, there is there

790
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: are certain advantages to it that you don't realize, and

791
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: one of them is this. And I realized it when

792
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: I looked at my ESPN app and I go to

793
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: the scores, and the Seahawks are my favorite team. So now, guys,

794
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: basically until the new schedule comes out in May, the

795
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: Super Bowl sixty score will be on my ESPN app

796
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: saying Seahawks twenty nine, Patriots thirteen. So I will always

797
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: get a re mind ner case you forgot, Yes, yes

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00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: that they want a lot of times when your team loses,

799
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: it's the loss that sticks up there, right, You're like,

800
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: oh great, they.

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00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: That's even more rewarding. As you know, Patriots fans have

802
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: the opposite experience on the top of their rafts.

803
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: Yes, So while I've known that the Brewers play spring

804
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: training against the Guardians on February twenty first, because of

805
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: my favorite my favorite teams and the Bucks are taking

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Speaker 3: on the magic as we record this on Wednesday, February eleventh,

807
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: when I look at the favorite teams on top Seahawks

808
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: twenty nine, Patriots thirteen, that will that will be there

809
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: for me for the next hopefully the next couple of months.

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00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Nicely done. See there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, we've got a lot more coming to you

812
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 3: on I want your flex from Mike Carmenie and Roddy

813
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: and myself Dan Byer. We will have our top sixty draft.

814
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: We'll also take a look back and a look ahead

815
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: to what was the season and what is the next season.

816
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: In the NFL free agency draft, talk, new league year,

817
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: franchised tags, we expect trades, all of that we'll be

818
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: having upcoming episodes, but we will do our top sixty

819
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: draft in the near future and we'll get you through

820
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: February and then get your set for the NFL in

821
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.

822
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Speaker 4: So guys, that's a wrap four.

823
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Speaker 3: Uh. I guess this version our super Bowl version of

824
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: the I Want Your Flex podcast and the offseason is here, scary,

825
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: scary and just sorry, just to.

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Speaker 4: Put a cap on it.

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Speaker 5: What would be your way, way way too early super

828
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Speaker 5: Bowl champion for next year? M sorry to put you

829
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 5: both on the spot like that.

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Speaker 4: I'll that's okay because I've thought about this.

831
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Speaker 5: I can start if need be, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I like the Chargers that I love the Chargers. They

833
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: were injured this year.

834
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Speaker 5: At the beginning of the year, they look like maybe

835
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 5: the best team in the league, and then they obviously

836
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 5: got hit with those offensive line injuries. If they just

837
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 5: take a really good interior offensive lineman in the draft

838
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: this year and then they have Joe Alt and Rashaun

839
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: Slater coming back with Omari and Hampton in that running game,

840
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: I I don't know how anyone stops them next year

841
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 5: minus injuries.

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Speaker 1: How would you feel if Adam Gase wins the Super Bowl?

843
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: Oh god? I forgot about Adam Gase. You know, I

844
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: might just need to I might need to retract me

845
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: totally forgot Adam Gaze.

846
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna win.

847
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: I have such a Seahawks sort of feel, and I

848
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: think the team that's like the Seahawks the most in

849
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: the NFL of the Houston Texans. So I'll say the Texans,

850
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: all right, I'll say that, Yeah, give them a running game.

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00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud can turn it around. Yeah, I'll give me the Texans.

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00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: I say, the the re emergence of the Chiefs. It's

854
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: it's boring to a degree, but it requires a lot

855
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: of well, but it requires a lot of retooling. And

856
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: as we stand here today, there about the twelfth favorite

857
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks at the top plus seven fifty. Rams right behind

858
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: you still have the Ravens and Bills. Do you trust

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Speaker 1: either of those teams? I mean, I love Lamar, I

860
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: love you Allen, but really the Packers at plus thirteen hundred,

861
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: then you're Chargers with the Eagles at plus fifteen hundred,

862
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: the Lions, and that's when we get to the Chiefs

863
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: as sixteen to one, okay, just ahead of the Patriots. Sure,

864
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: and the Patriots still there even though the schedule will

865
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: be much harder. I guess they're just looking that the

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins are in the division.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Mahomes doesn't play the start of the season and

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Speaker 3: its name fresher towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: Coming back from that acl tair, we shall see, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a look at Super Bowl sixty and a

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Speaker 3: preview of Super Bowl sixty one. Nice So for Mike

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Speaker 3: Carmenani and Roddy. I'm Dan Byer. We appreciate you listening.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to talk to you next time. Here on

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Speaker 3: I want your FLEs