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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hero Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you are

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Speaker 1: having a great week so far, for whatever reason it

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Speaker 1: may be, because it certainly is not watching the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Braves play baseball right now. My name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at Stat's Sac on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: as always, I'm joined by my podcast partner, Steven Tolbert.

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Speaker 1: And Steven, I've said it a variety of different ways

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Speaker 1: throughout this season, but I did not think that I

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Speaker 1: would say it this year. It just never really entered

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Speaker 1: my mind until we've seen this stretch of play over

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Speaker 1: the past few months. Steven Tobert, it's just not fun

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Speaker 1: to watch the Atlanta Braves play baseball right now. I

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Speaker 1: know it's probably not fun for them to be playing

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Speaker 1: at the level that they're playing right now. But good

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Speaker 1: to talk with you as always.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Sean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that was that we just

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Speaker 3: watched for the last four games or five games I

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Speaker 3: guess of this homestand that was as bad of baseball

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Speaker 3: as the Braves have played probably since the rebuilding years.

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Speaker 3: You know, they lost their last four games by thirty runs,

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Speaker 3: which is like impossible to do, Like losing four games

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Speaker 3: by negative thirty runs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's.

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Speaker 3: That's just some awful baseball, getting your ass kicked up

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Speaker 3: and down the field in every facet of the game.

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Speaker 3: The Brewers just annihilated the break. It was one of

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Speaker 3: the most disheartening series I think I can ever remember watching.

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Speaker 3: It just never felt it just never felt like the

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Speaker 3: Braves were even in a game. And you know, it's

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Speaker 3: for the first time really all year, in this stretch

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Speaker 3: of games, these last five games, this five game losing streak,

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Speaker 3: like the Braves not making the playoffs is a very real,

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Speaker 3: very real possibility, and is quickly moving into the more

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Speaker 3: probable outcome. It's it's not there yet, but we are

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Speaker 3: very rapidly moving into a world where the Braves not

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Speaker 3: making the playoffs is as likely or more likely than

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Speaker 3: the Braves do make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And just that alone, the.

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Speaker 3: Reality of that alone, the number of things that have

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Speaker 3: had to happen for that to be where we are

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Speaker 3: today is pretty insane. And yeah, we're gonna get you know,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get into a little bit more tonight. But

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Speaker 3: it's this has been one of the most frustrating relati

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Speaker 3: to expectations.

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Speaker 2: This has been one of.

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Speaker 3: The most frustrating stretches of Braves baseball that I can

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Speaker 3: remember in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you were to look at this series, if

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Speaker 1: you were to, you know, go and look up obscure

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Speaker 1: stats over a three game series in terms of a

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Speaker 1: negative sense, like the amount of runs that the Braves

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Speaker 1: were beaten by total through the past four or five games,

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Speaker 1: the amount of hits they've given up. You know, this

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Speaker 1: is the first time that they've had this bad of

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Speaker 1: a stretch of play in terms of how bad they've

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Speaker 1: You know, like I say, it's been years since we've

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Speaker 1: seen the Braves play this badly. And that leads me

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Speaker 1: to another point Stephen, that I think is also kind

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Speaker 1: fact that ever since late April, I believe this team

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Speaker 1: now is five games under five hundred. So yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: still quote unquote in the playoff mix, and yes, they're

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Speaker 1: definitely still in the race. But my point is is

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Speaker 1: that the offense has not been at a level of

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Speaker 1: a playoff team for nearly three going on four months.

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Speaker 1: But now the pitching because of injury, because you know

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Speaker 1: what have you. Will get more specific into the pitching

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Speaker 1: just a moment, But the main point that I'm getting

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Speaker 1: playoff team. So when you look at it from that perspective, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's very surprising they're not in the playoff picture. But

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Speaker 1: then when you look at the results over the past

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've played nineteen games in the second

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Speaker 3: half and they're seven and twelve. You know, they've they've

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Speaker 3: but yeah, in the second half, they've given up the

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Speaker 3: third or fourth most runs in baseball, and then on

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Speaker 3: in Game two of the series. Like, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was just an ass kicking, I mean,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, really the entire second half.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the Braves, they had that one

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Speaker 3: other than that, they've got a six game losing streak

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Speaker 3: And that's brutal. That's just brutal, and it's every facet

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Speaker 3: second or third inning. We've had multiple of those in

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Speaker 3: the last few weeks. It's just brutal, and it does

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Speaker 3: remind me of watching the Rebuilding years a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously this team is much better than those teams,

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Speaker 3: but you know, there's just so many games where you'd

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Speaker 3: first you know, the first inning, you'd be like, all right,

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Speaker 3: that's enough of that for tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll try again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And I've done that more than once over the last

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Speaker 3: it off. I was I'm not doing this for two

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Speaker 3: no other word for I I don't really have. I

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Speaker 3: could get at the source, at the source out and

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Speaker 3: give you some better definitions.

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Speaker 2: And better words for it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just brutal baseball and all the way around,

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Speaker 3: top to bottom. I mean just a I mean, Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: just skull dragged the Braves for three games, and that

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Speaker 1: So stephen all year long. Well, you know, at the

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Speaker 1: very least since late April. What has been the defining

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Speaker 1: characteristic of why this Braves team has remained in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs at least up to this point is that our pitching,

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Speaker 1: which had the best our Era in baseball in the

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Speaker 1: first half of the season, our pitching basically carried the

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Speaker 1: team while the offense struggled mightily. Well, now, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the pitching has regressed. We've seen a bit of regression,

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Speaker 1: you know, from some you know, such as Renaldo Lopez

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Speaker 1: especially you know earlier today against the Brewers. But the

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Speaker 1: other thing that stands out that's different from the past

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Speaker 1: is that the Braves have made it very clear throughout

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Speaker 1: But the thing that stands out now is not just

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Speaker 1: They are staying they seem to be staying committed to

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Speaker 1: One thing that clearly stands out, whether that's the right

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Speaker 3: And you and I have talked about this probably three

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Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is, and I actually pulled an

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Speaker 3: article from Alex and Thoppless earlier in the year, is

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Speaker 3: an agent Justin Diskin of the agency actually asked him

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Speaker 3: limits and innings limits and stuff like that, and Alex

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Speaker 3: because there's actually no evidence that it that that's that

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Speaker 3: that stuff works. You know that, you know, guys, teams

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Speaker 3: and that's always been his answer, that they they don't

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Speaker 2: And then this year where.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's been a complete one eighty,

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Speaker 3: but it's definitely been a change where and I think

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Speaker 3: it's a response to how the last two postseasons have gone,

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Speaker 3: where they got to the end of the year and

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Speaker 3: their pitchers were not healthy. It's also a response to

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Speaker 3: what you were talking about about their personnel, right, Chris

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Speaker 3: Sale always dealing with injuries. Ronaldo Lopez was a reliever

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Speaker 3: just on personnel, you know, individual personnel, it makes sense,

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Speaker 3: you said, it's it does come down to the offense

435
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Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. Even though the offense did

436
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Speaker 3: kind of respond in the last two games where they

437
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Speaker 3: scored five runs and seven runs, it didn't matter because

438
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Speaker 3: the pitching gave up so many runs to the Brewers.

439
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I said it on Tuesday, I'll sit again.

440
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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to the top four being great,

441
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Speaker 3: Like those guys have to be awesome, and you know,

442
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Speaker 3: the back half of the lineup I don't have a

443
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Speaker 3: lot of hope for, if I'm being honest, not until

444
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Speaker 3: Michael and and Ozzie get back. Just the names they're

445
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: running out there on a daily basis are just it's tough.

446
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Speaker 2: And I've given.

447
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Speaker 3: Up on waiting on Adam Devall or you know, Loreano.

448
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: They actually dfae Rosario today, which we should mention. But

449
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Speaker 3: you know, Mayfield, like I just I don't have a

450
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Speaker 3: ton of confidence in any of these players. So it's

451
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Speaker 3: gonna have to come from the top in my opinion,

452
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Speaker 3: And you know, jorce Hilaireo has not had a great

453
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Speaker 3: start first week with the team. His most noticeable plays

454
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Speaker 3: I've probably been in the outfield, which is not good.

455
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Speaker 2: That is not what you want.

456
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Speaker 3: You want his most notable plays being when he's standing

457
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Speaker 3: at the plate, not when he's standing in right field.

458
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Speaker 3: And so far it's been the ones where he's standing

459
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Speaker 3: in right field. So that tells you how it's going.

460
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Speaker 3: They need him to be awesome. They need Riley to

461
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: be awesome, they need Ozuna, they need awesome, they need

462
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Speaker 3: those four guys to be awesome. And there's no better

463
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Speaker 3: place to get going than covers field if you're a hitter.

464
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Speaker 3: And that's kind of what I'm hoping for. You know,

465
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Speaker 3: this was as this was as miserable a viewing experience

466
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Speaker 3: in terms of a three game series as I've seen

467
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Speaker 3: in a long time from this team, this Milwaukee series.

468
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Speaker 3: And the only thing you do is flush it and

469
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Speaker 3: go to Colorado and start a winning streak. And that's

470
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Speaker 3: a great place to start a winning streak because Colorado

471
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Speaker 3: is a terrible team. It's a great place to get

472
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Speaker 3: your off. It's going obviously, you know, the Braves aren't

473
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Speaker 3: pitching their absolute best guys.

474
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Speaker 2: Obviously We've talked about that.

475
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Speaker 3: But yeah, get a winning street going, and it's going

476
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Speaker 3: to start with those top four guys and Steven.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you then a bit about the pitching management

478
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the series. Grant Holmes going on Friday,

479
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Speaker 1: you hope that he can give you five innings because

480
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Speaker 1: our bullpen, as you mentioned on Twitter, you know, we

481
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Speaker 1: only had our starters eleven total innings of twenty seven

482
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Speaker 1: possible ones against the Brewers, you know, in this previous series.

483
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Speaker 1: So Grant Homes going five is nearly a must with

484
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Speaker 1: the fact that our bullpen, you know, has been used

485
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Speaker 1: quite a bit in the past few days. Max Freed

486
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Speaker 1: pitching on Saturday, you hope for better results from him

487
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Speaker 1: after a pretty shaky start, you know, with him coming

488
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Speaker 1: back off.

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Speaker 5: The I L.

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Speaker 1: But when I talk about managing, you know, the focus.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at that Sunday game and we've

492
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Speaker 1: seen some maneuvering with the Ian Anderson down in the

493
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Speaker 1: minor leagues.

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Speaker 3: A J.

495
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Speaker 1: Smith Shauber could potentially be an option. You would love

496
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Speaker 1: to potentially see the Braves be able to manage that Sunday,

497
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Speaker 1: and then you get against the Giants, who I think

498
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Speaker 1: are the best team that the Braves are going to

499
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Speaker 1: be facing in this three game in this three series

500
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Speaker 1: stretch out West, you potentially gonna have swelling Box, Sale

501
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and Morton going in three of those four games against

502
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Speaker 1: the Giants. But that Sunday, do you look to potentially

503
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Speaker 1: set someone up to you know, have a potential, you know,

504
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Speaker 1: spot for multiple starts, or do you manage it to where,

505
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe you just have an opener on that

506
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Speaker 1: Sunday game. Would you go with an Ian Anderson or

507
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Speaker 1: an A. J. Smith Shaw or in that Sunday game

508
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Speaker 1: against the Rockies.

509
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna have to be somebody like that, because

510
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, Sale is unavailable, Maxim will obviously be unavailable.

511
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Speaker 3: He's gonna pitch Saturday. Morton will be unavailable. He just

512
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Speaker 3: pitched today. It sounds from what they're saying that swelling

513
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Speaker 3: Back will not pitching that series at all. They're they're

514
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Speaker 3: pushing him back, so he's unavailable.

515
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you.

516
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Speaker 3: Got he got Homes and then you got some Triple

517
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Speaker 3: A guys, and obviously Homes is pitching on Friday, so

518
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Speaker 3: he's unavailable.

519
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, you just got triple at guys.

520
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Speaker 3: So you know, if you look at Gwinnette's rotation in

521
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: terms of how they've lined up for this weekend, really

522
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Speaker 3: the only two guys unless they, you know, do an

523
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Speaker 3: injury or something to get Elder back, are A. J.

524
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Speaker 3: Smith Schalver and Ian Anderson. So my guess is one

525
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Speaker 3: of those guys. I would probably guess AJ, but who knows. Honestly,

526
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Speaker 3: sometimes I do. I feel like they flip a coin

527
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: with this stuff. But it's probably gonna be AJ. You know,

528
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Speaker 3: he's a flyball pitcher. So is Ian Anderson though, so

529
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Speaker 3: that you know you're you're doing it one way or

530
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Speaker 3: the other there. But obviously a flyball pitcher in Colorado

531
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Speaker 3: is not exactly what you want, especially you know, for

532
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Speaker 3: both of those guys, it'd be the first time they

533
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Speaker 3: pitched in the Majors in a while, so it's not ideal,

534
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 3: of course, but it's gonna It's probably gonna be one

535
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Speaker 3: of those unless they do something crazy. I don't think

536
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Speaker 3: they do a bull putting game in Coors, just because

537
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: you know, you get so worried about your bullpen out there,

538
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: and like you just said, they use their bullpen a

539
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: ton in this Milwaukee series. Their starters, bravestarters gave them

540
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: very very little in this series, and the bullpen had

541
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Speaker 3: to cover a ton of innings. So the bullpen's already

542
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: going into Colorado pretty you know, pretty worn out.

543
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Speaker 2: So I'd be surprised if they did a bullpen game.

544
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Speaker 2: I guess it's a possibility. I guess is A J.

545
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: Smith Schalver is going to start the game and we'll

546
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: see what happens. You know, if they gives you five,

547
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: you kind of feel pretty.

548
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Speaker 2: Blessed about that.

549
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: Maybe the offense can just go you know, full Milwaukee

550
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: Brewers and just bludgeon a team to death for three games.

551
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: We haven't really seen that all year, but it is

552
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Speaker 3: technically a possibility the Braves offense could just explode and

553
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: that would be wonderful.

554
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna be assume what they do.

555
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: How they get there, of course, is gonna matter the

556
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: first two games of the series, so we'll see about

557
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: all that. But my guess is AJ is going to

558
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: pitch that Sunday game.

559
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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is this is that with

560
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Speaker 1: where we are in terms of you know, it being

561
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Speaker 1: August playoff picture, all this different stuff now I've know

562
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Speaker 1: we've lost five straight. I know that this offense continues

563
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of get to lower and lower

564
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: points than we've seen, you know, all season. And I

565
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm about to say. We've said before this

566
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: season in the offense has let us stay on nearly

567
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: every single time. But in this Colorado series, if the

568
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Speaker 1: offense could just play even to the level that it

569
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Speaker 1: has the last two games, I think that will be

570
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Speaker 1: a good enough offense to win at least two out

571
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Speaker 1: of three games in this series. And if the Braves

572
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Speaker 1: can do that, If they can win two out of

573
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Speaker 1: three games in this series against the Rockies, you then

574
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Speaker 1: go to San Francisco, who, yes, they're a talented team,

575
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Speaker 1: but you go to San Francisco, You've got schwellabachas an

576
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: option sale Morton, who I know just struggled, but you know,

577
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: hey more often than not, and he keeps you in

578
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: the game. You've got those three going in that series,

579
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Speaker 1: and get in San Francisco and then going in next week,

580
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: you're looking at potentially getting Michael Harris back, and eventually

581
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Rinaldo Lopez back. I understand that it

582
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: looks bleak, right now it looks bad and it's not

583
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: fun to watch or even talk because of the series

584
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: that we just had against Milwaukee. But if we can

585
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: just get and I know that it's a tall ass

586
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: right now, Steven, if we could just get a series win,

587
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: you start to piece together some you know, that bridge

588
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: to wear more positive days ahead. It seems so easy

589
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: to say, but it's just it's very hard to put

590
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in with how many similar spots

591
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: we've been in this year and we haven't taken advantage

592
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Speaker 1: of it.

593
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll settle for just a win at this point.

594
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: I mean a series win would be great, but just

595
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: anywin against any team any way possible, would be fantastic.

596
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: Just to get the mojo, you know, stop the slide,

597
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: stop the free fall.

598
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it does it.

599
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to be dramatic about it, but like

600
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Speaker 3: watching this series this week, it felt like the whole

601
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: season was.

602
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Just spiraling out of control.

603
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Speaker 3: And another couple of the beat guys you know, wrote

604
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: about that, you know, some of their postgame stories like it.

605
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: Just this this week felt particularly excuse me, particularly miserable,

606
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: and they just need to win. They got to get

607
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: a win. They you know, Friday night would be great,

608
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Speaker 3: get the trip off to a good start, maybe win

609
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Speaker 3: the series, like you said, maybe even sweep a really

610
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: bad Colorado team. You know, that would be of course

611
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: a perfect perfect series. But yeah, just any win at

612
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Speaker 3: this point, I'm not gonna get greedy. Just win a game,

613
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Speaker 3: you know, get a starter through the fifth inning, which

614
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: way they haven't done in all week basically, So get

615
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Speaker 3: a starter through the fifth inning, get the offense out,

616
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Speaker 3: score some runs of the bullpen, have a nice clean

617
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Speaker 3: you know, just get back to winning an a game

618
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Speaker 3: and then go from there and do it again, and

619
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Speaker 3: then do it again, and you know that's what this

620
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: is it. I mean, we're kind of just at this

621
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: point just just go get a game and then go

622
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Speaker 3: from there, and then eventually you'll get all your starters back,

623
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Speaker 3: and hopefully at some point you're going to start pitching

624
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: these guys every fifth day, putting your best foot forward

625
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: every night, giving you yourself the best chance to win. Hopefully,

626
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: by that point the offense will have remembered how to

627
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: you know, hit, and you know they can actually do

628
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: something in the last few weeks of this season, but

629
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Speaker 3: you gotta win a game first. It starts at just

630
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 3: the most basic level. Go win a single game and

631
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Speaker 3: just take it from there.

632
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Speaker 1: You know, if we fast forward, you know, two months,

633
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll still be playing baseball. But you know, I

634
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: said a month ago, you know that I felt that

635
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Speaker 1: that possibly the most defining stretch of the season was

636
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Speaker 1: right before the All Star break, where we scored five

637
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: plus runs in eight of ten games. We were six

638
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: and four against the Phillies, the Padres, and the Dining Backs.

639
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: I felt that us managing well through that part of

640
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: the schedule was something that was really going to stand

641
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: out as being you know, where we played, you know,

642
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: against good teams, we played good, and that allowed for

643
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: us to maintain you know, our good playoff positioning that

644
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: obviously has not worked out well this I think now

645
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: if we two months from now, look back this West

646
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Speaker 1: Coast script, the Rockies, the Giants, and the Angels, and

647
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I know you could say this really about any stretch,

648
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Speaker 1: but with the fact that the Braves are clearly going

649
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: to be the best team in each of these series,

650
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: where and how badly they played going into this West

651
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Speaker 1: Coast stretch and how much they need to get back

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Speaker 1: going with how well other wildcard teams are playing. This

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Speaker 1: likely is the defining stretch of the season. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably say that again, but at the very least,

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Speaker 1: I think this is one of the most important stretches

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Speaker 1: of baseball that the Braves have faced in quite a while.

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Speaker 1: You may even need to go back to August of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one for the last time where the Braves

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Speaker 1: team needed to badly put a string of games together.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the potential to do it. I

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Speaker 1: feel confident that they're at least going to have some

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Speaker 1: success in Colorado. But Steven, it's now or never. They

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Speaker 1: got to take advantage of this stretch have a winning

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Speaker 1: record over the next ten games. If they do, hey

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Speaker 1: we'll see where we are at the end of that stretch.

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Speaker 1: If they don't, well, you know what, it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Odds may even be worse in terms of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But now it's now or never for this season. Not

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Speaker 1: trying to be dramatic, but that's just a that's where

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Speaker 1: I feel we're at with how much we've struggled recently.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the difference is for this particular moment in time,

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Speaker 3: is that as we sit here today, the Braves are

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Speaker 3: not in the playoffs, you know, the Mets one tonight. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the Braves have lost five in a row. San Diego

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Speaker 3: and Arizona have taken a firm control of the top

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Speaker 3: two spots, but the Mets one tonight, which means the

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Speaker 3: Braves are actually out of the playoffs. If the playoffs

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Speaker 3: started to day, the Braves would not be in them.

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Speaker 3: And that's you know, Anthony Dicomo of The Athletic, who's

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Speaker 3: the Mets beat writer, had a great tweet earlier where

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Speaker 3: this is the first time since June tenth of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two that if you just took a snapshot of

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Speaker 3: the playoff picture, the Braves are not in that picture.

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Speaker 3: They are not in the playoff bubble right now if

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Speaker 3: the playoffs started today. And that's the first time you

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Speaker 3: can say that since June tenth of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: and that was more than two years ago. So you know,

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Speaker 3: in terms of urgency, the Braves haven't faced this type

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Speaker 3: of urgency in over two years, and especially this late

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Speaker 3: in the season. I mean, you could probably go back

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Speaker 3: long ways since they were this, you know, in this

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Speaker 3: position in August of a season where they weren't even

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. So yeah, I mean, if this doesn't

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Speaker 3: wake them up, if getting your ass kicked the way

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Speaker 3: they got their ass kicked against Milwaukee doesn't wake you up,

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Speaker 3: then you're just not gonna wake up. We're just gonna

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Speaker 3: sleep walk through this season. It's just gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lost season, and you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But if they're gonna wake up, you would think, you know,

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Speaker 3: finally getting booted from the playoffs. They're not in the

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Speaker 3: playoff picture as we stand here today. You know, when

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Speaker 3: first pitch comes tomorrow night in Colorado, they will not

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Speaker 3: be in the playoffs. So they're gonna have to fight

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Speaker 3: their way back in and hopefully that's the thing. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: that's the difference in the thing that wakes them up.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I've thought that before, and they've you know, stayed fairly

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Speaker 3: inconsistent most of the year, so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, there should be a sense of

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Speaker 3: urgency because again, first time since June tenth of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, the Brains are not in the playoffs. If

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Speaker 3: the playoffs started today, So we'll see how they respond.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: And if there's any type of consolation. Like I say,

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Speaker 1: the last time before that I believe was twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: right around this time three years ago, and both those

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Speaker 1: times in twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two, I

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Speaker 1: don't have the status right in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: I believe the Braves played an elongated stretch of winning

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Speaker 1: over seventy percent of their game. So if they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: decide to do that again, hey, now's a better time

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Speaker 1: than any before. But for Steven Tolver, you can find

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Speaker 1: him at b Underscore Outliers on Twitter. My name is

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