Speaker 1: And now watching my mic back, you're like that.
Speaker 2: You can strikes with waters from headquarters behind him and the.
Speaker 1: Word if you're just tuning in the civic cipher, I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Rams is Jah and my name is Quintin.
Speaker 3: But since we're friends and you guys listen to the show,
Speaker 3: I guess you can call me que.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, stick around because we still have a lot
Speaker 1: more to talk about, not the least of which is housing.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about housing, man. These prices are
Speaker 1: out of control, man, This inflation rate is I mean,
Speaker 1: I got two V eight's, so you know I'm filling
Speaker 1: them gas prices man. But yeah, housing obviously is something
Speaker 1: that we need to talk about, and I think that, uh,
Speaker 1: this is National Fair Housing Month or the anniversary of
Speaker 1: the Fair Housing Acts, so I definitely want to talk
Speaker 1: about that as well, and a few other things that
Speaker 1: are worth sticking around for. So stay tuned. But first
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about how to become a
Speaker 1: better ally. Bye by So I'll start us off. This
Speaker 1: one comes from inside themagic dot net, which I know
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like the most reputable of sources, but I
Speaker 1: can assure you there are other reputable sources I just
Speaker 1: like the way this was written. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about Disney become a better ally. How about that Disney
Speaker 1: with all the racist cartoons and all the They've had
Speaker 1: a long road right to get where they are. But
Speaker 1: it just shows that, you know, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: redemption arc in the story here.
Speaker 3: Once you become a multi billion dollar corporation, then yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess you can start trying.
Speaker 1: To be nice. Yeah, well, you know, we'll take it though. Man, Hey, listen, man,
Speaker 1: we all got to get there together, all right, So
Speaker 1: I'll read. In a groundbreaking statement for the Walt Disney Company,
Speaker 1: corporate president Carrie Burke has shared that she is committed
Speaker 1: to having fifty percent of all Disney characters be lgbt
Speaker 1: QIA and racial minorities. Disney Corporate President Gary Buke says quote,
Speaker 1: as the mother of one transgender child and one pan
Speaker 1: sexual child, she supports having many, many, many lgbtqi A
Speaker 1: characters in our stories and wants a minimum of fifty
Speaker 1: percent of characters to be lgbtquia and racial minorities. Now,
Speaker 1: the interesting thing here is there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people who feel like Disney is being too woke and
Speaker 1: they try to attack Disney. I found this in this
Speaker 1: article and I just want to share it. Normally I
Speaker 1: don't do this, but I think it makes an excellent point.
Speaker 1: So there's a Twitter user, we'll shout her out. It's
Speaker 1: at Lori Hirip says, quote she wants fifty percent of
Speaker 1: characters to be LGBTQUI A plus and racial minorities. This
Speaker 1: is the US perspective. Forty two percent of the US
Speaker 1: is not white, five point six percent of the US
Speaker 1: is openly LGBTQI A plus, and Disney is a global company.
Speaker 1: Around eighty four percent of the world is not white.
Speaker 1: Around ten percent of the world is lgbtq IA plus
Speaker 1: and fifty movie representation is fair. So shout out to
Speaker 1: them for becoming a better ally. Now you're a homeowner. Indeed,
Speaker 1: I'm a homeowner. It's kind of a good time to
Speaker 1: be a homeowner. Yeah, it's tough time to be in
Speaker 1: the market. Oh no, no, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: We did a story this might have been about a
Speaker 1: year ago. Man, it's crazy how we're reminiscing so much
Speaker 1: the show. But you know, this goes to show you
Speaker 1: that these are this is the path we have to walk.
Speaker 1: We can't do an episode or pass a piece of
Speaker 1: legislation and then everything changes overnight. This is you know
Speaker 1: that we're in this for the long game. But we
Speaker 1: did do an episode where we talked about whitewashing. I
Speaker 1: believe a home. I have some notes here a little later,
Speaker 1: so I'll touch on it a bit more. But effectively,
Speaker 1: what it was is black people listing their house for
Speaker 1: sale or sorry, getting the appraisals on their house. That
Speaker 1: was what it was, and it would appraise at whatever
Speaker 1: dollar amount, and then they would go through and take
Speaker 1: all their pictures of their family and replace it with
Speaker 1: pictures of a white family, and then have a white
Speaker 1: woman or man meet the appraiser at the house, and
Speaker 1: then lo and behold, the appraisals shot up in value.
Speaker 1: So we did this story before, but now we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about renting as well. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: read a bit. This comes from CBS News. The author
Speaker 1: is Christopher J. Brooks. I got this on April thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Black and Hispanic Americans are paying extra money to secure
Speaker 1: rental housing in the US compared to compared with whites,
Speaker 1: according to Zillo. For those who don't know, Zilo is
Speaker 1: kind of an app that helps you find a rental
Speaker 1: I believe, and also if you want to buy a house,
Speaker 1: I have the Zillo app on my phone. It's actually
Speaker 1: pretty cool, all right. In a report this week, the
Speaker 1: real estate data firm said that, regardless of race, Americans
Speaker 1: paid an average of seven hundred dollars in security deposits
Speaker 1: when renting an apartment, Yet renters of color paid seven
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars, while white renters paid six hundred.
Speaker 1: White renters typically paid fifty dollars for a rental application fee,
Speaker 1: while black Americans paid sixty five. Hispanic applicants paid eighty dollars,
Speaker 1: and Asian Americans paid one hundred dollars. People of color
Speaker 1: also typically must submit more rental applications in order to
Speaker 1: find a place to live, as well as pay more
Speaker 1: in related fees than white renters. Zillo concluded. Zilo attributed
Speaker 1: the higher fees and number of housing applications for renters
Speaker 1: of color partially to their noting that they tend to
Speaker 1: be two years younger than the median white renter. White
Speaker 1: Americans also are more likely to rent in rural areas
Speaker 1: and in the Midwest, which are typically cheaper, but racial
Speaker 1: disparities and rental costs also suggest many landlords often violate
Speaker 1: federal law, said Dan Carbett of Housing Opportunities Made Equal,
Speaker 1: a nonprofit in upstate New York that fights housing discrimination.
Speaker 1: For example, some housing providers can sidestep fair housing laws
Speaker 1: by charging higher application fees for people with subpar credit scores,
Speaker 1: which tends to disproportionately affect lower income renters. Real quick
Speaker 1: to any surprises here so far, anything jump out of
Speaker 1: you is like, Wow, I couldn't have possibly imagined that. Sadly, no,
Speaker 1: my friend, you know what, while I'm here, I want
Speaker 1: to share a quick story. When I was about seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, I got a job at a place called
Speaker 1: Brown and Brown Nissan, and my job was to sell
Speaker 1: ex Terras and Maximas and Frontiers and Centras. Two people.
Speaker 1: You know, people would come in on the lot after
Speaker 1: we sent out like the Sunday paper. They'd come in
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you have one of these cars. I
Speaker 1: want a blue one. I want it for this price.
Speaker 1: They'd walk on the lot. I was the person that
Speaker 1: would go and greet them and say, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go check out your car. I'd get the keys, take
Speaker 1: them on a test drive the whole bit car salesman.
Speaker 1: And as I've shared on the show many times, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been this version of myself. I was very
Speaker 1: fortunate and that I was raised by. My father was
Speaker 1: a minister, very educated minister. He had earned his doctorate,
Speaker 1: and he knew who he was. He stood in the
Speaker 1: middle of his blackness, and he stood in the middle
Speaker 1: of his faith, and he taught his son to stand
Speaker 1: in the middle of his blackness, in the middle of
Speaker 1: his faith. I found something out while I was working
Speaker 1: there that troubled me. It still troubles me to this day.
Speaker 1: Nissan was guilty of charging higher interest rates to black
Speaker 1: people who bought cars from them across the board, all
Speaker 1: things being equal, if you had more melanin, you paid
Speaker 1: more an interest on your car loan. They had to
Speaker 1: eat that and we all knew it. And then guess
Speaker 1: who didn't work at Brown and Brown Nissan anymore. Now
Speaker 1: that wasn't Nissan Corporate that handled all the financing. But
Speaker 1: still one of those things that just kind of eats
Speaker 1: at you, you know, and you know, for me, I
Speaker 1: carry this burden with me. At some point I pray
Speaker 1: that I won't have to carry it anymore. But I
Speaker 1: carry this burden with me which tells me that I
Speaker 1: need to make sure that I'm working with someone who
Speaker 1: is white and not working for someone who is white.
Speaker 1: And I'll break that down because I know that's that
Speaker 1: might be a lot to hear, but working for somebody
Speaker 1: is it Kind's a there's a power in that relationship
Speaker 1: that I don't like if they say the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: if they do the wrong thing. They might be the
Speaker 1: most well intentioned person in the world, right but if
Speaker 1: they say the wrong thing, you know, it just hits
Speaker 1: the ear a little funny. And I owe it to
Speaker 1: the ancestors, you know, for those people that don't have
Speaker 1: those connections, that haven't read the story. I know I
Speaker 1: sound crazy, but I owe it to people who lived
Speaker 1: hard and short lives, whose bodies are buried in the
Speaker 1: ground right here where I am right here to not
Speaker 1: get pushed around, bossed around, forced around by someone who
Speaker 1: doesn't appreciate my worth as a human being. And so
Speaker 1: it's those relationships where I feel like I'm working with
Speaker 1: someone where I tend to flourish. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: working for someone that will be a short lived arrangement,
Speaker 1: you know, not to say that I haven't had you
Speaker 1: know that in my life, because I have, you know,
Speaker 1: But I say that to say that, this brown and
Speaker 1: brown Nissan story, it just made me. It made my
Speaker 1: stomach turn because I sold cars to black women who
Speaker 1: had kids, who were excited to get a CenTra E
Speaker 1: CenTra as the small Nissan, you know, a basic entry
Speaker 1: level car. They were excited to get a Center. I
Speaker 1: sold that car to that woman and she drove it
Speaker 1: to the South Side and parked it in front of
Speaker 1: her house. And for the next six months she was
Speaker 1: all the way on kept it blotched. I know that.
Speaker 1: And she was paying more for that car, unfairly paying
Speaker 1: more for that car. And I was a link in
Speaker 1: that chain, and I couldn't stomach it, and I didn't
Speaker 1: work there anymore. Right, But I'm telling you that so
Speaker 1: that you know how I relate to this housing story,
Speaker 1: how black people are charged more for the same things.
Speaker 1: And it's not a matter of like could we afford
Speaker 1: it or anything like that. It's just a hurtful thing.
Speaker 1: It was a hurtful thing because we were talking about
Speaker 1: a couple of dollars here and there. That's not going
Speaker 1: to make or break anybody, you know what I mean? Overall, Yes,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about the whole population, then sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're extracting or Black folks as a population are losing
Speaker 1: a degree of wealth, you know. But individual households, you know,
Speaker 1: going from fifty dollars to sixty five dollars doesn't make
Speaker 1: or break anymore. But what it does to you psychologically
Speaker 1: is way more profound. And remember this was over twenty
Speaker 1: years ago when I was selling these cars, a brown
Speaker 1: and brown Nissan. So me reading this when I was
Speaker 1: preparing for today's show, lets me know that even though
Speaker 1: we've come so far in the past twenty years, we've
Speaker 1: elected a black president, right, you know, we've we've done
Speaker 1: a lot in the past twenty years, and then there's
Speaker 1: still so much further to go. There's so many other
Speaker 1: things we have to deal with. I'd almost rather it
Speaker 1: be a car than a house. I wish you can
Speaker 1: get a used car maybe, or even you know, buy
Speaker 1: private owner. You know, these application fees or you get
Speaker 1: the point. I'll continue. Bias in housing persists in part
Speaker 1: because people who may be subject to discrimination often do
Speaker 1: not report it, adding that victims often never discover they
Speaker 1: are paying higher fees or face a higher rate of
Speaker 1: rejection than white renters. Anyone who paid more money for
Speaker 1: housing during an unequal application process can sue the provider
Speaker 1: and have the money refunded. Corbett said, However, that often
Speaker 1: involves a lengthy, expensive court battle. Now, before I finish this, Q,
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that there are many things that we talk
Speaker 3: about that, as you stated, don't surprise us, but we're
Speaker 3: not numb to it. It still gives you that sick
Speaker 3: to your stomach kind of sense of disbelief that we're
Speaker 3: still dealing with these same types of problems they have
Speaker 3: all they don't go away. They seemingly multiply, like they
Speaker 3: find different ways to sow that indoctrination into different areas
Speaker 3: of our lives. Someone has to write out policy like that,
Speaker 3: or they have to in some sort of gathering or
Speaker 3: rate policy like that, and everyone present has to be
Speaker 3: okay with it for it to go further. And that's
Speaker 3: the part that's even more disturbing. We try to pretend
Speaker 3: that we're better as a society and we've made all
Speaker 3: this progress, but people have to come together in groups
Speaker 3: and agree to make these kind of decisions and are
Speaker 3: able to go home to their families, their wives, their kids,
Speaker 3: their husbands, and smile and look themselves in the mirror
Speaker 3: and be okay with the idea that, yes, I'm going
Speaker 3: to make life more difficult for these people based exclusively
Speaker 3: on the way that they look. And this indoctrination and
Speaker 3: this way of thinking has been a truth for tens
Speaker 3: of millions of people, for the entire for the entirety
Speaker 3: of their family lineage. And we're thinking as we go
Speaker 3: over those statistics about the percentages of the world that
Speaker 3: are not white, and let you know why they hold
Speaker 3: on so tight to those positions of power so they
Speaker 3: can continue to push forward these ways of thinking and
Speaker 3: keep themselves with the most leverage so that they can
Speaker 3: continue to minimize, marginalize, punished, segregate, make life less pleasurable
Speaker 3: for people that look like you and I and our kids.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it makes me really angry. Days like today just
Speaker 3: makes me really sad.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's that's important, because that that
Speaker 1: word sad is is a great one right here, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's I mean, it's it's it definitely can make
Speaker 1: someone angry, but it's more, it's more like why what
Speaker 1: what is the point? What? What? What? Why punish us?
Speaker 1: You know? And the crazy part about this is, you know,
Speaker 1: as as I mentioned in the article, you know, as individuals,
Speaker 1: we don't realize it. You know what I mean. This
Speaker 1: is if that's the application for you, that's the application
Speaker 1: for you, sixty five dollars shut you know, so be it.
Speaker 1: But then when you find out on the back end,
Speaker 1: oh that's what you went up to, you don't you
Speaker 1: just rather like imagine feeling that way, you know, we
Speaker 1: we we we didn't get a chance to really delve
Speaker 1: into the story. But we have mentioned on the show
Speaker 1: before the way people who own airbnbs will treat black
Speaker 1: renters when they want to rent the Airbnb. If they
Speaker 1: find out that the renter is black, they'll cancel the reservation,
Speaker 1: do all this sort of stuff. And there's been there was,
Speaker 1: you know, reported a lot of discrimination on Airbnb, right,
Speaker 1: so much so that Airbnb had to kind of step
Speaker 1: in and do their best to prevent their users from
Speaker 1: you know, behaving that way. And then it just kind
Speaker 1: of gives you a glimpse into the world because you know,
Speaker 1: in our day to day lives, it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: these people hate us, so there's enough of them to
Speaker 1: really make a difference. We go to the grocery store,
Speaker 1: We raise our kids, you know, we you know, I
Speaker 1: go to my son's school and I wave it all
Speaker 1: the parents there and they're all nice, and the teachers
Speaker 1: and you know, all different color people. We get along great.
Speaker 1: You know. This is the way that I think the
Speaker 1: world works. And then you end up having to deal
Speaker 1: with these sobering statistics and the sobering reality where it's like,
Speaker 1: deep down somewhere, there's a good number of people who
Speaker 1: really harbor some strange feelings, and they're based off of what,
Speaker 1: you know, prejudices that are you know, centuries old, that
Speaker 1: are untrue. They're based in racism, you know. And then
Speaker 1: it's so hard for people to challenge themselves because of
Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance. Is so hard for people to even know,
Speaker 1: you know, that they're the ones doing the wrong. It's
Speaker 1: hard for people to be the bad guy in their
Speaker 1: own story, right, And so this is a glimpse into
Speaker 1: a reality that you know, unless you're a black person
Speaker 1: or a Hispanic person, you know, this might not ever
Speaker 1: be a real thing for you. So you might not
Speaker 1: ever have to feel it in addition to feeling every
Speaker 1: single other thing. You know, we watched Katanji Brown Jackson
Speaker 1: get berated over all kind of nonsense, you know, we
Speaker 1: got Yeah to a person like us, it's like, well, shoot,
Speaker 1: how how much more perfect can you be than perfect? What? What?
Speaker 1: What do you? What? What is there? You know, this
Speaker 1: is not the first time we've seen this. We saw
Speaker 1: it with Obama. We you know, we've seen this sort
Speaker 1: of thing happen. But it just and and and to
Speaker 1: be fair, she made it so we're good, we got
Speaker 1: you know, we're okay, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a happy time. We're not. We're not. It's all not
Speaker 1: doom and gloom. But it just serves to remind us
Speaker 1: of exactly what it takes and how difficult and how
Speaker 1: unfair it is. You know, it's possible now because it's
Speaker 1: been proven to be possible, But just because it's possible
Speaker 1: doesn't mean and it's likely probable any of those things,
Speaker 1: And so we're still left with more or less the
Speaker 1: same reality we've always lived in. I'm sorry I cut you.
Speaker 3: Off ahead too, like you're just far more generous than
Speaker 3: me in cases like this, possible as the standard, it's
Speaker 3: possible to run across the five lane highway. It's possible.
Speaker 3: It's not likely or safe or the best decision to make,
Speaker 3: but it's possible. Like it reminds us that perfection was
Speaker 3: never the goal line or the finish line or the
Speaker 3: standard anyway, because even when we present the most qualified,
Speaker 3: most polished candidate, they just moved the goal line. They
Speaker 3: moved the finish line. Okay, that's not what we meant.
Speaker 3: We meant you shouldn't do this, and you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter how great of an orator you are,
Speaker 3: what Ivory League school you attended.
Speaker 1: Let me jump in real quick, real quick, because you
Speaker 1: said something that was spot on about them moving the
Speaker 1: goal line, no matter how qualified you are. That's literally
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here, to make it more difficult
Speaker 1: for you by increasing the charges and the fees and
Speaker 1: the rents and all this sort of stuff. But I
Speaker 1: cut you off.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, No, continued, I said what I intended to.
Speaker 3: There is no version of us that's enough for the
Speaker 3: person that's decided that as a people, we're not.
Speaker 1: They'll tell you.
Speaker 3: Because everyone wants to come across as a decent person.
Speaker 1: Right, So they'll tell you it's about us.
Speaker 3: Being criminals and about us being scary, and about us
Speaker 3: being uneducated, and about us being violent. But even when
Speaker 3: you're none of those things, then it's going to just
Speaker 3: be about something else. Yeah, it's a standard that you
Speaker 3: can't reach because it's not intended for you too. You've
Speaker 3: checked every box and just put more boxes on there.
Speaker 1: Okay, we didn't do this. Yeah, that sounds like those
Speaker 1: those tests they used to make people take when they
Speaker 1: when they wanted to vote. Doctor Westernberg talked about that
Speaker 1: she's a good friend of the show. You should listen
Speaker 1: to the show or go back and check out some
Speaker 1: previous episodes on CIVI except for Doc that feature her.
Speaker 1: She will change your life, all right, I do want
Speaker 1: to read this. This year we celebrate the fifty fourth
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Fair Housing Act. The landmark law was
Speaker 1: signed in the law on April eleven, nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: by President Lyndon B. Johnson. The Fair Housing Act prohibits
Speaker 1: housing discrimination because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, disability,
Speaker 1: and familial status. Noticed race was first, and I did
Speaker 1: cover that in my other show, Our Daily Story. If
Speaker 1: you want to check that out on iHeart Podcasts. I'd
Speaker 1: highly recommend it if you're interested in pursuing fair housing
Speaker 1: or you know someone they're dealing with that. And I
Speaker 1: do want to also put some names with a couple
Speaker 1: of stories for the show that we talked about last
Speaker 1: time the appraisers came out to do the whitewashed houses.
Speaker 1: Those stories. There was an Indianapolis woman, her name was
Speaker 1: Carlotte Duffy. She was one of the women who whitewashed
Speaker 1: her house, got a friend to a white friend to
Speaker 1: stand in change all the pictures around, and got more
Speaker 1: money out of her house. And then there was a
Speaker 1: Bay Area family Tanisha Tate Austin and Paul Austin. I
Speaker 1: want to say their names because they both were stories
Speaker 1: that we talked about on the show and they had
Speaker 1: to go through that in order for us to be
Speaker 1: able to talk about it and kind of put some breathe,
Speaker 1: some life into that. But yeah, these are real things
Speaker 1: that really happened to real people every day. And for
Speaker 1: those of you listening to this show, it's not lost
Speaker 1: on us that you are doing your best to learn
Speaker 1: how to become a better brother, sister, or whatever to
Speaker 1: Black people, and we are going to keep that same
Speaker 1: energy when it comes to doing the same for you.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Way Black History effect. This
Speaker 1: one comes from With's hisstory dot Org I talk about
Speaker 1: Ruby Bridges. She is a very special person to me.
Speaker 1: I just love her story. This is a story that
Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot of these, you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of learned them right around the time I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get these off. But I've known about Ruby Bridges for
Speaker 1: some time. And the good thing about Ruby Bridges is
Speaker 1: she's still alive, still breathing. So shout out to her
Speaker 1: for even that. This is some recent Black history But
Speaker 1: it'll sound like a way Black History fact, because I
Speaker 1: guess in effect it is. I'll read. At the tender
Speaker 1: age of six, Ruby Bridges advanced the cause of civil
Speaker 1: rights in November nineteen sixty when she became the first
Speaker 1: African American student to integrate an elementary school in the South.
Speaker 1: Born on September eighth, nineteen fifty four, Bridges was the
Speaker 1: oldest of five children for Lucille and Abon Bridges farmers
Speaker 1: in Tylertown, Mississippi. When Ruby was two years old, her
Speaker 1: parents moved their family to New Orleans, Louisiana, in search
Speaker 1: for better work opportunities. Ruby's birth year coincided with the U. S.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court's landmark ruling in Brown versus the Board of
Speaker 1: Education of Topeka, Kansas, which ended racial segregation in public schools. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: Southern states continued to resist integration, and in nineteen fifty nine,
Speaker 1: Ruby attended a segregated New Orleans kindergarten. A year later, however,
Speaker 1: a federal court ordered Louisiana to desegregate. The school district
Speaker 1: created entrance exams for African American students to see whether
Speaker 1: they could compete academically at the all white school. Ruby
Speaker 1: and five other students passed the exam. Her parents were
Speaker 1: torn about whether to let her attend the all white
Speaker 1: William France Elementary School, a few blocks from her home.
Speaker 1: Her father resisted, fearing for his daughter's safety. Her mother, however,
Speaker 1: wanted Ruby to have all the educational opportunities that her
Speaker 1: parents had been denied. Meanwhile, the school district dragged its feet,
Speaker 1: delaying her admittance until November fourteenth. Two of the other
Speaker 1: students decided not to leave their school at all. The
Speaker 1: other three went to the all white McDonough Elementary School.
Speaker 1: Ruby and her mother were escorted by four federal marshals
Speaker 1: to the school every day that year. She walked past
Speaker 1: crowds screaming vicious slurs at her. She's six, my son
Speaker 1: is seven. Undeterred, She later said she only became frightened
Speaker 1: when she saw a woman holding a black baby doll
Speaker 1: in a coffin. She spent her first day at the
Speaker 1: principal's office. Due to the chaos created as angry white
Speaker 1: parents pulled their children from school, ardent segregationists withdrew their
Speaker 1: children permanently. Barbara Henry, a white Boston native, was the
Speaker 1: only teacher willing to accept Ruby, and all year she
Speaker 1: was a class of one. He would be eight lunch alone,
Speaker 1: and sometimes played with her teacher at recess. She never
Speaker 1: missed the day of school that year. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Barbara Henry one day. That's what I want
Speaker 1: to do, become a better ally. Shout out to Barbara Henry.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna switch gears here. If this comes
Speaker 1: from Wikipedia, I know that's not the most scholarly source,
Speaker 1: but I think it fits right here. It's important for
Speaker 1: me to share, and then we'll go back to the
Speaker 1: women's History dot Org blurb. The Bridges family suffered for
Speaker 1: their decision to send her to William France Elementary. Her
Speaker 1: father lost his job as a gas station, attended the
Speaker 1: grocery store, the family shop that would no longer let
Speaker 1: them shop there. Her grandparents, her grandparents all right, grandparents
Speaker 1: who were sharecroppers in Mississippi, were turned off their land,
Speaker 1: and Avon and Lucille Bridges separated. Bridges has noted that
Speaker 1: many others in the community, both black and white, showed
Speaker 1: support in a variety of ways. Some white families continue
Speaker 1: to send their children to France despite the protest. A
Speaker 1: neighbor provided her father with a new job, and local
Speaker 1: people babysat watched the house's protectors and walked behind.
Speaker 4: Them the Federal Marshal's car on the trips to school.
Speaker 4: So it's not until Bridges was an adult that she
Speaker 4: learned that the immaculate clothing she were to school in
Speaker 4: those first weeks and France was sent to her family
Speaker 4: by a relative of Col's. Bridges says that her family
Speaker 4: could have never afforded dresses, socks, and shoes that are
Speaker 4: documented in photographs.
Speaker 1: Ever, escort by the US marshals to and from the school.
Speaker 1: All Right, this is heavy for me. I mean becoming
Speaker 1: a father that really changed me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So whenever I hear stories about people being unkind to
Speaker 1: black children, it's a lot for me. I was a
Speaker 1: black child, Yeah, I get it. Remember that one time
Speaker 1: when we caught Nayla on the street too, there was
Speaker 1: a quick story. We caught a homeless little girl, a
Speaker 1: little black girl on the street, put together a whole
Speaker 1: to do about her, got her taken care of. So
Speaker 1: we put our money where our mouth is. We'll tell
Speaker 1: that story later, all right, or you can look it
Speaker 1: up hashtag lunch bag and Nayla in a e Lah.
Speaker 1: It's documented on YouTube if you want to check out
Speaker 1: the story anyway, back to Women's History dot org. While
Speaker 1: some family supported her bravery and some northerners sent money
Speaker 1: to aid her family, others protested throughout the city. The
Speaker 1: Bridge's family suffered for their courage in oh Sorry. Over time,
Speaker 1: other African American students enrolled. Many years later, Ruby's four
Speaker 1: nieces would also intend. In nineteen sixty four, artist Norman
Speaker 1: Rockwell celebrated her courage with the painting of that first
Speaker 1: day entitled The Problem We All Lived With. Ruby graduated
Speaker 1: from a desegregated high school, became a travel agent, married,
Speaker 1: had four sons. She was reunited with her first teacher, Henry,
Speaker 1: in the mid nineteen nineties. For a time, the pair
Speaker 1: did speaking engagements together. That was Barbara Henry by the way.
Speaker 1: Ruby later wrote about her early experiences in two books
Speaker 1: and received the Carter G. Woodson Book Award a lifelong
Speaker 1: activist for raciality equality. In nineteen ninety nine, Ruby established
Speaker 1: the Ruby Bridges Foundation to promote tolerance and create change
Speaker 1: through education. In two thousand, she was made an Honorary
Speaker 1: Deputy Marshal in a ceremony in Washington, d C. There's
Speaker 1: a way black history fact. What you got for mEq
Speaker 1: deep thought? The word tolerance right.
Speaker 3: We've lowered the standard to that point to ask for
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Speaker 3: rate it to matter, not to be loved and accepted,
Speaker 3: poured into, upheld and rich cultivated. No, allow us to
Speaker 3: exist and do your best to tolerate us.
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