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Speaker 1: Hawks Slid presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I'm you're your host Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 3: What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Hawk Slide presented by the Dining distic

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Speaker 2: after Bellvy Collection every Thursday right here at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: on the Seattle Spot seven to ten, broadcasting live for

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Speaker 2: the Belvy Square Center Court.

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Speaker 3: I'm Michael Bumpus.

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Speaker 2: With my guy Paul Moyer aka moy Yeezy.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Moye? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 4: I'm just happy to be here. Glad you're hosting, great

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Speaker 4: crowd as always, and look we got this is just

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Speaker 4: special week for me because we got throwback Throwback Week

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Speaker 4: here and we get to Miles Adams here, we get

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Speaker 4: to ask him about that.

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Speaker 3: We got Throwback.

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Speaker 2: Week coming up, and we got to we get to

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Speaker 2: talk to a guy early who's gonna wear that throwback jersey,

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Speaker 2: Miles Adams.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Miles? How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man? I'm blessed, man, I can't complain that about y'all.

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Speaker 2: Hey, We're blessed too. Man, you're here wanting us on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday night. What do your Thursday nights look like?

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Speaker 2: You know, some guys are getting treatment, they're at the

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Speaker 2: at the v mag What are you doing on a

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Speaker 2: Thursday night?

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Speaker 3: Your typical Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: Typical Thursday night, get a little bit of bodywork down

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Speaker 5: post practice, but turn on some film, watch practice. But

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Speaker 5: I got to turn on Thursday night football.

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Speaker 4: What's happening on Thursday night football right now? We don't

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Speaker 4: have it going on right now? Who's winning?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's Buds and the bills going right now. I

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Speaker 5: just turned it on, so it's on commercial, so I

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Speaker 5: don't even know who's ahead right now.

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Speaker 4: Miles. Everybody said, you're gonna love when you get him

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Speaker 4: on the show. He's got the smoothest voice radio voice.

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Speaker 4: And you do not disappoint my man. That is That

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Speaker 4: is sweet? Dude. Do you actually have aspirations at some

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Speaker 4: point to try and take over Michael Bumpus role and

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Speaker 4: to actually get into media.

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Speaker 5: Takeover a role a lot on? No, maybe do one

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Speaker 5: of my own or something of that nature. I've been

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Speaker 5: told that before, though I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Dang smooth as Heck, hey, man, I want to take

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Speaker 2: you back to the New York Giants. Man, everybody was

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Speaker 2: eating lots of sacks going on there, but you got

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Speaker 2: yourself your first career sack. Have you had like a

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Speaker 2: moment to let that sink in and enjoy it. I

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Speaker 2: know everybody was getting it, but uh man, you got yours?

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Speaker 3: What was that moment?

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Speaker 5: Like? Man? The timing was kind of crazy because we

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Speaker 5: had a bot week right after that game on a

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Speaker 5: Monday night, Crime Camp slat, So I got a whole

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Speaker 5: week to sook it in and went back home to

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Speaker 5: Texas to see my mother and sous and they kept

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Speaker 5: her behinding me of my first act, so I got to.

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Speaker 4: Really really it's been fun to watch the defensive line

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Speaker 4: this year. I mean it's very different than last year.

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Speaker 4: Last year, you were you guys are probably more of

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Speaker 4: a traditional three to four defensive line. You had some

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Speaker 4: big guys, you know, with their hands down usually their

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Speaker 4: feet were parallel, more of a two gap. It felt

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Speaker 4: like this year, you guys are smart and you're quicker,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of times it's just two of you

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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're going to use speed and quickness to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you could say that. I think it's more so

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Speaker 5: utilizing the skill set that our B line room prevents.

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Speaker 5: You know, we guys like Jaron Reid back, and we

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Speaker 5: signed guys like Drew Command, Jeromes and Edwards. You know,

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Speaker 5: I called him Rio, but we got some good, bad

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Speaker 5: a really good, really good edge to have those quick twitch,

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Speaker 6: It's been working well.

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Speaker 4: And when I look at your game and I remember

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Speaker 4: when you flash in preseason a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: this give you I mean, does it fit your obviously

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Speaker 4: to play because they are looking for those more quick

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I know. That's one thing that the coaches

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Speaker 5: That's one of my top attributes I'd say to my

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Speaker 5: game is what I say, So that is something that

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Speaker 5: I highlight. It's more so based on the opponent in

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Speaker 5: the game plan. But that is what they like to attack.

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Speaker 5: They use me to attack the quickness, get a field

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Speaker 5: kind of penetrate, getting the backfield.

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Speaker 3: Miles.

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Speaker 2: Football is a game and it's meant to be fun,

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Speaker 2: but when you're playing at the NFL level, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of pressure. This is the first year in a

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Speaker 2: few years watching this defense play to where I feel

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Speaker 2: like you guys are having a blast out there. Man,

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Speaker 2: what's it like playing with this group and executing the

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Speaker 2: way that you guys have been executing?

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Speaker 5: Man, that's a loaded question. I don't even know how

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Speaker 5: to answer that question. To start. Man, how like getting

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Speaker 5: and get in George j b and uh signing guys

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Speaker 5: then all the Jamal, you know, Jamal and Jake coming

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Speaker 5: come back, and it's just it's just the man in

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Speaker 5: the seament. You got to shout out the young guys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, it really is remarkable the amount of not

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Speaker 4: their productivity. But I'm going to take you back a

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Speaker 4: little bit to your college days. You went to Rice.

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Speaker 4: You're from Arlington, Texas. That's Dallas Country. I know TCU

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Speaker 4: is not that far from from Arlington. What what transpired there?

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Speaker 4: I know you were a two way player in high school,

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Speaker 4: both the center and and defensive lineman. But what what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and high school, I definitely went both both ways.

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Speaker 5: I'll stay both ways. So I got to have some fun.

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Speaker 5: I actually had to. I didn't really understand how recruitment

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Speaker 5: worked in the How would I say that, I didn't

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Speaker 5: to play defensive line. I personally like to attack. I

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Speaker 5: make my living hitting the quarterback. So Rice was the

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Speaker 5: only camp that my father would pay for. And I

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Speaker 5: didn't know it at the time, but my mom had

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Speaker 5: a pretty renowned job and they recruit from Rice. They

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Speaker 5: so he only paid for the Rice camp and I

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Speaker 4: So I committed, Oh, that's smart. Your mom's financed person.

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Speaker 4: You sharing what she does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a finance coordinator for a company called Bang

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Speaker 5: I think the headquarters Rogra in Boston if you've heard

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Speaker 5: of them, but yeah, they she she she's been there

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Speaker 5: for for for for a pretty long time. Shout out

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Speaker 5: to her man. She she definitely was working in my favor.

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Speaker 5: She always has, but she was looking out for me

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Speaker 5: with that decision for sure.

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Speaker 4: Now that's that was good decision. Rice obviously tough school

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Speaker 4: to get into, good academics, and you never know what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen in the NFL world, so you always

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Speaker 4: want to rely on that degree.

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Speaker 5: I agree, and I was able to get it. It's

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Speaker 5: a blessing. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Miles, I'm from southern California. So there's a battle

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Speaker 2: going on right now right everyone in LA claims in

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Speaker 2: and outs. In the Northwest, they claimed DICKX Burger's. Something

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Speaker 2: tells me you got a different fast food chain that

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Speaker 2: you like. Man, talk to me about what you want

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Speaker 2: to bring to the Northwest.

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Speaker 5: I don't even think that y'all could handle it. Man,

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Speaker 5: What you talk about?

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Speaker 3: What you talk about?

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Speaker 6: Moms Man?

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Speaker 5: Man, that's a good old fashioned what Burger?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 5: What a Burger?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 3: No, Miles.

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Speaker 2: When we we played Dallas in twenty nineteen and we

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Speaker 2: late and I was in we were in Texas, I go,

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Speaker 2: I need a what a Burger? And I stayed in

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Speaker 2: line in the drive through for about forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Uh, to get a burger?

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Speaker 5: Love.

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Speaker 3: Man, it was pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: It was an experience for show man.

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Speaker 5: That's forty five minute times about right. But I'm glad

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Speaker 5: you enjoyed it. Man, I'm glad you're.

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Speaker 4: Miles a cool cat man. You know, Miles, you used

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Speaker 4: to have a What a Burger in downtown Bellevue and

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Speaker 4: it closed. I think it closed, didn't it? Yeah? I

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Speaker 4: think it's gone.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Is there one anywhere around here that you can get to?

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Speaker 5: Are you serious? I didn't even know I had a

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Speaker 5: what Burger up here? No, I had team one. My

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Speaker 5: little bit North Bella.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know they make great when shake shacks

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Speaker 4: not too bad as well. They got a few of

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Speaker 4: those around it. We're talking food, which is the defensive

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Speaker 3: Always good, always good.

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Speaker 5: I could talk all day.

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Speaker 2: Ay Miles man, you know this defense has turned a

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Speaker 2: corner over the last Since week four, they've only allowed

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Speaker 2: you guys have only allowed seven hundred and eleven yards.

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Speaker 2: That's the best in the NFL, about two hundred fifty

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Speaker 2: yards per game.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it guys has figured out who they are and

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Speaker 2: the role that they're playing. Is that Clinton Hurt, Like,

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Speaker 2: talk to me and explain why we've been able to

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Speaker 2: see this defense really take the next step.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit of everything, honestly. Close and

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Speaker 5: give props to coach Hurt because he's been putting us

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Speaker 5: in some positions. But it's a cohesive effort from getting

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Speaker 5: and fixing all of our little things. Because truth be told,

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Speaker 5: if you asked me, we can only beat ourselves. You

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Speaker 5: know a lot of the things that offenses get their

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Speaker 5: little things hand there where we just have to be

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Speaker 5: on our on our assignment and just execute, just out

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Speaker 2: All right, Miles Man, we appreciate the insight, and we

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Speaker 3: You do what you do.

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Speaker 2: Watch that Thursday night football man, and have a good week.

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Speaker 3: All right, man.

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Speaker 4: Take that is one smooth voice, and you can tell

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Speaker 2: I just don't like how you trying to get him

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Speaker 3: He can't. He can take your job.

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Speaker 4: No, I want to take that voice is not mine.

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Speaker 4: My joys can be just disgusting. It's just you gotta

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Speaker 3: It is feet it is.

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Speaker 3: Paul moy Gay.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about these Cleveland Browns and the situation

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Speaker 2: now where you man. The Hawks picked up a huge

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Speaker 2: Wes Moyer half a game in NC West. What do

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Speaker 4: Man, tell me you weren't at the production meeting today.

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Speaker 4: play fantastic football. And what we're doing on our defensive

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Speaker 4: mean we got Witherspoon, we got wool and we got

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Speaker 4: That is the defense. That's the secondary we were hoping

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Speaker 4: last year we couldn't cover. I mean, we just didn't

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Speaker 4: it allows our front to actually get to the quarterback

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Speaker 4: We still got a wayte to go because we're so young, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the youth, the mix of youth and

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they would bring in Frank Clark. I

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought Chenna was one of our most complete

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Speaker 4: You're gonna give Derek Hall some opportunities and see what

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Speaker 4: I've got Bobby. Bobby to me, making the calls was

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Speaker 2: Matchup with the Cleveland Browns, what concerns you.

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Speaker 4: The most Their defense? You know, like Miles Garrett is

443
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: he's from another planet. You know, he's two hundred and

444
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 4: ninety five pounds, but he plays like he's two hundred

445
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Speaker 4: and fifty pounds. For those who didn't hear me, he

446
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: blocked a field goal last week. We've seen guys block

447
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Speaker 4: field goals, Cam Chancellor and Bobby Wagner. When they blocked

448
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 4: the field goal, they had about a five yard running

449
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Speaker 4: head start. Kind of you one of the offensive players

450
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 4: and even the defensive players, just to help them a

451
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 4: little bit, get over the pile and block it. Miles

452
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 4: Garrett did this from a three point stance. And for

453
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Speaker 4: those who have seen some of those social media TikTok

454
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Speaker 4: things whatever, where you see a guy in a pool

455
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Speaker 4: in the water and they jump out of the pool

456
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Speaker 4: onto the deck and you go, that's fake. That's like CGI, right,

457
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: This looked like CGI from a three point stance. He

458
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Speaker 4: jumped over the offensive line and blocked the field goal.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything remotely like that in my life.

460
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Speaker 4: It's the most freakust play ever. They haven't even talked

461
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Speaker 4: about it, so that's my concern. Their front. They are upfield,

462
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Speaker 4: they're one hundred miles an hour, so it's gonna be

463
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Speaker 4: a I think it's gonna be a frustrating game of

464
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Speaker 4: we rush for one yard, rush for one yard rush

465
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Speaker 4: for a minus one, you pop a twelve yard er.

466
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to trap them at times. We're gonna

467
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Speaker 4: have to take shots down field because to try and

468
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Speaker 4: go eighty r on these guys, you know, over ten

469
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 4: series is gonna be really difficult. Our defense has to

470
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Speaker 4: outplay their defense, and I think we're capable of doing it.

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Speaker 3: I believe it. I think they can.

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Speaker 2: The way they've been playing as of late, I think

473
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Speaker 2: they're more than capable. Hey, come join us here at

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Speaker 2: every Thursday. Were right here, seventeen, Seattle Sports. And you know,

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Speaker 2: let's get into these numbers now, the specifics of this matchup. Moyer. Now,

489
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Speaker 2: the game isn't won on paper, but paper will give

490
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Speaker 2: you a good indication about what.

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Speaker 3: You're going to get into.

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Speaker 2: And now when we look at this team and will

493
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Speaker 2: highlight the Cleveland Browns for what they're best known for,

494
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Speaker 2: and that is their defense. Their defense is really good,

495
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: right the number one defense and all the land right now.

496
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: They are number seven against the run, the number one

497
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Speaker 2: against the pass. They got a guy named Miles Garrett

498
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Speaker 2: who has seven and a half sacks over there. It

499
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Speaker 2: feels like this could be a Dave Wyman type of game.

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Speaker 3: I spoke to him earlier today. He goes, look, man,

501
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Speaker 3: it might be six zero. I go, Dave.

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Speaker 2: I pray to the football guys it is not a

503
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Speaker 2: six zero game. But if it's six to zero in

504
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Speaker 2: the hawks favor, I will take it. Man, when you

505
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Speaker 2: look at this matchup, what stands out to you?

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Speaker 4: I'd rather be thirteen to zero. You should we get

507
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Speaker 4: a little cushion. Yeah, there two of their strengths. Their

508
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: defense is phenomenal. Their offense is not. And that's where

509
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: we got to outplay their offense. They do have a

510
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 4: good offensive line, they're not real athletic. Their centers athletic.

511
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: He can pull. He does a lot of cool things.

512
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Speaker 4: You gotta watch for him, you know, doing some getting

513
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Speaker 4: out on and running some even sweeps and traps and stuff.

514
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Speaker 4: But they I think our quickness, which we talked about earlier,

515
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: really plays in our favor on these guys. They're gonna

516
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: have to move their feet to block us. Is gonna

517
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Speaker 4: be tough. They do not have a quarterback. They've already

518
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Speaker 4: ruled out to Shaun Watson. Even though I wouldn't mind

519
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Speaker 4: seeing Deshaun Watson because not like he's been playing great either.

520
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean he's I think he still has a ways

521
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Speaker 4: to go to get back to his old form. They

522
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Speaker 4: do have PJ. Walker, who is you know, he's mobile,

523
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Speaker 4: that's where he could probably hurt us. But he's completing

524
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Speaker 4: under sixty percent of his passes. They're thirty first in

525
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Speaker 4: offense right now, but they're number two in the league

526
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Speaker 4: and rushing. The challenge it for them, though, is Nick

527
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Speaker 4: Chubb is on IR and Jerome Ford is doubtful and

528
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Speaker 4: Jerome's pretty good. He's averaging four point four yards per carry.

529
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Speaker 4: But this is gonna come down to. I mean, this

530
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Speaker 4: is the defensive battle. And last week it was a

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Speaker 4: thirty nine to thirty eight game. I don't see that

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Speaker 4: playing in us. Not the kind of game we play.

533
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: Browns versus Colts, Brown versus Colts. We cannot turn the

534
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Speaker 4: ball over this game. It's okay to punt in this game.

535
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Speaker 4: Play little field position. Make them have to go eighty

536
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Speaker 4: yards on us and see if they're capable. They're twenty

537
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Speaker 4: ninth in turnover ratio. They're minus six this year, and

538
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: so as good as their defenses, they're not creating a

539
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Speaker 4: lot of turnovers and not even creating a lot of sacks.

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Speaker 4: I mean seven and a half sacks has comes from

541
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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. But you if you if you want to

542
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Speaker 4: just watch and enjoy football, go watch both of these

543
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Speaker 4: defensive lines get off the football. Cleveland is they're going

544
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Speaker 4: north and south. I mean mostly north. I'm going that

545
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Speaker 4: a way no matter what. They're not doing a lot

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Speaker 4: of two gapping. So you're gonna have to pick your

547
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Speaker 4: poison at times and again at times you're gonna trap

548
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Speaker 4: these guys. Sometimes we got a maximum protect because they

549
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Speaker 4: will play a lot of manned man. They'll be up

550
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: and bump and run with their corners and they're gonna say, DK,

551
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Speaker 4: if he plays this week and you're healthy, go for it.

552
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Speaker 4: And we're gonna have to go for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they got some guys in that secondary. Got

554
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Speaker 2: Denzel Ward, a two time Pro Bowler. This year he

555
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Speaker 2: has one interception and six passes defendant. You got Greg

556
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Speaker 2: Newsom as well. He started all six games this year.

557
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Speaker 2: He has nineteen tackles, who passes, defenditive, win interception safeties.

558
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Speaker 2: You got Juan Thornhill, and you have Grand Del Pitch.

559
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Speaker 2: So you got some guys who are solid on the

560
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Speaker 2: back end. And part of the reason why they're solid

561
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Speaker 2: on the back end is because they're solid up front.

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Speaker 2: And you're talking about Miles Garrett, Tomlinson. You got Zadarius

563
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Speaker 2: Smith as well. I mean, this defensive line is good

564
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Speaker 2: and ready to go, so it's all connected, right. The

565
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Speaker 2: defensive line helps out the back end. The back end

566
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Speaker 2: helps out the defensive line. And I like the idea

567
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Speaker 2: of not getting greedy and punting the ball and playing

568
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Speaker 2: the field position game. Because if anything, I want to

569
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Speaker 2: ask the guy who's only completing fifty percent percent of

570
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Speaker 2: his passes, no touchdowns, three interceptions, to go seventy five

571
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Speaker 2: eighty yards and try to put a drive. So I'm

572
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Speaker 2: talking about PJ. Walker on the other end, I'll take

573
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Speaker 2: our guy Gino Smith when it comes to okay, put

574
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Speaker 2: a drive together, because.

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Speaker 3: At least we've seen it before.

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Speaker 2: So I like the public service announcement like, hey, be patient,

577
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Speaker 2: this might be a grinder to start the game.

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Speaker 3: And then maybe you can open it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, their secondaries don't gonna be wrong. It's good, but

580
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: you can beat their secondary. It's just can you let

581
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: plays develop long enough with their front four. It's really

582
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: good front four. They again, they got four guys that

583
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Speaker 4: are will be a challenge for us, and so there

584
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: will be times when we need to maximum protect and

585
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Speaker 4: keep like seven guys in if we want to have

586
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Speaker 4: some late developing routes. I think we can get these

587
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: guys deep if we can protect long enough. But look,

588
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: ninety percent of this game is going to be ball out,

589
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: ball out some screens. Let's see if we can keep

590
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: the chains moving, hopefully hit on a big run. But again,

591
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Speaker 4: I think the running game is stick with it, Just

592
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: stick with I know it doesn't look pretty, but there'll

593
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 4: be an opportunity. They'll be a little window, and if

594
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 4: you can get that window, there's room in that secondary

595
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: for you. Because of the way they play in the secondary.

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Speaker 4: We're a better team than they are. And I say

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Speaker 4: that because their defense is fantastic, but we're pretty close.

598
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: We're a much better offense than they are. And that's

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Speaker 4: what's got to show up on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I want to see how they decide to attack Miles Garrett.

601
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Speaker 2: A lot of times, when you have a guy like that,

602
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Speaker 2: your initial response would be, all right, well we run

603
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Speaker 2: away from him. That's not what you want to do.

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00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: You want to run at this dude. I'm not saying

605
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 2: every single time you get at him, but you keep

606
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Speaker 2: them on his toes and they don't want to see

607
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: how they use the tight ends to help these tackles. Right,

608
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: we haven't seen a lot from Will Disley. He only

609
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Speaker 2: has like six catches for fifty seven yards this year,

610
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Speaker 2: but he is the guy.

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Speaker 3: He's probably the best blocking tight end.

612
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Speaker 2: So I want to see when they decide to attach

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Speaker 2: him to the line of scrimmage and how they attack

614
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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: I think you have to be aggressive when it.

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Speaker 2: Comes to that, not necessarily meaning that, okay aggressive, we're

617
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Speaker 2: gonna throw the football down the field, We're gonna run

618
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: at them every single time, but give him something to

619
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Speaker 2: think about so he's not just freelancing and firing off

620
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Speaker 2: that football.

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Speaker 4: Well, Charles Cross is gonna it's gonna be a test

622
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Speaker 4: because he normally lines up to our left on offense.

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Speaker 4: Defense is right, They'll move him every once in a

624
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Speaker 4: while over if then maybe they see it's a real

625
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: mismatch and maybe they have a player too designed. You know, again,

626
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Speaker 4: it's not like, you know, Miles Garrett's always in the backfield.

627
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Speaker 4: He's two hundred ninety five pounds, and you know, I

628
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: used to think, oh, he's probably not a speed rusher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he is. Now I wouldn't say he's an elite

630
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Speaker 4: speed rusher, but at two hundred and ninety five pounds,

631
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Speaker 4: he's an elite speed rusher, but he can bull rush,

632
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: he can spin inside, he can set you up outside.

633
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: If you create space, he can beat you inside. I mean,

634
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Speaker 4: the times where I've seen him have success is when

635
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: the offense, whether the defense of coaches for Cleveland designed

636
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: this where they didn't slide to the left just to

637
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: give a little bit of help. All of a sudden,

638
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: the guard had to I'm down inside and they created

639
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: all the space for Miles Garrett for the offense against

640
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Speaker 4: offensive tackle. I don't want to see a whole lot

641
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Speaker 4: of that because if you get him on his speed rush,

642
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: he will flip that into a bull rushing media and

643
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: the man is strong, he is an he is an

644
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: elite player. You'll have fun watching. But they got some

645
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Speaker 4: other guys in the middle, even though they don't got

646
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Speaker 4: a lot of sacks. Miles got seven and a half.

647
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Speaker 4: I think the next guy's got two and a half.

648
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Speaker 4: Then it's like one, it's gonna be a fun game.

649
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Speaker 4: I'm more the reason why it's gonna be so fun.

650
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Speaker 4: My throwback to you know on me twenty one, My

651
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: twenty ones are gonna be in a in the stadium

652
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Speaker 4: on Sunday with.

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Speaker 3: A Spoon in the back.

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Speaker 4: Oh does that right? I forgot about that. I'm gonna

655
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Speaker 4: go get one. I'm gonna peel it off and uh,

656
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Speaker 4: I think the crowd is gonna be electric. It's gonna

657
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Speaker 4: be a fun week and we can't lose on Throwback

658
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Speaker 4: Jersey Week.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have your throwback out there at twenty one

660
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Speaker 2: with Witherspoon. I'm gonna have mine out there with a

661
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Speaker 2: locket on the back. So we'll just protell like as ours.

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Speaker 2: You know it's both.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever play it in the You're too young now?

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Speaker 3: I had.

665
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: I probably played in the worst row Seahawks ever. So

666
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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just gonna adopt yours and say

667
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Speaker 2: it's mine.

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Speaker 4: Do you you know how they have like the ugly

669
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Speaker 4: Christmas sweaters?

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Speaker 6: Do you do?

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Speaker 4: Do you put the jersey in.

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Speaker 3: Through that first?

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Speaker 2: I'd never put on a jersey that has my name

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Speaker 2: on the back.

675
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Speaker 3: I don't like that.

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Speaker 6: Look all right?

677
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Speaker 4: When we return see one Sunday, brother, When we.

678
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Speaker 2: Return, we'll go around the NFL. What's going down? That's next?

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Speaker 5: Right here?

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Speaker 3: On Hawk's Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Slive presented by the Dining District just a Belldue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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Speaker 1: Seattle's Sports.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to hawks Lide presented by the Dining District

685
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Speaker 2: at the Belgie Collection. Like I said, every Thursday, we

686
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: are right here on sevent ten Seattle Sports, and that's

687
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Speaker 2: time to go around the NFL man. We got the

688
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: Bucks and Bills in progress right now, twenty four to ten.

689
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is thirty of thirty nine, three hundred and

690
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: two yards, two touchdowns, one interception. We're wondering if Baker

691
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: Mayfield was gonna play. He is playing, and he's thirteen

692
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: of twenty three, one twenty four and one touchdown. James

693
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Cook for the Buffalo Bills on the ground has eleven

694
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Speaker 2: carres for fifty five yards and throwing the football or

695
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: receiving the football. Stefan Diggs has eight for fifty five

696
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: and no touchdowns. So that's what's going down on Prime

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Speaker 2: right now. But let's go around the NFL man. I'm

698
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: surprised that the forty nine Ers drop two in a row.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: My question with the forty nine Ers and Brock Party

701
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Speaker 2: was if if someone goes down, if one of his

702
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: ballers go down, would he be able to overcome that?

703
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: In the last two drives against the Vikings, he throws interceptions.

704
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: One of the interceptions, I'm looking at it and I

705
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: go it was the right decision.

706
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: He just didn't execute.

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Speaker 2: That to me, is the next step for Brock Party.

708
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: Can you put the team on his back and say, okay,

709
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: let's go, because you look at this Shanahan offense and

710
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: it seems like you can just put anybody in there

711
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: and they'll have some type of success. We'll see that

712
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: this weekend because it sounds like Sam Darnol is going

713
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: to be the guy there. But when you saw the

714
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Speaker 2: Niners drop two in a row, what were your thought

715
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: and what he's seeing?

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Speaker 4: Well, the first one surprised me because I just didn't

717
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: think they would lose it. I think last week though,

718
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: was even a bigger surprise for me because you start

719
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: losing two games and you go on streak, something's not right.

720
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Speaker 4: And when I was watching brock Purity, and I really

721
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Speaker 4: like Brock Parity, I think, for as far as a

722
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Speaker 4: leader and a human being, how do you not pull

723
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Speaker 4: for this guy? I mean, he's he's as good as

724
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Speaker 4: they come, and I know he's coming off. You know

725
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: the it was the the elbow surgery. I think it

726
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: was an elbow surgery. And it just doesn't look like

727
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: his arm strengths quite back. Not that he's ever had

728
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: elite arm strength, but that ball floats, so he relies

729
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: so much on timing and you've got to be wide open.

730
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Speaker 4: He's not putting in between two guys with a window

731
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Speaker 4: of three feet. That's not his game. He's not it's

732
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Speaker 4: not going to happen. The guys too fast in a sleek.

733
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Speaker 4: So now what I'm and it's you know how I

734
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Speaker 4: always talk about San Francisco. What do you got to

735
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: protect on francisc going to pass game? You've heard me

736
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Speaker 4: say this.

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Speaker 2: How many years you said, make him throw outside the numbers.

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Speaker 4: They can throw outside the number. Everything in their game

739
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: is in the middle of the field, cross some routes,

740
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 4: deep in routes, getting over the linebackers. Well, the last

741
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: two weeks he's had the float balls over. He's trying

742
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Speaker 4: to and he doesn't really have that arm strength and

743
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's that accurate if the guy's not

744
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Speaker 4: wide open. So now he's being forced to actually try

745
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Speaker 4: to win games. And it's again I said this. You

746
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Speaker 4: can play as a backup for a while, you can

747
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Speaker 4: even play a full season if you've got an incredible

748
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: team around you. But when they start to waiver just

749
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 4: a little bit and you need a quarterback to make

750
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: that big time throw and really drive it in there, man,

751
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: it's not sure he's that guy. And so until they

752
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Speaker 4: get Sam, you know they won't. I think Sam's owen

753
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 4: was out last week. They had Kittle, they had McCaffrey,

754
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Speaker 4: they had their.

755
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Speaker 2: Guys only debo.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe their left tackle still Trent, was out too.

757
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: But you know, there's no excuses.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: In this league, they start figuring you out and they

760
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: force you to your weaknesses and that's what they're doing

761
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: right now. And who's gonna have to make an adjustment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is fun for me to watch, honestly,

763
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: because you feel like you got to check some boxes off.

764
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Speaker 2: If you are a quarterback in this league and want

765
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Speaker 2: to be considered elite, you got to be able to

766
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: win some games. And I feel like there's only like

767
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: four or five quarterbacks in this league right now that

768
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Speaker 2: I feel like, all right, two minutes to go. Give

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Speaker 2: me the football. I'm gonna win the ball game for you, man,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm happy to see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, before you leave us on that, remember I sent

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Speaker 4: this to our group text. How about this when trailing

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Speaker 4: by five points centering the fourth quarter, the forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers are zero and twenty nine under Kyle Shanahan since

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. That's an incredible stat. So if they don't

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Speaker 4: have the lead going into the fourth quarter, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a testament to the quarterback

778
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Speaker 4: Garoppolo Purdy that hey, we're putting in your hands. You

779
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: got to lead us back or Shanahan going way back

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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl when they you know, you call

781
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: it what you want, but you know, blew a huge

782
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: lead and he was the offensive coordinator. I don't know,

783
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 4: maybe there's that gag can't quite get it done.

784
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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard that well once when you when you

786
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: sent that stat, I was like, I couldn't believe that

787
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: was true. But once you start breaking it down, you

788
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Speaker 2: think about Kyle Shanahan and his trials and tribulations, it

789
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: starts to make sense. One thing that doesn't make sense

790
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: to me right now is how well Kirk Cousins is playing.

791
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: He's the regular season champion of the world. Right His

792
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: team is what three and four right now? I believe

793
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: or four, three, one and two maybe a flippant, but

794
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: he's playing at it at extremely high level. What are

795
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Kirk Cousins. I mean, he's a good quarterback.

796
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Speaker 4: He's always been a good court I mean when he's

797
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: at Michigan State, you knew there was something there. But

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Speaker 4: what caught my attention when he came out of Michigan

799
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Speaker 4: State was, Oh, this guy is a leader. I mean,

800
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: men will follow him. You know, there's just it's kind

801
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: of like Perdy. I mean, when you're such a good

802
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: human being and you're so humble and you'll do whatever

803
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: it takes to make people around you better, and you

804
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 4: don't make football bigger than life, you know. I mean,

805
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: you know where my faith is. I put a lot

806
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: to Cousins in his faith in God and in the

807
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 4: things he does every day. His consistency along the way,

808
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: and you don't get to bent out of shape when

809
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: things are He's just keep working to get better. Is

810
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: he ever going to be the greatest quarterback?

811
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Speaker 3: You know?

812
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: I mean there's a skill set He's not Patrick Mahomes,

813
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: but man, he just keeps getting better and better. His

814
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 4: arm strength is not the greatest, but he finds ways.

815
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Speaker 4: And I think they're about to go on a role.

816
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 4: I was looking at their next six seven games. They're

817
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: all winnable games. They might even be favored in now.

818
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: One of my favorite teams to watch when they're not

819
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: playing the Seattle Detroit Lions. I mean these started off

820
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: five and one and all of a sudden, Baltimore just

821
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Speaker 2: smacks some man.

822
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Speaker 3: That's all crazy. The NFL is right, when.

823
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Speaker 2: You think a team has had something figured out, there's

824
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: another team that provides a matchup that's hard for them

825
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: to really combat. Man, when you see the Detroit Lions,

826
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: you still see them as one of the best in

827
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Speaker 2: the NFC, Or did that loss.

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Speaker 3: To Baltimore kind of change the way you view them?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you just take one on a chin. In the

830
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: old days, you know, if you got your butt smacked,

831
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Speaker 4: you know, usually it was like, uh, oh, something's not right.

832
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 4: But I've seen the Patriots get smacked and come back.

833
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean New Orleans has done it. Had there's a

834
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 4: bunch of teams that get beat up early. I think

835
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Speaker 4: Detroit's talented. They just took one on a chin. Baltimore

836
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: obviously is a team that you got to be If

837
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna play them, you know you better be ready

838
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: for them. They got a mean run a game, they

839
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: got a complex defense, It gets after you. They got

840
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 4: good players. Lamar Jackson has got a skill set that's

841
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: extremely unique, hard to prepare for, right, and he can throw.

842
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's not just a so that's a that's

843
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: a good game. Can I bring up one though?

844
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: On the NFL you got about thirty to forty seconds.

845
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: That's not going to work. Then I wanted to bring

846
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: up that whole Kareem Jackson thing from the Broncos, and

847
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: I need more time for that. We may have to

848
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: do that on the pregame show. Can we We'll do

849
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: that on the pregame show on Sunday. I have some

850
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: thoughts on that, and I have written out what is

851
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: what is what is unnecessary roughness? By the way, that

852
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: wasn't there, That wasn't even a rule when I played,

853
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: There was no such thing as un necessarily. There was

854
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: a late hit, there were spearing, there was a block

855
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: in the back, there was hitting the guy out of bounds,

856
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: a late hit, things like that, but there was no

857
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: unnecessary roughness. Necessary roughness is subjective. And when you go

858
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: and read there their code for it, it's section eight,

859
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: article two. I can't remember. It read like truly a

860
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 4: law book. And I'm like, what are we doing here?

861
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: And it was by the way and by the way

862
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: they find they suspended him for two games, and the

863
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: letter they wrote him said, while your hit was legal,

864
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 4: it was unnecessary rough You actually had time, and they

865
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: chastised them. They basically talked down to them that you

866
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: had timing, you could have made a better decision. You

867
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 4: didn't need to do this. And I'm like, that guy's

868
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: never played dB in his life. You got to be

869
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: kidding me.

870
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Speaker 2: Can you guys tell us side of the ball he

871
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Speaker 2: played on.

872
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: On the defensive side. No one talked about the quantity.

873
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: By the way here towards the sideline, that play wouldn't

874
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: even happen. But no, it's not on them. Sorry, go ahead.

875
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: It's like my wife, we don't want to talk about this,

876
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: but hey, listen, we're gonna talk about it.

877
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: Let's talk.

878
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about.

879
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: Talk about lean.

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881
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Speaker 2: so many great reshaants to choose from. Today we had

882
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883
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Speaker 2: Brazilian hock does cop but yah, it was awesome. When

884
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: we return, we will hear from olu Ulawa Timmy in person.

885
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: That's the center, one of the centers for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: That is next right on Hawkslive.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Slive, presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court every Thursday from seven

889
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

890
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: No.

891
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: If you're your hosts, Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer.

892
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hawk's Live. Oh, Michael Bumpus, that's my guy,

893
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: Paul moy Gable waiting on Olu. He will be here

894
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: in a minute. But you know what, we have some

895
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: passion behind the topic. We were just talking about, well,

896
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: unnecessary roughness. One of my favorite movies growing up was

897
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: Unnecessary Roughness.

898
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 3: You remember that movie?

899
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I remember Unnecessary Roughness. I mean most

900
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 4: of the good college ones. I think we got Ulu

901
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: here coming so that remember we were going to break

902
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: you said, you know you like my wife. You just

903
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 4: you keep arguing it. And I said, yeah, we'll go

904
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 4: to break and we'll come back and argue. Yeah, we're

905
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: gonna have to postpone that till later.

906
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah it's gonna come back, like yeah, tomorrow or something.

907
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna come back at some point like a bit.

908
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 6: Of the morning.

909
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: All right, now, you're good.

910
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 4: Oh so I step on everything. Oh look, man, good

911
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: to see it.

912
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: What's up?

913
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: Man?

914
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: Good to see you again, Man, get to see you again.

915
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Oh, lou Man, we appreciate you taking time out of

916
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: your Thursday and coming and holler at us.

917
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 6: Man.

918
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: You know, you guys got a task in front of you,

919
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: coming off a.

920
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: Good win against Arizona.

921
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: How's the body feeling, how's the team feeling.

922
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 8: My body's feeling good. I'm still young. I think the

923
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 8: team were feeling good. We're pretty healthy, and we're just

924
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 8: excited to compete this weekend.

925
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: You know, I was, He just asked the question. I was, because, yeah,

926
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: you haven't played every game, and then all of a sudden,

927
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: you're in every snap. It's a physical game you're used

928
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: to just your college career, which we'll get into as well.

929
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Speaker 4: I mean, you have played drown near every snap, probably

930
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 4: since you've been in ninth grade. Are you a little

931
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: more sure than normal or are you truly Hey, I'm young,

932
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm good.

933
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 6: Nah, truly, I'm young and I'm good.

934
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 8: I mean around this point in the season, like guys

935
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 8: that played every game, you know, their body probably.

936
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 6: Aches a little more to mine. But shoot, that was

937
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: my first starts.

938
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Speaker 2: What's your relationship like with Andy? He seems like a

939
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: laid back type of guy. Does he ever get amped

940
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: up or is he pretty even killed most of the time?

941
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 8: Nah, I haven't seen him ever get amped up in

942
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 8: my time here. He's the same guy that you guys

943
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 8: see whenever you guys interview him. He's the same guy

944
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 8: in the O line room, same guy on game day,

945
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 8: during the game, when stuff is going bad or when

946
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 8: stuff is going good.

947
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Speaker 4: You've had some pretty good coach the smart coaches I'm

948
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: gonna say, I mean, you go back to your Air

949
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: Force days in Virginia and certainly at Michigan because I

950
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 4: know you know Harbaugh is he's a guy who wants

951
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: to run the ball and is about offensive line. Now

952
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: you're here with the Seahawks. What makes a great offensive

953
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: line coach?

954
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 8: What makes a great offensive line coach being able to

955
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 8: coach different body types. Everybody in the O line room

956
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 8: gets things done differently, and it's never really a one

957
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 8: size fits all because some guys are longer limbed, some

958
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 8: guys are more athletic than others. But you just got

959
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 8: to find different ways to get the job done. And

960
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 8: then the coach being able to give people the right tools,

961
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 8: the right coaching points to be able to figure out

962
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Speaker 8: how to do the job.

963
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: You guys run a little bit more spread offense here

964
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: where you know Gino's and gun he'll get under center.

965
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: Imagine in Michigan is probably more flipped. He probably were

966
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: quarterback under center quite a bit. Is there a different

967
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: technique Michigan was teaching than they do here with the Seahawks.

968
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: I would just say we run a different scheme.

969
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 8: So running a different scheme, you know, requires different techniques.

970
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 8: But you know, we run some of the same stuff

971
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 8: we ran in Michigan, but we also have a different wrinkle.

972
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 6: So it's good.

973
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: I come from a military family.

974
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: All branches are right, and my dad's a marine, and

975
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: my uncle says he's the smartest one out of the

976
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: family because he went to Air Force Okay, Now you

977
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: initially started.

978
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: At air Force.

979
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: What was it about air Force that attracted you to

980
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: that program?

981
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, coming out of high school, I just was,

982
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 8: you know, I didn't really have a lot of offers.

983
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 8: Air Force was kind of like my best opportunity academically

984
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 8: and athletically, so I just decided to, you know, go there.

985
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: And you ended up going to Virginia mainly closer to home.

986
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: He's from Maryland, long way from home. Yeah, you know

987
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: you did you go to Virginia just hey, this a

988
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: little closer to home.

989
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 8: Well, so I really wasn't enjoying my time at the

990
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 8: Air Force Academy. And my boy who I went to

991
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 8: high school with, he was a year older than me.

992
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 8: He went he was at Virginia. He was playing dB

993
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 8: and he was just like, bro, like we could use

994
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 8: some linemen and like, I mean, I wasn't doing well

995
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 8: at air Force, and I knew I wanted to kind

996
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 8: of be closer to home. I also wanted to be

997
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 8: at another great academic institution.

998
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: So Virginia just made since well, and you have an

999
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: incredible career Virginia and it you know, in the ACC

1000
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: and you end up at Michigan, so to just share

1001
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: with him. How did that transpire.

1002
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: Going from Virginia to Michigan.

1003
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, after the twenty twenty one season, our head

1004
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 8: coach he resigned, and I wanted to enter the draft,

1005
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 8: but the you know, the scouts that I should come

1006
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 8: back to school. I had one more year of eligibility,

1007
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 8: so I was like, all right, I'm gonna do that.

1008
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 8: And Michigan just kind of was the perfect fit. You know,

1009
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 8: they were coming off a great year going to the

1010
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 8: collegeotball playoffs, and I felt like, you know, me going

1011
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 8: there and just the momentum that they had, I just

1012
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 8: felt like it was gonna be a perfect match.

1013
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 6: And it was. We had a great year.

1014
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 8: I mean we we thought we should have went a

1015
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 8: little further, but hey, we didn't play our best game

1016
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 8: against CCU.

1017
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: I've never never played at Michigan, never been to Michigan,

1018
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: seen movies and stories about it. Man, what's it like

1019
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: running out there? Which you guys feel like one hundred

1020
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: thousand in that thing? How many how many show up?

1021
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 6: Shoot, it's like one hundred and ten every week?

1022
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: That's nuts.

1023
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: Man.

1024
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: The most I ever played in front of was I

1025
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: want to say ninety five thousand at Auburn. But man,

1026
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: there's got to be a certain sense of pride running

1027
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: out there because it's one of the more one of

1028
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: the more iconic universities in the country.

1029
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: Man, what's that whole experience?

1030
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 6: Like, I mean, it's awesome, it really is.

1031
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 8: Just the first time he ran out we were playing

1032
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 8: Colorado State last season and just running out and hitting

1033
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 8: the MG blue banner. It was just an awesome feeling.

1034
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 8: And then as the season wore on. I mean, when

1035
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 8: you're in it, you don't realize the magnitude. But now

1036
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 8: that I'm out of it, you know, just it was awesome.

1037
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: These stadiums are nothing in the NFL now, Like.

1038
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 6: They still get loud, though they you're real loud in NFL.

1039
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: These stadiums get loud well because Michigan, if you've ever

1040
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: been there, it's you know, it's built down as well,

1041
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: but it's got that Rose Bowl feel because it's completely

1042
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: one section and it's open. And while there's one hundred

1043
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: thousand people there, I don't know if it's louder than

1044
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: We and Field when that thing gets cracking up.

1045
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 8: Looman is definitely louder, and the infrastructure the fans.

1046
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 6: It's all of it, all of it together. It gets

1047
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 6: real loud in looming.

1048
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 4: Now it's it's it's so cool, man. I mean, for

1049
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: those who haven't been there, I was telling you, it's

1050
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: just an experience. You got to go to a game,

1051
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: just experience because it is no one sits down. I mean,

1052
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: it's as close to a college atmosphere as you can get.

1053
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what kills me when sinners get

1054
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: penalties for looking down and looking up, looking down and

1055
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: looking up, you know, and they called a flag of

1056
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: a false start on the center, I go, what did

1057
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: he do? Do they give you an explanation about is

1058
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: there a certain technique you're supposed to do with with

1059
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: your head moving?

1060
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: Important?

1061
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: Like, how do you avoid those penalties?

1062
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 8: You avoid in best by pregame kind of going to

1063
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 8: talk to refs and looking what they're looking, what they're

1064
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 8: gonna call looking for, you know, just the different things

1065
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 8: because you know, the NFL sent out memos to the

1066
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 8: rest of certain things they want them to call just

1067
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 8: so they keep the integrity of the game. So but

1068
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 8: just having that conversation, if you try to do it

1069
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 8: after you get a penalty during the game.

1070
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 6: It's probably not gonna go, well, they're probably just gonna

1071
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: ignore you.

1072
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 8: So get them at the right situation and just talking

1073
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 8: to them and being calm, because you know, if you

1074
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 8: meet them and you're not in the calm state, no

1075
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 8: good is coming from that.

1076
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Is there like a how quick you do it?

1077
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 7: Like?

1078
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: What feedback do you get when.

1079
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: You have that conversation with the referees? Do they tell

1080
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: you look, slow it down before you snap the ball

1081
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: and you're looking and pointing, What type of feedback do.

1082
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 8: You Yeah, I mean it's definitely like they don't want

1083
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 8: the jerky movements.

1084
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 6: They want like smooth and fluid movements, so they do

1085
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 6: give you that food that feedback.

1086
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 8: Luckily, I haven't had a false start this year, so

1087
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 8: hopefully I can continue that throughout.

1088
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: They don't call anything on offensive players and except last week,

1089
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: you guys do the wildcat? Is it called the tush push?

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Speaker 4: Is that what it's called? Brotherly show? I don't know.

1091
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Speaker 4: I see the signs. I guess I just got in

1092
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 4: trouble on the air, but they called it was actually

1093
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: I think your hand that was next to the ball,

1094
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: but they called it on the guard. They got that

1095
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: one wrong, I believe. Did they get you guys an

1096
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 4: explanation on that.

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Speaker 8: We tried to get an explanation in the umpire or

1098
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 8: the deuce spot and ball. I think it was the

1099
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 8: ump he he didn't say anything. So one of one

1100
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 8: of those times, like you know, they just call a

1101
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 8: penalty and right in the heat of the moment, they're

1102
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Speaker 8: probably not gonna say nothing. They're just gonna want you

1103
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: to play the next down. But it you know, we

1104
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 8: talked about it in meetings that it was. It was

1105
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 8: a play that the rest are going to just try

1106
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 8: to you know, referee more than usual, just I guess

1107
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 8: with how will Philly has been running and how other

1108
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 8: teams probably been in the neutral zone and things of

1109
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 8: that nature.

1110
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Speaker 6: So we knew that they were gonna call it tight,

1111
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 6: but we thought we lined up correctly.

1112
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 4: They got that one wrong. Yeah, I think they saw

1113
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: your left hand which may have been in the neutral zone,

1114
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 4: but I mean the other center. I mean, you could

1115
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: have both your hands on the ball it's in the

1116
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: neutral zone or on there.

1117
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: So you just said you had no penalties. He's trying

1118
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 3: to give you one right now.

1119
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, guard on No, they called it on

1120
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Speaker 4: the guard, but I know that the guard and it

1121
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been that penalty if they had have known

1122
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 4: it was a center.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to.

1124
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 4: Be so you know, I mean, I don't mind penalties

1125
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: on offense.

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00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know, before we let you get out

1127
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: of here. Man, what's it been like in the Northwest?

1128
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: You know, I came from California, Paul came from California,

1129
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: and you make the move. You're a bit further, coach

1130
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: is a bit different.

1131
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: But how do you like it so far?

1132
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 6: I like it a lot. I haven't really got out

1133
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 6: and been able to experience.

1134
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 8: Me I'm trying new restaurants, so I guess that's my experience.

1135
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 8: But you know, just experiencing like all the outdoor stuff.

1136
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 8: I'll probably get more of that in the off season

1137
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 8: when I got more time.

1138
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 6: But you know, my brother just moved in. He's a

1139
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 6: travel nurse and he went his days off. He'd be

1140
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 6: doing a lot. He said.

1141
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 8: He loves Seattle, so and he's been a lot of

1142
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 8: different spots in the country.

1143
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: So folk go to ch'all check it out.

1144
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say Bellevue Collection with his sponsor.

1145
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: You can hang out here for a month and not

1146
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: hit every restaurant, and they're so good around here. It's

1147
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: a whole Lincoln Center as well as in Bellevue Square,

1148
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: and it's called the Bellevue Collection all the restaurants, so

1149
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: it's pretty good. Okay, So real quick, have you found

1150
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: a favorite place that you want to eat? Is that

1151
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 4: your go to that they treat you right but at

1152
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: the same time leave you alone.

1153
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 8: My favorite spot actually been to Fogo, But man, I

1154
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: like this spot called lake House. It's in Bellevue. It's

1155
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 8: a nice restaurant. On one of my teammates put me on.

1156
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 8: I've only been once because you know, it's like you said,

1157
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 8: there's so much place to eat, so I don't want

1158
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 8: to double dip. I want to just keep experiencing and

1159
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 8: find a new favorite spot. But lake House is probably

1160
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 8: the one that comes to my mind.

1161
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: It is a food different than where you grew up

1162
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 4: from Maryland or is it kind of similar.

1163
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 8: There's more options out here, that's the one thing I'll say.

1164
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 8: But growing up in the DMV, like there's so many

1165
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 8: cultures they got they have you can eat everything. But

1166
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 8: when I say there's so many options, like just with

1167
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 8: like how fresh things are, like being right next to

1168
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 8: the water and the different seafood options.

1169
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's the difference.

1170
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: All right, man. We'll let you go a Baltimore.

1171
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: They do a dance. I know what it's called. You

1172
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: do that dance when you go back home with it.

1173
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 6: Now, I'm from South Okay. They got the avenue, they

1174
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 6: got the month, they got a whole bunch.

1175
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: Of figure, a whole bunch of stuff going on out.

1176
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: There, right Are you we a command redskin fan back

1177
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: in the day, No gup of packers. Wow, that's really

1178
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 4: all there.

1179
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: You go, and you know, one more time for Olu man.

1180
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: We appreciate the time. Coming up next, but we'll go

1181
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: inside the film room. We'll look at Jackson Smith and

1182
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: Jigoba's touchdown. We got Jake Bobo's touchdown, and also Devin

1183
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: Witherspoon lighting up ron Dell Moore.

1184
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawks Live.

1185
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Hawks Live appreciated by the dining district of the Bellevue

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center, Cord Live on air on

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00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1188
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hoggs a live man.

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00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: We were just joined by Olu Olawoo, Timmy nice young man,

1190
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, nice young man. So that was signed for

1191
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: us to dive into the film room. Me and Paul

1192
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: are sitting there trying to break this thing down. The

1193
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: first play we're looking at, Geno Smith finds Jackson Smith

1194
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 2: and Jigba for a twenty eight yard touchdown, its first

1195
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: of the of his career.

1196
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 9: Mistol Formation play fake two. In this Gino's gonna throw.

1197
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 7: Quite down the scene touchdown Shay Hawks jays Man, who

1198
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 7: with the touchdowns his first career score in the National

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Speaker 7: Football League.

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00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 9: Tyler Lockett picks up the ball.

1201
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 7: He's gonna save it for the rookie out of Ohio

1202
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 7: stage twenty eight.

1203
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 9: Yards and a dark thrown by Gino Smith.

1204
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 7: The Seahawks on the board first they lead six to nothing.

1205
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: All right, So what we're seeing right here, we got

1206
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Gino and shotgun formation, got two receivers to have left

1207
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: of Gino, and then you also have no offense in

1208
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: a two point stands. You got trips essentially trips or

1209
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: tray however you want.

1210
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Speaker 3: To call it.

1211
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: And Noah Fense is the closest to the line of scrimmage.

1212
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: He releases and runs a deep cross. You can call

1213
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: it the post if you want to. Then you got

1214
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett, who runs the corner route. Then you also

1215
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: will have Jackson Smith a Jiggba who's outside of Tyler Lockett.

1216
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: He runs the post and something happens with the safety.

1217
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker doesn't flow with the post, ends up going

1218
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: with the corner up top. The safety is held by

1219
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: Noah Fence Cross and Jackson Smith and Jigba is wide open.

1220
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 3: More what you see?

1221
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: Well, you and I talked about this a bunch. I

1222
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: mean my first thought was, oh, they blew coverage, and

1223
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: then I kept watching this more and more, and I

1224
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: don't know if they're playing quarter quarter half and somebody

1225
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: screwed up the way we used to teach quarter quarter half.

1226
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: You'd run with the number three receiver down the middle

1227
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 4: of the field because that's the weakness of the defense.

1228
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 4: Middle of the field's kind of like covered to an extent.

1229
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: But then I think maybe they just said, look when

1230
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 4: we have a spread between the inside receiver and the

1231
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: outside receiver. In other words, the inside receiver threatened Buddha

1232
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: quick and Buddha said, I am now manned man with

1233
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: this guy, because that's what happens or the old days

1234
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: of quarters. If once they got you know, twelve yards downfield,

1235
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: it became manned man to you right, and then there

1236
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: would be combo things. So if all of a sudden

1237
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: there was an underneath roughout by the outside receiver, then

1238
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you would combo that guy deep

1239
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: with the corner and the So I'm almost thinking, okay,

1240
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: they have a little bit of spread between the distance

1241
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 4: of the inside guys about three or four yards ahead

1242
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 4: of JSN on the outside, and Buddha then says, I'm

1243
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 4: now manned man with him, and he turns at that

1244
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: point and so he doesn't see now JSN slide underneath

1245
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: the route and work back to the post. So I'm

1246
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: gonna give it. This was just something they gain planned

1247
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: and we're looking at it going, well, that's a bust.

1248
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: But let's look at it even more. And okay, when

1249
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: they're downfield, what do the safeties do at that point?

1250
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 4: Does it turn into man does it turn into zone

1251
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: for them? And this way they probably just said they

1252
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: turn it into man demand and we're gonna run basically

1253
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: an underneath you know, rub type of route that's deep.

1254
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if that made sense, but it's a touchdown.

1255
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: I know that to JSN and he's starting to get better.

1256
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: So that's the good part.

1257
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, man jaysaying you can see this the temple that

1258
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: he's playing with the confidence in his route running. Gino

1259
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: does a great job of finding Jackson, Smith and Jacob

1260
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: because of not being like you mentioned during the breakman

1261
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: Kobe Parkson gets beat, Gino gets hit. Nonetheless, touchdown.

1262
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: Good guys.

1263
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: This next play, Man Gino Smith finds Jake Bobbo for

1264
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: an eighteen yard touchdown in the back of the end zone.

1265
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 7: Obo comes wide to the right, his lockett slotted inside

1266
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 7: of him. On first and ten ball of the eighteen

1267
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 7: yard line. Gino again hastime looking now he's.

1268
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 9: Going to go to the end zone. Bobo's out here.

1269
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 9: Jump ball.

1270
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 7: Bobo makes a catch, but I think he's out of

1271
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 7: the end zone. He comes down with that because he

1272
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 7: has the ball in his hands.

1273
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 9: He still hasn't his hands. He's talking to the official.

1274
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 7: He caught it and he fell out of bounds, could

1275
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 7: not get that second foot in.

1276
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 9: We're looking at Pete to see if he's going to

1277
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 9: drop the red flag he's got in his hands. Now

1278
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 9: he throws it.

1279
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 7: He was waiting for the guys upstairs here to get

1280
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 7: a good look, well, while we were away, it is,

1281
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 7: in fact a touchdown by Jake Bobo from eighteen yards

1282
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 7: out one hand and got one foot in and then

1283
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 7: the toenails on his right foot.

1284
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 4: It was on on the toenails. And by the way

1285
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 4: you said early, I don't know if this is trips

1286
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: or tray or whatever. We used to Actually tray was

1287
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: when the running back was behind the center, you know

1288
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: wherever that was. In this case, it was he was

1289
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: behind the quarterback. If the back was off set to

1290
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: the trip side, we called it triple, and if he

1291
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: was off set to the weak side, we call it trips.

1292
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: So just let us defense make it way more common.

1293
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: Well, it was just so we knew that where the

1294
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: running back was in a tray type of set, and

1295
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: that was the offset or behind the line scrim Sorry,

1296
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: a little coaching lesson there for us back in the day.

1297
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: And this they line up again, three wide receivers to

1298
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: the left, and this would be triple to me because

1299
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: the back is offset to the trips the three wide

1300
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: receivers and he actually motions back to the weak side,

1301
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: which ends up in a trip's formation.

1302
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: How's that why he's trying to sound right and this

1303
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: is this route, this.

1304
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: Is this is right. The route is the same type

1305
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: of route that Bobo ran the week before when he

1306
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: got the first or maybe it was last week when

1307
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: he got the first third down conversion. It's an option

1308
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: route where he fakes like he's going to run kind

1309
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: of an in route and then all of a sudden

1310
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 4: he breaks it to the fade. So a very similar

1311
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: route for Bobo. I know he likes this route, and

1312
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: he should. He's six ' four, throw it up and

1313
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: that's a huge advantage. But this guy, he's a special kid.

1314
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1315
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: Again, he's not the fast guy in the world. Runs

1316
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: good routes. You got to get it to him relatively quick.

1317
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: But he's got really good hands, great awareness where the

1318
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: sideline is to get his his tonnail down, and that's

1319
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 4: what it was. It was a tonenail. And we argued

1320
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 4: about they're probably not going to give it to him

1321
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: because they ruled it out of bounds. As a matter

1322
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: of fact, their cornerback number twenty four, Starling Thomas the fifth.

1323
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: He's like pumping, like yeah, because he pushed Bobo we

1324
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 4: thought was out of bounds. I don't know if he

1325
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 4: was celebrating though, after when they reverse that for a touchdown.

1326
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: But great, great play and a great throw by both

1327
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: Bobo and Gino Smith.

1328
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: If you're a lesson, now give it to me. Not

1329
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: an option round. That's just a slantin go called that

1330
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: a slowgo will be option, option will be. If you

1331
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: sit at five to eighty, you have the option to

1332
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: go left or right. If you're going up the shield,

1333
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: it's a double I'm just.

1334
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: Telling you what Bobo explained what he wanted from an option.

1335
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he said option was his favorite route.

1336
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: He didn't say that wasn't option.

1337
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: He described that, But I'm not going to argue with

1338
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: the receiver he did. I agree. I think that's more

1339
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 4: of a double move like a Slanton go. But it

1340
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 4: was the same type of deal he did on that

1341
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: third down play, which he called it.

1342
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 6: It was.

1343
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: It was I digress right, Okay, next play.

1344
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 3: You'll like this one.

1345
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 4: Boy speak Spanish? You speak German.

1346
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: No, I speak Spanish. My wife is Mexican.

1347
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 4: There you go, I speak German. You got that all backwards.

1348
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: What's next, boy, we'll play. We're doing next. Devin Witherspoon

1349
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: likes Rondale moore Ye second down.

1350
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 9: And one Dobbs looking to throw he doesn't. Oh my goodness.

1351
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 9: The hit was by Witherspoon, the catch by Rondale Moore,

1352
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 9: and how you on? I have no idea.

1353
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 7: It was a good, clean, legal shoulder hit by Witherspoon

1354
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 7: on more who held on after picking up four yard

1355
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 7: Holy smoke, what a shot.

1356
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised that they didn't call that unnecessary roughness

1357
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: on that he just has a feel. Somebody asked me

1358
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: about this hit, and I said, you don't see a

1359
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 4: lot of big hits anymore. Because the target line's so small.

1360
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 4: You see a lot of what they call unnecessary roughness

1361
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: or penalty. Still big hits, but you don't see very

1362
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: many where it's clean. They don't throw the flag on it.

1363
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: And and partly, as I mentioned, the target zone so small,

1364
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: I can't have big hits, Markey. I can't hit you

1365
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: really above the shoulders. I can't.

1366
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 5: You know.

1367
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 4: I can hit you at the knee, but it's just

1368
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: uncomfortable for a defensive back to do. You have to

1369
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: have unbelievable athletic ability to do this. It's again, he's

1370
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: had more big hits already in his career than I

1371
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: did in my career doesn't have as many interceptions. That's

1372
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: why twenty one is still out there more than him

1373
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: double digit somewhere. So, but what he has from a

1374
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 4: complete game, the way he can mirror a receiver his length,

1375
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: knocking down passes, he has a lot of passes. Defense,

1376
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: he might lead the league in it, the way that

1377
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: he can intercept, and then the way he plays in

1378
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: the run game. And then to have this type of hit,

1379
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if we have a guy on our

1380
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 4: team that can do this. Jamal can to an extent,

1381
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: but Jamal didn't have that kind of quickness, you know,

1382
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: the lateral quickness like this guy does. It's just God given.

1383
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: And you know what he loves. He loves football, and

1384
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: he's one hundred and seventy five pounds. He plays like

1385
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: he's two hundred and forty pounds, and he loves knocking

1386
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: people out. It is fun.

1387
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 6: Moyer.

1388
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: You had eleven of them things, eleven interceptions six and

1389
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight.

1390
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 4: It had three call back in eighty eight to really

1391
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: hurt my feelings. Proble drop alternate should have been, should

1392
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: have been? You know, that's popularity content it is.

1393
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: It is, Paul.

1394
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: What I like about this play right here is how

1395
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: incorrect me if I'm wrong with a Spoon gets off

1396
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: of his responsibility and just plays football right. It looks

1397
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: like he might have depending on how you're playing it right.

1398
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: You might have a quart over there, or you might

1399
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: have the flat. Either way, his responsibility is the number

1400
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: one receiver. Then he flies off of that and smacks

1401
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: the number two receiver at some point in a play.

1402
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: You just got to play football right, and he sees

1403
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: the ball being thrown, he says, you know what, I'm

1404
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and make a play. That's probably my

1405
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: favorite part about this.

1406
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you brought up a really good point

1407
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 4: on this. There are some people that just don't know

1408
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 4: how to play the right distance between two different receivers

1409
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: in a route. So his guy probably messed up. He

1410
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: should have cleared him out, but he didn't. He actually

1411
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: end up hitching up as well, and so the outside

1412
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 4: receiver and Witherspoon's on the outside, his guy is receiver

1413
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 4: hitches up about five six yards. Witherspoon shuts it down,

1414
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: so he has about a five yard cushion. So in

1415
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: case the guy does run a hitch and go, or

1416
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: they bring another route tried it behind him. He's in

1417
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 4: position that he can fall off to that, but he's

1418
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: watching the quarterback too, and he's feeling the other receivers

1419
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 4: and as soon as he starts to make that throw,

1420
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 4: he is gone like a bullet. Matter of fact, Jamal

1421
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 4: is on this guy, and Jamal is like three four

1422
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: yards away because the guy is so quick on that

1423
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: out route and Witherspoon, I don't know, man, he runs

1424
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 4: a four to three, but on football field he runs

1425
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: a four to one.

1426
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, the young man can play. Okay, that was

1427
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: inside the film room. When we return, man, we're gonna

1428
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: break down and talk that tough. Make sure you come

1429
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: join his hair at Hawk Slide with the Bellvy Squares.

1430
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 3: Send the court.

1431
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: You have a chance to win gift cards when the

1432
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: Diny just got the Belvy collection tonight they're getting away

1433
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: gift cards. That focal to chau and Castilla Restaurant. All right,

1434
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: talk that talk is next right here on Hawk Slot.

1435
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Buppis and

1436
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Box Live.

1437
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: We are back Talks Live. Great conversation with a coup.

1438
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: Sun just made the Newport Select basketball team. Congratulations there,

1439
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm Michael Bamas with Paul Boy.

1440
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: Montgomery.

1441
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: You get it.

1442
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: You start talking some golf man.

1443
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: He comes back and then brings me out to Glendale.

1444
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: Did you hear that? We're good?

1445
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: So with the network? All right, man, it's time to

1446
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: talk that talk. This is when Moyer tells me that

1447
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: he's right and uh, I wrong. And I might agree

1448
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: with him every now and then sometimes we don't. So

1449
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: we go through some topics, read them off, and we

1450
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: go back and forth. You guys can clap, you can boo,

1451
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: prefer you clap even if we're wrong, and uh, and

1452
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: we'll do this thing. So first one, we got Moyer.

1453
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: Darryl Taylor will prove he can be in every down player.

1454
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 4: Well, so I got some claps out here. I think

1455
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: he's capable. I think it's gonna be challenge for him

1456
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: because we've got Frank Clark here, you got Derek Call

1457
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 4: and U. You know, Mafey has become a starter. I mean,

1458
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 4: he's he's gonna be a really good player. He's gonna

1459
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 4: have he's gonna he's gonna have competition for an every

1460
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 4: day down. But you know what I want from him,

1461
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: I want him to prove it to me.

1462
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: Now.

1463
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: We had on Bruce Irvin last year and he talked

1464
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 4: about Darryl Taylor said, guy, he he's got all the

1465
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 4: ability in the world. He's just got to want to

1466
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: Does he want to be on the field every day

1467
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 4: to challenge him? And Uh, this is his time, man,

1468
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: this is his contract year. Uh, he's gonna have the

1469
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: opportunity to start and he'll be on the field every

1470
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: down until he proves.

1471
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: He can't be. That's a good point because guys tend

1472
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: to turn it up a little bit when it's time

1473
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: for them to get paid. And it's weird how happened

1474
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: for him. Right at Jenna will Sue is gone. He

1475
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: has to be the next guy up, especially this week,

1476
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: because I don't expect him to play h Frank Clark

1477
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: every single down or because the Tenda was getting sixty

1478
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: seven percent of snaps. There's no way Frank is gonna

1479
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: get that right. So let's see what d DT can do.

1480
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: So is that a yes or no?

1481
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I'm gonna read that again. You said,

1482
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: Darren Turber prove he can be an everyday player. I'm

1483
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: gonna say, yeah. I think he's gonna he's gonna prove it.

1484
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's gonna be on the field

1485
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: every down, but I think he'll prove that he's capable

1486
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 4: of it. All right, I'm with you there, all right,

1487
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 4: Number two. This guy's playing as good as anybody we

1488
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: have on the field right now. It's been I don't

1489
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: think anybody of assault because of the injury so late

1490
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 4: in last year. Then that's Jordan Brooks. But if you

1491
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: go and watch the tape, that guy is an All

1492
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 4: Pro player. The question is Jordan Books. Will he get

1493
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: All Pro recognition this season?

1494
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, man, I'm trying to pull up real quick.

1495
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: Just who's up there?

1496
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: Because all Pro is voted on by your peers. Correct.

1497
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: Pro bo is more of the fans or whatever.

1498
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 4: It's the thirds and however they do that.

1499
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: And when I think of all Pro in the NFL.

1500
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: All probe might be the media too well, Writers' Association.

1501
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he should, but I don't think he

1502
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 2: will because you know how they do the Seattle Seahawks.

1503
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,480
Speaker 2: You're tucked away up here for some reason, you get overlooked.

1504
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Unless this defense cracks like the top eight when it

1505
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: comes to overall, then I think he'll start getting more love.

1506
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say no, but I think that he

1507
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 2: is playing at that level and we will continue to

1508
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: play at that level. But because of just just the

1509
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: politics around it just seems like the always I don't

1510
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: want to say the word get overlooked when it comes

1511
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: to awards like that.

1512
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 4: Well, I think his biggest challenge will be because of

1513
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: the popularity of Bobby Wagner. So Bobby's gonna have one

1514
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five tackles again this year. He plays

1515
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of the snaps. Jordan will probably be

1516
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 4: right there with him. But if you take number of

1517
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 4: snack productivity telling you Jordan will get there, you know

1518
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 4: what it's gonna take. I truly believe this. It's gonna

1519
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: take Pete and take some lobbying, and it's gonna take

1520
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner saying that guy deserves to be all Pro,

1521
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: he deserves to be in the Pro Bowl. He's playing

1522
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 4: like it, and he needs the recognition that he deserves.

1523
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: You think Bobby's gonna have to sacrifice himself.

1524
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 4: A little bit this man, Yep, I do, because it's

1525
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 4: so Look, Bobby's playing well, and once you've been All

1526
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 4: Pro as long as you continue to play well. You

1527
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 4: don't have to be the best linebacker. You just have

1528
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: to continue to play well because you're gonna get those votes.

1529
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: And the writers they're not watching it, and then they're

1530
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 4: looking at ackles, right, they're not looking at impact plays

1531
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 4: and the type of hits and him covering sideline, the sideline,

1532
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 4: and I mean, look, he's really good. And now here's

1533
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 4: the other. I know Bobby probably deserves it too. I'm

1534
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 4: not taking anythingway from Bobby right now. He's playing the

1535
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 4: best I've seen him play in four years. But I

1536
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: think a lot has to do with Jordan, has a

1537
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: lot to do with our front right now. And you know,

1538
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 4: if you're not a top ten defense, hard to get

1539
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 4: two of those guys nominated.

1540
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy, the top duos in the league

1541
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: when it comes to linebackers, both of them might be

1542
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: in NFC West where Fred Warner and Greenlaw and with

1543
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner.

1544
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: And Joe Jordan Brooks. I totally agree with that.

1545
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough, all right.

1546
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: Next one, Miles Garrett won't have more than one sack

1547
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

1548
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: My Man has seven and a half on the year.

1549
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 4: Boy.

1550
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 3: Not more than one, right, not more than one.

1551
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,480
Speaker 4: I am gonna say.

1552
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 7: No.

1553
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get too yep, and they'll and

1554
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you the why real quick, all right.

1555
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 4: I think the reason why is I'm watching the game

1556
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 4: we're going to have to play. Gino cannot mess around.

1557
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 4: The ball has got to come out unless we maximum

1558
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 4: protect it. And we take some shots downfield that that

1559
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: pocket up the middle collapses. And then and Miles Garrett

1560
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: they do sometimes again they'll bring they'll force our guard

1561
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 4: down and they'll create space. Charles Cross versus versus Garrett,

1562
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 4: that's a tough task in itself, and that's okay, recognize it.

1563
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 4: Get rid of the football right and Cross will hold

1564
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 4: him off and he canna hold him off for three

1565
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 4: four seconds. So that's one and in two. They also

1566
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: are really good at collapse in the pocket. And if

1567
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: Gino doesn't get rid of the ball, Gino's not a

1568
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 4: step up in the pocket.

1569
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: Guy.

1570
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 4: I don't think you can retreat on this guy. He's

1571
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 4: too quick, he's too strong. You don't want to give

1572
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: this guy time. You got, you gotta get rid of

1573
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: the ball. So I just think this game is gonna

1574
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 4: be tight. We're gonna have to throw the ball to win.

1575
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be opportunities for Garrett to get

1576
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: two socks.

1577
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: I think everything you just described goes.

1578
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: Back to your point to where you think that it's

1579
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: gonna be a low scoring game. You gotta be patient

1580
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: and play the field position because you're describing Geno having

1581
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: to get the full ball out quickly, and we know

1582
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: that Gino is more exupposed to plays or when he

1583
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: can pat the ball a couple of times, they let

1584
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: things develop and take his shots.

1585
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you there too.

1586
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 5: Man.

1587
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: I think Miles Garrett he's just that good. He can

1588
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: get two or three sacks and the Hawks can still

1589
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: win this game. It's just about when he gets it.

1590
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: It can't be the final drive. You're down three and

1591
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: you need to make something happen.

1592
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of other good ones here. I

1593
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 4: was gonna go with this one, but I'm gonna change mine,

1594
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: all right. I'm gonna change the Seahawks. And by the way,

1595
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: two weeks ago, I would not have brought this something.

1596
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 4: The Seahawks have a legit shot to compete with San

1597
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 4: Francisco for.

1598
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: The NFC West San Francisco five and two.

1599
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 4: We're four into four and two game loss of.

1600
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: Two game skit. Sam Darnold's at quarterback. They got the

1601
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Bengals this week. Let's see what the Niners do against

1602
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals. I'm gonna say, yes, they do have a

1603
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: legit chance. If the Niners did not drop two in

1604
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: a row, obviously.

1605
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: It'd be a different story.

1606
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: Right.

1607
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: But I think because they dropped two and because of

1608
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: the injuries, I think they're in there.

1609
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 3: We'll say you, I.

1610
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: Think they have a chance to elevate again.

1611
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 5: Right.

1612
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 4: They have really come back to the pack. I think

1613
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 4: a lot of it is pretty because he's forced to

1614
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 4: make big throws and they found his weakness and he's

1615
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to adjust to it. They're massively talented. But

1616
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 4: if we get past and so my answer quick answership, yes,

1617
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: well we beat Cleveland this weekend, I'm a definite.

1618
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's get it done this weekend. Man,

1619
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: that was talk, that talk.

1620
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't know who won that.

1621
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 4: There's a tie.

1622
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: It's a tie.

1623
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: All right. When we come back, we'll get our show recap.

1624
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: In final thoughts, the key to victory. That is next

1625
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: right here on Hawk's lot.

1626
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by that dining District of the Bellevue

1627
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, live on air on

1628
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1629
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: You are listening to Talks Live. It's the final segment.

1630
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: We got our soldiers out here. I salute all of

1631
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: our fans. It went from five hundred to about one

1632
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: to fifty.

1633
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a good one fas good one fift

1634
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, it's it's the people. It's kind

1635
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: of like at a wedding. Everybody there is the people

1636
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: I want there right. How you feeling about this weekend?

1637
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 4: I'm honest, honest, you I just having a No one's listening,

1638
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 4: no one's me. How you feeling.

1639
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm nervous.

1640
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: I am nervous about this game for a couple of reasons.

1641
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Backup quarterbacks play their ends off against this team. McCoy

1642
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: Wolford Purdy at the time, we're trying to figure out

1643
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 2: if he was legit or not.

1644
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: So you got PJ. Comedy.

1645
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: He hasn't completed a touchdown yet. But the thing that

1646
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 2: always keeps you in the game is your side of

1647
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: the ball.

1648
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: It's defense. Right my side of the ball.

1649
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: You can score forty five points, but someone can score

1650
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: forty seven, and you have to be more efficient. Right,

1651
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: There's more pressure when you got to go shot for shot.

1652
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: When you got a defense that can go in there

1653
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: and make a play for you and keep you in

1654
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: the game and shutdown on offense. Those are the teams

1655
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: that scare me the most. So I look at this

1656
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: matchup and I say, all right, if Gina was playing

1657
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: a bit better off these last two games, I might

1658
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: feel better about it. If we didn't just have our

1659
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: first one hundred yard game Russian, I might feel better

1660
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: about it. We've only had one receiver have over one

1661
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: hundred yards this year, So I look at just what

1662
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 2: the offense has and haven't been doing. Struggling in the

1663
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: red zone only thirty six percent on third downs. I go,

1664
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: this is this is set up for the Cleveland Browns

1665
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: to play a really good football game. So I'm nervous.

1666
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: I think the Hawks can get it done, but I'm nervous.

1667
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about it?

1668
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's I was going to ask you a follow

1669
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 4: up question on what is the best matchup for us?

1670
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: And you know, in the old days, you know, during

1671
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl runs. I'm like, let's play a week

1672
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: offense great excuse me, a great offense week defense, because

1673
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 4: our defense was so good and you know, as long

1674
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 4: as we could put some points on the board, twenty

1675
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: plus points, I think we're good. I think this is

1676
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: that game too. You know, if we can get to

1677
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: twenty points, I feel pretty good about this one. I mean,

1678
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 4: they're backup, they're starting, and backup running backer looks like

1679
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 4: they're boat well. I know one of them's out. Probably

1680
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: both are out. You know, you got a backup quarterbacks,

1681
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 4: not a great thrower. They've won two games, but not

1682
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: because of him. I just this game. The reason why

1683
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: it makes me nervous is I think Hugh or Houston,

1684
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: I think Cleveland can force us into some distress where

1685
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: we're trying to force things and maybe turn the ball

1686
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 4: over and that can't happen. And I you know, again,

1687
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 4: Gino's played really well, but he's had like two bad

1688
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: decisions the last two games in each game. We can't

1689
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: have those two bad ones. You know, he cannot say, oh,

1690
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 4: I think that I'm going to force that that can't happen.

1691
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 4: The other one for me is Gino last year had

1692
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdowns when the ball traveled more than twenty yards

1693
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 4: in the air. We've got one this year, right, and

1694
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 4: we've got to score some easy ones. I just again,

1695
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 4: I don't see us having a bunch of long drives.

1696
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 4: I think this is probably one of those games you

1697
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 4: have six seven punts each win with some field goals,

1698
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: a timely touchdown here there, and you know, hopefully you

1699
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: force a couple turnovers to make it easy for our offense.

1700
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: If you're the Cleveland Browns, are you bringing pressure and

1701
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: manning up on the back end.

1702
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 4: Well, that's what they do, uh, And like they're not

1703
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: blitzing a lot. I mean they can rush with four guys.

1704
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 4: They'll do a lot of five man rush though, and

1705
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: you see them, they'll they'll play their right corner. I

1706
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 4: think it's sorry, I'm trying to visualize now, the right corner,

1707
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 4: whatever corner. He'll play a lot of man. He don't care,

1708
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 4: you don't care who he's on. Safety's not cheating over

1709
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 4: that way. He's up and bump. And if we got those,

1710
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 4: we got to take the shot. And you know we

1711
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 4: got height advantage with both DK and maybe you do

1712
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 4: a bobo one. I think JSN has some opportunity. I

1713
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: mean to I mean, we got lots of guys, we

1714
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 4: got duesc I don't know if he's gonna play. They

1715
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 4: played really well in camp and in the preseason. We

1716
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 4: were really excited.

1717
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 3: Before I forgot about D. D is activated.

1718
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: I heard you say that on a Whyman and Bob

1719
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: show today that D is activated.

1720
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: Where does he fit?

1721
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: Is there even room for D right now in this

1722
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: receiving group?

1723
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's room. You know, you're gonna carry

1724
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 4: five white, five wide receivers. So maybe Cody's down Uh

1725
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: at that point, I don't know. I mean they're gonna

1726
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 4: have to look at the special teams. Maybe they don't

1727
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 4: activate him this week. Maybe it's you know, another week

1728
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 4: down the road, because you know he's got to get

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Speaker 4: his football legs on him too. But he's explosive and

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01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you want to go for wide outs.

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01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: You know there's you got two pretty good slot guys

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 4: right there. DK is not one hundred percent. You know,

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01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with having a lot of good athletes

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 4: out there and spreading it around. And we already know

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01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 4: this last week DK was out, Gino was more to us.

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw it where the defense isn't right

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: rather than I gotta go here right. And that's why

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 4: he's at his best and when he's not forcing to somebody.

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01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: But we are gonna have to take some shots downfield,

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 4: and I don't know how much time DK is gonna

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01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 4: get though.

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: All right, real quick, before we get out of here,

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Speaker 2: Will you be wearing the throwback Paul moy yeazy on Sunday.

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll be seeing that. You'll be seeing the big

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 4: shoulder shoulder pads sure, which weird. My wife wore my

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 4: jersey not that long ago, and I go, how did

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 4: I get in that thing with shoulder pads tight? I mean,

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 4: it'll be tight on me now, and you know, and

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 4: I like to think I'm okay right now, but that

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01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 4: just shows how fit we were about that back in

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01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: those days.

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01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: Man, I won't put mine on.

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01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring an extra one.

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: Just for you.

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: I'll wear for you, all right.

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Speaker 2: Special things to Miles Adams and olda Olawood to.

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Speaker 3: Me for joining the show.

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Speaker 2: Our board operator as Max Strober, on site engineer is

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Speaker 2: the lovely Brendan Rodgers. Production assistant as Shaunce Sanderson. Our

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Speaker 2: execut the producer is Nasa Trobe. This year's Preakin Show

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Speaker 2: is live this Sunday, starting at ten am. Until next time.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Michael Bumpus with Paul More Yeasy. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back next week right here on Hawk's Live