WEBVTT - The "Vlad TV" Episode

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie

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<v Speaker 1>Right Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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<v Speaker 1>material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang

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<v Speaker 1>gun and um, they believe this might be in retaliation

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<v Speaker 1>to our testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Alex Alonso and you may be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of my platform street TV, which is an extension of

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<v Speaker 1>the o G website street gangs dot Com where we

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<v Speaker 1>interview o G s, former and current gang members, hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop artists, authors and entertainers, and other influencers. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing my two co hosts, right, James McDonald. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>got Reggie Right Junior and James McDonald in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is episode fifteen. And if you're new to

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<v Speaker 1>for you Samsung and Android users, were on Spotify and

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<v Speaker 1>on radio dot Com. So we're gonna start off real

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<v Speaker 1>quickly with some fact checking, and we actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest in the house. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>our special guest, let me just get through some of

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<v Speaker 1>these uh fact checks from last week and the week before. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>on episode thirteen, we had Chico Brown and according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Corners report on Gary Webb, Gary Webb was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that Chico told us about that kind of broke

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the CIA and freeway Ricky Ross. But

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this quote that was in the Corners report.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unusual in a suicide case to have two shots,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has been done in the past, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>in fact a distinct possibility. And that was from Gary Webb,

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<v Speaker 1>who officially, they said he committed suicide on December ten,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand four, at the age of forty nine. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie James, what y'all think of that had two shots?

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, but it's unlikely. Well, how possible is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two shots were at in the head, two

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<v Speaker 1>shots in the hand, two shots in the head, not possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Not possible. Well now, and unless you did it with

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<v Speaker 1>a Dinager shot, but you still got a cool got

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<v Speaker 1>back twice with a Dinager, So that's impossible. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>corners trying to play both sides. I think he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it was a homicide, but he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>saying this is very unusual to have two bullet holes.

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<v Speaker 1>And where he got to say a homicide? What other

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<v Speaker 1>way would you go with that? I mean, ain't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to just do kill the self twice? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna homicide. That's suicide. Yeah, suicide, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie that Frank Lucas was in there, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say last uh or two weeks ago? That was American

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<v Speaker 1>Gangster came out in two thousand seven. Uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on episode fourteen, um, Reggie's correct the police that we're

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<v Speaker 1>standing around Orlando Anderson at the MGM. That was after

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<v Speaker 1>the fact situation. I checked that out. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>as already curd when I saw him standing there. He

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<v Speaker 1>was standing there pretty much explaining to them, Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>had just happened. So yeah, that was my bag on

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<v Speaker 1>that one, and I kind of didn't you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never watched the MGM video from beginning to end in

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<v Speaker 1>its proper order. I've always assumed that Orlando Anderson was

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<v Speaker 1>standing there talking to the police before the rat pack.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my same, okay. And also I want to

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<v Speaker 1>throw in that the video does not show tray Von

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<v Speaker 1>Lane and pox Ear when Pocket is going through the law.

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<v Speaker 1>The video didn't show a lot of ship. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>What id iss in the video is that one security

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<v Speaker 1>guard out of law was trying to break it up

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<v Speaker 1>in the white shirt. The security for m Jim was

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, actually on top of Nando's back. They

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<v Speaker 1>actually that that security guard actually came and testified as

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<v Speaker 1>ship probation violation here. And so if anybody that's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really care, y'all can pull up that transcer up

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<v Speaker 1>and all and get that testimony from the security offs. Alrighty,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get onto our special guest of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has probably one of the most viewed platforms

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet. He's probably got more subscribers in this

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<v Speaker 1>genre than any other platform on the Internet. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>over two billion views, that's whether it be billion views.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're here with no other than Mr vladd from

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<v Speaker 1>lad TV, a k A. DJ LAD right, what name

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<v Speaker 1>are you going by? DJ VLAD LAD lad TV, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call somewhere, as long as the Vlad

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<v Speaker 1>brand is there, whatever, we appreciate you coming down on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. And you know, also, you know, Regge and

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<v Speaker 1>James definitely made this happen because they've been on your

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<v Speaker 1>platform and they've been responsible for tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>views combined, more than that Reggie and James combined view count.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that about? I mean, I know that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>last time Mob James was on, we did a quick

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<v Speaker 1>count and it was like eleven million for his first interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and Reggie's been on a couple of times, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the five million range something like that. That's incredible to

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<v Speaker 1>two guys responsible for over sixteen seventeen million views possibly

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<v Speaker 1>and still and still counting, still still counting every day.

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<v Speaker 1>When I watched video done by Superhand and she had

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<v Speaker 1>three point three million just on one of hers like WHOA. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>You're most viewed video is actually a music video? Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we sometimes put music videos for certain artists. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your most viewed interview video? Ah Man mondily enough? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a slim Jesus interviews. That's the white

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<v Speaker 1>from the Midwest. It's ten million views. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>one one it Yeah, and whatever happened is in Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard from he's still, you know, doing this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I mean I haven't spoken to them in

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<v Speaker 1>some years. Now, okay, Man, I got a prediction though,

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<v Speaker 1>got even video gonna do better than Keep You ds.

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<v Speaker 1>Guarantee you you think. I think maybe, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people want to hear about what keep You do?

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<v Speaker 1>You got the shade ring into the Chambe. He did

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<v Speaker 1>one one episode. When I think when you start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the ship and ship crying and stuff, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I got like two almost three hundred thousand vials in

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<v Speaker 1>one day in time period. Well, let's start off with um,

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<v Speaker 1>keep you d Man, since that's the hot topic on

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<v Speaker 1>the table. I know you don't want to reveal too

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<v Speaker 1>much because the way you do your videos, you put

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<v Speaker 1>out I don't know thirty different clips one guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that means it's keep you D. Won't be done

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<v Speaker 1>for about I don't know, two three weeks maybe. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's gonna be going through the whole month, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole month, think it's twenty something clips. Can you reveal

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<v Speaker 1>us reveal anything interesting about the keep D interview? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it just started to day. Um. Really it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a vlad interview. You know, so if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the way I do my interviews with guests for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, it's kind of like a biopic in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, where it tells your story from the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to where we are today. So you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>clip that started today talked about how his family moved

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<v Speaker 1>into Compton and how white flight started to take a

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<v Speaker 1>hold during that time, some of the racist stuff he

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<v Speaker 1>he uh kind of dealt with, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gets into the gang situation, uh in Compton, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how he got jumped by a couple of bloods when

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<v Speaker 1>he was a kid. And the next clip is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into you know, how we joined the south

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<v Speaker 1>Side Compton crips and how he kind of started his

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<v Speaker 1>criminal enterprise and you know, leading to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>Tupox situation and afterwards. I think that's the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>part of keypd story is his connection to the homicide

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<v Speaker 1>of Tupox cor And I'm assuming you pulled no punches

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<v Speaker 1>on that. If you've ever seen a vlad TV interview,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how how I conducted. I mean, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some interviews where you could have asked some more, UF

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<v Speaker 1>could have win any more. And I think maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>put the brakes on a couple of times. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you put the brakes on. Uh when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Keep You D and and Tupac's Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sensitive topic asking somebody about a murder that they

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in, and that doesn't come up. And most

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<v Speaker 1>of your interviews as much, you can't really say. But

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<v Speaker 1>what he got to remember? He can only say what

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<v Speaker 1>us in the book because if he go saying different ship,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna hurt him in the long run. So he

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to and and it might be hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get the real ship out of Keep You D. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that's paying attention and watching this

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<v Speaker 1>interview might be saying, oh, this dude full of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But they admitted everything to kayten. But but that was

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<v Speaker 1>under a prophet agreement. Yeah, that's a big difference. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just him being on lad Black can get

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<v Speaker 1>it out of him like you do with everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that you got a good interview going. But if

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<v Speaker 1>if keep you d come off on some bullshit, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else going to read into it because man, we just

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<v Speaker 1>do they't being truthful or this dude he not, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to tell the truth. So but he put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the book if for those who read his book,

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<v Speaker 1>he basically outlines what happened that day pretty much almost

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<v Speaker 1>the same as he told Cating, with uh slight modification

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<v Speaker 1>of Pock having a weapon, I think was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>change in the story that he gave Cating. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that part and uh, you know, without giving me

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<v Speaker 1>too much away, there are some nuances in the story

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<v Speaker 1>that in my interview that's slightly different than what he

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<v Speaker 1>said in the book. Is a slightly different also from

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<v Speaker 1>what he told Cating under that um admission, slightly different.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got some new stuff, is basically what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different. Um, you know, but we used the book

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a blueprint. Oh how we're how we

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<v Speaker 1>conducted that interview, and what did you think when you

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<v Speaker 1>first read that he put a gun in hand? Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I thought was, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to rewrite history to make it look like

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<v Speaker 1>a self defense. You know, if somebody pulls out a

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<v Speaker 1>gun and you, you know, on you first, and you

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<v Speaker 1>end up shooting and taking their life, doesn't sound quite

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as what most people know the story to

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly. And I told you about three episodes ago

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he did that. But in twenty some years,

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<v Speaker 1>we've never heard that story before because he got legal

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<v Speaker 1>people in his ear. Now publishers and writers and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that kind of question these credibility it questions some things,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the whole, the whole entire, the gest of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's still on the street. Well, not only did

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<v Speaker 1>it don't matter because of that, but it don't matter

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<v Speaker 1>because he puts himself at in the car and he

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<v Speaker 1>takes the away from me. The conspirators is out there

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<v Speaker 1>to see, Uh, this person did it, or Reggie did it,

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<v Speaker 1>or Sharita had somebody to do it, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that book or the cop did it. I actually interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Carroll, who was the first responder in Vegas, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about the conspiracy theory. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he would need a corpse riding around on a bicycle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in order to switch it real quick with

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<v Speaker 1>like like I when you're talking about the people. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different brands actually confirmed the injury that

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar had on his head that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>thought Sugar was exaggerating coming on he was just spurting

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<v Speaker 1>out of blood. Yeah, and a lot of time, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people didn't believe stories. Should believe to this

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<v Speaker 1>day that there's a fragment in this here in this hand.

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<v Speaker 1>He really believes that should believe you got a metal

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<v Speaker 1>plate in this hear too they you didn't get no surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't have surgery on that on that because if

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<v Speaker 1>you did, you just stayed in the hospital. Wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been We all know it's great, some type of pragmant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was crazy. But my question is how

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about the keep you D interview with you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel with the KEYP E D interview, it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes along with the storyline that I've been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>for the last fifteen years that you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that the jumping of Orlando triggered a chain

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<v Speaker 1>of events that ended Tupac's life. That the people that

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<v Speaker 1>I've always heard were involved are the people that are involved.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no conspiracy, there is no government, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no sugar making, you know, trying to put a hit

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<v Speaker 1>out on somebody. The most obvious answer, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>went and jumped a guy who was a dangerous individual.

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<v Speaker 1>Every interview that that has a long history that was

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<v Speaker 1>being investigated from multiple murders at the time. Uh, no

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever painted Orlando as a soft guy or a

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<v Speaker 1>wanna be or anything of that sort. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>hitter in his neighborhood and it's set off a chain

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<v Speaker 1>of events that never should happen. Exactly. Well, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a question regard and keep you d because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with this guy on and off since last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could never get him to come on my

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<v Speaker 1>platform because he's constantly asking for money. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid for any time he opened his mouth. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you had to do some give him some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of uh, you know, dangle something in front of

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<v Speaker 1>him to get him to come on your platform, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know this dude, He's not coming on anyone's show

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<v Speaker 1>doing an interview, So how did you get him? We

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<v Speaker 1>work something out. You can't talk about it worth about alright,

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<v Speaker 1>last said he works something out. We works something out. Cool. Cool, alright. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about the way you you

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<v Speaker 1>put your videos out. I guess when you divide your

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half hour interview into these segments, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all for the purpose of maximizing the view count. Well

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<v Speaker 1>two things. It is there to maximize the view kind

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<v Speaker 1>of obviously running business, so we want to make as

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<v Speaker 1>much revenue off of our product as possible. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think more importantly is to focus on the aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the different parts of that interview. Like if I just

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<v Speaker 1>put mob James interview and just threw it out just

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it would not get nearly the type of

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<v Speaker 1>response as it would have gotten the way I broke

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<v Speaker 1>it down, Like here is the part about losing his

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother, you know what I mean, Let's just put

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<v Speaker 1>that part by itself and let people just understand the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of this part. Here's the part about you know

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<v Speaker 1>how you know how the relationship with should have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's the easy situation. Here's you know, the fallout,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's all these different parts that I believe deserve

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<v Speaker 1>their own platform, you know that, their own peace. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the main reason why I do do it

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<v Speaker 1>the way I do. Otherwise so much would get lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the shuffle of it all. And who really sits

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a phone for an hour and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the main way that people consume YouTube videos?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you look at your analytics every day and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually wish your average minute retention per video? It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say because you know, the minutes range from

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<v Speaker 1>five to sometimes fifteen minutes um, but about half of

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<v Speaker 1>that so maybe three to five minutes on average. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed on my channel my average video retention is

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes and like forty five seconds. But I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>out a ten minute video, I'll put out a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>minute video. But does that mean most people aren't watching

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<v Speaker 1>the entire twelve minutes? Right? And you know most people?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you look at that, some people are

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<v Speaker 1>watching the whole thing and some people are clicking off

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<v Speaker 1>after two seconds, So you've got to take that into account.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, I'm not sure. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>look at that per se. I don't really look at uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we get more views, we also get

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<v Speaker 1>more minutes watched. Those go those usually go hand in hand,

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<v Speaker 1>but mostly we want to focus on specific parts. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of sort of like what happens on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>these days. You know, if there's a hot interview that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out, the hottest one minute is gonna be all

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<v Speaker 1>over your timeline. But we've been doing that from the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning. We've been finding the hottest five minutes here,

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes here, three minutes here, and we just keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing it over and over again. Now, I said this

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<v Speaker 1>last week when we announced that you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a guest, that you're only going to interview individuals

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<v Speaker 1>that you know are going to bring numbers in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of views, not just some guy that's out there with

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<v Speaker 1>a mixtape, for example. And I was just making a

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<v Speaker 1>distinction because, for example, you interviewed stupid Young Cambodie and

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Long Beach, but only after he started buzzing,

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<v Speaker 1>after he did us on with Mazzi. I interviewed Stupid

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<v Speaker 1>Young six years ago, and no one ever heard about

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<v Speaker 1>the guy you know and um, and and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference in Uh, I guess our platforms are.

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed people who aren't well known. I interviewed people

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<v Speaker 1>that I see something in. But correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have never interviewed stupid young six years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when he didn't have a name. Probably not, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>some it's like a symbiotic relationship, right, Like we have

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<v Speaker 1>a platform and we introduce people to that platform, but

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<v Speaker 1>we want those people to have a fan base already

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<v Speaker 1>that will come to our platform, so new people will

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<v Speaker 1>come to our platform as well, you know. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a it's a situation where we'll both help

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<v Speaker 1>each other most times, especially when it comes to artists

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<v Speaker 1>and music and stuff like that. You know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is why we never accept payment for interviews. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've turned on offers because it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I could put you on my platform, no one will

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, you know, it really doesn't matter unless the

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<v Speaker 1>story is completely insane or something of that sort. But

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<v Speaker 1>you want to focus on your music, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a fan base yet, so putting you out

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<v Speaker 1>there is not really gonna help you. And it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of a waste, a waste of our time

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<v Speaker 1>potentially to our viewers who have no idea who you are. Either. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I interviewed uh stupid young and no one

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<v Speaker 1>new him. And I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>his video has got over a million views, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just some unknown Cambodian kid banging Asian boys from Long Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think you never know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get. You never know, and uh, that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>made it. Well, you know, and and people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain stages in your career where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to use different platforms to help you get there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like people turn us down because we

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<v Speaker 1>feel we're not a big enough platform. Who turns you down?

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<v Speaker 1>We get turned down every day. Everyone who would't want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn down a platform that has radio. We We've

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<v Speaker 1>never done a Chris Brown interview, We've never done an

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<v Speaker 1>eminem video. You've never done jay Z. You can't understand

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z turn you down. You know. I did Kindie

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time ago and he was first starting,

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't come back. I did Nikki kind of early on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's never come back. You know it happens. We understand

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<v Speaker 1>you think Cardi will come back. You did Cardio Carti twice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't come back. We've tried, you know, becauseptimes people

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<v Speaker 1>reach a certain level. Now the only one to do

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<v Speaker 1>Good Morning America. Well, I think once you're super super

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<v Speaker 1>a list, any sort of YouTube platform is probably quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote beneath the artist. I mean it depends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a major artist that's about to do an

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<v Speaker 1>interview on a on a YouTube platform. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>who it is because a friend of mine, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it really depends, and I think that, I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to change that because you know, you see these

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<v Speaker 1>artists will do like a major radio station. They'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it out and get like a thousand views, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we had that artist will get you know, five million

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<v Speaker 1>views easy. So it just depends. Um, you did Cardi

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<v Speaker 1>early on once she only had her mixtape. Yeah before

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<v Speaker 1>that was before after before Okay, so you saw something

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<v Speaker 1>in her. She really wasn't doing huge numbers, but she

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<v Speaker 1>she was big on social media though her social media

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<v Speaker 1>numbers were big. And then she's on the TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on Love and Hip Hop as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and like she was already she was signed to

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<v Speaker 1>I think Atlantic, so you know, her her music was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get you know, it was serious enough for

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<v Speaker 1>a major label to sign her, and you know they

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<v Speaker 1>saw something over there. So we we do experiment with

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<v Speaker 1>certain types of people in certain to guests and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it works out and it becomes you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we were the first ones to ever interview me. Goes

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<v Speaker 1>back before you know, Drake did Versace and that was

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<v Speaker 1>their first ever interview, and that that worked out really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you interview people and you know that becomes really

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<v Speaker 1>their only interview. I'm surprised how successful cardib has become

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few years. And I came from loving

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, but it like I never thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>a great artist, but I think she has grown over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. She has certainly um impressed me with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of her songs, but I could have never imagined

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<v Speaker 1>the success that she would have reached, you know, once

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<v Speaker 1>she got her teeth fix them all right. So you

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<v Speaker 1>often get criticized for your fascination with gangster stuff, like

0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you love to interview about cripp and blood stories, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you ask every single person from l

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<v Speaker 1>a about the crack co Can epidemic. Does it ever

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<v Speaker 1>get tired to you to ask these same questions? No, not,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all, Not at all. I think there's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a fascination with the outlaw culture. Uh, definitely in America,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the world. And you know, I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties, but I didn't grow up around that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd already I only saw stuff like that

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<v Speaker 1>in movies. And you know what I'm saying, Like with

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<v Speaker 1>the prison culture, I grew up watching American media. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never gone to prison, you know at that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was uh, you know, romanticized to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I ended up doing an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>American Gangster h for BT on Mac Dre and The

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<v Speaker 1>rom Room in two thousand six season one, season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah maybe maybe maybe. I mean it was two thousand eight,

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<v Speaker 1>season three. It was the last season. They end up

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>canceling it afterwards. Um, but yeah, I did the Matt

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Dre episode of American Gangster and I was given an

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<v Speaker 1>actual budget and real cameraman and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw that finished product, I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want to do something like that. But you know,

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>American Gangster was going away, So I kind of did

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<v Speaker 1>it on my own platform, and I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>like lad TV is sort of a natural progression of

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<v Speaker 1>American Gangster, and you know, we try to do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the best job that we can with the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>budgets that we have to to recreate those types of stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you consider your platform hip hop oriented? Because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people that you do that have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with hip hop. They're just pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>like crime characters. I mean, it's also you know, financial

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>characters like Grant card Own who owns one point two

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<v Speaker 1>billion in property, or you know, we interviewed Jay Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>another real estate guy, or we've interviewed uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm X's daughter, or you know, Black Panthers or Nation

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<v Speaker 1>Islam figures and so forth. So do those videos do

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<v Speaker 1>well even though there is an expectation that vlad is

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover something to do with hip hop, But

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<v Speaker 1>when you go outside of that, do those videos perform

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<v Speaker 1>as well as expected? Uh? Some do, some don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we interviewed uh, two members of the Central Park five

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago, and that was like the only look

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<v Speaker 1>in the hip hop space really that I even know of.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two years later you have this blockbuster TV series. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>some pimps. Yeah, there's Pimps, Magic Juan Film or slam Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we jump around a lot. We jump around

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of times. It's just like what am

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<v Speaker 1>I personally interested in and who would I like to

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<v Speaker 1>have an hour and a half conversation with and we

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of take it from there. And since I

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<v Speaker 1>owned the company, I just make the final decision every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to clear it by anybody or or

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<v Speaker 1>get an approval or anything of that sort. And I

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.959
<v Speaker 1>think we all at some point, I've watched one of

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>his interviews, right, James, Um, I mean you've been on

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<v Speaker 1>the channel now twice. Ye, Jenny, don't even watch his

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>own interviews. I haven't watched any of them. But you know,

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I just listened to how people talk and and and

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<v Speaker 1>I say it all the time, you speak this way

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of black. But when I'm ownish, when when I did

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>those interviews with him, I don't. I don't sit there

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and feel like I'm being leading into answer a question

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>or if I'm getting the same question five or six times.

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just a straight up interview. And to

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>each his own Every person that get interviewed has I mean,

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>say what you say. If you don't want to say it,

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't say it or answer the question. So how

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>can you blame blad for you opening you goddamn mouf

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and saying the wrong goddamn thing. No, that's that's that's

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>not his fault. So everybody has a right to say

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>what they say until their own opinion. And and and

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, listening to those guys that say, oh Black

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>put me in the bag, or or he trying to

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>get us to go against each other, me personally, don't

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>see that me personally have to didn't have to deal

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>with nothing like that, or or feel that, oh man,

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he just asked me too much, or felt like you know,

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm mean, he put me in the sweat box. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Every every both interviews I did

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>where I mean, I'm just as comfortable as I am

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>now you know what I'm saying. And there was no

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>kicking your leg and and twitching up the eyes say no,

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that ain't what I want you to say, or can

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>you repeat what you just said? Well, I think you've

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>come with a lot of wisdom. James even myself. When

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I do interviews. I've done dozens of interviews. Sometimes I

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>sit back and I say, Damn, I shouldn't have said that,

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>or I don't like the way I worded that. And

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a grown man myself, and I think there are

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>some people that have went on Lad's platform and said

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>some things that they shouldn't have said on on on that.

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I like mentioning my brother now an interview I've ever done,

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I've ever mentioned Timmy, you know what I'm saying, because

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of the place where we at. You know what I'm saying,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>So I try to stay away from that. You know

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I never mentioned how my pops was.

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I never, I meant, I never pretty much did my family,

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, speak on my family. But with him, I

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>mean I was just comfortable with Lad, and I mean

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe I felt that it was I'm trying of holding

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>on to that pressure with Jimmy. You know what I'm saying. So,

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a conversation, so I chose to

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. It wasn't forced out of me. I chose

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to speak on it. Well, like I said, you come,

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you bring more wisdom than the average person. You know

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>age experience, all the things you've been through. But for

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>example of that, I don't want to ask you about

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you did reject on that before you go too, because

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, Vlad always get a bad rap with um

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>with do you know, not taking coach of Volter and

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff, But people don't, don't They forget.

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And what I always not I respected before that, but

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I really respect him the thing that he did with

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>that dude Carrie Laton when he needed that go fund page.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>He used his platform and his audience to go and

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>set up this form from a guy that was shouldn't

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>have been in custody, you know, from a law enforcement spot.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't have been. He eventually got out. I don't

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>know who the end knowing what the money, but that's

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>not our business. But he before he knew all of this,

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he set this up, use his platform to make something

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>happen that would have been a positive thing to help

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this man get out of the situation that he shouldn't

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have been there. And you gotta take your hat off

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Stuff like that, little stuff like

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that goes missed by us who liked to sit back

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>on the keyboard and and say all the crazy and

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>try to be the funny man and have the funny jokes.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>But that was a big thing that he did for

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that man, especially if he would have needed that attorney. Yeah.

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I think they raised about fifteen thousand the last I

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>checked on. That might have been a little more. Yeah,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a a little bor than that, a

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>little more than that. But you for setting that up.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I reached out to big you. Whatever you have to

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>do it, you know, Yeah, yeah, Rember. At the same time,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Glad is getting an incredible amount of content of exclusive

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>over the phone interview that everyone want to get, everyone

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>want to hear, right, Yeah, I mean and if you

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>got flagged by by YouTube. So we didn't. We didn't

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>really make any any real money off that. But uh

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>that that wasn't the reason why we did it. I

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>just I thought it was a fun up situation and

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>so too much. But me being a person this in

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>media are you I'm norm still But this whole job,

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he has a media company, he's a media he has

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to get in the interviews. This goes like he doesn't.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think asked the questions for itself. I think

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>he asked the questions that the audience wants to hear,

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the main thing. You try to

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>get that because you know, if someone's to come here today, now,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>there are some things I probably will end it out,

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Like if a guy came in here, like there's some

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff that he may say that I may, you know,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>just because I know sometimes this seems like just a conversation,

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, It's like we're having a conversation.

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's some stuff I may hear that I may

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>edit out and say, you know what, I don't want

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to get Nobody in trouble had enough to come back

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on somebody. But I think what he does. I think

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>he just tries to get the baste if you're possible.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's trying to necessarily real road

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because he don't seem that. I can give an example.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I can play devil advocate, you know. I like to

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>play both sides, and I can see where people will

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>get that impression from because like on interview with me,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll use my stuff. For example, I told him might

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about something, but he kept pushing. Now

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's on me though if I kept answering, Yeah,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember that one. You know, it's on me.

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, he asked me about my course situation, and

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I told you I don't want to talk about it,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>but he pushed an accident in a different way, and

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I end up talking about it. So I understand when

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>y'all say, what are you getting that on? That? Just

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like enough? But I could have this shut up, but

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to say afterwards, I could ask him to

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>cut it out, but deep down you didn't want to

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about it the way it was phrased, I think,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think when he rephrased it, then I felt

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.959
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable or the way he rephrased that, and you

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>would asked me to cut out a certain part of

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the first interview after the fact, and we honored that. Yeah, okay,

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I want to get back to what Reggie

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>just said. Um, I remember that that interview he you

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>asked about his case. He said, didn't want to talk

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about it, but you kept probing. He kept probing. Now,

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>let me just say this, when I do my interviews,

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>my interviews are very sensitive because I'm in the streets.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing with people that are in the hood, and

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually in the hood with them, So when they

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>tell me, Alex, I don't want to talk about that.

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, my responses immediately immediately is okay, it's over

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>with um. But when you're in you're in your own studio,

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you're in your own environment, and I guess that gives

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you the level of comfort to probe even though someone

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>may not want to talk about something. But did you

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>hear what he said? He said when I but I'm

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>asking about his questioning stuff. Well, here's the thing. Hip

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>hop journalism has historically been pr If you look at

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>historically hip hop, UH journalists have never really pushed artists

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>into serious interviews. It's always been just promotion for their albums,

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's pretty much it. UH. When I came up,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do that. I looked at sixty Minutes.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Barbara Walters, I looked at Oprah, I

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>looked at these platforms that these interviews actually would change

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the world. They would change the laws, they would change

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the course of people's lives, they would unearthed wrongs in society,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and they made a big impact. A great interview is

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be uncomfortable. It's not supposed to be just

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of happy topics and you know, celebratory conversations.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to break ground. And what I do has

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a higher purpose of you know, being a historian in

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this era and capturing the stories of what I feel

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>are important people. And that's my overall reason for what

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I do. And uh, you know, in the course of

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>doing that, there are gonna be tense moments, and there

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>are going to be sensitive topics, and some people are

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>going to open up. Some people are not going to

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>open up. Some people can get angry, you know, some

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna threaten to walk out. Things happen, um,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but there is a higher purpose of what we're doing here.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.239
<v Speaker 1>And I saw two interviews recently. I know that your

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>boy he started asking what are you talking about? He

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>got angry, but but it was it was a playful.

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a playful, but it was It was one

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>one cat that the guy that told you about see

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Gutter that was in jail, We'll see Gutter. I think

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>he actually something that was kind of I think Chili.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Hill, Yeah, where he pretty much

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>called you all and was like, why do you ask

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>people these type of questions? Didn't call you That was

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>su surf baby yeah, Well it was a guy that

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a national name. He had more of a

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>regional name. I forgot his name though, But yeah, he

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't call you people. Yeah, I mean people have people

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>are sitting down with me, so they absolutely have the

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>right to call me out and to debate what it

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is that I do. And uh, I'll answer all those

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.719
<v Speaker 1>questions and we'll leave it. We'll leave it in the

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>interview and we'll run it. Uh what is that? Uh? Uh? Yeah, man.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>People have challenged me, people have criticized me, and uh,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, most people who have who have problems with me,

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>they have an open seat to come to come talk

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>about those problems, and some do. Now. I wanted to

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>ask you earlier about the A r Ab interview you did.

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I felt that that he said a lot of things

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that he shouldn't have said. But then I also think

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>some of those parts of that interview should have never

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>been posted. I think it's gonna be used against him

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's probably gonna serve some time. I don't know

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 1>what role the video it was gonna play, But do

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you ever feel like this guy probably said too much? Yeah,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get a lot of views. Yeah, people are

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be excited about it, but there's a level

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>of responsibility that I should Um, we can need money

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>back quarterback. That did you know that setting there that

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>he was There's no way you didn't know he was

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>saying some crazy stuff. Well first sorry, Uh, first of all,

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>all my interviews focused on the past, you know. I

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>focus on the statue of limitations on topics. I'll never

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>ask about a murder knowing that there's no statue of

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>limitations unless you know, and I have interviewed people about

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I have. I have interviewed people who

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>have done you know, like Ben j from the New Boys.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>He killed somebody in self defense. Um admitted. Chili admitted

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to killing somebody and doing the time for it. Um

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>no no plug Uh you know, admitted to killing Bankroll Fresh,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, in self defense once again. But never have

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I asked anyone about doing crimes. Currently. Everything is things

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that you used to do, things that you rap about,

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. So at the end of the day,

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>it's up to you to talk about what what you

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about. Anything you say in an interview

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>can be used against you, just like everything you say

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 1>in a song can be used against you people gotta

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>people have gone to prison over songs. You know what

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Anything you do on social media can be

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>used against you. Anything you say on a phone can

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>be used against you. Being out in public with all

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 1>these cameras and drones and so forth can be used

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>against you. You have to be on point if you're

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>still committing the type of crimes that you're glorifying. At

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you have to be on point whether

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about it or not. My suggestion,

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>my suggestion is if you're still actively doing crimes, don't

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about rhymes on any platform at any point. Norman,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you had something, you let me ask you this. If

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I was the phone managed to get O. J. Simpson

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>quote from this show, and he came in and said,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what, fund I did it? Don't turn you.

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't even tell me to go tell me, Norman, go

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>home and enter that peace out because O J kis

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>did that. Hell nor think. No, it's different for O J.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Because he was acquitted, so he can never go to

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>jail for that. Even if he came in the middle.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>He could come in there and said he could come

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in there admit that he did it all. He had

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a book. He had a book. If I did it,

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I found I found a copy of it that it's

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a little different. That's a little different because O J

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>was acquitted from that and he can never get in

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>trouble for that. What do you what do you? What

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>are you really saying? Is I killed somebody? I'm I'm

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>waiting on my trial to start, and then I do

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>an interview with Blad. Do I sit here and tell

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>bad detail from detail how I killed this motherfucker? This

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>is somebody. No, not to talk about the end of

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing. It ain't play as a job, because you

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm a manager. I managed a couple. I

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>have managed Glass Malone and Crazy bone Off. I'm in

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 1>there and they go see Flat and they say something,

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Holloway and that crazy. I'm that's not

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>his responsibility, well not his responsibility. Really. I feel what

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you're saying because I you know, I can have this

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>thing in my head. Okay, well maybe this guy's will

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>get in trouble. But at the end of the day

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>when I talk to them, people back in New York

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like all these shows, like you know about the shows.

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They care about numbers, and so I know what, It's

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a business at the end of the day. So somebody

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>comes in and saying something, it's not really his job.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>The baby said, people, if they come in there, now,

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that ain't what Alex saying. What Alex is saying it

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>is basically, have you just said back and just had

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>a conscious to say damn, I know he know what

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he just did on this. Before I edit this, let

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>me call him and talked to him and tell him

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I've done that. I've done that before. Well not only

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>have I done that it and and told people, hey,

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cut this out. Uh, we've gotten a certain

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like for example, when I interviewed the baby, Uh, there

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was an incident where he kills someone in self defense

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and a Walmart and it was still technically an open case,

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>even though ultimately that they dropped the charges against him

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 1>because it was self defense. You know, they got him

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>with like an illegal firearm probation bullshit. But I said, hey,

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I know this is an open case, so we're not

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it. We're gonna touch on you know.

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>We touched on it that way and we kept it moving. Um.

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I have I have a number of offers of people

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>who are in prison right now awaiting trial that want

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to do an interview. I want to do an interview

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>with me, just to kind of get their side of

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the story out. And once again I'm like, this is

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>an open case. Um. You know, we don't want our

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>stuff to be used in courtrooms, uh, to hurt people's cases. Um.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, all this stuff is going to potentially be used,

0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the interviews, the all your social media uh uh,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>as well as your music possibly if you're an artist,

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So you have to be aware of that. It was

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a subject that I was willing to check you on

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and I told him you can ask me about it,

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and he told me, now, let's leave it alone. I

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about. Yeah, okay, let's get your

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>real ship. Man. How do you A lot of people

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>say you have it out for Shig and you don't

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Night Man? Do you hate Shige Night? I've never met

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>your Night. I can't. I can't hate someone i've never met, right,

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you can you can hate the persona. He said that

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>if y'all listen to the interview that he did with me,

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>he talked about he explained that great I will I

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>will say this and I've said this before. I've been

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>around Sugar two three, three times. I remember my life

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>where we were standing close to each other, and I've

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>always chosen not to speak to him because there's so much,

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>so many bad stories I heard around him that and

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I know that he knows who I am. You know,

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he's spoken to two people who was spoken to me

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>about it, So it's not like we would be complete

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>strangers when we met. But I just chose not to

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>associate with him based on all the stories I've consistently

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>heard from everyone that's you know, deal would dealt with

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>him in any sort of fashion. Uh, And that's basically

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>how I feel. And he let some stuff go out

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>on this error. Positive I said positive things about show

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and Gotty. If you listen to that interview, he makes

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you really get some new resfine respect for things that

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>he said. I though. I thought, yeah, I thought she

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>was going to get off, and I've said that he was.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Never I thought that as much time as a guy.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I never thought years when there was no chance of

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>him getting off, none at all, unless you believe the

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>gun theory, unless you believe actually you did mention that

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in an interview. I did mention. Let me clear this

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>up for the record, because Bone is my man. Yeah,

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I heard about this. Bone is never he had never

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>he had no gun on him. I heard about talk.

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>There was no The police never accused him of having

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>a young man had no business walking up salking on

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>him like that's another debate, and that's another debate. But

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>he never had a woman because I understand that. But

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it looked like why would you hand

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>someone a walkie talking when you're when you had just

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>gotten run over. That's the end. It's a very grainy video,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>so there is a theory that it was a gun,

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but I had heard the same thing. We have a

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>person in common as well. I know he was all

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>upset over someone Piste because it's actually the faming his name,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>well his money. And he told me he wanted to

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>sue anyone that said he had a gun. You know

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he was. Yeah, but I can tell you with confidence

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>there was no gun. And in fact, if you look

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.439
<v Speaker 1>at it, he's using two hands because she never brought

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it up. But it's a story later. And you know,

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the way I even found out about that story is

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to get Bone all that TV happened.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>He don't you never know, well, you never know. I

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>should I should never say never say never, never say that.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>But I'll love for having to come in and talk

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>about that whole theory and even get mad at me

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>if he wants to that. You're calling it the theory.

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>You know everything, everything is a theory. But if you

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>look even just looking at that case, Okay, she got

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight years for either panicking and taking the funk

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 1>off while getting punched on, I mean, it can go

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>all different kind of way. So I'm gonna tell you

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>why he got twenty years. He didn't get twenty eight

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>years for killing for killing Terry Carter. He got twenty

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>eight years for trying to manipulate the evidence that they

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>recorded and presented to his lawyer right before he decided

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to take the deal. Tampering with evidence was part of

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>why he took the twenty eight years that, like I

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>told you, I said on last show, they cleared out

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the court room trying to pay witnesses to come testify,

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and when that was going on all before they did

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>search once on his sister and for being a partner

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of that right. All types of people went down around

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that case. Culpepper the other, Yeah, lawyers, his girlfriend's friends. Yeah,

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was the whole thing. It was a

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>ship show man all right. Um but but but I

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just want to say this, I don't know Shug, so

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't like him or dislike him. I'm unbelievably impressed

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>over what he did with Death Row, which he was

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>very instrumental in building, uh, creating a catalog of timeless music,

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, which you know, everything that I cover, well,

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the things that I cover is really

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>based on Shug's legacy. So absolutely, like yeah, that kind

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of talked about it on previous episodes. There were a

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of other people that were the brains of the operation.

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just Sug was it was a whole lot

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of the people that don't get their credit but marketing

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and and and and strategizing there. So that's all honest,

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the marketing party that James. I ain't gonna say nothing

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 1>on that. I'm just gonna say this, your platform Flat

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>TV helps a lot of people. It helped me. I

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>got every the majority of the people that contact me.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I just had one guy four this morning hit me

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and said it was his brother's birthday. He had a

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>drink and he had his gun and he was ready

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to go out. He left the gun at home. He

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>thanked me for my words, for me speaking, and I'll

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>show you on my phone that this guy, I mean,

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he made me feel good that he actually listened to

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>me when I said, you know, I used to get

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>drunk on a bunch of his birthday every fifth and

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>be ready to trip now and I have to let

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that go, you know, I gotta move on. And and

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>he listened to that. So this is what he did,

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and they would have never got it. And a lot

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>of people call me and say, man, you speak well. Man,

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I I'm sorry about your your your situation, but man,

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm learn learning. Uh. One guy in Texas, he's teaching

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>his students they watched your black video of me, and

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he he given them to the video to him and

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're coming back like, Wow, I don't want to

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>be a don't that thugsh it is don't pay you

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I thank you for for

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>my story being out there the way I told it

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and not switched around or whatever, and people getting it

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and they understanding and and all of these people hit me,

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>man is is great. And since then Man, the first

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>time my family ever said they was proud of me.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, is watching this video and just like, wow,

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought you was a dumbass. You talked Okay, No serious,

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you know everything about me was gang. If I signed

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>my name, I signed my name as a gang writer,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, gang writing everything. I had to switch everything.

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So to be where I'm at now, just to be

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>sitting here a is a blessing for me. And and

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that video, man, I swear to God it it changed

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>my life. And you know, I applaud him. I applaud

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you for doing one with me, and you know, just

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it just all depends on the people that's listening. I

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think you've been there for a long time and you

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.959
<v Speaker 1>got me hooked up with it, and I just don't

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:28.240
<v Speaker 1>think my story would have been I mean, no, Greg, dude,

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful job, you know what I'm saying. And then

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I did to Blad and and man, just people just

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it flipped the strip. I was impressed with the

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 1>interview you did with Greg. What was that a couple

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of years ago? You saw that interview. That was an

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>impressive interview. Yeah, it flipped the strip. Yeah, the only

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>part that damn why you wait till you fifty years

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>old to be a crop baby? So that killed me,

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I don't want to keep going on

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and on, but it changed my life, lad, And I'm

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I love it when when I get these messengers and

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and all these uh people hitting me and texting me,

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving it and and I'm glad I can speak

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to other people when they understand my story and say

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this ain't the way I want to go. And that

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>was one of my reasons for just letting it all out.

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>If if if I can give one but man, I

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>got more than one person understanding where I'm coming from.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>And I love it. And you go to Australia too, right, Yeah,

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll be in Australia and I'll be out there to

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the eleventh. I got my cracket down shoes when I

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>when I get down there about me this lone knife

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>so I can protect myself when he got damn king

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>ruse they're talking about they're gonna get on me, jump

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on and take me to the zoo. I'm not going

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to I'm good. But yeah, man, all of this has

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>been wonderful. Man. And and you know, without what, without

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>y'all doing what y'all do instead of Okay, let's put

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>our hairs together and and and and this can be

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>even greater, you know what I'm saying, because there's a

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of people across the world that don't know what

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the hell is going on here, and by what y'all

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>do that now they hear it, now they want to

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it. And I mean, it's just

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just more than fascinated with with our culture and

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with us. You know what I'm saying,

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 1>How do you get to that point? You know? On

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>this interview here with lad I mean, this is I mean,

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>me telling him my life story. It's crazy, it kind

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of bothered me, but I mean, this is what I

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>grew up in. This is how I became mom, James,

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>this is this is how I feel about everything that

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been going through. And and my whole my whole

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>life was taking it out on other people because of

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>my my home situation, you know what I'm saying. So

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it felt good to get it out. Man. Um, when

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I did the interview with James, told me some deep

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff about Pops. You've never spoke about that before. And

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>then well I spoke with him, but this is the

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>first time ever. And you know that was one of

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the biggest problems I had in my life. You know

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying this, man, You know what I'm saying. You, You,

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>my pops, you know my mother, you my mama. If

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel this love from y'all, ain't nobody else

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>out here gonna love me? So fuck everybody. And that

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was my life Autamo City. Every day I wake up

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>putting my shoes on. I'm gonna hurt today. You know

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that, that's the way I used to think.

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know I didn't care about a woman because

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>if my mom's didn't feel that way, I love me.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I know this broad ain't so I was very disrespectful man.

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>That was deep. But it takes me longer to put

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 1>my interviews out. I'm sure you're probably gonna beat me

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to the punch. Well, he's already out, James already that

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the part about his father. Yeah, okay, yeah, And y'all

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>don't go looking for appreciate not to be out soon.

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm basically a one man band, so I don't have

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the resources to put him out as quick. But um,

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I met Sugar one time and it didn't go good.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>It was an argument, it was a threat, and I

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>had some already animosity against him because he had one

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of my close friends packed out in two thousand thirteen,

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>had him put him in the hospital, almost died. And

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, um glad, everything that I've

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>heard about Sugar, every story, actually Red is probably the

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>only one that got positive stories about Shug. Of everyone

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I know that No, but I have the people that

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that no Shugar personally, most of the stories

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>are negative. You know, You've got the most positive stories

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of anyone that I know that No Sugar personally. And

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I know at least a dozen dudes that grew up Shoot.

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 1>From what I know, Man, Shoot wasn't a bad person

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. And you gotta look at it from

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>from our perspective. When you start drinking, start doing other

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:18.840
<v Speaker 1>ship besides liquor, it started, it takes its toll, and

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>it takes its toll and and you start you were

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>totally somebody else, You totally out of character. You know

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. When you wake up from drinking and

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>drugs three days ago, you wake up, you're still on

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that ship. You're still You're still on that high. You

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 1>might not be loaded, but you're still on that high.

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know a lot of people. I mean, you know,

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you get to a position where you had in your

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>life and you got all these people. Man, you you

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>some people don't there you go closing your eyes. Man, Now,

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't want me to start flipping on chick. Now,

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>James was talking about reds what happened Now, I wasn't

0:51:55.160 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about it, I mean shood, But but I listened

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to his ship nights stories over he gave man should

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>we wasn't a bad person at first, but he changed

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 1>into this this this guy he is and where he

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>had now he changed into that ship because he loved

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the power, and that's what fucked him up. Anybody else,

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Reggie and nobody else can't tell me that ain't what

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 1>happened to Shoot. She was always a bullying O. Well,

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I ain't know him to be one. And what was

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>he bullying was the high? You know? Well? And then

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>would high he getting running and Donald to fight for

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, he talked talking ship to people and then

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>calling your your cousins and Donald on a lot of people.

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 1>They did it, they did it together. But you know,

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>but when you have backup. You have you know, twin

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>cousins that uh just as big as you. You know,

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 1>those are three big fish, straight fighters, and they would

0:52:56.320 --> 0:53:00.320
<v Speaker 1>with everybody asked that was ready to are talking about touching. Shoot,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 1>there was his cousin, so should would pick a lot

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of fights. But at the end of the day, when

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the bill rain, they go running down standing right there

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>with Yeah, I believe he was a bully all along. Now,

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>glad wouldn't an interview which sugar over the phone from

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 1>California Department of Corrections be something that you'd be interested in?

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Like I said, man, too many bad stories.

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Not all good money. Not all money is good money.

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot, there's lots of interviews that

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I turned down. Uh you know, like for example of

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>people want me to interviewed uh SPM, South Park, Mexican,

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.919
<v Speaker 1>but he's in prison from pregnating at thirteen year old.

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>You know that aren't cool on that? You know, I mean,

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it'd be a big interview or whatever else.

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And and that the the story around that is kind

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of weird because she was a stripper and a strip club,

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>so he thought that she was of age. But still uh, yeah,

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but lots of stuff I turned down. And the Sugar

0:53:57.920 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>interviews one. I mean not to say that I've ever

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>been offered that interview or anything of that sort, but

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I've never pursued it. I'm not interested in. I'm not

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 1>looking to have a connection with him on on any

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 1>sort of level. Uh. Plus we all we all tell

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>it you hadn't had Reggie James and other people. I

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>think Nick Yeah, yeah, Nick Cannon, uh is trying to

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>do some stuff with him. Uh. Antoine Food Qua put

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>out a pretty good documentary on Showtime. Uh. It was good.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.959
<v Speaker 1>Had his moment and crying at the end. I thought

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 1>was that was pointing under an influence. Influence yea throwing

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>up and all of that. It's called. I don't think

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Sugar is a good interview though I've seen him on

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>half a dozen Chronic. They did a hell of a

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>job with that. How he told that story from jail.

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna listen to Chronic and how he narrated that

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just over the years. He doesn't seem like an interesting

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>interview you kind of uh oh No, He's very cond

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the questions, he doesn't He's not as articulate

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 1>as James and he doesn't really big the different that

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 1>she was good. You just don't like him, You're probably right. Yeah,

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, real quick, I wanted to ask Glad about

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:15.799
<v Speaker 1>your reoccurring guests such as Lord Jamar brand new being

0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>with my one of my favorite groups in the late eighties,

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you get Tradey. So how does that work where you decide,

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna have Lord Jamaar come back

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis? Do they become employees of the

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Black TV Company? No, they're not. They're not employees of

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 1>None of my guests are employees. Uh, let's put it

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that way. Uh. You know, it starts off where we

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>did an interview and he had a very opinionated and

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>open form of communication that seemed to resonate with people.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So we bring him back, you know, maybe a few

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>months later, and you know, people react to it again,

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and then before you know it, you know he's coming

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>back on a regular basis. I mean we have a

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>laundry list of people. I mean, outside of Lord Jamaar

0:55:56.680 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and trade E, there's b G knock out Uh. Uh

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>truly had that guys between that's between y'all. You know,

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>John Sally just as a regular guest. Big in the

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>marijuana game. Yeah, in the marijuana game and the vegan

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>thing as well, hugely boosey, Um, who else, China, Mac, Godfree,

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people, man. And that's in two thousand

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>nineteen we realized that was sort of our strength, was

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>our repeat guests still get good views, Yeah, a lot

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of You mean he got more views than keepd today

0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and James. Yeah, like what I have. Current guys get

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of views trade D Lord Jamar. I

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>mean it seems like every Lord Jamar video hits at

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>least a hundred thousand views in the first few days. Yeah, usually,

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>or more to three hundred thousand. Yeah. So, um, you

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>must have been You came up in the eighties listening

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to the same music I was listening to. So it's

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>been a big fan of Brand Nubian. Yeah, absolutely, and

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 1>um absolutely. What do people think that this goes back

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to the comment that Reggie said earlier about being a

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:14.760
<v Speaker 1>culture vulture. You definitely are, I know, but you brought

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>it up. You brought it up, and I think people

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 1>say that because here's a white Russian guy fascinated with

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>hip hop, the same hip hop that I listened to

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. I'm not so much of a hip

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>hop head with today's artist, but you know, eighties up

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>until eighties and nineties. Uh, that was my my error.

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And you love that same music too, Yeah, and I

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>got you into it? Uh what got me into it?

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I was, uh, well, initially it was breakdancing, you know,

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>living in the Bay. Uh. When breakdancing became kind of

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a national phenomenon in the mid eighties around, I just

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>fell in love with it. So I started, you know

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to break Yeah, I used to Yeah, well

0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I never got to the windmill. I could head spin

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, CENTI feed and I could pop flock

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>eye and uh yeah, I just got into it real heavy.

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And I had a little crew, you know, my elementary school,

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know that led to the music and uh,

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, just falling in love with the music. And uh,

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I think part of it was,

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though I was I was a white kid.

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a Russian kid named lad in an area

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>where there were no Russians, and we were right at

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the height of the Cold War where really, like I

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was really hated by by a lot of people on

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a regular basis, and I think sort of like the

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the outcast kind of um feeling of hip hop is

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 1>what kind of drew me to it, and um, you

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>know I connected on that level, you know, of being different,

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of you know, I'm not fitting in to American society,

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I just kind of held on, you know,

0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>from whatever off thirteen years old. Here I am in

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my forties, you know, still still loving new music and

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>still loving all the old music. So you didn't live

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in an American Russian community when in the Bay Area, No, No.

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually grew up in San Mateo, which is a

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>suburb of San Francisco, uh, through through high school and

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 1>then I went to Berkeley. Uh So I lived in

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Berkeley and Oakland, uh in the early nineties, and that's

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 1>when I started kind of kind of doing hip hop.

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, we kind of stepped up. I started doing

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like production and djaying and stuff like that, you know,

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 1>because I was in an area where there was other

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>hip hop artists, you know, like Hieroglyphics and you know,

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and and Too Short and everyone else like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I started kind of taking it more seriously at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, living in more of an urban kind of environment.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was at Berkeley in the early nineties. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated Berkeley from ninety six. Okay, I was at

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<v Speaker 1>USC graduating. So we're both from the Pac tennant Yeah exactly, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a pac tenant during the same year. Yeah yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I want to pick but here a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do a little bit of reading for about

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<v Speaker 1>three or four minutes, but I went on this subject

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<v Speaker 1>from all three y'all. It's the grand Jury, Nipsey hustle Nipsey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did some research. Y'all believe that I did

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<v Speaker 1>some research. All right, Um, but anyway, let me read

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<v Speaker 1>this and I want to pick your brains. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they got a problem. Um, and this is why

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<v Speaker 1>this girl got a get um immunity agreement. Yeah, only

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out and then then we'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>for right quick. Okay. The they never tell us the

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<v Speaker 1>name of a young lady. She's a thirty two year

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<v Speaker 1>old thirty two year old girl. She worked as a

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<v Speaker 1>caregiver during the day and transport and transport transporter at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably uber or left has uh lived in California, says

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four. She lived in the christian A

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<v Speaker 1>district from two thousand five to two thousand seven, but

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<v Speaker 1>claimed she has never heard of the Rolling Sixties. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all in her grand jury testimony, even though she

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<v Speaker 1>used to hang out at the Slawson swat meeting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Slawson swat his bod alright, but sixties also frequent that area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's Harvard parkmood. She met the suspect on February

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen while giving him a ride as a customer.

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<v Speaker 1>A social relationship began, but she claimed the suspect and

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<v Speaker 1>her was not intimate towards her. They had one sexual

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<v Speaker 1>encounter but never kissed. What's that call a low job.

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<v Speaker 1>She claimed to have seen him multiple times with guns

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<v Speaker 1>and which he said he needed for protection. She also

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to never have seen his game. Tattoos are known

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<v Speaker 1>he was a member of the Rolling sixty game. A

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<v Speaker 1>week after meeting the suspect, she accompanied him to his

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<v Speaker 1>cousin herl's apartment where they recorded music. Where she where

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<v Speaker 1>he recorded music, and she witnessed his cousin giving him

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<v Speaker 1>a gun before they left. On marsh to thirty, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen, the suspect wanted to hang out with the

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<v Speaker 1>driver with her, but was unable to because she had

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<v Speaker 1>to work that day. On the thirty one March, the

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<v Speaker 1>driver called the suspect, who wanted her to take him

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<v Speaker 1>to the Inn and out Burger. When they met later,

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<v Speaker 1>they both lived in Long Beach and they decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go to l Ad. Most of y'all, y'all think y'all

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<v Speaker 1>know all of this, but a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all that stuff. Okay, you're reading a summary of it, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>I summarize. I'm gonna well, you can read that. I

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<v Speaker 1>summarize it. When entering in the car that day, the

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<v Speaker 1>suspect wasn't wearing a shirt this is the point I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to, but was carrying a red T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt in his hand with the bandanna tied around his neck.

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<v Speaker 1>When they reached Slawson Avenue, the suspect directed her to

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<v Speaker 1>pull into the Strip mall, where the Marathon clothing store

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<v Speaker 1>is located. When turning into the mall, the driver noticed

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<v Speaker 1>Nipsey hustle and mentioned she wanted to take a picture

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<v Speaker 1>with him. The suspect remained quiet, giving no indication he

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<v Speaker 1>knew Nipsey. According to the witness, which is her at

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<v Speaker 1>the same Nipsey recognized the suspect and asked one of

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<v Speaker 1>his friends, is that shitty or shitty or whatever his

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<v Speaker 1>name is. The suspect exit the car and walked into

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<v Speaker 1>Master Burger. After leaving Master Burger, he approached Nipsey and

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<v Speaker 1>the crew, shaking their hands. Nifty acts as suspect where

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<v Speaker 1>he had been, which the suspect reply he had been

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<v Speaker 1>staying out of the way. Nipsey mentioned there's being paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>out on the suspect, which the suspect replied people were

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<v Speaker 1>just hating on him. Nipsey told him noticed that Nipsey

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<v Speaker 1>said to him, according to her, that he was his

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<v Speaker 1>bro and suggested he addressed the situation. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>from her though, This is from one of the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This statement right here addressed the situation, basically looking out

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<v Speaker 1>for the guy. According to the witness, the conversation did

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<v Speaker 1>not get heated and there was no animosity or harsh words.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your boy, just talking cowboy group, my boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the other guy, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>here this cowboy. The suspect also asks the group that

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<v Speaker 1>had they heard his new song, which they all replied no.

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<v Speaker 1>The driver left her car and approached Nipcy for a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>According to her testimony, she heard the suspect acting Nifcy

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<v Speaker 1>the ever snitched. Nipsey made a hand gester, waiving the

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<v Speaker 1>suspect off, appearing to be done with the conversation. The

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<v Speaker 1>driver left and the group and returned to the car

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately posted the picture of her and Nipsey to

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<v Speaker 1>her Facebook page. The suspect walked back and to the

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<v Speaker 1>Master Burger, then to the driver car, acting her for

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars to help pay for the food. He then

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<v Speaker 1>walked walked back into Master Burgers and then before leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>approach Nipsey and the crew, shaking everybody's hand. When he

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<v Speaker 1>entered the driver's car, he directed her to drive around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. He then pulled out of the gun and

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<v Speaker 1>began putting. The driver told him he wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a drive by in her car, so from that

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<v Speaker 1>from this point on, the driver knew something was about

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Now this is my some some nation. According

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<v Speaker 1>to her testimony, she pulled into the Alleyft eight Place,

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<v Speaker 1>which is on the corner of Marathon Stroke, so he

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<v Speaker 1>could eat his food. The suspect exited the vehicle, putting

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<v Speaker 1>on a red T shirt, saying he'd be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the witness, to suspect approach Nepcy from behind

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<v Speaker 1>and said you're through and began firing with a gun

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<v Speaker 1>in both hands, so he had two guns. Don't read

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. So I'm almost finished. It's been like

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Okay, well, good listen to you. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you forty five on your personal ship. Nipsy was

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<v Speaker 1>hit a total of ten times. The driver heard two

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<v Speaker 1>shots from her car and she waited for the suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>The suspect and of her car told her to drive.

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<v Speaker 1>The driver acts the suspect what happened, which replied, dry

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<v Speaker 1>before I slap, Before I slap you. She asked the

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<v Speaker 1>suspect where he wanted to go next? What she replied

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<v Speaker 1>to the cousin Harold's apartment. This is an important part

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<v Speaker 1>to Harold's apartment. He also suggested she turned on some

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<v Speaker 1>some music. She dropped him off at the cousin Harold's

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<v Speaker 1>apartment and returned home to her mother's house, where she

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<v Speaker 1>learned nifty Hustle has been murdered. I got more, but

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<v Speaker 1>y'all getting impatience, so I'll leave it with this go

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<v Speaker 1>from there. My point to all of this is number one,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy gets in the car. She's lying, and a

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<v Speaker 1>good defense attorney gonna tear her up because you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say she never noticed he had game tattoos on her,

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<v Speaker 1>and how did he get into a car with no

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<v Speaker 1>shirt on? And she didn't see two guns? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we got conspirators out there, everybody on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet now saying that he got the gun from Master Burger,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in Master Burgers gave him the guns and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, which is not true. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>show that this this young lady, it's lying. She gave

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<v Speaker 1>her up. You didn't hear over there with the camera, lady,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with line number one. Huh, Line number one,

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<v Speaker 1>howl in the hell she didn't know that she got tattoos,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's tatted up and he ain't got no shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Number number two, get in the car. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You want her to be able to read the tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>she said he had any tattoos on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know how to read those tattoos. And if

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<v Speaker 1>she's not from l A, you said she's from from

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<v Speaker 1>Loach from. I was gonna get to that, but she

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<v Speaker 1>moved to California in two thousand four, two years when

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<v Speaker 1>even then you don't know you in the sixty neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's been living in the Inland Empire for the

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<v Speaker 1>last people in the in the empire, and I you

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<v Speaker 1>know game tattoos and game members and that everyone could

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<v Speaker 1>read those tattoos, know those tattoos and second second one

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<v Speaker 1>to second one, no shirt on where was it? And

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<v Speaker 1>then he had two guns on where did he hid

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<v Speaker 1>the guns? That? Who knows? In the pockets and pants

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<v Speaker 1>pockets from? I mean, what's your main problem with the girl? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have got to all of it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>did go a little longer than what I what. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're trying to say there's a conspiracy that

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<v Speaker 1>she's I'm lying, and that their main witness, that the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor main witness is going to get tore up on

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<v Speaker 1>the stand by her trying to cover up, to cover

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<v Speaker 1>herself up. I don't see anything that she's covering up. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>for one, she got immunity. How does anybody she got

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<v Speaker 1>an immunity. I'm not saying she's gonna get it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying she's gonna hurt their case because the young man

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<v Speaker 1>per he's not talking, he's not he's not saying much.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just a driver, that's all. She is, a d

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<v Speaker 1>she unless you think she's a participant, she's a protest.

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<v Speaker 1>She brought him back to the location. You watched him

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<v Speaker 1>lowering up the gun. The um the car, would I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the bullet. Watched him lowing up the gun, drove

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<v Speaker 1>him a ray from the scene, win and got him

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<v Speaker 1>a motel room. I felt, I felt in danger of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Left him a whole day later. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she heard it on the news. Oh, she was with

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<v Speaker 1>him the whole rest of the day. She went and

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<v Speaker 1>w him a motel, got him a room. Not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting the shot. So basically, what you're saying is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just solders might beat this case because they have

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<v Speaker 1>a bad witness. I'm saying there's gonna be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>A good defense attorney gonna tear her up. And let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question. Yeah, if you and I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the car, you just picked me up. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up for a minute, I've been going here. I

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<v Speaker 1>walked into this burger stand and I started popping, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna sit there and wait for me to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get in the car, and you ain't tripping.

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<v Speaker 1>You go home. You don't call the police, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>her that somebody got killed up in there. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>say nothing. You're just as guilty as to shoot it.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. No, let's say I wait and you get

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<v Speaker 1>in the cart. Um drivers geta quit it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to not guilty last year from drivers who

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<v Speaker 1>were charged with first degree murder people Versusmad Welch from

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<v Speaker 1>Fai Doos Hoover. They charged him with first degree murder

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<v Speaker 1>because he was the driver. Tell us about Little All

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<v Speaker 1>from Baby Lane, tell us about that situation. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just telling you people. They have new laws now where

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<v Speaker 1>the driver is not given the same sort of culpability

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<v Speaker 1>that they did in the eighties and nineties. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a rule that they say is I was scared for

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And there's the premeditation aspect of it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>she could say she didn't know that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go over there and do anything, but she's definitely guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>You could actually argue Eric didn't go there with the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of killing. So there's no first degree. Well, technically

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<v Speaker 1>there's no first degree murder here. He was charged with

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<v Speaker 1>first degree because he was the second coming back. If

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<v Speaker 1>you would to the shodow knee, ye, he did, but

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have a burger or a food. A good

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer told me to drive back. Look, this guy's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get found guilty a second degree murder. No he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He got three minutes because when he left the location.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came back and hands her drive in the

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot, she tells him, then he doing no job

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<v Speaker 1>by all of my car. But how much time passed

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<v Speaker 1>from going to the car and coming back enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to go on to hamburger stand? And yeah, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes. Yeah well yeah, yeah, maybe first degree, second degree,

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<v Speaker 1>but first it sounds like you're saying that, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had two guns the cases because she has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of inconsistence going to prison. What do you think, Glad,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll get life in prison. I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a baratorium on death penalties in California, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna get the death penalty, but he'll get

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<v Speaker 1>left from prison. Yeah, we haven't executed because at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that don't mean the prosecutor can ask for the right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eligible for it under the laws. But yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>but there's they haven't executed anyone, and what but they

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<v Speaker 1>still they still will prosecute you and send you. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't executed anyone since January two thousand six, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy. What's your position on the definitely, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough call. Me and one of my guests

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<v Speaker 1>had a big argument about it. And he he had

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<v Speaker 1>more guest he had more you know, facts than I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the problem with the death penalty is that

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<v Speaker 1>if one innocent person gets executed, it kind of pulls,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pulls out the rug on that whole on

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<v Speaker 1>the whole practice, questions, the whole process, questions process you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certain people, I mean, and I believe in an eye

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<v Speaker 1>for an eye. I believe certain people deserve to die

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<v Speaker 1>for things that they do. I'm not a pacifist by

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<v Speaker 1>any stretch of the imagination, but I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of an innocent person being executed, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>makes makes that whole system flawed. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed the Central Park five who admitted to raping

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<v Speaker 1>this woman through coerced police tactics and did seven years each.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and being thrown in into prison as

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<v Speaker 1>a rapist is not is not the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>going in as a gangster. Do you understand why some

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<v Speaker 1>young people might just confess because I think people are confused,

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<v Speaker 1>like if they said they did it, they must have

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<v Speaker 1>did it. What's your position on that. You can throw

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old and you tell them, like, just

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<v Speaker 1>tell us you did it, and you can go home.

1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And you've been there for a couple of days and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a criminal, you have no record, you you

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<v Speaker 1>had no bad experiences with the copsvious you're you're crying,

1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you're confused, your parents aren't there, you don't have anyone there,

1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like, we'll just say it and you

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<v Speaker 1>could go home. The story before all of that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you know, they were telling stories before they even

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<v Speaker 1>found the lady. They were pretty much telling the story.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids have something new, something about this this incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe can you believe what ready just said?

1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I truly believe that. Can you believe this? Yeah? But

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<v Speaker 1>there was no DNA found one person's DNA on the

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<v Speaker 1>sock on the sock, not even on a person. They

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<v Speaker 1>had washed her down, they had did so much to

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<v Speaker 1>her to u to clean her up. I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those guys are completely innocent. I'm I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>the story before dog them the boys out without no coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>no vationline, no nothing, and they had them in there

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<v Speaker 1>for a whole day. And when I watched those two

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<v Speaker 1>guys on your interview, just listening to the way they

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<v Speaker 1>articulate themselves, there's a sincerity, there's a realness that comes

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<v Speaker 1>through them that they had nothing to do with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right or wrong? Absolutely? Man? Absolutely. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they said my interview that they thought the cops were

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<v Speaker 1>their friends, they had no problems with cops or anything

1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:58.559
<v Speaker 1>else like that. Uh, you know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>horrific what they went through at such a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I mean, I'm glad that an actual Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>movie was made out of it. And you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of applied some of the prison rapes and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, like because you know, when you see

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't interview Corey Wise, but when you see Corey Wise,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks messed up. He he does not look like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular. He does not look like it wasn't too

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<v Speaker 1>sharp at the beginning. Just crazy, that's what that's documented.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it that he was. He had a speech and betterment.

1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:35.599
<v Speaker 1>He they said he was slow. They said that. Well look,

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<v Speaker 1>look I was gonna ask you. You interview two of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys. Um, how come you weren't able to get

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<v Speaker 1>the other three stories told on the platform? Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't have a contact. And my friend, my son

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<v Speaker 1>actually knew those two guys, so he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of uh set us up with that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I heard the story, you know, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I didn't live in New York, but you know,

1:14:56.439 --> 1:14:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he knew him. We set it all up. We did

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<v Speaker 1>it with just the two of them because they were

1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:03.920
<v Speaker 1>actually closer friends than than the other guys. And uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would love to interview the rest of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're kind of like on a run right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be bizarre to have an interview that you

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<v Speaker 1>did a couple of years previously and then see a

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<v Speaker 1>movie that almost mimics the interview that you did of

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys. Uh yeah, I mean Michelle a same

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<v Speaker 1>thing the interview I did with her pretty much hern

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<v Speaker 1>into her biopic. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that, But that's that That's why I do them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so some someone could look at it and say, hey, this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put some more money behind it and bring it

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<v Speaker 1>into a bigger production. You know. I feel like not

1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:46.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone is gonna get uh like, a full blown documentary

1:15:46.800 --> 1:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>made about them, but a lot of people have lad

1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:53.920
<v Speaker 1>TV documentaries made about them, you know, like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>did an interview with the surviving member of Milli Vanilly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where he laid out that whole story, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just a crazy, crazy story. You know there is,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is no movie or documentary about him. But

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<v Speaker 1>you could watch that. You could really get the whole

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<v Speaker 1>story from one of the from the person who was

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<v Speaker 1>there from beginning to now. So what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming interviews that you haven't even dropped yet? You

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<v Speaker 1>got coming out? The back ten interviews not coming out? Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we we did. We did that. We did the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and afterwards, he just didn't want it to come out

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<v Speaker 1>right now, based on some stuff that he you know,

1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:40.400
<v Speaker 1>he's working on. Not really that he said, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean partly, you know, he he just he just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had second thoughts after the fact, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we discussed it for about for about

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<v Speaker 1>six months and then yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I told him is, uh, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's telling me about certain things that are coming up

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<v Speaker 1>and he's worried the interview might potentially get in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that so I I told him just flat out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, man, And man, I said, listen, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>still own this interview, and I'm not gonna say it's

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<v Speaker 1>never coming out, but I have no plans of putting

1:17:16.320 --> 1:17:18.240
<v Speaker 1>it out for the time being. But if your ass

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<v Speaker 1>die tragically anytime, so it's not that you know, I mean,

1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:25.840
<v Speaker 1>let's say they do, uh, if they do a big

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<v Speaker 1>ice Cube documentary or something like that, you know, and

1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:30.200
<v Speaker 1>he's tied into the ice Cube story, we may put

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<v Speaker 1>it out at that point. You know. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't, you know, I told him, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not telling you I'm never putting it out. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting it out. I'm just having my vault

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, you never know, maybe in the

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<v Speaker 1>future will come out, maybe won't. Hm. We uh. Sorn

1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Baker did one here on one of the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>have the podcast here, did mac ten yet I heard

1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:54.639
<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, but you know my I do. Mynevies

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<v Speaker 1>a little different than you know, shout out to sorn,

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<v Speaker 1>but my NEMI is a little different. Well, that's disappointing

1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that the mcten interview is not coming out. Might be

1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:10.559
<v Speaker 1>frustrating because I get it a lot. I might either

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<v Speaker 1>do an interview and they don't want it to come out,

1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>or they might cancel on the cancel you cancel on you,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, UM, talk about some of the frustrating

1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:23.400
<v Speaker 1>incidents that you've had, either after an interview or trying

1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to get the interview. Yeah, I mean we had one

1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:33.320
<v Speaker 1>guy that canceled one didn't show up one day, and

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<v Speaker 1>then showed up two hours late the second. The second

1:18:36.479 --> 1:18:39.920
<v Speaker 1>time when the cameraman already gone home. And then we

1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of years passed. They wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>try it again, and we had two interviews set up,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had some courtship that you know, he had

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel last minute, and then on the day it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to happen, he showed up so late that

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<v Speaker 1>we said we couldn't do it because we had another

1:18:53.200 --> 1:18:56.360
<v Speaker 1>interview coming up. We're not gonna canceled on someone else

1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:59.479
<v Speaker 1>because someone can't be you know, there on time somebody

1:18:59.520 --> 1:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>was cooked out. I don't know, man. You know I've

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<v Speaker 1>had I've had I've had interviews where they were scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>but someone got in their ear and told them not

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. So they just you know, didn't show

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<v Speaker 1>up that day and told us afterwards what the reason was.

1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I've had, um you know, all types of ship happens, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever just like just really got into a serious

1:19:25.840 --> 1:19:29.160
<v Speaker 1>conversation with somebody had the ball you fishing. I'm gonna

1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:30.880
<v Speaker 1>let you with my ass type of ship you can

1:19:30.920 --> 1:19:36.479
<v Speaker 1>go on and walk out. Uh no, man. I tried

1:19:36.520 --> 1:19:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to treat by people respectfully, you know, if you're sitting down,

1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, because generally people don't get paid for these interviews.

1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:45.240
<v Speaker 1>If you're taking time out of your you know, out

1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of your important life to sit down and donate your

1:19:48.720 --> 1:19:51.040
<v Speaker 1>time to speaking to me, I'm gonna I'm gonna treat

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<v Speaker 1>you respectfully, man, And you know I'm not here. You know.

1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>We had a couple of times, you know, um like

1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:01.360
<v Speaker 1>like for example, with three Greedo, things got kind of

1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:04.080
<v Speaker 1>heated between me and him. I kept asking him a

1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>question that he just didn't want to answer and got

1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>an answer anything. Well, you know, he was on his

1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>way to prison to do like what twenty years or something. Yeah,

1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:15.839
<v Speaker 1>so he was in a certain mind state, you know already,

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<v Speaker 1>and at one point he kind of got angry at

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<v Speaker 1>me over an interview I was at over a question

1:20:19.840 --> 1:20:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I was asking. So we just gotta, you know, we

1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>calmed down the situation. We sat down, and we finished

1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the interview and we cut that part out. Did you

1:20:26.600 --> 1:20:30.320
<v Speaker 1>almost not even uploaded the three interview? No? No, because

1:20:30.320 --> 1:20:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. Sometimes.

1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember I did an interview with um you got

1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:39.760
<v Speaker 1>from uh from Wu Tang and he was just would

1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>get angry at me every other question. So I was like, no,

1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>funk this interview, and I just I just shelved it

1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for like a year and a half. But then the

1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Woutang documentary came out on showtime and I'm like, well, ship,

1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I got this unreleased Wou Tang interview that's talking about

1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>essentially the whole story. Fuck it. So, you know, we

1:20:57.320 --> 1:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>cut certain parts out where I felt like he was

1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:02.519
<v Speaker 1>just kind of being disrespectful because because that's not the

1:21:02.640 --> 1:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like certain people, you know, like the drama

1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:08.759
<v Speaker 1>in the interview and like people walking out and acting

1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:11.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy or whatever else. But but that's not the platform

1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:14.479
<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to, you know, to display, you know

1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:15.920
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Because then everyone's gonna come in and

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<v Speaker 1>try to do something stupid in interviews, you know what

1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like we're trying to set up a professional,

1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>respectful platform and if things get kind of stupid, we'll

1:21:25.439 --> 1:21:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just cut it out or we just won't put up

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<v Speaker 1>the good interviews will be Gene deal. Uh we reached

1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:39.719
<v Speaker 1>out to Genem Yeah, but he's nine now. But nobody's

1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>in urban stuff is bigger than that. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why the Source magazine or All hip Hop,

1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>who were the big hip hop internet machines in the

1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>mid two thousands that first decade, but the Source that

1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:57.200
<v Speaker 1>was never an internet machine never. My question is why

1:21:57.280 --> 1:21:59.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't ever the Source and even All hip Hop tried

1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to have the web site. Well All hip Hop was, yeah,

1:22:02.080 --> 1:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>but when you look at their platforms right now, it's nothing.

1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:11.040
<v Speaker 1>They they didn't focus on video, yeah, they just focused

1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:13.640
<v Speaker 1>on web that they focused on the web. You know,

1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in fact, I mean my my dot com platform.

1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's holding steady, but it's not like growing

1:22:19.479 --> 1:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like the like the video YouTube platform. Um, they just

1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:25.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't embrace the proper technologies. They must look at you

1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and say, we're supposed to be lad. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to take it even one step further. I've

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<v Speaker 1>met with the Source and double x Cel early in

1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>flat TV days and offered to work with them, and

1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:39.720
<v Speaker 1>they pretty much for like now we're good, really know,

1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>we know what we're doing. We don't need your help.

1:22:41.640 --> 1:22:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Was like all right, had a Sunday Radio used to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dave lost Dave and Benzino lost the Source

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<v Speaker 1>to Londall McMillan, who was a lawyer who bought it

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<v Speaker 1>out of it out of bankruptcy, and he's never taken it. Yeah,

1:22:56.479 --> 1:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>he never really took it seriously. I mean he runs

1:22:58.320 --> 1:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>his law firm out of the same office that the

1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Source has run off of, you know what I mean.

1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's like just kind of like a side hustle.

1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:06.719
<v Speaker 1>It's the impression I get. So you kind of passed

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<v Speaker 1>up all of the traditional hip hop platforms in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of viewership and subscribers. I think, so you must be

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<v Speaker 1>really like saying, yeah, these guys, I just passed everyone up.

1:23:19.200 --> 1:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a surprise. I mean I was a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I bought every Source magazine that came out. I

1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>bought every Double Xcel. I would get rap Pages if

1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I can find it. I would, you know, I would

1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:30.559
<v Speaker 1>get Murder Dog if I could find it, Like you

1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>know I was and read them from cover to cover.

1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just eat them up. Uh. And you

1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>were if you were to telling me that would have

1:23:37.960 --> 1:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a platform bigger than these guys, I just like, that's ridiculous.

1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>That's never gonna happen. These guys are you know, the

1:23:43.160 --> 1:23:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Sources considered the hip hop bible. But it just comes

1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:50.719
<v Speaker 1>down ultimately, you know, to the leadership. You know, every

1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>company needs a leader to keep elevating and recreating that company.

1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, you look at the great companies, uh, you

1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>know in the world, and you hear names like Jeff

1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Bezos and Bill Gates uh and Warren Buffett you know,

1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. Uh you know in jay Z and

1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you know Puffy. You know, these business leaders who recreated

1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>themselves and reinvented themselves and pushed the business in New

1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, to New Heights. If you don't have someone

1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>at the helm doing that, it will eventually go out

1:24:23.200 --> 1:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of business. Like Ebony just filed for bankruptcy. And like

1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're old enough to remember, Ebony was

1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:31.439
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, you know, to be like the Ebony

1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Beauty of the month or whatever it was, Like you know,

1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you would you would go and marry the president of

1:24:36.320 --> 1:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>some corporation after that, like you know, this this was

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a big institution and they just filed for bankruptcy and

1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like it's gone, like run Ebony magazine that one of

1:24:46.720 --> 1:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the eight from the White House or something. I don't know, man,

1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but I know that they filed for bankruptcy and and

1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like their whole staff got let go, you know, without

1:24:54.960 --> 1:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>pay that that type of that type of thing. You

1:24:58.080 --> 1:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying. Now they're trying to sell off

1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.479
<v Speaker 1>their assets, like their photos and stuff like that. So

1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>nothing lasts forever if you don't have you know, great

1:25:05.720 --> 1:25:08.120
<v Speaker 1>leadership at the helm of it. And I've tried to

1:25:08.200 --> 1:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>be as great of a leader as I can for

1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>lad TV, but I have a great staff. What's the

1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>future for um the platform? Because like you said, nothing

1:25:16.880 --> 1:25:20.519
<v Speaker 1>lasts forever into some other He's gonna do a podcast

1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>with us, he goes, he goes, he go on his

1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>own TV podcast. I'm guessing that you gotta do, you

1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:32.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta evolve, not not necessarily man like people. I mean,

1:25:32.360 --> 1:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>this is a common question, and people think that you

1:25:35.400 --> 1:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>have to do something different as opposed to just get

1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:41.559
<v Speaker 1>better at what it is that you're good at doing.

1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:44.719
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like the keype D interview

1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:47.559
<v Speaker 1>was was something that I worked on for a while

1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to get, you know, and also had to have a

1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>platform big enough to have something like that. React. Um,

1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you have five good interviews going on right now. Yeah,

1:25:57.080 --> 1:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>something that you did with Nipsey. It wasn't that wasn't

1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>my interview. That is gonna be that given by DJ

1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>by DJ Charisma. You got Trade D was always good

1:26:05.880 --> 1:26:11.519
<v Speaker 1>for you, James Mob, James got I just finished. I

1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>got Willie D. And you know we talked to him

1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>first right after Bush with Bill's passing. Um, you know,

1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>we we try to yeah, we try to keep yeah,

1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and we try to elevate. We try to push and

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<v Speaker 1>and get the you know, the bigger you know names

1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and just really give give someone something that

1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even know they wanted, you know, get him

1:26:34.720 --> 1:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>a story that they have of someone that they've maybe

1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>heard of here there. But when you hear the story,

1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.599
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh wow, like this is this is an

1:26:42.600 --> 1:26:45.719
<v Speaker 1>incredible story. And that's really the thing of just being

1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:50.759
<v Speaker 1>a better interviewer, asking the harder questions, making a bigger impact,

1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and focusing on what it is that we do best.

1:26:53.600 --> 1:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's how we've just grown, you know, year after

1:26:56.120 --> 1:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>year where I think like three point three million subscribers

1:26:58.920 --> 1:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, we just had three million video

1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>views in one day a couple of days ago, which

1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>which is a big milestone for UCE. So and that's

1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>just doing what it is that we've been doing the

1:27:10.240 --> 1:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>whole time. It's not we're doing movies now, or we're

1:27:13.240 --> 1:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna do script this stuff now. Now, We're doing what

1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it is that we've always done. Yeah when I mean really,

1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>we're doing the same thing I did that I started

1:27:22.160 --> 1:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>eleven years ago. Are you frustrated with YouTube and their

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>new policies just coming on? No, No, man, it's just like,

1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just put out more content, and uh,

1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>we make sure that the content is impactful content, you know,

1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:39.679
<v Speaker 1>We're not just we turned down a lot of interviews.

1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>We we we turned down. You know, we don't just

1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:45.519
<v Speaker 1>take everything that comes our way. I mean we get

1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>literally every day we probably turned don't don't YouTube get

1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>your plant when you get a million? Yeah, you do it.

1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>All that's in my office somewhere in the closet, you know.

1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>So what advice do you give to a young guy

1:28:01.040 --> 1:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to start his own platform, trying to create a

1:28:03.439 --> 1:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>brand from scratch from zero. There's been there. There are

1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>successful platforms that the owners based that platform on lad

1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>TV that I've interviewed them about and that they've told me,

1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like No Jumper as an example. You know, Adam twenty

1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>two was was watching glad TV interviews and now he

1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>has a dope platform right now. Yeah, trade's are they?

1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>He interviewed some of the same guests that that I

1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:32.599
<v Speaker 1>interview and I do the same thing with, you know,

1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>people that I look and see it on his platform.

1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Um Sean Cotton from Stay Chess TV, same type of thing,

1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. In our interview, he said how he used

1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to work. He was working at best Buy, watching glad

1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>TV interviews on his break and decided one day to

1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>pick up a camera and just try it. What I

1:28:48.439 --> 1:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>do could be achieved by anybody. Tell people copy me? Yeah, yeah, man,

1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean because I you know, I mean, I didn't

1:28:56.439 --> 1:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>have anyone to copy because there you know, I started

1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>kind at the beginning of YouTube. But um, you know what,

1:29:02.960 --> 1:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>what I what I do now could be recreated by

1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>anyone with an iPhone and a passion to actually do it.

1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I think there's plenty. There's enough viewers to

1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>go around, there's enough money to go around. You could

1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely do it if you want to do it, absolutely,

1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And um, you're a big stock guy, so before you

1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>leave here, give us a stock tip, man, because I've

1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:27.599
<v Speaker 1>seen you debate stock versus property. I'm a property guy,

1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm a I'm property and stock guy. But

1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:34.519
<v Speaker 1>my property performance far better than than stocks my stocks have.

1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>But I'm always looking for a stock tip, and you're

1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:40.519
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the guru here with you're always debating

1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone about stock and property. Well I'm not. Uh you know,

1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't give stock advice because I'm not a financial manager.

1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I get sued for that. Ship is actually illegal to

1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just say this is a good stock. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1:29:52.880 --> 1:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because if it does bad you know, they could, they

1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>could sue you for the money they lost. Well, let

1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>me ask this, but but I will say I will

1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>say this because I do want to answer your question.

1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I've based a lot of my methodology uh after Warren Buffett,

1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>who is considered the greatest stock investor of all time,

1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and he said that when he dies, he has very

1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>specific instructions to the person that takes over his portfolio

1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to put of all his money into the SMP five

1:30:26.760 --> 1:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and keep the rest in cash. Uh. So you know,

1:30:31.000 --> 1:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you could have some some buying opportunities, and you know,

1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>for most people, that's what he thinks is the best investment.

1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you throw you have a little piece of

1:30:41.720 --> 1:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the top five companies in America and you could reinvest

1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the dividends and over time, historically that's that's been shown

1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a great investment. You get a big coin

1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>before I don't. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not big. No,

1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not not that I missed it. I was just

1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>never interested. Uh. You know, because the way the way

1:30:59.720 --> 1:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I cat it is that I look at bitcoin the

1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:05.439
<v Speaker 1>same way I look at gold. For example. You know

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that you can invest in some gold and it's just

1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit there, and you have to count on someone

1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:16.519
<v Speaker 1>wanting to pay you more for it in the future

1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>than what you paid for it today. But when you

1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>invest in a company, that company is actually making money

1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>every day and so always there. But when you compare

1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, gold or diamonds or silver or whatever other

1:31:31.640 --> 1:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that just sits there versus a company that's making

1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>money and growing, like an Amazon or a Google or

1:31:37.840 --> 1:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a Facebook you know, or a who you know, Yeah,

1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, but they're actually making money quarter after quarter

1:31:45.360 --> 1:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>or year after year and getting bigger and reinvesting that

1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>money and making themselves bigger from all the money they're reinvesting. Consistently,

1:31:53.080 --> 1:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>those have outperformed anything like a gold or silver or

1:31:57.320 --> 1:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>anything of that story. That's kind of how I look

1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:02.679
<v Speaker 1>at bitcoin. I'm it's cool, but it's just gonna sit there. Yeah,

1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:05.759
<v Speaker 1>gold is what twelve ounce used to be three hundred

1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>dollars an ounced, not that long ago, like then, maybe

1:32:08.479 --> 1:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>ten twelve years ago gold was three hundred dollars and ounce.

1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>So if you would have bought gold back then you

1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>would have called dupled your money. Yeah, but if you

1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:17.759
<v Speaker 1>bought Amazon back then you would have liked fifty times

1:32:17.760 --> 1:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>your money even um, Google. I remember Google with two

1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars stock own I owned, you know, and I

1:32:25.120 --> 1:32:27.559
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't talk about my portfolio, but I owned Google,

1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I own Amazon. I also own SNP five, you know. So, uh,

1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna buy some Google. But when when I

1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>saw two hundred dollars a share, I was like, damn,

1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit too that's a little too pricey

1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>for at the beginning, And that was the beginning. I

1:32:41.880 --> 1:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think I think it started around two hundred. Remember, Yeah,

1:32:45.840 --> 1:32:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care about where it's at right now.

1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I just think, is this a company that's going to grow?

1:32:50.200 --> 1:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It will just grow over time. I don't care if

1:32:52.320 --> 1:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it said it's all time high or whatever. Do I

1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>think this company is gonna grow over time? You know?

1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm reading this this book right now

1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>called A hundred of one in the Stock Market, where

1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it shows the type of companies that have a hundred

1:33:07.000 --> 1:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>times their money, meaning that if you put in ten thousand,

1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you end up with a million. Uh. And there's been

1:33:13.040 --> 1:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like a number of companies over the years that have

1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:18.679
<v Speaker 1>done that. But you you had to wait like ten,

1:33:18.760 --> 1:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years, twenty years. No, No, you don't know, you know,

1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not pulling out, it's just keeping it there.

1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just keeping it there year after year after year,

1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>not touching it. Just like property, you know what I mean?

1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna do look at the your property prices

1:33:33.000 --> 1:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>every single day? Do you look to see what the

1:33:34.880 --> 1:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>house next door so sold to you every single day? No?

1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>You've probably you know, as a as a property investor,

1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:43.439
<v Speaker 1>I can almost guarantee that you've made your money by

1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>holding that property over a long period of time. And

1:33:45.640 --> 1:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I've regretted selling some properties when I should have never

1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>sold something exactly. Some of my biggest financial mistakes was

1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:55.519
<v Speaker 1>selling a property because I was gonna make this amount

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of money, but holding it I would have made this

1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of money times ten. So same thing with stocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Right down the street. The building that death Row was

1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:06.479
<v Speaker 1>in I used to own. I owned the ability marted

1:34:06.520 --> 1:34:08.479
<v Speaker 1>from ship because he had to pay off some debts

1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:12.639
<v Speaker 1>three million dollars finance three million dollars. He stopped making

1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the payments, of course, so I lost it. I had

1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of it. I just read somewhere about

1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:20.280
<v Speaker 1>it six months ago. The building so for nineteen million,

1:34:20.800 --> 1:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I believe it. Yeah, nineteen. Well, the mortgage on three

1:34:24.200 --> 1:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>million was probably like a month we have bad loan

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<v Speaker 1>had it was fort five six thousand a month for

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars loan, so times after three But um, glad,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for coming down. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't too hard on you. I know you used

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<v Speaker 1>to this already. But you don't really do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interviews, not a lot, not a lot. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What if I promote the platform or you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>need that, Like like my my policy over the past

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<v Speaker 1>year or so, was that only going to do interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with people that have been on my platform, like China Mac. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>like people that have come to me and then interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with me when they want an interview, you know, with them,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say yes. So I did No Jumper recently, I

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<v Speaker 1>did China Mac. Aaron Foster has a podcast. I did something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know this one here, Lord Jamaar did

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<v Speaker 1>something with him. Yeah, you know what I mean, podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Because honestly, I mean, I could do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>platform I wanted to do if I wanted to, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really tripping off. I'd rather support the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have supported me. I saw you on the Breakfast Club,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think, oh yeah, he can't he comes

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<v Speaker 1>on your show. Not anymore, Charlemagne, not anymore? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, tell us why before we wrap this up?

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<v Speaker 1>Is what it is? That was one of your regulars too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, it was and a lot of those interviews

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<v Speaker 1>did quite well. So you guys had a fallen out

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<v Speaker 1>or something something like that. Can't get into it. It

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. It's been like three years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think since he's been on the platform. We've more than

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<v Speaker 1>doubled our traffic since then. So have you tried to

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<v Speaker 1>make amends with him? Arrogant? You can't make meends with

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<v Speaker 1>an arrogant person. He is very arrogant. All right, Glad,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming down. I'm sure Red and James

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<v Speaker 1>thanks you as well. Thanks for coming in and being

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<v Speaker 1>on another episode of the Gangster Chronicles and we're out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me Y. Just appreciate you, Glad.

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