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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie

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Speaker 1: Right Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang

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Speaker 1: gun and um, they believe this might be in retaliation

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Speaker 1: to our testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: My name is Alex Alonso and you may be aware

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Speaker 1: of my platform street TV, which is an extension of

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Speaker 1: interview o G s, former and current gang members, hip

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Speaker 1: hop artists, authors and entertainers, and other influencers. But I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing my two co hosts, right, James McDonald. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got Reggie Right Junior and James McDonald in the house.

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Speaker 1: And this is episode fifteen. And if you're new to

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Speaker 1: on radio dot Com. So we're gonna start off real

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Speaker 1: quickly with some fact checking, and we actually have a

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Speaker 1: special guest in the house. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: our special guest, let me just get through some of

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Speaker 1: these uh fact checks from last week and the week before. Actually,

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Speaker 1: on episode thirteen, we had Chico Brown and according to

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Speaker 1: the Corners report on Gary Webb, Gary Webb was the

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Speaker 1: guy that Chico told us about that kind of broke

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Speaker 1: the story of the CIA and freeway Ricky Ross. But

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Speaker 1: listen to this quote that was in the Corners report.

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Speaker 1: It is unusual in a suicide case to have two shots,

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Speaker 1: but it has been done in the past, and it's

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Speaker 1: in fact a distinct possibility. And that was from Gary Webb,

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Speaker 1: who officially, they said he committed suicide on December ten,

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Speaker 1: two thousand four, at the age of forty nine. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Reggie James, what y'all think of that had two shots?

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Speaker 1: It's possible, but it's unlikely. Well, how possible is it?

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Speaker 1: I mean two shots were at in the head, two

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Speaker 1: shots in the hand, two shots in the head, not possible.

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Speaker 1: Not possible. Well now, and unless you did it with

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Speaker 1: corners trying to play both sides. I think he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to say it was a homicide, but he's definitely

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Speaker 1: saying this is very unusual to have two bullet holes.

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Speaker 1: And where he got to say a homicide? What other

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Speaker 1: way would you go with that? I mean, ain't nobody

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Speaker 1: gonna listen to just do kill the self twice? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna homicide. That's suicide. Yeah, suicide, all right.

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Speaker 1: The movie that Frank Lucas was in there, we didn't

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Speaker 1: Gangster came out in two thousand seven. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: on episode fourteen, um, Reggie's correct the police that we're

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Speaker 1: standing around Orlando Anderson at the MGM. That was after

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Speaker 1: the fact situation. I checked that out. That was the

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Speaker 1: The video didn't show a lot of ship. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: so let's get onto our special guest of the week.

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Speaker 1: This guy has probably one of the most viewed platforms

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Speaker 1: And we're here with no other than Mr vladd from

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Speaker 1: lad TV, a k A. DJ LAD right, what name

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Speaker 1: James definitely made this happen because they've been on your

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Speaker 1: What is that about? I mean, I know that. You know,

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Speaker 1: last time Mob James was on, we did a quick

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Speaker 1: two guys responsible for over sixteen seventeen million views possibly

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Speaker 1: When I watched video done by Superhand and she had

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Speaker 1: three point three million just on one of hers like WHOA. Now,

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Speaker 1: You're most viewed video is actually a music video? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we sometimes put music videos for certain artists. What is

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Speaker 1: your most viewed interview video? Ah Man mondily enough? I

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Speaker 1: think it was a slim Jesus interviews. That's the white

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard from he's still, you know, doing this thing.

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Speaker 1: some years. Now, okay, Man, I got a prediction though,

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Speaker 1: got even video gonna do better than Keep You ds.

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Speaker 1: Guarantee you you think. I think maybe, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people want to hear about what keep You do?

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Speaker 1: You got the shade ring into the Chambe. He did

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Speaker 1: one one episode. When I think when you start talking

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Speaker 1: I got like two almost three hundred thousand vials in

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Speaker 1: so that means it's keep you D. Won't be done

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Speaker 1: I mean it just started to day. Um. Really it's

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Speaker 1: Tupox situation and afterwards. I think that's the most interesting

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Speaker 1: part of keypd story is his connection to the homicide

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Speaker 1: of Tupox cor And I'm assuming you pulled no punches

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Speaker 1: some interviews where you could have asked some more, UF

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Speaker 1: comes to Keep You D and and Tupac's Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: of your interviews as much, you can't really say. But

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Speaker 1: what he got to remember? He can only say what

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Speaker 1: us in the book because if he go saying different ship,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that's paying attention and watching this

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Speaker 1: But they admitted everything to kayten. But but that was

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Speaker 1: under a prophet agreement. Yeah, that's a big difference. So

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Speaker 1: takes the away from me. The conspirators is out there

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Speaker 1: to see, Uh, this person did it, or Reggie did it,

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that you do that have

429
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: nothing to do with hip hop. They're just pretty much

430
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: like crime characters. I mean, it's also you know, financial

431
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: characters like Grant card Own who owns one point two

432
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: billion in property, or you know, we interviewed Jay Morrison,

433
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: another real estate guy, or we've interviewed uh, you know,

434
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: Malcolm X's daughter, or you know, Black Panthers or Nation

435
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: Islam figures and so forth. So do those videos do

436
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: well even though there is an expectation that vlad is

437
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: going to cover something to do with hip hop, But

438
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: when you go outside of that, do those videos perform

439
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: as well as expected? Uh? Some do, some don't. I mean,

440
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: we interviewed uh, two members of the Central Park five

441
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: two years ago, and that was like the only look

442
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: in the hip hop space really that I even know of.

443
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: And then two years later you have this blockbuster TV series. Um,

444
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: some pimps. Yeah, there's Pimps, Magic Juan Film or slam Uh.

445
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, we jump around a lot. We jump around

446
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: on a lot of times. It's just like what am

447
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: I personally interested in and who would I like to

448
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: have an hour and a half conversation with and we

449
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: just kind of take it from there. And since I

450
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: owned the company, I just make the final decision every time.

451
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't have to clear it by anybody or or

452
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: get an approval or anything of that sort. And I

453
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: think we all at some point, I've watched one of

454
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: his interviews, right, James, Um, I mean you've been on

455
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: the channel now twice. Ye, Jenny, don't even watch his

456
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: own interviews. I haven't watched any of them. But you know,

457
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: I just listened to how people talk and and and

458
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, you speak this way

459
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: of black. But when I'm ownish, when when I did

460
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: those interviews with him, I don't. I don't sit there

461
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm being leading into answer a question

462
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: or if I'm getting the same question five or six times.

463
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a straight up interview. And to

464
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: each his own Every person that get interviewed has I mean,

465
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: say what you say. If you don't want to say it,

466
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: just don't say it or answer the question. So how

467
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: can you blame blad for you opening you goddamn mouf

468
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: and saying the wrong goddamn thing. No, that's that's that's

469
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: not his fault. So everybody has a right to say

470
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: what they say until their own opinion. And and and

471
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, listening to those guys that say, oh Black

472
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: put me in the bag, or or he trying to

473
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: get us to go against each other, me personally, don't

474
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: see that me personally have to didn't have to deal

475
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: with nothing like that, or or feel that, oh man,

476
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: he just asked me too much, or felt like you know,

477
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm mean, he put me in the sweat box. You

478
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Every every both interviews I did

479
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: where I mean, I'm just as comfortable as I am

480
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. And there was no

481
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: kicking your leg and and twitching up the eyes say no,

482
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: that ain't what I want you to say, or can

483
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: you repeat what you just said? Well, I think you've

484
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: come with a lot of wisdom. James even myself. When

485
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: I do interviews. I've done dozens of interviews. Sometimes I

486
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: sit back and I say, Damn, I shouldn't have said that,

487
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: or I don't like the way I worded that. And

488
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm a grown man myself, and I think there are

489
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: some people that have went on Lad's platform and said

490
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: some things that they shouldn't have said on on on that.

491
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: I like mentioning my brother now an interview I've ever done,

492
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: I've ever mentioned Timmy, you know what I'm saying, because

493
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: of the place where we at. You know what I'm saying,

494
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: So I try to stay away from that. You know

495
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I never mentioned how my pops was.

496
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I never, I meant, I never pretty much did my family,

497
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, speak on my family. But with him, I

498
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: mean I was just comfortable with Lad, and I mean

499
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: maybe I felt that it was I'm trying of holding

500
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: on to that pressure with Jimmy. You know what I'm saying. So,

501
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a conversation, so I chose to

502
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It wasn't forced out of me. I chose

503
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: to speak on it. Well, like I said, you come,

504
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: you bring more wisdom than the average person. You know

505
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: age experience, all the things you've been through. But for

506
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: example of that, I don't want to ask you about

507
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: you did reject on that before you go too, because

508
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, Vlad always get a bad rap with um

509
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: with do you know, not taking coach of Volter and

510
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, But people don't, don't They forget.

511
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: And what I always not I respected before that, but

512
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: I really respect him the thing that he did with

513
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: that dude Carrie Laton when he needed that go fund page.

514
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: He used his platform and his audience to go and

515
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: set up this form from a guy that was shouldn't

516
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: have been in custody, you know, from a law enforcement spot.

517
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been. He eventually got out. I don't

518
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: know who the end knowing what the money, but that's

519
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: not our business. But he before he knew all of this,

520
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: he set this up, use his platform to make something

521
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: happen that would have been a positive thing to help

522
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: this man get out of the situation that he shouldn't

523
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: have been there. And you gotta take your hat off

524
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Stuff like that, little stuff like

525
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: that goes missed by us who liked to sit back

526
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: on the keyboard and and say all the crazy and

527
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: try to be the funny man and have the funny jokes.

528
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: But that was a big thing that he did for

529
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: that man, especially if he would have needed that attorney. Yeah.

530
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: I think they raised about fifteen thousand the last I

531
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: checked on. That might have been a little more. Yeah,

532
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I think it was a a little bor than that, a

533
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: little more than that. But you for setting that up.

534
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: I reached out to big you. Whatever you have to

535
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: do it, you know, Yeah, yeah, Rember. At the same time,

536
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: Glad is getting an incredible amount of content of exclusive

537
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: over the phone interview that everyone want to get, everyone

538
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: want to hear, right, Yeah, I mean and if you

539
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: got flagged by by YouTube. So we didn't. We didn't

540
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: really make any any real money off that. But uh

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the reason why we did it. I

542
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: just I thought it was a fun up situation and

543
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: so too much. But me being a person this in

544
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: media are you I'm norm still But this whole job,

545
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: he has a media company, he's a media he has

546
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: to get in the interviews. This goes like he doesn't.

547
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think asked the questions for itself. I think

548
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: he asked the questions that the audience wants to hear,

549
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's the main thing. You try to

550
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: get that because you know, if someone's to come here today, now,

551
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: there are some things I probably will end it out,

552
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Like if a guy came in here, like there's some

553
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: stuff that he may say that I may, you know,

554
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: just because I know sometimes this seems like just a conversation,

555
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like we're having a conversation.

556
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: So it's some stuff I may hear that I may

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: edit out and say, you know what, I don't want

558
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: to get Nobody in trouble had enough to come back

559
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: on somebody. But I think what he does. I think

560
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: he just tries to get the baste if you're possible.

561
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's trying to necessarily real road

562
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: because he don't seem that. I can give an example.

563
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I can play devil advocate, you know. I like to

564
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: play both sides, and I can see where people will

565
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: get that impression from because like on interview with me,

566
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I'll use my stuff. For example, I told him might

567
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about something, but he kept pushing. Now

568
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and it's on me though if I kept answering, Yeah,

569
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: you know, I remember that one. You know, it's on me.

570
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, he asked me about my course situation, and

571
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: I told you I don't want to talk about it,

572
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: but he pushed an accident in a different way, and

573
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I end up talking about it. So I understand when

574
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: y'all say, what are you getting that on? That? Just

575
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: like enough? But I could have this shut up, but

576
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: you have to say afterwards, I could ask him to

577
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: cut it out, but deep down you didn't want to

578
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: talk about it the way it was phrased, I think,

579
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: and I think when he rephrased it, then I felt

580
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: more comfortable or the way he rephrased that, and you

581
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: would asked me to cut out a certain part of

582
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: the first interview after the fact, and we honored that. Yeah, okay,

583
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: so yeah, I want to get back to what Reggie

584
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: just said. Um, I remember that that interview he you

585
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: asked about his case. He said, didn't want to talk

586
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: about it, but you kept probing. He kept probing. Now,

587
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: let me just say this, when I do my interviews,

588
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: my interviews are very sensitive because I'm in the streets.

589
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with people that are in the hood, and

590
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm usually in the hood with them, So when they

591
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: tell me, Alex, I don't want to talk about that.

592
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: You know, my responses immediately immediately is okay, it's over

593
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: with um. But when you're in you're in your own studio,

594
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: you're in your own environment, and I guess that gives

595
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: you the level of comfort to probe even though someone

596
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: may not want to talk about something. But did you

597
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: hear what he said? He said when I but I'm

598
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: asking about his questioning stuff. Well, here's the thing. Hip

599
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: hop journalism has historically been pr If you look at

600
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: historically hip hop, UH journalists have never really pushed artists

601
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: into serious interviews. It's always been just promotion for their albums,

602
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much it. UH. When I came up,

603
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I looked at sixty Minutes.

604
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I looked at Barbara Walters, I looked at Oprah, I

605
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: looked at these platforms that these interviews actually would change

606
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: the world. They would change the laws, they would change

607
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: the course of people's lives, they would unearthed wrongs in society,

608
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: and they made a big impact. A great interview is

609
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be uncomfortable. It's not supposed to be just

610
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of happy topics and you know, celebratory conversations.

611
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: It's supposed to break ground. And what I do has

612
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: a higher purpose of you know, being a historian in

613
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: this era and capturing the stories of what I feel

614
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: are important people. And that's my overall reason for what

615
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: I do. And uh, you know, in the course of

616
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: doing that, there are gonna be tense moments, and there

617
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: are going to be sensitive topics, and some people are

618
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: going to open up. Some people are not going to

619
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: open up. Some people can get angry, you know, some

620
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: people are gonna threaten to walk out. Things happen, um,

621
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: but there is a higher purpose of what we're doing here.

622
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 1: And I saw two interviews recently. I know that your

623
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: boy he started asking what are you talking about? He

624
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: got angry, but but it was it was a playful.

625
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: It was a playful, but it was It was one

626
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: one cat that the guy that told you about see

627
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Gutter that was in jail, We'll see Gutter. I think

628
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: he actually something that was kind of I think Chili.

629
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I think it was Hill, Yeah, where he pretty much

630
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: called you all and was like, why do you ask

631
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: people these type of questions? Didn't call you That was

632
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: su surf baby yeah, Well it was a guy that

633
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have a national name. He had more of a

634
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: regional name. I forgot his name though, But yeah, he

635
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: didn't call you people. Yeah, I mean people have people

636
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: are sitting down with me, so they absolutely have the

637
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: right to call me out and to debate what it

638
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: is that I do. And uh, I'll answer all those

639
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: questions and we'll leave it. We'll leave it in the

640
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: interview and we'll run it. Uh what is that? Uh? Uh? Yeah, man.

641
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: People have challenged me, people have criticized me, and uh,

642
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, most people who have who have problems with me,

643
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: they have an open seat to come to come talk

644
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: about those problems, and some do. Now. I wanted to

645
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: ask you earlier about the A r Ab interview you did.

646
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I felt that that he said a lot of things

647
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have said. But then I also think

648
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: some of those parts of that interview should have never

649
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: been posted. I think it's gonna be used against him

650
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna serve some time. I don't know

651
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: what role the video it was gonna play, But do

652
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: you ever feel like this guy probably said too much? Yeah,

653
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna get a lot of views. Yeah, people are

654
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: going to be excited about it, but there's a level

655
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: of responsibility that I should Um, we can need money

656
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: back quarterback. That did you know that setting there that

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: he was There's no way you didn't know he was

658
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: saying some crazy stuff. Well first sorry, Uh, first of all,

659
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: all my interviews focused on the past, you know. I

660
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: focus on the statue of limitations on topics. I'll never

661
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: ask about a murder knowing that there's no statue of

662
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: limitations unless you know, and I have interviewed people about

663
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I have. I have interviewed people who

664
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: have done you know, like Ben j from the New Boys.

665
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: He killed somebody in self defense. Um admitted. Chili admitted

666
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: to killing somebody and doing the time for it. Um

667
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: no no plug Uh you know, admitted to killing Bankroll Fresh,

668
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, in self defense once again. But never have

669
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I asked anyone about doing crimes. Currently. Everything is things

670
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: that you used to do, things that you rap about,

671
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: and so forth. So at the end of the day,

672
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: it's up to you to talk about what what you

673
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Anything you say in an interview

674
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: can be used against you, just like everything you say

675
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: in a song can be used against you people gotta

676
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: people have gone to prison over songs. You know what

677
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Anything you do on social media can be

678
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: used against you. Anything you say on a phone can

679
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: be used against you. Being out in public with all

680
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: these cameras and drones and so forth can be used

681
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: against you. You have to be on point if you're

682
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: still committing the type of crimes that you're glorifying. At

683
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: the same time, you have to be on point whether

684
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: you want to talk about it or not. My suggestion,

685
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: my suggestion is if you're still actively doing crimes, don't

686
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: talk about rhymes on any platform at any point. Norman,

687
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: you had something, you let me ask you this. If

688
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: I was the phone managed to get O. J. Simpson

689
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: quote from this show, and he came in and said,

690
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: you know what, fund I did it? Don't turn you.

691
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Don't even tell me to go tell me, Norman, go

692
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: home and enter that peace out because O J kis

693
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: did that. Hell nor think. No, it's different for O J.

694
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: Because he was acquitted, so he can never go to

695
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: jail for that. Even if he came in the middle.

696
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: He could come in there and said he could come

697
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: in there admit that he did it all. He had

698
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: a book. He had a book. If I did it,

699
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: I found I found a copy of it that it's

700
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: a little different. That's a little different because O J

701
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: was acquitted from that and he can never get in

702
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: trouble for that. What do you what do you? What

703
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: are you really saying? Is I killed somebody? I'm I'm

704
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: waiting on my trial to start, and then I do

705
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: an interview with Blad. Do I sit here and tell

706
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: bad detail from detail how I killed this motherfucker? This

707
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: is somebody. No, not to talk about the end of

708
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: the thing. It ain't play as a job, because you

709
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: know what, I'm a manager. I managed a couple. I

710
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: have managed Glass Malone and Crazy bone Off. I'm in

711
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: there and they go see Flat and they say something,

712
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Holloway and that crazy. I'm that's not

713
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: his responsibility, well not his responsibility. Really. I feel what

714
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: you're saying because I you know, I can have this

715
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: thing in my head. Okay, well maybe this guy's will

716
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: get in trouble. But at the end of the day

717
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: when I talk to them, people back in New York

718
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: like all these shows, like you know about the shows.

719
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: They care about numbers, and so I know what, It's

720
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: a business at the end of the day. So somebody

721
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: comes in and saying something, it's not really his job.

722
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: The baby said, people, if they come in there, now,

723
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: that ain't what Alex saying. What Alex is saying it

724
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: is basically, have you just said back and just had

725
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: a conscious to say damn, I know he know what

726
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: he just did on this. Before I edit this, let

727
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: me call him and talked to him and tell him

728
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: I've done that. I've done that before. Well not only

729
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: have I done that it and and told people, hey,

730
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut this out. Uh, we've gotten a certain

731
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: like for example, when I interviewed the baby, Uh, there

732
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: was an incident where he kills someone in self defense

733
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: and a Walmart and it was still technically an open case,

734
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: even though ultimately that they dropped the charges against him

735
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: because it was self defense. You know, they got him

736
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: with like an illegal firearm probation bullshit. But I said, hey,

737
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I know this is an open case, so we're not

738
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. We're gonna touch on you know.

739
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: We touched on it that way and we kept it moving. Um.

740
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: I have I have a number of offers of people

741
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: who are in prison right now awaiting trial that want

742
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: to do an interview. I want to do an interview

743
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: with me, just to kind of get their side of

744
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: the story out. And once again I'm like, this is

745
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: an open case. Um. You know, we don't want our

746
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: stuff to be used in courtrooms, uh, to hurt people's cases. Um.

747
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: But ultimately, all this stuff is going to potentially be used,

748
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, the interviews, the all your social media uh uh,

749
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: as well as your music possibly if you're an artist,

750
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: So you have to be aware of that. It was

751
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: a subject that I was willing to check you on

752
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: and I told him you can ask me about it,

753
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: and he told me, now, let's leave it alone. I

754
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Yeah, okay, let's get your

755
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: real ship. Man. How do you A lot of people

756
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: say you have it out for Shig and you don't

757
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Night Man? Do you hate Shige Night? I've never met

758
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: your Night. I can't. I can't hate someone i've never met, right,

759
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: you can you can hate the persona. He said that

760
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: if y'all listen to the interview that he did with me,

761
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: he talked about he explained that great I will I

762
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: will say this and I've said this before. I've been

763
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: around Sugar two three, three times. I remember my life

764
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: where we were standing close to each other, and I've

765
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: always chosen not to speak to him because there's so much,

766
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: so many bad stories I heard around him that and

767
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: I know that he knows who I am. You know,

768
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: he's spoken to two people who was spoken to me

769
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: about it, So it's not like we would be complete

770
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: strangers when we met. But I just chose not to

771
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: associate with him based on all the stories I've consistently

772
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: heard from everyone that's you know, deal would dealt with

773
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: him in any sort of fashion. Uh, And that's basically

774
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: how I feel. And he let some stuff go out

775
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: on this error. Positive I said positive things about show

776
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: and Gotty. If you listen to that interview, he makes

777
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: you really get some new resfine respect for things that

778
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: he said. I though. I thought, yeah, I thought she

779
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: was going to get off, and I've said that he was.

780
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: Never I thought that as much time as a guy.

781
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: I never thought years when there was no chance of

782
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: him getting off, none at all, unless you believe the

783
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: gun theory, unless you believe actually you did mention that

784
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: in an interview. I did mention. Let me clear this

785
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: up for the record, because Bone is my man. Yeah,

786
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I heard about this. Bone is never he had never

787
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: he had no gun on him. I heard about talk.

788
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: There was no The police never accused him of having

789
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: a young man had no business walking up salking on

790
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: him like that's another debate, and that's another debate. But

791
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: he never had a woman because I understand that. But

792
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: it looked like it looked like why would you hand

793
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: someone a walkie talking when you're when you had just

794
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: gotten run over. That's the end. It's a very grainy video,

795
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: so there is a theory that it was a gun,

796
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: but I had heard the same thing. We have a

797
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: person in common as well. I know he was all

798
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: upset over someone Piste because it's actually the faming his name,

799
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: well his money. And he told me he wanted to

800
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: sue anyone that said he had a gun. You know

801
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, but I can tell you with confidence

802
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: there was no gun. And in fact, if you look

803
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: at it, he's using two hands because she never brought

804
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: it up. But it's a story later. And you know,

805
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: the way I even found out about that story is

806
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: that I was trying to get Bone all that TV happened.

807
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: He don't you never know, well, you never know. I

808
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: should I should never say never say never, never say that.

809
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: But I'll love for having to come in and talk

810
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: about that whole theory and even get mad at me

811
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: if he wants to that. You're calling it the theory.

812
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: You know everything, everything is a theory. But if you

813
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: look even just looking at that case, Okay, she got

814
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: twenty eight years for either panicking and taking the funk

815
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: off while getting punched on, I mean, it can go

816
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: all different kind of way. So I'm gonna tell you

817
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: why he got twenty years. He didn't get twenty eight

818
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: years for killing for killing Terry Carter. He got twenty

819
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: eight years for trying to manipulate the evidence that they

820
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: recorded and presented to his lawyer right before he decided

821
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: to take the deal. Tampering with evidence was part of

822
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: why he took the twenty eight years that, like I

823
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: told you, I said on last show, they cleared out

824
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: the court room trying to pay witnesses to come testify,

825
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: and when that was going on all before they did

826
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: search once on his sister and for being a partner

827
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: of that right. All types of people went down around

828
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: that case. Culpepper the other, Yeah, lawyers, his girlfriend's friends. Yeah,

829
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, it was the whole thing. It was a

830
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: ship show man all right. Um but but but I

831
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: just want to say this, I don't know Shug, so

832
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: I can't like him or dislike him. I'm unbelievably impressed

833
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: over what he did with Death Row, which he was

834
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: very instrumental in building, uh, creating a catalog of timeless music,

835
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, which you know, everything that I cover, well,

836
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that I cover is really

837
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: based on Shug's legacy. So absolutely, like yeah, that kind

838
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: of talked about it on previous episodes. There were a

839
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: lot of other people that were the brains of the operation.

840
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Sug was it was a whole lot

841
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: of the people that don't get their credit but marketing

842
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: and and and and strategizing there. So that's all honest,

843
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: the marketing party that James. I ain't gonna say nothing

844
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: on that. I'm just gonna say this, your platform Flat

845
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: TV helps a lot of people. It helped me. I

846
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: got every the majority of the people that contact me.

847
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: I just had one guy four this morning hit me

848
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: and said it was his brother's birthday. He had a

849
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: drink and he had his gun and he was ready

850
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: to go out. He left the gun at home. He

851
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: thanked me for my words, for me speaking, and I'll

852
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: show you on my phone that this guy, I mean,

853
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: he made me feel good that he actually listened to

854
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: me when I said, you know, I used to get

855
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: drunk on a bunch of his birthday every fifth and

856
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: be ready to trip now and I have to let

857
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: that go, you know, I gotta move on. And and

858
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: he listened to that. So this is what he did,

859
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: and they would have never got it. And a lot

860
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: of people call me and say, man, you speak well. Man,

861
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: I I'm sorry about your your your situation, but man,

862
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm learn learning. Uh. One guy in Texas, he's teaching

863
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: his students they watched your black video of me, and

864
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: he he given them to the video to him and

865
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: and they're coming back like, Wow, I don't want to

866
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: be a don't that thugsh it is don't pay you

867
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I thank you for for

868
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: my story being out there the way I told it

869
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: and not switched around or whatever, and people getting it

870
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: and they understanding and and all of these people hit me,

871
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: man is is great. And since then Man, the first

872
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: time my family ever said they was proud of me.

873
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: You know, is watching this video and just like, wow,

874
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I thought you was a dumbass. You talked Okay, No serious,

875
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: you know everything about me was gang. If I signed

876
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: my name, I signed my name as a gang writer,

877
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, gang writing everything. I had to switch everything.

878
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: So to be where I'm at now, just to be

879
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: sitting here a is a blessing for me. And and

880
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: that video, man, I swear to God it it changed

881
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: my life. And you know, I applaud him. I applaud

882
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: you for doing one with me, and you know, just

883
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: it just all depends on the people that's listening. I

884
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: think you've been there for a long time and you

885
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: got me hooked up with it, and I just don't

886
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: think my story would have been I mean, no, Greg, dude,

887
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: a wonderful job, you know what I'm saying. And then

888
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: I did to Blad and and man, just people just

889
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: it's it flipped the strip. I was impressed with the

890
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: interview you did with Greg. What was that a couple

891
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: of years ago? You saw that interview. That was an

892
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: impressive interview. Yeah, it flipped the strip. Yeah, the only

893
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: part that damn why you wait till you fifty years

894
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: old to be a crop baby? So that killed me,

895
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't want to keep going on

896
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: and on, but it changed my life, lad, And I'm

897
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: I love it when when I get these messengers and

898
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: and all these uh people hitting me and texting me,

899
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm loving it and and I'm glad I can speak

900
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: to other people when they understand my story and say

901
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: this ain't the way I want to go. And that

902
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: was one of my reasons for just letting it all out.

903
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: If if if I can give one but man, I

904
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: got more than one person understanding where I'm coming from.

905
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: And I love it. And you go to Australia too, right, Yeah,

906
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: I'll be in Australia and I'll be out there to

907
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: the eleventh. I got my cracket down shoes when I

908
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: when I get down there about me this lone knife

909
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: so I can protect myself when he got damn king

910
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: ruse they're talking about they're gonna get on me, jump

911
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: on and take me to the zoo. I'm not going

912
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: to I'm good. But yeah, man, all of this has

913
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: been wonderful. Man. And and you know, without what, without

914
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: y'all doing what y'all do instead of Okay, let's put

915
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: our hairs together and and and and this can be

916
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: even greater, you know what I'm saying, because there's a

917
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: lot of people across the world that don't know what

918
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: the hell is going on here, and by what y'all

919
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: do that now they hear it, now they want to

920
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And I mean, it's just

921
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: they're just more than fascinated with with our culture and

922
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: what's going on with us. You know what I'm saying,

923
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: How do you get to that point? You know? On

924
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: this interview here with lad I mean, this is I mean,

925
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: me telling him my life story. It's crazy, it kind

926
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: of bothered me, but I mean, this is what I

927
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: grew up in. This is how I became mom, James,

928
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: this is this is how I feel about everything that

929
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I've been going through. And and my whole my whole

930
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: life was taking it out on other people because of

931
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: my my home situation, you know what I'm saying. So

932
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: it felt good to get it out. Man. Um, when

933
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: I did the interview with James, told me some deep

934
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: stuff about Pops. You've never spoke about that before. And

935
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: then well I spoke with him, but this is the

936
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: first time ever. And you know that was one of

937
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: the biggest problems I had in my life. You know

938
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying this, man, You know what I'm saying. You, You,

939
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: my pops, you know my mother, you my mama. If

940
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't feel this love from y'all, ain't nobody else

941
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: out here gonna love me? So fuck everybody. And that

942
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: was my life Autamo City. Every day I wake up

943
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: putting my shoes on. I'm gonna hurt today. You know

944
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, that's the way I used to think.

945
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: And you know I didn't care about a woman because

946
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: if my mom's didn't feel that way, I love me.

947
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: I know this broad ain't so I was very disrespectful man.

948
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: That was deep. But it takes me longer to put

949
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: my interviews out. I'm sure you're probably gonna beat me

950
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: to the punch. Well, he's already out, James already that

951
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: the part about his father. Yeah, okay, yeah, And y'all

952
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: don't go looking for appreciate not to be out soon.

953
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm basically a one man band, so I don't have

954
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: the resources to put him out as quick. But um,

955
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: I met Sugar one time and it didn't go good.

956
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: It was an argument, it was a threat, and I

957
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: had some already animosity against him because he had one

958
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: of my close friends packed out in two thousand thirteen,

959
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: had him put him in the hospital, almost died. And

960
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, um glad, everything that I've

961
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: heard about Sugar, every story, actually Red is probably the

962
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: only one that got positive stories about Shug. Of everyone

963
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: I know that No, but I have the people that

964
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: I know that no Shugar personally, most of the stories

965
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: are negative. You know, You've got the most positive stories

966
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: of anyone that I know that No Sugar personally. And

967
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: I know at least a dozen dudes that grew up Shoot.

968
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: From what I know, Man, Shoot wasn't a bad person

969
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: at the beginning. And you gotta look at it from

970
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: from our perspective. When you start drinking, start doing other

971
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: ship besides liquor, it started, it takes its toll, and

972
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: it takes its toll and and you start you were

973
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: totally somebody else, You totally out of character. You know

974
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you wake up from drinking and

975
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: drugs three days ago, you wake up, you're still on

976
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that ship. You're still You're still on that high. You

977
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: might not be loaded, but you're still on that high.

978
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people. I mean, you know,

979
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: you get to a position where you had in your

980
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: life and you got all these people. Man, you you

981
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: some people don't there you go closing your eyes. Man, Now,

982
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: you don't want me to start flipping on chick. Now,

983
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: James was talking about reds what happened Now, I wasn't

984
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: talking about it, I mean shood, But but I listened

985
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: to his ship nights stories over he gave man should

986
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: we wasn't a bad person at first, but he changed

987
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: into this this this guy he is and where he

988
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: had now he changed into that ship because he loved

989
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: the power, and that's what fucked him up. Anybody else,

990
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Reggie and nobody else can't tell me that ain't what

991
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: happened to Shoot. She was always a bullying O. Well,

992
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: I ain't know him to be one. And what was

993
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: he bullying was the high? You know? Well? And then

994
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: would high he getting running and Donald to fight for

995
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, he talked talking ship to people and then

996
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: calling your your cousins and Donald on a lot of people.

997
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: They did it, they did it together. But you know,

998
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: but when you have backup. You have you know, twin

999
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: cousins that uh just as big as you. You know,

1000
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: those are three big fish, straight fighters, and they would

1001
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: with everybody asked that was ready to are talking about touching. Shoot,

1002
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: there was his cousin, so should would pick a lot

1003
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: of fights. But at the end of the day, when

1004
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: the bill rain, they go running down standing right there

1005
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: with Yeah, I believe he was a bully all along. Now,

1006
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: glad wouldn't an interview which sugar over the phone from

1007
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: California Department of Corrections be something that you'd be interested in?

1008
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: Why not? Like I said, man, too many bad stories.

1009
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: Not all good money. Not all money is good money.

1010
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot, there's lots of interviews that

1011
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: I turned down. Uh you know, like for example of

1012
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: people want me to interviewed uh SPM, South Park, Mexican,

1013
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: but he's in prison from pregnating at thirteen year old.

1014
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: You know that aren't cool on that? You know, I mean,

1015
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'd be a big interview or whatever else.

1016
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: And and that the the story around that is kind

1017
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: of weird because she was a stripper and a strip club,

1018
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: so he thought that she was of age. But still uh, yeah,

1019
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: but lots of stuff I turned down. And the Sugar

1020
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: interviews one. I mean not to say that I've ever

1021
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: been offered that interview or anything of that sort, but

1022
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: I've never pursued it. I'm not interested in. I'm not

1023
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: looking to have a connection with him on on any

1024
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: sort of level. Uh. Plus we all we all tell

1025
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: it you hadn't had Reggie James and other people. I

1026
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: think Nick Yeah, yeah, Nick Cannon, uh is trying to

1027
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: do some stuff with him. Uh. Antoine Food Qua put

1028
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: out a pretty good documentary on Showtime. Uh. It was good.

1029
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: Had his moment and crying at the end. I thought

1030
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: was that was pointing under an influence. Influence yea throwing

1031
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: up and all of that. It's called. I don't think

1032
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Sugar is a good interview though I've seen him on

1033
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: half a dozen Chronic. They did a hell of a

1034
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: job with that. How he told that story from jail.

1035
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna listen to Chronic and how he narrated that

1036
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: just over the years. He doesn't seem like an interesting

1037
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: interview you kind of uh oh No, He's very cond

1038
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: some of the questions, he doesn't He's not as articulate

1039
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: as James and he doesn't really big the different that

1040
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: she was good. You just don't like him, You're probably right. Yeah,

1041
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: all right, real quick, I wanted to ask Glad about

1042
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: your reoccurring guests such as Lord Jamar brand new being

1043
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: with my one of my favorite groups in the late eighties,

1044
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: you get Tradey. So how does that work where you decide,

1045
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna have Lord Jamaar come back

1046
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: on a regular basis? Do they become employees of the

1047
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: Black TV Company? No, they're not. They're not employees of

1048
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: None of my guests are employees. Uh, let's put it

1049
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: that way. Uh. You know, it starts off where we

1050
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: did an interview and he had a very opinionated and

1051
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: open form of communication that seemed to resonate with people.

1052
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: So we bring him back, you know, maybe a few

1053
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: months later, and you know, people react to it again,

1054
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: and then before you know it, you know he's coming

1055
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: back on a regular basis. I mean we have a

1056
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: laundry list of people. I mean, outside of Lord Jamaar

1057
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: and trade E, there's b G knock out Uh. Uh

1058
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: truly had that guys between that's between y'all. You know,

1059
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: John Sally just as a regular guest. Big in the

1060
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: marijuana game. Yeah, in the marijuana game and the vegan

1061
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: thing as well, hugely boosey, Um, who else, China, Mac, Godfree,

1062
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, man. And that's in two thousand

1063
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: nineteen we realized that was sort of our strength, was

1064
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: our repeat guests still get good views, Yeah, a lot

1065
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: of You mean he got more views than keepd today

1066
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: and James. Yeah, like what I have. Current guys get

1067
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of views trade D Lord Jamar. I

1068
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: mean it seems like every Lord Jamar video hits at

1069
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: least a hundred thousand views in the first few days. Yeah, usually,

1070
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: or more to three hundred thousand. Yeah. So, um, you

1071
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: must have been You came up in the eighties listening

1072
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: to the same music I was listening to. So it's

1073
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: been a big fan of Brand Nubian. Yeah, absolutely, and

1074
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: um absolutely. What do people think that this goes back

1075
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: to the comment that Reggie said earlier about being a

1076
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: culture vulture. You definitely are, I know, but you brought

1077
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: it up. You brought it up, and I think people

1078
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: say that because here's a white Russian guy fascinated with

1079
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: hip hop, the same hip hop that I listened to

1080
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: in the eighties. I'm not so much of a hip

1081
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: hop head with today's artist, but you know, eighties up

1082
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: until eighties and nineties. Uh, that was my my error.

1083
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: And you love that same music too, Yeah, and I

1084
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: got you into it? Uh what got me into it?

1085
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I was, uh, well, initially it was breakdancing, you know,

1086
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: living in the Bay. Uh. When breakdancing became kind of

1087
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: a national phenomenon in the mid eighties around, I just

1088
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: fell in love with it. So I started, you know

1089
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: I used to break Yeah, I used to Yeah, well

1090
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: I never got to the windmill. I could head spin

1091
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: and you know, CENTI feed and I could pop flock

1092
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: eye and uh yeah, I just got into it real heavy.

1093
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: And I had a little crew, you know, my elementary school,

1094
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: and you know that led to the music and uh,

1095
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, just falling in love with the music. And uh,

1096
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think part of it was,

1097
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, even though I was I was a white kid.

1098
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: I was a Russian kid named lad in an area

1099
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: where there were no Russians, and we were right at

1100
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: the height of the Cold War where really, like I

1101
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: was really hated by by a lot of people on

1102
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and I think sort of like the

1103
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: the outcast kind of um feeling of hip hop is

1104
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: what kind of drew me to it, and um, you

1105
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: know I connected on that level, you know, of being different,

1106
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: of you know, I'm not fitting in to American society,

1107
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I just kind of held on, you know,

1108
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: from whatever off thirteen years old. Here I am in

1109
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: my forties, you know, still still loving new music and

1110
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: still loving all the old music. So you didn't live

1111
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: in an American Russian community when in the Bay Area, No, No.

1112
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I actually grew up in San Mateo, which is a

1113
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: suburb of San Francisco, uh, through through high school and

1114
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: then I went to Berkeley. Uh So I lived in

1115
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Berkeley and Oakland, uh in the early nineties, and that's

1116
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: when I started kind of kind of doing hip hop.

1117
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, we kind of stepped up. I started doing

1118
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: like production and djaying and stuff like that, you know,

1119
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: because I was in an area where there was other

1120
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: hip hop artists, you know, like Hieroglyphics and you know,

1121
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: and and Too Short and everyone else like that. So

1122
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: I started kind of taking it more seriously at that point,

1123
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, living in more of an urban kind of environment.

1124
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: So he was at Berkeley in the early nineties. Yeah. Yeah,

1125
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I graduated Berkeley from ninety six. Okay, I was at

1126
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: USC graduating. So we're both from the Pac tennant Yeah exactly, Yeah, exactly.

1127
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: We're in a pac tenant during the same year. Yeah yeah, okay,

1128
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: all right, I want to pick but here a little bit.

1129
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't do a little bit of reading for about

1130
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: three or four minutes, but I went on this subject

1131
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: from all three y'all. It's the grand Jury, Nipsey hustle Nipsey,

1132
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: and I did some research. Y'all believe that I did

1133
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: some research. All right, Um, but anyway, let me read

1134
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: this and I want to pick your brains. And I

1135
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: think they got a problem. Um, and this is why

1136
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: this girl got a get um immunity agreement. Yeah, only

1137
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: throw it out and then then we'll talk about it

1138
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: for right quick. Okay. The they never tell us the

1139
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: name of a young lady. She's a thirty two year

1140
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: old thirty two year old girl. She worked as a

1141
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: caregiver during the day and transport and transport transporter at night.

1142
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Probably uber or left has uh lived in California, says

1143
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. She lived in the christian A

1144
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: district from two thousand five to two thousand seven, but

1145
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: claimed she has never heard of the Rolling Sixties. This

1146
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: is all in her grand jury testimony, even though she

1147
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: used to hang out at the Slawson swat meeting. Okay,

1148
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: Slawson swat his bod alright, but sixties also frequent that area.

1149
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: It's it's Harvard parkmood. She met the suspect on February

1150
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen while giving him a ride as a customer.

1151
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: A social relationship began, but she claimed the suspect and

1152
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: her was not intimate towards her. They had one sexual

1153
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: encounter but never kissed. What's that call a low job.

1154
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: She claimed to have seen him multiple times with guns

1155
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: and which he said he needed for protection. She also

1156
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: claimed to never have seen his game. Tattoos are known

1157
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: he was a member of the Rolling sixty game. A

1158
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: week after meeting the suspect, she accompanied him to his

1159
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: cousin herl's apartment where they recorded music. Where she where

1160
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: he recorded music, and she witnessed his cousin giving him

1161
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: a gun before they left. On marsh to thirty, two

1162
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, the suspect wanted to hang out with the

1163
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: driver with her, but was unable to because she had

1164
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: to work that day. On the thirty one March, the

1165
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: driver called the suspect, who wanted her to take him

1166
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: to the Inn and out Burger. When they met later,

1167
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: they both lived in Long Beach and they decided to

1168
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: go to l Ad. Most of y'all, y'all think y'all

1169
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: know all of this, but a lot of people don't

1170
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: know all that stuff. Okay, you're reading a summary of it, correct,

1171
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: I summarize. I'm gonna well, you can read that. I

1172
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: summarize it. When entering in the car that day, the

1173
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: suspect wasn't wearing a shirt this is the point I

1174
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: want to get to, but was carrying a red T

1175
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: shirt in his hand with the bandanna tied around his neck.

1176
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: When they reached Slawson Avenue, the suspect directed her to

1177
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: pull into the Strip mall, where the Marathon clothing store

1178
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: is located. When turning into the mall, the driver noticed

1179
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: Nipsey hustle and mentioned she wanted to take a picture

1180
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: with him. The suspect remained quiet, giving no indication he

1181
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: knew Nipsey. According to the witness, which is her at

1182
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: the same Nipsey recognized the suspect and asked one of

1183
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: his friends, is that shitty or shitty or whatever his

1184
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: name is. The suspect exit the car and walked into

1185
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: Master Burger. After leaving Master Burger, he approached Nipsey and

1186
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: the crew, shaking their hands. Nifty acts as suspect where

1187
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: he had been, which the suspect reply he had been

1188
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: staying out of the way. Nipsey mentioned there's being paperwork

1189
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: out on the suspect, which the suspect replied people were

1190
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: just hating on him. Nipsey told him noticed that Nipsey

1191
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: said to him, according to her, that he was his

1192
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: bro and suggested he addressed the situation. This is not

1193
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: from her though, This is from one of the guys.

1194
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: This statement right here addressed the situation, basically looking out

1195
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: for the guy. According to the witness, the conversation did

1196
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: not get heated and there was no animosity or harsh words.

1197
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: This is your boy, just talking cowboy group, my boy.

1198
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the other guy, but it's not

1199
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: here this cowboy. The suspect also asks the group that

1200
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: had they heard his new song, which they all replied no.

1201
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: The driver left her car and approached Nipcy for a picture.

1202
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: According to her testimony, she heard the suspect acting Nifcy

1203
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: the ever snitched. Nipsey made a hand gester, waiving the

1204
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: suspect off, appearing to be done with the conversation. The

1205
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: driver left and the group and returned to the car

1206
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: and immediately posted the picture of her and Nipsey to

1207
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: her Facebook page. The suspect walked back and to the

1208
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: Master Burger, then to the driver car, acting her for

1209
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: two dollars to help pay for the food. He then

1210
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: walked walked back into Master Burgers and then before leaving,

1211
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: approach Nipsey and the crew, shaking everybody's hand. When he

1212
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: entered the driver's car, he directed her to drive around

1213
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: the corner. He then pulled out of the gun and

1214
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: began putting. The driver told him he wasn't going to

1215
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: do a drive by in her car, so from that

1216
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: from this point on, the driver knew something was about

1217
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: to go. Now this is my some some nation. According

1218
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: to her testimony, she pulled into the Alleyft eight Place,

1219
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: which is on the corner of Marathon Stroke, so he

1220
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: could eat his food. The suspect exited the vehicle, putting

1221
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: on a red T shirt, saying he'd be right back.

1222
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: According to the witness, to suspect approach Nepcy from behind

1223
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: and said you're through and began firing with a gun

1224
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: in both hands, so he had two guns. Don't read

1225
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So I'm almost finished. It's been like

1226
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: five minutes. Okay, well, good listen to you. I listened

1227
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: to you forty five on your personal ship. Nipsy was

1228
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: hit a total of ten times. The driver heard two

1229
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: shots from her car and she waited for the suspect.

1230
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: The suspect and of her car told her to drive.

1231
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: The driver acts the suspect what happened, which replied, dry

1232
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: before I slap, Before I slap you. She asked the

1233
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: suspect where he wanted to go next? What she replied

1234
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: to the cousin Harold's apartment. This is an important part

1235
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: to Harold's apartment. He also suggested she turned on some

1236
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: some music. She dropped him off at the cousin Harold's

1237
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: apartment and returned home to her mother's house, where she

1238
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: learned nifty Hustle has been murdered. I got more, but

1239
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: y'all getting impatience, so I'll leave it with this go

1240
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: from there. My point to all of this is number one,

1241
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: this guy gets in the car. She's lying, and a

1242
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: good defense attorney gonna tear her up because you're trying

1243
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: to say she never noticed he had game tattoos on her,

1244
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: and how did he get into a car with no

1245
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: shirt on? And she didn't see two guns? You know,

1246
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: I know we got conspirators out there, everybody on the

1247
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: internet now saying that he got the gun from Master Burger,

1248
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: somebody in Master Burgers gave him the guns and all

1249
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: of that, which is not true. I'm just trying to

1250
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: show that this this young lady, it's lying. She gave

1251
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: her up. You didn't hear over there with the camera, lady,

1252
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: Let's start with line number one. Huh, Line number one,

1253
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: howl in the hell she didn't know that she got tattoos,

1254
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: that he's tatted up and he ain't got no shirt.

1255
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: Number number two, get in the car. Let's do it.

1256
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: You want her to be able to read the tattoos

1257
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: she said he had any tattoos on a lot of

1258
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: people don't know how to read those tattoos. And if

1259
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: she's not from l A, you said she's from from

1260
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Loach from. I was gonna get to that, but she

1261
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: moved to California in two thousand four, two years when

1262
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: even then you don't know you in the sixty neighborhood.

1263
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe she's been living in the Inland Empire for the

1264
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: last people in the in the empire, and I you

1265
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: know game tattoos and game members and that everyone could

1266
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: read those tattoos, know those tattoos and second second one

1267
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: to second one, no shirt on where was it? And

1268
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Speaker 1: then he had two guns on where did he hid

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01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: the guns? That? Who knows? In the pockets and pants

1270
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: pockets from? I mean, what's your main problem with the girl? Uh? Well,

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Speaker 1: I would have got to all of it, but it

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: did go a little longer than what I what. It

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01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: sounds like you're trying to say there's a conspiracy that

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: she's I'm lying, and that their main witness, that the

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: prosecutor main witness is going to get tore up on

1276
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: the stand by her trying to cover up, to cover

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 1: herself up. I don't see anything that she's covering up. Okay, Well,

1278
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: for one, she got immunity. How does anybody she got

1279
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: an immunity. I'm not saying she's gonna get it. I'm

1280
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: saying she's gonna hurt their case because the young man

1281
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: per he's not talking, he's not he's not saying much.

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: She's just a driver, that's all. She is, a d

1283
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: she unless you think she's a participant, she's a protest.

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: She brought him back to the location. You watched him

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: lowering up the gun. The um the car, would I

1286
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: mean the bullet. Watched him lowing up the gun, drove

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: him a ray from the scene, win and got him

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: a motel room. I felt, I felt in danger of

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: my life. Left him a whole day later. She said

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: she heard it on the news. Oh, she was with

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: him the whole rest of the day. She went and

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Speaker 1: w him a motel, got him a room. Not only that,

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm starting the shot. So basically, what you're saying is,

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm just solders might beat this case because they have

1295
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: a bad witness. I'm saying there's gonna be a problem.

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01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: A good defense attorney gonna tear her up. And let

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Yeah, if you and I

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: was in the car, you just picked me up. I said,

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: hold up for a minute, I've been going here. I

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: walked into this burger stand and I started popping, and

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: she's gonna sit there and wait for me to come out.

1302
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: And I get in the car, and you ain't tripping.

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01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: You go home. You don't call the police, you don't

1304
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: her that somebody got killed up in there. You don't

1305
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: say nothing. You're just as guilty as to shoot it.

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: I disagree. No, let's say I wait and you get

1307
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: in the cart. Um drivers geta quit it all the time.

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: I got to not guilty last year from drivers who

1309
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: were charged with first degree murder people Versusmad Welch from

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Fai Doos Hoover. They charged him with first degree murder

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: because he was the driver. Tell us about Little All

1312
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: from Baby Lane, tell us about that situation. No, I'm

1313
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: just telling you people. They have new laws now where

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: the driver is not given the same sort of culpability

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: that they did in the eighties and nineties. They have

1316
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: a rule that they say is I was scared for

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: my life. And there's the premeditation aspect of it. Like

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: she could say she didn't know that he was going

1319
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: to go over there and do anything, but she's definitely guilty.

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01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: You could actually argue Eric didn't go there with the

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: purpose of killing. So there's no first degree. Well, technically

1322
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: there's no first degree murder here. He was charged with

1323
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: first degree because he was the second coming back. If

1324
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: you would to the shodow knee, ye, he did, but

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01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have a burger or a food. A good

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: lawyer told me to drive back. Look, this guy's gonna

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: get found guilty a second degree murder. No he's not.

1328
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: He got three minutes because when he left the location.

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: When it came back and hands her drive in the

1330
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: parking lot, she tells him, then he doing no job

1331
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: by all of my car. But how much time passed

1332
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: from going to the car and coming back enough time

1333
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: to go on to hamburger stand? And yeah, a couple

1334
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: of minutes. Yeah well yeah, yeah, maybe first degree, second degree,

1335
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: but first it sounds like you're saying that, and he

1336
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: had two guns the cases because she has a lot

1337
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: of inconsistence going to prison. What do you think, Glad,

1338
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: I think he'll get life in prison. I don't. I mean,

1339
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: there's a baratorium on death penalties in California, right, so

1340
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get the death penalty, but he'll get

1341
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: left from prison. Yeah, we haven't executed because at the

1342
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: moment that don't mean the prosecutor can ask for the right.

1343
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: He's eligible for it under the laws. But yeah, but

1344
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: but there's they haven't executed anyone, and what but they

1345
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: still they still will prosecute you and send you. They

1346
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: haven't executed anyone since January two thousand six, which is

1347
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. What's your position on the definitely, Um,

1348
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: it's a tough call. Me and one of my guests

1349
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: had a big argument about it. And he he had

1350
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: more guest he had more you know, facts than I did.

1351
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: I think the problem with the death penalty is that

1352
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: if one innocent person gets executed, it kind of pulls,

1353
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, pulls out the rug on that whole on

1354
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: the whole practice, questions, the whole process, questions process you know,

1355
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: certain people, I mean, and I believe in an eye

1356
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: for an eye. I believe certain people deserve to die

1357
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: for things that they do. I'm not a pacifist by

1358
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but I think that the

1359
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: possibility of an innocent person being executed, uh, you know,

1360
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: makes makes that whole system flawed. And like I said,

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: I interviewed the Central Park five who admitted to raping

1362
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: this woman through coerced police tactics and did seven years each.

1363
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: And you know, and being thrown in into prison as

1364
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: a rapist is not is not the same thing as

1365
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: going in as a gangster. Do you understand why some

1366
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: young people might just confess because I think people are confused,

1367
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: like if they said they did it, they must have

1368
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: did it. What's your position on that. You can throw

1369
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old and you tell them, like, just

1370
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: tell us you did it, and you can go home.

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01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: And you've been there for a couple of days and

1372
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: you're not a criminal, you have no record, you you

1373
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,879
Speaker 1: had no bad experiences with the copsvious you're you're crying,

1374
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: you're confused, your parents aren't there, you don't have anyone there,

1375
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: and they're just like, we'll just say it and you

1376
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: could go home. The story before all of that, that's

1377
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: why you know, they were telling stories before they even

1378
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: found the lady. They were pretty much telling the story.

1379
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: The kids have something new, something about this this incident.

1380
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: Can you believe can you believe what ready just said?

1381
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. Can you believe this? Yeah? But

1382
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: there was no DNA found one person's DNA on the

1383
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: sock on the sock, not even on a person. They

1384
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: had washed her down, they had did so much to

1385
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: her to u to clean her up. I'm not saying,

1386
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, those guys are completely innocent. I'm I'm saying

1387
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: the story before dog them the boys out without no coffee,

1388
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: no vationline, no nothing, and they had them in there

1389
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: for a whole day. And when I watched those two

1390
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: guys on your interview, just listening to the way they

1391
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: articulate themselves, there's a sincerity, there's a realness that comes

1392
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: through them that they had nothing to do with this.

1393
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: Am I right or wrong? Absolutely? Man? Absolutely. I mean

1394
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: they said my interview that they thought the cops were

1395
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: their friends, they had no problems with cops or anything

1396
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: else like that. Uh, you know, it was it was

1397
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: horrific what they went through at such a young age.

1398
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, I'm glad that an actual Netflix

1399
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: movie was made out of it. And you know, and

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: it kind of applied some of the prison rapes and

1401
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like because you know, when you see

1402
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: I didn't interview Corey Wise, but when you see Corey Wise,

1403
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: he looks messed up. He he does not look like

1404
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: a regular. He does not look like it wasn't too

1405
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: sharp at the beginning. Just crazy, that's what that's documented.

1406
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: That's it that he was. He had a speech and betterment.

1407
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: He they said he was slow. They said that. Well look,

1408
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: look I was gonna ask you. You interview two of

1409
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: the guys. Um, how come you weren't able to get

1410
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: the other three stories told on the platform? Uh, we

1411
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: just didn't have a contact. And my friend, my son

1412
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: actually knew those two guys, so he was he was

1413
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: able to kind of uh set us up with that,

1414
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, because I heard the story, you know, growing up,

1415
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: even though I didn't live in New York, but you know,

1416
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: he knew him. We set it all up. We did

1417
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: it with just the two of them because they were

1418
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: actually closer friends than than the other guys. And uh yeah,

1419
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean I would love to interview the rest of them,

1420
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: but they're kind of like on a run right now.

1421
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: It must be bizarre to have an interview that you

1422
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: did a couple of years previously and then see a

1423
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: movie that almost mimics the interview that you did of

1424
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: the two guys. Uh yeah, I mean Michelle a same

1425
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: thing the interview I did with her pretty much hern

1426
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: into her biopic. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, uh yeah,

1427
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean that, But that's that That's why I do them,

1428
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, so some someone could look at it and say, hey, this,

1429
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: let's put some more money behind it and bring it

1430
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: into a bigger production. You know. I feel like not

1431
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: everyone is gonna get uh like, a full blown documentary

1432
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: made about them, but a lot of people have lad

1433
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: TV documentaries made about them, you know, like that. I

1434
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 1: did an interview with the surviving member of Milli Vanilly,

1435
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, where he laid out that whole story, which

1436
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: is just a crazy, crazy story. You know there is,

1437
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: but there is no movie or documentary about him. But

1438
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: you could watch that. You could really get the whole

1439
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: story from one of the from the person who was

1440
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: there from beginning to now. So what are some of

1441
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: the upcoming interviews that you haven't even dropped yet? You

1442
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: got coming out? The back ten interviews not coming out? Yeah, uh,

1443
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: we we did. We did that. We did the interview,

1444
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: and afterwards, he just didn't want it to come out

1445
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: right now, based on some stuff that he you know,

1446
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: he's working on. Not really that he said, but yeah,

1447
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean partly, you know, he he just he just

1448
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of had second thoughts after the fact, and uh,

1449
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, we we discussed it for about for about

1450
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: six months and then yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1451
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: And what I told him is, uh, you know, because

1452
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: he's telling me about certain things that are coming up

1453
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: and he's worried the interview might potentially get in a

1454
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: way that so I I told him just flat out,

1455
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, man, And man, I said, listen, uh, I

1456
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: still own this interview, and I'm not gonna say it's

1457
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: never coming out, but I have no plans of putting

1458
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: it out for the time being. But if your ass

1459
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: die tragically anytime, so it's not that you know, I mean,

1460
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: let's say they do, uh, if they do a big

1461
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: ice Cube documentary or something like that, you know, and

1462
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: he's tied into the ice Cube story, we may put

1463
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: it out at that point. You know. I don't know,

1464
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: like I didn't, you know, I told him, I'm I'm

1465
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: not telling you I'm never putting it out. But for now,

1466
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it out. I'm just having my vault

1467
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you never know, maybe in the

1468
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: future will come out, maybe won't. Hm. We uh. Sorn

1469
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: Baker did one here on one of the guys that

1470
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: have the podcast here, did mac ten yet I heard

1471
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, but you know my I do. Mynevies

1472
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: a little different than you know, shout out to sorn,

1473
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: but my NEMI is a little different. Well, that's disappointing

1474
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: that the mcten interview is not coming out. Might be

1475
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: frustrating because I get it a lot. I might either

1476
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: do an interview and they don't want it to come out,

1477
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: or they might cancel on the cancel you cancel on you,

1478
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,480
Speaker 1: I should say, UM, talk about some of the frustrating

1479
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: incidents that you've had, either after an interview or trying

1480
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: to get the interview. Yeah, I mean we had one

1481
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: guy that canceled one didn't show up one day, and

1482
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: then showed up two hours late the second. The second

1483
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: time when the cameraman already gone home. And then we

1484
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years passed. They wanted to

1485
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: try it again, and we had two interviews set up,

1486
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: but he had some courtship that you know, he had

1487
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: to cancel last minute, and then on the day it

1488
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen, he showed up so late that

1489
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: we said we couldn't do it because we had another

1490
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: interview coming up. We're not gonna canceled on someone else

1491
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: because someone can't be you know, there on time somebody

1492
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: was cooked out. I don't know, man. You know I've

1493
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: had I've had I've had interviews where they were scheduled

1494
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: but someone got in their ear and told them not

1495
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: to do it. So they just you know, didn't show

1496
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: up that day and told us afterwards what the reason was.

1497
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: I've had, um you know, all types of ship happens, man.

1498
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 1: You ever just like just really got into a serious

1499
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody had the ball you fishing. I'm gonna

1500
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: let you with my ass type of ship you can

1501
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: go on and walk out. Uh no, man. I tried

1502
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: to treat by people respectfully, you know, if you're sitting down,

1503
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, because generally people don't get paid for these interviews.

1504
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: If you're taking time out of your you know, out

1505
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: of your important life to sit down and donate your

1506
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: time to speaking to me, I'm gonna I'm gonna treat

1507
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: you respectfully, man, And you know I'm not here. You know.

1508
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: We had a couple of times, you know, um like

1509
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: like for example, with three Greedo, things got kind of

1510
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: heated between me and him. I kept asking him a

1511
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: question that he just didn't want to answer and got

1512
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: an answer anything. Well, you know, he was on his

1513
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: way to prison to do like what twenty years or something. Yeah,

1514
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,839
Speaker 1: so he was in a certain mind state, you know already,

1515
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: and at one point he kind of got angry at

1516
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: me over an interview I was at over a question

1517
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: I was asking. So we just gotta, you know, we

1518
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: calmed down the situation. We sat down, and we finished

1519
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: the interview and we cut that part out. Did you

1520
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: almost not even uploaded the three interview? No? No, because

1521
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. Sometimes.

1522
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: I remember I did an interview with um you got

1523
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: from uh from Wu Tang and he was just would

1524
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: get angry at me every other question. So I was like, no,

1525
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: funk this interview, and I just I just shelved it

1526
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: for like a year and a half. But then the

1527
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: Woutang documentary came out on showtime and I'm like, well, ship,

1528
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: I got this unreleased Wou Tang interview that's talking about

1529
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: essentially the whole story. Fuck it. So, you know, we

1530
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: cut certain parts out where I felt like he was

1531
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: just kind of being disrespectful because because that's not the

1532
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, like certain people, you know, like the drama

1533
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 1: in the interview and like people walking out and acting

1534
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: crazy or whatever else. But but that's not the platform

1535
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to, you know, to display, you know

1536
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because then everyone's gonna come in and

1537
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: try to do something stupid in interviews, you know what

1538
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Like we're trying to set up a professional,

1539
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: respectful platform and if things get kind of stupid, we'll

1540
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: just cut it out or we just won't put up

1541
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 1: the good interviews will be Gene deal. Uh we reached

1542
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 1: out to Genem Yeah, but he's nine now. But nobody's

1543
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: in urban stuff is bigger than that. I don't care.

1544
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the Source magazine or All hip Hop,

1545
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: who were the big hip hop internet machines in the

1546
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: mid two thousands that first decade, but the Source that

1547
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: was never an internet machine never. My question is why

1548
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: didn't ever the Source and even All hip Hop tried

1549
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: to have the web site. Well All hip Hop was, yeah,

1550
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: but when you look at their platforms right now, it's nothing.

1551
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: They they didn't focus on video, yeah, they just focused

1552
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: on web that they focused on the web. You know,

1553
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, I mean my my dot com platform.

1554
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's holding steady, but it's not like growing

1555
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: like the like the video YouTube platform. Um, they just

1556
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: didn't embrace the proper technologies. They must look at you

1557
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: and say, we're supposed to be lad. Yeah, I mean,

1558
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean to take it even one step further. I've

1559
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: met with the Source and double x Cel early in

1560
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: flat TV days and offered to work with them, and

1561
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: they pretty much for like now we're good, really know,

1562
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: we know what we're doing. We don't need your help.

1563
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: Was like all right, had a Sunday Radio used to

1564
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: you know, Dave lost Dave and Benzino lost the Source

1565
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: to Londall McMillan, who was a lawyer who bought it

1566
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: out of it out of bankruptcy, and he's never taken it. Yeah,

1567
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: he never really took it seriously. I mean he runs

1568
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: his law firm out of the same office that the

1569
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: Source has run off of, you know what I mean.

1570
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: So it's like just kind of like a side hustle.

1571
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 1: It's the impression I get. So you kind of passed

1572
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: up all of the traditional hip hop platforms in terms

1573
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: of viewership and subscribers. I think, so you must be

1574
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: really like saying, yeah, these guys, I just passed everyone up.

1575
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's a surprise. I mean I was a fan,

1576
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: Like I bought every Source magazine that came out. I

1577
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: bought every Double Xcel. I would get rap Pages if

1578
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: I can find it. I would, you know, I would

1579
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: get Murder Dog if I could find it, Like you

1580
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 1: know I was and read them from cover to cover.

1581
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, I just eat them up. Uh. And you

1582
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: were if you were to telling me that would have

1583
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: a platform bigger than these guys, I just like, that's ridiculous.

1584
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: That's never gonna happen. These guys are you know, the

1585
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: Sources considered the hip hop bible. But it just comes

1586
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: down ultimately, you know, to the leadership. You know, every

1587
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 1: company needs a leader to keep elevating and recreating that company.

1588
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the great companies, uh, you

1589
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: know in the world, and you hear names like Jeff

1590
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: Bezos and Bill Gates uh and Warren Buffett you know,

1591
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: and so forth. Uh you know in jay Z and

1592
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: you know Puffy. You know, these business leaders who recreated

1593
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: themselves and reinvented themselves and pushed the business in New

1594
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, to New Heights. If you don't have someone

1595
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: at the helm doing that, it will eventually go out

1596
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: of business. Like Ebony just filed for bankruptcy. And like

1597
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you're old enough to remember, Ebony was

1598
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: a big deal, you know, to be like the Ebony

1599
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: Beauty of the month or whatever it was, Like you know,

1600
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: you would you would go and marry the president of

1601
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: some corporation after that, like you know, this this was

1602
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: a big institution and they just filed for bankruptcy and

1603
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: like it's gone, like run Ebony magazine that one of

1604
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: the eight from the White House or something. I don't know, man,

1605
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: but I know that they filed for bankruptcy and and

1606
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: like their whole staff got let go, you know, without

1607
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: pay that that type of that type of thing. You

1608
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Now they're trying to sell off

1609
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: their assets, like their photos and stuff like that. So

1610
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: nothing lasts forever if you don't have you know, great

1611
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: leadership at the helm of it. And I've tried to

1612
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: be as great of a leader as I can for

1613
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: lad TV, but I have a great staff. What's the

1614
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: future for um the platform? Because like you said, nothing

1615
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: lasts forever into some other He's gonna do a podcast

1616
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: with us, he goes, he goes, he go on his

1617
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: own TV podcast. I'm guessing that you gotta do, you

1618
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: gotta evolve, not not necessarily man like people. I mean,

1619
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: this is a common question, and people think that you

1620
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: have to do something different as opposed to just get

1621
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: better at what it is that you're good at doing.

1622
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the keype D interview

1623
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: was was something that I worked on for a while

1624
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: to get, you know, and also had to have a

1625
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: platform big enough to have something like that. React. Um,

1626
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: you have five good interviews going on right now. Yeah,

1627
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: something that you did with Nipsey. It wasn't that wasn't

1628
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: my interview. That is gonna be that given by DJ

1629
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: by DJ Charisma. You got Trade D was always good

1630
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: for you, James Mob, James got I just finished. I

1631
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: got Willie D. And you know we talked to him

1632
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: first right after Bush with Bill's passing. Um, you know,

1633
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: we we try to yeah, we try to keep yeah,

1634
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: and we try to elevate. We try to push and

1635
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: and get the you know, the bigger you know names

1636
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: and and and just really give give someone something that

1637
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: they didn't even know they wanted, you know, get him

1638
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,839
Speaker 1: a story that they have of someone that they've maybe

1639
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: heard of here there. But when you hear the story,

1640
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: it's like, oh wow, like this is this is an

1641
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: incredible story. And that's really the thing of just being

1642
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 1: a better interviewer, asking the harder questions, making a bigger impact,

1643
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: and focusing on what it is that we do best.

1644
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: And that's how we've just grown, you know, year after

1645
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: year where I think like three point three million subscribers

1646
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we just had three million video

1647
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: views in one day a couple of days ago, which

1648
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: which is a big milestone for UCE. So and that's

1649
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: just doing what it is that we've been doing the

1650
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: whole time. It's not we're doing movies now, or we're

1651
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna do script this stuff now. Now, We're doing what

1652
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: it is that we've always done. Yeah when I mean really,

1653
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: we're doing the same thing I did that I started

1654
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: eleven years ago. Are you frustrated with YouTube and their

1655
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: new policies just coming on? No, No, man, it's just like,

1656
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, we just put out more content, and uh,

1657
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: we make sure that the content is impactful content, you know,

1658
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 1: We're not just we turned down a lot of interviews.

1659
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: We we we turned down. You know, we don't just

1660
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: take everything that comes our way. I mean we get

1661
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: literally every day we probably turned don't don't YouTube get

1662
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: your plant when you get a million? Yeah, you do it.

1663
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: All that's in my office somewhere in the closet, you know.

1664
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: So what advice do you give to a young guy

1665
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: trying to start his own platform, trying to create a

1666
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: brand from scratch from zero. There's been there. There are

1667
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: successful platforms that the owners based that platform on lad

1668
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 1: TV that I've interviewed them about and that they've told me,

1669
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: like No Jumper as an example. You know, Adam twenty

1670
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: two was was watching glad TV interviews and now he

1671
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: has a dope platform right now. Yeah, trade's are they?

1672
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: He interviewed some of the same guests that that I

1673
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: interview and I do the same thing with, you know,

1674
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: people that I look and see it on his platform.

1675
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: Um Sean Cotton from Stay Chess TV, same type of thing,

1676
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: you know. In our interview, he said how he used

1677
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: to work. He was working at best Buy, watching glad

1678
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: TV interviews on his break and decided one day to

1679
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: pick up a camera and just try it. What I

1680
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: do could be achieved by anybody. Tell people copy me? Yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean because I you know, I mean, I didn't

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01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: have anyone to copy because there you know, I started

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: kind at the beginning of YouTube. But um, you know what,

1684
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: what I what I do now could be recreated by

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01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: anyone with an iPhone and a passion to actually do it.

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01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: And uh, I think there's plenty. There's enough viewers to

1687
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: go around, there's enough money to go around. You could

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01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: absolutely do it if you want to do it, absolutely,

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01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: And um, you're a big stock guy, so before you

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01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: leave here, give us a stock tip, man, because I've

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: seen you debate stock versus property. I'm a property guy,

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01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm a I'm property and stock guy. But

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01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: my property performance far better than than stocks my stocks have.

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01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: But I'm always looking for a stock tip, and you're

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01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: supposed to be the guru here with you're always debating

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01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: everyone about stock and property. Well I'm not. Uh you know,

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01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I can't give stock advice because I'm not a financial manager.

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01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I get sued for that. Ship is actually illegal to

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: just say this is a good stock. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: because if it does bad you know, they could, they

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01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: could sue you for the money they lost. Well, let

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01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: me ask this, but but I will say I will

1703
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: say this because I do want to answer your question.

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01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: I've based a lot of my methodology uh after Warren Buffett,

1705
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: who is considered the greatest stock investor of all time,

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01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: and he said that when he dies, he has very

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01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: specific instructions to the person that takes over his portfolio

1708
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: to put of all his money into the SMP five

1709
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: and keep the rest in cash. Uh. So you know,

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01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: you could have some some buying opportunities, and you know,

1711
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: for most people, that's what he thinks is the best investment.

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01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: You know, you throw you have a little piece of

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01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: the top five companies in America and you could reinvest

1714
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the dividends and over time, historically that's that's been shown

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01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: to be a great investment. You get a big coin

1716
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: before I don't. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not big. No,

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01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm not not that I missed it. I was just

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01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: never interested. Uh. You know, because the way the way

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01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I cat it is that I look at bitcoin the

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01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: same way I look at gold. For example. You know

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: that you can invest in some gold and it's just

1722
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna sit there, and you have to count on someone

1723
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: wanting to pay you more for it in the future

1724
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: than what you paid for it today. But when you

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01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: invest in a company, that company is actually making money

1726
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: every day and so always there. But when you compare

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01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, gold or diamonds or silver or whatever other

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01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: thing that just sits there versus a company that's making

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01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: money and growing, like an Amazon or a Google or

1730
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: a Facebook you know, or a who you know, Yeah,

1731
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, but they're actually making money quarter after quarter

1732
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: or year after year and getting bigger and reinvesting that

1733
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: money and making themselves bigger from all the money they're reinvesting. Consistently,

1734
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: those have outperformed anything like a gold or silver or

1735
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: anything of that story. That's kind of how I look

1736
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 1: at bitcoin. I'm it's cool, but it's just gonna sit there. Yeah,

1737
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: gold is what twelve ounce used to be three hundred

1738
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: dollars an ounced, not that long ago, like then, maybe

1739
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: ten twelve years ago gold was three hundred dollars and ounce.

1740
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: So if you would have bought gold back then you

1741
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: would have called dupled your money. Yeah, but if you

1742
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 1: bought Amazon back then you would have liked fifty times

1743
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: your money even um, Google. I remember Google with two

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01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 1: hundred dollars stock own I owned, you know, and I

1745
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: don't I don't talk about my portfolio, but I owned Google,

1746
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I own Amazon. I also own SNP five, you know. So, uh,

1747
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna buy some Google. But when when I

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01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: saw two hundred dollars a share, I was like, damn,

1749
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 1: that's a little bit too that's a little too pricey

1750
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: for at the beginning, And that was the beginning. I

1751
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: think I think it started around two hundred. Remember, Yeah,

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01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: I don't really care about where it's at right now.

1753
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: I just think, is this a company that's going to grow?

1754
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: It will just grow over time. I don't care if

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01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: it said it's all time high or whatever. Do I

1756
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: think this company is gonna grow over time? You know?

1757
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm reading this this book right now

1758
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: called A hundred of one in the Stock Market, where

1759
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: it shows the type of companies that have a hundred

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01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: times their money, meaning that if you put in ten thousand,

1761
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: you end up with a million. Uh. And there's been

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01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: like a number of companies over the years that have

1763
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 1: done that. But you you had to wait like ten,

1764
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: fifteen years, twenty years. No, No, you don't know, you know,

1765
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: it's not it's not pulling out, it's just keeping it there.

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01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: It's just keeping it there year after year after year,

1767
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: not touching it. Just like property, you know what I mean?

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01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Are you gonna do look at the your property prices

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01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: every single day? Do you look to see what the

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01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: house next door so sold to you every single day? No?

1771
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 1: You've probably you know, as a as a property investor,

1772
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee that you've made your money by

1773
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: holding that property over a long period of time. And

1774
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: I've regretted selling some properties when I should have never

1775
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: sold something exactly. Some of my biggest financial mistakes was

1776
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: selling a property because I was gonna make this amount

1777
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: of money, but holding it I would have made this

1778
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: amount of money times ten. So same thing with stocks.

1779
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Right down the street. The building that death Row was

1780
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: in I used to own. I owned the ability marted

1781
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: from ship because he had to pay off some debts

1782
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 1: three million dollars finance three million dollars. He stopped making

1783
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: the payments, of course, so I lost it. I had

1784
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: to get rid of it. I just read somewhere about

1785
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: it six months ago. The building so for nineteen million,

1786
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, nineteen. Well, the mortgage on three

1787
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: million was probably like a month we have bad loan

1788
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: had it was fort five six thousand a month for

1789
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: a million dollars loan, so times after three But um, glad,

1790
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming down. I hope

1791
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: we weren't too hard on you. I know you used

1792
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: to this already. But you don't really do a lot

1793
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: of interviews, not a lot, not a lot. Why is that?

1794
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: What if I promote the platform or you don't really

1795
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: need that, Like like my my policy over the past

1796
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: year or so, was that only going to do interviews

1797
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,879
Speaker 1: with people that have been on my platform, like China Mac. Yeah, exactly,

1798
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: like people that have come to me and then interviews

1799
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: with me when they want an interview, you know, with them,

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01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. So I did No Jumper recently, I

1801
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: did China Mac. Aaron Foster has a podcast. I did something. Yeah,

1802
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean you know this one here, Lord Jamaar did

1803
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 1: something with him. Yeah, you know what I mean, podcasts,

1804
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: you know, Because honestly, I mean, I could do whatever

1805
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: platform I wanted to do if I wanted to, but

1806
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm not really tripping off. I'd rather support the people

1807
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: that have supported me. I saw you on the Breakfast Club,

1808
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: and I don't think, oh yeah, he can't he comes

1809
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: on your show. Not anymore, Charlemagne, not anymore? All right,

1810
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: real quick, tell us why before we wrap this up?

1811
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: Is what it is? That was one of your regulars too.

1812
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 1: It was, it was and a lot of those interviews

1813
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: did quite well. So you guys had a fallen out

1814
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: or something something like that. Can't get into it. It

1815
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's been like three years. I

1816
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: think since he's been on the platform. We've more than

1817
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: doubled our traffic since then. So have you tried to

1818
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: make amends with him? Arrogant? You can't make meends with

1819
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: an arrogant person. He is very arrogant. All right, Glad,

1820
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming down. I'm sure Red and James

1821
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: thanks you as well. Thanks for coming in and being

1822
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: on another episode of the Gangster Chronicles and we're out.

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01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me Y. Just appreciate you, Glad.

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Speaker 1: This has been a digital Sobutch network production.