1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I got to tell you before I even give the 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: date or what we're doing, or what the title is 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: or what my name is, I'm pretty excited this morning. 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate another edition of the Late Kick Extra 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: podcast for Tuesday morning, January nineteenth, the Year of Our Lord, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. And the reason I'm excited is not 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: because the season's over that you can shed some tears over. However, 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: this is where we get to get a little bit 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: more loose with the podcast and the format. We get 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: a few more creative questions. I mean, you guys have 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: really brought it today. I've got a lot that already 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm ready to spill over into the Thursday morning podcast. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: A quick reminder on what the format is here, it's 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: all Q and a wall to wall. You drive it, 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: I follow you, ask, I answer. You can submit questions 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: via email Josh Pate seven zero six at gmail dot com. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: You can follow me first off on Twitter at Latekickjosh 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: and then send me direct message. Is there and this 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: is really good stuff, So I try to get to 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: as many as possible. And I told you as we 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: get into the off season, I'm going to try and 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: go back to more of that rapid fire style that 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: most of you say that you like better, which is 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: fit as many possible questions as we can into a 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: podcast instead of picking just two or three and stretching, because, 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, that's what we do on 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live. We go a little bit more in 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: depth and get a little bit more granular in our 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: detail on those segments. And obviously there's a marketplace for that, 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: and there's a marketplace for the quick hitting type stuff. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: But what we try and do here is we go 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: as many angles as possible. It's wide open. I've got 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of college football questions, obviously, but you guys 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: have sprinkled in some non college football questions this morning, 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: and I get just as excited about those. So let's 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: dive right in. I think it's obvious where we're going 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: to go ahead and start. I don't know which name 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: to pick out of the hat, cause it seems like 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: about fourteen million of you, give or take a few, 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: asked about the Tennessee situation. And for the record, if 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: you go on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel, 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I put a full reaction video up. As I told 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: director Colin when we were walking out of the studio Sunday night. 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I kidded with him, but I ended up being pretty prophetic. 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, we don't have another live show until 46 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night, but don't worry, we'll be talking about Jeremy 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Pruitt being fired tomorrow. And sure enough, it happened exactly 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: along that timeline. Full disclosure. Now that this has happened, 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: I can sort of peel the layers back. There are 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: going to be some more layers. I can't peel back, 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: but someone is going to peel back fairly certain and 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: that has to do more with the details of what 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: exactly happened here. There's a lot of reporting that's been 54 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: done on this. I think some of the reporting was 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: frowned upon at the time. A lot of the reporting 56 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: was called out at the time and ended up being 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: dead on the money. Our buddy Trey Wallace, who I 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: appear with on radio in Knoxville every week, has done 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: a really good job on this. Mark schleaybaw Chris Lowe 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: at ESPN, they've done a really good job. Pete Family 61 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: with Yahoo actually was the first to break the story 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: yesterday morning of Prewitt being fired. All that's going to 63 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: come out in the wash. It's going to be details that, 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: as I'm about to talk about, you're not gonna be 65 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: if you're a Tennessee fan so much mad at From 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: the ethical perspective, you're gonna listen to the details and 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna think, by and large, yeah, okay, we did that, 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: but I think a lot of our rivals probably do that. 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't have the evidence, but I think we do, 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: or I think they do. That's not where you're gonna 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: have a serious bone to pick. You're gonna have a 72 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: serious bone to pick from the procedural standpoint. And what 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna say when all the details surface is, 74 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: how could we be this stupid? I mean, how could 75 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: we not know? This is pure amateur hour? Like, if 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna drive ninety miles an hour in a seventy 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: mile an hour zone, at least have a radar detector, 78 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: at least turn on the ways app Like, don't just 79 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: drive through downtown going ninety with your middle finger waving 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: out the window. That's just asking for it. That's where 81 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get really grade a ticked off if you're 82 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: a Tennessee fan and if you're a rival fan, you're 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna look and just shake your head and scoff and 84 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: go gow man again, pure amateur hour. That's one of 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the prices you. I've talked about this before. Some of 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: you have pushed back on it with some anecdotal examples. 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: But I have always told you, if I'm running a 88 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: major program, I am not handing the keys to that 89 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: vehicle over to a first time head coach. I'm not 90 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: doing it because I don't have to do it. I 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to do it. Now, you guys have pushed back, 92 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: and you have given me the exceptions to the rule, 93 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: some of you, not all of you. You'll say, what 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: about Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma? What about Kirby at Georgia? 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: What about Ryan Day at Ohio State? And I say, yeah, 96 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: those are great examples. Okay, Now are you ready for 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: the three or four dozen that I could throw back 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: at you, Jeremy Pruitt being the latest that prove okay, 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: those are the exceptions to the rule. There's a lot 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: that you need to know how to do as a 101 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: head coach that you only have one way to learn, 102 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and that's being a head coach. Do you want to 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: let someone learn the hard lessons on your dime. My 104 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: answer has always been known, so what I think about 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: it largely was summed up in the video that I 106 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: put out. But I think there's a couple of things 107 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: to note here are first and foremost, as I said, 108 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this was such an ethical dropping of 109 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: the ball as much as it was a procedural dropping 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: of the ball. It's not so much what you did, 111 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: it's how you did it and how you didn't do it. 112 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: But then the other part that's kind of concerning. And 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the reason I'm not even talking about which coach is 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: going to take over there, it's because I don't think 115 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: that's at the forefront right now. That's not the conversation 116 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: to me. The conversation to me right now is when 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: is it over Look? What do we know one way 118 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: or the other? That was one of the questions asked 119 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: to the chancellor there and the President and Philip Fulmer 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: at the press conference yesterday, Hey, when is this investigation 121 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: going to end? Well? The answer was, remember this is 122 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: a two pronged investigation. We've got our internal investigation. And 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: the answer to that was, well, it could end pretty soon. 124 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: But then there's the NCAA investigation, and the answer was, 125 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no clue from the chancellor herself. 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know when the NCAA investigation is going to end. 127 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: But they did say they expect multiple Level one and 128 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Level two violations. I mean, those are big time, heavy 129 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: hitter violations. You're gonna have says handed down. Don't know 130 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: how severe they're going to be, but you're going to 131 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: have sanctions handed down and all the while, Kevin Steele 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: is not in the interim role. That's not what they 133 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: named him. They named him acting head coach, not interim 134 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: head coach. I think if you just read the tea 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: leaves here, I don't care what they said at that 136 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday. Kevin Steele was brought in as an 137 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: insurance policy if and when they had to fire Jeremy Pruitt, 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: and they have since done that. To be your head coach, 139 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that's what he's there for. And it wouldn't shock me 140 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: at all if he was the head coach throughout spring, 141 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't shock me at all if when they 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: teed it up whenever we finally do to start the 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season, if he was still the head 144 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: coach In fact, if I had to place money right now, 145 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: that's where I'd place a few of my shekels is 146 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: in the corner of Kevin Steele to be the head 147 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: coach in twenty twenty one. As you just get stuff 148 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: figured out, That's what's up with the Tennessee situation right now. 149 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: As we move on this morning, because as I promised, 150 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: we're not going to take ten minutes per answer. Foster asked, 151 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: you talk about the importance of culture and college football 152 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: programs a lot on your show. What do you think 153 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: are maybe the top two or three factors to building 154 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: a dominant culture And do you think Texas A and 155 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 1: M football has that culture with Jimbo that can rival 156 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: the top blue bloods in the sport like Alabama, Clemson, 157 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State, etc. I think you're on your way at 158 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. So you asked for the two 159 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: or three, I'll give you three. You got to have 160 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the right head coach first and foremost, you got to 161 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: have the right leadership in place, and I think athletic 162 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: director president like, there are a lot of key figures 163 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that have to be on board with the direction of 164 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: the organization, which brings me to my next point, which 165 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: is organizational buy in. You can. It doesn't even matter 166 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: if you have the right coach. If he keeps getting 167 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: told no, whereas your rivals are getting told yes, you're 168 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: dead in the water. If you don't get the facility 169 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: upgrades that you need, if you can't get the support 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: staff size that you need, if you can't get as 171 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: many analysts as you need, if you can't get your 172 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: recruiting budget approved, if so many things that you need 173 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: because the Alabamas and Georgia's and Clemsons have you can't 174 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: get because the entire organization isn't bought in, then you 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: don't have what it takes. And the third thing is 176 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: you have to take what's in your mind and you 177 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: have to have the ability to sell that vision to 178 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: players and your staff and have them buy into it. 179 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, when you listen most recently to a team 180 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: like Alabama win a title and you listen to their 181 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: players talk and you watch, you know the fact that 182 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: like Jalen Waddle and guys like Land and Dickerson, I 183 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: mean they're fighting to try and get on the field 184 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and a game that they don't need to be on 185 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: the field, and a game that a lot of people 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: are criticizing them, even mildly from the outside world for 187 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: being on the field during because they're injured. Like that 188 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: is culture, just bleeding through your TV screen and yelling 189 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: at you. This is what championship culture looks like. But 190 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: really what it is is just getting folks to be 191 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: process oriented over result oriented. And that's the ability to 192 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: rewire the brains of seventeen and eighteen and nineteen year 193 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: old kids to stop thinking about individual awards, accolades, stop 194 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: thinking about the prize that you're chasing, put all that 195 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: to the side, and have the ability to make those 196 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: kids think about every single doing what it takes to 197 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: achieve it. You may be able to get some individuals 198 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: to do that. When you can get an entire organization 199 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: to do that, that's when you got a dominant culture. 200 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: That's when you're giving yourself a shot to potentially compete 201 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: for a national championship. You got to have all those 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: boxes checked just to put yourself in the arena. Then 203 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: once you put yourself in the arena, you find out 204 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: there are a few other programs that have accomplished things 205 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: to that degree as well. Bama's one of them. Any 206 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: given year, Buckeys, Clemson Tigers, Georgia Oklahoma. Maybe someone from 207 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: the West coast steps up eventually, Like, all those teams 208 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: are in that arena, and you could add Texas A 209 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: and M to the mix for example. That's why I 210 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: really love watching those teams when they go head to head. 211 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about some high level competition that 212 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: you'll look back on decades from now and still enjoy 213 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: because of that reason. Let's see here. Okay, Caleb is 214 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: next up here we go off the beaten path a 215 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: little bit already. This morning, Caleb said, you've mentioned a 216 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: time or two how you like storm chasing. I wanted 217 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: to know what's the most danger You're a situation you 218 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: found yourself in. All right, now, I think I have 219 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but we got a ton of 220 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: new listeners, Like month over month, we've added a ton 221 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: of listeners to the show in the podcast, and you 222 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: know what, this is a fun story, probably to listen 223 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to on repeat. Anyway. So the last two years, on 224 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: March third, I've been in extreme close proximity to an 225 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: EF four tornado both of those days. Now, once it 226 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: was my option, the other it was not my option. 227 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: March third, twenty nineteen. We are chasing storms. Is a 228 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: very active weather day across the southeast. I got a 229 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: group that I chase with I have for a long time. 230 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: We're down in Dothan, Alabama. There is a massive supercell 231 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: coming through Montgomery, Alabama, just south of Montgomery, Alabama, and 232 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: these cells are moving south southwest north northeast about thirty 233 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: to fifty miles an hour. They move at a pretty 234 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: good clip in the spring in the southeast, so we 235 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: think we have time to shoot back up the highway 236 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: and roughly meet this cell in the Auburn Lee County Opelikah. 237 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: That kind of air are so we're booking it north, 238 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: hoping that there is no law enforcement between here and there. 239 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: We get to Phoenix City, Alabama, and then start to 240 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: head west on Highway two eighty. This is a confirmed tornado. 241 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: It's on the ground. I've got it pulled up and 242 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: pinged on radar scope. Combined with our current location, it's 243 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: just a storm chasing weather app really good one. I 244 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: mean it's affordable if you're a weather nerd. I download 245 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: radar scope and so we also back at our home 246 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: base at the news station that I was working at 247 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: at the time, my good buddy Dana Barker, along with 248 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: our chief meteorologist there who at the time was Miller Robson. 249 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: Like they're anchoring coverage from the studio, we are reporting 250 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: live from the field. So it is a big time storm. 251 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: The all the classic signatures are on radar. There is 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: a clear debris ball that's evident on radar, so we 253 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: know we got a really big tornado on the ground, 254 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: and we are coming in from the northern flank, which 255 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: is a terrible place to be. That is in the 256 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: meteorological and storm chasing industry a term called core punching, 257 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: which is where you're going to have to go through 258 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: the highest percipit petation portion of a super cell instead 259 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: of coming in from the south where you get a 260 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: nice clear, picturesque view. I know where we are. Our 261 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: driver does not. Our driver was relatively new. He's taken 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: instruction for me. He is not a weather type. He 263 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: is a dude that we can use the car of 264 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: type if you catch my drift. And so I kept 265 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: him wilfully ignorant of where we were and how close 266 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: we were. We got a E four tornado on the ground. 267 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: This tornado ends up killing twenty three people. We get 268 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: as close as we can and then we turn around 269 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: and we got about a minute minute a half before 270 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: it crosses the path where we were at, so we 271 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: get out of there, we let it cross, we come 272 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: back in behind it. It's devastation, unlike anything you could 273 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: possibly imagine. The first thing when you're in a heavily 274 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: wooded area and a tornado has come through, the smell 275 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: of pine, especially in the South, the smell of pine 276 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: from all the trees that have been snapped it momentarily 277 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: stops up your nostrils as much as if you were 278 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: to step outside a seventy two degree room into sub 279 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: zero road degree temperatures. That's how thick it is. And 280 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: there were a lot of terrible things that we ran into, 281 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: so it was a really bad situation. It took help 282 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: first responders. It took quite a while to get in 283 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: there because of the total tree damage. Not extensive, it 284 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: was total. It's the first time I had ever personally 285 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: witnessed debarking of trees. It was that violent of tornado. 286 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: It was rated right around the same intensity as the 287 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: tornado that hit Tuscaloosa back in twenty eleven. That one 288 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: took over forty lives. This one took over twenty lives. 289 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: But that one was March third of twenty nineteen, and 290 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the search and rescue that happened thereafter was something that 291 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: kept us out. I think we were out there all night, 292 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: and I ended up going live from just outside Beauregard, Alabama, 293 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: where the core of the damage was, at six o'clock 294 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: the next morning. I don't think we went home actually, 295 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, So that was a wild, wild night. 296 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I then moved to Nashville this last January, and then 297 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: March third year to the day of that experience, March third, 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, it is well after midnight. There are severe 299 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: storms moving through, which means I don't sleep. Now, obviously 300 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I was not out chasing in the middle of the 301 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: night in a new city, but I was following the 302 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: situation pretty closely. And there is a cell going across 303 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: northern Davidson County, which is where Nashville, Downtown Nashville is. 304 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: So I live in this big apartment complex. I live 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: right in the middle of downtown Nashville, so I know 306 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm looking at. Again, I got it pinged 307 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: on radarscope just like a year prior, except I'm in 308 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: an apartment building instead of in a car, a Kia 309 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Soul for the record. So I high tail it down 310 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: to our stairwell as that tornado starts to move through downtown. 311 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Extremely violent, shook the entire building. This is a new building, 312 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: This place has not been here all that long. I 313 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: was the only person in the entire complex that got 314 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: to the stairwell in time. Our building got side swiped 315 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: by the tornado itself. We had some damage, we had 316 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: some structural damage, but we didn't have a single fatality here. 317 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Others around here, we're not so lucky. That one carried 318 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: with it several fatalities, a couple of them right across 319 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: from me, a couple a dozen more across the river 320 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: into East Nashville and points beyond there. And that was 321 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: another EF four tornado, and that one was total chaos. 322 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything that I could do other than 323 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: go to the roof of the parking garage because I 324 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: didn't know how structurally sound the building still was, and 325 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: I just watched out over the city totally dark. I 326 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: could still see power flashes in the distance from where 327 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: the torn interstill on the ground, and it's moved across 328 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: the Cumberland River. It's moved into East Nashville and beyond. 329 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: It was doing terrible, terrible stuff over there. So I 330 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: remember there was no power. The fire alarm screamed for hours, 331 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: hours and hours, several hours. Couldn't go to sleep. We 332 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: had a very very important day at work the next day. 333 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: I remember this. I was still pretty new at twenty 334 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: four to seven, and we were launching late Kick that week. 335 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: We had our first and only dry run that we 336 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: were even going to schedule. Director Colin and I that day, So, 337 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I working work that day was not an option. 338 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Had a big editorial meeting that day. I mean, these 339 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: things should pale in comparison and in retrospect. They really 340 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: should have. But I mean, I know I'm okay at 341 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: that point, and it's not necessarily a new environment for me. 342 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Everyone else is freaking out, screaming, understandably, so I'm just 343 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, is there a way to go 344 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: to work today? Can I make it happen? And I 345 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: ended up making it happen. But those were really crazy times. 346 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I've lived here in Nashville a year, actually, 347 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: oh man, so a year ago today, Well, congratulations, you 348 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: just witnessed me realize my one year anniversary living here, 349 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: not even live. But you know what, Jordan, let's just 350 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: leave it in there. So let's clap. Okay, all right, 351 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: applause for one in here. Let's we don't have champagne, 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: but we can do that sound effect with our mouth. 353 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: All Right, we're good. Now, the celebration is over. We 354 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: return to our normally scheduled podcast. And in the time 355 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I've been here, everyone's ended up going through the pandemic. 356 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: But can you say that your building has been hit 357 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: by a tornado and been a couple of blocks away 358 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: from a bombing? Because I can. It's not necessarily something 359 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: to brag about, but it is something that I will, 360 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: in extremely dramatic fashion, tell my kids one day. All Right, 361 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: we roll on this morning. We're we going next. Declan 362 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: asks how long until other major Power five programs find 363 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: their David Bluu and Matt Ray. One could argue those 364 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: two people from Indiana were the cause of Indiana suddenly 365 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: being good and Alabama's high level of dominance. This is 366 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: a good point. So if you don't know who Matt 367 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: Ray and David Blue are. They are the sports science 368 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: and strength and conditioning duo that Nick Saban went to 369 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: hire after what was labeled as a crippling blow was 370 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: dealt to his program. When Kirby Smart hired. Scott Cochran, 371 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: who had been there a long time, talked about this 372 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot on Lake Kick Live there the night kind 373 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: of chuckled at the notion that that was a crippling blow, 374 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: and we called that at the time, So, I mean 375 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: we were all over that that internally. I mean they 376 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: had had a problem at Alabama for a while. Nick 377 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Saban was looking for a change. He definitively upgrades his 378 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: program when he added Ray and Blue. Now, I think 379 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: this is a really good observation from Declan here. It's 380 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: not just that Alabama looked great this year. I mean 381 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: they've been there less than a year and I certainly 382 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: saw their impact. I think Devonte Smith was a different 383 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: player this year. Guy had a different gear, different yard 384 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: after catch, explosive type traits that I didn't see from 385 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: him a year before. I think Najie Harris added several 386 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: million dollars onto his NFL value because of being around 387 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: those guys. So they're good to follow on Twitter too. 388 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: But those guys this year, Yeah, they were responsible for 389 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: largely an injury free season. There were a few blows 390 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: dealt to Alabama, but nothing in terms of lower extremity 391 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: injuries to the degree that they had in years past. 392 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: I can't definitively prove that. I can just tell you 393 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: anecdotally that's the case. But Declan pointed out, what about Indiana. 394 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: You know, the residue from those guys being in Indiana 395 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: could still be felt Indiana. You could not explain by 396 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: mere recruiting rankings why Indiana was so good this year. Now, 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: was it solely because of a sports science and strength 398 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: and conditioning duo. I wouldn't say that. I think Tom 399 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Allen had a lot to do with that. I think 400 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: offensive talent had a lot to do with that. But 401 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're kidding yourself if you don't think that 402 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: there's a role at least that they played there. Now, 403 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: the second question he asked is when does everyone else 404 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: get theirs? Well, it's already in the process of happening. 405 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: Now these guys are and now they are renowned as 406 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: the best in the business. Some people thought they were 407 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: already and Nick Saban certainly did. And so the new 408 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: hunt in this sport is to find the best strength 409 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: and conditioning slash sports scientist types out there. And I 410 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: told you, guys, if you were watching in the spring 411 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: when these when this duo was hired at Alabama, I 412 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: told you you know, there was some internal thought that 413 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: LSU had passed Alabama in this arena, in the sports 414 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: science arena, LSU. I agreed with this. By the way 415 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: LSU had bypassed Alabama, Well, it was brief. Nick Saban 416 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't let that last long. And so now when you 417 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: look around at what the big moves are programs are 418 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: trying to make in the off season, there are two 419 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: areas to look at. Number one and it's completely unrelated 420 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: to this. The first area is everyone is looking because 421 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: of the transfer portal, to add another leg to their 422 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: scouting departments. You've always had your high school scouting departments, 423 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: most of them have had JUCO scouting departments, But now 424 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: because so many guys are transferring in college, you have 425 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: to have sort of a college an FBS FCS scouting department. 426 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: You got to have scouted other players in college because 427 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: chances are some of them are going into the transfer portal, 428 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: and you may need help from the transfer portal. So 429 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: you got that. But then also everyone wants to be 430 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: on the cutting edge of support science. Everyone is upgrading 431 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: their facility plans to include what Alabama has in these 432 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: sports science department. I mean, they've got immaculate facilities, and 433 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: it's all functional, it's all purpose driven. It's impressive to 434 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: be around. I can tell you now. As we move 435 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: on here and I take a little sip of caffeine, 436 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: excuse me for a second. Oh nice. I'm recording this 437 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: extremely late at night, so chances are, because of what 438 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm drinking right now, I will not have slept by 439 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, which is okay, That's 440 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: what God made the off season for. So Daniel's got 441 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: a good question that a lot of you have been 442 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: asking lately, or at least a version of you, guys 443 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: have been curious with all this talk about expand the 444 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: playoff here and pay players there and NCAA sanctions looming 445 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: over here. Some of you have asked, Hey, what about 446 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: that night Commission report we heard a lot about in 447 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: the middle of the season, and that's the one that recommended, Hey, 448 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: the top programs. Why don't you just split entirely and 449 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: form your own sport, like, form your own new college football. Well, 450 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: I got a couple of thoughts on it, and i'll 451 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: give them to you right after this. As promised, here's 452 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: the question from Daniel. I'll answer it after this now 453 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: that it's the off season. I wanted to get your 454 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: opinion on the Night Commission recommendation from early December that 455 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: FBS football break away from the NCAA and form their 456 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: own separate system. Do you think it would be advantageous 457 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: for football to be under its own governance? If so, 458 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: what would you want to see this new governing bodyccomplished? Well, 459 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: you named it, Daniel, so let's first go into the 460 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: hypothetical land where this does happen. I think self governance 461 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: is what it's all about. And self governance essentially means 462 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: you're doing away with the nc DOUBLEA as your sanctioning 463 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: or governing body. So it's no longer the nc DOUBLEA 464 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: that investigates, it's no longer the NCUAA that hands down ruling. 465 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean you've gotten together with whether it be thirty 466 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: other schools or seventy five other schools, you have formed 467 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: your own ecosystem, and you form your own governing body. 468 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: How you do that is up to you. How you enforce, 469 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: which rules do you want to enforce, Which rules do 470 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: you want to do away with? How do you define amateurism? 471 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: What is a student athlete? Do you adopt the Olympic model? 472 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: All that stuff about compensation and name, image and likeness, 473 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: you handle that amongst yourselves. But that is the main 474 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: goal right there, the ability with too much money on 475 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: the line, to self govern instead of handing that out 476 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: to a third party, in this case the NC DOUBLEA. 477 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Now there are obviously several hurdles. The Night Commission had 478 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: no authority. I mean, the Night Commission was just sort 479 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: of a group that got together and said, okay, we're done. 480 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Here is what we think you guys do with it 481 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: what you want. They were a glorified consulting firm, so 482 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: you got a lot of contracts that are in place. 483 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: This is like walking into five different spider webs at 484 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: one time and then trying to figure out how to 485 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: get all that web off of you. Well, that's about 486 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: how hard this would be to accomplish. However, it would 487 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: not be impossible to accomplish. You know, you take a 488 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: blowtorch to yourself. It's gonna take care of the spider web. 489 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get burns all over yourself, but hey, 490 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: you'll be free of the spider webs. You got to 491 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: get yourself out of TV contracts. I mean you've got 492 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: interconference contracts, You've got scheduling contracts. I mean, you've got 493 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the sport figured out over the next 494 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: several years contractually in many cases that you'd have to 495 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get yourself out of. Is 496 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: this something that you adopt but you plan to enact 497 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty seven season. You've got TV contracts 498 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: years and years and years down the road that have 499 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: already been agreed to. How does this change that? There 500 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of questions, obviously, you'd have to ask. 501 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: I think it's much more something that exists in a 502 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: hypothetical world than any other world. What I'd be looking at, 503 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: and what I am looking at more so than maybe 504 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: the Night Commission recommendation being adopted, is when are we 505 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: going to get the next round of conference expansion? That's 506 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: what I'm looking at. I don't care about playoff expansion. 507 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm against it. You guys know my feelings there. What 508 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: about conference expansion? You know, instead of spending all this 509 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: time arguing and debating over whether Cincinnati and Central Florida 510 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: should have a shot in the playoff, I'm more interested 511 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: if there's going to come a time where Cincinnati has 512 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: a shot to join the Big Ten or Central Florida 513 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: has a shot to join the ACC, Houston, Memphis and 514 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: the SEC. Like, I'm interested who gets the next shot 515 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: at the Power five table. That's what I'm more interested in. 516 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: Dwight is next up? Now? Dwight asked a longer question. 517 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm kind of paraphrasing the very end here. He said, 518 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: how are we going to know when the Alabama dynasty 519 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: actually is coming to an end? And this is born 520 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: off of something I was talking about the other night. 521 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: I did a very lengthy segment on Lake Kick Live. 522 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: You can find it on the YouTube channel. It's got 523 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: its own individual cut now over there if you just 524 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: want to watch this portion where I was talking about 525 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: how laughable it was in retrospect to think about all 526 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: the times that people had talked about the Alabama dynasty. 527 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's Dynasty's coming to an end, and there was 528 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: the time where everyone thought the hurry up, no huddle 529 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: was going to pass Alabama by Well, then Nick Saban 530 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: evolved and stayed on top of the sport. And then 531 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: there was the well, Clemson has bypassed Alabama, Dabo Swinny 532 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: has bypassed Alabama. Yet here they are as a program, 533 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: as a head coach, still on top of the sport. 534 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: And then most recently, I mean, I'm not kidding when 535 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: I told you just earlier last year when Scott Cochran 536 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: left Alabama. Like a lot of people have forgotten this now, 537 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: at the time, that was viewed as a borderline death blow. 538 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there were very reputable people, extremely bright and 539 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: normally really sharp folks in our industry suggesting that was 540 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: one of the biggest blows ever to Alabama. Not only 541 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: was it not and never was, but Nick Saban upgraded 542 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: his program because of that, and now they are reaping 543 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: the benefits in the form of yet another national championship. 544 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: The answer to Dwight's question, when will you actually know? 545 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Because that was how he phrased it, He said, Okay, 546 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: all this has happened, and it's not a sign that 547 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: Alabama's dynasty is slowing down. Well, what are we going 548 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: to know if it is Dwight. The answer is when 549 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Nick Saban retires, that will be the first sign, and 550 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: then you've got to talk about who they're hiring to 551 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: replace him. But that's the sign that you're waiting on. 552 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: And the bad news for those of you who are 553 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: not Alabama fans or do not like Alabama is I 554 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: don't think that's coming anytime soon. And normally you would 555 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: think to yourself, Okay, well, even if he's not going 556 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: to retire anytime soon, well, as he's getting older, obviously 557 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: things will start to wane and year over year the 558 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: product will start to deteriorate. No, it won't. There's no 559 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: sign of that. I want you to think about this. 560 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Right before I started recording, I thought about this. Nick 561 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Saban is going to be seventy this year. When he 562 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: was hired at Alabama back in two thousand and seven, 563 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: he was like mid fifties, and he was going to 564 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: go on in two thousand and nine, eleven, and twelve 565 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: to win three national titles in four years. What if 566 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: I were to tell you during that stretch, hey, yeah, 567 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: this is nice and it's really impressive that he's going 568 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: to win three national titles in four years. But this 569 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: program's not even close to what he's going to have 570 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: about eight or nine years from now. And I'm serious 571 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: about that. Like those teams were really good. Nick Saban's 572 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: never had an Alabama football program operating at the level 573 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: he's got it operating at right now. They have not 574 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: consistently recruited at the level they're recruiting at right now 575 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: since he's been there, and that includes a ton of 576 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: number one classes. The classes he's putting together right now 577 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: are all time historic. The offenses he's putting on the field, 578 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: the talent he's sending to the NFL, it's all time historic. 579 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: The coaching staffs that he has been assembling all time historic. 580 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: So it's not just that he's not slowing down. They're surging. 581 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: He's about to be seventy this year. They're surging. So 582 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't see any sign in the near future that 583 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: things are slowing down. But the answer, Dwight, is when 584 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: he retires, that is when I will believe that it's 585 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: slowing down, and not until them. All right, We've got 586 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: a good couple of questions here from Isaac. First question, 587 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: why is there so much negativity surrounding the sport of 588 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: college football that seems to not exist in other sports. 589 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: It feels like all I hear these days are questions 590 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: about Clemson and Alabama ruining college football, or whether the 591 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: Playoff needs to expand, and because it hasn't, college football 592 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: is being ruined. It seems like people are always talking 593 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: about what needs to be better instead of enjoying what 594 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: a great sport we already have. Now, if you didn't 595 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: know any better, you think I wrote that question because 596 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: I agree with every word of it. I said as 597 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: much on the show the other night. Ninety five percent 598 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: of you approved of it. Some of you thought I 599 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: took too much of an adversarial tone. Maybe you're right, 600 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: but I meant it, and I meant every word of 601 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: it and felt every word of it, and I wholeheartedly agree, Isaac, 602 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: with what you're saying here. It's never it's always boggled 603 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: my mind to be around people who seem to be 604 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: miserable covering the sport I love now. Similarly, I guess 605 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: a molecular biologist would look at me being bored out 606 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: of my mind doing what they love to do for 607 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: a living, and they may scratch their head. But here's 608 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: the difference. You don't accidentally become a molecular biologist. Most 609 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: of the time you have had to seek out that 610 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: specific profession. No one just trips into one. You may 611 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: trip into becoming a secretary, and not like being a secretary. 612 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: You may be an accountant and just kind of fell 613 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: into that role and you don't really love it. Those 614 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: are much more popular and widely available jobs compared to 615 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: a molecular biologist. I feel the same way about our business. 616 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: There is so much demand and thirst to get in 617 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: this industry, and there are so few amounts of jobs 618 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: within the industry. How does anyone just happen to grab one. 619 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: I've never accepted that explanation, and so the only other 620 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: explanation is someone sought out these roles even though they 621 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: don't love the sport. Now, when I talked about that 622 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: the other night, I had some folks pushed back on it. 623 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I intentionally, as I told you, did not mention a name, 624 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: an organization, anything like that. I didn't mention a specific 625 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: story because it wasn't about drawing attention to one person. 626 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I was drawing attention to an idea, and the idea 627 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: being I don't get why people work in this industry 628 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: if they don't love the sport. So I get the 629 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: pushback from the usual suspects that will just because everyone's 630 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: not waving the palm palm. Oh raw ray, Yeah, yeah 631 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: for college football, it doesn't mean we aren't doing meaningful work, 632 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: which I never suggested. Those were hit dogs barking the 633 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: loudest because they put words in my mouth. I didn't 634 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: put those words in my own mouth. I didn't say 635 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: those words. There's a lot of meaningful work out there 636 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: that's done. I mean, listen, a lot of people have 637 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: covered this Tennessee fiasco that's not been good news. That's 638 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: not waving the palm palm. I mean there's a lot 639 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: of reporting going on that's uncovering a lot of wrongdoing there. 640 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: I think it's been phenomenally reported. I think a lot 641 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: of the work on name, image and likeness has been 642 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: phenomenally done. I think the Baylor's sexual assault scandal was 643 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: very well reported by certain into. There's a lot of 644 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: ugly to this sport. But you're right, Isaac and saying 645 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: it is dwarfed by the beauty of the sport too, 646 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: And there's a lot more of that. And you're talking 647 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: about the types that tend to focus on the one 648 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: to ten ratio instead of the ten to one ratio. 649 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, that aggravates me just like it aggravates you. 650 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: Here's my hope. My hope is that because twenty twenty 651 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: one hopefully will not be a COVID football season, and 652 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one will not be occurring during an election season, 653 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: maybe just in this world of college football, we can 654 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: start getting back to some semblance of normalcy where no 655 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: one really cares what you believe politically again, and no 656 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: one's using their college football platform to pretend to be 657 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: a specialist on infectious disease and epidemiology, and we can 658 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: just talk about whether Clemson is going to win the 659 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: ACC again. Wouldn't that be a fun, fun world to 660 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: live in? Also, Isaac asked this. He said, I'm mostly 661 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: in agreement with you about the playoff, and it's amazing 662 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: to listen to someone who agrees. However, one argument my 663 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: friend always brings up that I don't really know how 664 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: to answer is it would be fun to watch a 665 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: lot of the potential playoff matchups if we expanded, even 666 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: if Alabama would have steamrolled who they played. He always says, 667 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: Clemson versus Florida would be fun. Ohio State versus Oklahoma 668 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: would be fun. Notre Dame versus Texas and m How 669 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: do you feel about this point, Well, yeah, they would 670 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: be fun. They would be fun. It would just come 671 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: at the expense of the regular season in a lot 672 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: of those cases. I am not a fan of any 673 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of college football playoff structure that sets up what 674 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: normally would be late season sort of de facto play 675 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: in games, and instead they're just playing for seeding. Like 676 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: in late in the season, you're gonna get conference championship matchups, 677 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: or you're gonna get the Iron Bowl, or you're gonna 678 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: get Florida Florida State, if Florida State were to ever 679 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: be good again. I mean, imagine those kinds of games. 680 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: That is the very lifeblood of college football, those regular 681 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: season do or die situations. Because of the structure of 682 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: the sport, you're playing without a safety net under you. 683 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: You have regular season win or go home type deals. 684 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: You don't have those anymore with those high rated games, 685 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: teams highly rated playing in those games, I mean, you 686 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: may just be playing for seeding. Like imagine the pressure 687 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: packed into that Alabama LSU game. Last year, or like 688 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: Iron Bowls of years past, and then imagine all of 689 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: a sudden knowing, well, whoever loses this game, the price 690 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: they're going to pay is instead of missing the playoff, 691 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: they're just going to be the sixth seed or the 692 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: seventh seed or the eight seed. That's ludicrous to try 693 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: and blend a pro sports model to the totally different 694 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: world that is college football. And listen, if Ohio State 695 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: played Oklahoma, yeah, that would be an entertaining game. I 696 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: don't believe the playoff is the end all be all 697 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: in this sport. I don't believe that's the most precious 698 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: commodity in college football. I think the regular season is, 699 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's nice to have a postseason structure 700 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: tacked on to the end of it. But I am 701 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: not willing to beef up that little thing that's tacked 702 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: on at the very end at the expense of our 703 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: most precious commodity. Our most precious commodity in college football 704 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: is the regular season. I don't care that expanding the 705 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: post season would give you a few more meaningful games. 706 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about what it takes away, and what it's 707 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: taking away is one of the most precious layers that 708 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: exist in sport, and that is the regular season layer 709 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: of urgency weekend and week out in college football that 710 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: you could no longer duplicate and you could no longer 711 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: manufacture if you had an expanded postseason, you couldn't do it. 712 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: You're right, the same teams would end up dominating. You 713 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: would have convinced yourselves you're gonna get a few more 714 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: meaningful games. You will have totally eroded the biggest game 715 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: atmospheres in regular season college football. And I'm not willing 716 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: to explore that, and hopefully they ask my opinion before 717 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: they decide this stuff down the road. So that is 718 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: how the Late Kick Extra podcast works again. You can 719 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: submit your questions Josh pat seven zero six at gmail 720 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: dot com. You can hit me up on Twitter at Latekickjosh, 721 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: give me a follow there while you're at it. 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