1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. This is publishing on Christmas Day, 3 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: so Happy Christmas to all who celebrates Ollie Jolly. All right, Well, 4 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the hoe, the mistletoe, the boor and the peanut gallery 5 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: over here is a huge what. 6 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: A scrunch You said brooge, You said woo in a 7 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: boo way? Did say woo in a boo way? Max? 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Woo and a boo way? 9 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Our super producer, mister Max Williams. Kid, he's got claws. Yeah, 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that's Noel Copenhagen Brown. They call me Ben Bullen in 11 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: this part of the world. 12 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and uh. 13 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: By us the biggest goose in all of London. This 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: is traditionous. This is a We're big fans of odd traditions. 15 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: We consider them straight seahorse teeth. So we're recording this 16 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: so I love. 17 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: That you're trying to make seahorse teeth come back. I'm 18 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: here for it. Ben. It's so funny because it's like, 19 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't even thin we acknowledged maybe we did at 20 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: one point that that is from a very early episode 21 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: of the show about wooden teeth. Or about various material teeth, right, 22 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: and they called them seahorses because not because they were 23 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: the little tiny guys, but because the horse of the 24 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: sea the hippopotamus. Yeah straight. Can you imagine making teeth 25 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: out of actual seahorses. They'd be all kit and like crunchy, 26 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: and it'd be a lot of article. It'd be a 27 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: lot of work for little return. 28 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: One of my favorite hippopotamus facts that we haven't mentioned 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: on air is that the world's most dangerous large land 30 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: animal is a vegetarian. The hippopotamus is not attacking you 31 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to eat you. It simply does not like other things. 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Right. 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: And my favorite fake hip hop line involving a hippopotamus 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: is from Fight of the Concourse or they say I'm 35 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: the hip hopopotamus. My rhymes are bottless and then. 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, like eminem in the first act of eight Mile, 37 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: we're recording this for you, folks. It's December eighteenth, as 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: we're coming in with Big into the year energy. If 39 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: you're hearing this when it publishes, it is Christmas Day, 40 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Tiny Tim lives and it's a bad day for the 41 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: biggest goose in all of London. We are again, We're big, big, 42 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: fans of traditions, especially made up ones. I guess old 43 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: tradition is made up. At some point, we think it's 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Ann's bar, we think it's Falcon Around this time of year, 45 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: we'd like to take a moment and explore some of 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the stuff we did not get to in previous episodes, 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: because we're starting a tradition. 48 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: We are, we are it was so we've done it. 49 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: We We've done some leftover episodes before, some things we didn't. 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Get to, but we did pull it at the end 51 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: of the year, like yes, now we're making it a 52 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: holiday thing. This is nole. We make no promises. 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: We'll try to keep track of it. Crack the web, Max, 54 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh good luck, Max, you got some You got some raucous. 55 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: Almost done with the States. 56 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Almost take that so if John and yeah, Max, we 57 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: got some, you got some serious cats to hurt. 58 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this in sort of three acts, the 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: first of which comes from a series when You're in 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Deear to Max's Heart, the series not of the States, 61 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: but of the Wonders of the ancient world. 62 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, And then we'll touch on tupperware. We might 63 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: have some stuff to say about hair and inventors who 64 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: died by their own hand. Okay, so we're very excited 65 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: about our Wonders of the World series. Please do check 66 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: out our upcoming episode in twenty twenty six where we 67 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: finally ask what doth a wonder make? 68 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: In this you'll s here it many times over with 69 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: varying degrees of success and Noel. 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: In advance of that episode on what makes a Wonder Wondrous, 71 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to share some of the things we didn't 72 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: get to in our previous episodes on the Wonders of 73 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: the Ancient World. How about we go to the Hanging 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Gardens conversation. 75 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. These are some deep cuts. And as 76 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: they say, the first cut is the deepest. That's because 77 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: it's made of glass, which can quite literally cut you. 78 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: We're talking about the Glass Beach in northern California. 79 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Right, the Glass Beach in Northern California. It's quite literal 80 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: when when you see the name that says glass because 81 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: once upon a time this was a city dump. 82 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm not cool with it now I'm not either, Glass Beach. 83 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: This makes me think of the horror stories my parents 84 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: told me about going to certain beaches where there'd be 85 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: like hypodermic needles washed up on the shore. This doesn't 86 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: sound cool. It's true, though. It was once a city 87 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: dumb site and now it has transformed into quite a 88 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: glittering coastline. However, it's not glittering with you know, sand 89 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: and polished stones. It is glittering with literal, actual facts glass. 90 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: From the early nineteen hundreds to the mid nineteen sixties, 91 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: bottles and cans just clap your hands and appliances were 92 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: pushed over cliffs in a sickening display of buggery into 93 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the ocean. And what emerged over time is this material 94 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: kind of I guess coalesced were polished pieces of sea glass. 95 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: And now it's a super popular tourist site along the 96 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: northern coast of California. 97 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's even a sea glass museum. 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: Now. 99 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I want to throw it a Max here. Max, you 100 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: have seen the glass Beach. Could you describe your experience? 101 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a number about ten years ago when 102 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: I was going up on the whole West coast. I 103 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: was on California one, the very famous highway, and it's 104 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: like outside of Fort Bragg, and I knew nothing about this, 105 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: but I went to this thing and I'm like, wow, 106 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: this place is really cool. I had no idea though 107 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: at the time that it was actual glass that hadd 108 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: like like the way, like the way it been created, 109 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: because it just looks like it's like some beautiful like 110 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: volcanic rock beetus, you know up there in the Port 111 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: of California, all the stands like black and. 112 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: Like volcanic and stuff. Super cool. 113 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: It looks so beautiful and like natural. And then when 114 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: I was doing this research, literally when I found out 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: how it happened, when when I was researching hanging gardens, 116 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, this is really cool, but 117 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: let's not do this again. 118 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, some mistakes are to be acknowledged and not replicated. 119 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: So life finds a way situation, you know, where it's 120 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: like sort of over time, the environment sort of adapts 121 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: to the things that people do to it. 122 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a humanity finds art in error. It 123 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: is probably way to play it like art based on error. 124 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, and this. 125 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Brings us to another thing from hanging gardens we didn't 126 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: originally get to. You ever look at a lake and 127 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: thought what if this was peak full disclosure. I have 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: thought stuff like that often because I am partially color blind, 129 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: and it's just sort of. 130 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: Great, genuine question. Yeah, I'm like, what, I don't know. 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: Maybe it is perhaps some clown tights got dunked in there. 132 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Rise of the clown Pants another classic episode. This brings 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: us to Lake Hillier. 134 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Easily mistaken for Lake Hitler. If you're looking at it 135 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: on the page, that's not what it is. Just be careful. Yeah. Yeah, 136 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: and it has a dot com with lots. 137 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Of good information about Yeah, so apparently NOL. This one 138 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: is actually a actual fact. Shout out to Lauren Vogelbaum, friend. 139 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: Of the show, Oh we saw last night at holiday. Yes, 140 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: this is a. 141 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Pink colored lake because it lies just next to the 142 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean, and if you regard it from above, the 143 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: color of the lake really pops with the blue of 144 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: the ocean. As long as you're able to see all 145 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the colors. Before we move on, we do have to 146 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: we do have to explain the mystery. Once upon a 147 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: time place was pink? 148 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Why was that? For sure? And as he said, nothing 149 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: to do with clown pants. It was to do with 150 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: micro organisms. If anyone is from or has visited the 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: Atlanta area, there is an incredible wonder of our area anyway, 152 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: called Arabia Mountain where there are these incredible little red, 153 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: bright red pools in certain areas, and it is because 154 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 2: they are habitats to these micro organisms. Specifically, in the 155 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: case of Lake Hillier, we're talking about hallow bacteria. Yeah. 156 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And as we know, fortunately or unfortunately, the pink 157 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: color has started to dissipate. 158 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: And that's the thing too. If you go to Arabia Mountain, 159 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: they don't want you to trod in those pools because 160 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: you do. They do want to preserve these ecosystems and 161 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: they are quite striking. If you ever visit that place, 162 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: it feels kind of like being on the moon or 163 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: like another yeah or something. 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Pet Cemetery too was filmed there. I spent parts 165 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: of it. I spent a lot of formative years in 166 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Arabia Mountain. 167 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: I know it well. 168 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Funny story about that, by which I mean sinister. There 169 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: were a series of ritualized murders there in the nineteen 170 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: seventies that got covered up. But don't let that ruin 171 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: your time. I love Arabia Mountain. I think everybody should 172 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: go check it out. And while you are in the area, 173 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: do please do please take an extra few hours to 174 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: visit our Lady of the Holy Spirit, the Trappist monastery 175 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: just right up the road. You can hang out the 176 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: entire time. They've got a sick bonze garden, they've got 177 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: a good cafe, they've got a great museum. The cathedral 178 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: is stunning. I would just say, watch out for the geese. 179 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: They're the only bad for that's words to live by, 180 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: ben I'll always live your life watching out for the geese, 181 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: because they'll sneak up on you when you least expect it. 182 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 183 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: I just don't know how you could live at a 184 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: place that serene and holy and still be a curmudgeon. 185 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: But the geese do it. They really do. Yeah, they're 186 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: really cranky. Not to mention the level leveled up Pokemon 187 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: form of the goose the swan, which literally dragged our 188 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: friend Scott Benjamin as a small child to his watery grave. 189 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeh almost. I think it was going for his ice cream. Yeah. 190 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: I've had some run ins with those creatures as well. 191 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: It look not to be anti swan. But anytime you 192 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: think you can trust those creatures because they are picturesque, 193 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: just pull up your Internet browser choice and look at 194 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the inside of. 195 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: The beak for sure. They're just like looking into the 196 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: maw of hell and just really quickly. I'm glad we 197 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: talked about Arabia Mountain because it does have some really 198 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: cool striking these little pools. They are apparently a very 199 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: specific type of small fragile flower, and not exactly the 200 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: same phenomenon we're talking about with Lake Hillier, but a 201 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: worthy tangent less. 202 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: The fourth largest basaltic extrusion. Actually, if you want to 203 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: be fun at parties, you might be. You might be 204 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: having a holiday shin dig and someone brings up a 205 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: pink lake and you think, well, I see you, pink lake. 206 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: I raise you Rainbow Mountain. This is This is from 207 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: our mausoleum at Halakarnassis episode that's. 208 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: Got Oh my god, there has to be a psychedelic 209 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: rock band called Rainbow Mountains. Two of those mountains too good. Yeah, 210 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: you've got Rainbow is also a band. Let's put them 211 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: together and we get Rainbow Mountain. Yeah, steal that. Yeah, 212 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: what what is the deal with Rainbow Mountain? I can 213 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: already picture it in my mind. It just seems so painterly. 214 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: Ah yeah yeah, yeah. 215 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: These are the mountains in China. The Joanie Danjia National Park. 216 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: We're going to Carly Hoak in her article twenty two 217 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Strangest Natural Wonders of the World, they these mountains in 218 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Danja have a range of colors. They have this vast 219 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: spectrum that again I probably I probably can't see, but 220 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: I hope everybody else can. 221 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 222 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: They coat the mountains throughout the year. It's all due 223 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: to layers of sediment that have settled over millions, millions 224 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of years, millennia upon millennia, and ancient people probably thought 225 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: this was painted on purpose. It looks purposeful if you pull. 226 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: Up a picture. Yeah, very painterly. Indeed, in fact, as 227 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: they put it in the piece that we were referencing, 228 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: or in Carly's piece, rather painted by the gods. And 229 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: there are more wonders to get to. Such wonder we've 230 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: showed you another. 231 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Let's move on to some Yeah, well this is another wonder. 232 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah tupperware Uh switch so no, it's true, did it 233 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: at the time? 234 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: Remarkable? An absolute game changer. 235 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: Resealable as well, remarkable and resealable. Before Tupperware, people often 236 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: would preserve their leftovers by putting a shower cap over 237 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: a bowl or a dish. 238 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Because pretty industrious. So I'm not gonna let it. I 239 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: respect the I respect the life hack of that right. 240 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: And Tupperware, as we learned, was displayed at the New 241 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: York Museum of Modern Art in nineteen fifty six in. 242 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: Total Wonder it became art deck. They got it. Yeah, 243 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: they know what modern art. Yeah, thank you both. This 244 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: is the MoMA. I love the MoMA, so I think 245 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: it's one of your favorites. To Ben, I love it too. 246 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: H this this idea of Tupperware. 247 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Uh, there's a lot of stuff we didn't get to 248 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: in that episode, but we did want to have a 249 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: couple of mentions. Are pal the inventor Tupper also invented 250 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: something called sure State hairpins, and they were supposed to 251 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: be a better way to hold the modern hair. Problem 252 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: is the product was unsuccessful. The slogan was so bad. 253 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Here's the slogan. Many women wear more or less false 254 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: hair wigs cost good money, and romance or social prestige 255 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: often hangs by the has on one's head. A good 256 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: sure stay hairpin is needed. Creepy voice like Bond villain voice, 257 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: aggressive side, a little, a little insulting, Yeah, especially like 258 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you're attacking people by trying to as a way to 259 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: try to sell stuff to them. 260 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, I just googled sure Stay hairpins and nearly 261 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: nothing comes up. Be you know why, because it was 262 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: like the hairpin that time for good. Because all the 263 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: ultimately needed in a design that hasn't changed in many, many, many, 264 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: many many years is the humble bobby pin, which you 265 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: can use to do all those things advertised and also 266 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: to pick a lock during I Sure Stay was such 267 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: a wampwomp as far as hair products go, because you don't. 268 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: It's kind of like this and beat me here for 269 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: this part, Max, because we're at the end of the year. 270 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Imagine you have your try to sell a car. Thank 271 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: you Wait for it though, imagine you tried to sell 272 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: a car right your forward and you're trying to sell 273 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: cars and you. 274 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Say, hey, buddy, fuck you, you don't have a car. 275 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: You're bad at hitch hiking. You need a Ford, And 276 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: then later and then late thank you backs, and then 277 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: later the top brass at Ford is like. 278 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: Why does no one like our cars? Is it because 279 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: we were rude to them? Mean to them? I'm surprised 280 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: anybody still likes cars considering the scheme of it. All 281 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: with the salespeople, and no shade on anybody that's a 282 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: car salesman, but they do quite frequently have a certain 283 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: aggressive demeanor. 284 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: It's unnecessary rent sinky middle man system. It's very doesn't 285 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: have to it doesn't have to happen that way, just 286 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: like privatized insurance. 287 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: We don't have to be that way. Yeah, exactly got 288 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: to be a better way, and there is, but it's 289 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: one of those things that's just been that way, and 290 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: these industries have a stranglehold on the way things are. 291 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: But you know what is pleasant? Ben? What are pleasant? 292 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: What are plus? Cartoons? Ah? Yes, we really like cartoons. 293 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to stick with the hair for a 294 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: second because in an earlier episode, courtesy of our research 295 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: associate red on hair dye, we learned some surprising things. 296 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: About Egypt and cartoons. Great. We did learn that the 297 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Rameses the Great's hair likely was red. There was a 298 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: certain prestige that went along with that. I think it 299 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: was a difficult hue to obtain and he wore it 300 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: as a bit of a flex and then everyone else 301 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: started wearing it too. It's it's escaping me a little 302 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: bit bit. Could you maybe help us fill in the 303 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: details about what was so special about red was that 304 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: a material that was more precious. Uh, the idea is okay. 305 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: So for a long time people were going back and 306 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: forth about this, because a mummified corpse of a human 307 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: sometimes when exposed to air, the the hair or whatever 308 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: fibers are left over, will react to the atmosphere and 309 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: turn red. 310 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: However, ramses our boy. 311 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Was uh, he was rocking this as sort of an 312 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: aspect of his regal persda right, because it was. 313 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Alex It was a standown. I did remember that detail. 314 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: And I can't remember what the stuff was that they 315 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: used to make it, but they mashed up all kinds 316 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: of things like like what like powdered insect shells and 317 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: various segments and all kinds of stuff. They were also 318 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: so great at cosmetics and other remedies, you know, poultices 319 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: and things. The Egyptians were onto something. But we did 320 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: promise cartoon talk and if anyone remembers the early aughts, 321 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: the earliest of aughts cartoon now our original series Courage 322 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: the Cowardly Dog. You'll remember it's sort of a monster 323 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: of the Week show wherein Courage the Cowardly Dog and 324 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: his family, the kindly farmers are menaced by some sort 325 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: of creature apparition. It's got Scooby Doo vibes, and despite 326 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: his cowardliness, Courage usually saves the day. Yes, and in 327 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: an episode from two thousand, actually this may when the 328 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: episode is from. I seem to remember Courage me and 329 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: have started a lot of those shows started in like 330 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: ninety nine, King Ramsey's Curse. The name of the episode, 331 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: the monster of that particular week was King Ramses. Ah. 332 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the red hair. I just looked back at 333 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: our previous research. The red hair was associated with royalty 334 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: and with the deity set. Okay, Yeah, So people are 335 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: still wondering whether this was a genetic familial trait. Was 336 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: this a natural redhead or day walker or was there 337 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: a dye job. We know that Ramses is redheaded. When 338 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: he plays his villainous role in encourage the cowardly dog. 339 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: To be fair, he just wants back what is his. 340 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: But then Courage and his family sort of gets swept 341 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: up in the madness and there really had nothing to 342 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: do with it. His sacred slab is toldn by Robbers 343 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: and his apparition appears outside of Courage's you know, family's 344 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: farmhouse to get it back, and our researchers associate Ran 345 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: delightfully put the quote return the slab king ramses from. 346 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: This, and there's another thing we wanted to mention about 347 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: hair Dye. Fast forward through Diamond Space to the story 348 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: of Howard Hughes. We have an episode coming up on 349 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: how he laid, but he has a little bit of 350 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: an historical footnote in the story of hair Dye. He's 351 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: a guy born in Texas. He becomes a millionaire at 352 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: the young age of eighteen. He inherits his father's estate 353 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: and he's a really chiseled looking guy. 354 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: You know, he's a Tony Stark character, right hire percent. Yeah, 355 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: a real smoke show, a real playboy. He got into Hollywood. 356 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: You know, he was a producer and maybe even director 357 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: of some very popular Hollywood properties at the time, one 358 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: of which won him an oscar. Yeah, something about PWPW 359 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: fighter planes. Some of the shots are like for the time, 360 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: were revolutionary in terms of like showing air combat and 361 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: people almost thought it was like news footage. It was 362 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: so well done. 363 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: And in our episode on hair Dye, we talked about 364 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Gene Harlowe, one of the original blonde Bombshells another smoke 365 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: show right right, because of the hair dye, which was 366 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: one of the decisions made by Howard Hughes. He signed 367 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: her up to act and then he directed her first 368 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: major role, Hell's Angels nineteen thirty. So Howard here to 369 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: get away with that swear in the title be right, Yeah, 370 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: Howard Hughes, we're saying is partially responsible for the concept 371 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: of the blonde bombshell And we cannot wait for you 372 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: to hear the rest of our the rest of our exploration. 373 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: We really leave this story out. I mean that I 374 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: did because he was a real pill about it, like yeah, 375 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: really very toxically masculine in his wanting to shape miss 376 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: Harlow in this image that he had in mind, and 377 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: to get your hair that shade of blonde back then 378 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: required all sorts of very damaging damaging not only to 379 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: the hair but to like the skin. And I think 380 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: even some of the chemicals that could have caused I 381 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: don't want to go so far to get into your 382 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: system is cons Yeah. Can we go into a little 383 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: more detail about that? 384 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I do. 385 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: I do want to huses his own thing. There's a 386 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: million things we could talk about I love how did 387 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: it go? Like, what what ended up happening with with 388 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Gene Harlowe? Is she okay? She died at the age 389 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: of twenty six. Dude, it's not necessarily hair related, but 390 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: it couldn't have been good all those fumes and stuff too. 391 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of how he's behavior, even 392 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: at that point is indicative of his precipitous mental decline. 393 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: If you've seen the film, which I only just saw 394 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: it for the first time very recently. Of course it 395 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: was good Scorsese, but it was pretty good. He yeah, 396 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: died alone of his own choice. He was surrounded by whomever, 397 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, would he wanted to have in his company, 398 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: having that level of power, but he excluded himself. 399 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 400 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: And I believe he was like peeing in the jars 401 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: and like wearing tissue. 402 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Boxes for shoes, not trimming his toenails, his fingernails. 403 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. 404 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: Look, all the money in the world doesn't solve every problem. 405 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: In fact, I was very interested in some research from 406 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: a few years ago that says we'd have to adjust 407 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: for inflation, but statistics show us that making your country 408 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: or your community's equivalent of seventy thousand dollars a year. 409 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: Up to that point, money does provide happiness. After that, 410 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: you run the risk of getting into Howard Hughes situation. 411 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: More money, more problems. I think p did he once 412 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: said no, that wasn't him. 413 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: I think he wrote, yes, I had to watch very 414 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 3: good I mean, you know good quote unquote. 415 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: But it's like that guy was apparently just an utter fraud. Yeah. Yeah, 416 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: not not a good neude, not an ideal person nor musician. 417 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Going back to Howard Hughes, we do have a bit 418 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: of a through li like we've been doing for a 419 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: while now, a series of mutual unanimous fascination for us 420 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: inventors who. 421 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 2: Died by their own hands, but not in the way 422 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: you might typically think of that phrase. They didn't unlive 423 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: themselves on purpose? Right, oh great? 424 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: Yes? 425 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Is like what's it called, ben the Ignoble Prize Awards. 426 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: That's right, there's the Ignoble Prize, and the Darwin Awards 427 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: is the one for people that have like The Ignoble 428 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: Prize I think is like the Razzies of of the 429 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: science and innovation, and the Darwin Awards is awarded posthumously 430 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: to people who unlive themselves in bizarre and accidental ways. 431 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: And the Ignoble Awards are a raucous good time. They 432 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: actually this year the Ignoble Awards are mpr aired part 433 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: of the Ignoble Awards, and the people who show up 434 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: are great like these are these are scientists, These are 435 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: actual academics. They love sharing their work. It's in all 436 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: around good time. It's kind of like a nicer version, 437 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: a nicer, more nerdy version of a Friars Club roast. 438 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you who knows how to party? Been scientists? 439 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I can't even You know, back when 440 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: I used to party even, I couldn't hang with mathematicians. 441 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: Those guys are nuts, absolutely nuts, always jotting formulas on 442 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: the back of our cocktail napkins, making you feel dumb. 443 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'd always tried to talk into huffin ether It. 444 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, what century is this? What's on that rag? Delightful? 445 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: So some inventors we wanted to mention we have more 446 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: of this coming up in future iterations of our series. 447 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: Because it's not anarly exhaustible subject. 448 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a well that keeps giving terrible of frightening water. 449 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: But here are a few we didn't get to previously. 450 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: We want to introduce you to a guy named William Bullock. 451 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: He before we beat will Though Noel Max, we got 452 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: to meet a guy named Richard Hoe Hoe. That's right, 453 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: and eighteen thirty two. Printing was revolutionized by mister Hoe 454 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: with an e Hoe who converted the process from one 455 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: that used flat surface as a transferring to paper into 456 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: one that used these cylinders. Think of like a classic 457 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: newspaper printing them tage, you know, rolling across the paper. 458 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: This is apparently a lot more efficient, took up a 459 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: LSS space all of that stuff. Earlier presses could only 460 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: print around four hundred sheets an hour, whereas the cylinder 461 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: press could turn out between one thousand and four thousand 462 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: pages and that same amount of time. 463 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's real. That's eighteen thirty two. Our 464 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: buddy Willie is coming on to stage in eighteen sixty five. 465 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: He has a breakthrough with something he calls the Bullock 466 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: Press in a burst of humility because his last name 467 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: is Bullock. This is a rotary press that gets fed 468 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: by a continuous sheet of paper. Right, so again we're 469 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: thinking back to the newspaper printing press montage scenes. This 470 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: continuous roll of paper like a roll of toilet paper. 471 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: It's stored on one side of the machine and just 472 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: goes through. You can cut it later. This saves so 473 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: much time because also the way l. 474 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: Ron Hubbard wrote his short story, like I believe he 475 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: actually typed onto rolls of paper because they were just 476 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: like throw away. He wrote so many of these schlucky 477 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: sci fi story before he found it a religion. 478 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: There is a true story about one of the Beat 479 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: poets or Beat writers, Jack Kerouac, who took a bunch 480 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: of stimulants, became somehow intoxicated on uppers, and then just 481 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: wrote on a typewriter on a continuous sheet of paper 482 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: and just kept going. 483 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: So we have mister Hoe who invented the cylinder rolling process, 484 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: and then mister Bullock who introduced the continuous roll of 485 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: paper that just doubled up on the efficiency of what 486 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: Hoe had previously done. Yeah. 487 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so the pre Hoe printing press, which is not 488 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: going to sound weird out of context ever, Yeah, Yeah, 489 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: four hundred sheets per hour if it's at its top 490 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: redline speed. The Hoe printing press, because of the cylinder 491 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: we mentioned, could go one thousand to four thousand pages 492 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: in an hour. The Bullock press can go twelve thousand 493 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: sheets per hour. And but wait there's more. It can 494 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: print on both sides and the rolls are like five 495 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: miles long. 496 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: Even today, I'm impressed that a printer can print on 497 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: both sides. Yeah, yeah, wow. The future we're living in 498 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: is wild. 499 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: That sense of anticipation with the page goes out and 500 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: you see the first pasion and it's like not yet, 501 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: not yet, and then it goes back in. 502 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: But then you can imagine that to achieve that level 503 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: of productivity, these roles had to be going that a 504 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: hefty clip, that's the thing. 505 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, so our buddy Willie does not have a 506 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: long time to rest on his laurels. He does successfully 507 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: get this out into the world, and he makes a 508 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: big splash. He makes some headlines on multiple levels. But 509 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: he is at the Philadelphia Public Ledger in eighteen sixty 510 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: seven supervising a bullet press and he tries to kick 511 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: a driving belt onto a pulley. 512 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and very similar to the plot of The Stephen Kings, 513 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: the mangler dude gets me hard on the leg. Yeah, crushed. 514 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't die right then and there, though, as is 515 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: often the case with some of these inventor deaths. It 516 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: gets infected and goes gangrenous, and he eventually does succumb 517 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: to the infection just a couple of days later. The 518 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: Mangler is such a great short story, pretty good. Do 519 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: you remember what led to the Mangler being a ghost 520 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: machine that could they accidentally put like gelatin in it, 521 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: or like a variety of things that got spilled into 522 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: this laundry press were just the right things to curse 523 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: it and have it be sncient demonic entities they accidentally 524 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: summoned to demon right with just a little bit of 525 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: the wrong herbs. Because I believe the gelatin it was 526 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: literally like horse hooves that they used to put in. 527 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: The material that's in horse hooves, I guess was part 528 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: of whatever the spiritual was. But you know, people give 529 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Stephen King a hard time because it's like what if 530 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: I made a spooky newspaper machine. Okay, it's the hell 531 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: of a drug man, that's true. I love that guy. 532 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 2: Oh he's the best, and I'm glad that he got right, 533 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of his struggles with addiction, and 534 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: I think he's you know, continued to do some really 535 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: impressive output over the It's like. 536 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Blood of a virgin bat's blood, horses hoof because there's 537 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: a container of jello. 538 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: That's right or something. Yeah. I don't remember how the 539 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: bat gets in there, but it happens over the span 540 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: of time. But yeah, okay, so our guy. 541 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: Willie Bullock is no more unfortunately. Yeah, and he had also, 542 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: by the way, credit we're due, he had created several 543 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: other pretty impressive mechanical devices, a grain drill away, a 544 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: proto automation for seed planting, a hay press. 545 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: And why don't we end this? What do you guys ever? 546 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Do you guys ever think about riding motorcycles? 547 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: I think about it and then I immediately recoil and 548 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: think that's a terrible idea. It seems fine, but I 549 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: just it's so dangerous. I do like to ride bikes, 550 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: but I'm very cautious. 551 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Good friend of the show, Andrew Howard has a bike. 552 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: It's a moto boy. He's a moto he's a moto man. 553 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: We say, he has a bike. 554 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: You can ride it if you like. It's got a basket, 555 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: pedals and things to make it look good. 556 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd give it to us if he could, but 557 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: somebody borrowed it. 558 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: So really kind of girl that fits into my Yeah. 559 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: So this is the story not of our pal Andrew, 560 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: but of our pal Sylvester H. 561 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: Roper. 562 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: In eighteen ninety six, before the dawn of the modern 563 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: crotch rockets. Our buddy is perfecting his roper steam velocipede. 564 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: I love the word. It's velociped You know what's funny. 565 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: William Bullock, who you're talking about, is the name also 566 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: of the sheriff in the show Deadwood, and there is 567 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: a plot line in that show that involves a velocipede. 568 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: It is what you might call a bone shaker, the 569 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: one with the wheel in front. See like the muscleman 570 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: with the curly must a penny farthing, but this was 571 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: called the character who's a believe runs the tavern, one 572 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: of the taverns, one of the lesser taverns. He brings 573 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: a velocipede and shows it to everybody. So what is 574 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: the twist in this version of the thing. 575 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is basically a primitive or proto version of 576 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: the modern motorcycle. Story goes that one day Sly is 577 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: out or still I like Sly. Yeah, all right, So 578 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: buddy Sylvester is working on the roper steam powered velocipede. 579 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: He goes out, I don't right. 580 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: He goes to drive this thing, and he wants to 581 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: prove to the population, prove to the public in the 582 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: world at large, that his invention is a good idea. Basically, 583 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: look how fast it goes. Steam is the future. Yeah, 584 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: we can go long distances. Yeah, we can go on 585 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: public roads. 586 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: Off road even Wow, I don't know about that. But 587 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't like you know, of course, maybe you're picturing 588 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: some sort of horrific Hindenburg explosion, you know, but that's 589 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: not what happened at all. It was just it was 590 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: the guy's time, and it happens to be the time 591 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: that he was demonstrating the velocipied. His heart went too quickly. 592 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah he's too stoked. 593 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got so excited, he got overrevved, He suffered 594 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: a heart attack, He was incapacitated while on the vehicle, 595 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: and he lost control of the velociped He crashed and died. 596 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: At least he died doing what he loved. 597 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: Yes, at least, yes, that is true. Man, I was 598 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: going to make a joke, but you're absolutely right. It 599 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: also makes us wonder about the way's history could have gone. 600 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: You know if this guy popularized this steam velociped we 601 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: have steam powered motorbikes today. 602 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I would say probably not the steam. 603 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: There was steam powered lots of stuff, and then eventually 604 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: it just you know, gas power just was like, yeah, 605 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: we can do better, right. 606 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: And we are powered by neither gas nor steam. We 607 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: are powered by a fascination of all things ridiculous. Raffeine 608 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Hey caffe Oh yes, and shout out to no offense Max, 609 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Big thank you to our other super producer all of 610 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: the caffe. 611 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh we're sus. 612 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: What power is your it's what steam power is you're 613 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 4: super producer. 614 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah we uh we. 615 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: By the way, folks were an audio podcast at present. 616 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: We all three organically like good improv. 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