1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of dope people sitting at home. You know, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: you can be the greatest DJ in the world, but 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: if you don't know how to communicate with venues, you 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know how to write emails, you know, just simple 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: things like that, to network with other creatives, to network 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: with other corporate entities, or just be in the same 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: room as people, to meet these people who can provide 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: these kinds of opportunities. You know, we would just be 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: dope at home. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: Than Hey, everybody, welcome to an episode of Butter Now. 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: It's I'm the host, Brandon Butler found the CEO of 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Butter at LL and today got somebody special in the building, 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: the one, the only, mister Jeremy Avalon. Jeremy, How you doing, bro? 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm great? How you doing? 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: Man? That was any better after you? Brother? 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: What do they say if I had your heart your hands, 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: I cut my one off. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Or something like that. Look, man, it's all good man, 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for pulling up all us. 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you man. This is fun. 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: So, you know, for a lot of folks, man, you 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: know a lot of podcasts, a lot of folk you know, 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: you like to do the whole Tell me about yourself 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. We do a little 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: bit different here on Buttonmics. You know what I'm saying, 26 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Business of Culture podcast. One thing we always do is 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: we always ask chat cheapyt to write a short bio 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: about our guest. So I'm gonna read what GBT says 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: about you, and I want you to tell me, is 30 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: it is it on? Does it all? You gotta We 31 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: gotta make a couple of phone calls, got some emails 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: to type this thing up. Okay, let me know, Let's 33 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: do it all right, all right. Jeremy Avalon is an 34 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: Atlanta based artist who wears several hats, DJ, producer, and guitarists. 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: He's a member of the work Crew collective and plays 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: guitar for Heavy Mojo, a local stable in Atlanta. His 37 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: musical roots traced back to a massive vinyl collection from 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: his dad, which inspired him early on. He's known for 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: blending global sounds from Afro Latino, Caribbean hip hop, funk, 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: indie dance, and deep house into his sets. He shares 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: stages with a range of artists like Fishbone, Cowboy Mouth 42 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: and DJs and hip hop figures like Jazzy, jeff Ty, 43 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Lib Kwali, Pete Rock, Brian Michael Cox, and many others. Locally, 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: he's a fixture at Major vic in Atlanta. You may 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: have seen him on the stage DJ one Music Fest, 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: a three c afro punker, at clubs like MJQ, hosting 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: this high key disco party. He's taking his knowledge to 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: academic spaces, teaching panel discussions at Emory University. The one 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: the only mister Jeremy Avalon So was that accurate? Was 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: it awful? Was a missing name? Man? 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: The robots are kind of on. Man. 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I gotta say tell you, man, look, I don't know 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: what you're putting into this thing. This was putting back 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: out Yo. 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah, pretty much, Yeah, pretty much that on. 56 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Dope, man, Dope. Well, I mean it's talk about all 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: this stuff. Man. One of the things you're probably most 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: known for out here is the groove, right, and I 59 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: got a big anniversary coming up. 60 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Well we just had a big anniversary. We had nine years. 61 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 62 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: We started back in twenty fifteen at the Basement, okay 63 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: in the East Atlanta village and well actually before that 64 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: at the at the the a loft hotel in the Lobby. 65 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Went from there to the Basement of East Atlanta, village 66 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: and it just grew and then we started doing the 67 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Masquerade and other bigger venues. 68 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I remember what what brought that on. 69 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, for one back nine ten years ago, there wasn't 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: really a party dedicated to strictly R and B. But 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: like strictly strictly R and B, like no rap segments 72 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: to appease people, know, like hardcore R and B, deep cuts, 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, familiars, you know, the old basement, you know, 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: get down, you know kind of feeling. We didn't have 75 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: that in the city at the time, so we just 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: saw a need. We feel the need that was that 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: was missing, and we're all really passionate about R and B. 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: My first concert was new addition the Heartbreak Tour. I'm 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: aging myself a bit, but you know, the first person 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I saw in life on stage was I'll be sure. 81 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I've been going to R 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: and B shows my whole life. I saw seeing Janet 83 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Rhythm Nation tour as a kid. Yeah, yeah, that was 84 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: one of the first shows I went to when I 85 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta as a young as a young guy, 86 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, man, just going to show my parents have 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: cool parents. Thankfully they drug us to Luther and Anita 88 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: and all kinds of shows. So that sparked my my 89 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: R and B interests, you know, as a child, and hey, man, 90 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I just want to represent that in a public space now. 91 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: And it's just something that was missing and we wanted 92 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: to bring that to the forefront. 93 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean you kind of mentioned I mean, 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: you're not originally from Atlanta, you got New York roots, 95 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: but you know you represent Atlanta hard, Like what is that? 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: What does that influence mean on your music and just 97 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: all the stuff you've been building. 98 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: Well, I have a unique situation, like a lot of people, 99 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of from the early nineties, having family in two 100 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: cities and frequently frequenting both of them. My father, even 101 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: though he grew up in Brooklyn, was born at Grady, 102 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, randomly, Like my dad was probably the last 103 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: of his siblings born and born down south before the 104 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: migration up to New York. So I'm heavily influenced by 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: a lot out of the southern soul from Otis Redding, 106 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: James Brown, you know that kind of that's big in 107 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: my my musical vocabulary and history as well as you know, 108 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: New York City and the funk and disco and the 109 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: boogie from New York City like Kashif and you know, 110 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: all these all these artists that kind of were the 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: soundtrack to my early years. 112 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: No, man, So you know, I love and that's one 113 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: thing I've always loved. Me And I've been to the 114 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: Groove many times, and I think again, like it's easy 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: to kind of fall in too, just like the straight 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: up hip hop, the party stuff, right, but it takes 117 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: something special to kind of put together a whole event 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: around just R and B and kind of creating a 119 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: whole different vibe. And that's needed Atlanta. Like what kind 120 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: of people typically come out and enjoy that experience. 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: Well, fortunately, a lot of ladies. 122 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know, and we. 123 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: We love we love our audience. So yeah, a lot 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: of ladies come through. It's a great safe space. You know. 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: It's not a lot of weirdos, you know, it's you know, 126 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot of well mannered people who really like music. 127 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: And so that's that's what we love about the Groove. Man, 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: It's people that come to enjoy the music. They that 129 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: aren't just surface level you know, I want to hear 130 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna well, I'm not gonna give An examples, 131 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: but you know, just do want to hear basic R 132 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and B. You know, people that like deep cuts in 133 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: real music. 134 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, man for sure. Man, again, you've seen Atlanta 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: like evolve both culturally and musically, Like what do you 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: remember about those early days, like you know, the Face 137 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: Records in that kind of time period in Atlanta to 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: what it is now? 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Man, I just remember going to record stores in Atlanta 140 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: growing up. Some of my favorite artists like that were 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: on the Face, like Damien Dame, reci peace to both 142 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: of them. That's really Atlanta to me. Like when I 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: think of moving to Atlanta, I think of Babyface Tender 144 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: Lover album and Damien Dame early TLC. That's the Atlanta 145 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: that I was, you know, came up in. So that's 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta in a nutshell for me. 147 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: And is that kind of like that kind of continues 148 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: to influence all the stuff you do, because a lot 149 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: of stuff kind of has that same vibe to it. 150 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, absolutely a big New Jack swing nerd. Yeah, 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, so I like all the music from that era, 152 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, So the Face Records was a huge impact 153 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: on me just musically and just like you know, for 154 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta, too. I mean, we Atlanta was 155 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: like a baby New York in a lot of ways 156 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: that every artist passed through here, you know, growing up, 157 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: So it was kind of it was it was very 158 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: interesting to have that dynamic of both cities kind of 159 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: coexisting with each other. There wasn't this whole North South 160 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: divide that people perpetuate. It was kind of like, you know, 161 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: everybody was kind of exchanging ideas and influencing each other musically. 162 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you think it's important that, 163 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, people really recognize Atlanta's kind of like deep 164 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: roots in music and history and like who were some 165 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: of the folks come to mind? Because a lot of times, yeah, 166 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: like you know, people think about Atlanta from a music standpoint, 167 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: but they kind of instantly kind of go to the 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: rap and hip hop stuff and they're like, oh, yeah, 169 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: La Face was doing all this thing. It's like, yeah, 170 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: all kind of stuff has happened. But we talked about 171 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: the SOS band and all these other groups, like, you know, 172 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: why is it important to remember kind of that deep 173 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: history and who those some of those folks you think 174 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: are kind of the architects to kind of help even 175 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: open the doors up for the faces to the social 176 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: depths to kind of where we are now. 177 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Well, I had to give props to my mother and 178 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: her side family. My mom is from making Georgia, Okay, 179 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: so I have that half of half that Georgia and 180 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: me and Gladys Knight and the Pips. Yeah, that's that's 181 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: the genesis for me of music from Atlanta to me, 182 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: So Gladys Knight and the Pips, the SOS band that 183 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Jam and Lewis Influent influence sound, that's the Atlanta kind 184 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: of funk sound to me, you know, So that is 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: what I think of first when I think of Atlanta 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: and music, and of course you know all the hip 187 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: hop that came, but even the pre outcast hip hop, 188 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, like Kilo Ali's and Shout Out the Mojo 189 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and like some of these early hip hop influencers. You know, 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that kind of shaped the whole Atlanta kind of sound 191 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: for me in my head. 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a lot more, you know, soulf. 193 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna be one of my old guys. 194 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it was better than I think 195 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: every I think, every decade, in every every moment you know, 196 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: it has. It has reasons why it's like, you know, 197 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: popular and has things. I mean again, I have a 198 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: young daughter, you know what I'm saying, and like I 199 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: wanted to let me listen to stuff all the time. 200 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: I want to hear what's hot in these streets. So 201 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to be an old head be like 202 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, I'm hating on whatever kind of came before, right, 203 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: But to your point, like there's a lot of stuff 204 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, built the foundation. Now. You 205 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 2: also an event called high Key Disco. Tell me about that. 206 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: So hig Key Disco is kind of a tribute to 207 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: that specifically. So I was born in nineteen eighty two, 208 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: so I think that that is like the funkiest year 209 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: of all times. So there's a really funky time period 210 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: of music post Disco, before New Jacks Wing. You got 211 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: everyone from the Sos band to Kashif like I said earlier, 212 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to the Whispers, and you know this whole kind of 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: early eighties boogie funk that was faster than the R 214 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: and B at the time, but slower than the disco. 215 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good pocket in between. You know, 216 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: think of like Michael Jackson rock with you kind of 217 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: tempo vibe you know that is the kind of essence 218 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: of high key disco to me, because it's high key disco. Yeah, 219 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: but you know it's really funky too, you know what I'm. 220 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: Saying, No, I feel you man. Like one of the 221 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: things you talk about too sometimes is like activism you 222 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: know through music, Like what exactly do you mean by that? 223 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, I like to play music that doesn't like I'm 224 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: losing the word here. 225 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: People people don't get shot. 226 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well people don't get shot. Like I like 227 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: to play music that you know, that is uplifting and 228 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: it's not talking about you know, negative things about us 229 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: as people. You know, I want to I want to 230 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: hear our music and our art forms elevated, you know. 231 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's what that's what my activism is as 232 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: far as the R and B thing goes. I want 233 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: it to be on the same level as a classical 234 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: music or or any kind of music that we think 235 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: but that we deem as high art or whatever. Like 236 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: we make high art to do, you know, it's just 237 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: we you know, we have to have we have to 238 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, push our art and spaces too. 239 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: What do you think is the secret to kind of 240 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: building an event that lasts that long, because there's not 241 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: a lot of events, especially in Atlanta just in general 242 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: that go on for that long and still kind of 243 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: find ways to stay fresh. I mean, they're not making 244 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: any new old school music, you know what I'm saying, 245 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: But y'all find new ways to put together and new 246 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, venues to do it. But like, what do 247 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 2: you think kind of helps drive the stay in power 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: for that event? 249 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think to just the love for the music 250 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: first of all, is the is the drive for the 251 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: for our event. And then you know, also with R 252 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: and B in particular, like you said, you know, there 253 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: isn't any newer old school music, but as we age, 254 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: there are things that you know, become classic. You know, 255 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: so things from the early two thousands when we were 256 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: in college. You know that that's music that people grew 257 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: up on. Now, so sometimes we have to remember this 258 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Ashanti record is old school to them. But then that's 259 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: this whole generation of people that that that a Shaunte 260 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: record would be the equivalent of a Bobby Brown record toss, 261 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just the way 262 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: music keeps on evolving. We still will will always have 263 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: classics of some sort. So that's what I love about, 264 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, doing the R and B thing. 265 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: No, that's a good point, man. You know I always 266 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: always trip and listen to some of the you know, 267 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: the old school stations now, and like some of my 268 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: songs are coming on. I'm like, wait a minute minute, 269 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: am I to hold it? Am I the old head? 270 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: And that hold up? You know? Yeah, yeah, but that's 271 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: a good point though, man. You're right, like even though 272 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: they're not making any like new old old school, like 273 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: you know, my mom used to listen to growing up, 274 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: and you know, I have to clean the house up 275 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: on Saturdays, right, A lot of those things that you know, 276 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: we grew up on in kind of our you know, 277 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: teenage years and early twenty years Like I mean, yeah, 278 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: stuff was twenty years ago, years ago, and so the 279 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: ability to kind of mix that in and kind of 280 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: have that I think that's interesting too. Like I always 281 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: talk about kind of like juxtaposition absolutely, and so I 282 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: always think about, you know, like what's your I'm always like, 283 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: what's the process, Like when you even make these sets, 284 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: like how to explain to me like you know, okay, 285 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: the groove is coming up or events coming up up? 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Like how do you even start to sit down and 287 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: figure out all right, like I'm gonna do this set, 288 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: this is the vibe I want to do. I'm gonna 289 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: conect these different albums. Like, what's kind of your process 290 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: for even putting that together? 291 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think for me, there's usually a song or 292 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: two that I want to get to mm hm and 293 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: that you know, either as a personal deep cut of 294 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: mind or something that I just haven't played in a 295 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: long time that I just want to put out there, 296 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: you know. So that's part of it. But my strategy 297 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: is really I like to take the year away from 298 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: things because there's a lot of agism and year discrimination, 299 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: I guess, especially in Black music. You know, we kind 300 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: of have a tendency to say, oh, well, you know, 301 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: this person's old or this person's whatever. But I like 302 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: to take the year out of music because there's not 303 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: really a difference, in a large difference in like the 304 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: music we grew up in and like Katrinata or like 305 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: somebody like that. You know, it's it's really a tempo thing. 306 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: So as long as music is in similar keys and 307 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: similar tempos, you can dance to it. You can play 308 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: jo Toasy and Brent Fires and XYZ person all at 309 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the same time, because it's really it's really the same music. 310 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: You think about classical music, right, Yeah, something could have 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: been five hundred years old or something could have been 312 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: made yesterday, but it's both classical music. You don't know 313 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: the difference of when it came out, you know. So 314 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I would like R and B to be more like 315 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: that in a way, you know, like that we could 316 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: play everything from multiple eras and everybody's just with it. 317 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Okay. So that's how you kind of start, you say, 318 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: you know what, like I'm gonna do this set. I 319 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: have a couple of different songs I want to make 320 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: sure that I get to, Yeah, but I'm going to 321 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: kind of based on those, I'm going to kind of 322 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: almost like build around and build up to that and 323 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: train and that's how you kind of approach it. 324 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then a lot of it is just freestyle. Yeah, 325 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Like I like, like I said, I'll plan like maybe 326 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: two or three songs that I'm like, Okay, I want 327 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: to get to these at this type of tempo. But 328 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: then everything else, I'm just feeding off the audience, you know, 329 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and seeing you know, if I see a certain person 330 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: come in that I did, I know a song that 331 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: they like just in the back of my head, I'm like, yeah, 332 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them. So you know, it's just kind 333 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: of like that, that's what I would do it. 334 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, look, I was a DJ for a hot minute, man, 335 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: a hot minute, you know what I'm saying. So I 336 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: got to ask you, you a vinyl guy, you a 337 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: serato guy, like, how do you feel about the whole 338 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: digital element? Because again, I know some people, you know, 339 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: they're very they're very sensitive about this stuff, But how 340 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: do you feel about the whole like vinyl versus digital 341 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: element when it comes to just DJ and events and 342 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: all this. 343 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Right, So I definitely started in the vinyl era. You know, 344 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big If you follow me on any social media, 345 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm vinyling people to death. 346 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: You know. 347 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I love vinyl. I love the touching the records and 348 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: manipulating and all that. But also I do embrace technology. 349 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Even if you look at a turntable, it's not meant 350 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: to use it's not meant to be used that way. Yeah, 351 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's meant to be played at his normal 352 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: pitch and normal tempo. But you know it had these 353 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: have a pitch control and we're manipulating. That's technology advanced, man. 354 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: You know. Then I remember when CD tds came out 355 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: and me and my friends we were like, man, that's 356 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: so whack man, you DJing with CD? That's so corny, right, 357 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: But then it's like, Okay, now I'm able to have 358 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: multiple genres of music on one disc or multiple music 359 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: on several discs and not have to bring a whole 360 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: bunch of records with me. So my back is definitely grateful, 361 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? From that, And then I 362 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: embrace the technology. Man. Hey, it's here to it's here 363 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: to use, you know, so as long as you just 364 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: stay true to it. I think my biggest advice to 365 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: DJs really is just like, learn how to do everything. 366 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Some people get offended by that, though, can you tell them, 367 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if they Okay, if you know 368 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: how to DJ on the controller, that's great. Now what 369 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: if you're in a situation where they have c DJs 370 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: or you're gonna just be like, well, I can't do 371 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: it now. What if there's a turntables there? Oh, I 372 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: can't do it? Now? I say, learn everything, educate yourself, educate. 373 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: There is a famous DJ rec inpece to one of 374 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the greatest disco DJ's Larry Levan. He said that people 375 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: don't understand how the music gets from the vinyl to 376 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: the speaker, so how they're going to understand how to 377 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: play it, you know what I mean. So, like I 378 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: always say, some people don't know an RCA from a 379 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: hole in their head sometimes, you know, So educate yourself 380 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: on equipment, on music, how how the music even gets 381 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: out of the speaker, you know. So that's that's my 382 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: biggest advice. Learn everything you can. 383 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: Sure for sure. Now, when did you start seeing the 384 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of start building a business around this? 385 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: You know, you have a pastor of music, you're doing DJ, 386 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: doing events. When did you say, like, you know what 387 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: this could be like a real sustainable thing. 388 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, honestly it was forced upon me, that makes sense. 389 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: So I've been DJing since I was probably fifteen years old, right, 390 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: so this is the mid nineties, been collecting records since then. 391 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: That's you know, I'm kind of like the youngest. I 392 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: was always like the youngest person in the room, you know, 393 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: with all this DJ stuff. So you know, I did 394 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: what everybody's parents wanted them to do, you know, you know, 395 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: get decent grades in high school, go to college, get 396 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: get your degree. I got my degree in digital media, 397 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: So I have a television background, and I was always 398 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: DJing on the side, and I was always playing music 399 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: on the side. I've been playing guitar ears even before 400 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: I've been DJing, so I always had that passion to 401 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: do that. But you know, I wanted to do the 402 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: straight and narrow corporate America thing, and it was a 403 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: hard balance, you know. I would I would work all day. 404 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: I would gig at nights. Sometimes when I was with 405 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Heavy Mojo. Sometimes I would take my Pto PTO to 406 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: go on tour, you know, just stuff like that. But 407 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: I had that foundation of an education and another adjacent 408 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: like field similar, you know. So you know I got 409 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: that you know, that job that you're supposed to get 410 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: after college, you know that you work hard for. I've 411 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: worked for Turner Broadcasting Cartoon Network for many years and then, 412 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: as you know, Turner massive layoffs, you know. So I 413 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: was kind of thrust into it because it was like, Okay, 414 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: my DJ's thing is starting to take off a little bit. 415 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: But you know, but I'm glad I still got this 416 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: corporate thing. But when that corporate thing didn't have me anymore. 417 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: It was kind of like, Okay, now I could either 418 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: look for you know, I could either keep this charade 419 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: of trying to do both right or put my put 420 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: my efforts into this into actually you know, doing this 421 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: DJ thing. And that's how that's how it kind of 422 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: happened for me. Like it wasn't a choice. It was 423 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: just kind of like, hey, pushed off the deep end, 424 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: go swim you know. 425 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: No, no, got to jump out there, and you have 426 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: to respond to it. Now when it comes to you know, DJ, 427 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: and this is a business, these vents or business and 428 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: a lot of folks that the creatives kind of sometimes 429 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: struggle to monetize, you know, their work. How did you 430 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: start to really kind of bring in that element to 431 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: make sure you weren't just known as like, you know, 432 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: a dope DJ, but like dope DJ need to get 433 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: it paid too. 434 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, you know there's a lot of dope people 435 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: sitting at home. You know, there's somebody better than Michael Jordan, 436 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: who you know was just dope at the playground but 437 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: never you know, never took off. But I say, you know, 438 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: it's really educating yourself about the business of eventvs. You know, 439 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: because events are a business. You can be the greatest 440 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: DJ in the world. But if you don't know how 441 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: to communicate with venues, you don't know how to you know, 442 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: even write emails, you know, just simple things like that, 443 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: to to network with other creatives, to network with other uh, 444 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, entities, you know, corporate entities. You know, we've 445 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: we've we've been blessed to have a couple of good 446 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: sponsorships along the way. But if we didn't like research 447 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: how to go about those or or just be in 448 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the same room as people to meet these people who 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: can provide these kinds of opportunities, you know, we would 450 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: just be dope at home. 451 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, how do you what advice would 452 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 2: you give to like, you know, somebody wants to get 453 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: in the space because I think again, a lot of 454 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: times when you do service based stuff and creative work, 455 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: there's even a struggle to kind of figure out, like 456 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: where's my value in the market, and like what's the 457 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: right number of my asking for too much and not enough? 458 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: Like how'd you kind of figure out, you know, what 459 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: they actually charge for your services and what value to 460 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: put on top of them. 461 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Well, it's research, you know, you I always say to people, 462 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: especially like, for example, if you're a musician artist, if 463 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: if I was buying buying Brandon's album in the record store, 464 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: like what other artists story around would be? What section 465 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: would you be in? And who are the other artists 466 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: that I had to thumb through to get to you? 467 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, same thing with yourself as a DJ, and 468 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: as as as event products. Excuse me as an event producer. 469 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: You know there there's there's you in every city, you know, 470 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: so you have to research. You have to relentlessly research, 471 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: see what works for other people, but don't copy. Use 472 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: it as inspiration to do what you know, to to 473 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: do what you want to do, you know. So I 474 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: would say definitely research, research, research, we I mean the 475 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: whole We have plenty of tools to research. Go outside, 476 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: you know. That's another thing. A lot of us artists 477 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: are very introverted. I know I am, you know, but 478 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: you have to talk to people, you know, and closed 479 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: mouth don't get fed, you know. So that's that that's 480 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: the main thing, you know, being able to not only 481 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: be good, be a good artist, but to be able 482 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: to actually function in those spaces and talk to people, 483 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: and you know, those opportunities come when you just sometimes 484 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: just be in somewhere, opportunities come. But if you're not there, Yeah, 485 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: you got to be in the room, man. You gotta 486 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: be like they say in the Hamilton, you got to 487 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: be in the room man. Now, you know, another one 488 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: of the things you were focusing on, we were kind of 489 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: talking those around. 490 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: The idea of like productivity for creatives. You talking about 491 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: you have like a lot of different kind of practices 492 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 2: and systems and tools you used, and one of them 493 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: you mentioned was called morning pages, right, Like, tell me 494 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: about that. 495 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: So it's just a it's a thing where you just 496 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: your first thing in the morning, right. I use one 497 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: of those old composition notebooks, right, And it's just like 498 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: an ex hel you know, you write whatever comes to mind, 499 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: just a page of that, you know, and it's just 500 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: kind of a stream of consciousness kind of thing. It 501 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: could just be like I ete tacos, I ate tacos, 502 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It could be anything, you know, 503 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: But that's just a strategy that I use just to 504 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: get my creative kind of flow going, you know, and 505 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: any kind of other things that are on my mind 506 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: that might be stressing me or whatever. At least I 507 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: see them on a piece of paper, and I'm like, ah, okay, 508 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: at least it's out of me and on this paper, 509 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: you know. So that's just a like kind of a 510 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: mental tool that I kind of use, you know, every 511 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: day to kind of just help help myself creatively. 512 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: It kind of just helps you kind of like kickstart, 513 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: just get start things going. Have you kind of seen 514 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: the improvements as you start doing that? 515 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely, you know, because they're you know, you wake 516 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: up sometimes you have a lot on your mind and 517 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: just to write it all out sometimes it's just a 518 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: relief in itself. 519 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. What are some of the other things you 520 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: use to kind of keep yourself organized and productive? 521 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: Well, usually outside of just the morning pages thing I 522 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: do recent you know, I do research on similar artists 523 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: to myself, on similar events to myself. I take notes. 524 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: I see there's value in almost everything. You know. It's 525 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: everything is food, I say, you know, you just you 526 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: have like I said, every everything is food. You eat 527 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: the nutrients and you get rid of the rest, you 528 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I do a lot 529 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: of research daily, you know, on on events, on music, 530 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: on just you know, what's working for other people, what's 531 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: working internationally, not just in the city of Atlanta or 532 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: what you know, on the East coast or whatever. 533 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about so for people that might be having 534 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, challenges with just you know, being productive or 535 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: kind of staying on track, like what's like some of 536 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: your best tactical advice or just you know habits, you 537 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: would kind of tell them to start adopting to kind 538 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: of you know, get kickstarted, kind of like you do 539 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: with the Morning Pages. 540 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well outside of the outside of the the Morning Pages, 541 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: you have to I would say being being healthy too, 542 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, just right and you know, just making because 543 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: in this in this uh, in this arena right in 544 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: the nightlighte for arena or whatever we're in. You know, 545 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's stressed. It's hard on your body, 546 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's a lot of stress. 547 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, So having having stress coping mechanisms, exercise, water, meditation, 548 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, all these type of things are helpful as 549 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: well as, like I said, doing research daily, you know, 550 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: comparing notes with others, you know, talking to fellow creatives. 551 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: You know. 552 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: The daily basis making making a point to meet up 553 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: with people and talk sometimes just to have meetings just 554 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: to have coffee. Hey, this is why I'm coming up. 555 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: What are some suggestions, what have what's helped you in 556 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the past, you know, and that's helped me a lot, 557 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: just talking to friends for sure. 558 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think a lot of people realize just 559 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, because they they only consume events, they don't 560 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: necessarily produce events and do stuff. And then yeah, you're 561 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: throwing the night life element, you're throwing you know again, 562 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: it's late, you're getting there, you're getting home late. Like, 563 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: just you got to take carry yourself in. Mental health 564 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: is probably a big part of that process too, right. 565 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it's the biggest, the biggest part of 566 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: it for sure. 567 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: What kind of stuff do you do to kind of 568 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: help make sure again that you're staying balanced and know 569 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: you talked about like working out, but again like like 570 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: what are some of the things you're doing, especially again 571 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: as a creative in your nighttime and night life you know, 572 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: I know we had a lot of people that we've 573 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: lost over the years and different things, like what are 574 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: some of the things you're doing to kind of leaning 575 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: on that side. 576 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I'm an avid you know, workout person. 577 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm a kamba gym rat you know, which only really 578 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: happened in the last couple of years. You know, because 579 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: of that fact, there's been a lot of people not 580 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: only in slightly older than me and my age group, 581 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: but people younger than me who have who have had 582 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: problems with all kinds of things and have passed unfortunately. 583 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: You know. 584 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: So it's just like it was just kind of shocked. 585 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: It was a shock to my system. Like, yo, you 586 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: need to get on them. You know, this could be 587 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: you if you were to go down either one of 588 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: these paths. You know, so stay on top of it, 589 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, eat right, drink your water, you know, call 590 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: your mom. 591 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: Right, got to got to you know, No, man, look 592 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: what are some of the other things you do as 593 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: far as like, you know, just stay in balanced. Especially 594 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: with the audience coming in. I'm sure you probably get 595 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: all kinds of people in perspectives, people coming up from 596 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: requests of songs, just you know, weird people around the 597 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: booth and everything, Like how do you kind of manage 598 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: and kind of build a good relationship while also staying professional. 599 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I think for like the groove, for example, 600 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: people kind of know what time it is, you know, 601 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: and then then they're there for what we do, you 602 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean when I do high key disco. 603 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's new people who maybe are new to Atlanta 604 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: or you know, not used to what we do. What 605 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: I do there m j Q for example, there's a 606 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: sign above my head that says another question right. And 607 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: sometimes people don't you know, can't read you know what 608 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you got to remind them of you 609 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: know what you know, they're they're reading lessons from elementary school. 610 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no requests, you're working, hanging out. 611 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, hanging out. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the thing. 612 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: But people are generally respectful. 613 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: You know. 614 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, you have to kind of be a 615 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: little moressertive and you know, but people are generally generally respectful, 616 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: you know. 617 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: To you that's cool. That's cool. As you kind of 618 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: look back, are there any kind of like key moments 619 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: or just like pivotal book experiences and kind of shape 620 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: how you just approach you know, the business side of 621 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: what you do and even the art side as well. 622 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I've had I've had a lot of cool opportunities. 623 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: I have a shout out to my cousin Scales from 624 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Nappy Roots he's he's been like a good source of 625 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: like kind of just navigating the industry, you know, locally 626 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: and just being on the road, you know. So I've 627 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to travel with them and see a 628 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: lot of see a lot of places and just DJing 629 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: for different crowds of people that I would you know, 630 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: never run into normally, you know what I mean. So 631 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: that's been that's been like super super helpful for me, 632 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: just navigating especially in this city. 633 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: You know, what's what's one thing after everything you've built within, 634 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: What's one thing you wish you kind of would have 635 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: known sooner. 636 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: Mm hm that the event production is not for the 637 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: fan of art, you know what I mean. I've been 638 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: I've been also privileged to work with art beats and 639 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: lyrics for the past ten years. Shout out to Jabbari 640 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: and Doug Union, the whole team over there, and yeah, 641 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: that that's really helped me get into different markets that 642 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I would never get into normally. You know, I've never 643 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: been I would have no other reason to go to 644 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, you know, but we've except for that tour 645 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: and now, like I've been able to network with people 646 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: in every all these cities you know that are similar 647 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: to me and similar to us, and just keeping that, 648 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: keeping that going. I was able to you know when 649 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I when we were in New York, I was able 650 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: to build a good relationship with Serado. You know that 651 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: I can just go in and and you know, talk 652 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: about equipment. They can put me onto new technologies. Just 653 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: I would also say, like, you know, there are there 654 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: are companies that that like Serato. You know, I'm a DJ, 655 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: so y'all use Serato, you know, so build a relationship 656 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: with these products that you're using, you know, whatever the 657 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: feel is you're you know, if you're a graphic designer, 658 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe try to meet somebody at Adobe or 659 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: something like that. You know, build those relationships too with 660 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: the corporate entities you know, of what you do in 661 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: the art world, because you know they can really help you, 662 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, either it's just hire you for something, sign 663 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: a check, or just you know, help you with equipment 664 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: or advice or whatever like So I would definitely, like say, 665 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: find the professional organizations around what you do, and you know, 666 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: definitely build relationships with them as you know, as soon 667 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: as possible. 668 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, relationships are one of the most 669 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: important things. I had a friend of mine tell me 670 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: a long time ago, and it sank in a little 671 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: bit later. He was like, Yeah, you just can't do 672 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: anything without people, right, you know. And so at the 673 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: end of the day, man, relationships what kind of brings 674 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 2: everybody around and get and open up new doors for 675 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: you and I value and I'm sure you meet all 676 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: kinds of people in all the different events you're doing. 677 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: Man. 678 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: So again, like leveraging those things helps goes a long way. 679 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: This is dope, man. Look before we get out of here, man, 680 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Like what's coming up next? Like, what are you excited about? 681 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, we do have another season of our Beasts and 682 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Lyrics coming up, and I'm excited about that. Have High 683 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Ki Disco coming up and on August twenty ninth, that 684 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: album Allow. So yeah, I'm just looking forward to traveling 685 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: and taking it to other cities, looking at taking it 686 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: to Tampa, potentially to New York and you know, just 687 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: a couple of other cities around the country. Like that's 688 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: that's really what I want to do. I want to 689 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: play that funk all over the world, you know what 690 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, that's what I wanted to do. I 691 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: kind of after the pandemic. You know, I was just 692 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, I don't want to like 693 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: have to know what the new little Whoever song is, 694 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If I can just be 695 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: king of the old people, let me be king of 696 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: the old people, you know, and really lock in, you know. 697 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: So I've been blessed to kind of find that niche 698 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: and you know, it's something that I excel at. So 699 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm being able to, you know, to really 700 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: put that part of my talent out there and show, hey, 701 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: this is what I can do, you. 702 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: Know, absolutely absolutely. Man, Look, this has been a dope conversation. 703 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: Before we get out of here. How can somebody get 704 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: in contact with you? How can they support you? Like 705 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: give them all the things? 706 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: All right? Cool? So you can check me out on 707 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Instagram and I have all the socials at Jeremy Avalon. 708 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: My website is Jeremyavalon dot com work crew. You can 709 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: check us out on Instagram and all the socials there. 710 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: I am on let's see SoundCloud. You can check my 711 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: mixes band camp. I have original music. I have several 712 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: projects coming out on band camp soon, so check for those. 713 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: It's at Jeremy Avalon and yeah, I just did a 714 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Cadilect Chronicles episode which is really dope. You know, Shout 715 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: out to Brian and that's really if you want to 716 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: know what I do watch that, you know saying is 717 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: that that's the music I love, and that's what That's 718 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: what Ikeydisco is. 719 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: Sure man, Man, congratulations on everything. Congratulations for you and 720 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: the whole work crew on nine years of the groove 721 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: and all the other stuff. 722 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Shout out our Glass, Josh Jay and Xavier Black and 723 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the whole team. 724 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: The whole team. Man. With that said, out y'all, that's 725 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: the pod. Peace. 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