Speaker 1: Look Out's only films to be buried with. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to films to be buried with. My name is
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, a director,
Speaker 1: a hit man, and I love films. As fran Lieberwitz
Speaker 1: once said, You're only as good as your last haircut,
Speaker 1: or the last time you turned your phone off in
Speaker 1: the cinema at the beginning of the film and didn't
Speaker 1: even reach for it once like an absent minded gunslinger.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Or just get rid of your phones.
Speaker 1: You're in the cinema. That's why you came to the cinema.
Speaker 1: Just give yourself to the film. Every week I invite
Speaker 1: a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then
Speaker 1: I get them to discuss their life through the films
Speaker 1: that meant that most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins,
Speaker 1: Amber Ruffin, Mark Frost, and even Sumles. But this week
Speaker 1: it is the brilliant actor, producer and all round superstar,
Speaker 1: legend and hero. It's Joshua Jackson. The final seven dates
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Speaker 1: over at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein. Joshua Jackson. Wow,
Speaker 1: Joshua Jackson. Can you imagine he was on the show.
Speaker 1: He's a hero, He's a legend. You know him as
Speaker 1: Pacey from Dawson's Creek. You know from Fringe, you know
Speaker 1: him from The Affair, you know him from Dr def
Speaker 1: He has a new show called Dr Odyssey that you've
Speaker 1: got to watch. He is everybody's favorite guy. I was
Speaker 1: so excited to record this with him. We never met before,
Speaker 1: and genuinely, this is one of my all time favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: I really really think you're gonna love it. He's such
Speaker 1: a wonderful man. So that is it for now. I
Speaker 1: very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I am joined today by an actor, a legend,
Speaker 1: a Dawson's creaker and affairer, a dr deatha, a fatal attractioner.
Speaker 1: He's a fringer, he's a fringe magnet. He's a hero.
Speaker 1: He's a legend. He is also and I hate to
Speaker 1: tell you the truth, but I'll say it, the number
Speaker 1: one guest I have had on this show that every
Speaker 1: single woman I have mentioned this too has gone, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's the hottest guy in the whole world,
Speaker 1: number one by far. He's here. If you're on the
Speaker 1: patreot you can even see his lovely face. Look at him.
Speaker 1: He's here. Please rag to the show. It's the brilliant
Speaker 1: and Jackson, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I feel like I should leave now.
Speaker 3: I don't think this could possible to get any better
Speaker 3: than that introduction.
Speaker 1: Man, It's it's true. I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1: You are. You are the Lady's favorite, extraordinary in an
Speaker 1: extraordinary way. I've had all kinds of people, mixed results,
Speaker 1: you know with you.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, well I'll try to disappoint everybody here in
Speaker 3: the next hour or so.
Speaker 1: Thank you if you could, because it's making it difficult
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, thank you for doing this show. It's
Speaker 1: very nice to meet you.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Thank you for making me
Speaker 3: go through the movies that I love. It was a
Speaker 3: really nice exercise.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Nice to get. Thanks for giving really
Speaker 1: important people homework. I I was looking at your CV,
Speaker 1: and you are in an unusual position of having done
Speaker 1: long hit series one after the other. Basically, it seems
Speaker 1: like from the outside you're very good at choosing things,
Speaker 1: and you're very good in things, and also all those
Speaker 1: things go pretty long. And I wondered if that is
Speaker 1: like by accident by design, or like do you do
Speaker 1: you enjoy it long term thing?
Speaker 2: Well, it's both. The first one was by accident.
Speaker 3: I was just a working kid and I had never
Speaker 3: worked in TV really, so I had no concept of
Speaker 3: what working in television was. I was nineteen, so I
Speaker 3: had no concept of what like a year was, let
Speaker 3: alone six years. That was not the timescale that I
Speaker 3: judged life at. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was everything because it was six years so it
Speaker 3: was wonderful. It was difficult, it was hard, it was sad,
Speaker 3: it was lonely, it was loving.
Speaker 2: It had all the.
Speaker 3: Experiences that you could pack into that time in your life,
Speaker 3: and I, on the heels of it knew that it
Speaker 3: also wasn't for me that I didn't want to go
Speaker 3: back into another experience like that, because I actually found
Speaker 3: in a way that I didn't know. I had actually
Speaker 3: tried to leave the show earlier in the show because
Speaker 3: I was homesick.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm a Vancouver boy.
Speaker 3: I was away from everything that I knew, living in
Speaker 3: a far away place, and they didn't let me leave,
Speaker 3: which I was a little bit of with at the time,
Speaker 3: but in retrospect was a fantastic thing because I didn't
Speaker 3: know how important it was going to be for me,
Speaker 3: just like spiritually to bring it all the way to
Speaker 3: the clothes right, how important that was going to feel.
Speaker 3: But I also knew that I didn't want to go
Speaker 3: back and do another television show. So I spent I
Speaker 3: think the next five ish years kind of in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: I went to play in London, made some independent movies,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't until Fringe that I really thought about
Speaker 3: doing television again, and that was mostly because of my
Speaker 3: love for The X Files. Truly, you know, after Dawson's ended,
Speaker 3: I spent my time in the wilderness and after the
Speaker 3: thing that brought me back was Fringe, And it really
Speaker 3: wasn't because I was having a conscious career choices. Just
Speaker 3: X Files is one of my favorite TV shows growing up,
Speaker 3: and having a conversation with jj Abrams about him making
Speaker 3: a new not X Files, but something in the vein
Speaker 3: of X Files and working in sci fi was the
Speaker 3: thing that brought me back to television. And I knew
Speaker 3: what I was getting into in the possibilities this time
Speaker 3: because I'd been.
Speaker 2: Around it once.
Speaker 3: But I I've never really been one for the five
Speaker 3: year plan. I've never really gamed out what my career
Speaker 3: was supposed to be. I don't know for better for worse,
Speaker 3: but I guess for better. I've been working for a
Speaker 3: long time now. And then on the heels of that,
Speaker 3: actually I knew I was really really burnt out just
Speaker 3: from well, you know, the experience of it is wonderful,
Speaker 3: it can be life changing, and it's also exhausting, right,
Speaker 3: It just takes a lot, the hours are long, the
Speaker 3: emotional cost is very real. So on the heels of that,
Speaker 3: I kind of went to hide on the Affair because
Speaker 3: originally that character was very supporting and like a couple
Speaker 3: of days a week, and I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: can deal with that, like I do a couple scenes
Speaker 3: an episode and then I'll duck out. That didn't quite
Speaker 3: work out that way, but that show was in the
Speaker 3: same way that the play that I did after Dawson's
Speaker 3: Creek was over kind of rekindled my love for being
Speaker 3: an actor. Working on the Affair with that group of
Speaker 3: actors and just having such a good time in the
Speaker 3: play part of what we do right. Fringe was a
Speaker 3: lot of about the grind and the work, but the
Speaker 3: Affair was playtime.
Speaker 2: That's it was such a lovely group of people.
Speaker 3: We enjoyed each other's companies so much, and everybody was
Speaker 3: there to do the same thing, to try to be
Speaker 3: as good as they could be to you know, service
Speaker 3: the words and that also recent it just reminded me
Speaker 3: of the thing the reason why I kept on doing
Speaker 3: this after all of the other stuff that comes with it,
Speaker 3: and then streaming kind of exploded and suddenly you could
Speaker 3: do one year show.
Speaker 2: So this is a what twenty minute answer to a
Speaker 2: simple question.
Speaker 3: But then I like working on long form things, even
Speaker 3: though before this moment in my life, I found like
Speaker 3: three and four and five years kind of an intimidating
Speaker 3: amount of time to commit. Suddenly there's all these one
Speaker 3: year shows and it's like, this is amazing. I get
Speaker 3: to go and tell a character story for you know, six, eight, ten,
Speaker 3: twelve episodes, and then I'm free.
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, can I ask you? There's two things I
Speaker 1: would like to ask you. One is I'm always interested,
Speaker 1: like you're an unusual or maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: As in, you were very young when you got very famous,
Speaker 1: you had you you were nineteen, and that was an
Speaker 1: insanely kind of pre internet, right was it pre Internet?
Speaker 3: It was the equivalent pre Yeah, I mean the Internet existed,
Speaker 3: but it was just pre like everything exploded.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and yet I was in England and that
Speaker 1: I was as big as anyway, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like as in it really was a huge thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you cope with that as such a young man?
Speaker 1: As well? Like did it fuck you up? Did it?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Did you mean like that was part of the It's
Speaker 3: part of the reason I wanted to go home, right,
Speaker 3: because there's so much You know, I'm nineteen years old,
Speaker 3: and by the second or third season, I'm making as
Speaker 3: much money in a week as most of my.
Speaker 2: Friend's parents are making in a year. Right, that'll fuck
Speaker 2: you up.
Speaker 3: And then the aposter syndrome that goes along with that,
Speaker 3: and then there's the weird overlay of like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: now you're a role model for kids, and you're a kid,
Speaker 3: and I definitely did not feel like a role model
Speaker 3: and certainly did not behave like a role model.
Speaker 2: Thank god, this was in the pre social media era.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all of.
Speaker 3: That and this is why it's not why they made
Speaker 3: me stay, but it's why I recognize now that it
Speaker 3: was so important for me to stay and stick this
Speaker 3: out because I had to go through all those things
Speaker 3: and then get to the place of actually finishing that show.
Speaker 3: I needed all that growing up, and I needed to
Speaker 3: do it in what was ultimately kind of a protected environment.
Speaker 3: Because we weren't in la or New York or else
Speaker 3: I think my life story would be very different. We
Speaker 3: were in Wilmington, and again, it was a group of
Speaker 3: young actors who cared about what they were doing right,
Speaker 3: and so we were our own quality control. Whereas I
Speaker 3: think if we were doing that show in LA and
Speaker 3: there's go Out and there's all the rest of us,
Speaker 3: the noise that comes along with it, it would have been
Speaker 3: very easy to be distracted. I was very distractable at nineteen.
Speaker 1: I should imagine. Yeah, it's interesting because if you had
Speaker 1: left early, it probably would have been like a thing
Speaker 1: you were bitter about, or like it would have been
Speaker 1: parts of you story. The narrative was like fuck it
Speaker 1: and those guys or whatever. It is nice, So you
Speaker 1: completed that. Interesting, And what about now? Because I assume
Speaker 1: you have many options? What is it other than you?
Speaker 1: It's only a year, like, what is it? No?
Speaker 2: This show? So it's funny.
Speaker 3: If we were having this conversation four years ago, the
Speaker 3: answer would be completely different. But I have a daughter now,
Speaker 3: and so thank you. She's lovely and she's just about
Speaker 3: to start school, and I want to be here, I
Speaker 3: want to be around. And suddenly the math of my
Speaker 3: life has completely changed. Whereas you know, prior to my daughter,
Speaker 3: it was all about me in going, like traveling and
Speaker 3: doing whatever it was that I felt like satisfied my itch,
Speaker 3: and now it's really like I want to be able
Speaker 3: to take her to school in the morning, and be
Speaker 3: there for her dance recitals and and just be present
Speaker 3: for her and as much as possible provide her with
Speaker 3: the stability of a normal kid life if that's in
Speaker 3: LA but.
Speaker 2: To be determined. But so into that space.
Speaker 3: And I'm going through a divorce, so there's that instability
Speaker 3: in her life anyway, So into that space. As we
Speaker 3: came out of the strike last year and everybody was
Speaker 3: starting to gear up for work, I was like, look,
Speaker 3: I really am deeply motivated to stay here. And so
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody's shooting in LA, but I
Speaker 3: really really want to be here to be able to
Speaker 3: do all of this stuff for my kid. And into
Speaker 3: that space comes Doctor Odyssey, which has been so far
Speaker 3: like just so much fun. It's a show built for fun,
Speaker 3: which is also really nice. Like I've played a series
Speaker 3: like the last ten years of my life have been
Speaker 3: like very shitty, depressed men or psychopaths, and so to
Speaker 3: now be working on something where everything is sort of
Speaker 3: on the front foot and it's light and it's fancy,
Speaker 3: and it is just a complete revelation. I come home
Speaker 3: from work and I'm like, oh this, I feel good
Speaker 3: about myself, amazing, this is great. I don't need twenty
Speaker 3: minutes at the door to just be like, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, just get it off my chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck, I'm very happy for you. That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Yeah, life is good.
Speaker 1: That is good. It sounds like you've got to figure
Speaker 1: it out. But now this is very good for today. However,
Speaker 1: I have forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm shit.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I forgot. I fucking should have said it sooner,
Speaker 1: rastic because you had all these plans. But oh god,
Speaker 1: it's written here everyday, it's happened to me before. Actually,
Speaker 1: I sort of prepare for the and I forget to
Speaker 1: say that you've died. You're dead.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 3: That really it completely changes the outlook for my Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's a bit different. But how did you die?
Speaker 3: Well, strangely, we're forty years into the future, because that
Speaker 3: will be the first time that I can I can
Speaker 3: die because I have to be here.
Speaker 1: For this kid.
Speaker 3: It's very agree But in forty years I had some
Speaker 3: terminal illness and decided to like go helly skiing for
Speaker 3: one last time.
Speaker 1: Where you go up in a helicopter and jump out
Speaker 1: it's gate.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well one way trip.
Speaker 1: I love it. And what just just just skate off
Speaker 1: a cliff?
Speaker 3: Well, I think they used to in the First Nations
Speaker 3: traditions in the north of Canada, when somebody knew that
Speaker 3: they were old and past their usefulness to the nation,
Speaker 3: to the tribe, they just wandered out into the cold
Speaker 3: and then just sat down and let themselves go. So
Speaker 3: that would be my version is just go off into
Speaker 3: the mountains and be gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, I like that. I really like that, and I
Speaker 1: respect it, and I think that's how most people should go.
Speaker 1: I think we should all die like cats. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: just go quietly into the woods about it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Love you. Yeah, it's not you, it's me. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: That's a lovely That's really lovely. Do you worry about death?
Speaker 2: I'm more cognizant of my life now.
Speaker 3: I'm not so worried about death yet, but I am
Speaker 3: way more cognizant of my I'm way more precious.
Speaker 2: With my life now than I was five years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, this kid has really changed to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in ways that I'm still just discovering. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was very ready to be a father, and before
Speaker 3: I met my ex wife, I had started to give
Speaker 3: up on the on the dream of it because to me,
Speaker 3: there's kind of a sell by date of when I
Speaker 3: would want to start. And then the miracle happened and
Speaker 3: she felt pregnant, and into my life comes this baby.
Speaker 3: And I think everybody at the beginning, you have all
Speaker 3: these plans, right, you have this idea of what it's
Speaker 3: going to be and who this person is going to be,
Speaker 3: and who you're going to be to this person, And
Speaker 3: I really missed that I will eventually teach her something
Speaker 3: of value, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: But what really the flow has been in my direction.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm confident, but yeah, but yeah, she has
Speaker 3: just like one you open up a patience inside of
Speaker 3: it yourself that you didn't know existed. And it is
Speaker 3: true that you just you know, you find this space
Speaker 3: of love that is totally new, that you had no
Speaker 3: idea you had that capacity. And in a way that
Speaker 3: as an actor, you know, there's a lot of days
Speaker 3: as an actor that there isn't really a good reason
Speaker 3: to get out of bed, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you have to convince yourself of some purpose to
Speaker 3: like wash your ass and go about a day. There's
Speaker 3: just nothing of value that you're going to do. So
Speaker 3: that part of my life is gone now right, I
Speaker 3: know what the purpose of every day for the foreseeable
Speaker 3: future is going to be. And then to take this
Speaker 3: into a deeper place, like I'm a child of a
Speaker 3: broken family. My father was gone from the time I
Speaker 3: was very very young, and you know, I'm going through
Speaker 3: this divorce and so I didn't get there on the
Speaker 3: first part of this, but I had thought, I what
Speaker 3: part of my purpose in having this child was, Like
Speaker 3: I'm going to create an environment or be part of
Speaker 3: a partnership that creates an environment that shows this kid
Speaker 3: how a man and woman can create a stable environment.
Speaker 3: And as it turns out, what I think think this
Speaker 3: kid came into my life for was to teach me
Speaker 3: what the love of a father is because I didn't
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Oh the fucking all the women that tell
Speaker 1: me you were the hottest guy are listening to this,
Speaker 1: and their ivories are explaining what a beautiful answer. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. That's really nice. Yeah, do you did? You
Speaker 1: may ask and you don't have for us. Did you
Speaker 1: have a relationship with your dad or he was gone?
Speaker 2: He was gone gone.
Speaker 3: I found him when I was in my early twenties
Speaker 3: and said my peace with him.
Speaker 2: But we never I and this was me.
Speaker 3: I did not have the desire to spend the time
Speaker 3: to create that relationship as an adult.
Speaker 2: And he's pass away.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. Fascinating, Well, look at this a bit lovely.
Speaker 1: What do you What do you think happens after you die?
Speaker 2: I think we're gone?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but clearly I'm wrong because I'm here and
Speaker 3: I'm dead.
Speaker 1: Well, you think you you jump, come to you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ride into the snow, you sit down, and you
Speaker 1: die and then it's just black out.
Speaker 3: It'll be nice if it's that quick. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not really.
Speaker 1: It's good a while to die. Yeah, take a minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really metaphysically minded like that, you know
Speaker 3: I feel. I mean, you decompose and you go back
Speaker 3: into the component pieces that you were. But I don't
Speaker 3: know that I believe that your consciousness, that your sense
Speaker 3: of self. I just don't think we matter that much
Speaker 3: to the universe.
Speaker 1: Well it's an interesting theory, but completely wrong and completely
Speaker 1: impressed and there is there is a heaven. There's a heaven,
Speaker 1: and it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 1: My daughter? Fuck? All right, heaven is your daughter? Right?
Speaker 1: Your daughter's there, and she's just very excited to see you.
Speaker 1: And she's only come to visit because she's still alive.
Speaker 1: This is for your future, but she's just come to
Speaker 1: visit and very excited to see you. Want to know
Speaker 1: all about your life because she's forgotten it on the
Speaker 1: trip to heaven. But really she wants to know about
Speaker 1: your life through film, which is weird. And the first
Speaker 1: thing that she asked you is like, what's the first
Speaker 1: film you remember seeing? Joshua Jackson.
Speaker 3: The first film that I have a definitive memory of seeing,
Speaker 3: I'm sure is not like a story that I've heard
Speaker 3: from that because I thought it was et, But I
Speaker 3: think that's actually a story that I've heard about the
Speaker 3: first movie.
Speaker 2: That I saw.
Speaker 1: That's an implanted memory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: The first movie that I definitively remember seeing is Star
Speaker 3: Wars on VHS at a friend of mine's house, A
Speaker 3: bunch of like six or seven year old boys sitting
Speaker 3: around with one VHS and we wore that tape out?
Speaker 1: Is that what got you into sci fi? Was that
Speaker 1: the beginning?
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, that was probably it must have been
Speaker 3: the beginning, because I would have been reading but at
Speaker 3: a basic level. And yeah, you go into this fantasy
Speaker 3: world that at that point is completely immersive and your
Speaker 3: imagination is so open to possibility. Yeah, and I loved it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get enough.
Speaker 1: It's fucking cool. Do you have brothers and sisters for
Speaker 1: you any child?
Speaker 3: I have a little sister who's my full blooded sister,
Speaker 3: and I have two older half brothers that I wasn't
Speaker 3: raised with, but we become friendly as adults.
Speaker 2: My father's first kids.
Speaker 1: Right. Wow, this is quite a story and you should
Speaker 1: write a book about it. Something to think about, Joshua.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could just get to work on that book. Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: What is the film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 1: Are you a crier in the real world?
Speaker 3: I am not much of a crier. I think crying
Speaker 3: is really good. I think it's very healthy. Yes, I
Speaker 3: hear this, and I just don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I hear it's good for you,
Speaker 1: but I don't like to look at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have to do it occasionally for work,
Speaker 3: and I know that doesn't really.
Speaker 2: Count, but I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I
Speaker 2: haven't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: I totally get that, because don't you feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did I did it. Yeah you can go. I'm
Speaker 1: like it, yeah, imactually look.
Speaker 2: At me exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm so emotionally available. I'm such an evolved man. Look
Speaker 3: at me in touch with my emotions.
Speaker 1: Sure, crying is a psychopath, but crying still crying.
Speaker 2: He's got trauma.
Speaker 3: But I do know the two, so I can remember,
Speaker 3: like I'm more at this age, like get misty eyed person.
Speaker 2: That happens to me a lot more than it used to.
Speaker 3: But I do remember the two films actually that big
Speaker 3: ugly weeping cry like bad. And one of them is
Speaker 3: kind of a funny story. Well one of them was
Speaker 3: on a date, so I guess that's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: It's hard to hard that dates over. There was no
Speaker 3: romance after that. And then another one was with a
Speaker 3: long ago ex girlfriend who was I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I'm sure what was the date film? What was the
Speaker 1: date film?
Speaker 3: The date film was called Mata dentro, but it's for us,
Speaker 3: it's the c inside so have your bed them film?
Speaker 2: Did you see this movie?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, a date?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I didn't. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was like, I think I
Speaker 3: was like in the jury at a film festival. It
Speaker 3: was like yeah, and then we get watched this movie
Speaker 3: and the.
Speaker 2: End it's just so yeah.
Speaker 1: It was with a big hoodie.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and then sneak in and out and
Speaker 3: then don't drive a car or do anything serious afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even rescue it enough with her to like
Speaker 2: get into film.
Speaker 3: Criticism afterwards to be like, you know, well, it's just interesting.
Speaker 1: I was like, what was the other one?
Speaker 3: And the other one was Michael Hanneke is Amour and
Speaker 3: that one, yeah, lord.
Speaker 2: And that one.
Speaker 3: So I was at the Can. This is so douchey,
Speaker 3: but it's true. I was at the Can premiere. So
Speaker 3: I'm in my full black and white Pengin suit, sitting
Speaker 3: next to my girlfriend, beautiful woman who's all decked.
Speaker 2: Out in a room filled with jewels.
Speaker 3: And I mean, just like everybody an old Hollywood moments, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And if you've seen that film, it starts like a
Speaker 3: horror movie, right, and you are in so much or
Speaker 3: I was in so much tension. I'm like on the chair,
Speaker 3: white knuckling the beginning, and I can feel as the
Speaker 3: emotion starts building, I can feel it coming, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you are not fucking doing this in this room right now,
Speaker 3: with these people.
Speaker 2: You are gonna be a man, and.
Speaker 3: You're gonna watch this movie and you're gonna be able
Speaker 3: to talk about it with no quiver in your voice
Speaker 3: when we're done. And then there's like fifteen twenty minutes
Speaker 3: into it, there is a comedy break, right, there's a
Speaker 3: moment of levity, and consciously I said to myself, laugh
Speaker 3: and it'll let.
Speaker 2: The tension out of your body. You're gonna be good.
Speaker 3: But what actually came out of me was oh, and
Speaker 3: then tears. And then I think I cried solidly for
Speaker 3: like an hour and a half. No, could not get
Speaker 3: myself back together. And then so then the movie ends, right,
Speaker 3: and the only good thing is the lights come up
Speaker 3: and you see everybody's wrecked. Everybody scares, everybody, everybody's wreck
Speaker 3: I thought I was in my own personal hell, but
Speaker 3: every buddy's destroyed. And then, because it's a fancy movie premiere,
Speaker 3: you're supposed to walk outside and there's a party next
Speaker 3: door and can being canned. Half the people there are
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 1: And you can.
Speaker 3: Literally see the divide in the middle of the room
Speaker 3: because like the people who had just come from the
Speaker 3: film are all just like.
Speaker 2: And everybody's like amazing, and Diana, I had to get
Speaker 2: out of there.
Speaker 3: We literally went home, laid in bed silently and just
Speaker 3: cried for half an hour. Couldn't even tell you, like
Speaker 3: even starting the sentence of like, do you remember when,
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2: That was about Oki.
Speaker 1: Hell well, I don't blame you. That is a hard
Speaker 1: cool That is a hard cool film. My goodness, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was what about being scared? What's the film that
Speaker 1: scared you? Then said, do you like being scared? Joshua
Speaker 1: Jackson don't love it?
Speaker 2: Don't love me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first movie that's scared me to death was the
Speaker 3: First night Mare on Elm Street. Watched that when I
Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to, probably like eleven or twelve, another VHS
Speaker 3: moment or a sleepover.
Speaker 2: I was wrecked for like a week, couldn't sleep. I
Speaker 2: was in real trouble.
Speaker 3: So I think that would be I don't know that
Speaker 3: anything like Alien but that was later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I just could not. I could I
Speaker 2: had no.
Speaker 3: Capacity, like Freddy Kruper, Oh my god, Freddy Krueger. So
Speaker 3: I watch Freddy Krueger when I'm like eleven or twelve
Speaker 3: years old, right, And then not that long, probably three
Speaker 3: four years later, we're in California visiting a friend of mine,
Speaker 3: friend of my mom's, and there's a movie filming, but
Speaker 3: we don't know what's going on as there's like a
Speaker 3: ding dong at the door and the kids all go
Speaker 3: to answer the door, not just like it's cool, there's
Speaker 3: a movie outside, and we opened the door and it's
Speaker 3: fucking Freddy Krueger. What because what they were filming is
Speaker 3: one of the Nightmare on Elm Streets. And he was
Speaker 3: going around with one of the PA's like hey, sorry
Speaker 3: and like do a little like crowd work, basically like sorry, man,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be And but a bunch of twelve year
Speaker 3: olds opened the door and saw Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 2: And again I was just.
Speaker 3: Like I could not handle it. Yeah, yeah, you didn't
Speaker 3: think that's it was a similar time. The eighties were weird. Man, whoa, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be in your street. Fuck it out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what is the film that you love?
Speaker 3: It is not critically acclaimed, people don't really like it,
Speaker 3: but you love it no matter what. So for this
Speaker 3: I had two. One is The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen.
Speaker 3: I think this is maybe not a love movie, but
Speaker 3: I love this movie.
Speaker 1: Good answer, Yeah, really good answer.
Speaker 3: And I just it's beautiful and it's inventive. And I was,
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably in my early teens when it
Speaker 3: came out, maybe even younger when it came out and
Speaker 3: you know, became a man watching Uma Thurman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I just.
Speaker 3: So appreciated the story of stories being life.
Speaker 2: Even at that age.
Speaker 3: I just so identified with the idea of like you
Speaker 3: are truly alive when you're telling your story and when
Speaker 3: you're living your story.
Speaker 2: I love that movie. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful and said, I don't know that's ever
Speaker 1: come up on this. Yes, well done. That's ten points
Speaker 1: for you. Fuck it. I always had the points out.
Speaker 2: That's ten nice.
Speaker 1: On the other end of this, guy, what is a
Speaker 1: film that you used to love very much but you've
Speaker 1: watched it recently and you've thought, oh, I don't like
Speaker 1: this anymore.
Speaker 3: So when I was thinking about this, this basically applies
Speaker 3: to every comedy I grew up with, because man, eighties
Speaker 3: and nineties comedies.
Speaker 1: They day quick, they day quick.
Speaker 3: But the movie that I actually is the one because
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time watching cartoons, and particularly
Speaker 3: Disney cartoons Aladdin, Aladdin. I loved that movie, and boy
Speaker 3: through through the modern lens, it's tough, like it's riddled.
Speaker 3: The first time I was watching it with my daughter, I.
Speaker 2: Was just like, Ah, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 2: explaining to do at the end of this one.
Speaker 4: Like you take it, yeah, exactly, Like do I tell
Speaker 4: you about these archetypes now? Or do I let the
Speaker 4: indoctrination happen first and then try to unravel it later.
Speaker 1: Do I teach her that men have nipples? It's good.
Speaker 2: Things you gotta know, but maybe not today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need this now. One day you are
Speaker 1: goer than me, but eventually freaking the fuck out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film itself is good, but the experience
Speaker 1: you had seeing it always makes it special to you.
Speaker 1: Joshua Jackson, That one's pulp fiction it tell me.
Speaker 2: And the reason why.
Speaker 3: It's the first time I watched the movie and was
Speaker 3: aware in the theater that it was speaking to me,
Speaker 3: that it wasn't my mom's movie, right, it wasn't an
Speaker 3: adult film that it was the first time I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I get this this like, I get these references, I
Speaker 3: get the rhythm of this language. This is totally I
Speaker 3: get the filmmaking, like I've now graduated into being who
Speaker 3: the movies are speaking to.
Speaker 2: And I just so remember how cool that felt.
Speaker 3: Because my mom gave me a really good education in
Speaker 3: film and was willing to expose me to things probably
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 3: Always cognizant of the fact that, like I was in
Speaker 3: her world and she was. She was allowing me to
Speaker 3: see what grown ups got to do. But I but
Speaker 3: it wasn't really for me yet. And I remember seeing that.
Speaker 3: I remember the theater I was in and who I
Speaker 3: was with when I watched that movie. That's what an
Speaker 3: impression it.
Speaker 1: Made on me. I like that, Yeah. Can I ask,
Speaker 1: given your situation, were you very close with your mom?
Speaker 1: How you were you very Yeah?
Speaker 2: Ok, yeah, she's upstairs right now.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like, yeah, yeah, so were you separate, separate
Speaker 1: when you were doing Those's Creek then what was she there? Yes?
Speaker 2: She no, no, she was.
Speaker 3: So I have my little sister and she was still mom,
Speaker 3: right so, and this was really the story of my
Speaker 3: working youth. When I would go away, I would have
Speaker 3: to go away with somebody else because Mom still had
Speaker 3: to be a mom.
Speaker 2: But she did.
Speaker 3: But then I would work, and you know, she raised
Speaker 3: the two of us by yourself. I hope her ears
Speaker 3: burning up there. She's recovering from a broken ankle and
Speaker 3: I'm being a good son. But at this moment she's
Speaker 3: on the wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm dead. What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Give it a bright? What is the film you
Speaker 1: must relate to?
Speaker 2: The film that I most relate to?
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 3: I don't think I was able to come up.
Speaker 1: With People often struggle with this web. Yeah, it's okay
Speaker 1: if you have.
Speaker 3: The one that I came up with is actually Forrest Gump.
Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that it's the perfect answer. But
Speaker 3: Forrest Gump was is what jumps into my mind.
Speaker 1: Because your journey or because you're.
Speaker 3: I think again, I mean, I hope I'm not Forrest.
Speaker 3: But I felt like Forrest, right, I have lived a life.
Speaker 1: You lived a crazy life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I've lived a life filled with many lives and tried
Speaker 3: to be as decent as I could be through all
Speaker 3: of them, with the total understanding that I have been
Speaker 3: an absolute prick at times and had to learn and
Speaker 3: you know, go through all the bumps and bruises of
Speaker 3: being a human. But I found I found that movie
Speaker 3: enjoyable when it came out and in the years the
Speaker 3: times that I've seen it since, and it's it's funny,
Speaker 3: it's also had it's like it was a big hit,
Speaker 3: but then everybody thought it was, like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: not a not a great film, and it's gone through
Speaker 3: these like ups and downs of acceptance. I relate to that, you're.
Speaker 1: The public perception of it over the years, Yes.
Speaker 3: But I also there's just there's a lack of cynicism
Speaker 3: to that movie and his performance in specific that I
Speaker 3: really I have always strived, both in my professional life
Speaker 3: and my personal life to not succumb to cynicism, which
Speaker 3: I think is it's like a cheap cop out.
Speaker 1: I agree, I really agree. I think it's it's harder,
Speaker 1: it's actually it's harder to to not be cynical. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it has more or there are many more doors
Speaker 1: throughout I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes with additional pains, but the richness far
Speaker 3: out seeds, or at least so far, the richness far
Speaker 3: out sea exceeds the pain that you have to go through.
Speaker 1: Also, something he said that I relate to, and I
Speaker 1: guess his forest come is he doesn't have a five
Speaker 1: year plan. He's sorts of guys on a series of journeys,
Speaker 1: none of which he necessarily plans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like from a very young age, was uncomfortable
Speaker 3: with the idea that I was an artist. I always
Speaker 3: felt way more like I was a crafts person.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: But if I am at all an artists, I think that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the five year plan is antithetical to the idea of
Speaker 3: living a good life, you know. It just like you
Speaker 3: have to be open and available to the things as
Speaker 3: they come along, which is not like I don't find
Speaker 3: myself to be a frivolous person, but I just think, one,
Speaker 3: it's not the way my brain works. But two, it's
Speaker 3: just like it's such a prescriptive way to think about life.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you had literally sat me down five
Speaker 3: years ago and given me even the vague details of
Speaker 3: where I'm sitting right now, it would have been in
Speaker 3: conceivable to me, right, And that would be true for
Speaker 3: every five year block in my life, going back to
Speaker 3: the first block that I can remember.
Speaker 2: And the richness of my life has not been that.
Speaker 3: I was like, I must have that to be happy
Speaker 3: or satisfied or successful, whatever the fuck it was that
Speaker 3: I wanted. It was like, Okay, I'm sort of vaguely
Speaker 3: going in this direction, and then I get pulled off
Speaker 3: in this eddie and oh my god, look at this
Speaker 3: thing that's happened, and oh my Jesus, this is miserable,
Speaker 3: and then oh no, I'm good again, and then you
Speaker 3: come back. So yeah, really I related to that as
Speaker 3: a character trait, right, that he is he is himself,
Speaker 3: and yet he is.
Speaker 2: Buffeted by the storms of time and life.
Speaker 1: He's yes and improviser, He's like things are of and
Speaker 1: he says yes and yes, and this is why he
Speaker 1: has a very exciting life. I agree with you. I've
Speaker 1: never had a five year plan because I also was like,
Speaker 1: everything's fucking chaos. How could you have it? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, it's fucking chaos. Yeah, we thought
Speaker 1: that was going to happen anyway. Yeah, interesting, what is
Speaker 1: the sexiest film ever made?
Speaker 2: So for this I put down The Hunger Good Show.
Speaker 1: You get twenty points. I mean that's come up twenty Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: season surrounding Catherine de Nerve having a case.
Speaker 3: Yes please, yes, please, yes, absolutely knocking about wonderful stuff,
Speaker 3: that's cool, music makes you feel classic? Yes, please exactly exactly,
Speaker 3: I'm not dirty. It's a classic film.
Speaker 1: Great, perfect answer. There's a subcategory. I'm afraid troubling Boner
Speaker 1: is worrying. Why does the film you found arousing you
Speaker 1: weren't sure you should?
Speaker 3: So this one also falls into my category, even though
Speaker 3: it's still a great film and I love watching it,
Speaker 3: but it falls into my category of movies that don't
Speaker 3: hold up for the reason that it is a troubling
Speaker 3: Boner movie for me, which is the professional Oh fucking
Speaker 3: that it's such a it's so good, troubling is It's
Speaker 3: just so like when I was fifteen and she was thirteen,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm okay with this, and then very
Speaker 3: swiftly after that, I was like, God, this is.
Speaker 1: That is a really weird film. In hind I was
Speaker 1: also very young when it when I saw it and
Speaker 1: was like, so it was fine, Me and I were
Speaker 1: the same age. But it is very in hindsight, you
Speaker 1: go so weird that that film existed and was loved
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 3: Know, loved and yeah, beloved and beloved, acclaimed, and a
Speaker 3: whole group of men who are our age now watched
Speaker 3: that movie and love that movie.
Speaker 1: That it's a weird world. Everything's fucking this is what
Speaker 1: I mean. Everything's fucking chaos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's so out, it's just so Yeah, it's inappropriate,
Speaker 3: it is inappropriate. So that's my movie that it fits
Speaker 3: into both of those categories, really really good answers, inappropriate
Speaker 3: boner for sure, and also like god, it's a problematic.
Speaker 1: Watch what a film. That's why it's Aladdin that one. Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is objectively the greatest film about? Might not be
Speaker 1: your favorite, but it's the best of cinema.
Speaker 3: That I have no idea for the objective best. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is a kind of novice answer, but what I
Speaker 3: love more than anything about what it is that we
Speaker 3: do for a living and telling stories. I have an
Speaker 3: idea of the what it is that I'm trying to
Speaker 3: tell you, and you don't give a fuck because you
Speaker 3: have your whole life experience and whatever happened that day
Speaker 3: and the meal that you just had, and maybe you
Speaker 3: had a cocktail and maybe you didn't, and that's how
Speaker 3: you take it in and that's what your impression of
Speaker 3: it is. And so if it hits you, that to me,
Speaker 3: that's the point, right, Like, yes, it has to meet
Speaker 3: a minimum level of quality, and yes, you know you
Speaker 3: need to have all the elements work together, and yes,
Speaker 3: filmmaking and cinema are important, and the experiences, but if
Speaker 3: it doesn't touch you, it doesn't matter. And so there
Speaker 3: are movies like Amore is not the greatest film ever.
Speaker 3: It's a very very well made movie that's beautifully performed,
Speaker 3: pretty simple, but it wrecked me, right, just me. And
Speaker 3: there are movies that I've watched that are supposed to
Speaker 3: be important, films that I'm told are amazing, but I
Speaker 3: find them completely cold and they just missed me and
Speaker 3: they're not for me.
Speaker 2: So I don't have an objective best.
Speaker 3: I have lists of movies in my head that are
Speaker 3: like four certain feelings, but I don't have one that
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that is the best we've ever done.
Speaker 1: Listen he answid Why it's a stupid question? Sure, that's basic.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to give a long winded answer of
Speaker 3: like why that's a dumb question.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, sure, I mean it's my heaven.
Speaker 2: I can I can do what I want.
Speaker 1: Could you give me the list? Can you give me
Speaker 1: five from the list?
Speaker 3: Chinatown Shashank Redemption, cool Hand.
Speaker 1: Luke ten points for co Hand Lake hasn't come up before.
Speaker 2: Cool Hand Luke's never come up as the best.
Speaker 1: I don't think it has.
Speaker 3: That's an oversight. I mean, you could just put Paul
Speaker 3: Newman in general. Yeah, but I think I think that's
Speaker 3: a flawless film, right. I think it is brave and
Speaker 3: in storytelling. It's obviously brilliantly performed. It's brilliantly directed, and
Speaker 3: it's incredibly moving, and it's funny and it's touching, and
Speaker 3: it's just light enough to be able to earn the heaviness.
Speaker 2: I think that's a that's yeah, it's a brilliant film.
Speaker 1: Would you're very good at this? All right? It's the
Speaker 1: next one. What is the film that you could or
Speaker 1: have watched the most over and over again?
Speaker 2: That's Shoshank Redemption for sure.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shashank Redemption. I like that movie so much.
Speaker 3: Remember back in the days when we all had cable,
Speaker 3: long before streaming, and there were those channels sort of
Speaker 3: like up in the high digits that were scrambled. Yeah,
Speaker 3: at least in Vancouver, they were scrambled, but you could
Speaker 3: get the audio. You couldn't really see the picture, but
Speaker 3: you could get the art. I've watched from beginning to end,
Speaker 3: the Shashank Redemption just.
Speaker 1: An audio the radio play, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like a green spinach wavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and cried cried to the audio.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I can.
Speaker 3: I don't remember specifically crying to the audio, and that
Speaker 3: movie doesn't make me cry, but I do love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, it's a really wonderful film. And I've
Speaker 1: said it before, but so fascinating that he made that
Speaker 1: and then the mist.
Speaker 2: Yeah he went ze, I'm good on that.
Speaker 1: On the other side of hope, yeah this.
Speaker 2: He's like, well I got that out of my system.
Speaker 1: I felt good when I write that, but that was
Speaker 1: a one off. Let's get back to Lisa.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like to be negative, so we don't have
Speaker 1: to spend long time on it. But what's the worst
Speaker 1: film you ever saw?
Speaker 3: So this is a very long list. So arbitrarily, I'm
Speaker 3: just going to say Cowboys Versus Aliens.
Speaker 2: I know you saw this movie.
Speaker 3: It's terrible, But what I actually wrote down was cynical
Speaker 3: studio movies. The hallmark of a bad movie to me
Speaker 3: is when every frame is cynically trying to get something.
Speaker 2: Out of it, even if it's an emotion.
Speaker 3: I hate that. I really despise it. So I don't
Speaker 3: know why I picked that one, but it was the
Speaker 3: one that was the top of mind. But this is
Speaker 3: a long list.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I think about that? Cowboys it
Speaker 1: was versus Aliens? Yeah, and Aliens nol versus.
Speaker 2: I think I didn't actually look this one up. I
Speaker 2: didn't check my work.
Speaker 1: When I saw that film, I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: think what's wrong with this film is that it's very heavy.
Speaker 1: It's like it's called Cowboys Best Aliens, and it is
Speaker 1: not fun in any way. There's no fun in any way.
Speaker 1: It's like a really serious, heavy, ponderous drama about cowboys.
Speaker 1: West said is You're like, well, you've got to change
Speaker 1: the title if you want to take this seat. You've
Speaker 1: you've sewed us a fun time out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're funny. What's the film that made you
Speaker 1: laugh the most?
Speaker 3: The movie that I remember laughing the hard is that
Speaker 3: in the theater is the Beavis and butt Heead movie.
Speaker 3: The Beavis and butt Heead movie is the only time
Speaker 3: I can remember actually falling out of my seat laughing
Speaker 3: so hard.
Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, do you know what, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 3: I hate to admit that. Obviously it was a it
Speaker 3: was a moment, right, I don't. I cannot tell you
Speaker 3: if it holds up. I have not seen this movie
Speaker 3: in many years, but I remember sitting with my friend
Speaker 3: Mike and we were in La I think we were
Speaker 3: at the Man's Chinese Theater, and I think it was
Speaker 3: there's a whole like acid or mushroom trip sequence in
Speaker 3: the middle.
Speaker 2: Of it and whatever.
Speaker 3: It just like tickled my funny bone and I was
Speaker 3: giggling so hard I couldn't breathe and I literally had
Speaker 3: to go to my knees in the aisle to try
Speaker 3: to catch my breath.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you know, there's.
Speaker 1: A new one. Have you seen the new one? Because
Speaker 1: I heard it's brilliant. I heard if you like the
Speaker 1: new one's brilliant, I definitely need it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joshua Jackson, what's a joy you have been? However,
Speaker 1: when you were in your late eighties or however old,
Speaker 1: I don't know how old you are now, but let's
Speaker 1: assume forty.
Speaker 2: Years it would be eighty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, when you're eighty six, you've got a turn
Speaker 1: of illness. You kept it under your app it's not
Speaker 1: one of the fun ones. And you've gone, hey, everyone,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just going helly skin, and they go, really,
Speaker 1: should we come? Nah? Just just want to clear my head.
Speaker 1: Are you sure? You probably need some companw No, I
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. So you saying his case, you
Speaker 1: hung everyone you're happen to heading up to The guy
Speaker 1: drops you off of the top mantain and the guy says,
Speaker 1: how long do you want to be? Pick you up
Speaker 1: and hit you. Guy, don't worry about it. I see
Speaker 1: it a bit, and he goes, no, I'll come back.
Speaker 1: He liked it that. I'll just scal the way down.
Speaker 1: You say, he goes, okay, off he goes. You have
Speaker 1: a nice ski. You see the majesty of the universe.
Speaker 1: You see this guy, You see everything, and then you
Speaker 1: ski beautifully down and you fall over a bit and
Speaker 1: you land where you land, and you think, oh, just
Speaker 1: sit here, and you sit there and over a period
Speaker 1: of two to three weeks.
Speaker 3: Very very very slowly, very miserably ration and starvation.
Speaker 1: Free, and your arm falls off and you're like, fucking
Speaker 1: he could Maybe I should have just jumped off on
Speaker 1: its cliffs. But by that point anyway, I'm climbing Everest
Speaker 1: with a coffin, you know what I'm like. And I
Speaker 1: see this mound, what's that? Go over and we dig
Speaker 1: around and go, oh my god, that's Joshah Jackson. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: he looks dead and we got fucked. We try and
Speaker 1: get you in the coffin, but because of the eyes
Speaker 1: you've expanded. Trying to chop you up, chop you up,
Speaker 1: chop you up into bits, I stuff you in the coffin.
Speaker 1: There's no room in there. There's only enough room in
Speaker 1: this coffin for me to slide one DVD into the
Speaker 1: side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And on the other side its movie night every night.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show your daughter when
Speaker 1: she comes to visit in heaven when it is your
Speaker 1: movie night, Joshia or Jackson.
Speaker 3: Go the answer that I had written down before I
Speaker 3: knew how I died, cool handbook.
Speaker 2: But now that I know how, I've died with with
Speaker 2: a very cold hand.
Speaker 3: And since it is my little girl who's coming to
Speaker 3: see me, I think I take. I mean this changes
Speaker 3: every couple of weeks, but I think I take Moana
Speaker 3: because it's the first movie that we watched together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow, she can come on in forty years
Speaker 1: because that is a fucking great that's film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Josha Jackson, what's an absolute privilege and a joy this
Speaker 1: has been? Is there anything you would like to plug
Speaker 1: tell people to look out for and watch with you
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 3: Yes, please please, because I'm really enjoying it, so I
Speaker 3: want it to be as successful as humanly possible. Please
Speaker 3: watch Doctor Odyssey starting in late September.
Speaker 1: On What's It ABC. Okay, well, I've loved this. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time and fun. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: And I'm so sorry for all the women listening that
Speaker 1: he's better than you imagine. So this is a disaster.
Speaker 1: Thank God, he's.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go kick a puppy just to balance things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go and be mean to your mom upstairs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. Good day to you, sir.
Speaker 2: Good day to you as well.
Speaker 1: So that was episode three hundred and sixteen. Head over
Speaker 1: to the Patreon at patreon dot com forwards last Brett
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