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Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck begins. Everyone, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here with us. We wanted to tell you

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Speaker 1: some exciting news before we dive into our next topic,

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Speaker 1: which will be a little bit of a commentary from

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Speaker 1: the view we want to get into coming up here.

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Speaker 1: And also RFK Junior and I agree on something else.

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Speaker 1: Very happy to hear him say it. That's coming up

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First up, though, starting Monday, the tenth

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Speaker 1: of July, we are gonna be Clay and Buck this show.

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Speaker 1: It's right, We're gonna be carried in DC on Freedom

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Speaker 1: one oh four point seven. We are so excited to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big market, big addition, so if you

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Speaker 2: are in northern Virginia, if you are in southern Maryland, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you know because you live there. One of the worst

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Speaker 2: traffic cities in America. And for anybody who has to commute,

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Speaker 2: I know you probably if you're in the DC area,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be awesome. So go ahead and add

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Speaker 2: us to the dials if you are in that marketplace.

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Speaker 2: And we got a lot of new market editions that

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Speaker 2: we're going to be rolling out in the days and

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Speaker 2: weeks and months ahead. We talked about I think that

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Speaker 2: Monday of this week Green Bay, Wisconsin and UH in

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Speaker 2: South Dakota.

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Speaker 1: Was it Peer South Dakota.

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Speaker 2: I think it was that we had added and UH

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Speaker 2: and certainly a bunch more coming. That's a credit to

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Speaker 2: you guys. The growth of the show as we now

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Speaker 2: embark on this third year, Super Falls is that what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about, Sue Falls, My bad, I hope we're

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Speaker 2: on in Peer, South Dakota, or it's where.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather was allegedly born. I've never this is like

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Speaker 1: family lore. You know, it's tough to sometimes track this

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Speaker 2: So I got to be careful here because this is

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Speaker 2: where I always I've had a ongoing inability to distinguish

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Speaker 2: between North and South Dakota. And I know right now

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Speaker 2: in the Dakota's people are losing their minds. But yes,

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Speaker 2: Peer South Dakota. Do you know I always had pronounced

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Speaker 2: it Pierre. Did you know that buck it's pronounced Peer? Well,

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Speaker 2: why not just say yes? Because you know I'm on

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Speaker 1: I know I did not know I had.

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Speaker 2: I had South Dakota furious because I was like when

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Speaker 2: and what I thought was Pierre South Dakota. I was

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Speaker 2: the good people of Peer South Dakota let me know.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I remember I state capitals back

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Speaker 1: Even regionally, you know, for out in Long Island. There

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Speaker 1: One that I know is absolutely the case the variations.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I had mentioned the view, and we were talking with

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Speaker 1: Behar could practically sit on the Supreme Court herself. But

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Speaker 1: Ah. Now, this is very interesting because you've been hearing

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a binary choice. You can either be the

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Speaker 2: But you can be white, or you can be the

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Speaker 2: anyone who's saying, from a pure advantage perspective, being a

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Speaker 2: That's what Sonny's really arguing. And if she were on

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Speaker 2: People like Sonny Houstin get to talk to an audience

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Speaker 2: So wait, you're telling me that a poor white kid

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example from my own life. Buck,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Harlan County, Kentucky. All of the Travis family.

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Speaker 2: My grandfather, who I was named after, had an eighth

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Speaker 2: the DuPont factory in Old Hickory, Tennessee. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that he had a massive amount of white privilege. That's

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Speaker 2: not even speaking today, Buck, that's speaking one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen oh five. He his dad

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident that there wasn't a deal of white

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Speaker 1: So tell me about the focus on criminal justice from

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Speaker 1: involved in January sixth, But they're also using the legal

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Speaker 1: and legal system and legal circles, if you will, professionally

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Speaker 1: to punish lawyers who were taking up the Trump side

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Speaker 1: of things in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: That's right, It's what California Buyer Association is also attempting

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Speaker 4: to do with John Eastman, who of course prepared the

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Speaker 4: memo suggesting that Mike Tents could halt the certification of

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Speaker 4: the Electoral College talent on January sixth. So they are

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Speaker 4: also there's actually a well funded organization who are targeting

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Speaker 4: any of the lawyers. Of course, we've seen them target

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Speaker 4: Sidney Powell, Jenna Alis, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, any of

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Speaker 4: the attorneys who were lawfully performing their job as counsel

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Speaker 4: to the president and filing lawsuits to uncover a election

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Speaker 4: fraud in these swing states. So that's just one part

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Speaker 4: of the I mean, just this egregious and very well funded,

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Speaker 4: well coordinated apparatus to punish anyone, whether it's Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: his attorneys, or a voter of his who walked into

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Speaker 4: a public building on a Wednesday afternoon took selfie's in

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Speaker 4: the Rotunda and left ten minutes later. This is set.

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Speaker 4: And of course this will is not anywhere close to concluding.

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Speaker 4: And Buck, as you know we've talked about numerous times,

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Speaker 4: will reach its apex when Special Consul Jack Smith indicts

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, probably some of his attorneys, possibly some White

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Speaker 4: House aids, and even maybe a few Republican Congressmen for

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Speaker 4: the events of January.

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Speaker 1: Six That's exactly what I was going to ask you.

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Speaker 1: So that's I was going to say. We know you

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Speaker 1: believe that they're going to the Special Council is going

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Speaker 1: to have a January sixth related charge against Donald Trump's rely,

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Speaker 1: But now you're telling me that it may it may

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Speaker 1: be a whole really Trump inner circle prosecution bonanza of sorts.

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Speaker 1: I just how does that play out? Because they're also

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Speaker 1: making it harder for all these individuals to get lawyers

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Speaker 1: to defend them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, look at well Nawta, who is the so

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Speaker 4: called vallet. He really struggled to sign a local Florida attorney.

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Speaker 4: Of course, since it's being prosecuted in southern Florida, he

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Speaker 4: has an attorney, Stanley Woodward, who's defended other January sixth defendants,

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Speaker 4: but he also needed a Florida lawyer and finally got

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Speaker 4: someone to sign on this week. But look, Buck, it

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Speaker 4: has to be more people than Donald Trump for the

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Speaker 4: criminal indictment of January sixth, because I believe that they

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Speaker 4: will charge him with at least one conspiracy charge, which

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Speaker 4: is also what they did in the classified documents case.

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Speaker 4: They brought conspiracy to obstruct and that's how they roped

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Speaker 4: in this core nauta. So they're going to have to

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Speaker 4: have co conspirators conspirators with Donald Trump for January six

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Speaker 4: and it very well could be people like Rudy Juliani

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Speaker 4: or John Eastman. You know, it could be White House aids.

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Speaker 4: There's been rumblings about what Mark Meadows has been up

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Speaker 4: to the chief of staff, if he's cooperating in some

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Speaker 4: capacity or he will be charged. You had representatives Scott

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Speaker 4: Perry from Pennsylvania who the FBI snatched his cell phone

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Speaker 4: right out of his hand the day after the mar

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Speaker 4: Lago raid, took an imprint of the data from his

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Speaker 4: this could be even there could be even more major

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Speaker 4: than just another criminal indictment of Donald Trump, but it

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Speaker 4: could involve half a dozen up to a dozen people.

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Speaker 1: or any crazy stuff that's going on out there. And

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Speaker 1: this is reported on by the Daily Mail. So this guy,

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Speaker 1: Sean Warner, is a first time fantasy author. He's written

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Speaker 1: his debut fantasy Novelist guy was in Arlington, Texas for

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Speaker 1: this video. I'm trying to find the name of the

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Speaker 1: book here so I could say it. But he was

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Speaker 1: sitting there and waited, do we have it? And we

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Speaker 1: see Lee Howard and the ghost of what is it

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Speaker 1: called Lee Howard and the Ghost of Simmons Pierce Manner. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's this guy's debut fantasy novel. I have not read it.

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Speaker 1: You do not know if it is any good. But this

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Speaker 1: is a nice story, I thought. So, this guy is

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Speaker 1: sitting there doing a book signing at a little store

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Speaker 1: in Arlington, Texas, and a TikTok creator and YouTube creator,

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Speaker 1: and some of these TikTok and YouTube creators have millions

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Speaker 1: and millions and millions of fans, took a video of

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Speaker 1: this guy because he was doing his book signing and

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Speaker 1: it was empty. There was no one there asking for

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Speaker 1: his book to be signed or buying his book. So

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Speaker 1: he's sitting at a table at a bookstore alone with

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Speaker 1: his debut fantasy novel that no one is coming by

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Speaker 1: to sign or to see. Well, apparently this TikTok star

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Speaker 1: read shared this clip of Sean Warner fifty eight years old,

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Speaker 1: who seemed like a very nice guy, very enthusiastic about

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Speaker 1: his first, first ever fantasy genre novel. Put it on

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Speaker 1: and now it has been viewed. What was what did

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Speaker 1: I see here? Fifteen million times? Something like that? And

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Speaker 1: with that fifteen seventeen point four million times. Actually, with

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Speaker 1: that seventeen point four million views, first time author Sean

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Speaker 1: Warner and his Lee Howard and the Ghost of Simmons

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Speaker 1: Pierce Manner now has a little bestseller on his hands,

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Speaker 1: because so many people went and bought his book because

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Speaker 1: they felt for the guy. You know, he's at first

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Speaker 1: time author, he's almost sixty years old. He's put his

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Speaker 1: hard and his soul into this, and he's sitting there

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Speaker 1: alone and seemed like a nice guy, and so they

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Speaker 1: bought his books. I just thought that was a very

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Speaker 1: nice story. I have to say. I also think back

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Speaker 1: to the days. Man, I like fantasy genre novels. Generally,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have the time to read

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Speaker 1: them because I'm reading so many other things these days.

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Speaker 1: I'm working on a book. You know, Clay's got a

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Speaker 1: book coming out next month. I'll have a book that

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Speaker 1: will be coming out next summer, and I'm hard at

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Speaker 1: work on that book all the time, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it is reading about twenty five twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: other books in research for the book that I'm writing,

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Speaker 1: because I'm spending a lot of time writing it too,

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Speaker 1: So that means that I don't get to dive into things.

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Speaker 1: But man, I think if you can't, I think fantasy

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Speaker 1: is important. I think that fiction fantasy same basic thing.

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Speaker 1: It's important for your mind. And I think back to

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Speaker 1: some of my favorite fiction slash at fantasy novel. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Dune is an amazing I would say amazing literary work,

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Speaker 1: and the recent movie was actually pretty good too. I

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Speaker 1: know the second part of it's coming out soon. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: The Lord of the Rings is one of the most

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Speaker 1: important for a lot of us in my and other

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Speaker 1: generations too, literary works, I think in terms of just

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Speaker 1: getting you excited about reading as a kid. But I

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Speaker 1: really do think that making the time, even for those

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Speaker 1: of us who feel like there's never enough time to

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Speaker 1: because there's always so much more to learn, I would

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Speaker 1: just say it's worth it to spend some time to

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Speaker 1: get into reading some things that are just meant to

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Speaker 1: terms of the creativity and the storyline. So anyway, I

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Speaker 1: wish I don't know what his book is like, but

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Speaker 1: I wish wish mister Sean Warner all the best of

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Speaker 1: luck with his first debut novel out there, and it's

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Speaker 1: a nonfiction, you have a better shot as a first

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Speaker 1: time author of selling some copies, no matter who you are,

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Speaker 1: whether you're in the media or just if we call

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Speaker 1: him a civilian. But you know, a person has a

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Speaker 1: normal day job, you have better chance of selling nonfiction.

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Speaker 1: Selling fiction is really hard, is really hard. I started

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Speaker 1: recently the Darkness That Comes Before I think it is,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of an older one, and man, it

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Speaker 1: a Oh man, it's so good. It's like a Viking

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Speaker 1: fantasy genre. Not I read this one pretty recently. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we have a book recommendation page, so where people should

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Speaker 1: go to Clayandbuck dot com. Where do they go? Do

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Speaker 1: they go to clayanbuck dot com? Slash Books team? Where

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Speaker 1: do they go to get to the book recommended? Every

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Speaker 1: book that we're telling You know, Carrie started reading Shadow

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Speaker 1: Divers recently. She loves it. So if I tell you

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Speaker 1: recognize it at least for being really good. There's there's

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the name. Oh yes, Shadow of

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Speaker 1: the Gods by John Gwynn. I think I read this.

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Speaker 1: I read it during the pandemic, actually, when I was

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Speaker 1: locked down in New York City man. That was a

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Speaker 1: uh if you like that Viking stuff. Now, it's not

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Speaker 1: historical fiction. It's fantasy Viking genre, which is getting my

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Speaker 1: sounding too much like a nerd here is getting down

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Speaker 1: into it. It was really well written, really good stuff. Guys.

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Speaker 1: He does Viking reenactments. I mean he's really into it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's very talented. Clayandbuck dot com and then

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Speaker 1: That's the way to do it. We've got some great

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that are signing up playanbuck dot

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Speaker 1: to buy the Sean warnerd, but go for it. I

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Speaker 1: put a smile on the guy's face. First time author.

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Speaker 1: He's selling thousands of books now. But if you're into

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Speaker 1: Viking fantasy genre. Shadow with the Gods by John Gwynn.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll really enjoy that one, and if you haven't, Randoon,

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Speaker 1: that's a good place to start with anything fantasy. John Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.