1 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast. I 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: am your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. Is time to take an 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: early look at the Week eight NFL lines. To do 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: that with me is our old friend Matt Parral, you 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: know most of the Daily Juice podcast. Find him on 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. Matt, thanks for popping on 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: with me today. How is your Sunday for the NFL? 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Eh? 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: It was okay. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: It ended with me losing a teaser on Monday night 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: by half a point. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Sough, just kind of how things go. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: I bet the same game teaser a little about half 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: an hour earlier. I would have gotten forty two and 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: not forty one and a half, and the game fell 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: forty eight, so I had forty seven and a half, 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: so that was kind of a bummer. I had the 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: Cults post nine and a half, so not the way 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: that I wanted to end the week. Decent week on 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: the Props, and you know, the Chiefs really were the 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: only game I completely whiffed on. 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll take that one bet. Yeah, that's it. 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: That is that was something there. I still to mean 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: right side, wrong side doesn't really matter, but I still 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: think the under was very clearly the right side on 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: that cold San Francisco game. I mean that the pass 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: interference calls were just like NonStop and driving them down 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: the field and everything like that. But is what it is. 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Let's rebound here, but let's take an early look and 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: again some news. As we say, we were recording this 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon, news just broke about Devonte Adams, which 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: will obviously impact probably the spread I assume, and how 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: we feel about the Thursday night game. But before we do, 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: I remind you about two things. First, as you guys know, 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: this podcast is brought to you by bet MGM. 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That 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: is right now. The Cardinals laying four and a half 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: points at home, and the total is it's fine. I 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: totally miss up and stuff on the toll Give me 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: a second. It is fifty two and a half. What 65 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: do you think right now? Does the atoms injury do 66 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: anything for you? 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Well, number opened up at three and a half, it's 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: already moved to four and a half. So telling you 69 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: what the Adams news is is worth the point, which 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: is pretty if you look at what wide receiver. 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: You know that was before Adams less unless they knew 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: that the line will move was before Adams, just so 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: you know. 74 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So, but it was open at three and a 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: half and the movement to four and a half. So 76 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: the first move and the number open, the first move 77 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: was towards the Cardinals. So I guess with the Adams news, 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: has anyone taken it off the board? 79 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: Is it still on the board. 80 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I'll take a look right now, but last I checked 81 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: it was still on. 82 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: But so yeah, I would say the money for the 83 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Cardinals is going to come pouring in here without Adams 84 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: because talking about the number one security blanket, number one 85 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver in the NFL, and really the guy who 86 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: moves the offense for the Green Bay Packers up against. 87 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: The defense for the Cardinals has been surprisingly good this season, 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: and I mean the number one point differential offensive defense 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: right now for the Cardinals and the Cardinals have given 90 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: up forty points fewer than anybody else in their division 91 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: right now, So that defense has been very good and 92 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be a test anyway for the Packers 93 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: to score on the road. Although Aaron Rodgers's numbers in 94 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: primetime are quite impressive. He's ten and five straight up, 95 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: ten four and one against the number playing on Thursday 96 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Night football. But I think without his star wide receiver, 97 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: I think right now, this four and a half point number, 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: I would jump on it before it gets to be 99 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: any higher. 100 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: I think at the right side to. 101 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Six six now and the total has dropped two fifty 102 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: and a half. 103 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Geez, well there you go, And well I'll say this. 104 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: I would wait then, yes, and I would let this 105 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: thing climb and see how you can get over seven 106 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: and then take the Packers. 107 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly right. That is the play, exactly what 108 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking, Matt. And it's going to continue to climb, 109 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure, because this is just an immediate, just reaction. 110 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Interesting that they didn't take it off the board even 111 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: to think about it, that they just moved it right 112 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: here to four and a half, from four and a 113 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: half to six. So yeah, I think this is going 114 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: to continue to climb here, and it's going to be 115 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: really interesting to see what we're going to see. But 116 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I do think eventually that this probably gets to touchdown, 117 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: is my guess, just because the money is gonna come 118 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: pouring in so much once it gets passed there. Yeah, 119 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I will take a bite here on the Packers for sure, 120 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: because it is still Aaron Rodgers, still a team of 121 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the decent defense, and the Cardinals at some point Matt 122 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: at some point are due for a letdown. 123 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: Well, but look, they just had it against Texans. 124 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean the first half they were asleep, Sure they 125 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: had they had to wake up, and they were thankfully 126 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: playing Davis Mills, who couldn't do anything for that offense. 127 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: Otherwise I think they would have lost that game yep 128 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 129 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean they are. 130 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: They're trending like a team that needs a loss to 131 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: kind of wake them up and shake them up a 132 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: little bit. So they're not running the table. They're not 133 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: going seventeen to o. No, they're gonna they're gonna have 134 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: four to five losses at the end of the year. 135 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: And it's very possible the Packers win the game outright and. 136 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: They were a missed field goal away from losing to 137 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the Viking, so let us not forget any of that 138 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: as well. Earlier in the year, Dolphins are visiting the Bills. 139 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: The Bills are thirteen and a half point favorites with 140 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: a total of forty eight. 141 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: What do you think, Look, this is a really interesting 142 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: week because of the This is the week that de 143 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Shaun Watson has to be traded by Tuesday. So Tua 144 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: made the said today he was asked about the trade rumors, 145 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: he said, I do hear it, but I tend to 146 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: try to ignore it. So he clearly understands his jobs 147 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: on the line. He played pathetically really bad over the weekend, 148 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: and I think Tua is probably not going to be 149 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: a starting quarterback in the league next year. 150 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: The Texans don't. 151 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Even want him back in a return trade, so it's 152 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: not like, oh, you go to the Texans, at least 153 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: you're a starter in the league. Still is only thirty 154 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: two jobs. He's not going to be a starter next year, 155 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: and I think he knows he's not going to be 156 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: a starter next year. I'd be real careful of this 157 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: Dolphins defense because I think the Bills are going to 158 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: torch him. I wouldn't lay thirteen and a half points, 159 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: but if I had to pick it, I would take 160 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Buffalo Oversuore. 161 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: I think I might like the over. I don't know 162 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: about you, because I think Buffalo is going to put 163 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: up a ton of points here. And look, the thing 164 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: about Tua is, I'm we can talk about your proclamation 165 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: that two is not going to be a starting quarterback 166 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL going forward, which may or may not 167 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: be true. 168 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: But they love the Dolphins. 169 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: What do you have jump in? 170 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it on Sunday. You were on 171 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: You're on the Dolph on Sunday, and you like to 172 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: it now? And what is the deal with you and 173 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. 174 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: First of all, we were correct on the teaser. You 175 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: know that plus eight and a half and I had 176 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: them at plus two and a half, which they covered, 177 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: which is fine. It's nothing. It's just the fact that, 178 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: as you know, I do fantasy projections, and Tua for 179 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: their offense is much better than admittedly Jacoby Brissett, which 180 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: is fine. I'm not saying I'm dying to have two 181 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, but perhaps when you grow up as 182 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: a Jets fan and you live your entire life there, 183 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: you are sort of what you allow more passes for 184 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: a guy who is adequate. He made some terrible decisions 185 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: in that game. But do I think that he couldn't 186 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: start for the Texans right now and he would be 187 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, a startable option. I mean, would 188 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: you rather have case Keenum or two a tongue of 189 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: my low there, Matt like, but it's a backup quarterback? Yes, 190 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: I know, but you have to have a backup quarterback 191 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: that you're willing to start over. 192 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: So fun too. I just told you Ta next year 193 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: is going to be a backup quarterback in the league, 194 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: which you were agreeing with. 195 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: You put them on the same category as case Keenum. 196 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: No, no, I was asking you if you would prefer 197 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Case you and I can. 198 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: We'll have Baker Mayfield. The Browns already have a starting quarterback. 199 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: They're not gonna go and have Tua over Baker. 200 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is you're putting 201 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: him in the class of like, how can he be 202 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback? And I'm saying, as of right now, 203 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: name me a backup quarterback that you would prefer over 204 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: to a tongue of I love in the league. I can't. 205 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: That's up the point though. 206 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: We're arguing whether there's a starting quarterback position that I 207 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: would want for Tua right now and. 208 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: When you start Davis Mills, or would you start. 209 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: To The Texans are already telling you that they're drafting 210 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: a quarterback next year. They don't want Tua, so that 211 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: job's off the board. So then what other job are 212 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: we seeing Tua getting to be a starting quarterback in 213 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: the league And there isn't one. No one's looking at 214 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: him and saying I want to it to be my starter. 215 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, as much as people would love to be 216 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: able to have us debate Tua for this entire podcast, 217 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: we can save that for our other podcast, Dan and 218 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Matt fight over nonsense things. But for this one, I 219 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: like the over forty eight night because I think the 220 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Bills are going to be able to score at will. 221 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: And again, my point with Tua is just like the 222 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins are at least a more competent offense uh with 223 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Tua than there with Jacoby Brissett. So it's not as 224 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: if they're going to be completely shut down by a 225 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Bills team that has a very good defense. But it's 226 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: not quite Matt. For me, this unit that is a 227 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: completely shut down. You can't move the ball against them, 228 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: just totally forget it. They're a good defense, I don't 229 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: think they're necessarily an elite defense. So I like the 230 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: forty eight. I would jump on that now. Actually, before 231 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: I get anywhere else, let's go on to the Titans 232 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: visiting the Colts. Matt, this really interesting one. It's a 233 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: divisional game Colts played well. Right now, I've got the 234 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Colts laying one on betting pros and the total of 235 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: forty nine. What do you think here? 236 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: Over? 237 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: These two teams play games where they score a ton 238 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: of points. In particular in Indianapolis. This is always one 239 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: of the games every year to look at. When the 240 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Titans play at the Colts, this game historically goes over. 241 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't play aside on this because I think I leaned. 242 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: I lean Indy, But Carson Wentz makes some really stupid 243 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: decisions a lot with football, and I'm really concerned about that. 244 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Titans I think will run all over Indy. I think 245 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: they'll score. I think Indianapolis will throw all over the Titans. 246 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: I like the over a lot here in this game. 247 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that yesterday with the Chiefs had anything 248 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: to do with the Titans sort of, you know, buckling 249 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: down a little bit defensively or is that all on 250 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs just being completely out of sorts offensively. 251 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: It's the offensive line for Kansas City that cannot protect 252 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and so the Titans secondary is still an 253 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: absolute train wreck. 254 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: It's a mess. 255 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: But they couldn't give any time to Mahomes to find 256 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: guys down the field because teams know that now after 257 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: watching what the Bucks did to Kansas City, they do 258 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: the same thing. They play zone and they rush and 259 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: they blitz and they try to pressure the quarterback and 260 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: they got home because an offensive line is absolutely awful 261 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: right now for Kansas City. So that's the recipe. I 262 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: don't think India's got the same problem. Indies offensive line, 263 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: it's very good, and I think they'll tick up any 264 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: type of blitz packages. They'll pick it up, and I 265 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: think they'll throw the ball deep. I think the receivers 266 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: are going to have a huge games for Indianapolis coming up. 267 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: I think Wentz is a big game throwing the football 268 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: against Titans. 269 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: And so I assume though with the spread, you don't 270 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: feel the need if you liked, which doesn't sound like 271 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: you do right now, you don't feel the need to 272 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: bet this now, right because it's at plus one. It's 273 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: not going to move past like three or anything either. 274 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: Way, I don't think so. 275 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Barring any injury news, I don't think so. I think 276 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: if you want to bet this game, you could wait 277 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: and make sure everyone's okay with COVID protocols and injuries 278 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I think this really is a coin 279 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: flip game between two teams that are are a little 280 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: bit more similar than what the records indicates. And I 281 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: think home field is significant here, but I do like 282 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: the I think we're seeing a lot of points here 283 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: in this game. I don't like either defense to stop 284 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: the offenses. 285 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that Indianapolis with Carson Wentz 286 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: fully healthy right now as he looks, has you know, 287 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: stupid decisions aside, really has started, you know, even without 288 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton in this last game between Taylor between Pittman, 289 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: they're really getting going here, and of course we know 290 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: about what the Titans can do offensively. Rams get a 291 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: second straight ginormous spread here traveling to Houston, laying fourteen 292 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and a half and a total of forty eight. Are 293 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: you willing to go to the well and back the 294 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Rams on the big spread again? 295 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because they didn't play well. 296 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: I guess the Lions and I think there's a lot 297 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: of anger there after what happened. I think the special 298 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: teams coach for the Rams probably had a really rough 299 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: Monday morning. And when you walk in and two faked 300 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: punts and one on side kick, that's still three possessions 301 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: for the Lions. 302 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: Not good from a Rams perspective. 303 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: I do expect them to go to Texas and take 304 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: the living daylights unless Tyrod Taylor plays practice right practicing. 305 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: If he plays, I would be a little bit more 306 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: hesitant to come in and go heavy on this, But 307 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half doesn't scare me. 308 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: Even when Tyrod Taylor, I would take the Rams. 309 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that the line will move if to 310 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Rod Tayler is named the starting quarterback here. 311 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: I think it's possible, but I don't know how. 312 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: I mean think the pros might move it down to 313 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: fourteen or thirteen and a half. You may get a 314 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: better number. I still think the Rams kill him even 315 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: when we're playing. I think the Rams gonna kill. 316 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Him fair enough let's get to the Panthers visiting the Falcons. 317 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: How far we have fallen into the Panthers, as you know, mapped. 318 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: I like the Panthers very much. Yesterday I had leaked 319 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: off on that game. The Falcons are now laying three 320 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: points total of forty six. 321 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: So many people screwed me on this. 322 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: You had it, I had it in both my circa teams. 323 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you didn't like it. 324 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: I hate it. Didn't like it, you absolutely hated it. 325 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Sam Donald going to New York, Everyone's like, well, Danny 326 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: Dimes stinks, Joe Judge is having to explain why he's 327 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: losing his team, and then like that win. The Panthers 328 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: are awful without Christian McCaffrey, awful without him. He is 329 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: their entire team and Matt Rule. Look, unless Deshaun Watson 330 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: weighs his no trade clause, that team's in big trouble 331 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: because they're hitching their wagon to Sam Donald. And Donald stinks, 332 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: all right, he flat out stinks. People need to stop 333 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: telling me that Donald's good. That Donald there's some underlying 334 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: thing that I'm not watching that I need to learn 335 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: more about him, or his quarterback abilities or whatever. Donald 336 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: stunk in New York. He stinks for Carolina. He throws picks, 337 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: he keeps on turning the football over. I mean, look, 338 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm on the Falcons over for over seven and a 339 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: half wins. So I like the Falcons. They are laying 340 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: three points at home against this Panthers team. Until McCaffrey 341 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: comes back. The Panthers are a fade, hard fade. 342 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't take the Falcons. I tell you that, 343 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: I can't take the Panthers. I tell you that, like, 344 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: there's no way that you can take them. After watching 345 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: what we saw in that game, and again they were 346 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: getting apps, he was getting pressured. They were you know, 347 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard couldn't find any running room against the Giants, right, 348 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: who get no pressure whatsoever. It was just insane. That 349 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: team looks in disarray. I'm very concerned about him. I 350 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about it yet, so I'm 351 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: not making a move on it. It's not a game 352 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: that I really want to go near, but it is something. 353 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Raress Man Kyle Pits back to back hundred yards receiving. Yeah, 354 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: I saw a PFF tweet on Monday morning. Kyle Pitts 355 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: has not dropped a ball thrown to him since twenty 356 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: nineteen at Florida. 357 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is a unicorn at the time. What's so funny, dude, 358 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: is that, like I, you know, if I'm switching around 359 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: the I got a bunch of different TVs going at once, 360 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at a bunch different games, Like I 361 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: don't realize it's Pits because he looks like a wide receiver, 362 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: like until I see the number. He looks like a 363 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but he's built like a tight end. Like 364 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: those guys. It's just incredible to watch and they are. 365 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: What's great is again it thought maybe like whether or not, 366 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: it's just that they need a little time under Arthur Smith. 367 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: And this is still when Calvin Ridley is not even 368 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: playing that well. Right He didn't look great yesterday even 369 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: though he got ten targets, he found the end zone. 370 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Didn't look great. But they're involving Cordero Patterson and he 371 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: looks great. Kyle Pits is incredible. Matt Ryan looks a 372 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: little more confident right now. Not a great team or 373 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. When you're going up against a team 374 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: like the Panthers right now, which you are correct, You know, 375 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: I was rooting for Sam Darnold. You know, even as 376 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I wanted him to be in the 377 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: situation where he could succeed. But man, this this looks 378 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: very familiar to me, Matt. As I look at so 379 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: not taking the Panthers, I'm not sure I'm willing to 380 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: go near the falcons, but it's close. This is an 381 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: interesting one to me, Matt. The forty nine ers are 382 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: visiting the Bears. The Bears are getting three and a 383 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: half pointints that total thirty nine and a half. What 384 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: do you think? 385 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: Look, the Niners have got a real big problem at quarterback, 386 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: and Kyle Shanahan doesn't do his team any favors when 387 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: he's asked about Jimmy Garoppolo being a starting quarterback, and 388 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: he's like. 389 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: I guess, so, I guess so. 390 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: Like it's I like Kyle Shanahan, but in the leadership category, 391 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: I think he's lacking and I think he really doesn't 392 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: understand how a team's going to respond to you, Like, 393 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: you need the team to buy into Jimmy G until 394 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: Lance is healthy to go again, and it doesn't sound 395 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: like he's coming back for this game. So you have 396 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy g. He's your starter, your year is not over. 397 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: You're two and four, the team that's in first place 398 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: is seven and oh, you are four games behind the 399 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals already in the division, and you're just acting nonchalant 400 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: and flip it about. You know, you have to win 401 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: with Jimmy g right now. But the Bears, on the 402 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: other hand, are coached by Matt Naggi, who just got 403 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: COVID so he could be out for this game. Out 404 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: that I don't know how big of a subtraction that's 405 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: going to be might be. 406 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Addition, by the way, right not even joking, Yeah. 407 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: It might be a plus to not have him out there, 408 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, justin Field scores three points yesterday on 409 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: the road against Tampa Bay. Buccaneers offense looked completely pathetic. 410 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: Defense equally looked pathetic. 411 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what to. 412 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Make of this game, to be quite honest, I want 413 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: no part of this game. I don't know which team 414 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: is gonna show up and be it. I mean, right now, 415 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: I would say that the Niners should probably win, but 416 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I mean, I'm not I mean running, 417 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, they're running attack should be traveling to Chicago, 418 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: But I don't know that's a tough game to call. 419 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am not scared off by the hook now. 420 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, there's one book that I'm seeing right now 421 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: that it's at three, the consensive Line three and a half. 422 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: The book that's at three, my book DraftKings. I feel 423 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: a lot better about that. And I realized, like, I 424 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: don't road favorites when they're kind of crappy teams like 425 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers are right now, not really where 426 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: I want to go, But holy cow, I can't remember 427 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: seeing a quarterback who is quite so overwhelmed right now, 428 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: or at least the way it looks in the NFL, 429 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: like justin Fields, And I don't want to make any 430 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: proclamation about his career. And know what, you know, maybe 431 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: this is just but the game. I was talking about 432 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: it on our fantasy podcast yesterday. The game looks too 433 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: fast firmed right now, and the forty nine ers still 434 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: have a solid defense they're going to get after the quarterback. 435 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: And again last night, I know they look terrible offensively, 436 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: but it was a monsoon out there, and I think 437 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: there can show a little more coming in here in 438 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: a game that they obviously have to win. So I 439 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: do like the forty nine ers right here. I don't 440 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: think you have to go after it right now, because 441 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: it's not it's not three and a half. It's I 442 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to climb much further than that certainly, 443 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: So I don't think you need to go after it. 444 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: The total thirty nine and a half is just ridiculous, 445 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: but I want no part of it whatsoever. You know 446 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: how often I backed the Eagles, Matt, It's probably time 447 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: for me to stop doing that. The Eagles are visiting 448 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: the Lions. Same thing here, Eagles as a road favorite 449 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: here laying three and a half total a little bit 450 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: higher forty seven and a half. What do you think? 451 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: So this is now you're finding out why my circa 452 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: team went in five this week because the both of them, Oh, Eagles, Panthers. 453 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: My partner was just adamant he I mean he was 454 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: in love with the Eagles. Huge bet on the Eagles. 455 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe they didn't even cover the teaser, man. 456 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: Like, just so that's what I did. 457 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: I tease them up to nine to nine, and I 458 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: thought that was gonna be safe. 459 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: And Jalen hurts again. 460 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: This is the league is filled up with mediocre coaches, 461 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: with mediocre quarterbacks right now. It's amazing Nick Sirianni and 462 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. You got Matt Naggy and Justin Fields. You 463 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: just go down the list of these guys who are 464 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: not I mean, Joe Judge and Danny Dimes. I mean, 465 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: it is remarkable how consistent we are right now with 466 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: mediocre coaches and mediocre quarterbacks. And Jalen Hurts is much 467 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: like I've been talking about with Donald in Tua. Jalen 468 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: Hurts is not a starting quarterback. He's just not a 469 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: starting quarterback in this league and he'll be a backup 470 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: next year. Eagles will replace him. Lions are zero and seven. 471 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: But the difference with this Lions team is that they're 472 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: fighting and if they play the way they played last 473 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: week against the Rams against the Eagles, they will beat 474 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: the Eagles. And they have to do that onside kicks, 475 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: fake punts, trick plays, misdirections, throw the kitchen sink at 476 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: the Eagles to get a win, because it's there for 477 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: you if you do what you're capable of doing. I 478 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: can't believe the Eagles allowed Derek Carr to go thirty 479 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: one of thirty four. 480 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: That is insanity. So maybe Jared Goff has a big game. 481 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: I am taking the Lions, and I'm taking them now 482 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: because I I yeah, if you're gonna give me the 483 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: hook right now, And this is from the guy who 484 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: loves the Eagles, I just I think the bottom line 485 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: is they play matty. We've known this about this, like 486 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: say what you want about Dan Campbell, and I thought 487 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: what he did was phenomenal. I thought the way they 488 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: came out of that game and they just said, we 489 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: know what we're up against right now, We're gonna have 490 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: some fun with it and see what we can do, 491 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: and we're probably gonna lose and fine, and it all 492 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: worked in the beginning. It was really cool. But they 493 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: fought till the very very they were in that game. 494 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: And you're gonna say that they're home right now against 495 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: an Eagles team that looks terrible, that's probably not gonna 496 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: have Miles Sanders, even if that is not a huge deal, 497 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: but that just looks in complete disarray, and you're gonna 498 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: give me the hook right now. There's a lot of 499 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: threes out there as well. I don't love it quite 500 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: as three, But if you're giving me the hook, I'm 501 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: doing it now because I don't want it to drop 502 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: to three, and I think it might. I think this 503 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: is strikes me, Matt as something where sharp betters, maybe 504 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, are going to come in on the lines 505 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: here and it's going to get down to three. So 506 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: I would take it now when it's three and a half. 507 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Let's get to the game that everybody wants to watch, 508 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals visiting the Jets. The Bengals are laying nine 509 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: and a half here and the total. Hold on, I 510 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: just had it up and I lost it somehow it's coming. 511 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I will give you the total a second, but give 512 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: me the spread here nine and a half for the Bengals. Oh, 513 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: I got it, and the total is forty three and 514 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: a half. 515 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, what am I missing? Why is it this? Fourteen? 516 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: Backup backup quarterback for the Jets? Okay, backup quarterback. You're 517 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: not gonna haveving Zach Wilson for two to four weeks 518 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: with the sprained MCL. You've got a a receiver in 519 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase who just broke the record for the most 520 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: receiving yards in his first seven weeks. Ever, yep, and 521 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: Burrow is ripping apart defenses like crazy and just carved 522 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: up the Ravens on the road. Now going to the Jets. 523 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: Why isn't this higher? I would DraftKings is at nine nine? 524 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Draft Kings as well? 525 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the Bengals minus nine? 526 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: So what about nine and a half? At where it 527 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: is at. 528 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: Nine and a half? Anything? Whow double digits? Give me 529 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: the Bengals. 530 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Do you worry though, man? I mean, you know the 531 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: industry as well as anybody else. Do you worry when, like, 532 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm in complete agreement with you what I mean, Mike White, 533 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: are really I mean, when you look at what happened 534 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: this weekend and what we're looking at going forward, you 535 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: see a line like this that screams at you, how 536 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: do I not push all my chips in on the Bengals? 537 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Does that wear you at all? Just because of it? 538 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: Well? Look, the Patriots were the same thing. 539 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Patriots were seven point favorites at home, and everyone was like, 540 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: here comes the trap, here comes to the hook. It 541 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: went to seven and a half, and the Pros hammered 542 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: the Jets. Patriots scored fifty three points on this team. 543 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Pete mac Jones scored fifty three points on 544 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: this team. 545 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: What is Burrow gonna do. What is Burrow gonna do? 546 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you want to say, if 547 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: you want to build a case for it, you could say, well, 548 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: it's obviously a quote unquote letdown spot for the Bengals 549 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and they could be looking ahead. Of course, they've got 550 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: the Browns a week after that divisional game. But still, realistically, 551 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you under and do it now. I would, 552 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: because it's gotta climb to ten. It's gotta climb to 553 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: ten without a question. So I'm gonna bet it now 554 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: as well. And again DraftKings nine a little bit better 555 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: for me. Steelers visiting the Browns here, Matt. The Browns 556 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: are laying three and a half points and the total 557 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: is forty two and a half. 558 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a stayaway game for me. 559 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean, these are the old black and blue divisional 560 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: type of games that could go any which way. In 561 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: the injury to Baker and whether or not he's playing, 562 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's gonna be dealing with that 563 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: pain for a long for the entire year, and he 564 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: can't run now. He's got a broken because he's he's 565 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: popped it out of the socket so many times that 566 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: he broke his shoulder the actual humorous broke that bone 567 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: because it's popping out so many times, which is like 568 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: the number one concern when I started, when it happened 569 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: to me, when it came out three times. That the 570 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: reason why they went in and did surgery finally with 571 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: me was because they're like, if you keep doing this, 572 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: you're gonna break You're it's gonna be a lot more 573 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: painful in a longer term surgery, longer term recovery because 574 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna break the bone because you just instantly. Yeah, 575 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: So like they're like, we have to go in and 576 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: fix this now, otherwise you could have some real big problems. 577 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: You're lucky that you haven't broken it yet. So it's like, okay, 578 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: so I got to go in and get it taken 579 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: care of. So I've had the same surgery, and you know, 580 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: it's it's extremely painful when that shoulder comes out. 581 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: It is unlike anything I've ever felt in. 582 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: My life because of the overall pulsing and throbbing and. 583 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Terrible. This is a terrible one minute of podcasting right now. 584 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: So it so hurts. It's it's awful. 585 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I get I can't believe Baker went 586 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: back into the game. I mean, it's unbelievable how much 587 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: he that kid is to go in there and with 588 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: that injury and get hit by three hundred and fifty 589 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: pounds men, I mean, nope, Noy'll thank you. 590 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: But on the other side, I mean, the Steelers. 591 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: Catching three and a half points is pretty attractive, but 592 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: I hate that Steeler offense. 593 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: So this is a no play for me. 594 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eileen, Steelers, to be honest, and if you like 595 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: it for me, I would do it now just in 596 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: case it gets to three, because I do think that 597 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: the Browns are going to be a little overvalued based 598 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: on what we saw with Denver, which I think was 599 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: a lot more about Denver and Nick Chubb's gonna return here. 600 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: But you got the Steelers off of Bye. You've got 601 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: them as underdogs, which I always much prefer them under Tomlin, 602 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: just as as a road underdog here, and they also 603 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: are starting to play a little bit better. Ben looks 604 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better, the offensive line looked a little 605 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: bit better, and I think the Browns here are a 606 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: little overvalued. So I personally would do the Steelers and 607 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I would take them now, But again it's not something 608 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna you know run in because these divisional games, 609 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: you know, you really never know how it's going to be, 610 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: regardless of the mayfield plays. Jaguars are visiting the Seahawks. Matt, 611 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: we don't know anything that happens tonight. Of course. With 612 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, we're recording this before they play here on 613 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Monday night against the Saints. But as of right now, 614 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: they are laying three and a half points to the 615 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars and the totals forty three and a half. 616 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean, what do you do 617 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: with this? 618 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: This? 619 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: To me, if Seattle plays poorly, this is a game 620 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: the Jaguars can win. And I just need to watch 621 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 2: and see the Seattle defense as to how they are 622 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: against the pass. I mean, the DJ Shark injury being 623 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: out for the year stinks for this offense. For the Jaguars, 624 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: They've already beaten the Dolphins, they had the bye last 625 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: week off of the trip to London, and so now 626 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: here they are preparing for a Seattle team that might 627 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: be two and five at home without Russ. 628 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 629 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: I think the three and a half points is what 630 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: I probably would take. But it's a tough it's a 631 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: tough game to bet. 632 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, if forced, I think three and a half. Like, 633 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: if you're giving me your money map, that's probably where 634 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: I would put it. But it's not something where I'm 635 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna risk my own I think no matter what the 636 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: spread is, I'm not gonna feel comfortable with it because again, 637 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: to get me to back RB and Mara, kudos to 638 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: you who backed them in London, crazy man that you were, 639 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: and that turned turned out correctly. What do you want? 640 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: You had a lot of good reads there out with that. 641 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I probably can doo. But again, 642 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: I want no part of Seattle with Gina Smith, so 643 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm probably staying away. Your team, Matt is going to 644 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles High. If a Giant win there. The Chargers 645 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: are laying five and a half coming off a bye, 646 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: the totals forty eight and a half. 647 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: Man, I gotta do a lot of research on this, okay, 648 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: because the initial read for most people is going to 649 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: be one let down two justin Herbert three road trip 650 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: to California. 651 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: Right. 652 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, the Patriots against the Chargers and 653 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: against I gotta go back and watch that game last 654 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: year because they should have won this game last year 655 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: at Los Angeles against the Chargers. This is one of 656 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: the games where there were mistakes made by Cam Newton 657 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: that cost the team. But they had a really good 658 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: game plan up against that Chargers defense and they were. 659 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: Right there to win the game. So I need to 660 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: do more. 661 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: My initial lean is Patriots catching five and a half, 662 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: but I need to go in do some real research 663 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: as to how this team's going to approach because they 664 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: did the dink and dunk last year with Cam, and 665 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: the red zone offense really bogged down. They couldn't get 666 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: Cam in the in the end zone as much as 667 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: they would have liked. This is a game where Herbert 668 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: might get fluxed, you know, flustered a little bit in 669 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: The Patriots might be able to throw a defense at 670 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: him that confuses him. You know, he's not a rookie, 671 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: but his second year player who's played pretty well this year. 672 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: The thing that really concerns me are the injuries and 673 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: the secondary for the Patriots. Right now, another dB went 674 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: down for the year today. That that's my one concern 675 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: up against this team. Austin Eckler might have a really 676 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: big game. It could be a big Austin Eckler game. 677 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Sounds like a prop we'll bet. Yeah, what about the 678 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: total forty eight and a half. I mean it strikes 679 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: me there's gonna be points in this game. 680 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: Matt, Yes, I agree, Okay, over, I would definitely say 681 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: the over in this game. I mean Mac Jones on 682 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: passes that are under ten yards is completing eighty percent 683 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: of his passes. 684 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 3: I mean it's just stupid. 685 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: I mean he's the dank and dunk king, and you 686 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: can do that against the Chargers. You can know they 687 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: don't want to have big plays and you can just 688 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: guy find guys and if jhald Smith, if that's gonna 689 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: be the general Smith that we see now for the 690 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: rest of the year. Okay, the Patriot offense finally has 691 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: a as a playmaker from that position. 692 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he I hope he's okay. 693 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: I know he left late with the shoulder indury. I 694 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen any update on that yet in terms of 695 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: the severity of it. But yeah, and again, if you 696 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: would wherever you are on the spread, I assume that 697 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: this strikes me as the five and a half, the 698 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: we don't really know what we're doing is basically where 699 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: we're ending up right, I don't I don't see this 700 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: climbing or dropping much either way. 701 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: I think news. 702 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: I think the potential for it to climb is there. 703 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: I think public money coming in on the Chargers, okay, 704 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: and I think there's a lot of love, especially out 705 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: west here in Vegas. I think there's gonna be Charger 706 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: money that will come in. So I think it could 707 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: close at six or six and a half. I don't 708 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: think it gets to seven, h but I think that's 709 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: why I'm not gonna bet it, because I'm gonna let 710 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait and see how high this number could 711 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: get to. If I get six and a half, it 712 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: would be awesome a bit. If you give me six 713 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: and a half, I'm on the Patriots. 714 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. Washington is visiting Denver, the Broncos 715 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: are laying three points. The total is, as always pretty low, 716 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: forty three and a half. What do you think? 717 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so betham dims at three and a half. I 718 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: would take Washington plus three and a half right now 719 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: if you can get it. Yes, And I think the 720 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: hook matters here. Look that this Broncos offense is not good. 721 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is not going to be the quarterback long term. 722 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: They're another team that's going to be in the running 723 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 2: for a quarterback coming up here very soon. And you know, 724 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: if it's not going to be Bridgewater and it's going 725 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: to go back to Drew Lock or whatever they're going 726 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: to do. They just don't have any playmakers really right now. 727 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Too many injuries with their receivers and kJ Hamler kind 728 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: of being the last one when he went down. It 729 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: really took out a lot of the starts from this offense. 730 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: And look at Bronco defense. We thought it was going 731 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: to be great. Hasn't been great. It's been black. 732 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Heinike. I like Tyler Heinekey a lot. 733 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: It's been fun to watch Tyler Heinekey run up and 734 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: down the field, and he was mobile. 735 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: Against the Packers. 736 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, they had two really bad fourth down stops 737 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: inside the ten yard line that decided that game. 738 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: I think Washington wins the game outright. 739 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeahbviously the Broncs are gonna get back. It sounds like 740 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy in this one, so that will certainly help them. 741 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: But they you know, Teddy Bridgewater is playing terribly and 742 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Washington still gets enough pressure. I think that, you know, 743 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: that's been the big thing with Bridgewater right now? Is 744 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: that you know, he seems to you know, be you know, 745 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: have happy feet there in the pocket. It's probably gaming 746 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: right There are a bunch of actually three and a 747 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: halfs out there. The majority of books are at three, 748 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: but there are three and a halfs out there right 749 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: now and at three and a half. Yeah, I love Washington. 750 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I get there at three. I think 751 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: i'd wait and hope that it gets theret three and 752 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: a half. But we'll have to see. The Bucks right 753 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: now are visiting the Saints again. Haven't seen the Saints 754 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: play tonight. Who knows what happens, but as of right now, 755 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks are laying four and a half in New 756 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Orleans with a total of fifty one. What do you 757 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: think over? 758 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: I think the over is probably in play here. I 759 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: think both teams are gonna score. I think the Bucks 760 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: are definitely gonna score. I like the Saints defense. I'm 761 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: on the Saints over nine and a half wins, So 762 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: tonight's an important game. I needed to win four and 763 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: two because I think they're gonna lose this games with 764 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, and they lost the division to the Saints 765 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: last year. 766 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: I think the this Bucks team has been really focused. 767 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: On winning the division this year because they didn't do 768 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: it last year, so there's some extra motivation there. And 769 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't like Jamis up against that buccaneer defense. That 770 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: scares me tremendously. So my initial read would be to 771 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: lay the four and a half, although there are some 772 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: fives that are popping up right now, so it looks 773 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: like the first move is to the Bucks. 774 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, BETMGM. You know, I know that's you know, our 775 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: sponsor here. Of course they are at five. The overall 776 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: is at four and a half. I don't love it, 777 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: but I probably would go with the Bucks if I 778 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: had to go one way or another, and I'd probably 779 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: do it sooner rather than later. This one, I'm confused 780 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: about a little bit, Matt, so hopefully you can walk 781 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: me through it. The Cowboys are visiting the Vikings on 782 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, so naturally televised game. The Cowboys are 783 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: anywhere between two at BETMGM, but consensus line of two 784 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: and a half and the total is fifty four and 785 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: a half. What do you think about this? 786 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: I've got to be get pressed here because the Vikings 787 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: are on my no bet list and I this is 788 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: a standard alone game in primetime, so we always for 789 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: the juice. We always like to have plays on it 790 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: because everyone's watching it, so we like to get involved. 791 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with this game. 792 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest here because the initial my first 793 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: read would be too if you buy points to buy 794 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: the two and a half to three and take the 795 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: Vikings as a three. 796 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: Point home dog. 797 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: But I am awful with Viking games, and I'm not 798 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: as high on the Cowboys as everybody else. 799 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't like I guess that's okay. 800 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: So I just I don't like their defense, and I 801 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: think everybody is just so in love with the Cowboys 802 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: because it's DAK and they're five and one. I don't 803 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: think they're very I think they're good. I just don't 804 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: think they think they're as good as everyone thinks that 805 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: they are. If I had to bet, I'll take the Vikings. 806 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's interesting because I when I saw it, I 807 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: would have expected this spread to be, especially given how 808 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: public the Cowboys usually are and how well they've been 809 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: playing and coming off now the bye, which I realized 810 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings are as well, that it would have been 811 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: three or you know, even three and a half, and 812 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, them wanting to get the public to take 813 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: the Vikings because this is the line I think that says, 814 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: even though they're on the road to take the Cowboys. 815 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: So I'm a little surprised by it. I agree the Vikings. 816 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: I feel like our team. And it's not just you, 817 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: It's not just me. It's probably the vast majority of 818 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: betters have no idea what to do with because at times, 819 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: right they come up and you know, they make their 820 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: showing and then you think like it's going to be 821 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: something good, and then they just aren't. There no idea 822 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: what to do with them. Kirk Cousins in primetime owas 823 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: a little nerve wracking. I still lean the Cowboys, Matt 824 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: if it's under field goal, like I, you know, because 825 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: I do have more faith. I agree their defense isn't 826 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: quite as good as people think it is. They are 827 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: just more opportunistic. They cause a lot of turnovers and 828 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's not going to go on forever. 829 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: And Kirk Cousins has played better, you know, excellent I 830 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: think for the most part this year. But still, man, 831 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. I will lean the Cowboys, 832 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to make my final proclamation about 833 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: it yet. Now a Monday night game here, the Giants 834 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: are visiting the Chiefs. The consensus spread here is and 835 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are laying ten. The total is fifty two. 836 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Apparently it's going to be fine. Clear concussion protocol. 837 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: That's good. The Giants have forty thousand injuries that we 838 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: were waiting to see about. So what do you think 839 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: you're at ten? 840 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: Why the Chiefs in Clemson they're both laying double digits 841 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: this weekend, and I cannot figure out why. I don't 842 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 2: care who the Chiefs are playing. Why are they laying 843 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: ten points? I know it's the Giants. 844 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: The Giants they're a mess. The Chiefs are an absolute mess. Yeah, 845 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: And I. 846 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: Mean, fine, maybe they go ahead and destroy the Giants, 847 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: but this screams teaser teaser teaser, like take this thing 848 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: down to four and take Kansas City because I don't 849 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: like this game at all. 850 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: But I don't think. I don't trust them to cover ten. 851 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: I just don't. 852 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's rare you trust the Chiefs to 853 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: cover just generally speaking, But I don't know. 854 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 3: Matt, it's a trap. 855 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I agree. Oh, I know, I know, I know. 856 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going near it. I'm not going near out 857 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: of curiosity, where does this Let's assume obviously everybody in 858 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs we know Mahomes is healthy. Let's assume the 859 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: giants are probably not getting back Saquon Barkley. That's my guess. Well, 860 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: let's assume they're getting back, Sterling Shepherd. They're getting back 861 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, a couple pieces or something here or there. 862 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Where do you think this line ends. 863 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: Up ten and a half, eleven and a half? 864 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: You think it goes up? Oh? 865 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, this line, this line's not going down. Okay, our 866 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: lines going like this line's going up. So then you wait, 867 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: you wait then for the giants. Yeah, and if you 868 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: want to tease it down, you do it now if 869 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: you want. I mean to me, it's it's more or less. 870 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: Getting it below seven is gonna be the most important thing. 871 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: So this number is not going. 872 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 3: It's not gonna go to thirteen. 873 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: Okay, stunned if it's good, if it goes if it's 874 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: that much movement, we get three points, so it goes 875 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: to thirteen. I don't think so. So all right, I 876 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 2: think eleven and a half. I think the line will 877 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: close under twelve. 878 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: All right, Matt. The Giants offense thinks the Chiefs scored 879 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: three points against the Titans, the total of fifty two 880 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: or fifty two and a half. Any thoughts on it whatsoever. 881 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: I would go under. But I'm not betting primetime unders. 882 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: Forget it. I want no part. 883 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: I want no part of prime time unders because of 884 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: what we talked about right at the top. Yeah, these 885 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: these referees are throwing flags on past interference. You breathe 886 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: on somebody in the flag's coming out in particular in 887 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 2: the red zone. 888 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: You know that's it. So just no. 889 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean the Colt's got three touchdowns on passing interference 890 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: calls last time. 891 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad beat, man, bad beat. It's all right, 892 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Matt. Thank you so much for 893 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: joining me. I was glad I wanted to have you 894 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: on here at least for one of these early ones. 895 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: We don't get a chance to talk as much as 896 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: we used to. 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During 915 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the week, everybody, We'll be back later 916 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: this week with the College Football Betting Podcast, and then 917 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: again on Thursday giving our best bets for the NFL Sunday. 918 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: I will talk to you then