1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: All right, let me start the list of Republicans that 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: are dead to me. At the top of the list, 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: there's a guy by the name of Mike Pence. Mike 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Pence is what I've always thought about him. He is 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: not a true conservative. He's a rhino. He's a mod 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: known as a moderate, a rhino if you don't know 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: what that means as a Republican in name only. I 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: said right after the indictment, I'm gonna stay it again. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Pay attention to which conservatives come out and vigorously defend 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And I'm talking about defending him from this, 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: this absurd indictment, which you would find in third world countries. 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: This is what the again the Gestapo used to do. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: This is literally what Hitler did was in his playbook, 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: take out your political enemies. Same thing that they did 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: in the USSR. Same thing that Ladder Raputin does, same 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: thing that g does in China, same thing they do 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: in Cuba with Castro. You take your political and it 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: means you put them in jail. Now some Bendela is 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: even a better example of this. If you don't know 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: that story, you need to learn that story. You need 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: to go back and read that part of history. I'm 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: sure if you don't want to read it, there's a 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: YouTube video that will tell you all about it. And 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: if that's not out, there's a movie about it. My 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: point is this is not what America is supposed to be. 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: And it's not hard to defend Donald Trump right now. 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: It should be the easiest thing even some of these 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: mods and some of these rhinos have ever done. It 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: should be easy to come out and say this is 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: crossing a line that we may never come back from. 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: This is crossing a line that we should all say 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: is wrong, that we should all say is evil, that 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: we should all say is something that should never happen. 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: So what is Mike Pennce saying about this? He's taken 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: shots on Neil Cavudo's show at Fox News Channel this afternoon. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: He decided the best use of his time going into 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: the weekend after this indictment is to attack his former 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: running mate Donald J. Trump. Take a listen you that said, 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I believe, sir, that you planned to support. However, that 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the ultimate Republican nominee is for President Donald Trump has 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: not indicated, but there are a couple of others who 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: are also open on that subject. Do you still stand 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: by that. And if you do, and assuming that Donald 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Trump could be your nominee and you do support him, 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the possibility that he wouldn't 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: return the favor. Let's say if it were you. Well, Neil, 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you my wife and I are sorting 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: through our sense of calling about whether or not we'll 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: enter the national race, and I'll express myself about other 50 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: candidates in the future, But I gotta tell you, when 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: it comes down to my former running mate, I honestly 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: believe that we'll have better choices by the fall of 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Look, I don't think anybody could have 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: defeated Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen other than Donald Trump. 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: But I think different times call for different leadership. As 56 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: I travel around the country, I hear people telling me 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: two things. Number one is, we've got to get back 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: to the policies of the Trump Pence administration. But until 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: that pandemic left America stronger, more prosperous than any time 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: in my lifetime. But in the same breath, Neil, people 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: tell me that they want to get back to a 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: level of civility and respect in our public debate that 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: used to that used to be the norm, just not 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: too long ago. I mean, you look at the major 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: challenges that we're facing after the failed policies of the 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Biden administration, the advances of the radical left. We got 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: to find a way to talk to one another in 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: politics the way the American people deal with each other 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: every single day. And so from my standpoint, I think 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: there's a desire for new leadership, a new direction and 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: uh and that also means a new Tolen in politics. 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: And if we can contribute to that, I promise you, 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: as I said, I'll keep you posted. All right, this 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: is the moment the Mint Romney has officially become dead. 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: To me. He's a moderate, He's a rhino. He is 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a part of the swamp. He is no different than 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan. He's no different than John Banner. He's no 78 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: different than Mint Romney at this point to think that 79 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: this is the right time to say this. And it's 80 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: obvious he's running for president, right he believes he can 81 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: somehow beat Donald Trump, which is total lunacy. It's it's hysterical. 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: It tells you just how ridiculous he is. And I'm 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: sure there's a bunch of mods around him. The Adam 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: kinsing or of the world. They're like, oh no, no no, 85 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: you're should do it, but we believe in you. Right 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: The Liz Chenness of the world are like, oh we should, 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: we believe in you, you should do that. Oh yes, 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: It's amazing. But the fact that this is what he 89 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: believes right now, this is what he is saying right now, 90 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: is one of the most shocking moments of betrayal, as 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: I would describe it from Mike Pence. And I'm glad 92 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: because this is gonna this is gonna weed out who 93 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the good guys are and who the bad guys are 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: in the conservative movement and the Republican Party. Mike Pence, 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: I will never forget this moment and I will never 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: trust him ever again as what he wants you to 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: believe that he's some sort of maga Republican. He is not. 98 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: If he was a magga Republican, he could have answered 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: that question a lot differently. And let me tell you 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: how he would have answered that question. He would have said, 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Today is not to day for me to talk about this. 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: What I know right now is there's an unjust indictment 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: of a former president United States of America, and this 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: is one of the saddest days in America. So one 105 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: of the worst days I've ever seen, and I've worked 106 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: in politics for a long time. He could have said that, Okay, 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: he could. He could have said that to Neil Cavuto, 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: and Neil could have even pressed him, because said, Neil, 109 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: you have to understand what just happened here. If there's 110 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: any day that I'm standing behind the President Knight States 111 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: of America, my former running mate, it's today. I'm not 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: worried about you know, twenty twenty four is a little 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: ways away. We can deal with that another day. But 114 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: today I stand with my former running mate because this 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: is just wrong. Mitt Romney, by the way, or I said, 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, by the way, was around. Let's never forget this. 117 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: For the impeachments. He was there when the impeachments were happening. 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: He was on Capitol Hill. He understands what they did 119 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: to General Flynn, he understands what they did to the 120 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Trump family. And for him to think that today's the 121 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: day be like, well, I think we're gonna have better 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: choices in twenty twenty four. I think we'll have better 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: choices than Trump in twenty twenty four different times, call 124 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: for different leaderships. That it is completely out of touch 125 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: with number one reality. But it shows that he has 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: no loyalty to the base. I'm not talking about Donald 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: Trump anymore. I'm talking about to the base. He was 128 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: happy to take that bait. 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Eight seven seven four. 162 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Gold Ira is falling all over themselves defending the Democrats, 163 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: defending this da Alan Bragg saying it's gonna be a 164 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: long bumpy road for Donald Trump. You better buckle up. 165 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play some of that for you in a moment, 166 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: just so you know how scumbaggy these people are. And 167 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: I want to also say, over and over again, because 168 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: I have to keep reminding myself, the Democratic Party died 169 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: when this indictment came down. The Democratic Party is no 170 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: longer the Democratic Party. This is the this is the 171 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: Socialist is the Communist Party. Communists do what the Democrats 172 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: are doing right now, So let's call them communists. This 173 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: is the Communist Party. They're not Democrats, they're communists. Bill Barr, 174 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: former Attorney General of the United States America, who hasn't 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: always agreed with Donald Trump on everything, was asked at 176 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: a conference earlier today, what does he think about this 177 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Trump indictment? Listen carefully to his words, impression. Given what 178 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: you've heard so far, well, I wish I had something 179 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: original to say about this. Almost all the adjectives have 180 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: been used. I mean, obviously, we have to caveat it. 181 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: We haven't seen it. We don't know exactly what's there, 182 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: but judging from the news reports, it's a it's you know, 183 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: it's the archetypal abuse of the prosecutorial function to engage 184 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: in a political hit job. And it's a disgrace if 185 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: if it turns out to be what we think it is. Politically, 186 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's going to be damaging, I 187 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: think to the Republican Party, simply because I think it's 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: it's a no lose situation. For the Democrats, I think 189 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: they're actually I think the the impetus is really to 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: help Trump get the nomination, focus the attention on him 191 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: for two years, have this thing swirling around, plus whatever 192 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: else comes, which I think will be damaging to whoever 193 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: gets the nomination. And legally I think it's it's uh, 194 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: from what I understand, it's it's a pathetically weak. Yeah, 195 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: it seems to be that there's two aspects of this 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: that are offensive, at least it seems this way to me. 197 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: One is the business record part, and they've made a 198 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: very strong push that they intend to litigate that to 199 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: the hilt and that he did not commit even the misdemeanor. 200 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: But it seems to me that whether he did or 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: whether he didn't, the first obligation of the prosecutor is 202 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to apply the law equally across the board to everyone. 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: And we're dealing with a progressive prosecutor who's made his name, 204 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: not prosecuting. So at the very time that he's taking 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: real felonies that are preying on New Yorkers and knocking 206 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: them down to misdemeanors if he prosecutes them at all, 207 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: he's taking this case that they would never in a 208 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: million years prosecute, and he's making it into a misdemeanor prosecution. 209 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: And then there's the second question about whether, especially with 210 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: the ural authorities who have jurisdiction of a campaign finance violations, 211 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: having looked at this and decided not to prosecute, he's 212 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: now not only going to add this to his case, 213 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: but use it to inflate the misdemeanor not into a felony. 214 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't justice to say inflated into 215 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: a felony according to Trump's counsel. And again, as you say, 216 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: until we see the indictment, we don't know it's going 217 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: to be thirty four felonies four year counts each. Well, 218 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: that's right. Taking the federal issue first, which is the 219 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: way he appears to defeat the statute of limitations on 220 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: a misdemeanor and juices up a technical misdemeanor into a felony. 221 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: As you say, the federal government. The Southern District of 222 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: New York did not charge this as a campaign violation. 223 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: And I saw some editorial said something like, well, that's 224 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: because Bill Barr was there. Actually the Southern District could 225 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: have done whatever they wanted. Well, I mean they would have. 226 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: I always heard that about the Well, but I want 227 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to point out that the administration ended two years ago, 228 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: so Bill Barr wasn't there two years ago, and if 229 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the statue of limitations had not run federally, they could 230 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: have done whatever they wanted to do after I left. 231 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: So no one's done anything. And so for the State 232 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: DA to try to use this as a way of 233 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: bootstrapping himself into a felony is sort of outrageous. But 234 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: as the other thing is, the statute itself isn't as 235 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: technical as it sounds. That is, it's not just falsification 236 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: of a record, but the statute says with the intent 237 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: to defraud. So the falsification of the record has to 238 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: have the intent to defraud. It's not enough to say, well, 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: the falsification is the fraud. There still has to be 240 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: some them of fraud. Someone who is uh some value 241 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: is somehow taken away from and benefited, uh, you know, 242 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the perpetrator, and I don't see an explanation for that anywhere. 243 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's it's a it's a very 244 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: weak case just on the misdemeanor, Bill Barr. It's a 245 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: very weak case, especially just on a misdemeanor and one 246 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: that has run out the statute of limitations. So therefore 247 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to turn into a felony. Now, I wanted 248 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: you to hear that because I think he's a brilliant 249 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: legal mind and I think that he understands this. Stormy Daniels, 250 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: by the way, has come out and said that this 251 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Trump indictment is a vindication, but then the same sentence says, 252 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: but I fear for my safety. I think story mean 253 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Daniels is exactly what she says she is, and I'm 254 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: going to leave it at that with her. Now, what 255 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I do know is Republican lawmakers reacting to this. A 256 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: lot of them have gotten it right, some have gotten 257 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: it wrong. Some have been way too quiet. Senator corn 258 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: remember the Senate GOP leadership said that the to CNN, 259 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: the Trump indictment looks to me to be like this 260 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: as an opportunity for this distric attorney to try to 261 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: make headlines and game publicity. Representative James Comers, to the 262 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: House Oversight Chairman, attacked the political witch hunt of former 263 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump the day after he was indicted by 264 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: the Manhattan DA. One thing that we're concerned about in Washington, 265 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Congressmen Jordan and myself is if there is coordination, Comber 266 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: says being conducted here between Merrick Garland, the DOJ and 267 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: all these different entities that are going after Donald Trump. 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: This the political witch hunt. They are doing everything in 269 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: their ability to create a narrative that would hurt Trump. 270 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Comber said to CNN that bragg investigation is nothing but 271 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: a political stunt. You need to look at these Republicans. 272 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: You need to look at your congressmen, you need to 273 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: look at these leaders, and you need to see what 274 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: they're saying, because if they're not standing up to this, 275 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: if they're not fighting against this, then you know which 276 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: team they are on. There's also going to be some 277 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: major security measures the Secret Service will implement, we're being 278 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: told for Tuesday's Trump Court hearing. The US Secret Service 279 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: has played a major role in the negotiations we're being 280 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: told between Trump lawyers and the Manhattan Disturt Attorney over 281 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump's Tuesday court appearance. Secret Service has limited 282 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: its involvement to courting security arrangements which have been in 283 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: the works for weeks. The agency is using its standard protocols, 284 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: which means Service employees will test the magnameters at the 285 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: courthouse to ensure they are up to Secret Service standards. 286 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: The plans which have already been worked out, including Secret 287 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Service employees at those melotech before Trump arrives. They won 288 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: forced distance requirements to make sure no one comes close 289 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: to former president. His detail will be with him as 290 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: he has processed, fingerprinted, and photographed for his protection. We're 291 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: also being told that he's expected to be arraigned in 292 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Manhattan Criminal Court around two fifteen Eastern one fifteenth Central 293 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Officials involved in the planning of Trump's appearance 294 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: are considering pausing all other case activity at the court 295 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: during the time that the former president is expected to appear. 296 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: According to sources with knowledge of the plans, an adjournment 297 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: of all other matters at the courthouse Tuesday afternoon would 298 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: reduce the amount of foot traffic in the building for 299 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: security reasons. The source went on to say the political 300 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: wet dream for the Democrats is one that's playing out 301 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: in real time on TV. Charlie Sykes on trump indictment, 302 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: had this to say moments ago on him. It's to 303 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: telling you and how long have they been saying the 304 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: psychotic stuff there? Right? He says, just the beginning. And 305 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Charlie again, because as Trump, there are so many patterns 306 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: that we can reflect back on. I mean, judges have 307 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: not been as daunted by Trump's political superpowers as Republican 308 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: senators and members of Congress have been by him, and 309 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: even some members of his own cabinet. I mean, I 310 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: think you had a federal judge the first to say 311 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump and Johnny has been likely committed balonies. 312 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Many of the judges looking at the one six cases 313 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: have said out loud in courtrooms and in filings that 314 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump continues to create a climate where the recidivism 315 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: is a high risk for the insurrectionist because he keeps 316 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: telling the lies that inside of them in the first place. 317 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's also a place that hasn't been as 318 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: cowed by Trump and Trumpism as the other branches of government. No, 319 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of his legal strategy seems to 320 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: have been aimed at deterrence, at intimidating the prosecutors and 321 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: the juries from from taking any action. And now he's 322 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: going to be waging this two front war, and they're 323 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: going to be intentioned with one another. You know, his 324 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: his his political his political appeal, which will be to 325 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: keep throwing red meat to gin up the base. It will, 326 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, is in conflict with the much more sober 327 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: and restricted message that he's going to have to have 328 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: and trow. It's going to be interesting to see how 329 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: he how he finesses that, particularly going forward. But I 330 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: will also say, you know, you made a point at 331 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of the program, this is just the beginning, 332 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: and it is just the beginning, and it's going to 333 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: be a long spring and a long summer with you know, 334 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: perhaps more indictments dropping. But I think that in terms 335 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: of politics, the die is cast, and that you've seen 336 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: that Republicans have decided that they are going to go 337 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: all in on Trump. And if they're all in on 338 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: this indictment, well they bought the ticket for the next 339 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: two as well. If there's an indictment out of Georgia, 340 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: they're going to have to say the same thing. Because 341 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: they've already bought in if there are indictments involving January first. 342 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: So this is what you know. There are things that 343 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what's in the seal 344 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: of indictment, but what we we do know is that the 345 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: Republican Party has decided that it is not going to 346 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: take an off ramp once again, that it is not 347 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: going to distance themselves, and that they are going to 348 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: now spend the next year and a half answering questions 349 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: about this man and about his conduct. And there's no 350 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: way now for them to step back and say, Okay, 351 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: this was terrible what happened in New York, but boy, 352 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: we need to keep our powder dry when it comes 353 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: to Jack Smith or when it comes to his attempt 354 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: to overturn the election in Georgia. They'rein and we know that, 355 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's been determined over the last thirty 356 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: six hours. So here's what they're saying. There's more coming 357 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: because the first indictment was going to be the hardest, 358 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: and now that we have the indictment, oh, it's game on, right, 359 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: it is game on. We're going to diet him everywhere 360 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: we can. The indicting of Trump, by the way, has 361 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: been a psychotic obsession of the left all the way 362 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen and eighteen and nineteen and twenty. 363 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Democrats have been predicting this and they were going to 364 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: make it happen. They just need to find an activist 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: da to do it. Since two thousand and seventeen, when 366 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was sworn as president on January the twentieth. 367 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: You don't believe me, We have a montage to remind 368 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: you of how much they've been willing to get this guy. 369 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: And this starts back in January of twenty seventeen. The 370 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: eight House Democrats have recently voted to advanced articles of 371 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: impeachment impeach him first and end indict him. Yes, the president, 372 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: a sitting president can be indicted. Even if the president 373 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: were to somehow find some way to terminate Mueller, the 374 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: indictments would continue to grind. You could impeach anybody on anything, 375 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: you can try and indict. He is not functioning as 376 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Frankly, if he ever 377 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: gets indicted. Hell, have insanity is a defense I suppose 378 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: from a criminal of charge, but it's hardly You know, 379 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: this is a serious matter. You're starting to hear people 380 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: talk about the possibility that Donald Trump leaves office in 381 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: two years and then finds himself in the crosshairs of 382 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: these New York prosecutors. This sitting president can and should 383 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: be indicted. President there for sure is more than likely 384 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: going to serve some jail time. It's clear that Trump 385 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: is the target and he'll be indicted eventually. On the 386 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him. 387 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Now there is talk of jail time for the president, 388 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: but Mueller could indict the president for obstruction of justice. 389 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump should be indicted for calling a cooperating witness 390 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: a rat. He should have been indicted. If a sitting 391 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: president can be indicted by the Justice Department, why aren't 392 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: we at the target? Trump having committed crimes to get 393 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: the presidency, So why aren't we at an indictment yet? 394 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: I think there's generally consensus the president has probably committed 395 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: indictable crimes. It's very strongly in favor of indicting the 396 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: president when he is out of office that there may 397 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: be enough evidence to indict Trump. Is Donald Trump going 398 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: to be indicted? Maybe it'll happen, Maybe he'll go to prison. 399 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, would you ever see the inside of a 400 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: prison Celle could get a ham sandwich indicted. Hey, listen, 401 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Trump's the big Macan. If Donald Trump himself is not 402 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: ever indicted, there is another way that prosecutors can actually 403 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: indict the entire Trump Org. We hope that Lieutenant General 404 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: seizes the importance of moving ahead with this indictment, moving 405 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: ahead with Locke and Steve Bannon, the whole inchilaud of 406 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the whole company indicted by next week. Why not pursue 407 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: it and see what happens. Marick Garland, if you indict Trump, 408 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: you'll be my Person of the Year of the decade. 409 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: The only thing worse than indicting him would be not 410 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: indicting him, would be fail not to indict them. Donald 411 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Trump is an ordinary citizen and is committing crimes right now. 412 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I like the idea of Martin Meadow's going to jail 413 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. But I still think 414 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: that the committee has laid out that the person on 415 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: top of all of this, in charge of all of this, 416 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: doing all of this, was Donald Trump. Now for him 417 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: not to frankly, would cause this country more harm than 418 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: even if he indicts and there's a hum jury or 419 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: not a successful conviction. I think there should be no 420 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: case in which they wouldn't indict. I don't think we 421 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: should be treating him the way other ex presidents were treated. 422 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I think the extent of what Donald Trump's done is 423 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: so egregious that no attorney general, no fair minded attorney general, 424 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: would have any choice. According to The Atlantic, Garland is 425 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: preparing to indite Trump despite moving at the cautious pace 426 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: of an institutionalist. The only reasons Trump hasn't been indicted 427 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: by now is because he's a former president and because 428 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: he has handpicked judges on his side. They were obsessed 429 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: with this since twenty seventeen. 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