1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama girl drama girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a rod in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl cheering for the drama queens girl fashion, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: but you'll tough go. You could sit with us girl 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: drama queens. N Queen's John mc queen's Drama John McQueen's 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Drama Queen's Welcome Back Friends is episode four oh six, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Season four, episode six, Where did You Sleep Last Night? 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: This aired originally November eight, two thousand six. That tracks 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: It does look like fall in roaming test um, Like 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: you can see that it's approaching, and we were probably 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: only like you know what, three weeks out from air 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: dates or whatever we're filming. Not the point the synopsis 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: of this episode, while we romance the fall season that 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: we're currently in. That's what. By the way, that's why 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: we have We probably all had such good hair in 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: this episode because humidity was down here. Truly, everyone's hair 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: did look so great and I didn't think about that part. 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: And you're a thousand person, like the humidity dropped below 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: seasonal success. We did well kids this week. Nathan and 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: Haley are worried about their financial situation, Nathan goes to 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: someone new for help, dun Dund, but continues her secret 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: relationship with her English teacher. Oh my god, we'll get 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: to that. Lucas comes back to play for the Ravens, 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: while Peyton continues to lean on him after the attack. Plus, 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: she finds strengthen herself after the help of her real 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: brother who is serving in the Marines. So nice to 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: see Ernest Wadal and you in this episode. How it was, guys, 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I have I have opinions about that boxing scene. What okay, 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: you go ahead ahead? No, no, no, it's solely in 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the episode. I feel like I do this every time, 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: where every time we watch an episode, I'm like, I 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: have a strong opinion about this, and then we get 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: out of chronological order and I don't know how to 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: get back. Okay, look, I get it. Those scenes are 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: super hard to shoot. We'll get to it when we 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: get to it. I understand as an actor why As 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: an actor you probably really hated doing that, But as 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: a viewer, I'm going to say I liked it. And 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: as a viewer, I really really really loved the opening 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: for you. It's such a stark surprise seeing you in 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: Peyton's room when everything is white, white, and and truly 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the thought I wrote it down because you know, Lucas 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: comes in sees it, You're very stoic, and you say 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe you can paint the shadows away? And Hillary, 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I swear to god, I wrote down. I said, how 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: did she deliver that line? Because I know you read 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: it and went business, who says this? And you did 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: it in a way that was so good and so 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: like layered, and and I could see how shaken you 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: were and that this was such a coping mechanism. And 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: I loved it. And that is such evidence of when 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: we got scripts that we went who says this? And 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: then you make it work? And I just want to 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: know where, where, where are all of the Emmy's girls. 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: Here's here's weird is it's like we just did this 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: huge episode of major, major, major trauma and the only 58 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: people interacting with Peyton are the boys, right, Like not 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: one girl goes to talk to her, like, oh baby, 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: you were just almost raped. That's weird. Like that brother 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: we met at that house party turned out to be 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: a total creep. No one to talk to her, which 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: is you can tell that like boys wrote this because 64 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: like we would be in each other's like you could 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: be my mortal enemy. We would have both crawled into 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: bed with you and see how left your house? And yeah, 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: but but boys are the heroes friends. Well, it's also 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: such elementary school politics, like and I know we've talked 69 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: about this a lot, but it's the way men think 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: women are. Like the fact that after this has happened 71 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: to Peyton, the only mention of you between the girls 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: is between Joy and I. It's Brooke and Haley getting 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: on the bus, and I'm like, don't tell her I 74 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: asked about her, Like that's that's like if if you, 75 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, like stole my prom dress or something, 76 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: which I will do, don't worry you. Sure, Well it's 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: a little foreshadowing for the fans little Easter Egg, but no, truly, 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's so insane that we are not just there, 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: like any fight, any upset, ceases to matter in the 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: face of something so seismically circumstantial. I mean, Brooke. The 81 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: comment that Brooke makes by the bus is something I 82 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: can't remember what it was, but it was something very flippant, 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: like oh, because you know some psycho like came after 84 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: her to It's like it's something about like one little 85 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: stalker and it's like, I'm sorry, she almost got raped 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: in murder. She's got scabs all over her face. Yeah yeah, 87 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: you like Luke didn't actually go tell both of them 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: exactly what happened and how awful it was. Also, where 89 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: is Larry? Did she not tell her dad what's going on? 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: She says that she won't call him, which also is 91 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: insane technical question, Like I work on a television show 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: that involves law enforcement now, and I don't feel like 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: sixteen year old get to make that choice. I feel 94 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: like law enforcement has to call the homeowner or has 95 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: to call the parent. And also is the parent in 96 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: trouble now because they've left an underage kid by themselves. 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: You're not a story like huge missed opportunity for a story. 98 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if Peyton is like if child Protective Services 99 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: is called because Peyton has been left alone for two 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: years as a minor, where's a grandparent? Where's an uncle? 101 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: Like literally where anyone? Where are the adult there? But 102 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: the where are the adults? But I do think again 103 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: it leans into this fantasy idea of you know, kids 104 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: wanting to go out on their own, and it leans 105 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: into what we clearly see butting in this episode so literally, 106 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: not not even just in these figurative ways that we've 107 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: been portrayed on screen, uh for the last couple of years, 108 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: but it's the adultification of teenagers. It's it's this notion 109 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: that you know, they're on their own and the quote 110 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: romantic idea is that they're finding their way. But the 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: gross thing is that they're being treated like grown ups 112 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and not being supported. And um, I don't care how 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: many times we have Brooke Davis repeat that she's eighteen. 114 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: I was just gonna says she should have button. Hi, 115 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: my name is Brooke, I'm a teen. So gross, and 116 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: it's like it will never make it okay. It will 117 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: never be okay that Larry's not there for Peyton, it 118 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: will never be okay that Brooks teacher is sleeping with 119 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: her like cognito, Like hell, she needs money and she 120 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: can't call her parents. That was so weird. I really, 121 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: I really a problem with that because the whole, the 122 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: whole thing about who Haley was in the beginning was 123 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: that she so badly want She saw Nathan as someone 124 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: who was independent, and she saw his reliance on Dan 125 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: as a weakness, and she was so encouraging of him 126 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: to do things on his own, to you know, get 127 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: away from his parents. She would never have respected that 128 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: that he would go to his dad for money, his 129 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: dad who has been so abusive in his life. And 130 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I remember when we got that script that I was 131 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: I think. What I remember is that I had a 132 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: lot going on in my personal life as usual, and 133 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: this day you you at the best skin and um. 134 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just remember really feeling gross about that 135 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: and like kind of pushing through it, and I remember 136 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: wanting to spend time arguing about it, but I just 137 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't have the energy and I was like, fine, whatever, 138 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I'll say it. And watching this now, I'm like, I 139 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: really wish I had pushed back on that a little 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: bit because it's just so out of character for her. 141 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: And there were so many other people to call, Like 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Hayley's parents were the nodull But what about Grandpa, Grandma? Yeah, 143 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: what about Whitey even, Yeah, why do you give me 144 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: some money? That would have been a great art that's right. Well, 145 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: what about Lucas and Um and Nathan teaming up to 146 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: do some kind of something to raise money? To like, 147 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there were just so many opportunities. I 148 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know why he went to 149 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: Dan Well, but the only reason he went to Dan 150 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: was to set up Rick Fox being like a loan shark. 151 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: But that's lazy writing. I agree, I fully agree. I'm 152 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: just saying you can you can see it. It's like 153 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: it so much of what we're seeing here is lazy writing. 154 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: It's like, let's get the muffia involved, let's get the girl, 155 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: let's get the girl banging her teacher in the classroom. 156 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Like it's all just so gross, and it's like it 157 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: just it truly does remind me like, oh man, anytime 158 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: you doubt yourself, just imagine you had the confidence of 159 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: a mediocre man, because, like truly, because the level of 160 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: mediocrity that we're seeing here, it's like you threw the 161 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: stone two inches and went that'll do. Like come on, 162 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: you know. This is something Rob Buckley said to me 163 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: once I was telling him. I was talking to him 164 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: about this guy that I was seeing, and I wasn't 165 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: your it to do? And I was like trying to explain, 166 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: like how do I you know what the whole situation was? Anyway, 167 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: he just at one point he just looked at me 168 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: and he was like, this guy's not making any effort. Joy. 169 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, but he did this, and he 170 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: did that, blah blah blah, and he was like, Joy, 171 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: that's showing up with shoes on. You're you're giving him 172 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: way too much credit. And it's I love that phrase 173 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: and I use it all the time now, Thanks Robert Buckley. 174 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: But that's what this episode was, showing up with shoes on. 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: It was. There were so many lazy writing moments. Yeah, 176 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: And and the thing is, I think it could have 177 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: been really cool, you know, to your point. If if 178 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: Nathan had leaned on Lucas and said, I'm really struggling, man, 179 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: here's what's going on, and the Ravens had organized something, 180 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't it have been cool to see Rick Fox like, okay, 181 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: let's go really cliche high school. Let's say they organized 182 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens basketball players do a car wash. Wouldn't it 183 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: be cool to see Rick Fox creep through there in 184 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: his fancy Cadillac. Notice he needs money. It wasn't that 185 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: fancy to my Cadillac. By the bye, I was like, 186 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: if we're trying to sell that this dude's like successful, 187 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Why is the English teacher driving a cooler car than 188 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: like so insane? So insane. I love this day dream though, 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what about or the cool Yeah, but all 190 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: those boys and that's what I'm saying, Like they could 191 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: have done something, and then the creepy guy could have 192 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: come in the mix and and and you know, even 193 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: asked somebody like what are we doing? And it's like, oh, well, 194 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, Nathan's got a baby on the way, We're 195 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: raising some money. Like it could have all seemed very 196 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: innocent and fun and and led to something sinister, but 197 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: instead we just put pedal to the metal on like 198 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: sinister stranger. Yeah, because then Dan could have offered to 199 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: give him money, and then Nathan could have chosen to 200 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: take it from Rick Fox instead of his dad. Like right, 201 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many interesting way I feel like 202 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: this episode, not this episode, but this kind of cluster 203 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: of episodes is really when one tree Hill started to 204 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: jump the shark. And and it was because when we 205 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: had the whole thing of like who killed Dan, and 206 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: people started making like references to Dallas and and who 207 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: shot Jr? Who shot j R? Yeah, it felt like 208 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: some of our bosses thought, oh man, we are going 209 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: to enter into a legacy of and so they wanted 210 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: those big, huge, weird storylines. I don't know any of 211 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: our fans that loved our show for those big, huge, 212 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: weird storylines. Everything that they bring up is like the 213 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: small intimate moments. Yeah. I just don't think they could 214 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: get away from the competition of OC and Gossip Girl 215 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: and how big those shows were in the industry. Because 216 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: One Tree Hill was super popular with our crowd, like 217 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: our grassroots crowd, which was a huge population, but it 218 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like the We weren't the show that was getting 219 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: all of the sort of Hollywood attention. And I think 220 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: there was an obsession with the competition, like trying to 221 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: put us on on the same level or something so strange. 222 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: It's also so weird to me because the the Hollywood attention, 223 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: to your point, joy like, that's all manufactured. That's that's 224 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: publicists doing their jobs, sending people to events we weren't in. 225 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: We weren't getting that level of Hollywood attention because we 226 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: weren't in Hollywood. We were in l A or New York. 227 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: What was that dorky club that everybody went to, Remember 228 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: that club that like everyone was seeing that. Oh like hide, 229 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Still there. I've never been like 230 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: you guys. We we couldn't wrap work and go to 231 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: some fancy event or a publicity dinner or a like. 232 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: We were just working and going home and like going 233 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: to the Copper Penny to have And I loved that, 234 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: but we weren't in the mix in that way. And 235 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: so it's just so odd to me that, you know, 236 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: it's like if they wanted it that badly, they could 237 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: have done with us. What they did was shameless, Like 238 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: we could have shot in l A at Warner Brothers 239 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and then done exteriors in Wilmington's for like six weeks 240 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: a year, but they didn't want to do that. And 241 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: so it's like pick one. You either want to be 242 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: the show that shoots in the town where your show 243 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: is set or or you want to like send your 244 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: kids to Rolling Stone parties. But you can't have both. 245 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: It's true. And and you, Sophia in particular, worked your 246 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: ass off maintain and build your career off of this 247 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: show by doing things like flying back and forth every 248 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: weekend to l A to make sure that you were 249 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: able to participate in the things that you wanted to 250 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: be there for, which got you more work, which brought 251 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, gave you an opportunity to have the platforms 252 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: that you have now. It's like there was this amazing 253 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: stepping stone that you saw, especially with your pr brain too, 254 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: because you went to school for journalism or for for journalism. 255 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but I gotta say it didn't feel 256 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: like that for me. Like I was hustling home as 257 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: often as I could for like meetings, I was going 258 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: home to audition a lot. I've I've never really been 259 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: a person who loves like sending it a tape. So 260 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: if there was something I really wanted to like fight for, 261 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, I would. I would fly, I would take 262 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: the meeting, I would do whatever. I would definitely make sure, 263 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: especially by this point, that like any event for the 264 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: charities I was working with, I would I would make 265 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: it home. But it's funny because to me it felt 266 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: so much like there was so much I wanted to 267 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: do that I just couldn't because we were in Welmington's 268 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't possible. And with work sometimes, like I remember, 269 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: there there are two movies that like still crush me 270 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: that that I like I was supposed to do, and 271 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: then because of our dates, because like we would do 272 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty four episodes instead of twenty two, I couldn't. And 273 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I watched people go do these projects and just be like, 274 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, I wanted that's so bad. But you 275 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: know it's like we tried. We tried to do anything 276 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: that we all couldn't. Certainly, by this point, I was 277 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: just like itching to do anything else the teachers or 278 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: like random part time models. Yeah, so weird that I 279 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: was looking for more fulfilling work. Then this really annoyed 280 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: me in this episode watching that, I was hated. Can 281 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: they not think of anything else else for Sophia to do? 282 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: You're so good? I don't understand why it was just 283 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: continually over and over. Oh here's a new boy, let's 284 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: throw him on Sophia. Can we come up with something else? 285 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: But they've also got your bitchy like season one too, 286 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: you're being punished in this episode. They were like, all 287 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: the stuff you've worked for for all these years, we're 288 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: back at square one. We shoot some laddered you all 289 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: the way back. You know what I will say, I 290 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: don't like obviously we've we've talked about this I don't 291 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: like the way that Brooke and Peyton are relating at 292 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: this point, but I get I get that they want 293 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: us separated so they can have the big reunion episode 294 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: at you know, prom or Winter Formal or whatever it is. 295 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: But I love like, even when Brooke is hysterical or 296 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: like stressed and gets really snappy, I love the comedy 297 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: of Brook and Rachel too, Like all of that is 298 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: so fun and rich and hilarious, and like us in 299 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: the bathroom killed me, Like I loved this, and I 300 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: just wish they had let us have more fun together 301 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: and that it didn't always have to be about a guy. 302 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: That's all we ever talked about, Brooke and Rachel boys 303 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: boys boys boys boys boys boys, and it's like we're 304 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: both too good for that. I like that you guys went. 305 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean I literally wrote in my notes Brooke and 306 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: Rachel besties with the whole mixtaper earrings thing, and then 307 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: literally like two seconds later, you skanked me into this, 308 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: like from like, oh my god, we're best friends. We've 309 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: earned it. Like this feels nice to You're dead to me, 310 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: it's so funny. It's so high school. That is so 311 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: high school with high school girls. Do um. Can we 312 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: talk for a second about Lucas cluelessness at the beginning 313 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: of this episode. Well, also the introduction of Chad's platinum 314 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: blonde hair. That's what I want to because at some 315 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: point between Derek almost raping and murdering his best friend 316 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: slash feature wife Um and this episode, he had time 317 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: to go up dye his hair plantum blood. What's going on, guys, 318 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm into it, Like, here's here's what my brain remembers. 319 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I yesterday had to do a sit down for a 320 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: documentary about TRL and about like the MTV of it 321 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: all and how it did tie into One Tree Hill, 322 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: like we were like the music stuff. You know, they 323 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: literally handed us the fan base we had on a 324 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: silver platter because the numbers were the exact same between 325 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: TRL and One Tree Hill, and and we had no 326 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: like EMO representation with the boys on the show. And 327 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: like Chad was like, give me that torch. I am 328 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: going to be the boy wearing eyeliner and with the 329 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: platinum blonde hair, and I am going to be your 330 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: EMO dream come true. And like for girls, he did it. 331 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: He should have had a bass guitar that he just 332 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: like slung around that would be. That's what I was 333 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, though, is like he's lee thing into that 334 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: level of emo in a way that I I almost 335 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: wish they'd let him take it a little farther. Like 336 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: in this episode, like he's wearing that I don't know 337 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: if it was like an ed Hardy shirt or whatever 338 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: that is, but it's got like a skull and like it, 339 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, let it, let 340 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: it go the two steps past, let it go to 341 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: actual rock and roll instead of the like middle party thing, 342 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: because like Chad committed to it, like his hair is 343 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: bleached out, he is, I don't know if it's eyeline 344 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: or eyeshot or whatever. He's wearing that like leans into 345 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: that very fallout boy like I make up it's but 346 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: it works on him, like and I don't I don't 347 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: know if he found it first, like doing the Jack 348 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Sparrow or whatever, but I don't know. There was something 349 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: I saw in this where I was like, wait, like 350 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: let him like let him go because he's deep down 351 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: what I was about. But that's what I was about 352 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: to say, like I almost wish all us wish they'd 353 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: let him like lean further into it with wardrobe and stuff, 354 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: because it is when you guys really begin this like 355 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: deep bond that sets you up, like when we get 356 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: to the end of this season and you have the 357 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: it's you moment, like I don't know, I love There's 358 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: something about it that reminds me of like when you 359 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: guys were trading records in season one and I'm like, oh, 360 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: I want more of that, Like don't you feel that? 361 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Like you can kind of sense it coming. It was 362 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: such a thing during this time period and for us 363 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: to not have any of the boy characters embodied like 364 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: that emo look in like the vibe and that like 365 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: let him be our Billy Idol come on. We were 366 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: coming off of Pearl Jam and Nirvana and even Dave 367 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Matthews band was kind of the new generation of that 368 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: that we were all into. But that was all very 369 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: emo stuff and the guys were kind of grungy and 370 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: we never we never had the pop music. It was 371 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: all pop punk, so it was like the Used and 372 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: then Canada gave us some forty one and we had 373 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: fall Out Boy and those were all like the kids 374 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: that would come on TRL and every damn one of 375 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: them was wearing guyliner. But I think but That's what 376 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying is like I wish they'd I wish they'd 377 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: let it go a little farther with him, and like 378 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: that wardrobe had leaned into it, because there's something kind 379 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: of cool again, the women see it. The guys, the 380 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: guys in the writer's room are not like doing enough. 381 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: But when you think about the fact that Peyton was 382 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: super into Pete Wentz, I love the idea that post 383 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Pete Wentz, Lucas decides he wants to be like a 384 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: little more emo, and like, yeah, I like that's what 385 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think it's so and like viby and 386 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm like, damn, I wish that they'd 387 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: been smart enough to like track it that way and 388 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: lean into a little more, because clearly he was game, 389 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: like he was enjoying it, so like let him live. 390 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: If Peyton's the goth girl on the cheerleading squad, having 391 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: a guy an eyeliner on the varsity basketball team is 392 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: not something that we've seen on television that was new. Um, 393 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: it's also really probably the most normal thing that happened 394 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: in this episode because having a preteen boy right now, 395 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: you know we're going to go We're gonna go to 396 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: a concert this weekend and see Mona skin those hot 397 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: little Italians And I was like, Gus, do you want 398 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: to wear eyeliner? And he's like, uh, yeah, of course 399 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: I know. And that level of experimentation in middle school 400 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: in high school is not something that we're seeing a 401 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: lot of with the boys on our show. And so 402 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: cheers to Chad for I think he's the one that 403 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: initiated it. I don't think anyone in the hair and 404 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: makeup trailer was like, hey, we should try this. I 405 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: think he definitely know he that was what he wanted. 406 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: And I just think like it would have been so 407 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: cool if, instead of kind of like fighting to rain 408 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: him in on it, our creative team had been like, 409 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: wait a second, this is going to be a vibe, 410 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: like like Lucas goes from being a very you know, 411 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: carbon copy southern boy who gets like a generic terrible 412 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: tattoo with Brooke to like finding his identity which is 413 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: more emo with Peyton, Like I love that. I love that. 414 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: I love that evolution. And I don't know he he 415 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: loved it, and so I just wish they'd like seen 416 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: it as an asset and let him run with it 417 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and leaned into it for the two of you, because 418 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: as the two of you are having this experience that 419 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: leads to the future of your characters. I just think 420 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: it would have been really cute if you'd started to 421 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: look more like like brother and sisters and matching haircut. 422 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time that you, like, like 423 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: tried something new at school, like that you you went 424 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: out there and you were like, oh, yeah, I'm going 425 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: to be different today. Oh. I literally thought you were 426 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna be Like do you remember the first time you 427 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: realized you were wearing the same outfit as your partner 428 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, Grant and I literally do 429 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: it all the time. We'll like, we'll like meet upstairs 430 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: to go to dinner, and I'll just be like, Osh, 431 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: one of us has to change. We're just wearing all 432 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: the same colors, and I'm like, oh my god, we 433 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: really are becoming the same person. But oh, high school. Yeah, 434 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: my first one was when I went to high school 435 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: and showed up in New Jersey from Texas and that 436 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: that combo did not fly. I had to get tough fast. 437 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: Is that when you started wearing your hoop earrings? That's 438 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: when I started doing the dark brown lip liner hoop earrings. 439 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: It was like the frosty brown lipstick but with dark 440 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: brown eye mac swirl. Oh, I remember you looked like Carrie. 441 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Like you showed pictures and I'm like, oh my god, 442 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: that's Mariah car Yeah, it's hot. So what did you do, Hilary? 443 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I very much wanted to fit in because 444 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I've been an ostracized kid, and so freshman year like 445 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: went to the mall and bought all the things that 446 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: Abercrombie had, and like freshman year was abercrombied out. And 447 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: then I started dating this like really bad boy, and 448 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: I didn't have like I didn't have to follow any 449 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: rules anymore. I could do whatever they wanted and nobody 450 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: could say anything to me. Uh, And so I started 451 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: dressing like a man, like I went to the thrift 452 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: store and bought like old man trousers and wear a 453 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: little teeny tiny shirts with like big old man pants, 454 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: and that feeling of just like oh that's yeah yeah, 455 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: but that feeling of like, oh, I don't have to 456 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: play by the rules and some people are going to 457 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: make fun of this, but like the hot people are 458 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: this is my uniform. Like you feel it you step 459 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, yeah, I remember there was one summer 460 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: at camp. I started going to camp when I was nine, 461 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: and you had a literal uniform that you had to 462 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: wear at school, right, Oh yeah, so like weekends were 463 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: our playground. But yeah, I mean I like, I bought 464 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: uniform skirts in seventh grade and never bought new ones. 465 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: So in seventh grade they were like oversized, like school girl, 466 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: like to the knees. And by my senior year, I 467 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: looked like a cheerleader because I was like, I'm spending 468 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: my money on new new skirts. Absolutely not um, but yeah, 469 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: there was like, God, the summer between eighth and ninth 470 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: grade was when all the huge, like giant Union Bay 471 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: jeans were a thing, and so it was like big 472 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: baggy jeans, little crop tops, and my friend Lauren and 473 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: I got really into white eyeliners, like thick, like chunky, 474 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: thick white eyeliner and so much mascara, and we were 475 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: just like, we are so cool, We're so cool. Oh man, 476 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: got the white eyeliner. I'd forgotten about that one. Yeah, 477 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: it was great, I'll find I tried that once for 478 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: an event. It was like something in New York Fashion Week. 479 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna really just go out on 480 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: a limb and eyeliner. Let me tell you what does 481 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: not look good on my face? I don't know if 482 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: it looks good on my face either, but god, I 483 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: felt fabulous. I remember the little plastic like woven chokers 484 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: that looked like little flowers. Yes, they have a little 485 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: flower choker and white eyeliner and little tops and giant jeans. 486 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was a moment, so twiggy. Yeah, we 487 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: had chokers. I had the leather choker that was like 488 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: but then I've realized, like I had a weapon around 489 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: my neck, like anybody could have murdered me where something 490 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, because it won't break, Yeah, it won't break. 491 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: And when it was like woven leather, Um, what was yours? Joy? 492 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: Did you have like a cameo on one? Oh? Yeah, 493 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: probably I did. Oh god, I love cameos. Nailed it, predictable, Victorian. Victorian, 494 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I had a cameo velvet choker with a cameo on't 495 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: like a little face tie. Yeah, I'm like, I think 496 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I've seen you wearing one of those. Actually, hold on, 497 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm on the internet right now 498 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: buying a choker web. I was I was watching The 499 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: Great you guys watching that on Hulu. The oh, it's 500 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: so good. It's about but it's um l Fanning and 501 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Nicholas Holes. Isn't it very like cheese? It is? It's 502 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: it's bubblegum pop. I'm excited. And the costumes are insane, 503 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: the sets are insane, the acting is really it's all 504 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: very very well done. Um. But there's a character and 505 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: she always wears a diamond necklace like a ten this 506 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: necklace but thicker, and then with uh ribbon, like a 507 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: just a ribbon choker around her neck and this diamond 508 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: necklace together. Every time I see it, I'm like, why 509 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I need that in my life. Yeah, the holidays, that's 510 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the look. Let's do that next time, next time. So 511 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: you made the choice not to wear a lot of 512 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: makeup in this episode. Speaking of makeup, Hillary and I, 513 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: it's the first time I remember seeing that because even 514 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: after Ellie died, like they still you still had lipstick 515 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: on the next day, not like it was noticeable. It 516 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, there was a uniform for 517 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: all of us, uh, for our faces, and it was 518 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: just like, that's what it is around the c w 519 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: you have to look like this, And I really loved 520 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: that you in this episode had you probably had foundation 521 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: on your skin, looked amazing. You were super glowy, best 522 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: hair days you've ever had um so far, and uh 523 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: didn't shower the whole time. Maybe that was it. I 524 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know, but you But did you have to fight 525 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: anybody on that or was that a pretty easy transition? 526 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: You're like, look, I just had an attack. I'm going 527 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: to not have makeup on this episode. I watching this 528 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: episode back, I can't pinpoint exactly what it is, but 529 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: I it's like I had acid reflux watching this episode back, 530 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Like my body remembers being mad or like grossed out 531 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: or just like toxic, and I I hate it this 532 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Like I watching it back almost twenty years later, I'm like, 533 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: I hate this, hate this, I hate this. I didn't 534 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: like the trauma bond between Peyton and Lucas, and I 535 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't have the words for that back then. But the 536 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: romanticizing of a trauma bond is weird for me as 537 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: a grown up. You know, like, this child has been assaulted, 538 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: she is living in Karen's house, and like no adult 539 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: talks to her, and so of course she is so 540 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: glued Lucas's side. That's not love. That's not love, that's trauma. 541 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: And like, at what point you know, to sleeping beauty, 542 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: wake up from that and say, oh, I've kind of 543 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: been in a I've been in a holding pattern just 544 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: trying to like survive every day. Um. So I really 545 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: didn't like that. I really didn't like how Derek was 546 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: directed to be so hostile. I didn't like that we 547 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: finally had another black man on the show and he 548 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: was directed to be super hostile. And I thought it 549 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: was out of character for a marine. They are trained 550 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: to control their feelings, and so there was a lot 551 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: that's interesting. It's a lot there that I was like, 552 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: Ernest is a good actor, so I don't like this 553 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: direction that he was given. Um. And I thought the 554 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: whole get over at Peyton messaging was yeah, you know, like, yeah, 555 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: not a way to handle sexual assault. I see all that. Yeah, 556 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think these are great points. But you 557 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: as an actor, so I'm saying you really did. You 558 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: really did a beautiful job. And I will say, like, 559 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: the the thing that I wrote down, the thing that 560 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: felt the most authentic to me. There's a line really 561 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 1: early in the episode. That is something that makes me 562 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: want I just want to punch people in the face 563 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: when they say this to anyone who's been through something. 564 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Lucas says to you, if you let this change you, 565 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: he wins. And it's like, excuse me, there is a 566 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: before and after when you go through something like this, 567 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and you just so simply respond and say, then maybe 568 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: he wins. I mean that's probably how I would answer 569 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: in real life. Yeah. Yeah, But it was the only 570 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: acknowledgement of of course this is going to change me, 571 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: and in whatever way you frame it, I'm different and 572 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: like it. It felt like an acknowledgement and and you 573 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: know a bit of a protest because someone who hasn't 574 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: been through that kind of trauma doesn't have a right 575 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: to tell you not to be changed, you know, and 576 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't. He's so flippant at the beginning of the episode, 577 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: the whole like making jokes like, oh, let me guess 578 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: what happened, like you're not feeling like, you know, had 579 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: the thing, and he was kind of poking fun at you. 580 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: I just I really didn't understand where he was coming 581 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: from at all with any of that. Also, the whole sentiment, 582 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: the whole episode is that you're a lesser person if 583 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: you have been changed by a traumatic event and pay 584 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: a week. Yeah, she's treated like she's lesser. It's like, oh, 585 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: if you could just get back to being old Peyton, 586 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: then you'd be a tough girl again. And for the 587 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: first time, she's actually being honest and admitting, Hey, I'm scared, 588 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to be myself. I'm telling people the 589 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: truth for the first time ever. I'm really struggling here. 590 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, God, she's she's a fraction of 591 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: who she used to be um And you think that 592 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: was the whole episode or you feel like that was 593 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: just where Lucas was coming from. No, I feel like 594 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: that's how. But the only two people Peyton interacts with 595 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: her Lucas and Derek, and they're both telling her that, 596 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't. I think that's why I liked 597 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: the boxing scenes so much. It didn't seem to me 598 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: that that's not the message I got anyway. I liked 599 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: the interspersing of all the flashbacks of every of all 600 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: these painful moments that have hit Peyton that she's just 601 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: sort of taken emotionally. She's been taking these hits, taking him, 602 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: taking him, taking him so to fight back is meaningful. 603 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: Um It. I felt a Catharsis for her in that. 604 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: As I was watching it, I was like, Yeah, that's you. 605 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: You can't just keep taking the hits. You have to 606 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: find a way to release. Um I liked it for 607 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: that reason. It was joy. That day at work was 608 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: so awkward because you see this big, huge scar on 609 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: my knuckle, like I've got I've got a big middle 610 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: knuckle over here. And it's because my brother had left 611 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: a dirty dish in the sink and I was pissed 612 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: and I went to go wash it and it shattered 613 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: and it sliced open my knuckle and like cut the tendon. 614 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: Good to Like three days later, I've got to shoot 615 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: this boxing scene. The reason my hands are all hidden 616 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: in the sleeves of that sweatshirt because we had to 617 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: like pad the shit out of it because I'm Ernest 618 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: was all padded up. They didn't even have him. It 619 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: was like they didn't have him grab a bag or 620 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: something or like a pad for me to paw. I 621 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to be punching him, but the way it 622 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: had to be shot, I wasn't actually punching him. I 623 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: was just kind of swinging my arm and having to 624 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: like fake punch the side of him, which looks stupid, 625 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: and I knew it looks stupid on the day. And 626 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: anytime you have to do a stunt that you know 627 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: look stupid on the day and cry on top of it, 628 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: you're just like, why is everyone begin with me today? 629 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: Why can't I just punch something directly or or not cry? 630 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Like it didn't look that bad now that they once 631 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: they edited everything and they cut it all together, with 632 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: all of it, you couldn't tell. I mean, I could 633 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: tell you, but it's only because I know how you 634 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: had to shoot it. It was uncomfortable. I also have 635 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: to say, like now I know that that coincided with 636 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: your hand thing, but I honestly when you were swinging 637 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: at the sides of him, was like I'd kind of 638 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: like the choice, like I thought you made a choice. 639 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: To me, no, but it's like, look like a kid 640 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: who didn't know what she was doing. Like you're not 641 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, Linda, You're not Linda Carter. You're not like 642 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: wonder Woman. You're not doing like a coordinated stunt scene 643 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: like you're supposed to be a kid who's this scared 644 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: and and and I don't know, I kind of liked 645 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: that you didn't look like, you know, a vander Holyfield, like, 646 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: because I find that to be ridiculous too. They wrote 647 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: this because Million Dollar Baby had just come out in 648 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: two thousand four, it won the Oscar at the end 649 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: of that year, and then you know, we shot this 650 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: like six months later, so you know, it was just 651 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: your house, like a couple episodes ago. And didn't someone 652 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: else have some boxing in their house. It's like they 653 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: the boxing out on a number of us, and I 654 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Also, that ring was really springy, and so 655 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: when I would take steps forward, I'm like bouncing and 656 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: came and I couldn't stop bouncing, and so it just 657 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: looks like Peyton's hopping the whole time. And I might 658 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: be the only person that's really zeroed in on this 659 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: because I hated it so much, But all I saw 660 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: on that scene was bouncing and arms flapping and like 661 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: having to cry, Oh, Peyton. I liked it. I agree 662 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: with Sophie. I thought it was a choice, the sort 663 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: of like Flailey element. Well, if you do say so, 664 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: it shall do. I think it's funny though that everybody 665 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: on our show at some point or another was boxing 666 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: except for me and I box, and I was always like, 667 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: I want to I want to go. No, you're being 668 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: punished a second phase with your part time model. Okay, 669 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: we I don't know that we need to spend much 670 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: time on it with the teacher. But why why why 671 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: why did they do this? I don't know. I um, 672 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: I really, I haven't stopped thinking about the tweet that 673 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: we got about this. You know, it hasn't stopped kind 674 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: of pinging around in my brain that that fans have 675 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: picked up on what felt like some really inappropriate messaging, 676 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: like that this felt targeted and and he showed us 677 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: yeah last week, I guess it was you know that 678 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: that men are like WHOA like f y I that 679 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: felt weird to us. And you know, again we're repeating 680 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: that Brooke is eighteen. Again, she goes in and says, hi, 681 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: Brooke Davis, eighteen high school student. You know, the this 682 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: notion that it might be inappropriate, but it's not illegal, 683 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: that that a bunch of men in their mid forties. 684 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: We're trying to suggest that it was okay. Yeah, it's 685 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: okay at least on a basic legal level. You know, no, 686 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: one can ever know, but you can still do it. 687 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: It just it makes my stomach turn. It makes me 688 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: really feel sick because what they're doing is they're trying 689 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: to normalize and romanticize a clear abuse of power. Well, also, 690 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: she's okay, technically not a child. But if this man 691 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: is willing to sleep with a student, you think that 692 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: the fact that she's eighteen really matters to this guy, 693 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: who clearly has just excellent moral standards, It doesn't matter. 694 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: You know. The whole thing is just not it's just 695 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: not right. Well, the scheming to where he's like if 696 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: we just wait three months, it's like he has thought 697 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: this out, Like how do I get away with this? Yeah, 698 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: so the next time she's sixteen, then the next time 699 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: she's fifteen, and then how how long does you know? 700 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: What I mean? Like, how far does that line go? 701 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: So disgusting? And again, you know the fact that this 702 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: repeat of Brooks age is being peppered in so often, 703 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: the fact that they made Rachel say, well, you know, 704 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: normally it's eighteen is the age of consent, but in 705 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: this state it's seventeen. Like, so essentially what you're saying 706 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: is a bunch of other grown men have made a 707 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: version of pedophilia, okay in this one state in the South, 708 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: and we're going to pretend that's all right. Like I 709 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: cannot imagine you guys at twenty six years old being like, 710 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: you know who I want to kiss that eighteen year 711 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: old that's seventeen, because I mean, what are we when 712 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: we're shooting this season, We're twenty five? Like I don't 713 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: even know that we were yet. I think we were 714 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: still like twenty four. I mean, I don't know anything 715 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: about those laws. I don't know if any of them 716 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: were put in a place when teenagers were getting married, 717 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: like sixteen year old were marrying each other and each 718 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: other being forced to get out of the house and 719 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: go get jobs. And because the economy was different and 720 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: the social structures were different, So it's possible that that 721 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: came from at but it's still gross because of the 722 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: implications that how it affects people who do Still it's 723 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: a loophole, and that's what bothers me, And that's what 724 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: it is. It's only ever used as a loophole, and 725 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: it's used as a loophole predominantly to prey on young women. 726 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: And and just the fact that we were that we 727 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: were being asked forced to portray some sort of normalization 728 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: of this, even when Brooke is being vulnerable with him 729 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: and saying like, well, what is this? Is this just 730 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: sex to you? And and she says, you know, all 731 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: we ever do is sneak around. I mean, not that 732 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: sneaking around is so bad. It's like she's been cultured 733 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: to make jokes for her own feelings. And I still 734 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: just yeah, it just all made me feel a different way. 735 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: You guys, like, legitimately, legally is eighteen, he's twenty three 736 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: years old. Let's those are the rules, right, And he 737 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: finds out that she is his student. He could have said, hey, 738 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: I really like you a lot, and there's only three 739 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: months left, and so I'm going to be your friend 740 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: and like get to know you for three months. I'm 741 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: your teacher and so we're not going to cross those boundaries. 742 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: But I like your brain and I'm seeing you use 743 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: it in the classroom and like cool, and when you 744 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: are eighteen, like or when you are graduated like meat. 745 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: It could have gone a different way where you saw 746 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: him being responsible. But now what we have back to 747 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: back are two men being reeled in by the feminine 748 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: wiles of high school girls between Rachel and Brook. You 749 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: know Cooper was a good man before that. What I 750 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, Yes, he's a good man, but 751 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: that Rachel got her hooks in him. And I'm sure this. 752 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: You know, Nick guy is a good man. It's just 753 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: the sexes. They're resistible. What's amazing. The same thing happened 754 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: to um what's his name, Jake with Nikiy just getting 755 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: lured in. They just can't help themselves. Yeah, I don't. 756 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Like Brooke having a secret, non 757 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: sexual relationship with a teacher would have been salacious and 758 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: also more interesting, like if they're literally meeting in the 759 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: coffee shop to talk about books or her student government 760 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: stuff and he becomes a mentor as opposed to a 761 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: sexual partner. But the sex sex sex, sex, sex like 762 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: that Drone b is so boring. It's so boring, and 763 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: it's deeply uncomfortable. Because again on their first date, when 764 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: she says, oh, this is where I used to be 765 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: a cheerleader, and he says, you still have the uniform, 766 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: Like it's it's even from the first date, it's all 767 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: he was talking about. Yeah, it's just it's it's it's 768 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: a fettization of these high school girls, of these cheerleaders. 769 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: And when I think inc back to our boss literally 770 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: screaming at us that none of the high school cheerleaders 771 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:15,479 Speaker 1: ever wanted to again, it just feels um. It makes 772 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: it feel personal and creepy. It's very I don't know, 773 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we were all being kind of puppeted 774 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: in a way that that felt it didn't feel like 775 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: creative story. It really felt like personal wish fulfillment and 776 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: it and it just like it makes my skin cross. 777 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: We were so young, we didn't have enough experience to 778 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: know how to name it and see what was going on. 779 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: So it was like, we're so uncomfortable. I'm so uncomfortable. 780 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: What do you guys? Even our last conversation, you know, 781 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 1: on the last episode that aired, when we were talking 782 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: about how we got bullied over the Maximum cover, Like 783 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: you guys, that's headline news. I don't know if you've 784 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: been on the internet this week, but like it is. 785 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: It is major news. People are like, oh my god, 786 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: there are articles written about it. Surprised me, I'd said, 787 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: he just sent me that from Variety this morning. I 788 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I don't know if it's 789 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: been out for a while, but I was like, whoa, no, 790 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: you guys. I I genuinely was like, wait, what this 791 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: is news? And that's what I thought too, Like I thought, 792 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: I've been yelling about this for years. Guys, well, hey, 793 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: we've been yelling about it for years. But be we 794 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: were we were treated like this was normal. We were 795 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: spoken to like this was normal. We were told that 796 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: this was just business dealings. So the fact that like 797 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: major publications are going look what happened to these girls, 798 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, it really was crazy, Like for us, 799 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: it was just another day that all these people are 800 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: like how dare oh my god, unbelievable that this was 801 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: allowed to go on on their set, and we're like, hello, 802 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: this was our every day. Like it's just so it's 803 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: it's it's surprising even now, um to realize how out 804 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: of the norm that is. And so it I think 805 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: it just all factors into when we watch things like 806 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: this on screen, you go, oh, come on, it feels 807 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: personal joy. You're getting put into the karen um, what 808 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: is the what is what the word for? Like a 809 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: man would be called a eunuch, but like you're getting 810 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: put into this this like sexless box. She's the Madonna. 811 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: There's it's the Madonna horror Complex and Rachel and Broker 812 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,919 Speaker 1: Horse and Haley is the Madonna and you you guys 813 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: had beautiful scenes this episode. And it was weird to 814 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: get a backstory from Karen that was no backstory, like 815 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: did you guys clock that? When she was like, you know, 816 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: look at all the things that you have, Haley, I 817 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: was pregnant and I didn't have a family, and I 818 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: had no friends, and that's all we know about Karen. Yeah, no, 819 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: no real information. It's so weird. She's so unvaluable that 820 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 1: we don't dig into any of it. It is so 821 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: so weird. I think they just really didn't know. I mean, 822 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: that was it. If you're not useful for sex, then 823 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with you. I suppose 824 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: we'll make you pregnant, if we magine that's gonna buy 825 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: us nine hole months, that's right, So we'll make you pregnant, 826 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: but then you're gonna have a baby, and now you're 827 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: definitely sexless. So I really don't know what to do 828 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: with you. So let's make it so. If you notice 829 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: these whole storylines all from like from a little bit 830 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: before this all start to become about reactionary stuff. She's 831 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: not actually active and making choices and doing things and 832 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: inter interfering in other people's storylines, or there's no action. 833 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: She's just reacting for the next like basically the next 834 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: nine season or six seasons. Yeah, it's really really weird, Sophia, 835 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna say something. Well, I was just gonna say, 836 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 1: it's so interesting that they're like, well, the minute she's pregnant, 837 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: she's got to be buttoned up and and prude, and 838 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: then once she's a mom, she's prude. And I'm like, 839 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: do y'all forget how women get pregnant? Like, clearly she's 840 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: not a sexless person. When you're pregnant, your hormones are 841 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: bananas and you don't care that you're pregnant. Like, if anything, 842 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: Haley should have been like all over Nathan, like you 843 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: just won that game, you just won three games in 844 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: a row. Let's jam Oh my god. Yes, But you 845 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: know what I will say, because I don't just want 846 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: to be down on the grossness of the writer's room. 847 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: I want to give like a very sweet shout out 848 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: to how nice it is to see the River Cork 849 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: boys them in the gym, and that that scene where 850 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, Lucas tells Skills to keep his starter jersey 851 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: and then you see Lucas, Nathan and Skills just dominating 852 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: these games together. And the montages of the playoffs are 853 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: so good. And even though I hate Brooke and her 854 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: teacher hooking up at school, it's literally disgusting. There's the 855 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: way they edit everyone's stories so that you see what 856 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: everyone's doing during these montages, whether it's bad behavior, you know, 857 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: good behavior, you're you know, you're dealing with your stuff. 858 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: It's I don't know, like that is some of the 859 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: best of what our episodes were. So even though there's 860 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot I think that's problematic. Here, the the joy 861 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: of the game and Whitey becoming such a good advocate, 862 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: like telling Dan to back the funk off and Nathan 863 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: and getting Lucas back in the game for fifteen minutes 864 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: a game, Like there is some really d Whitey here. Ah, 865 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: there's just some beautiful stuff that I want to cling 866 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 1: to because that's what yeah, it was, just like those 867 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: are the meaningful moments. It's not all the crazy action. 868 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: It's the moments where you just sit on Barry's face, 869 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: watching the boys play and being proud of the work 870 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: that he's put in and seeing the fruits of his labor. 871 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that in real life, 872 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: Those are the moments that feed our soul, and when 873 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: you watch it from characters who you love, it feeds 874 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: your soul. Those are the things that feel really important 875 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: to me. I loved that as well. White He had 876 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: that really good quote because he was talking about you know, 877 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: do you know how much it took for your mother 878 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: to come in here and and ask for you to 879 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: play those fifteen minutes? He said, you get fifteen minutes 880 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: of time, a game to make her proud and a 881 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: lifetime to make them both proud, referring to Keith because 882 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: he's now wearing Keith's jersey. And see, that's it, Like 883 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing that we write down. We don't write 884 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: down the loan Shark ship. You know. That's that's the 885 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: goofy stuff that some dude in the room thought was cool. 886 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: The stuff that our fan based that was cool were 887 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: those moments of like, hey, what I do matters and 888 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: how I connect with people matters. Yeah, and Barry, that 889 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: idea that you know, You've got these minutes in the 890 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: game and a lifetime. It's it's this sweet old man 891 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: essentially saying it only gets bigger and better from here. Yeah, 892 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: put high school in perspective. These are moments you have 893 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: a whole lifetime, grow into the man you want to be, 894 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: make your people proud for the next you know, sixty years, 895 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: and that that's such sage advice, especially when you're in 896 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: that bubble when you feel like it's your whole world. 897 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: To remember that there is a universe out there waiting 898 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: for you is such a that's just such a gift 899 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: that's only someone with perspective can give to you at 900 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: that age. Agreed. How do you feel about the mouth 901 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: and gig of it all? Oh? I love seeing Kelsey. 902 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: She's so good. I mean we just watched her Yellowstone 903 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: like she's killing. Is such a good dramatic actress and 904 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy as to be reminded of like all this 905 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: comedy she was doing is a baby. Yeah. Yeah, she's 906 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: so great and they're so sweet together, and it's fun 907 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: to watch them. It's really fun to watch them well, 908 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: and I like that mouth clocked the whole Oh, I've 909 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: been friend zoned, like multiple times. Am I really going 910 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: to friend zone this? You know, they try to make 911 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: her a nerdy girl, but she's like a super hot 912 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: girl sunning. Yeah, it's like the Rachel Lee Cook effect. 913 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, guys, nice trying to see that she's 914 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: doing to um. All right, what else did we miss? 915 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: That's it? Uh, the government letting pedestrians wander through the 916 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: training the military crew. That was clearly no one in 917 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: our writer's room had ever been pregnant or dealt with 918 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: the pregnancy before, because they have no idea what hormones are. Um, 919 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: they have never been on a military base or like 920 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: not on a military base like seeded up front. You know, 921 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: they just they were just making it up at this point. 922 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 1: That was so funny, Like that was so funny. Sophie 923 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: and I were cracking up the idea that a pedestrian 924 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: could just walk up to a marine base and be like, 925 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just looking for Derek. Oh yeah, he's 926 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: over there, no problem. And then the card gate just 927 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: goes up to a ride in my hum Vy into training, 928 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: going to give you a ride here. We were at war. 929 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: We were at war when this episode aired. We were 930 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: and that's right. I mean, we were literally training to 931 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: send these boys to war. It was serious and so yeah, 932 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: that idea that like. And then they're giving Billy Idol 933 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: a ride onto their base and then you come later exactly, 934 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: it's so crazy, just a little walk and talk with 935 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: the crazy what Joy and Hill. We were dying laughing 936 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: before you hopped on, because you know, it cuts to 937 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: Ernest leading everyone through a run, and then it just 938 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: turns and there's some guy and Chad in the hummer 939 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: driving through the training exercises and we were so aghast 940 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: that that would never happen. I didn't even say, but 941 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: I wrote down I go, and they tore up the 942 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: grass like, oh my god, like the car literally like 943 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: left hire trucks gonna get this. We're going to just 944 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: send on a helicopter next time. Don't worry. That's what 945 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: I want to see, guys. I don't know. There were 946 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: some real ridiculous things. I'm going to go out on 947 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: the fact that the River Court boys were the sweetest 948 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: And let's end on a high note and take a 949 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: fan question. Yes this one, okay, I'm gonna ask you, guys. 950 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: It's from Carrie. She says, what do you think the 951 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: origin story of Peyton and Brooks friendship is the show 952 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: never actually told us how they became friends. Whoa how 953 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: is what did happen? Well, there's mention of us having 954 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: been friends since we were little. Remember I thought Peyton's 955 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: mom died when she was like eight or nine, and 956 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: so I know that we were friends before that, before that. Yeah, 957 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 1: because Peyton talks about you tell that story. I don't 958 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: remember if it's this season or last season, about how 959 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: when your mom died, I just never left and we 960 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: talked about the winter and like the Igloo when Igloo story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 961 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: And so I mean they've been friends since elementary school 962 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, I mean eight or nine is like 963 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: third fourth grade. So if they were already best friends 964 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: before that, these are preschool buddies. These are just like 965 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: and my kid has those, Like Goss is friends with 966 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: the same kids that he's been friends with since he 967 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: was three, and every once in a while, like you 968 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: pick up a new person. But I can totally see 969 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: them as like the two alpha chicks in the preschool classroom. 970 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: That are because personalities are strong at that. I just 971 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: dropped George off. That's why I was late, because I 972 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: dropped George off at preschool, and I'm just like, please 973 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: just be like a sweetheart, don't be loving and inclusive. 974 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: Um yea, but yeah, I think preschool. You're still friends 975 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: with kids that she went to preschool with. Yes, wait 976 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: no kindergarten. Kindergarten. Yeah, but the same difference. Yeah, she 977 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: has one particularly one really good friend who she still 978 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: want to kindergarten with. Yeah, so sweet. Yeah, I I 979 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: totally buy these two, you know, being friends from preschool. 980 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: And it's actually really interesting to think at that moment, 981 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: like Victoria and Peyton's mom wouldn't known each other. Oh 982 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: wild right, that's pretty cool. We never find out anything 983 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: about Peyton's mom. She makes one comment to Ellie like 984 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: I got my art from my mom. But I just 985 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: imagine these two little girls like and Peyton letting Brooke 986 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: do whatever she wants to her, like I'm gonna take 987 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: these markers and put makeup on you, and Peyton's like okay, 988 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: Like what I mean? That's the energy that I see 989 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: preschool Payton brop Hey, I'm gonna cut bangs, Okay, Okay, 990 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want. I also like the idea that little 991 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: baby artist Peyton was probably giving us both like temporary 992 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: tattoos with with our Pentel marker sets. Listen. I have 993 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: a picture of Gus at that age where he has 994 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: drawn what he thinks look like robot parts on his chest. 995 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like robot parts. It looks totally inappropriate. 996 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: But at that age, you're giving yourself tattoos and you're like, 997 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: I look so cool. Um, yeah, you give me the makeup. 998 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you the tattoos. Yeah, I need those photos. 999 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Those are fun? Do it? Most likely to do? This 1000 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: is good? This is good? Who's most likely to get 1001 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: rid of their smartphone and go back to a flip phone? Slash? BlackBerry? Girl? 1002 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: That BlackBerry was a love, that BlackBerry. It was. You 1003 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: had to pry that out of my cold dead hands. 1004 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I was never going to give that thing up. I 1005 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: still have mine. What you guys, I have a box 1006 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: hold like I have it, but is yours. I gave 1007 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: it to Gusts to use as a prop and movies 1008 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: that he makes. I'm just gonna say that I had 1009 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: the newest model of the iPhone, and as soon as 1010 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: the smallest version that you could get, like the fits 1011 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: in the palm of your hand came out I went 1012 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: back to it. It's like the smallest, dumbest version, But 1013 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: I love it because it's not invading my life in 1014 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: the same way as that giant It was like a computer, 1015 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: and you're a giant computer screen in your hand. Every day. 1016 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: You can't sit down, you can't fit in any of 1017 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: your purses. It breaks. Are you going to do this? 1018 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Just shrunk right now. I have literally been thinking about 1019 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: going back. So first I found my old BlackBerry, and 1020 01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: then I found not one but to These are the razors. 1021 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: These are the Motorola raisers. And I want this to 1022 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: be my cell phone again. Yeah, so bad. Yeah. The 1023 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 1: idea that no one can just blow up your phone 1024 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: with text messages. How a relief that would be. And 1025 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: when you were on the phone you'd be like, okay, 1026 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I love you buy yeah. Oh the feeling of that. 1027 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: I want it. Yeah, I have a box of old 1028 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: text piece of mind. If you're going to check your 1029 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Instagram or your Twitter, you have to get on your computer, 1030 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and like, this is the time you were choosing to 1031 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: do this instead of just having it in your pocket. 1032 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: The idea that I could have a phone that flips 1033 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: open and close and the only text I can send 1034 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: are like smiley faces, and I have to really type 1035 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: out the numbers, like gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, send me 1036 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: voice text all day long, send leave me voice messages 1037 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: I do not want to read. If I could get 1038 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: the sidekick again, the T mobile side that was my 1039 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: favorite device of all time. Oh flipped up on the side, Hilary, 1040 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: You and I have like visceral core memories of being 1041 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: in the makeup trailer at like five am and both 1042 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: of us being like hey, hey, like and we would 1043 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: just be typing in our little sidekicks. It was like 1044 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: having a typewriter in your fist and loved it all right. Well, 1045 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: then I think the answer to that wheel is all 1046 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: of us, because God, how do we get that endorsement deal? 1047 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Like do we come out with a drama Queen's flip phone? Really, 1048 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: what I want is for this to be my cell phone, 1049 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: and then I want, like I wanted the device to 1050 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: essentially split where I only talk on the phone on this. 1051 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: But if I want to do like texts, emails, whatever 1052 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: on an iPhone that like I need longer form for 1053 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I can. I don't know how to do that. Maybe 1054 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: somebody who's listening, knows how to how to do a 1055 01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: little call forwarding or something. Yeah, you do the iPad, 1056 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: just do it all then iPad. So it's like a 1057 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: big thing that, like Joy. To Joy's point, you're forced, 1058 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: yes to get in there. I like that. I'm down 1059 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Clophone city, man, it's happening here alright. Next episode, Season four, 1060 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: episode seven, all these things that I've done. Oh that 1061 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: sounds dark. Yeah, danger, I'm excited. See you next week. Hey, 1062 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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