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Speaker 1: Welcome in Texas all Access players. Addition, and speaking of players,

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Speaker 1: one of the best to ever do it, Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 1: I still think there should be a statue in front

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Speaker 1: of University of Houston, but I don't make those decisions.

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Speaker 1: Andre where joining myself, Mark VanderMeer, I am.

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Speaker 2: That's how you guys doing. Welcome in, brother Hi.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be in and uh finally good to

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Speaker 3: do a show together. And you and Mark and this

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Speaker 3: this is the dream team.

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Speaker 4: I mean, all right, Johnny's not here with us. He'll

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Speaker 4: be along next hour a sabbatical, yeah, exactly a little

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Speaker 4: bit in this hour. But uh, well, Dre doesn't have

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Speaker 4: a statue in d but I think he's got something better,

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Speaker 4: because a statue you wouldn't see all the time on TV.

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Speaker 4: But the eleven on the eleven yard line, I think

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Speaker 4: is is such a great way to honor him. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Cool they have. They've gone above and beyond.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally fine with whatever they do, what they've done,

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Speaker 3: or whatever they do from this point going forward. But

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Speaker 3: the eleven I was blown away on the field. You

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Speaker 3: got to unveil it that on a day my son

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Speaker 3: got to see it. It was it was great. It

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Speaker 3: was uh. And and you're right, every time I'm watching

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Speaker 3: a U of H game, I'm looking for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, you used to at Robertson.

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Speaker 4: You had the banner in the end zone above the

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Speaker 4: seats there, and that was cool too, because you're at

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Speaker 4: the State em you see Andre wear a Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 4: But the eleven man the eleven It's just it gets

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Speaker 4: seen you're on the field.

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Speaker 3: It's become part of the guys that you know, I

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Speaker 3: played there with, and it's I say, it's ours, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I obviously couldn't do what we did by myself, right,

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Speaker 3: And so we're sharing a lot of stuff. And and uh,

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Speaker 3: I was joking the other day. I actually said it

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Speaker 3: yesterday morning. There they have a piece of the Heisman,

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Speaker 3: each and every one of them. Yeah, I just get

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Speaker 3: to keep it.

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Speaker 2: At my house.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, speaking of Heisman. And I thought

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Speaker 1: these commercials were pretty cool. Reggie Bush finally getting back.

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Speaker 1: So is the officially now winner.

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Speaker 3: Back and he's officially a Heisman Trophy winner. Don't ask

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Speaker 3: me what year, because I'm a blank. I think was

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Speaker 3: five five, Yeah, five five Heisman but uh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: just ticked because he gets a damn commercial. He's been

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Speaker 3: suspended from however long, not a Heisman for however long,

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Speaker 3: and he goes right in and gets a commercial.

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Speaker 2: I got to talk to somebody when I get to

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Speaker 2: New York.

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Speaker 4: But that Heisman House rotates a little bit because you

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Speaker 4: were part of us.

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Speaker 3: And I've filmed one commercial in the Heisman House. Some

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Speaker 3: guys are there like every single year, and it's a

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Speaker 3: let's just say it's a good.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to be a good, good place to be

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Speaker 2: in July.

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Speaker 4: It is now you, I would think you would get more.

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Speaker 4: They should be smart about this because you're on ESPN

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Speaker 4: all the time, you know, not because of your Texas.

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Speaker 3: I think it's that it has everything to do with

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Speaker 3: big school, small school decisions. And you see guys from Ohio, State, USC, Florida, h.

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Speaker 3: The SEC is taken care of in terms of that

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Speaker 3: in Oklahoma, Nebraska, those are the ones that that go.

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Speaker 3: And that's little guys like Houston and b Why you

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Speaker 3: would getting left out?

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Speaker 1: I have a question in the comment. So I also

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Speaker 1: think because you're very reserved, you're very private.

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Speaker 3: A lot of those guys, I'm not going to be

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Speaker 3: that runs okay, because a lot of those guys they

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Speaker 3: and I'm not knocking them because I love those commercials

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Speaker 3: and we all dream of being Heisman Trophy winners. But

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of those guys they chase the publicity,

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Speaker 3: of keep to yourself, So I need to get out there.

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Speaker 2: You need to get out.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy personal time, and when it's that time for me,

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Speaker 3: I can shut the light off and not need the spotlight. Ever,

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Speaker 3: there's some guys that play and you know they can't

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Speaker 3: ever get over not having the spotlight shined on them,

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Speaker 3: and that's that makes for a hard life after you

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Speaker 1: There's a guy played with very famous I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to say his name, but what you just said describes him.

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Speaker 1: He's had the career that I could only dream of having.

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Speaker 1: But a part of me feels sorry for him right

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Speaker 1: when they're done. When they're done, because they're still chasing it.

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Speaker 1: They're still running in front of the camera like, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't forget about me.

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Speaker 2: I think when you go to the restaurant, you're supposed

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Speaker 2: to get you know, go to the head of the line.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not supposed to wait in line, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not an ordinary guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the day your career is over, you're a regular guy.

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Speaker 1: So my question was, is it a real house.

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Speaker 2: It's not a real house.

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Speaker 3: It's it's uh, probably am letting out too many but no,

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Speaker 3: it's not a real house. It's the publicity, by the way,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if it's the same house every year.

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Speaker 3: But out in Los Angeles's where that's where those commercials are.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So not to hijack the show, because

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Speaker 4: I have many questions about what you just said about

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Speaker 4: being a former player. I've got questions galore about that.

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Speaker 4: But we got to react to the suspension as he's

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Speaker 4: out shire with the three games, and I hate losing them,

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Speaker 4: I mean football wise, My gosh, you know you're losing

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Speaker 4: him for the gauntlet of Miami, Kansas City, and Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Now there will be an appeal, Maybe he gets that reduced,

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Speaker 4: maybe not. But I wanted to get your thoughts, and

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Speaker 4: indeed we're talking about it yesterday with you being a defender,

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Speaker 4: how to hold up when to hold up? You got

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Speaker 4: to know when to hold him, know when to hold him,

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Speaker 4: fold them or whatever. Tenny Rodgers would say, how does

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Speaker 4: that play out for you as a defender, and what

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Speaker 4: do you think of this?

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Speaker 1: I know him in the minority, having a great quarterback

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Speaker 1: sitting next to me. I think we're gonna disagree on this.

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Speaker 1: I hate the suspension. I hate the rule. I love

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Speaker 1: the idea of protecting players. But when you're a defensive

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Speaker 1: player and you're in the open field, one of the

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Speaker 1: toughest things to do is to tackle a great athlete

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Speaker 1: in the open field. You know, and we joke about

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks or statues, but there's still more athletic than

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Speaker 1: the average man walking the street.

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Speaker 2: So when you're a.

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Speaker 1: Guy like al Shair and you're tracking Lawrence, you're thinking, One,

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Speaker 1: where's the first down marker?

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Speaker 2: Two? Is he gonna fake me east? Is it gonna

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Speaker 1: I have to hit him hard enough to make sure

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Speaker 1: the momentum if he decides to lower his shoulder, doesn't

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Speaker 1: knock me into the first down. And now you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to think within a millisecond, oh, he's sliding, So I

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Speaker 1: have to pull up. And when I saw it, because

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Speaker 1: of the rules. I said, Okay, that's a penalty. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But this reaction that he's some kind of thug,

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Speaker 1: that he's some kind of dirty player, that he's being

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Speaker 1: suspended for three games, Like I literally want to text

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Speaker 1: Troy Vincent, my former teammate, who put all these rules

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Speaker 1: in places, and say, come on, man, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: But it's all about optics. It looked bad.

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Speaker 1: I'll be the first one to admit my first thought

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Speaker 1: when I saw the armstiff and from Trevor Lawrence was God,

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Speaker 1: I hope he's okay, but I don't think it warrants

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Speaker 1: a suspension as if he was trying to hurt Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I know he wasn't trying to hurt him. That's first

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Speaker 3: and foremost. I have a legitimate, honest question that I

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Speaker 3: to answer it because you played on that side of

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Speaker 2: When you're in.

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Speaker 3: That situation and you've tracked him from where al Shai

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Speaker 3: split second that that's a quarterback. I got to make

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Speaker 3: sure if he's sliding, I got to pull up. If

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Speaker 3: he doesn't, I can hit him. But as you're tracking him,

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Speaker 3: do you know in your mind you're running to track him,

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Speaker 3: that's the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I wish I could answer it.

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Speaker 1: But back when I played, that was a good dude.

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Speaker 1: The thought was once he becomes once he leaves the pocket,

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Speaker 1: he's a runner. So you didn't have to think is

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Speaker 1: he gonna slide?

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Speaker 2: You know? Do I have to wait to see what

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Speaker 1: When I'm on this great podcast and we have current players,

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Speaker 1: defensive players, I always ask them and Mark. I always

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Speaker 1: think is Mark getting sick of this question? Because I

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Speaker 1: always asked them, how do they play today? And say

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Speaker 1: his game? Because I don't know if I could do it.

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Speaker 3: I said yesterday, I didn't know how you hit a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: even if he's in the pocket and you're going to

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Speaker 3: sack him. If you hit him low, that's that's rough

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Speaker 3: in the passer. If you hit him too high, that's

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Speaker 3: rough in the passer. You've got about probably a ten

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Speaker 3: a legitimate hit. I thought the suspension was I didn't

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Speaker 3: think it would be three games. I'm not surprised that

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Speaker 5: The aftermath of that after the hit.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking strictly after the hit, because I think that's

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Speaker 3: the action that warranted or got him to the three

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Speaker 3: game suspension. I don't think it was the hit itself.

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Speaker 3: I think it was after the hit and what played

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Speaker 3: out after the hit. You're you're defensive or you're defending yourself,

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Speaker 3: trying to get back to the field, and you've got

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Speaker 3: a bunch of players taken up for their quarterback at

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Speaker 3: you start back like you want to go get some

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Speaker 3: more again, and all those actions are on camera. That's

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Speaker 3: what got the three get That's what got the suspension. Yes,

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Speaker 3: is how he reacted after the fact when everything was

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Speaker 3: cleared out. No, I want to go get some more,

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Speaker 3: and that's all being filmed.

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Speaker 4: Emotions running behind down. I got to say this, and

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Speaker 4: I know you guys know this, but I've said it before.

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Speaker 5: Aziz al Shire.

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Speaker 4: I think there's an image of him out there, there's

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Speaker 4: a narrative as a person that has to stop. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I understand people see these things and you can

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Speaker 4: show a highlight reel of this hit and that hit.

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Speaker 4: He was fine for this and then the Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 4: thing and what happened afterwards. Like you said, Dre, I

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Speaker 4: just don't want people to think that he's not a

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Speaker 4: good guy.

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Speaker 5: This is not only a good guy.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who came to the Houston Texans

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Speaker 4: organization and said, what can I do in the community.

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Speaker 4: I want to work in the community community. I want

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Speaker 4: to get involved with whatever you guys are doing to

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Speaker 4: In a fifteen minute conversation. The guy is that easy guy,

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Speaker 5: We talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Here's what else I don't like about it on a

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Speaker 3: But in my if, I'm caught in that situation where

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Speaker 4: Number seven, Derrick Henry is not sliding exactly, I gotta figure.

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Speaker 1: But we all saw the Baker mayfield highlight where he faked, slid,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So now, if you if you give yourself up, if

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Speaker 4: run out of bounds, quarterback, that's the price you're gonna

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Speaker 4: fake it. You gotta slide if you're gonna slide. That's

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Speaker 4: what I think. Last night, Monday Night football, Jameis Winston

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Speaker 4: I mean clear helmet to helmet, no flag, all of

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Speaker 4: disease has taking grief all day. Meanwhile, this guy doesn't

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Speaker 4: even draw penalty. Now, I know it's hard. It's apples

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's tough, and I don't I would never

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Speaker 2: I'll call it on Georgia.

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Speaker 4: And we're all old enough to remember, and most of

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Speaker 5: Why don't any Why doesn't anybody do that anymore?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it used to look sweet as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really loved it, man, It was kind of

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Speaker 2: We do it on the street as well.

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Speaker 3: And if play the game where if you get close

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Speaker 4: I got to say that that era of football coaches.

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Speaker 4: Bum Phillips was his own brand, Tom, his own brand,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Paul Brown, Lombardi.

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Speaker 4: And remember when Mike Nolan wanted to wear a tie

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Speaker 3: Coach at at Minnesota P. J. Fleck College, he wears.

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Speaker 5: A See that's good.

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Speaker 4: Harball as the Michigan coach kind of had that brand.

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Speaker 3: Look was in his mind, you know, thought he was

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Speaker 4: And now it feels like the league makes them all

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Speaker 5: Okay, That's that's what we should lobby for.

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Speaker 5: I think he was wearing the salute to service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you wear red and you beat, Yeah you beat again,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't mess with a winning street. But question for

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 4: So we've got a former player, Andre Ware and any

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason why a lot of guys don't prepare

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Speaker 1: reality hit? After like year five or six. You know,

440
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Speaker 1: I want to play as long as I can, but

441
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Speaker 1: I also want to make sure when I'm done playing,

442
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to work for anybody. So then that's

443
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 1: when I started, you know, when got my real estate

444
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: license and became a broker in the offseason and started

445
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 1: buying apartments houses. I still thought I could be great,

446
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: but I just knew that the end was going to come.

447
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 1: But with some of these players, especially the ones that

448
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 1: start early on, you know, they're not thinking about what

449
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: am I going to do in ten years. Their thought

450
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: is I'm going to sign three four deals, be set

451
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 1: for life and not have to worry about life after football.

452
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Speaker 1: And I understand it because I was there. But at

453
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 1: some point you do have to start thinking about life after,

454
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: and it's never easy. Even when I had things set

455
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: up when I was done in two thousand and nine,

456
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 1: it still took a couple of years to accept the

457
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: fact that I wasn't a football player anymore.

458
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Speaker 3: It's a great way to put it, because I'm jotting

459
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Speaker 3: down some notes and the one thing I think a

460
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: lot of players miss when they are drafted, when and

461
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 3: family members really miss this that are around a player

462
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 3: after he's drafted and he's in the NFL, that it's

463
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 3: never your decision when it's over. Everybody goes into it

464
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 3: thinking I'm going to retire at this age and do it.

465
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Speaker 3: I think you've got this beautiful picture mapped out, and

466
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 3: it's never your decision when it's over with. And it

467
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: can be over as early as after high school. It

468
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: can be over after you're done in college, or you're

469
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: lucky and you get to play X amount of years

470
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: in the NFL, but at some point somebody's gonna say

471
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: you're not good enough. And guys have a hard time

472
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: accepting that. Then you got to be real with yourself

473
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: when it's over, and they keep chasing it for a while,

474
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: or keep trying to live the same lifestyle they live

475
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Speaker 3: when they were playing, And there's a lifestyle you have

476
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: to live when you're playing to know that you're setting

477
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 3: yourself up for later on in life.

478
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: You're not spending it. You're not you know, the guy

479
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: that's buying.

480
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: The bottle every bottle service, every time you guys go

481
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: out and have a good time, or you're you know,

482
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: you're taking care of the bill every money runs out.

483
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 3: You can spend it, making millions. You can run, it

484
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: can run out on you.

485
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 4: What's the percentage of lottery winners who go bankrupt? It's

486
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Speaker 4: something lottery winners.

487
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 3: And then you got to you gotta get into something

488
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 3: that you're passionate about, that you really, you really love

489
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Speaker 3: to do, and it's not a lot of guys find

490
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 3: themselves chasing what they used to make, and that can

491
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: get you in a lot of trouble as well. You

492
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: start chasing money. Yeah, you gotta have taken care of

493
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: yourself on the front end while you're playing. That gives

494
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Speaker 3: you the opportunity to really hand pick what you want

495
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: to do in your next career, and then from there

496
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: you find something that you're passionate about.

497
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, there's a lot of positive and succes,

498
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: sucessful examples, but you know, we tend to focus on

499
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: the negatives. And a lot of the guys that I

500
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: know who are having success post playing career, they're not

501
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: the biggest names, so they kind.

502
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: Of, you know, had my mentality. But it's kind of

503
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: like the guys that you played with in college.

504
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: The stars aren't the ones that are necessarily go on

505
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: to do X, Y and Z and run corporations exactly,

506
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 3: and and become doctors. It's the walcome played, they're the

507
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: most successful, more successful, uh, in terms of the life

508
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: or lifestyles that that were on the on your teams

509
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: in college.

510
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Speaker 4: And often coaches are like that too, not all the time,

511
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 4: but that often happens. Dray, How did you know? How

512
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: did you because you handled yourself well? How did you

513
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 4: know how to handle yourself as far as being a

514
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 4: pro and then transitioning into not being profess a professional

515
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: athlete anymore and building your life.

516
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Speaker 3: I think it just goes back to how you were raised.

517
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: There's there's an arrogance that can come with playing professional

518
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: sports that you have to get over once it's once

519
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: it's once, it's you're done. I've seen guys that have

520
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: acted like a holes while they were playing, and then

521
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they need to get into a

522
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: certain industry and people remember how you acted when you

523
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 3: were playing. So I just respect everybody and that's how

524
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 3: I did it along the way, when you're at your

525
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: highest peak and as you're transitioning, you you're the same way.

526
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: And I would say, just be consistent and the way

527
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: you treat people so that doors will open for you

528
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: because you were in d Kalu or Mark Vandermer, this

529
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: awesome quarterback that played X amount of years. Oh heck, yeah,

530
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: he's trying to transition into what we're doing. Yeah, that

531
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: that door is a little bit easier to open, and

532
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: you can kind of handpick which one you want to

533
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: go through. But if you're the a hole, those doors

534
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: don't open nearly as fast.

535
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

536
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, people.

537
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: Remember, they remember interaction. I will meet somebody in my

538
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 3: weekly travels that I've met fifteen twenty years ago, and

539
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: I took a picture with their daughter and spent time.

540
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: But you know, I knew the car was getting ready

541
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: to leave and you were in a hurry, but you

542
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: took the time to take this picture with my daughter.

543
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: They show it to you and they're appreciative of it,

544
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: and so that's that's kind of an example of if

545
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: you needed that guy, you don't treat everybody the same

546
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: because you don't know when you're gonna need somebody.

547
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 5: It's got to be tough though.

548
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: When you guys were players and people want a picture

549
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: or not a craft.

550
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: I signed every one of them if I could, because

551
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: one some day they're going to stop asking yeah, and

552
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of how I tell my son. He says, well,

553
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: why do you sign all of them and this that,

554
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: and because one day they won't ask, but you want

555
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: to keep them asking. But the fastest way they won't

556
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: ask is to say no. And then that starts to

557
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: spread itself around.

558
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Speaker 2: The way the internet and all that. Now, that gets

559
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: spread pretty quickly.

560
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, those those kinds of things.

561
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Speaker 1: All right, Coming up, we'll talk to Andre Ware about

562
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: his time in Dickinson and leading up to his star

563
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: career over at University of Houston. You definitely don't want

564
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Speaker 1: to miss that. This is Texans All Access Players Edition.

565
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Welcome in, Welcome back, Texans All Access Players Edition. I

566
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: am ind he is Mark VanderMeer, andre Ware joining us today,

567
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: and Mark wants to go way back.

568
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: He wants to go way.

569
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Speaker 4: Back because I love these stories. Because Dickinson High School

570
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: and you played for Dub Ferris, that was your coach,

571
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: and when we did the morning show together from seven

572
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: through nine, which man, as I say that, it sounds

573
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: like a long time ago now, Andre, oh my gosh, but.

574
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: It feels like ten minutes ago that we did that.

575
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: Eighteen years ago. Man, it's holy crap, and I remember

576
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: listening to y'all every.

577
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: More that flies by, but you you would impart and

578
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: it was great. And I got to say this, Dre

579
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: was an excellent morning host. Excellent.

580
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 5: So once I.

581
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: Learned how to wake up, once you learned how to drink.

582
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: Once I once I corrupted you with coffee, and I'm

583
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: still drinking it to this.

584
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Sorry twenty something years later.

585
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's sorry, But I'm not I'm not just saying

586
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: this because you're here. I just think that people got

587
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: to know a different side of you, right, you know,

588
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: they knew you as the Heisman Trophy winner, NFL guy broadcaster, great,

589
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: great game broadcaster, National TV, Texans Radio great, but just

590
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: being able to tell stories, you know, sit there for

591
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 4: four hours a day and tell stories. And Dub Ferris,

592
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: your high school coach playing at Dickinson, the Gators, all

593
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: that stuff. There were people calling in who remembered.

594
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 5: You from those days.

595
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: But what would those days like playing high school ball

596
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: there and Dickinson. They've kind of improved the facility since

597
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: you're just a little.

598
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: Bit, just a little bit, no, It's it's fabulous and

599
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: Dickinson will always be home for me. It's why like,

600
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: I don't understand how guys transfer so much in college,

601
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: because where do you call home, you know, after you

602
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: played in eight play or however many they're playing now.

603
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: But it's a special place for me. I got the

604
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: chance to go to breakfast last week with Coach Ferris,

605
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: and he and Miss Ferris, and we were in San

606
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: Antonio had a game that night, and we sat down

607
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: and got I wish we had more time, you know.

608
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: It was just one of those where I had a

609
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: late morning zoom production meeting for the game that night

610
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: and had to zoom off or get.

611
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Out of there.

612
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: But he is as passionate about the game of football

613
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: as he as he's ever was. I wish that every

614
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: young man that puts a helmet on will have the

615
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: relationship that I have with my high school coach, because

616
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: it's a special one in a sense that when I

617
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: was young, he became kind of my father figure, and

618
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: he calls me his son now and I call him

619
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: dad and things.

620
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Of that sort.

621
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: It's a deep relationship that you know, my father passed

622
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: when I was six years old, so I learned a

623
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: lot in a short period of time from him, from

624
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: the time I met him in seventh grade.

625
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: He had my attention.

626
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: We came in as freshman and he sits us down

627
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 3: on this mat where I've seen numerous guys throw up

628
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: from off season workouts, and he tells me, tells all

629
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: of us, it's either my way or I'm going to

630
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: get you out of here, and if you want to play,

631
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: you adapt. And I wish things were that more so

632
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: that way. In today's world, you can't even talk to

633
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: kids like that, And nowadays he'd run you off for

634
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: ear rings and things of that sort. And it was

635
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: just he I think I forget the number that he

636
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: told me in his first class that he had there,

637
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: but by the time it may have been seventy something players,

638
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: and by the time they got out of camp and

639
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: off season and he had twenty two. They went both

640
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: ways and they were competitive, But that's the individual he was.

641
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: So a lot of how I am is because of

642
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: how he was and how I got it from him.

643
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: He was tough, that's the way I coached. But he

644
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: was fair and he always let you know up front

645
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: what his expectations were. And so when coaches coach that

646
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: way and they tell you and they're honest with you,

647
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: and they're upfront with you. You can deal with it

648
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: because now you know. Now I've got the blueprint, I

649
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: know what I need to go do. But when you're dishonest,

650
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: that's when players don't trust you and you have a

651
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: lot of animosity in the locker room. But that was

652
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: never that way for me, Dickinson, the way things turned out,

653
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: I would not change one thing about how I grew up, how.

654
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: I played, how we won our lost games.

655
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: It was an experience and I think you win, you

656
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: gain more from losing, and you learn more from losing

657
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: than you ever will winning because you won't change if

658
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: you're winning.

659
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I'm on the outside looking in,

660
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: but my sons have played against Dickinson, and I believe

661
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: this started with your coach. The culture he said, I've left.

662
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Every time we've played Dickinson, it's been multiple times thinking

663
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: God dog, their physicals, they play hard, they play hard,

664
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: they're physical and they battle. And as you're telling this story,

665
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I bet you that's where it started. And

666
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: he created that film. He kind of laid the groundwork

667
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: for that stuff. Coach Nelson is and here very close

668
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: to this day as well. Coach Nelson, I think is

669
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: the head of the High School Coaches Association and they

670
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: meet in San Antonio, I think every year. But uh,

671
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one of those things where if

672
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: you go down there to play a game, you're gonna

673
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: know you played in the football game.

674
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: And they're they're a little bigger and faster than we were.

675
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: But we were small, quick and tough, and that was

676
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: that was how we played.

677
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: So you played baseball, you played basketball too, right, So

678
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: you played all three sports and ran track and ran track, So.

679
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: I would I would run a track meet on a

680
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: Saturday morning and then that night go pitch.

681
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

682
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: And it's it's crazy in today's world with all this.

683
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: You know, you got to specialize in this specialization where

684
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: you got to get down to one sport and that's

685
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: the only one that you should. You should play. Every

686
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: sport helps the other. Track helps football, that's where you

687
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: gain your speed, right, Basketball helps with hand and eye coordination,

688
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. So it's it's uh, I think

689
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: it's a it's you're doing kids a disservice by not

690
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: allowing them to play everything. And then you get to

691
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: high school you figure out which one or two that

692
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: that you want to play or if you want to

693
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: keep doing what I did and played off play all

694
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: for do it?

695
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: Wow, well a baseball. You were really good at baseball

696
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: and you were drafted. Yeah, so take us through that.

697
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: How baseball works for you getting drafted and you didn't

698
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: consider it.

699
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I didn't even consider it because my mom said, hey,

700
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: you're going to college and it was a non It

701
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: was a it was non negotiable. But uh I could

702
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: throw it back then I could pitch.

703
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

704
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: I played in the district that had really talented players

705
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: in it. Randy Pryor went off to A and m

706
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: Kirk dressing door for ended up in the a's rotation.

707
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: And when we played Parland, both of them played at

708
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Pariland High School. When we played them, it was it

709
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 3: was it was packed a lot of scouts there. I

710
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: remember the scout from the Dodgers at the time telling

711
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: me that I'd run the fastest time from home to

712
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: first that he timed at that point. And so baseball

713
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: was my grandfather. If he God bless his soul, he

714
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: would tell you to this day that he thought it

715
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: would be baseball that I would play professionally.

716
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Not football.

717
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: And I think football became one of those things where

718
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to play quarterback. I knew that it didn't

719
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: have a long life, a lifeline, but I wanted to

720
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: play it anyway. And so when I was a youngster

721
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: in seventh grade, I loud talked my way into basically

722
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: a tryout outside the coach's office. I said, God, I

723
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: wish he would let me play quarterback, just to give

724
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: me a shot.

725
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: And he heard me.

726
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Coach Holmes heard me, and so the next day at

727
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: practice he asked me to stay after and I was

728
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: just like, oh damn, he's getting ready. He heard me,

729
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: all right, he's getting ready to run me to death.

730
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: He just wanted to see me throw. And after that

731
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: he moved me to quarterback. That was kind of the

732
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: real Yeah. But I was set to play at U

733
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: of H. I broke my arm my freshman year, so

734
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: obviously I had to get I was there to play football.

735
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: I had to get my spot back and went through

736
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: the spring rather than playing baseball that spring.

737
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you that, obviously, we grew up in

738
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: two different areas. I grew up in San Antonio, you're

739
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: in Dickinson. But like you, I'm a multiple sport guy,

740
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: track basketball, But baseball was never even on my radar,

741
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: so like, how was it introduced to you? And you know,

742
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this controversial, but.

743
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: I always loved it.

744
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: We played what was it stickball or whatever with a

745
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: tennis ball and a bat and growing up and I

746
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: loved it so much that I would talk guys into

747
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: playing me two on one where you had one base

748
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: and I tried. You know, if I got them out,

749
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: I would bat. You know, I would never get out

750
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: because they couldn't catch me. And it just became a

751
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: love when I was For me at about the age

752
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: of eight, when I started playing, and my grandparents would

753
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: take me to games for practice. I had two coaches

754
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: that would pick me up, Jim and Matt Acre, where

755
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: my little league baseball coaches. My second year, they moved

756
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: me up. We had a it was a tear system,

757
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: the American Texas and National League. I went from the

758
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: American League playing my first year on the machine to

759
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: the National League where you just skip right over the

760
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: league and you're in the best of the best, and

761
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: I played in that league for three straight years. That's

762
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: where my taste for baseball came from. And they would

763
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: put me on the back of a truck, pick me up,

764
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 3: take me to practice, put me on that same truck,

765
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: bring me back home. I jump off, thank them, and

766
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: do the same thing the next day. And so that's

767
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: why to this day, if kids need a ride that

768
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: play for me, what's it called, I reciprocate, I pay

769
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: it forward, I go back and uh And hopefully they

770
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: will do the same thing for some kid once they

771
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: become coaches or they're influential in a kid's life. But

772
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: that's how that's why I do it, and that's where

773
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: why I do some of the things I do for

774
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: the kids that play.

775
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: For you brought up a memory we don't see. I

776
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: used to have a coach, Coach Washington, pick us up

777
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: for a track and we had like eight people on

778
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the back of a pickup going across town and and

779
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: we didn't even think about it.

780
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: But I've never seen that.

781
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: You get a big ticket as long as you put together. Yeah,

782
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 3: oh yeah, if somebody's riding in the back.

783
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: But it was so.

784
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Normal back then, like people literally they'll be like eight

785
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: of us in the back of a pick up.

786
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: All the time. A truck.

787
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to Galveston, we jump in the back you're

788
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: riding next to us a police officer way back and

789
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: keep going.

790
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: So I wonder when, I wonder when I'll google this

791
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: after the show, when it became a law that you

792
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: couldn't do it, because that was just the norm. It

793
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I got a pick up so I

794
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: could take ten people. Okay, eight of y'all are fitting

795
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: in the back.

796
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I put on a seatbelt till I

797
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: was twenty five. You know, I.

798
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: Probably still My son is reminded that.

799
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I know I know exactly how many

800
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: times it will do it and how long it actually

801
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 3: does it ten seconds, and then once it stops, it'll

802
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: it's ten seconds off. Then it'll come back. After about

803
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: four times of that, it's it'll shut off. So I

804
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: just have to get through the first four four dans.

805
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: Now I feel naked without it, though, it's like I

806
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: got to put it out.

807
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's strange.

808
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: We talked about dre playing baseball. Mark, have you ever

809
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: called baseball games?

810
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

811
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: I have when I for me and I became a

812
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: big baseball fan maybe eight years ago, when I had

813
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: my radio show and I read Joe Morgan's book Baseball

814
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: for dummies, and once I learned about the games within

815
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: the game, I really appreciated it.

816
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: So you tell me you're an Astros front runner.

817
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: So when I listened to the games on the radio,

818
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: I love how they're just literally having a conversation, like, really,

819
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: is it tougher? Is it easier calling baseball versus football?

820
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot harder in many ways. I

821
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 4: love calling a lot.

822
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: Of field time, a lot of between pitches, between that bats.

823
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: I've never done Major League. Okay, I did the Hurricane.

824
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: We won the National Championship in OH one. I was

825
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: able to call those games. And college is different because

826
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: it feels like every count goes full, you know, And

827
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: the plink of the aluminum bat. It's not as romantic

828
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 4: a radio sport as Major League Baseball.

829
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: The wooden bat.

830
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: The sound of the wooden bat versus plink of the

831
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: aluminum bat just changes the dynamics of that being a

832
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: radio sport. Now, you're right, it is a big conversation

833
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: and a lot of nothing happens, but then all of

834
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: a sudden, all hell breaks loose. Baseball's where all of

835
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 4: a sudden, the ball's over here, and it's the one

836
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: sport where as the announcer you have to take your

837
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: eye off the ball. Every other sport that I call,

838
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: you cannot take your eye off the ball. But baseball

839
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: you have to look who's rounding third? Here comes the throw?

840
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: Are they gonna you know, you have to look at

841
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 4: what's happening with the dynamics. And it's it's weird for

842
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: me because I didn't grow up playing it or watching it.

843
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: So a long story there, so it's not for a

844
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: lot of guys. It's part of their DNA. It's really

845
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: the Shakespeare of radio sports. I mean, it is a.

846
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: Great radio sports storyteller.

847
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I love Andy.

848
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: There's nothing like being on the air with this guy

849
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 4: on a Sunday afternoon, and it's just it feels like war,

850
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: you know. There it is, it's the battle, and everything

851
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 4: is fever pitch, Oh.

852
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 5: My gosh, lives hang in the balance. It's huge.

853
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: I can't shake that feeling. It's too big to ignore,

854
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: you know. And even though we only get to do

855
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: twenty of them a year, plus playoffs preferably, it just

856
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 4: feels like there's no way I would drop that. There's

857
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: no way I would let the event of the NFL

858
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: Weekly Game go away.

859
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: It's just too big, it's too good.

860
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I think I've told you this before, Mark, but I

861
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: haven't told Andre. And we all know teenagers are in

862
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: their own world. But one day we're driving back, so

863
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: we're listening to y'all during the Texan game, and my

864
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: teenage son said, man, just out of the blue, Man,

865
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: they do a good job. I feel like I'm seeing

866
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the game.

867
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow. And I said, oh wow, like you actually

868
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: said something profound. Yeah, exactly.

869
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, no doubt, because you know it. In radio,

870
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: all you're trying to do is paint the picture. Yeah,

871
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: And it's the it's the why it happened. From my aspect,

872
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: He's the setup guy, and I'm there to tell why

873
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: certain things happen and when they happen. And it's been

874
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: a great twenty three year between us and I look

875
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: look forward to another. You can be around twenty three

876
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: more years.

877
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, let's do it.

878
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 4: Wheel, I'm I'm going out on a gurdy.

879
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on the one of those little things with wheels.

880
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: And to give me, to give me to the elevator.

881
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: I like it it to like, I'll tell you what's

882
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: going on and then Trey's just gonna fill in all

883
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: the like if it's a painting, I'm just got I've

884
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: got the pencil, sketch and he's gonna paint brush all

885
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: the colors in there and make it pretty and tell you,

886
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: you know, show you exactly how it is. And uh,

887
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: and that's our goal, you know. But we've always I

888
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: think we had chemistry from the very beginning, and it's

889
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: only you know, it's years that we're like an old

890
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: married couple. Now it's like I know, okay, you go ahead,

891
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: I'll go ahead.

892
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: It's just it's a great way.

893
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: Every blue moon, I'll step on it.

894
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: But I knew right away that to kind of stay

895
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: in my lane, you know, figure figure out his voice

896
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: inflections and when he's wrapping up. And that's the thing

897
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: about a relationship like like this and working with a

898
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: guy for a long time, you got to kind of

899
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: figure out what he does, what he likes to do

900
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: when he's gonna rap his thoughts before you get dive

901
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: right in. And a lot of guys get excited and

902
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: caught up in the game and all of a sudden

903
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: you hear him stepping on each other all the time.

904
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: But we've never had really had that problem. I've done

905
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: it in excite out of excitement a couple of times.

906
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: But I do like it when he adds something though,

907
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: like that, like put it back of the trunk.

908
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: Last right around this, Remember, I mean, it's good.

909
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: It's good here Dred the very first touchdown in Texans history,

910
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 4: David Carter, Billy Miller.

911
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: You hear Drago like he just he does.

912
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: He makes a sound and there's something beautiful about that,

913
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: the emotion of it. And this week mixing runs for

914
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: the first down and Dre's like ballgame.

915
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: And it's just perfect.

916
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 4: You know, that little accent, you know, it's just I

917
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: look at the aesthetics of this whole thing.

918
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, coming up next, we're going to talk

919
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: about the Houston Texans the bye week, and we have

920
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: a lot going on before we could get into the playoffs,

921
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Leave it right here. Welcome in,

922
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Texans, All Access Players Edition. I am Indi Kalu.

923
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: He is Andre Ware, the Heisman winner and the voice

924
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans, Mark Vandermier. All Right, we've been

925
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: chopping it up talking all things under the sun, but

926
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Speaker 1: this is Texans all Access. The Texans have a bye week,

927
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Speaker 1: but when they get back to the grind, they have

928
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: a tough schedule.

929
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: They have a tough road to get to the playoffs.

930
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 4: Thoughts on that, what do you think, Drey, Because the

931
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: three games in ten days, that is tough and they're

932
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 4: all kind of talking about that. Yeah, they know what's coming,

933
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: so it's good to have some rest before that.

934
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: Definitely, I think it kind of hit. So you want

935
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: the you prefer the bye week to be a little

936
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: bit earlier. But I think for the Texans where this

937
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: schedule with Miami, Case, Baltimore, Tennessee all coming up, it

938
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: kind of falls at the right time where you're kind

939
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: of getting some players back back in healthy. Man, it's

940
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: gonna hurt with with a Z's out for these next

941
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: three because a lot of these games they've got good brunners.

942
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Yea Miami fast quick.

943
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: He knows where he's so special is in film study,

944
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 3: where just formationally he knows where he's going, where they're going.

945
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: A lot of tales that he picks up on. Those

946
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: are things that you know, fans kind of miss out

947
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: on in terms of what a guy means to a team.

948
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: But he would certainly help in those instances to a

949
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: coming back. He's back and healthy. They've got some speed

950
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: that obviously gonna it's gonna be tough to deal with

951
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: on this surface here. It'll be tough. Those these next

952
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: four will be tough. And a team that you've already

953
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: played in their one one divisional game left against Tennessee

954
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: and that's the team that that that beat us here

955
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: two weeks ago.

956
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,959
Speaker 4: That's tough. The last game of the season is them.

957
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: And I hope that you don't need a place. Yeah,

958
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I hope it's meaningful in that maybe it

959
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: improves your seating, but I don't know about that.

960
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: I mean, i'd love it to be.

961
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: Hey, you can't help yourself one way or another, so

962
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: maybe you can rest some guys that what.

963
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: What are the Dolphins sitting at record wise? Yeah, they're

964
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: five and the Jets not completely out of it.

965
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: I mean, oh no, if they beat the Jets, they're

966
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: gonna feel like, hey, we got a shot now. They

967
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: were rooting for the Browns last night, as were a

968
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: lot of people.

969
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 5: And by the way, I love Jamis.

970
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: I know he threw picks last night, but he's a

971
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: walking entertainment complex.

972
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: The guy.

973
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: You have no idea what he's going to say, and

974
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: you have no idea what what you're gonna get from

975
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: week to week with him.

976
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: But when he is on, oh my goodness, he's on.

977
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: He was lighting it up last.

978
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: Night, and I think the whole world was rooty for him.

979
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: You know.

980
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: It's because when four was playing, that was a whole

981
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: other dynamic up there. Now you got Jamis playing for them,

982
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: It's like, come on, Cleveland, They're back to being the

983
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 4: lovable loser Browns. You know, let's do something tonight and

984
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: upset Sean Payton talk.

985
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: About a franchise with some tough decisions to make next year.

986
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: Because of some dumb decisions. Yeah, you know, I don't

987
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: want to get too far into it, but I never

988
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: understood that signing and this wasn't a knock. And this

989
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: doesn't even have anything to do with what Deshaun Watson

990
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: did off the field, but the money that they guaranteed.

991
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: Him that to me already sat out.

992
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: I didn't understand that, and at that position is hard

993
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: to get it back. And then he gets injured and

994
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: so he's sitting again, and then he comes back to

995
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: start the season and he gets injured again. Yeah, and so

996
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: that's what like almost three years of just not playing

997
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: and now you're just straight up rehabbing, timing, all of

998
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: that is. It's going to be tough to get back.

999
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: But I root for Jamis. I want to see, well,

1000
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: I think you know last night and this stretch of

1001
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: games that he's played for Cleveland, he'll be He's only

1002
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: signed a one year deal.

1003
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: He'll be in somebody's camp next year.

1004
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, he'll be.

1005
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: But as far as the Texans, this is a tough finish.

1006
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: It's the breaks at the right time, buys at the

1007
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: right time. Miami still got a chance. Everybody on there,

1008
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: with the exception of Tennessee and those last four games

1009
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: that we talked about, has a chance and are kind

1010
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: of in pole position for where they want to be

1011
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: when the playoffs start.

1012
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: The Christmas Day game on a Wednesday, it is going

1013
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: to be huge. That is a tough ticket everybody. I

1014
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: thought it was brilliant of the league in many ways

1015
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 4: to want to play on Christmas. We'll see how it

1016
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: works out in reality, because you have it's not a

1017
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: super short week, but you have the Miami game then

1018
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: six days to get ready for a Saturday tilt with

1019
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: Kansas City and then the four days for the Baltimore Ravens.

1020
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: That is a tight, tight amount of time and they're

1021
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: gonna have to handle that careful.

1022
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: The by just got wasted with all the just explained.

1023
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't realize that. But I guess as far

1024
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: as time off, it's equivalent to playing a Thursday night

1025
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: game since the game before Saturday.

1026
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: But it's a Thursday night on a after a short

1027
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: week to get ready for your game right before the

1028
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: Thursday night, So it would be like Monday night, Sunday

1029
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: and then Thursday.

1030
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: That's what it's like.

1031
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if they

1032
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: don't put the pads on at all during the week.

1033
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm talking about for the remaining for the

1034
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: remaining of the schedule.

1035
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1036
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: You gotta know the kind of the temperature of your

1037
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: team and things of that sort, and you know if

1038
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: you're healthy enough or if you're not. If you're not,

1039
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 3: you're certainly not padding up, no doubt.

1040
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're not gonna pad up, but we'll

1041
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: keep the mics in front of us. For these Texans

1042
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Speaker 1: All Access shows. This has been the Player's Edition. Big

1043
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: thank you to the Heisman Trophy winner Andre Ware for

1044
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: mark i'm indi kalu. This has been Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: Players Edition