Speaker 1: Huh, check it down Man Now Down Now Monday, The
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Speaker 1: Chris Andrews from Los Angeles this morning, the director of
Speaker 1: the South Point Hotel Casinos sports book. He's with us
Speaker 1: as always it is rightful place where he belongs. We
Speaker 1: go through the process, the design to gain an edge
Speaker 1: and a first look of upcoming NFL lines for the
Speaker 1: forthcoming week. Week three in the National Football League and
Speaker 1: as I didn't know what the outset but later found
Speaker 1: out when we recorded it this morning, one of the
Speaker 1: biggest spreads of all time. We talk about its historical
Speaker 1: place as well. Included in today's episode, Week three Guessing
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Speaker 1: host Kill Alexander. It is a numbers game. As I
Speaker 1: step on Charles Barklay to start the week. One of
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Speaker 1: John Brown, as he does now on Guessing Lines, what's happening, man?
Speaker 1: How are you? Good morning, Gill. I'm doing well. How
Speaker 1: are you? Uh? Good NFL weekend? Little little three and
Speaker 1: two in the contests. You know, just that Steelers got
Speaker 1: me wasn't really the big ben injury that got me.
Speaker 1: It was just a bad call. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1: What was the other one that got me early as well? Uh?
Speaker 1: Now it's let me my mind. But somebody got me
Speaker 1: early as well. Oh yes, the Minnesota Vikings. I got
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. And every Redskin fan can looks at that
Speaker 1: game yesterday and just shakes their head and goes, yep,
Speaker 1: that's what they paid eighty four million. We could have
Speaker 1: four that we could have told you about this. Yeah
Speaker 1: that that that one got me too. We were talking
Speaker 1: about that game last week. Definitely the Vikings got me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good weekend for you though, ultimately pultimately Yeah. So I've
Speaker 1: still got one entry left alive and last man standing.
Speaker 1: And that's why I put it on the stale line
Speaker 1: for the Browns tonight because they're offering two and a half.
Speaker 1: That's um. Yeah. And then uh, and then let's see
Speaker 1: what else did I had to I took the under
Speaker 1: in the Dolphins game, and then that just squeaked out
Speaker 1: the under there since they didn't score. And then let's see,
Speaker 1: I had the end play under in the Chargers game,
Speaker 1: which which was a dream for sure. Well, you know
Speaker 1: what we do on Monday's here every Monday. We've done
Speaker 1: it on the podcast side for many years, the Beating
Speaker 1: the Book podcast, and we do it right here on
Speaker 1: the Numbers game at Visa Mondays during football season, and
Speaker 1: last week it was the or of the show after
Speaker 1: being with us a sort of a spotty fashion last
Speaker 1: year for obvious reasons. The Ladies and Gentlemen from Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: California is the sports book director of the South Point
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Speaker 1: miss book of Chrissy Andrews. Good morning, Chris. How are
Speaker 1: you doing pretty good? Yea, thank you? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing? How was your How was the weekend? From
Speaker 1: a book perspective? How do you guys end up faring? Uh?
Speaker 1: Saturday was not good. A lot of big favorites one,
Speaker 1: a lot of steam plays one. So Saturday we're definitely
Speaker 1: licking our wounds at the end of the night. I
Speaker 1: remember we made it really nice comeback yesterday, And it
Speaker 1: really is one of those things where when I look
Speaker 1: down the schedule, I'm not sure we would won all
Speaker 1: the money that you know, it was one of those
Speaker 1: weeks where like the late games really helped us. Usually
Speaker 1: the late games because you just have so much of
Speaker 1: your actions funneling into the late games, you can win
Speaker 1: a little and lose a lot. But yesterday when we
Speaker 1: we won pretty good on the three afternoon games and
Speaker 1: then of course the night game, well it turned out
Speaker 1: very good first two, so we wound up having a
Speaker 1: hell of a day. So my my headlines for the weekend,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into every single game for next week,
Speaker 1: and then in that process we'll talk about these these
Speaker 1: games from yesterday in the National Football League. Um, while
Speaker 1: we do that, the idea here is for me to
Speaker 1: come up with the line that I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be. What the actual line is that Chris is
Speaker 1: gonna put up here at South Point Hotel Casino. It's
Speaker 1: a tribute to the old star in US radio show
Speaker 1: back in the day with Roxy Roxborough, And in that
Speaker 1: process try to seek at edge and one of the
Speaker 1: things that we say is, uh, you know, look, don't
Speaker 1: hold us to what the reaction was, because I had
Speaker 1: four of them last week New England. At the time
Speaker 1: of this show. I guessed seventeen and a half. You
Speaker 1: said sixteen and a half, and I'm like, well, give
Speaker 1: me that all day long, and not only did it
Speaker 1: come to me and went through me, so by the
Speaker 1: end of the week that wasn't to play for me,
Speaker 1: which it had been, by the way, and then another
Speaker 1: one Minnesota was one, Atlanta was one. The other one
Speaker 1: was washing it. And so just a reminder for people.
Speaker 1: Stuff happens during the week. So in the end the
Speaker 1: Redskins lost. This is all during the week. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be no Darius guys. There's gonna be no Jordan Reed,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be no Quenton Dunbar, there's gonna be no
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen. By the time that came up, you couldn't
Speaker 1: play the Redskins. So just keep in mind this is
Speaker 1: our first reaction to things, but the headlines for me
Speaker 1: before we get into these game by game Christie, I'm
Speaker 1: curious what your thoughts were in this. This seems to
Speaker 1: be the NFL so mired by flags at this point
Speaker 1: that when I look up and down the slate yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh and on Thursday, twelve out of fifteen went under.
Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Twelve out of fifteen. I
Speaker 1: believe two hundred yeah two d helped us of quite
Speaker 1: a bit too. Yeah yeah, I'm sure it did, right
Speaker 1: from your perspective, because obviously the casual better is wired
Speaker 1: for the over two hundred and thirty five penalties called.
Speaker 1: I counted those are the accepted penalties throughout the National
Speaker 1: Football League. That's crazy, and so I wonder if there
Speaker 1: is a there's an angle in that, if they're going
Speaker 1: to really hold steadfast calling these holding penalties, maybe the
Speaker 1: under parade is just beginning interesting because usually we're looking
Speaker 1: at the pass in interferance penalities and peking it. That
Speaker 1: was a great benefit of the offense. I still think
Speaker 1: that kind of is. But you're right. I mean, actually
Speaker 1: who it was and four holding penalties in the first
Speaker 1: quarter in st I can't remember exactly what game was.
Speaker 1: But it's funny how guys like us, you know, you
Speaker 1: intend to just uh get used to things I would say,
Speaker 1: and uh, naturally I'm here in l A. I'm not
Speaker 1: in a sports book, and I only have the red
Speaker 1: zone channel on well, I have others, but we just
Speaker 1: my wife and I we sit there and watched the
Speaker 1: red Zone channel. But she said it, Yester Sae, good boy,
Speaker 1: he has a penalty on every play, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it's one of those things like I said, well,
Speaker 1: we just kind of come from me and I can
Speaker 1: only speak for myself, like it come to kind of
Speaker 1: accept it. Yeah, there's just you know, flag flag flag
Speaker 1: every play, and uh, you know, really interrupts the flow
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh, you know from a player's perspective,
Speaker 1: but also from from the audience perspective too. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know which way they're going. I
Speaker 1: mean we've you know, still kind of early in the season,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, you're right right now the the holding
Speaker 1: penalties are ridiculous or how many they call, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know last year was in a pass in their
Speaker 1: payments and of course now we had one pass interference
Speaker 1: call that they missed last year and then the whole
Speaker 1: league changed, you know. So I mean, right now they're
Speaker 1: doing a lot to destroy their product. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that, but you know, when you
Speaker 1: look back at Mark Cuban thinks that they've done a
Speaker 1: lot to hurt their product and nearly pretty smart guy,
Speaker 1: but right now they've got to do something to really
Speaker 1: help the flow of the game. And some of the
Speaker 1: calls on this are just ridiculous. And I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: get to the Bears and Broncos at some point because
Speaker 1: that's roughing the passer County was just awful. And really,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a game, you know, you when we
Speaker 1: had sixteen them, you know, and and it gave one
Speaker 1: team a win and the other team a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, like I said, one out of sixteen,
Speaker 1: that's pretty big percentage. You know, it's really a horrible
Speaker 1: call that set that up. Bradley Chubb flagged for playing football.
Speaker 1: It's basically when it comes to when it came down to, yeah,
Speaker 1: the other two headlines and get into all this here
Speaker 1: as we because we gotta jump in here. There's so
Speaker 1: many games to get to with nobody on buys Um.
Speaker 1: You brought up Denver going it for for two down
Speaker 1: one late to try to win it. That's a whole thing.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the details of that. Uh, Jacksonville did
Speaker 1: the same. Since two thousand one, teams are eight of
Speaker 1: nineteen when going for two down one in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: We had two instances of that yesterday. Could that perhaps
Speaker 1: be something that will rear its head more often? And
Speaker 1: then the quarterback injuries Big Ben and Breeze, Ben roethls
Speaker 1: Ben Raethlesberger, Drew Brees, respectively for the Steelers and the Saints.
Speaker 1: You know, we shall see. We don't know what their
Speaker 1: status is as we do this this morning, so that
Speaker 1: could be too, obviously staple names in the National Football
Speaker 1: League that we may not see for a while. We'll
Speaker 1: find out what the results are that. But let's start
Speaker 1: with Thursday, because we have the full slate here. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: give me the Thursday match of Good Lord you you
Speaker 1: weren't here when we talked about this on Friday, but
Speaker 1: I just did a whole segment on that last Carolina
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Drive and all the Shenanigans of that drive.
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football just looking like it's uh a tough
Speaker 1: watch each and every year, and that certainly was, and
Speaker 1: we got this week on Thursday. First of all, I've
Speaker 1: been knocking the Thursday games forever. I can't stand them
Speaker 1: though they're horribly played, and uh, I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: the TV ratings are fantastic, But but the product on
Speaker 1: the fields. Anyway, We've got Tennessee at Jacksonville. Another barn
Speaker 1: burner right right out of the gates. Um, by the way,
Speaker 1: you could just throw up. I mean, I guess Jacksonville's
Speaker 1: probably the team with Gardner Minshew. We don't really know
Speaker 1: truly what we're getting from him. So maybe maybe don't
Speaker 1: throw them into this group. Maybe possibly yes, But the
Speaker 1: other three teams just throw them up in the air. Um.
Speaker 1: Although I have an opinion about Indian Apples. I think
Speaker 1: Indian Apples might be the best team in the end.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Tennessee at Jacksonville, Tennessee coming off
Speaker 1: a loss to the Colts. The afore mentioned Colts could
Speaker 1: have gone either way. Colts get a touchdown t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton with four thirty eight left that stood led the
Speaker 1: Colts to a nineteen seventeen victory Titans home opener. Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck had beaten the Titans eleven straight times, all eleven
Speaker 1: times he faced them. Jacoby Proscette picks up where Luck
Speaker 1: left off, and then Jacksonville loses to Houston as big dogs,
Speaker 1: a game they covered and could have won. Minshew twenty
Speaker 1: three or thirty three two thirteen, one touchdown, not pick
Speaker 1: sacked four times, but the penalties and I'll just mention
Speaker 1: this with every team nine penalties for the Jags seventy yards,
Speaker 1: Houston led by seven, and the fourth quarter Minshew long drive,
Speaker 1: first real sustained drive of the game capped got converted
Speaker 1: a fourth and ten captain with the four yard touchdown
Speaker 1: past the DJ Shark, and then instead of trying to
Speaker 1: tie with the extra point, Doug Marone opts to go
Speaker 1: for the potential win by having Leonard Fournette attempt to
Speaker 1: run it for the two point conversion. He is stopped
Speaker 1: by Justin Reid. Thirteen twelve. It's upheld by video. Thirteen twelve.
Speaker 1: Texans winn it uh. Jacks were without four starters, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a j Boullier receiver, Marquis lead defense ven
Speaker 1: Yannick uh NAGAKUI wasn't there left tackle Cam Robinson, so
Speaker 1: they were banged up. And then Jalen Ramsey got into
Speaker 1: it with Doug Moron on the sidelines, And when we
Speaker 1: asked Doug Maron about it afterwards, he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I can't call I don't know. What it
Speaker 1: was about. So that was that all of that to
Speaker 1: say this is this is a coin flip to me,
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville. It's probably a pick um, right, Tennessee
Speaker 1: a slight favorite. I see is low as one and
Speaker 1: a half and is two and a half. I won't
Speaker 1: were right in the middle with a two, which I
Speaker 1: think is a decent number. You know, I think the
Speaker 1: Gardner Mishue train maybe have had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a slow down here. It looked good, he didn't. They
Speaker 1: certainly didn't look great. I mean when they put up
Speaker 1: twelve points in the game, you know, so, I mean
Speaker 1: they looked he looked all right. The rest of the
Speaker 1: team I think, really is hurting a little bit in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Other Tennessee is any great shakes, There's certainly not. But
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee does deserve to be a very slight favorite.
Speaker 1: Although I guess home teams have been pretty strong on
Speaker 1: these Thursday nights. But the tendency a slight edge, I mean,
Speaker 1: two is a pretty good opening number. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go in. Yeah, that's such a that's such a
Speaker 1: non pre flop game. That's the wait and see live
Speaker 1: better kind of thing I think, um not very good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know you're not too crazy
Speaker 1: about Mario, and I think kind of the league is
Speaker 1: caught up to you on that really, but uh, you
Speaker 1: know the gardener Michu and then all the injuries you
Speaker 1: mentioned with Jackson Yale, and they're a little bit on
Speaker 1: the ropes right now. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: big game for them that they need to win. But
Speaker 1: I gotta say this about Mike Grabel really like them.
Speaker 1: I think he's coming along a pretty good as the
Speaker 1: head coach, and I think, uh, I think the future
Speaker 1: is probably pretty good for Tennessee. Was Grabel at the Helm?
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more. Let's do Let's go
Speaker 1: to Sunday morning. Let's start there Sunday morning. Pretty decent
Speaker 1: game here, Denver at green Bay, Denver at green Bay.
Speaker 1: Well we got right to the teams that went for
Speaker 1: two down one in the fourth quarter right off the bat.
Speaker 1: That closing sequence for the Broncos yesterday against the Bears.
Speaker 1: My goodness, Uh, Denver scores to come within one, they
Speaker 1: decide Vic Fangio decides go for two. Let me just say,
Speaker 1: in both the case of Doug Morone and Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1: I kind of like both plays. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people like, just kick the extra point time, but
Speaker 1: I thought jackson Yeah, Jacksonville and Denver's all fences were
Speaker 1: so inept in both cases, why not just trying to
Speaker 1: put this out when you have the one opportunity you
Speaker 1: might get and in Denver's case get flagged for a
Speaker 1: delay of game that pushes it back. So Fangio was like,
Speaker 1: and correctly, So I was like, all right, well now
Speaker 1: we're just gonna kick the extra point that goes wide,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, okay, Chicago wins the game and Denver
Speaker 1: betters rejoice because you get the one point loss. Noope,
Speaker 1: penalty on Denver off sides. Uh. Then it brings it
Speaker 1: forward and you're like, okay, they're gonna go for two again.
Speaker 1: They convert the two first of all, was a Flacco
Speaker 1: to Sanders pass in the corner of the end zone
Speaker 1: the game, the touchdown knee perfectly inbounds in the corner
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Then just past the goal line,
Speaker 1: the two point conversion is made. Denver goes up a point,
Speaker 1: and then that's the sequence you were talking about. Chicago
Speaker 1: gets the ball back, there's a roughing the passer, just
Speaker 1: absolutely brutal roughing the passer. Call on Bradley chub Garbage,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, and it put the Bears in business at
Speaker 1: the Broncos forty five right out of the shoot. What
Speaker 1: people will forget after that, though, Chrissie, is that there
Speaker 1: were three in completions consecutively after that. So because there's
Speaker 1: a twelve men in the huddle call to on the Bears,
Speaker 1: if you recall, so they ended up having a fourth
Speaker 1: and fifteen from their own forty with nine seconds left,
Speaker 1: and that's when Shrabiskie hits Allen Robinson. He drops to
Speaker 1: the ground. Was there a second left? Was there not?
Speaker 1: I thought there was? Turns out there was. The refs
Speaker 1: give the second and then Eddie Pinero kicks a fifty
Speaker 1: three yard or to give the Bears a sixteen to
Speaker 1: fourteen win over the Broncos and Vic Fangio once again
Speaker 1: to his knees. A man with a Fannie pack walking
Speaker 1: around a museum with his two hands classed behind his
Speaker 1: hand behind his back, walking for painting and painting um
Speaker 1: by the way, ten penalties for the Broncos eighty one yards.
Speaker 1: They were another team, their left tackle Garrett bulls Uh,
Speaker 1: he was their top draft pick in seventeen, whistled for
Speaker 1: holding a career worst four times. That gives him an
Speaker 1: the game I was thinking about, Okay, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: my facts a little bit confused. But he got a
Speaker 1: call for four holden pounds. I remember that. Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, that's the thirty four flags for
Speaker 1: him in thirty four career starts. That's an NFL high.
Speaker 1: And then there's green Bay. Green Bay probably should have
Speaker 1: lost that game in Minnesota. They got a twenty one
Speaker 1: nothing lead. Maybe they it's hard to say should have,
Speaker 1: but they certainly. If you're a green Bay backer, you
Speaker 1: had to feel fortunate at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: The Cousins threw a pick late to preserve that win
Speaker 1: and cover for green Bay. But it's green Bay at
Speaker 1: home against Denver. I would imagine green Bay's I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Air Flacco, Joe Flacco is not scared at anybody here.
Speaker 1: So I'd say green Bay minus six, and maybe I'm low.
Speaker 1: I'll say six. You're a little low. I see seven
Speaker 1: and a half an eight. I know with you. I
Speaker 1: think I know you know, and I've been in a vacuum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that opened this seven. You know, say what
Speaker 1: you want about flack On I Alwa's not great. I
Speaker 1: understand that he started this whole elite thing, you know,
Speaker 1: which drives me crazy now. But he is Joe cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see him on that last drive, and
Speaker 1: you know, they certainly didn't have much success during the
Speaker 1: course of the game, but he doesn't even get flustered.
Speaker 1: You know, he had that team hanging in there till
Speaker 1: the end and they I think he should have won
Speaker 1: the game. I personally don't think there was one second
Speaker 1: lesson on the clock, but you know, it's just the
Speaker 1: way it goes. But I think that you know, he's
Speaker 1: not bad. He is very cool. The Denver defense is
Speaker 1: pretty good. They played well yesterday. They didn't play so
Speaker 1: well the first game to see me, but I think
Speaker 1: they'll come together. I'm not sure that we've seen the
Speaker 1: best of it. I mean, I think we have seen
Speaker 1: the best of Aaron Rodgers in the past, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that he's all that good anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: is he good? Yeah, he's good. Is he's still like
Speaker 1: among the absolute best? Well, I guess what breed and
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger both might be out here. I guess he is.
Speaker 1: But I think that that great, great play that we're
Speaker 1: going to we've seen on Aaron Rodgers for a while now. Man,
Speaker 1: that might be kind of coming and bowing a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't have quite the faith in him that I did,
Speaker 1: let's say, two years ago, or even a year ago.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a little I'm an open
Speaker 1: seven and a half because I think about open seven,
Speaker 1: I'm just inviting a play on Green Bay. I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to do that quite yet, but I do see
Speaker 1: a lot of hates out there. I'm gonna open seven
Speaker 1: and a half. I hope they met me Green Bays.
Speaker 1: I don't mind going in needing Denver in this spot.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Denver keeps it close. Interesting. I
Speaker 1: like how you you anticipate what you anticipate and then
Speaker 1: have to uh behave accordingly. So seven and a half
Speaker 1: is where you're opening. You said seven and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, we're tying to make the
Speaker 1: exact the opening numbers in a vacuum. I think I
Speaker 1: would open this seventh. Don't have that much faith in
Speaker 1: green Bay at this point. Green Bay Aaron Jones twenty
Speaker 1: three carries a hundred sixty yards a touchdown to bante
Speaker 1: Adam seven catches one of six as they hold on
Speaker 1: and beat the Vikings yesterday after getting a twenty one
Speaker 1: and nothing lead, then holding on for dear life the
Speaker 1: rest of the way. We'll come back. Chrissie will do
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Speaker 1: next on a numbers game at Visa. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: a numbers game with kill Alexander back on the numbers game.
Speaker 1: Just like the man said, it's skill Alexander j B
Speaker 1: is then for producing number five. Jeff parl Lay today.
Speaker 1: Jeff Parlay for those who are wondering, um won't be
Speaker 1: here tomorrow. The reason he's not here tomorrow is because
Speaker 1: he had tickets and still has him And that's why
Speaker 1: I Adam pre planned. He's going to tonight's Monday night
Speaker 1: football game in New York, his beloved Jets taking on
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Uh. And that is the anniverse, not
Speaker 1: the anniversary, but it's sort of. It's the same matchup
Speaker 1: as the very first Monday night football matchup there ever
Speaker 1: was between the Jets and the Browns. Happened to be
Speaker 1: those two teams. Joe Willie Namath was playing quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Jets. It was seventy first two times these two
Speaker 1: teams have met since on that stage. They've met before
Speaker 1: many times in between, but the first time they've ever
Speaker 1: returned to the Monday night football stage this matchup the
Speaker 1: Jets and the Browns. Christie, before we get back into
Speaker 1: these games, do you remember where you were the first
Speaker 1: Monday night football game in nine and just try to
Speaker 1: if you could for us who do not remember such
Speaker 1: a thing. How big of an event was it? Like,
Speaker 1: how excited were you for this? Well? First of all, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember exactly where I was. It was at the
Speaker 1: three four Avenue l right where I grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: so I remember that well. But yeah, it was with
Speaker 1: you know, my uncle Jack and my dad and uh
Speaker 1: remember when the game started. Uh just by the end
Speaker 1: of the game, which you gotta remember was really late
Speaker 1: back East by the time I think finished. This is
Speaker 1: the greatest thing in the world. We've got this one
Speaker 1: isolated game, you know, because you know, in my household
Speaker 1: growing up, like on Saturdays and Sundays, we're all flipping
Speaker 1: around the radio and getting the scores and making phone calls,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're very rarely sat and just watched
Speaker 1: one game as it went on. So to do this,
Speaker 1: it was really kind of an event. And of course
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, the production and we might
Speaker 1: laugh at it now where are we to see it?
Speaker 1: But at the time it was fantastic. And of course
Speaker 1: you either loved or hated Howard Cosell and Keith Jackson
Speaker 1: was a play by play guy that first year, and
Speaker 1: I think Frank Gifford was one of the color guys
Speaker 1: him and the co sell, if I remember correctly, And uh,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was great. It was fantastic. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the exact outcome of the game, but I
Speaker 1: remember Bill Nelson being the quarterback for the Browns who
Speaker 1: was a former stealer, and uh, you know, it was just, uh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember too much other than that, just the
Speaker 1: fact that it was a terrific event that really caught
Speaker 1: our imagination and obviously the imagination of you know, the
Speaker 1: entire American public. So it's been going strong ever since then.
Speaker 1: And uh, it was just you know, one of those
Speaker 1: one of those things in life where you remember where
Speaker 1: you were, and I remember exactly where it was. It
Speaker 1: was September twenty one, nineteen seventy and Uh the Browns
Speaker 1: one at thirty one to twenty one. I believe is
Speaker 1: that the final score of that game. It seems like
Speaker 1: I scoring game, but that's what it was back in
Speaker 1: the day. Uh, tonight six and a half point favorites
Speaker 1: in favor of the Cleveland Browns. Who that was a
Speaker 1: bump from an opener of two and a half. The
Speaker 1: reason being Sam Donald's mono nucleosis. By the way, he's saying,
Speaker 1: he's feeling better already. And instead of Sam Donald will
Speaker 1: be Trevor Simeon going for the Jets tonight in their
Speaker 1: game against the Browns at home six and a half
Speaker 1: point home Dogs tonight Monday at football Chrissy, what's next
Speaker 1: for Week three? Next week? Next we have Detroit at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Detroit at Philadelphia. Detroit got it done somehow. Uh. They
Speaker 1: beat the l A Chargers yesterday, beat him by a
Speaker 1: score uh final score of well, let's see to ten
Speaker 1: and Lord knows the Chargers have their chances. We'll get
Speaker 1: to them when we get to the Chargers section of this.
Speaker 1: But Detroit is that Philly Philly coming off the loss
Speaker 1: last night. Carson Wentz is just fabulous. He got hurt
Speaker 1: in this game. He was getting brutalized by the Falcons,
Speaker 1: a lot of big hits. But he came back in
Speaker 1: the game game and they did their thing. The Eagles
Speaker 1: did converting a lot of third downs in this game
Speaker 1: last night, UH to stay in the ball game. UH.
Speaker 1: They had a curious play in the middle of it
Speaker 1: where um, first of all, in the first half, not
Speaker 1: only did Wentz have to leave the game and come back,
Speaker 1: but they lost all three of their wide receivers. The
Speaker 1: Eagles did a glare ended up coming back in, but
Speaker 1: the Shawn Jackson and all Sean Jeffrey had to leave
Speaker 1: the game. They lost their center, they lost their second
Speaker 1: tight end. UH. They were down seventeen to six. The
Speaker 1: Eagles were in this game, and then Doug Peterson decided
Speaker 1: instead of kicking a field goal to make it seventy
Speaker 1: to nine. I think it was fourth and goal at
Speaker 1: the four, I believe it was. He decides to go
Speaker 1: for it, and I'm I'm just like, what is he doing.
Speaker 1: Chris Collins where says it's absolutely the right decision, I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: wasn't Are we just basing this on the result that
Speaker 1: he actually got the touchdown? They don't end up getting
Speaker 1: the two point conversion, but they do take a lead
Speaker 1: late in the game, and then they a late Falcons
Speaker 1: fourth and three conversion that Julio Jones took the house.
Speaker 1: Is what ultimately sunk the Eagles, even though they matriculated,
Speaker 1: matriculated the ball down the field late and had a
Speaker 1: shot after converting a fourth and fourteen on the final drive.
Speaker 1: But they were nine of eighteen on third downs, Chrissie,
Speaker 1: which is what they did their Super Bowl year if
Speaker 1: you remember, they just were phenomenal on third downs. There
Speaker 1: were two of three on fourth downs. Didn't get it
Speaker 1: done last night. But there is no there's nothing about
Speaker 1: this team that doesn't lead me to believe that they
Speaker 1: could be super Bowl bound. Uh, they lose, Detroit wins
Speaker 1: and we'll get again. We'll get to the charges portion
Speaker 1: of it. With Detroit eight penalties seventy one yards, Matt
Speaker 1: Prateror missed an extra point. He also missed a forty
Speaker 1: yard field goal. I mean, the kicking around the league
Speaker 1: is just from big names too. But I think Philadelphia
Speaker 1: will be a pretty sizeable favorite here. I'll say six
Speaker 1: and a half at Philly. Well, you're a little light
Speaker 1: seven and a half, and I kind of agree with
Speaker 1: that number. You know, I look back at Detroit and
Speaker 1: they don't you know, Matthew Stafford and employee bad It
Speaker 1: look okay, but they have thirteen points in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't put up much. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you look back at that Philadelphia games last night,
Speaker 1: I mean, had or dropped a touchdown passed I went
Speaker 1: right through his hand on that last drive. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was incredible that he could drop that. So, you know,
Speaker 1: look at it, looking at it that very isolated way,
Speaker 1: you could say Philly should have won the game, you know,
Speaker 1: and I guess maybe they should have. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: Peterson was certainly embracing, embracing the analytics, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure going forward on that fourth and goal was the
Speaker 1: right play. I don't. I know that they made it,
Speaker 1: but at the time, I remember saying, I don't think
Speaker 1: this is right, you know, make or miss whatever. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, kicking a field goal and cutting at the
Speaker 1: eight I thought would have been the proper thing to do.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think Philadelphia, you know, I'm gonna assume
Speaker 1: they get some of these guys back. Uh, certainly at
Speaker 1: this point, I haven't heard otherwise, but I think seven
Speaker 1: halfs a good opening number for this one. Um that
Speaker 1: Detroit and I still got my questions about them, even
Speaker 1: though they you know, they pulled out win or did
Speaker 1: the Charges lose it? Which way did that go? I
Speaker 1: think the Chargers just have the habit of losing games
Speaker 1: like that. I think that's more what happened than Detroit actually,
Speaker 1: you know, going in there and winning that game. So
Speaker 1: I think seven has a pretty good place to start
Speaker 1: in this game. You're right about a galore. He did
Speaker 1: catch catch eight balls a hundred seven yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: but the potential go ahead score right through his hands
Speaker 1: with under two minutes left, streaky down the left sideline.
Speaker 1: Um he did. He was on the receiving end of
Speaker 1: the big fourth down conversion on that drive, but nothing
Speaker 1: made up for that looked like short touchdown. He said
Speaker 1: he lost it in the lights. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's the case or not, but that's what I happen
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia I'm sure again, what would Harry carry said?
Speaker 1: What should he play with a sombrero? Shy play with?
Speaker 1: I short on him another one. I went below seven,
Speaker 1: And you're saying it's seven and a half, so I
Speaker 1: came up short a couple of these. Let's do another
Speaker 1: one here. Okay, this is the game of the day.
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore at Kansas City, who undefeated teams here
Speaker 1: in the early going to two and oh teams. Baltimore
Speaker 1: did not exactly skate by the Cardinals yesterday. They end
Speaker 1: up winning by six to seventeen, falling well short, well
Speaker 1: short of the big spread in that game, which was thirteen.
Speaker 1: They end up winning twenty three to seventeen the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Let's just start there. By the way, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson was wonderful in this game. Like he's got seven
Speaker 1: touchdown passes already this year. I think what did he
Speaker 1: have last year? Let me see quick check on him.
Speaker 1: I think he's already exceeded his total from last year.
Speaker 1: And he's done so in two games. Obviously played Miami
Speaker 1: the first game and we'll get to the Dolphins, so
Speaker 1: that that's something um. But with the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs were held scoreless in the first quarter
Speaker 1: and they were held scoreless in the second half. They
Speaker 1: did have one touchdown a call back in the second half,
Speaker 1: but that second quarter was Doug Williams ESQ Chrissy from
Speaker 1: Super Bowl at the right side in that game. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you all that. Yeah yeah, oh, but you
Speaker 1: had the right side in the Super Bowl or yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, Lamari Jackson hundred twenty two yards rushing
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. UH threw over two or fifty yards
Speaker 1: in the same game. That's the most yards rushing ever
Speaker 1: for a quarterback who threw for over two fifty yards
Speaker 1: in the same game, a hundred twenty two according to
Speaker 1: ESPN Stats and Information. He was seven for two seventy two,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks, and the hundred twenty yards rushing.
Speaker 1: That after having a perfect rating last week against Miami.
Speaker 1: Seven touchdown passes a new single season career high through
Speaker 1: six in seven starts last season, Mark Andrews tight end
Speaker 1: was his big UH target eight for touchdown. Ten penalties
Speaker 1: though for the Ravens add to the penalty parade ten
Speaker 1: for sixty two. They possessed the ball for thirty seven
Speaker 1: minutes thirty eight seconds against the Cardinals, even though they
Speaker 1: only won by six. Back to Kansas City, Uh Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes thirty of forty four for four forty three four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks that second order uh. DeMarcus Robinson exploits a
Speaker 1: blown coverage forty four yard touchdown past first place second
Speaker 1: quarter Nicole Hardman rookie forty two yard deep strike first
Speaker 1: career catch to give them a fourteen ten Ly they
Speaker 1: spotted Oakland ten points. They never scored again. The Raiders
Speaker 1: then two more long touchdown passes in the final two
Speaker 1: minutes and a half twenty seven yard to Kelsey thirty
Speaker 1: nine yard or back to DeMarcus Robinson, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: six for one seventy two touchdowns from DeMarcus Robinson Kelsey
Speaker 1: seven for one oh seven and a touchdown. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: eight of fourteen on third downs. They too, ten penalties
Speaker 1: fourteen yards. The penalty parage was just ridiculous. All of
Speaker 1: that to say, the Kansas City Chiefs and the Patriots
Speaker 1: should just play in the a f C Championship already.
Speaker 1: With apologies to the Ravens. I get it, you're two
Speaker 1: and oh, but the Chiefs are going to be and
Speaker 1: maybe all short arm this again. I have the Chiefs
Speaker 1: at six hosting the Ravens here. You're a little white,
Speaker 1: you know, six and a half when I see, uh,
Speaker 1: six and a half the juice on the favorite or
Speaker 1: seven with juice on the dog. I'm gonna open this
Speaker 1: six and a half, and I'll tell you what fust
Speaker 1: of all, I do think it's a three way race
Speaker 1: in the a f C. Now, We've got a lot
Speaker 1: of football get to play, so I hate to jump
Speaker 1: the gun too much, but to me, it does look like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas City, New England. But I would not
Speaker 1: throw Baltimore out there yet or out of that next
Speaker 1: um Kansas City when they have rushing the ball deild,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got the statute in front of end.
Speaker 1: I don't think they get the game fifty yards, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're sitting on a pretty big lead
Speaker 1: that could come back to haunt them. And you know, said,
Speaker 1: since we've been doing this show, not that I'm a
Speaker 1: Baltimore fan by a stretch of imagination, but John Harbaugh
Speaker 1: do believe it is probably the second best coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Gets the most out of his talent every year,
Speaker 1: and I think he's got this. Lamar Jackson is a
Speaker 1: little bit different of a quarterback. You know, he sat
Speaker 1: on him for most of last year, but now he's
Speaker 1: gearing his offense around this guy. And this offense isn't bad.
Speaker 1: I know then't produced huge numbers, but like you said,
Speaker 1: that big time of possession or of course they won
Speaker 1: the game yesterday, So I think Baltimore in that mix,
Speaker 1: and I kind of a feeling Baltimore hangs in there
Speaker 1: with this Kansas City team. As impressive as Kansas City
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Like I said, the one chink in the
Speaker 1: armor maybe I see is that they they don't run
Speaker 1: the ball as well as they probably need to if
Speaker 1: they're going to protect big leads. Well we are, I
Speaker 1: think Baltimore. I'm sorry, no, go ahead. We're gonna learn
Speaker 1: a lot from this game, aren't we like? And this
Speaker 1: will have I hate to say it, in week three,
Speaker 1: but this will have playoff implications perhaps if there if
Speaker 1: there's somehow ended up being a tie. I don't think
Speaker 1: there will be, but it could. Um To answer your question,
Speaker 1: hundred eighty two yards on the ground for the Ravens,
Speaker 1: but one twenty of those were from Jackson himself. Okay,
Speaker 1: but what the Kansas City have on the ground. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kansas City were looking for? Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: where I was going there. It's gonna have some big leads.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to protect it. Let me, I'll effort that.
Speaker 1: But six and a half is where you said you
Speaker 1: were opening that six and a half. I see it.
Speaker 1: I see it trending a little higher, but I definitely
Speaker 1: want to think a better six and app I think
Speaker 1: one was right in this game. Okay, I totally we're
Speaker 1: looking at about fifty five or so, so, uh you
Speaker 1: know that. I'm sure we're gonna be looking at those
Speaker 1: kind of numbers a whole year with this Kansas City team.
Speaker 1: But I think Baltimore, uh, you know, has a pretty
Speaker 1: good chance to have staying in there. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe given uh my homes a little bit of trouble
Speaker 1: in this game, thirty one yards on the ground for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Thirty one, yes, and they're predicting at twenty
Speaker 1: eight point or whatever. I think it was. The eight
Speaker 1: team wasn't the high, you know, which would you know?
Speaker 1: Pretty much the whole second half. You gotta run the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit better than that against a good team,
Speaker 1: and you know, they were thought they were lucky to
Speaker 1: hold on. But if they're playing a real world, solid team,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to run the ball a little bit
Speaker 1: better than that to hold onto a lead. All right,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm like a half point or a point
Speaker 1: and a half shy at all these some of them
Speaker 1: not through the seventh, a couple others through them. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know what all that means, but interesting so far.
Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch more to get to Week three.
Speaker 1: Christie Edger's doing his thing back in the saddle where
Speaker 1: he longs right here on Guessing Lines. It's a numbers
Speaker 1: game coming back right here at Feaston. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: a numbers game with you. Alexander signed for a Guessing
Speaker 1: Lines public service announcement. I feel like there should be
Speaker 1: one when we talk NFL and we're back into the
Speaker 1: NFL season. We all love the NFL, right, we all
Speaker 1: grew up on it for goodness sake. The first time
Speaker 1: I saw an NFL game when I was six years old,
Speaker 1: I was obsessed for life, right, And my parents are like,
Speaker 1: who is this alien child? We have not even from
Speaker 1: this country there? What is? What is he so interested?
Speaker 1: But it deserves to be said, and we'll bring chrisy
Speaker 1: Andrews back in on the show. Chris Andrews, the director
Speaker 1: of the South Point Hotel uh Sports book. By the way,
Speaker 1: you could follow him on Twitter at andrew Sports. I
Speaker 1: can't help but think, Chris, and I just want your
Speaker 1: reaction to this, because I do think it deserves to
Speaker 1: be mentioned once in a while. Um that betting the NFL,
Speaker 1: so many of these games come down to planko. Right,
Speaker 1: It's why teasers are so good in the NFL. The
Speaker 1: bolatility of scoring is muted, and so teasers makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I can't help but think that yesterday, even when
Speaker 1: I was three and two in circa right, and the
Speaker 1: and the week before, I got crushed on the Redskins
Speaker 1: back during Exause the Redskins back during the Eagles, I
Speaker 1: got beat on Detroit, snatching a tie from the jaws
Speaker 1: of victory against the Cardinals. And then I actually lost
Speaker 1: a couple of my own. I went one and four
Speaker 1: the first week, three and two this week, And I
Speaker 1: can't help but think to myself, I was no worse
Speaker 1: last week than I was this week. And for those
Speaker 1: who do very well in the NFL, often times it's
Speaker 1: not it's not them, Like when we have this confirmation
Speaker 1: bias that we we do well in the NFL, We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so good at this, but when things don't go
Speaker 1: against me, there's always some calamity on the field that happened.
Speaker 1: It's the way that our brains are wired. We have
Speaker 1: this confirmation bias towards that end. And I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm saying with the NFL is more often than not, man,
Speaker 1: it is really the vagaries of the game. Like eighty
Speaker 1: percent of these games are just completely random, and it's
Speaker 1: the on the margins is all we can really count on.
Speaker 1: You know I'm getting at there? Do you do you
Speaker 1: agree with that what I'm saying there? Oh, I agree wholeheartedly,
Speaker 1: and you're exactly rightly. That's why teasers are so popular.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know if you do them right, and
Speaker 1: there's a right way and a wrong way to do
Speaker 1: almost everything. But that could be a pretty good winning
Speaker 1: strategy in the NFL. I mean, how many games come
Speaker 1: down to the fourth quarter? You know, quite a few?
Speaker 1: And then you look at how important is your kicker?
Speaker 1: Pretty darn important. Meanwhile, it's probably the lowest paid guy
Speaker 1: on your rosters as far as like starters go, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know they change kickers all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it seems like it's rare anymore for a
Speaker 1: kicker to stay with the team for any length of time,
Speaker 1: sometimes not even the course of the whole seenior. You know,
Speaker 1: So a lot of games come down to the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: a lot of games come down to your kicker, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of randomness at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, listen, we've been on Twitter for
Speaker 1: a long time. I remember just seeing so many young
Speaker 1: kids I hit in the NFL last year follow me
Speaker 1: and you know something, picks and doing all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Then you never hear from him again. You know. Can
Speaker 1: you hit seventy percent for a year? Yeah? Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you can. You could see it all the
Speaker 1: time and the in the Super Contest, you know, But
Speaker 1: can you do it year after year? You know? I
Speaker 1: doubt it. You know. When I knew I knew Billy Walters,
Speaker 1: I want to say I knew him, well, I did,
Speaker 1: I knew him a little bit, you know, And he said,
Speaker 1: if he can get fifty seven fifty eight percent year
Speaker 1: after year after year, signed up for that. Yeah hard
Speaker 1: enough for that, for sure, you know. But him to
Speaker 1: get fifty seven and fifty eight percent. You gotta think
Speaker 1: when you know, you gotta get the best of the number,
Speaker 1: gotta manage your money properly, etcetera, etcetera. And there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of luck involved, and you know you
Speaker 1: got to just try to be on the right side
Speaker 1: of that lucky break which is coming. You really do.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'll just leave it with this. It's when
Speaker 1: we went to Piero's years ago. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this with Roxy, and Roxy said to me,
Speaker 1: he said that I'll never forget He said, Gil, no
Speaker 1: one beats the NFL. Nobody. And what he meant by
Speaker 1: that was, if you're doing this pre flop a t s.
Speaker 1: Sure you could beat it for a month, you can
Speaker 1: beat it for year. But what you're just described because
Speaker 1: all I'm getting at, which is if you think you're
Speaker 1: going to beat this lifetime and the brakes are always
Speaker 1: going to go your way, dude, it's not you trust me.
Speaker 1: It's just that this one. It's it's just the lines
Speaker 1: are so efficient. You know. Well, I've been around a
Speaker 1: long time, obviously, you know, and I know two guys
Speaker 1: personally that have beat the NFL, Billy being one of them,
Speaker 1: and my uncle Jack being the other one. So you know,
Speaker 1: Uncle Jack passed a wearing this last year, and you know, Billy,
Speaker 1: I hope he's doing okay, but you know, he famously is,
Speaker 1: you know, in prison right now for something totally unrelated
Speaker 1: to gambling. But you know, those are about the only
Speaker 1: two guys I know that that have done a long term,
Speaker 1: you know, year, a couple of years. Yeah. Sure, a
Speaker 1: lot of guys you know can hang their hat on that,
Speaker 1: but there's not too many, let's say, older guys that
Speaker 1: have done it for their lifetime, Very very very few.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying there's some out there that I haven't heard.
Speaker 1: Listen personal, there's no question that people are. There's some
Speaker 1: people listening to this right now and they're going to
Speaker 1: take this to the extreme, and they're not taking it
Speaker 1: for the for the meaning that it's meant the the
Speaker 1: level that I'm meaning it at, which is I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you can't do it. And the reason we
Speaker 1: go through this extraly because we all want to beat
Speaker 1: it on a weekly basis and on a monthly basis,
Speaker 1: but justin know that it's stacked against us in this sport.
Speaker 1: By the way, James Salinas. We can throw him into
Speaker 1: that group as well, perhaps as a modern day version.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Yeah, pretty dark, first third and twenty
Speaker 1: six in a four year span, three years out of
Speaker 1: four in the super godess. Let's do one more here, Chrissie,
Speaker 1: what are you got? Uh? Cincinnati ed bucket? No, that's
Speaker 1: not very exciting. Cincinnati, oh and two, but Buffalo is
Speaker 1: two and O two and o's two and oh. Uh
Speaker 1: they beat the Giants. Excuse me? They beat the Jets
Speaker 1: in week one, then they turn around in the same
Speaker 1: stadium and beat the Giants. So two road games technically
Speaker 1: for them in the same stadium to beat the Giants
Speaker 1: yesterday fourteen. The Giants are dreadful. They really are. Uh.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton for the Bengals yesterday and uh the Angles
Speaker 1: after losing to the Seahawks by a point in the
Speaker 1: first week of the season, Bengals yesterday really got crushed
Speaker 1: by the Niners forty one to seventeen. Andy Dalton forty
Speaker 1: two three eleven, two touchdowns, one pick, but he was
Speaker 1: sacked four times. Boyd was his number one target ten
Speaker 1: for one two but only twenty five yards rushing. Getting
Speaker 1: back to your thing about how many UH yards are
Speaker 1: these teams rushing for? Not a lot of balance there,
Speaker 1: Bengals oh and two for the second time in the
Speaker 1: last three years. Buffalo penalty train didn't matter. They overcame
Speaker 1: nine penalties for sixty five yards. That's their first two
Speaker 1: and oh start in five years, just the third and
Speaker 1: eleven years and UH three straight touchdown drives. Now, you
Speaker 1: remember we talked about this um with the Cowboys. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the Cowboys momentarily, but three straight touchdown drives
Speaker 1: for the Bills in this game of seventy five, seventy
Speaker 1: and ninety eight yards UH in that game against the Giants,
Speaker 1: and remember the Giants UH gave up five consecutive drives
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys the previous week of big UH length
Speaker 1: as well of of of long drives in a span
Speaker 1: between the second and third course of the Giants have
Speaker 1: been good for that in two weeks. Buffalo exploits that.
Speaker 1: I'll say it's Buffalo minus three seems a little light.
Speaker 1: I'll say four, You're a little light again. You know,
Speaker 1: I imagine you're will be on a lot of favorites,
Speaker 1: are a lot of dogs this week. It's mostly six
Speaker 1: couple straight five and a half. That seems like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I think I like the five and
Speaker 1: a half a little bit better. I'm gonna put it
Speaker 1: it's mostly six and I expected when I do put
Speaker 1: it up five and a half, they're gonna bet me
Speaker 1: on the favorite. Um. But that's okay. I think, first
Speaker 1: of all, a couple of things about Buffalo. They beat
Speaker 1: the Jets team who wound up with a ton of
Speaker 1: injuries the second half while they were down sixteen nothing
Speaker 1: if I remember, correct, correct, and came back in one
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen, and they beat a really bad giant team
Speaker 1: this ship and Josh Allen. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys had questions about him coming out of the draft
Speaker 1: to me and looted. But a lot of guys are
Speaker 1: rooting against him, I think, just to probably, I think,
Speaker 1: go back that confirmation biased thing, just to prove them
Speaker 1: themselves that they were right. But I think the kid's
Speaker 1: been pretty good. He's been I think a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of root for all these guys
Speaker 1: coming out of college just because on what the league
Speaker 1: could do well and uh, but I don't think they
Speaker 1: deserved to be a six point favorite here. But I
Speaker 1: think the public will definitely be on Buffalo in this game.
Speaker 1: That Cincinnati Niner games actually very interesting fun the action
Speaker 1: on that game, which is, you know, I like Cincinnati
Speaker 1: myself in the game, but it really lots of opinions
Speaker 1: both ways. I mean, we had both teams favored in
Speaker 1: that game. Uh, you know, depending on when you have better,
Speaker 1: So a lot of interest in both sides. But I
Speaker 1: think Cincinnati better than what they showed yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: liked them in this spot. I think getting six probably
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bargain, and uh, that's probably
Speaker 1: who I'm gonna need come Sunday morning. If that's okay,
Speaker 1: I take my chance of the Cincinnati that's the one
Speaker 1: I really like. You remember two weeks ago, I had
Speaker 1: Cincinnati as as many did at Seattle, and they were
Speaker 1: catching nine at Seattle. They ended up losing by one,
Speaker 1: and Seattle known for their prowess at home, right, and
Speaker 1: they and they made a game of it. There's six
Speaker 1: point dogs here at Buffalo. I mean, I'll take the
Speaker 1: Bengals again. You give me all those points. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't good, but they're not that bad. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Bengals I'll take those points. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: You know they have a good defensive line and it
Speaker 1: didn't show yesterday. Didn't mean you know, people get too
Speaker 1: carried away with one week in the NFL, and I
Speaker 1: think right now, Buffalo bus this line is a little high.
Speaker 1: I think we're judging Buffalo off of you know, a
Speaker 1: half or a lot of injuries for the Jets and
Speaker 1: then maybe come back and being a very bad Giants team.
Speaker 1: So let's not get carried away yet on Buffalo. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. Got a whole bunch more week three
Speaker 1: lines to get to. Lines with Chrissy. Uh, we'll we'll resume,
Speaker 1: I'll do a little baseball update, chrisy, We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll do it at the top of the hour. Let's
Speaker 1: do that guessing lines with Chris Ers from the south
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Speaker 1: some college football with Pete few Tach but baseball. Two
Speaker 1: weeks left in the season. Now let's do one more
Speaker 1: game here, Christie for Week three Guessing Lines. Where you
Speaker 1: want to go? Atlanta at Indianapolis. Atlanta we described with
Speaker 1: that win against the Eagles they held on yesterday on
Speaker 1: the big Julio Jones play fourth and three conversion where
Speaker 1: he took it to the house, took it into the tunnel.
Speaker 1: So Atlanta gets the win last night by the final
Speaker 1: score of twenty four to twenty. Um and um, let's
Speaker 1: see twenty by the way, they at one point closing
Speaker 1: dogs in that ball game they're at Indian Apples. Indian
Speaker 1: Apples gets by, as we mentioned, got by Tennessee by two.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette did throw a pick. He's very good with
Speaker 1: the football. But the Colts seven of fourteen on third down.
Speaker 1: That was a Frank Reich staple. Remember Frank Reich was
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. We talked about the third down conversions when
Speaker 1: he was there. We mentioned Andrew Luck eleven and against
Speaker 1: the Titans Jacoby Brissette picks up where he left off.
Speaker 1: I think Adam Vinitary might be retiring today. Chrissie though,
Speaker 1: there's that, Yeah, so that should be interesting. I'll say
Speaker 1: Indianapolis by a field goal. This seems pretty pretty sort
Speaker 1: of you know, mechanical to me that this should be three.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being something else. Well, I see
Speaker 1: two and a half or two and Apple Juice on
Speaker 1: the favorite. Three with Juice on the dog, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open three, uh, person, all you know, I'm really you know,
Speaker 1: you know what a big Andrew Luck fan that was.
Speaker 1: And I think they finally assembled a team around him
Speaker 1: that was uh kind of complimentary to some of the
Speaker 1: things that he did well. And of course he retired.
Speaker 1: This was probably the deepest roster that they've had since
Speaker 1: he had been there. So I think the team is
Speaker 1: pretty good and I think Jacoby presented Bresette not bad.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, I think Atlanta is a playoff team.
Speaker 1: I I know they've got a little shaky in the
Speaker 1: two games so far this year. I still think they're
Speaker 1: a playoff team. I think, and I think you may
Speaker 1: have kind of said the same thing. I think Indianapolis
Speaker 1: probably the best team in that division. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open three. I know they'll take the three, and I
Speaker 1: think a pretty good sized bet before I go to
Speaker 1: two and a half. And I think it's just one
Speaker 1: of these where, of course, you know at the South
Speaker 1: Point we don't use juice everything. He's eleven a ten. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna open three. I'm sure they'll take the three.
Speaker 1: We can go to two and a half. They'll probably
Speaker 1: laid back to two and a half. But I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Need in Indianapolis in this game, I think three is
Speaker 1: a very good opening number. Okay, three it is. Indianapolis
Speaker 1: has led twelve straight games at the half half, and
Speaker 1: that on the Heels when the year when Jacoby Brissette
Speaker 1: was replacing Andrew Luck, they led the fourth court all
Speaker 1: the time and ended up four and twelve. They're not
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they're not the Patriots, but they might be
Speaker 1: the tier right below that will come back. More guessing
Speaker 1: lines with Chrissy on a numbers game. In visa numbers game,
Speaker 1: Gil Alexander wants to believe in the ads. Guessing lines
Speaker 1: Week three in the National Football League. It's Gil Alexander, JB.
Speaker 1: John Brown is kind enough to hang out on Mondays
Speaker 1: with us. UH and Chrissie Andrews of course my mish
Speaker 1: Buka from l A this morning. UM, and hopefully Chris
Speaker 1: will be back here in the studio with us in
Speaker 1: short time. Chris can, I can I repeat what I
Speaker 1: just said about the Indianapolis Colts. I know we got
Speaker 1: about ten more games to get to, but real quick,
Speaker 1: right at the end of that hour, I just want
Speaker 1: to point this out to people, because I think this
Speaker 1: is an interesting thing. Uh. The Colts have led. The
Speaker 1: Colts have led at halftime in twelve straight football games. Now,
Speaker 1: that might not seem oh so what, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't win twelve games, but when you you add that,
Speaker 1: remember again the Jacoby Brissette here where they where he
Speaker 1: replaced Andrew Luck in seventeen. They ended up four and twelve,
Speaker 1: but they led in the fourth quarter all the time
Speaker 1: they got torpedoed by horrible play calling. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: the notion that they lead every game now for twelve
Speaker 1: straight at halftime. I just it's sort of this thing
Speaker 1: where I don't think people think of the Colts in
Speaker 1: a way that perhaps they should. This is a really
Speaker 1: good football team, really good offensive line that the drop
Speaker 1: off from manager Luck to Jacoby present probably not as
Speaker 1: large as people think. I thought it was those of
Speaker 1: us who had followed Jacoby Brissett and had some opinions
Speaker 1: about Andrew Luck were on the opposite end of that.
Speaker 1: We kind of knew that it wasn't a monster drop off.
Speaker 1: Not to say that Luck wasn't great, but Jacoby Brissette
Speaker 1: probably a lot better than people thought. But I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting when you went, when you are leading that
Speaker 1: many football games, at that point, you set yourself up
Speaker 1: for success. And I just think that, No, they're not
Speaker 1: the Patriots and they're not the Chiefs, but I think
Speaker 1: they're probably the leader in the clubhouse in the division.
Speaker 1: Maybe I can't even say that because the Tech since
Speaker 1: I'll have something to say about that as well the Titans,
Speaker 1: but I just think they are that tier below. It's
Speaker 1: a big below. It's a big drop off from the
Speaker 1: number two team to the three team in the a
Speaker 1: f C. I will admit that. But that's interesting to
Speaker 1: be twelve straight halftime leads. Yeah, And you know, I
Speaker 1: just remember the the voice of Bill Walsh, you know,
Speaker 1: when he had some of those great forty n Iron teams,
Speaker 1: and obviously they had a lot of leads to and
Speaker 1: he said the two most important things were running with
Speaker 1: football and rushing the passer when you have that big lead.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think right now, I think Indianapolis certainly
Speaker 1: can run the ball much better than they could during
Speaker 1: the Andrew Lucky years. And I think their their past
Speaker 1: rush is probably a little bit better too. So having
Speaker 1: a lead is always a good thing in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I always laugh like that, you know, they have
Speaker 1: to lead the NFL a lot of times. The game's
Speaker 1: almost over. He could be going down three touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the college game in the fourth quarter. You're still like
Speaker 1: right in it. You know, it's just a whole different game,
Speaker 1: you know. But I think they're gonna be I think
Speaker 1: they are a pretty good team, and I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm a huge Andy Luck fan,
Speaker 1: so obviously I think there's a drop off. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they finally had a good team around him, and I
Speaker 1: think Jacobe Passett will capitalize on that. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, kids pretty good. He's not that. In Seinfeld terminology,
Speaker 1: the Colts can take a reservation. The question is can
Speaker 1: they hold that a reservation. I think it's where we're getting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they can hold a lot of them. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, let's do some more here. What do
Speaker 1: you got still early games? I would imagine we're still
Speaker 1: on early games, right Oakland? That in Minnesota? Are we
Speaker 1: still doing that thing like we did yesterday with like
Speaker 1: ten early games and three late games? I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate that they do. Although the three late games
Speaker 1: are all pretty good, well released on paper going into
Speaker 1: the day, so that that I thought was okay. But
Speaker 1: ten was too much in Mint one, two, four, five, seven,
Speaker 1: eight early games this week? All right now, Oakland at
Speaker 1: Minnesota interconference game, I'm just gonna say it's Minnesota by
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Up front, Oakland, we already described they had
Speaker 1: a tend nothing lead against the Chiefs and then just
Speaker 1: a torrent a, a Patrick Mahomes casual twenty eight point
Speaker 1: quarter uh sunk the Raiders. Nobody scored in the second half.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you have the the over in
Speaker 1: that game, you probably feel like you just absolutely got
Speaker 1: hoodwinked by the scoreless second half. Um. So that's Oakland
Speaker 1: story there, one and one. They beat the Broncos the
Speaker 1: first week Minnesota, who crushed Atlanta the first week, with
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins only dropping back eleven times and throwing ten passes. Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's an interesting tweet from Krauser. What does that say?
Speaker 1: Krauser F I c right there, JB. Is that what
Speaker 1: that says? I think the crowds terrific. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: couldn't see it. That's the Vikings. This is the Vikings
Speaker 1: game against the Green Bay Packers yesterday, which they lost sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Vikings put up seven point zero yards per play
Speaker 1: and allowed four point nine yards per play, but lost.
Speaker 1: There have only been thirteen games in the last ten
Speaker 1: years in the NFL with the losing team gaining over
Speaker 1: seven yards were playing the winning team fewer than five
Speaker 1: yards per play. Of those thirteen games, kirk Cousins has
Speaker 1: been the losing quarterback in three of them since, and
Speaker 1: Grouser goes on to say, kryptonite. Now, for those of
Speaker 1: us who are Washington Redskins fans and have seen every
Speaker 1: game that kirk Cousins ever played, we're all nodding, and
Speaker 1: we're all going, yes, preach, this is what he does.
Speaker 1: He fills up a statue sheet and then makes one egregious,
Speaker 1: if not more egregious arason crunch time than anybody I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And yesterday it was the unforgivable throw away
Speaker 1: that he didn't throw away and it got picked in
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone and the Vikings were
Speaker 1: getting rolled a Basally's were rolling the Packers at that point.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook was just doing whatever he wanted to do
Speaker 1: and that was it. Uh, they couldn't win, they couldn't cover,
Speaker 1: and UH, if you were a Packers backer, you had
Speaker 1: to feel real fortunate about that. The Vikings eight penalty,
Speaker 1: He's a hundred yards, four turnovers. Kevin King picking off
Speaker 1: that ball late in the fourth quarter of the back
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Um, just a great stat there
Speaker 1: by crousing. But that's his story. But I think the
Speaker 1: Vikings are seven point favorites here against the Raiders. I
Speaker 1: think a touchdown is right. You're a little light again.
Speaker 1: I think he has been a couple of seven and
Speaker 1: a halfs. I think eight is a good number. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Oakland, I think they are what we thought
Speaker 1: they were too compara phases any green and I think
Speaker 1: Minnesota kind of makes amends that it is an impressive statue.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kirk Cousins gonna make that agregious here
Speaker 1: to come back to haunt them in this particular spot.
Speaker 1: You know, Oakland now going on the road, um, and
Speaker 1: they got a long road in front next to quite
Speaker 1: a few games at the end. What the number is?
Speaker 1: Because they won't be home again for a while, and
Speaker 1: I think that that probably has to be in the
Speaker 1: back of their minds a little bit. But I think
Speaker 1: Minnesota coming off that game where they easily could have one,
Speaker 1: certainly should have covered. I think it's a good place
Speaker 1: to start. Okay, I'm hit in the front of the
Speaker 1: rim on everything today, Chrissie hit in the front of
Speaker 1: the Uh. Dalvin Cook twenty carries, a hundred fifty four
Speaker 1: and a touchdown yesterday. Dalvin Cook is the real deal.
Speaker 1: And this last thing, the last thing about Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: since twenty forty four fumbles, not even kidding, I'm not
Speaker 1: making that up. Forty four fumbles since dropped the mic
Speaker 1: and I walked out of the room on that. All right,
Speaker 1: what's the next one? The Jets? That New England. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we haven't seen the Jets this week. They're they're
Speaker 1: hosting the Browns tonight. Jeff Parlay produced number five in
Speaker 1: the house for that one again, it'll be Trevor Simeon.
Speaker 1: We don't know if we're getting Sam Donald back for
Speaker 1: the this game against the Patriots are not. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure it matters. Patriots just absolutely crushed again yesterday. Uh.
Speaker 1: Patriots beat the Dolphins, and UM they beat him by
Speaker 1: the score of forty three to zero. That coming off
Speaker 1: their thirty three to three win over the Steelers previous
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I believe that seventy six to three by
Speaker 1: my edition right there, UH combined score A B and
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. He was allowed to play four catches fifty
Speaker 1: six yards at a touchdown. The Patriots scored twice on
Speaker 1: interception returns in two minutes span in the fourth quarter. UM.
Speaker 1: They basically their defense outscored in Miami. UM with those
Speaker 1: interception returns fifty four yards by Stefan Gilmore, sixty nine
Speaker 1: yards by Jamie Collins. Patriots had seven sacks, four picks.
Speaker 1: Stephen Gostkowski he missed two extra points in a forty
Speaker 1: eight yard or what is going on with these with
Speaker 1: these kickers? UM? New England hosting the Jets again. There's
Speaker 1: probably not on a line because Jets haven't played, But
Speaker 1: I mean, can it be lower than fourteen and a
Speaker 1: half or something like that? No, there is lines out there. Um,
Speaker 1: you're hitting the front of the room again, my friend,
Speaker 1: it's half go wow, I get I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. Um, I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see Sam Donald next week. I can't imagine the doctor
Speaker 1: clearing him to play this quickly after a mono nucleosis,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know it usually takes at
Speaker 1: least a month. I mean, you know, he's a big,
Speaker 1: strong kid. No, probably a lot more healthy than your
Speaker 1: average guy that gets motto. But I don't see. But
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens tonight. You know, we
Speaker 1: kind of you know, we have a little bit in
Speaker 1: our memory banks about Trevor Sime and I'm not expecting
Speaker 1: a great game out of the Gifts tonight. But seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half, I think I think that's a pretty
Speaker 1: good number. Us. I don't know what's to stand in
Speaker 1: front of this New England train right now, because there
Speaker 1: they are pretty darn good. Plus, even in the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: Bilichick's uh calling path plays in the fourth quarters, so
Speaker 1: you know, he's not one to step off the gap
Speaker 1: at any time, and I don't think you'll do it
Speaker 1: against the divisional potement. Even so. You know, let last
Speaker 1: week when we did this on guessing lines, I guessed
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half Patriots at the Dolphins, and you
Speaker 1: told me at the time. Remember it was sixteen and
Speaker 1: a half at the time, and then it's soared to
Speaker 1: me and then passed me. So it's not like I
Speaker 1: it's not like I underrate the Patriots, but that was
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and I get it was on the road,
Speaker 1: but it's the Dolphins. The Dolphins could be historically bad.
Speaker 1: The notion that fourteen and a half at home against
Speaker 1: the Jets is like ridiculously low by a field goal. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would rush to lay the
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half against the Jets. I really don't,
Speaker 1: because I could see Belichick just going real vanilla, and um,
Speaker 1: they're not the Dolphins. The Jets might not be good,
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins are their own level. Um, so that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Seventeen and a half in favor of the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: I barely grazed the rim on that one, to be
Speaker 1: quite honest with you. Let's let's do what I might
Speaker 1: have just hit the net? What what? What's next? Speaking
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins? The Dolphins at down. Okay, So now
Speaker 1: what you just said about the Patriots and now what
Speaker 1: I just said about the Dolphins, I have to rethink
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, because I was gonna say
Speaker 1: Dallas by eighteen and a half. But that's gonna be short.
Speaker 1: There's no way it's eighteen and a half. That's gotta
Speaker 1: be teetering on three touchdowns. If it's I'll say twenty
Speaker 1: and a half or twenty, I'll say twenty and a
Speaker 1: half because I had eighteen and a half. But Miami
Speaker 1: minus ninety two point differential in their first two games.
Speaker 1: They lost a hundred and two to ten. If you
Speaker 1: add the Ravens and the Patriots games together. Yesterday Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and I guess I know it's against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: but eleven eighty nine, no touchdowns, three picks, four sacks.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen in relief um seven when I said I
Speaker 1: messed with this Dad here uh nine seven yards passing,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick, three sacks, hundred They had a
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four total yards. Let's just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. The Dolphins had a hundred and eighty four
Speaker 1: total yards, and listen how the Cowboys. So Dak had
Speaker 1: a perfect rating last week, and then he turns around.
Speaker 1: Remember last week against the Giants, there was the night
Speaker 1: seventy eighty nine excuse me, seventy five yard driven five
Speaker 1: consecutive possessions. Then yesterday against the Skins eighty three and
Speaker 1: seventy five consecutively. Dac was twenty six of thirty for
Speaker 1: two sixty nine three touchdowns. He now has the most
Speaker 1: games with a ninety QBR ninety total QBR are higher
Speaker 1: ten since twenty six. No one else has more than
Speaker 1: seven in that span, and he added sixty nine yards
Speaker 1: on the ground yesterday. Zeke twenty three of one eleven
Speaker 1: with a touchdown. The Cowboys first four games end up
Speaker 1: being the Giants and the Redskins, the dregs of the
Speaker 1: NFC East. They get Miami this week, and then they're
Speaker 1: going to get the Saints without Drew Brees probably in
Speaker 1: week four. Damn you Cowboys. So I'll say, I'll say
Speaker 1: twenty and a half, and I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: you tell me it's I'm gonna be short again, you're
Speaker 1: a little shortage twenty one and uh once again. God,
Speaker 1: I don't see him beating down the doors at Miami
Speaker 1: in this one. So we're gonna open twenty one. By
Speaker 1: the way, we went the nineteen and a half on
Speaker 1: the Patriots are high water on the Patriots, and we
Speaker 1: did have the Wise guys come in. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: some pretty big play on Miami plus nineteen and half
Speaker 1: and plus nineteen. Really, as far as strength that goes,
Speaker 1: we're not even up on that game. Uh. And of
Speaker 1: course all the parlays and everything else were on New England,
Speaker 1: as you would expect. But boy, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna take a lot of woods to betting
Speaker 1: on Miami this week, and uh, I see some twenty
Speaker 1: one and a halves out there, I'm feeling we're gonna
Speaker 1: wind up getting there. I'm gonna open twenty one and two.
Speaker 1: What they want to do it, I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: a big, big number, big number. But you remember last
Speaker 1: week week when I said when when you said it
Speaker 1: was sixteen and a half, and I said, give me
Speaker 1: the Patriots all day, and you said, well, the wise
Speaker 1: guys will probably be with Miami and I said, I go,
Speaker 1: if they're on Miami, that's just muscle memory and that's
Speaker 1: just too cool for school. The Miami Dolphins are a
Speaker 1: legal part anybody who's betting on them, and uh, twenty one, Like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing they have shown to indicate that they are
Speaker 1: a professional football outfit at this point, and Dallas is
Speaker 1: just rolling. So I don't know how you. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you're in a contest and you're not betting real money,
Speaker 1: maybe you take the twenty one. But if you're I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like real money bets, that's the currency I'm
Speaker 1: dealing in. You're really gonna you're really gonna bet the
Speaker 1: Dolphins at that number? I don't think you can. It's
Speaker 1: almost impossible to have been on them. It really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a mountain of clion in
Speaker 1: the NFL. It really is. And it deserves to be
Speaker 1: stated that like this, this does not exist. Before this year,
Speaker 1: there were not twenty Like what's I mean if you
Speaker 1: if there was a twenty one point spread, it was
Speaker 1: a historical spread. Now every time the Dolphins take the
Speaker 1: field away against a good team, this gonna come up
Speaker 1: every time. Okay, I can remember one game, uh, Steve
Speaker 1: young'st er playing the Cincinnati Bengals when Shul look David Cheul,
Speaker 1: I guess was the coach. Cincinnati was about this bad,
Speaker 1: probably a little better than lining, But Niners were I
Speaker 1: think a twenty about a one favor twenty or twenty
Speaker 1: one right in there, depends on worry about it and
Speaker 1: at what time. And Cincinnati covered that number fairly easily
Speaker 1: if I recall correctly. But maybe what one of our
Speaker 1: visa and UH analytics guys could look that up, you know, Niners,
Speaker 1: and I want to say about maybe ninety three ish
Speaker 1: somewhere around there, you know, the Miners with Steve one
Speaker 1: of those great Steve Young games that could really put
Speaker 1: up some points. But think about that, crazy, that's how
Speaker 1: far you have to go back. And here we are,
Speaker 1: week two at home, their nineteen and a half point
Speaker 1: do we three on the road? Three touchdowns? Geez? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This was in San Francisco. This was in San Francisco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do one more here before the break.
Speaker 1: The Giants at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay on extra rest, uh,
Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to listen to
Speaker 1: a dissertation on the final drive of that Carolina Tampa
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Speaker 1: sort of broke that down. Uh, Tampa Bay's one and one.
Speaker 1: The Giants row and two. We already talked about them.
Speaker 1: They're dreadful. I mean s Kwon eighteen carries a hundred
Speaker 1: seven yards, but it's like a tree falling in the forest.
Speaker 1: Who cares. They were three of twelve on third down.
Speaker 1: Where the Giants in the first two weeks of the
Speaker 1: season on third downs they're five of twenty three for
Speaker 1: twenty one point seven percent. Tampa Bay. By the way,
Speaker 1: they were two of twelve on third down in victory
Speaker 1: on Thursday. They also twelve penalties the Bucks for sixty
Speaker 1: six yards. Um, not much to say here. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is gonna be a short on this again. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is a six point favorite, are they here against the Giants?
Speaker 1: Little short? Six and six of a All right? That? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't be for that. I mean, who wants the Giants?
Speaker 1: But I mean, do you want to lay points with
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay? No? I really don't, ye because Jamis Will
Speaker 1: will make a mistake here there. Um, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll do more. We got a whole bunch more to
Speaker 1: get to. Uh. It is week three of the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Maybe I'll actually hit one of these this week.
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Speaker 1: want to point this out, John Brown. It's done a
Speaker 1: wonderful job. We were just talking about this Cowboys Dolphins spread,
Speaker 1: which is at twenty one points this coming weekend at Dallas.
Speaker 1: There are six spreads in modern excuse me, in modern
Speaker 1: football history that are larger than the current twenty one
Speaker 1: and we'll see where this game closes, but at the
Speaker 1: at the number of twenty one, in ascending order. Here
Speaker 1: are the six games. And you tell me if you
Speaker 1: remember if you remember these offhand, Chris, because the one
Speaker 1: you just mentioned is in that group. Uh, Patriots Dolphins
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven. The Patriots were twenty two point
Speaker 1: favorites in that game. Um, so another Tom Brady team. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do kind of remember that one. I lived that year.
Speaker 1: The day I remember that I was you know, I
Speaker 1: I did step in front of that New England train
Speaker 1: a couple of times. And remember finally winning when they
Speaker 1: played Philadelphia. I took seventeen the first half against Philadelphia. Okay,
Speaker 1: these are going crazy now, but yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: remember that one. Okay, go ahead. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Patriots won that game twenty eight to seven, falling a
Speaker 1: point short of the twenty two point closing spread. Uh.
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven. That was a home game in
Speaker 1: New England late in the season that remember that's the
Speaker 1: year that New England went undefeated until the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So twenty two point spread, they fall one point short there.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy seven. Now, a couple of these have to
Speaker 1: do with the the futility of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: at that time. Cowboys were twenty three point favorites over
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers in nineteen seventy seven. Cowboys Buccaneers nineteen seventy seven, UM,
Speaker 1: twenty three, and that was there is that's coming up,
Speaker 1: by the way, the Cowboys, the Cowboys and the Buccaneers. Um,
Speaker 1: they ended up playing a playoff game a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. That's how amazing, uh that was. But remember
Speaker 1: that was when the Bucks were oh in twenty six
Speaker 1: to start their first two seasons before they won two
Speaker 1: games at the end of the year. But by the way,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys twenty three point favorites in that game. They
Speaker 1: ended up winning twenty three to seven, so they didn't
Speaker 1: cover either. Then there's the Falcons and the Niners in
Speaker 1: seven to find The Niners were twenty three and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites in that ball game. Seven. That was
Speaker 1: obviously one of the great Joe Montana years. That was
Speaker 1: the year the Redskins won the Super Bowl. In the
Speaker 1: strike season, the Niners got upset in the playoffs by
Speaker 1: Anthony Carter and the Vikings. UH forty Niners Bengals third
Speaker 1: highest spread of all time. This was Ers were twenty
Speaker 1: four point favorites in that ball game. Second highest Denver
Speaker 1: Jacksonville from just En That was a Peyton Manning team
Speaker 1: that were twenty six point favorites over the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: They ended up winning by sixteen thirty five to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Chad Henny was your quarterback for the Jaguars in that game.
Speaker 1: And then the highest one highest one of all time
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six Steelers in the Bucks. So the Steelers
Speaker 1: are in the midst of winning Super Bowls. The Bucks
Speaker 1: are in the midst of being historically feudal. Uh Steelers
Speaker 1: were twenty seven point favorites and the Steelers won forty
Speaker 1: two to nothing. Your your quarterback that I do remember
Speaker 1: that one, And you know, back then, totals weren't all
Speaker 1: that popular. Some of it was. I think the total
Speaker 1: was like thirty five. That's great, and I'm not kid
Speaker 1: and I think that's about when it was. I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have records of that like that.
Speaker 1: Not everybody used totals back then, but I think that
Speaker 1: for those that did, that was the total starting quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that day. Steve Spurrier, I
Speaker 1: just want to point out what was the game that
Speaker 1: you came up last segment? What was the matchup that
Speaker 1: you remember the Niners and the Bengals got the year right?
Speaker 1: Ninety three was twenty one, but I guess four is
Speaker 1: probably six games story that didn't make the book that
Speaker 1: is about that that particular game. Oh, do you want
Speaker 1: to tell that next week? Maybe maybe next week we
Speaker 1: could go into that because I don't have it quite prepared.
Speaker 1: It's a little too long and we're going to run
Speaker 1: out of time. All right, let to move on to
Speaker 1: the next game. So six games, just establishing what we
Speaker 1: were just going through, six games with larger spreads. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the list. Than this Cowboys Dolphins game this weekend. Man,
Speaker 1: wait till the Patriots host the Dolphins. That's still to come.
Speaker 1: That's gonna make that list as well. All right, what
Speaker 1: do you got? What's next? Carolina at Arizona, Carolina at Arizona,
Speaker 1: Carolinas oh and two Arizona's oh one and one. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray not the worst of the worst. Kyler Murray comporting
Speaker 1: himself very well. Twenty five forty three, forty nine, no
Speaker 1: touchdowns note picks. He's the second quarterback ever with three
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards his first two games. If you remember
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, I think went four hundred four hundred his
Speaker 1: first two games. But Murray, uh four play seventy nine
Speaker 1: yard touchdown drive to make it twenty to seventeen against
Speaker 1: the Ravens in the fourth quarter with twelve fifty two remaining. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: they got close, Uh didn't get it done, but you
Speaker 1: know they showed life Kristen Kirk six for one fourteen
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald Larry Fitzgerald five one oh four. They were two
Speaker 1: of eleven on third down. They couldn't matriculate when it mattered.
Speaker 1: And then Caroline is gonna be on extra rest and
Speaker 1: Cam just doesn't look that good. By the way, here's
Speaker 1: a note from Football Perspective fb G Chase Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. This was yesterday. They're now the first
Speaker 1: team since the NFL moved the goal post in vo
Speaker 1: to attempt three field goal attempts in a game while
Speaker 1: trailing from inside the five yard line. I thought Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury supposed to be progressive, by the way. Think it
Speaker 1: was a fourth and one from the four and fourth
Speaker 1: and goals from the three and two field goals. Each
Speaker 1: time I read somebody on Twitter, I wish I could
Speaker 1: credit who it was. And they think that Kingsbury just
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be accused of being a quote unquote
Speaker 1: college coach. Interesting, I'll say, Caroline and minus three on
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, it's two and a half and three
Speaker 1: three with juice on the dog to an app juice
Speaker 1: on the same that I'm gonna open to an app
Speaker 1: and get a bet on Carolina. You know, Tyler Murray
Speaker 1: still not bullish on this guy long term. I just
Speaker 1: think he's just too little to take a lot of
Speaker 1: these hits that he's gonna wind up getting. Although he
Speaker 1: does know I don't avoid them. I get I'll give
Speaker 1: him that credit. But you know, boy, Cam just does
Speaker 1: not look right. I'm gonna open two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll bet me up, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a bet on Caroline in months to two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they deserve to be much a three
Speaker 1: point road favorite anywhere, well except Miami. Are we in
Speaker 1: the afternoon against Are we in the afternoon game? That's
Speaker 1: the second one o'clock game. Tampa was the first one. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, let's do one more. Let's let's
Speaker 1: finish with the afternoon games. What are you got? Okay?
Speaker 1: New Orleans at Seattle? And now that's coming out that
Speaker 1: Drew Brees will not play. Matter of fact, he's getting
Speaker 1: surgery on his thumb. He looks to be out maybe
Speaker 1: up to six weeks. Teddy Bridgewater for the Saints, and
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater did not look particularly good yesterday, but he
Speaker 1: didn't you know he was thrust into the role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I love Teddy Bridgewater. When he
Speaker 1: was in Minnesota. I thought there's a great signing by
Speaker 1: New Orleans. But he had two games in the regular
Speaker 1: season with extensive playing time, and he has not looked
Speaker 1: good at either one from including yesterday. But I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want to judge too quickly on two games
Speaker 1: because one was the end of last season, kind of
Speaker 1: like a mop up. He started, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of a mop up portion of the season, and he
Speaker 1: got kind of thrown in yesterday, So I don't want
Speaker 1: to judge them too harshly off of that. But he
Speaker 1: has not looked good. And there's a kid I really
Speaker 1: really liked a lot for a long time. You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing about you know, we talked about all
Speaker 1: the penalties, but just the the injection of of refs
Speaker 1: left and right. Bridgewater, by the way, seventeen of thirty
Speaker 1: yesterday for one sixty five no touchdowns, no picks. The
Speaker 1: Saints another one of these teams, eleven penalties eighty seven yards.
Speaker 1: It's the theme of the day. Breeze left late in
Speaker 1: the first quarter thumb injury. He was throwing the ball
Speaker 1: Air's his right hand is throwing hand hit Aaron Donald's awkwardly,
Speaker 1: and you could tell it was serious. Same way you
Speaker 1: could tell with Big Ben with his elbow yesterday against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Both injuries looked very serious. So that was
Speaker 1: the end of Drew Brees, and as Chrisy just reported,
Speaker 1: could be a while now, could be six weeks for
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He saw a hand specialist last night in
Speaker 1: l a And that is the result getting surgery. New
Speaker 1: Orleans didn't score an offensive touchdown for only the fourth
Speaker 1: time in thirteen plus seasons under coach Sean Payton. Of course,
Speaker 1: much of that, if not all of that, having to
Speaker 1: do with breeze departure and the big thing in this game,
Speaker 1: I mean, it just had to happen, right, all of
Speaker 1: these rules, all of these challenging of p i s
Speaker 1: and challenges of non calls, all stemming from uh the
Speaker 1: NIKEL Robie Coleman play in the game in the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year between the Rams and the Saints, and of
Speaker 1: all the games for the refs to mess up, it
Speaker 1: had to happen. Yesterday. Cameron Jordan of the Saints had
Speaker 1: a long fumble return for a touchdown. He got wiped
Speaker 1: out in the second quarter. The play initially was ruled
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass before video review determined that Golf had fumbled,
Speaker 1: but Jordan's long return didn't count because officials had blown
Speaker 1: the play dead. Don't do that anymore. We have replay,
Speaker 1: for God's sakes. And so the Saints got screwed a end.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it would have changed the outcome,
Speaker 1: but it could have changed the outcome, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean in the game. You know, it's a whole
Speaker 1: different game at that point. Sure his Saints. Saints. By
Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna stay on the West coast. If
Speaker 1: those were for those who were wondering, they're they're playing
Speaker 1: at Seattle, so they were, they were in l A yesterday.
Speaker 1: They're gonna stay on the West Coast to face the
Speaker 1: Seahawks on Sunday. The Seahawks get it done over what
Speaker 1: was largely the Mason Rudolph led Steelers yesterday when Big
Speaker 1: Ben went out with the with the elbow injury. And
Speaker 1: let me just say this again, trying very hard to
Speaker 1: be honest about one's bets. I had the Steelers this.
Speaker 1: I didn't lose this because Big Ben went out. The
Speaker 1: Steelers were actually better with Mason Rudolph. It was not
Speaker 1: his fault. They lost this game. They just couldn't get
Speaker 1: the Seahawks off the field. And uh, you know, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is Russell Wilson. He had three great scrambles on
Speaker 1: their last drive. Seattle's last drive helped drain the final
Speaker 1: five thirty four off the clock. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: I will say this, there was a play in that
Speaker 1: game where there was no flag called on a big
Speaker 1: third and twenty and then it was challenged and then
Speaker 1: they called a p I on Pittsburgh. That was a
Speaker 1: massive play in this game. Pittsburgh shot themselves in the
Speaker 1: foot though a few times. That's another story. I would say, Seattle,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Bridgewater, so we don't I mean, this
Speaker 1: has got to be at least a touchdown, right, I
Speaker 1: mean I would start it at minus seven. I would say,
Speaker 1: I'll just say minus seven. I only see one line
Speaker 1: and I actually agree with it. Seattle is four and
Speaker 1: a half. And that's from my friend Nick Ladanovitch that
Speaker 1: William Hill. I kind of agree with that number. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be about four and a half with
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Uh. You know, listen, I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: really talked much about it on this show. I'm not
Speaker 1: the biggest Drew Brees fan in the world. I think
Speaker 1: he's really really good, but you know, you're comparing with
Speaker 1: Brady and Manning and those guys like during the course
Speaker 1: of his career, I don't think he was quite up
Speaker 1: to that level. And I still, like I said, I
Speaker 1: hate to sell Bridgewater short. His last two games have
Speaker 1: not been very good. Again, a week to work with
Speaker 1: Seawan Paynton, who I think it is very very good
Speaker 1: as a coach, and I think they do have a
Speaker 1: lot of weapons there. I just have a hunch will
Speaker 1: be okay this week. So it's four and a half, uh,
Speaker 1: And that's when I'm gonna open, and they they might
Speaker 1: come in on it, and I expect somebody's gonna have
Speaker 1: some sort of opinions. They always seem to have them.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna open four and after I agree with
Speaker 1: that number, I think that's a good number. Seems very
Speaker 1: late to me. Jadeveon Clowne and the company gonna gonna feast.
Speaker 1: I think on in this game should be interesting. Teddy, Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: as you say, we'll have a week to prepare, knowing
Speaker 1: that he is that he will be the guy in
Speaker 1: this UM. We shall see on that one Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: in the Seahawks. You're saying four and a half is
Speaker 1: the open number. I would have had that at a
Speaker 1: touchdown in this game without Drew Brees. Let's do do
Speaker 1: we have any more afternoon games? Let's do one more?
Speaker 1: If we have one more, two more, two more? All right,
Speaker 1: let's do Houston at the Chargers, Houston at the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Texans get by the Jaguars, and I you mean get
Speaker 1: by Um, eighth straight game for the Texans. This is
Speaker 1: interesting stat. Eighth straight game in which Deshaun Watson has
Speaker 1: been sacked at least four times. That's not good that
Speaker 1: dude gets banged up. UM. Yeah, and it's not like
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzil is helping really in that trade with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: So sixty two times, that's how many times Watson was
Speaker 1: sacked last year at the NFL high sixty two times. Um,
Speaker 1: but he is on pace to exceed that already. UM.
Speaker 1: So they get by Jacksonville attempts the two point conversion
Speaker 1: down one, doesn't get Leonard four Nette is stopped short
Speaker 1: by Justin Reid. Um six red zone turnovers for the
Speaker 1: Chargers though since the start ofen and they were plagued
Speaker 1: again by it. Yesterday. They had nine penalties for seventy yards.
Speaker 1: The Chargers two horrible turnovers, the one from Austin Ekeler
Speaker 1: at the one yard line. Philip rivers through a bad
Speaker 1: one uh two missed old goals. Their punter is their
Speaker 1: place kicker right now. And even though Ekeler was one
Speaker 1: thirty three from scrimmage, that fumble was huge in this game.
Speaker 1: So the Chargers just did Chargers things. Yesterday it was
Speaker 1: Patricia against against Um Anthony Lynn. It didn't go the
Speaker 1: Chargers way. It's so predictable with this team. The Charges
Speaker 1: just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in ways
Speaker 1: that other franchises don't seem to do it as consistently. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's Houston at the Chargers. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: the Chargers are three point favorite because I just don't
Speaker 1: know what else to make this. Yeah, three with juice
Speaker 1: on the favorite, three and a half with juice on
Speaker 1: the dog, I'm gonna open three. Uh. This is a
Speaker 1: tough one, I think because I'm not a big believer
Speaker 1: in either team, But I don't think the Chargers have
Speaker 1: much of a home field advantage here. They claimed front
Speaker 1: of what twenty three thousand people or something like that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's I think it's just it's not a
Speaker 1: great spot for either one of them, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna open three. They'll probably bent me
Speaker 1: up to three and a half. Because these guys just
Speaker 1: can't resist it. Three minus one ten, So they'll probably
Speaker 1: bet me up. And I'm sure I'm gonna play that
Speaker 1: little dance all week three or three and a half.
Speaker 1: But you know, wherever they put me in this game,
Speaker 1: I guess is where I'm gonna because I don't have
Speaker 1: much faith in either one of them. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But I think three is a good place
Speaker 1: to start with this game. I ask a question at
Speaker 1: the end of my megapod with Mike Palm and uh
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnev. One of the two questions is which is
Speaker 1: the game if you have to bet a side in
Speaker 1: every single game on the upcoming slate, but you've got
Speaker 1: one free pass. Let's say you lived in a bizarre
Speaker 1: world you were forced to bet aside but one game
Speaker 1: free pass. This has to be that game Houston at
Speaker 1: the Charges, Like, how where's the edge here? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you get from these teams on
Speaker 1: a week to week basis very tough to Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. This is a tough one, all right.
Speaker 1: That's why I think we gotta started a three. And
Speaker 1: you know, wherever they take me, they take me. But
Speaker 1: I think that's a good place to start. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's do the last day game here. What's the other
Speaker 1: afternoon game? There's a top one Pittsburgh at San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and uh, they're gonna decide this morning whether Roethlisberger needs surgery.
Speaker 1: Obviously he doesn't want it. But you know, when they
Speaker 1: you're looking at an elbow on your throwing arm, it
Speaker 1: does not pretend well for Pittsburgh for Roethlisberger, whether they
Speaker 1: decide to operate or not. So I'm assuming he's out
Speaker 1: at this point. Um. You know, right now, again, I
Speaker 1: only see one number. I only see William Hill when
Speaker 1: we get through on the break. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: look for some other numbers here, But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's good news for Roethlisberger. But Jil you mentioned at
Speaker 1: the last segment, there's a lot of problems on Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: besides just Mason Rudolf that I thought he looked ok.
Speaker 1: Myself and the rest of the team. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The defense looks bad. The offense certainly,
Speaker 1: uh you know, missing to all pros, and uh, I
Speaker 1: didn't think they miss them that much because they had
Speaker 1: two guys that stepped in pretty good last year. They're
Speaker 1: definitely missing him. I can tell you that they got
Speaker 1: a lot of holes on this team right now. Rudolph
Speaker 1: was twelve of nineteen, two touchdowns, one pick yesterday and
Speaker 1: relief of Big Ben. It looked like one of these
Speaker 1: injuries too. And I don't know if there was contact
Speaker 1: that that initiated the pain, but it almost the way
Speaker 1: he was holding it, it reminds one of a pitcher
Speaker 1: in baseball who knows that he blew out his arm right,
Speaker 1: he knows that he's destined for Tommy John surgery. He
Speaker 1: looked bad and he looked like he's in a lot
Speaker 1: of pain. Thirty seven years old. For Big Ben and Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I hate to interrupted. Let me just please throw this
Speaker 1: in for old Pittsburgh guys like me, remember Terry Brideshaw
Speaker 1: was thirty three and he hurt that elbow and he
Speaker 1: was never the same and he I think he wound
Speaker 1: up retiring at the end of that season. And uh
Speaker 1: that's what this, uh, this injury reminded me of because
Speaker 1: I don't think he got hit either. I think he
Speaker 1: just blew out his arm, you know, and it's had
Speaker 1: a lot of wear and terror over the years. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it was good news for office, for jeez.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G for the Niners, who host the Steelers next week.
Speaker 1: Niners or two and oh after beating the h the
Speaker 1: Bengals yesterday and the Bucks the week before courtesy of
Speaker 1: two pick six. Is Pittsburgh now oh and two after
Speaker 1: getting thrashed by New England and then beat yesterday by Seattle.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G seventeen of twenty five for the Niners yesterday,
Speaker 1: two nine seven yards, three touchdowns in a pick Matt
Speaker 1: Brita twelve carries hundred twenty one yards. He had ten
Speaker 1: point one yards per carry. Did Brita. The Niners five
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two total yards of offense, two d
Speaker 1: ninety one of which were in the first half. They
Speaker 1: gained two hundred fifty nine yards on the ground six
Speaker 1: point two yards per carry. Again with the penalties though,
Speaker 1: nine for seventy five. Um. First back to back road
Speaker 1: wins for the Niners since nine eight nine. That's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. And they also, by the way, with the
Speaker 1: Steelers rather than return. Oh excuse me, that what the
Speaker 1: Niners did. We just talked about it that the the
Speaker 1: the Saints are staying on the West coast. The Niners
Speaker 1: just did that. They they are just returning to the
Speaker 1: West coast. Now. They stayed on the East coast after
Speaker 1: that Tampa Bay game. They were in Youngstown, Ohio before
Speaker 1: this game against the Bengal. So now they're headed back
Speaker 1: to the West coast. So a lot of these teams
Speaker 1: opting sort of stay geographically where consecutive games are. Um,
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, I would imagine it's him, and I would
Speaker 1: imagine the Niners should be about four and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites if it's him. I got your number for
Speaker 1: this game that you said was going to be the
Speaker 1: Seattle game. Well, you're a little light here again. It's six,
Speaker 1: But like I said, I only see one number. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that's a little high myself. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: We're on the break here, I'm gonna go try to
Speaker 1: find some other numbers. Um right now, only see William
Speaker 1: Hill has it up six, And I do think that's
Speaker 1: a shade high, because, like I said, is the drop
Speaker 1: off from Rocklisberger and Rudolf's big it is. It looks
Speaker 1: not kid ourselves it is. But I think there's more
Speaker 1: problems than just Ben Roethlisberger. And let's see if Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: can come off the at being O and two. You know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a huge, huge game for them. And
Speaker 1: you know an O and two team at a two
Speaker 1: and O team, they're gonna be. You look back historically
Speaker 1: and that O and two team is going to cover
Speaker 1: an awful lot of to those numbers. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think that I think I might be a
Speaker 1: case here and I think six is probably a little
Speaker 1: bit too high. But I'm gonna go. I don't want
Speaker 1: to announce what I'm gonna open againcre I think I gotta.
Speaker 1: If I see lower, I'm gonna open lower. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: come back. We'll do the two primetime game Sunday night,
Speaker 1: Monday night. Week three Guessing lines with Chris Andrews right
Speaker 1: here on a numbers game at Vista. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: a numbers game with Jill Alexander. So here's what I
Speaker 1: like so far, Chrissie talking to Chris Andrews. Of course
Speaker 1: you can follow him on Twitter at Andrew's Sports and
Speaker 1: the name of the book once again available at Amazon.
Speaker 1: Then one day Chris is a forty year career in bookmaking.
Speaker 1: Then one day available at Amazon where all books are sold.
Speaker 1: What I like so far here Chris. Then Cincinnati based
Speaker 1: on the number, because I think Cincinnati catching all those points.
Speaker 1: What did you say the number was against um against Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but it's mostly six? Yeah, give me give me six.
Speaker 1: If I can get six on Cincinnati like that, then
Speaker 1: the other ones, they're not really line value so much
Speaker 1: as I just, you know, because I was right around
Speaker 1: the number Philadelphia. I'll happily lay you know points, I
Speaker 1: had six and a half against Detroit. I'll take the
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson versus Matt Patricia. Um uh line there. What
Speaker 1: did you end up opening that one up against as well?
Speaker 1: I said seven and a half, but I see sevens
Speaker 1: now ye. Primarily I'm gonna open seven. I like that
Speaker 1: number better, so that one seven, That one came to
Speaker 1: me a little bit, came a half point. My way
Speaker 1: didn't go through seven yet. Casey's the other one. I
Speaker 1: kind of just you know, like, what, how am I
Speaker 1: not going to feel good betting on the Chiefs every
Speaker 1: week and they're at home? I know they're against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: but I like the Chiefs. And then the fourth one,
Speaker 1: which is almost like this mechanical thing is should should
Speaker 1: we all just be betting against the Dolphins period? Every
Speaker 1: single week? I mean, Dallas is twenty one points. We
Speaker 1: just called it the seventh highest spread in history. I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure. I don't. I'm not gonna consider that.
Speaker 1: The one that I'm the one that I'm most incredulous about, though,
Speaker 1: is the Patriots one. I had fourteen and a half
Speaker 1: and you're telling me the Patriots are seventeen and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites against the Jets. That just blows my
Speaker 1: mind on that one. Of course, we haven't seen the
Speaker 1: Jets tonight. Maybe my mind won't be so blown after
Speaker 1: the Trevor sim And show tonight. Let's do Sunday Night.
Speaker 1: What's the Sunday night game? May Night Rams at Cleveland
Speaker 1: Rams that claims so Cleveland hasn't played yet. They played
Speaker 1: to night against the Jets against six and a half
Speaker 1: point road favorites, and the Rams a little more of
Speaker 1: girly yesterday and that win over the Saints. But again
Speaker 1: they did it against the non Drew Brees Saints team.
Speaker 1: Girly sixteen of sixty three with a touchdown, three catches,
Speaker 1: four yards, Rams by four and a half. Let's say
Speaker 1: as a placeholder as three with juice on the dog.
Speaker 1: People love they still love them. And the you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in some contests with stale numbers and I laid
Speaker 1: two and a half and even pick I'm in one contest,
Speaker 1: but just because it's a line value. But the boy,
Speaker 1: they're even laying the six and a half tonight, and
Speaker 1: I would be awful careful. I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: Not that I'd love the Jets, but I would be
Speaker 1: awful careful. But people love this Crowns teams, they really do.
Speaker 1: I'm anna open three, good open three and that seems
Speaker 1: a little night. Yeah. Of course that will be affected
Speaker 1: by what we see tonight, um, barring injuries and by
Speaker 1: an outlying performance. We shall see all right, four and
Speaker 1: a half I'm not sure I would. Uh, let's I'll
Speaker 1: watch the Browns before I commit to that one. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. We'll do the Monday night game to wrap
Speaker 1: it up. Week three, guessing lines on a Numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers game with Jill Alexander.
Speaker 1: So Chrissy just brought it up with Drew Brees. That
Speaker 1: was reported first by ESPNS Adam Schefter that Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is expected to undergo thumb surgery as early as today.
Speaker 1: That could sideline him about six weeks. So bad news
Speaker 1: for Saints fans and it's backers and uh season wins
Speaker 1: or futures. Perhaps he will be back though at some
Speaker 1: point this season. Not the case for Ben Roethlisberger. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliana reporting and it's a very succinct tweet. Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is out for the season. Donezo. Yeah, well, I'm
Speaker 1: reading a lot of them here as I was checking
Speaker 1: out on the break that's being reported widely now Schefter
Speaker 1: and a lot of my Pittsburgh connections. Yeah, out for
Speaker 1: the season. And listen, what is thirty seven bad elbow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we may have seen the last of Ben Roethlisberger. Very easily. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that he had a great career. You know, he really
Speaker 1: two super Bowl wins and uh, you know, to quote
Speaker 1: Chuck Noll, he might be time for his life's work.
Speaker 1: Might be time for him in life's work. Um mccordin
Speaker 1: to Adam Schefter. Ben Roethlisberger underwent an m r ry
Speaker 1: on his right elbow that revealed he will need season
Speaker 1: ending surgery. This week. He will be placed on I
Speaker 1: r um Man. So the NFL landscape changes very quickly
Speaker 1: with the developments from yesterday to obviously well known names
Speaker 1: great Super Bowl champions of the past. Drew Brees will
Speaker 1: be back at some point this year. Ben Roethlisberger and
Speaker 1: Pitstogh will not. The Mason Rudolph era perhaps has begun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let me interject again. I mean that Mason Rudolph, who
Speaker 1: I think is pretty good, but he beat out Joshua
Speaker 1: Dobbs for that number two spot. Then Dobbs got traded
Speaker 1: this past week to Jacksonville. So right now they will
Speaker 1: be looking for a backup quarterback. They had Dobbs who
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty good, not not an NFL starter,
Speaker 1: but a pretty good backup or anything to happen, But
Speaker 1: he's no longer with the team. He's with Jacksonville. So
Speaker 1: they're probably uh, you know, ruined the day that they
Speaker 1: did that, but they're gonna be looking for another backup quarterback, um,
Speaker 1: you know. So we'll see what happens out there, But
Speaker 1: it looks like it's Mason Rudolph's team at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with close it out with the Monday Night game next week.
Speaker 1: Hard to transition from that to this, but uh, I
Speaker 1: happen to know what the Monday night matchup is because
Speaker 1: it involves my Redskins Washington. Yeah, Chicago at Washington. The
Speaker 1: Bears um one and one after their dramatic win over
Speaker 1: the Broncos yesterday. As we described it, imagine the Bears
Speaker 1: could have been owen two giving up twenty four total points.
Speaker 1: If they don't make that field goal yesterday. Imagine that
Speaker 1: they would they could have been owen to having only
Speaker 1: given up twenty four points. They're at the Redskins. The
Speaker 1: Redskins are owen two. The Redskins did what they did
Speaker 1: not as dramatically. They were up seventeen nothing on Philly.
Speaker 1: They did look good early against the Cowboys yesterday before
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ran them off the field. The Skins are
Speaker 1: the Skins. They're so six. There's such a six and
Speaker 1: ten team. Um, I would imagine the Bears are favorite,
Speaker 1: and I would imagine it's probably a tick more than
Speaker 1: a field goal, maybe three and a half on the
Speaker 1: road at FedEx, it looks like four and a half
Speaker 1: is the number, So fine with me. It looks a
Speaker 1: little speak to me. But boy, defense is for real.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that they have their problems on offense,
Speaker 1: no doubt, but that defense is very much for real?
Speaker 1: Is it the best in the NFL? Very easily could
Speaker 1: be good? Be they are good? I mean, let's listen.
Speaker 1: I know Green Bay has had some problems but still
Speaker 1: played Aaron Rodgers and played Denver, and I know Flacco
Speaker 1: is not what it used to be, Denver's not what
Speaker 1: they used to be. But two super Bowl winning quarterbacks
Speaker 1: they played, you know, and and giving up what point?
Speaker 1: You said? Yeah, So that's a that's a pretty good
Speaker 1: defense right there. And I don't see Washington lightened up
Speaker 1: the board against this this team. So I think four
Speaker 1: and a half's okay, maybe a shade high. But you
Speaker 1: know what, if you open the lower I know the
Speaker 1: public will come in on Chico, right, so, and and
Speaker 1: with the Redskins, you don't know what guys gonna play is?
Speaker 1: Is Reid gonna play? Is so again? For me, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: the most on the line, Philly, Casey got to consider Dallas.
Speaker 1: And I am just most flabbergasted by that, by that
Speaker 1: Patriots line being seventeen and a half. That's unbelievable. Jets
Speaker 1: sight unseen tonight, of course, Chrissie, thank you, I got
Speaker 1: to run, love you. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: All right, now, you got it. Christ and guessing lines,
Speaker 1: enjoy