WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: 1-on-1 With Woodson

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that. It's time for the break on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com were on the break. What's up? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Cowboys Break one on one. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been doing here this offseason. We're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>full shows, but we're trying to still do an element

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<v Speaker 1>of our shows and getting different guests in here. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of different guests we're running around these

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<v Speaker 1>other shows have done a great job, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go. I'm sorry. They say it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but this truly is the goat. And all you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is go to my office. If we ever

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<v Speaker 1>get to go there again, go to my office and

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<v Speaker 1>see this big picture I've got of Darren Woodson Woody.

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<v Speaker 1>What is up? Man? Thanks for joining me. Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. Can't wait for football season starting it? Uh? Look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's look. This sucks. I'm gonna last PAP and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a guiding it for the longest. You know me, I

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<v Speaker 1>travel all the time. I'm either doing engagements or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing business or whatnot. And I'm on the road and

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<v Speaker 1>I have bitched and complained about being on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing too much, and then COVID hits, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done anything. I'm at home. Now I'm away. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>bitching because I want to get back out and get

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<v Speaker 1>back on the road. Let's just let's just get this

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way right now. Okay. Darren asked us

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<v Speaker 1>before this thing started if if there could be some

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<v Speaker 1>cussing going on. So it's gonna be that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>party here, all right, As Mike Singletary said one time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be that kind of party. Just giving you

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<v Speaker 1>some free warning there. We'll see what our beat buttons

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<v Speaker 1>are working. But I don't really know. So, um, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, where are you? I mean, I'm home home, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm home. You know. I have my offices up at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star. Yeah, my two I think. But but on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Wednesday, it's Monday's Wednesdays, I go up to the Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the days from off. So we go a

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<v Speaker 1>group A Monday Wednesday, Group B goes Tuesday Thursday. So

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<v Speaker 1>today being Tuesday, I'm at home. Okay. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of alluded to it here before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into all this. You know, football talk. You said you're

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<v Speaker 1>excited about football, but you you let me just ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this, Barry Sanders in the open field and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to make this tackle. You want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>that or coronavirus clug. I've had to deal with both

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<v Speaker 1>because I had I ended up being uh tested positive

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID about in May mid May. Long story that

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<v Speaker 1>goes behind that, but you know, I was a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you know my wife, Tiffany, she's a hypochondriac.

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<v Speaker 1>And we sheltered our selves in this house and didn't move,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go anywhere. We you know, not so much quarantine,

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<v Speaker 1>but a whole lot of presents outside of himself but

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so we were being extremely care wife end

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<v Speaker 1>up going to Houston for a business and came back

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<v Speaker 1>and we ended up getting COVID to hoold the entire house, himself,

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<v Speaker 1>a wife, a nineteen year old, and a four year old.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had to deal with it, kick my kick

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<v Speaker 1>my butt for about three or four days, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it felt like. It in day two

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like at my age, at fifty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>at my age that I played a game at full game.

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<v Speaker 1>It got ninety ratts and the physical partner and waking

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<v Speaker 1>up the next morning. That's what it felt like. I

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<v Speaker 1>could barely move man for in day two because if

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<v Speaker 1>my body was just so sore. And in day three, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was fine. Day four, I was working out.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it hit me pretty hard for a few days.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I was the only one that got hit

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<v Speaker 1>that hard. My wife had no symptoms. Zero didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>cough or sneeze, he didn't have any effects. My little

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<v Speaker 1>my three year old or my whole year only had

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<v Speaker 1>a fever. Nineteen year old had a fever and he

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<v Speaker 1>got up the next day. On was no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the one that took it on chin for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days. So you compared it to a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a game that you won or you lost?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, on Monday morning you feel much differently

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd won that game or not. Was this a loss, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a double I got up with the belt on,

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<v Speaker 1>man I got on day day three, put the belt on.

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<v Speaker 1>He had me down, He had me on the ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he had me in the hard bar. For a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a way to squeeze out of that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you asked the question earlier. You know

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<v Speaker 1>which one would I rather see Barry Sanders in the

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<v Speaker 1>open field or COVID dude, Barry any day? Wow, Barry

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<v Speaker 1>any day man? Because just for that one day, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was I was. I was getting pound and round

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<v Speaker 1>and pound that day. That's some good perspective right there,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously there's not many safeties or defensive players that

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<v Speaker 1>played in the nineties that would be like, come on, Barry,

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<v Speaker 1>what you got so especially as a safety because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not anyone really behind you, so like it it's

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<v Speaker 1>you and that's something that you dealt with your whole career. So, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, I'm I'm glad you're doing well. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody you know in the in the I assume

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in your family's fine, perfect, so that that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>What m you said that this sucks, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that you said, just you know, in general,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have had it and you've dealt with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it's just changed all of our lives right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of what when you're talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>this sucks having every other day wear a mask and

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<v Speaker 1>just everything. Yeah, exactly, and and just being around people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, seeing you, seeing Chris, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the guys up at the at the facility, you know

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<v Speaker 1>office right there at the facility. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to get back to that normal seat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see my kid, my son, my four

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<v Speaker 1>year old, go back to school. That would be awesome

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<v Speaker 1>to the house, just the fact of having some normalcy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my neighborhood. We walk through the stores as families.

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<v Speaker 1>We have two or three families that will walk to

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<v Speaker 1>the store or go to the coffee shop, you have dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just think, you know, that part

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<v Speaker 1>of being in Dallas, and that part of just being

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<v Speaker 1>around folks, that's the part that that I just don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want to get back to that normal seat.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's hey, listen, COVID has affected a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different and a lot of people differently. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and to those who have really been affected, my heart

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to you because I've had some friends who've

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<v Speaker 1>lost their lives to COVID and it's nothing, it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to play around with. But at the same time, I just, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wish everybody the best, but you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to get back to that normalcy as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me as I transition into football, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just preface by saying, you know, we understand everybody understands

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<v Speaker 1>that football takes a major backseat to everything else that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So but still we like to talk about football. We

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<v Speaker 1>hope to kind of get that back. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to shift gears to that um and also talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the coronavirus. I mean, it's been such a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal as far as the NFL and the players Association

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what to do here. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing some players opt out, a couple of players on

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys roster opting out, and you know, the players

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<v Speaker 1>are making sure that they you know, getting tested every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what are your thoughts on that as far

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<v Speaker 1>as you know players risking, is it a risk reward situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that they should say, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting out there unless unless this thing is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent safe, or you know, do you you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the players that are saying, now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not I'm not doing I got a

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<v Speaker 1>family to protect. So I think players have options. They absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and that their health that they're putting their trouble one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they have option to say, no, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. I want to put myself, my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put anyone at risks. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna miss that mess the season. I can only

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<v Speaker 1>put myself in this situation. And you know, we've never

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<v Speaker 1>experienced anything like this. So what we did experience was

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven and that was traumatic to the country

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<v Speaker 1>and it was emotional. Um and I guess we missed

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<v Speaker 1>a I guess we missed a week of a game

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<v Speaker 1>or whatnot, But it was that was a traumatic part

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<v Speaker 1>of what I went through that this is totally different

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<v Speaker 1>because this has affected everyone in every vertical around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>around the world, and it's a process in which you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even individually, to look at yourself and say,

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<v Speaker 1>am I willing to take on the risks of walking

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<v Speaker 1>into a room of fifty three players and someone getting

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and now we're all exposed to it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking that back to the house my wife, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>my mom lives with me, who maybe of a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>years old and above. I mean, there's so many risks

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<v Speaker 1>that are inherent in being around a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have to be willing to take that risk.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was me, I would probably look, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been a guy that loved the game and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it back. I want to keep it natural

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<v Speaker 1>and keep the normal I want to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the normalcy or whatnot. I think I would to be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that would play I honestly do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have got that would have walked in, try

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<v Speaker 1>to understand all the repercussions and you know how we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go about testing and making sure the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room is safe, because safety is first in this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would want to know all there is to

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<v Speaker 1>know about that walking into that locker room and then exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, you know, listen, it is you

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<v Speaker 1>can't live in an I'd like the NBA is they're

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<v Speaker 1>living in a bubble. You know. In the NFL, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many moving parts. It's not just the players, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the training staff, it's the equipment staff, it's the PR department.

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<v Speaker 1>You have, so I mean, you have a huge group

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<v Speaker 1>of people, and then when you go play a game,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to trans transfer all that on a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>To a hotel and all that. So there's there's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard for the NFL to manage this. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand why players or some players are opting out.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to take care of their help, they'll take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the family. But then a guy like me,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't play. Yeah, you know, you're right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a weird time because you know, just an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL huddle, it's something that that we're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do right now. So distancing that's a major part of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you know. So it's gonna be really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that to see just this how this whole thing plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's let's assume that it does. Let's assume that that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna get this thing started and the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are gonna get them to play. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of talk about the safety position,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I that's something you know really yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>you know a little bit, you know, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys haven't really addressed it since Roy Williams like and

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<v Speaker 1>with a high pick and uh and you were playing

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<v Speaker 1>with him back then. So you know, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talk about them trading for players and it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't work out. Obviously with Jamal Adams, he was

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<v Speaker 1>traded recently to Seattles. Uh what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Two first round picks and a third round pick? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>That man? I love Jamal Adams, Carrolton, boy man, love

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<v Speaker 1>the kid out. He's top three safety in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, but yeah, but he was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I was just hoping the I was bring off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, specifically because the kid has so much passion

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<v Speaker 1>for the game. I mean, he loves to play the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he the best cover guy in the league now?

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<v Speaker 1>To say the position now? Probably not, But he finds

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get around the football. He finds a

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<v Speaker 1>way to be passionate on the field and then be

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<v Speaker 1>the leader in the locker room of loud at times

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<v Speaker 1>and noxious at time. People probably don't like him, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has that I don't give a damn attitude. What

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<v Speaker 1>you want the Charles Hayley type of mentality, what you

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<v Speaker 1>want on your team. So do I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>have really lifted this defense to another level? Absolutely? But

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<v Speaker 1>two first round picks and then it was a third

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<v Speaker 1>and then a player was it? Uh? Yeah, yeah, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a lot to give away. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>see the Cowboys given that away. Uh and basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting the risk, you know, first round picks that could

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<v Speaker 1>probably that could really impact your team. You know, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I know everybody says, well, he's a proven commodity. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting at the same position. But not right,

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<v Speaker 1>not two first round picks. I'm picking late twenties. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. But I'm no, I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that that happens a lot because people

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<v Speaker 1>will say, well, you know, no way the Cowboys should

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<v Speaker 1>have done that. It's just like seeing different people that

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<v Speaker 1>buy a car. Well, there's no way I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would spend money for that car. Well, because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford it. Seattle, you know, it's still rich. But Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>is picking late. They do have a quarterback under contract.

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<v Speaker 1>They have proven to be in the playoffs every year

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<v Speaker 1>here for the last few years. They kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>what they are. They may be a player or two away.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys can say that, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think Seattle. Yeah, but I wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>you think? What is Russell Wilson? I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Russell Russell Wilsons. They're thinking, Okay, my off

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<v Speaker 1>line hasn't protected me because I walked in the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a left tackle, uh a round guard.

0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been running around, trampling around, trying to save my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're gonna give up two first or a safety,

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<v Speaker 1>which ID He's probably looking at this like, uh little

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<v Speaker 1>little hit scratcher on his part. Thing. You know, look,

0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.400
<v Speaker 1>he needs he needs a protection, and you just gave

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<v Speaker 1>up two high picks for one guy. Now, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I will say. If you're Seattle, you you

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<v Speaker 1>make this, make this decision base on the fact. Believe

0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:42.479
<v Speaker 1>that he pushed sprints. He gives you the legitimate chances defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>To Ell, it's that much more to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>shot to be in the super Bowl, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any other way you could make that decision. You

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<v Speaker 1>just think, Okay, well we're gonna they're already a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 1>They're already a playoff team. We know su us again,

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<v Speaker 1>does Adams making a Super Bowl contender? And that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is I know he does not make He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>lift the defensive that much. No, no, no disrespect to

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<v Speaker 1>the position because you mastered it does any safety, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a safetan, there's a safety, there's position. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>are they effective enough to to make that much of

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. No, And I think now I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>say wide receivers put you in that category. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say a quarterback for sure, a tackle maybe, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, you know, I just feel out the

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<v Speaker 1>game is geared to so much that safety does it not?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make that big on a play to play situation

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<v Speaker 1>where he can tran transform the game, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>being imp player and uh, you know, give you point.

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<v Speaker 1>The same time, I still think that it's offensive the

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<v Speaker 1>way the game is played. Now, all right, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I agree with you on that. Now, the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have signed hat Clinton Dix, they got in Xaviel Woods

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<v Speaker 1>at the safety position. Their secondary is gonna a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit unproven there. So I'm gonna ask you this. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that this team, if you're looking at what

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have, are they in a position where they

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to outscore some teams? They got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of receivers they're gonna have, That's how they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to win games. Yes, Yes, is that I still

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<v Speaker 1>think I think they short some things offensive. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive line. I'm also curious to see even

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<v Speaker 1>some of these veteran players that are coming in that

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<v Speaker 1>they brought in, like Gerald McCoy. I love to see

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<v Speaker 1>what Gerald McCoy looks like here coming up, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>i'd be I'm very interested in Larry Pope, Ontario Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what he looks like. You know, at this age,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's moved around here and there and how

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<v Speaker 1>he fits in there. But you're gonna sit there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at the top football team. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I have at the quarterback position, at the running back

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<v Speaker 1>and still one of the top off the line in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. I think they can get better up front.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now you bring in a wide receiving corps one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>and three that can match up with anybody. Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put some points on the board. You got weapons

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<v Speaker 1>galore on the office side of the ball, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>up the back and that offense to put those points up?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Oh, look at you. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little so I needed a shirt on. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 1>looks good. You know I can't I look a little

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<v Speaker 1>link in that picture man, that makes one of us,

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<v Speaker 1>uh not me, but no. I was actually I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to go to the office and I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at stuff and I was like, oh, this shirt, What

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna do with that? I was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I ever get Woody to come on this WebEx, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, I actually have a glass too. They

0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>made these ring of honored glasses or whatever, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll drink that a little bit. Now. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to show some love there a little bit. So I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta ask you something. Nick. You're there every goal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're there every day. You cover this team weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>week out. Now I'm gonna give you the top three

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. And it's on the Cowboys team. And everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>already anointing them ass, you know, the best wide receiving cors.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard this time and time again, Michael Gallo, Amari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>Cede Lamb. Are you anointing them as the best wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiving corps in the NFL? I'm not. I'm not. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually did a poll on our own staff ranking all

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<v Speaker 1>the positions on the team. I didn't put them number one.

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<v Speaker 1>They got ranked that way because the other writers did

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<v Speaker 1>I think I see two Pro bowlers. I had two

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowls combined. I mean with both A Maria Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gallant on his way up and Ceedee Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>could be out outstanding. Um, but I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>there yet for for the top three, just because you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, yes, one to three sounds great. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like in basketball, who's your top three players?

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<v Speaker 1>That's great? But if Lebron's my number one, I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>good about it. So I don't know. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other teams that have a clear cut number

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<v Speaker 1>one receiver, um, this would be, are a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not there yet. Ceedee Lamb, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he could be outstanding, but I want to see how

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<v Speaker 1>it all plays. That's exactly where I am right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting to see the transition, because look, Ceedee Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>was phenomenal. At Ou used to love the wife. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to tune into use game even his freshman year,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in as a true freshman and playing about this

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>kid is ridiculously good at that level. I just you know,

0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>we see it every year. A college football player that's

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<v Speaker 1>elite at a position and he makes that transition and

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<v Speaker 1>he's no longer the same person. And I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see what he looks like. I want to see. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to practice to see what he looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if he has made that transition, who boy, whole boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Because now you have a guy that can really work

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field and it's not just about

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<v Speaker 1>to catch his catchability yet. If that carries over, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different weapon, totally different. Yeah, you're you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>What some of these highlights we've seen where he's just

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<v Speaker 1>catching the bubble screens and then we've been through people.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen a player on this roster that can

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<v Speaker 1>do that kind of stuff, right, So you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Gallup, I mean to me, Gallup has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to really be the Alvin Harper of Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't double everyone, you just can't fell safety. So

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<v Speaker 1>go win, you you know your battle. I think Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Jarwin's gonna get a lot of open looks, you know

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<v Speaker 1>down the scene. You just can't cover everybody. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's first up. As I've heard you mentioned Jarwin's name

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<v Speaker 1>a ton over the last year. I think you've I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've been pro jarrowin there for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You got me, you got me wrong, because no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I listen and I tell you anybody don't don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you, hey, just like I'm loyal to

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<v Speaker 1>my guys twenty eight, I'm loyal to eighty two as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was. I'm pro Witten all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>All I've said about Jarwin is we just don't don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of it was because Whitten was in the

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<v Speaker 1>way and Whitton never got off the field. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jarwin's gonna get a chance to really do some things.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, and I think athletically, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's really good. I just I wonder about, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can he be that blocker that you need? Is he

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be as consistent? But with this offense, he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get opportunities to do some good things. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think the one thing you're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>with jar one, especially what the other three wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>is the middle of the field will get stretched. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to get You're gonna have to do some

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<v Speaker 1>work defensively. One of the hardest things to do is

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<v Speaker 1>you have a wide receiver such as Amari Cooper. You're

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<v Speaker 1>always worried to concern about him. So it takes a corner,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a safety to double him or keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>out on looking for him, roll coverage his way or whatnot.

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Now you got backside, he got backside one on one,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be specifically if you have a tied end

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that can really run and stretch the middle of field,

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 1>now that presents so many problems, or the opposite side

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<v Speaker 1>of the field. So I look, I'm the best, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest Winton fan, but I do think that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to get more athletic at the position, and I

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>think jar One can't build that role. All right, what

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was your best defense that when you were with the Cowboys?

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean it has to be one of those with

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<v Speaker 1>Dion right, Uh no, no, no, the best defenses were

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>ninety two ninety three. And Deon is probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>player ever play as he's the best deepensive players. Shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>do his job, don't worry about him. He's gonna win

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>his battles one on one. But when you look at

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that ninety two ninety three team and the defensive line

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>rotation that was coming off bench, dude, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. I was spoiled in the back end because

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it was one thousand and one without that ball. Better

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>be out of your hand, Steve Young. She was calling

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>him out. Okay, Um, before you get you know, you

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>start naming those guys, it's probably better that you don't

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>say Dion because there's there's not a DN in the

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>league right now, no my opinion, So forget that. Nobody

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.719
<v Speaker 1>has that. So if on your best defensive team, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it ninety ninety three, because I want you

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely being in one of the starters ninety three or

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>ninety four. Um, how do you how does that defense

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>go up against this Cowboys team that on offense that

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 1>we expect. What are y'all trying to do here? Because

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you got you know, Cooper is going to be out here,

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Gallip will be over here, a CD all over the place,

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and did he got Zeke back there? Kind of defense

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<v Speaker 1>would you even think about to try to go up

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>against this offense? Look, I mean times have changed, man, Honestly,

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a hard that's like a hypothetical base

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>basically based on the fact that you know, in ninety two,

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you guy can basically grab you at a lot of scrimmage,

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>pull you down till it on your shirt. I had

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Smith, Larry Brown on the outside, I was working

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>with the slot. We had Robert Bailey, a lot of

0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>got different guys who are playing in the slot. This

0:24:59.920 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>is ninety three those seasons, you know, and then the

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>other safeties and all. So that's a tough match. That

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>would be a damn there impossible matchup for us to

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>win across the board, like individually, because they're gonna get there,

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>especially the way the game is played now. Individually, we're

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna get their wins hands down. I think the differences

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>is having a pass for us, a legitimate pass rush

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 1>on every down coming off the edge, either it be

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, Charles Haley or Tony Tolberd or bringing pressure

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>from the inside or Russell Maryland. At some point, it's

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>almost like like we just said, you gotta double somebody.

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna double Haley. You better believe now you're working

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.959
<v Speaker 1>one on one on the inside. And that's that's the

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>push that that defensive line had up the middle of

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the We're gonna push the same thing when you saw

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 1>when we put well through the young sucking on the

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>lollipop back too. But you see, you're not serious, right,

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you. I can tell you every game

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you played in nineteen ninety two and the score of

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the games. So don't don't don't start with that stuff, right, Okay,

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Okay. So, uh, you know when we when

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>playing the Super Bowl and Jim Kelly gets hurt because

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the pressure was so much in his face, Yeah, he

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>get hurt. He get hurt by Ken Norton. That's the

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>way Norton Junior hit him. Yeah. Ken Norton Junior is

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the one that actually heard him in that game that

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>was fifty two to seventeen that y'all won. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember the game. So that's how that's that's the

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>way you would play this team. It's like, I mean,

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I think anytime you played the Cowboys, you got a

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 1>pressure because you're not gonna I mean, especially now if

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>CD is who he is, it's gonna be hard to

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>defend them across the board. Um, in one on one situations,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get double. Hands down, he's getting double. Now,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be up to gallop in CD and Jar

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>want to win one on one battles. Just just just

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking about all that and just thinking about your offensive

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>line and how you know I picked in my opinion,

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought the best position this team has is his

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle. I just think that Tyrant is one of

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the best in the league still and Lyell is one

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of the best right tackles. That right there, that position

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is so solid. You got a running back core that

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>that I think is really good. Then you got the

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>receivers in quarterback. I mean your quarterback position is really

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>good too. You got a backup now that that started

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>so many and Dad's ready I think to take it

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to the next level. Um, I'm gonna ask you one

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>more question and then and then I know you gotta go. Um.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like there's some animosity? There will be

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>animosity Dak this team they get the deal done. Do

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you think Dak is professional enough to say, hey, we'll

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>worry about it when it's time to worry about it.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a job to do. I think he's gonna

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>do his job. He's gonna stay true to who he is.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>And what have we seen with Dak Prescott outside of

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>him not getting his deal done and he and the

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys not getting this done? Still done. He's been professional

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. He's been professional far to build

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>up to the season. As far as his work ethic,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be professional. He's probably gonna be even

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>more so going into this year because you can imagine

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if he has a light of lights out season this year,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>what that's going to look like next year and the

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>pressure that's going to put on the organization with Dak Prescott,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and that he's going to be a sour in the

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>locker room. That's not that's that's kid. He's gonna come

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to play. He wants me, and I think he want

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>he has that chip on his shoulder where he wants

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to show everyone that he is the guy in the

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. Tell us about your podcast. I know you

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>had Michael Ever on the other day. You got Tyler Kless.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>That's on there with you. You guys are you guys

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are doing it weekly? Right? Doing it weekly? Yeah? You

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>got who was some of the guests you got coming up?

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You got anybody hard. It's hard to top Michael. That

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>was That was awesome. That was outstanding awful. Listen and

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I lost you. I lost you the first second there. Okay,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, that's okay, okay, what's all got me now? Yeah?

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I got you now. So we had we just did

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Eric Crescy yesterday, who is for all those that are

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that are baseball fans and baseball players or have young

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kids that are that want to play baseball. Eric Cresci

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>is the guy that works with shoulders. Uh. He works

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>with over one hundred MLB players that come and train

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>with him with about arm strength, pitching, whatever position player

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to be. But there's a phenomenal job working

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>with them. So any kids that are out there are

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>families or moms and dads that want to talk baseball,

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>tune into our last week's show. But we have so

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>many guys that have come on again, you mean, and

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Mike Troy came on about a month ago and it

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>was the first time and I've known Troy forever and

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we got into the depths of you know, his transition

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>from his childhood, how he was brought up this time

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma uh, And it was the first time that

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>we really pulled back that onion of Troy as the

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>person I've ever heard anyone for. So but you know,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>we have so many more. We have Dion coming on

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. I'm trying to get my boy Emmett to

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>get on here, assumed. And it's not so much about

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. It's not so much about where they are now.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>We want to talk about the story of the journey

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>of Emmett, you know, as a kid, the ups and downs,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the highs and lows, or the winds and losses, and

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>what made him who who he is today. So that's

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the that's the the Darren Witchard show man. It's all

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>about the journey going forward. So that's right now. Can't

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to check check those out. And and you

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>told me a story one time about Troy Aikman that

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget. Just I think you were going through

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 1>some kind of weird financial thing and something that happened

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and he got in the newspaper and he pulled you aside,

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and you were still a young guy at the time,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and pulled you aside and said, you know, ask for

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, if he could help you with anything. And

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that was a Troy that you didn't even know existed.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think at the time I had no idea this.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And that was a ninety four or ninety three, ninety

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>four man. He stepped up to the plate, man and

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the true leader that he was just you know, gay man,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, shoulder to lean on. So he was phenomenal. Man.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>He was phenomenal on the podcast as well well. And

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I know this because I got to cover you at

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of your career and those shoulders that you had.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of young, defensive backed, young players

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>any side of the ball leaning on your shoulders as well.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>That there's there's never really, in my opinion, been a

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive leader like you on our you know, on this

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>team that I've seen in the last few years. So, uh,

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you said you were what fifty fifty one? I think

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you can still No, no, no, yes, it's not really

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that much difference. Yeah, my brain tells me that got Yeah,

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>my body is saying, hell no, I'll stop paying. You're

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>lying to you. But but I can say this, Nick,

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm still the big the number one Cowboy fan in

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the world. I mean, I believe that blue and that

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>star means so much to me, man, and the fan

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>base has always been great to me. Um, you know,

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>throughout the years, and my family and and also you know,

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm the same guy and I want to see you

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in the Star and I want this team to go

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to the Super Bowl. Bro me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Well a lot of times people say, man, you you've

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>been there so long, you've seen it all, and I'm like, no,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen an NFC championship game. Yeah exactly. But

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>but what you said about being you know, true to

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the you know cowboys, being a cowboy forever. Uh, that story.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I know you when you went in the Ring of Honor,

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that was awesome, But the day you got told that

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you were going in, when Jerry was like, Darren, come

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on up here, and your first thought was grabbing getting cut,

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean You're like, oh no, I'm not a player anymore,

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so what could this mean? But just you know, you

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>never played for anyone else. You know, you're Dallas cowboy,

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>no shot in it and those guys that did it,

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>but because you don't understand it, you know, but man,

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you're a Dallas cowboy forever and getting just I remember

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you talking to you that day. You were so happy,

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>so relieved to finally get in and you're gonna be

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be happy. Yeah, that day that that that

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen for you in Canton. I know it

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>will I about wouldn't Wit made a decision to go

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Raiders. I was thinking about that same time.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I was at the practice and I was downstairs. I

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was working at espand of the time when the Jones

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>has asked me to come up to the tower and

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>present to me to be there, you know, being the

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor or whatnot. But I was sitting there

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking about that moment, Man, and I

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just wish, like I love with Man, he's been phenomenal.

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I just wish he would have thought through the process

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of you know, this is where I started, this is

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>where it should end. I mean, that star, what he's

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>meant to this organization for that many years, It's going

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to be hard. And I saw in it go to

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Arizona and broke my heart. Man, to watch him play

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>with in another jersey. It's sort of the same thing.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>We tune in this year and we see eighty two.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if he's going to be number

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>eighty two in Oakland. I mean, that's going to be

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a hard thing to take a look at, man, because

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, once you start hearing with this organization, Man,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I firmly believe needed end, especially when you're not twilight

0:34:55.040 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of your career, goad end of the at home. Yeah.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me say this though, and this is a perspective.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had this perspective. I saw

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>every time went and caught a pass last couple of seasons,

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, this year and then two years ago, and

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>every time he gets tackled is all everyone's snickering in

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the lot in the press box, and then think he's

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>too old, all this stuff. When he made that one

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.919
<v Speaker 1>handed catch against the Rams, everybody was like, what, who's that?

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's heard about it and he's I think he

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>still feels like he can play. You know, he wanted

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to come here, and he wanted to come here. Let's

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>make no mistake that the head coach did not want

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.479
<v Speaker 1>that to be a part of what they were doing.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, he still feels like he could play.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I kind of I get it. But man wearing that

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>black and goal. Yeah, well, I'm glad we're not playing

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>him in the preseason or you know, not not having

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to see it. Of course, he's not the only one.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of former Cowboys over there, coaches and players.

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's the where it goes. But hey, maybe

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>he just wants to go to Vegas. You know who knows.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know you got somewhere to be. It's

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>went way longer than than we were supposed to go,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>but I could. I could go another hour, just because

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's so great catching up with you, so thank you

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. Woody, no problem, man, get

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>back in touch with your brother. We'll talk later. To go,

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Jared Woodson, see it. That's one on one Cowboys break.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next time.