WEBVTT - Mick Shots: A Little Sunshine 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.760 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:12.799 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Nick 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.000 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:22.279 official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:29.880 and Nicky Spagnola. Well, it is an offseason version of 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.879 Mixed Shots, and I thought here inside the us WBC 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.320 podcast studio we might get a there. It is there. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:45.680 It is exactly exactly what I was hoping this reministion 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.000 that is that for the Senior Bowl coming on. No, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.839 it's not for the Seminar Bowl. You know, we can't. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.120 I love it, but you know, it kind of lifts 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.680 my spirits a little bit because gray outside. But it's 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:04.120 really not still Bray. No, it's not not today, not today, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.840 not today. There's a reason that we are playing Stampede 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:15.520 because the off season starts now. And there's good news 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:20.479 here in cowboy Land. To William, the defensive coordinator is 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:26.200 staying still here. Dan Quinn remains a Dallas Cowboy. He 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.080 wants to win a Super Bowl a year from now, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.840 and so he is staying. And so that's why we 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.080 start off Mix Shots with stamping that is a that 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.880 is a really optimistic stretch there, William. But I'll take it. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.039 I'll take it that it's finally coming out from under 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.080 the cli. I can see a little slow glimmer, even 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.160 though it's a cloudy day you're in Frisco, Texas. There 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:56.760 is a light that we see and he was under. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.600 I mean so many people were Interviewingham, planned interviews. He 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.480 was supposed to be in Chicago yesterday for an interview. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:11.239 He interviewed with the Giants, the owners, the president, the 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.440 new general manager, the vice president of player personality. He's 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.799 good friends with the Broncos owner new owner and he's 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.600 supposed to get that job, and interviewed with the Vikings 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.919 and Jacksonville along that. Mostly he informed everybody. It's been 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.760 reported that he is pulling out and staying with the 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.560 Dallas Cowboys. I mean, he had the Giants, the Bears, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:43.200 the Broncos, the Vikings in Miami either interviewed or scheduled interviews. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.919 And I thought the Giants think might be real just 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.560 because of going back home. Basically grew up on the 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.360 other side of the Hudson in New Jersey, and you know, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:58.119 he interviewed well everywhere, Oh the guys from the Giants 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.880 dot com are our good friend. Schmelk called me and 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.640 we did an interviewed on Thursday when we were talking 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.160 about you know him and what he does, and he goes, 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.560 what's his best quality? And I said, well, if he 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.760 wants the job, if he walks into a room and 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.680 they interview him in person, he will get it. Yeah, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:23.720 because of just his personality and resume. You're right, and 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.359 what he did hear the dramatic, but you know, I 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:33.000 always just the way he sort of tiptoed into it, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.160 I had this sneaky suspicion this is going to have 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.640 to be perfect, wanting to wait until after the season 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.520 before he did any of the and just the way 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.840 he answered, I know that's what happened. Guys. Okay, See, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.040 I was one of those guys came out of college. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.200 I was never recruited from out of high school. It 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.160 was never a big deal. I didn't get any of 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.360 those trips, recruiting trips and things that nature. When I 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.240 finally left the Cowboys, I had a chance to go 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.800 to Seattle and then New York. To me, that's my 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.240 recruiting trip. I'm reliving that. I never not reliving I 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.520 never had a chance to live that. I think with him, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.040 I think he just likes to travel. This is like 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.080 like like if you would have got that recruiting trip 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.960 to Hawaii, you would have taken it. I wouldn't. Maybe 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.840 not a stage, but I would have gone on recruiting 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.599 trip I got. He's just enjoying himself. He's being quoted. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.840 They got three he got a free trip back home. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:30.719 Yeah right, he's trip to Chicago for Denver. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:35.400 he's just taking vacation. I went back and and I 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.280 remember when all this came up and he had this 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.920 quote out there and said, I think for me coming here, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.919 I wasn't coming here to look at what my next 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.400 job would be. I wanted to come in here and 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.560 have a blast and hopefully kick ass and make an impact. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.360 If those moments come, I'll be ready for them if 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.080 the right scenario came about. But honestly, I'm having a 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.800 blast right here with this crew, and and we're going 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.000 for it. That's where my mind is. So this was 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:08.440 before the playoffs started, so you know, just listening to that. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:14.320 Um So it sounds like probably his representative, it's being reported, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.120 but probably called these teams and said, hey, we're we're 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.360 staying here. And it's not like he hadn't been there before, right, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.640 I mean, come on, And I don't know which came first, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.479 because the Bears announced their hirling Matt Eberflus, the Cowboys 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.400 former linebackers coach, and this will make you feel hold, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:37.760 the Broncos hired Nathaniel Hackett, the son of Paul Paul Hackett, 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.840 who is now authority. Yeah I didn't know him. Yes, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.600 that's crazy. And Hackett was here for three seasons eighty six, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:53.520 eighty seven, and eighty eight with the coensive coordinator. Well, no, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.920 he was. Paul Hackett was coach a Pit before Kansas City. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.360 so he ended he's a Cowboys offensive coordinator and then 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.440 he was at Pitt and then wound up in Kansas 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:09.560 City and the end and actually right, yes, and actually 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.919 he's the reason McCarthy ended up at Kansas City because 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.360 he left Pitt. I think he got fired. He went 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.960 to Kansas City and he brought McCarthy along as off 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:27.640 or a quality control colleague control. Yeah, McCarthy was. He 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.239 was a GA and then wide receivers coach at Pitt 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.720 under Paul Hackett and then Hackett got hired by Marty 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.520 Schottenheimer as the offensive coordinator and McCarthy was there throughout. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.960 And so Nathanial Hackett now forty two years old. He 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.599 was born in nineteen seventy nine, so he would have 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.960 been at Pitt probably as a ball boy when McCarthy 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.039 was on the staff with Paul Hackett, he would have 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.000 been what ten to twelve years older and that time, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.599 and then in Kansas City too with when Joe Montana 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.680 was quarterback in Kansas City. Had always had the he 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:06.479 always had that enthusiastic attitude about himself. You know. I 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.200 think he really did love being here in Dallas, you know, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.640 playing coaching on the time, and there was a time 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.760 that it was thought that he might succeed Tom Land. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.800 That's why he was so happy when he got here, 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.680 and he was so unhappy when he left because he 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.120 really thought that that was going to be. He thought 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.480 he was the next He really did, because he came 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.640 into the lock of home and he was excited all 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.160 the time. And then as things started to weigh a 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.760 little bit, you can kind of see his enthusiasm. He 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.680 and Tom I don't think well, I think that got 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.440 forced on Tom, and then he knew that the Hackett 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.800 knew that, and so Hackett knew that Tom did not 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.800 appreciate that. So because there was that, and if you 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:50.160 remember what happened, Tex wanted Stoutner out as defensive coordinator. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:57.400 And so basically even before Tom the sale went down 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.040 and Tom was removed, Hackett was going one out because 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.480 of what texts forced them to do with Ernie Stottner. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.080 And let's give let's give Ernie his love. Ernie like 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.880 the youngest Pro Football Hall of Famer ever electively, if 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.520 I'm not mistaken, so I want yeah, yeah, and so. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.480 But also when Hackett got here, there's that eighty six season, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.880 and things started pretty well in that eighty six number one, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.720 number one offense in the league, until Danny White had 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.160 his wrists broken and broke a ligament in there or 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.679 whatever you want to call. And then they bloom came 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.120 up with Paul Hackett. Rose. Yes, it did quickly well. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.680 I went from six and two to seven and nine. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.320 I want, I want to get this in before the 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.040 breaking at the beginning. Do y'all know what today is? 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:51.760 January twenty seventh, No, no, no, it's not, it is 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.440 it is January twenty seven. But I gotta put my 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:01.000 anniversary in there, guys a few days ago. But you know, uh, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.440 he's trying to save face. He must have forgotten. No, no, no, no, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.160 no, no no no. I mentioned it on the podcast. You're 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.640 looking it up on your phone. See it's okay, man. No, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.240 this is the twenty fourth anniversary of my giants victory 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.760 over the fourty. Oh there you go. Okay. I just 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.400 wanted to come. I thought Bill was gonna finish it 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.520 for me. Again, when you mentioned the anniversary, I was 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:26.760 thinking or personal. Well that is personal. Yeah, that's two us. No, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.000 but this is the day we kicked that booty man 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.640 and I ended up going to uh end up going 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.960 to Tampa and playing in the Super Bowl. So we 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.920 had to beat San Francisco first fifteen. So it's my 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.920 anniversary too because I was at that game. Oh wow, cool. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.840 And you saw a little Matt Barr. Matt Bar, you 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:47.160 and Matt Pobbly the same height. Yeah, a little Matt 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.840 gave us five field goals? Was it? Fifteen thirteen? Fifteen thirteen, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.560 baby class thirteen? That was that. That San Francisco team 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.040 was supposed to be one of the best teams in 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.920 the history of the NFL, and I remember writing the reason, uh, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.680 San Francisco didn't win is because the Giants didn't let 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.240 Joe Montana have one more shot at the end of 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.000 the game. They had the ball, and well, yeah, he wasn't. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.439 He was sitting up on the bench. Yeah, I know, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.400 I'm sorry he was laying on it. That was the key. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.120 I said. They said, what happened? Joe said, what do 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.000 you have? He said, what does it hurt? He said, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.800 everywhere I have? The lawns. Taylor pretty much knocked him 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.720 into Kansas City. That's what I say. He didn't wake 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.040 up till he until he got to Kansas City. But 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.280 that was the last play for him, if I'm not 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.440 mistaken as a forty nine interesting So it all tied 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.120 together with Paul Hackett in Kansas City and then Joe 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.960 Montana and Kansas City. You go, Montana woke up in 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.200 Kansas This is a tangent, but I saw him get 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:49.040 beat up like that. At Notre Dame season opener nineteen 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.680 seventy eight. Missouri beat Notre Dame and their former head 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:58.920 coach Dan Divine, Dan Divine three to nothing, and they 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:04.000 they they stopped. They stopped Notre Dame inside the five 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.920 yard line, like in golden goals situations, like three times, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.360 and Divine was so up at he he we're not 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.960 kicking a field goal and tie, and we're gonna win 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:18.280 this game right. And afterwards there was an Elton John 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.840 concert on campus and we finished our work, went into 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.120 a bar, and who comes in by himself, walking with 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.480 his arms pinned to his side was Joe Montana. Because 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.360 he got the living daylights beat out of him. Why 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.560 is he there by himself? Why where was he? Where 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.520 was that concert? No? No, no, not at the concert. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.480 At the bar, he walked by himself, and he was 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.720 just beat up. I mean, he was beat up so bad. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:54.160 He didn't no one walked in with him. He was 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.560 by himself. You want to tell you want me to 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.360 tell you my Joe Montana bar story from about that 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:05.200 same era. Wait, let me finish? Okay, So so did we? 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.320 I said, I said it was Elton John. It was 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.360 Billy joel Okay, I remember his famous song right about 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.160 then Catholic girls start much too late. They prohibited him 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.800 from singing that song at that concert Notre Dame campus. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:25.280 Oh there you go all right, my little and write 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.360 a little Joe Montana story. Okay. This was when the 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.559 Notre Dame played the Cotton Bowl against Houston and it 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:37.680 was icy there. Yeah, okay, and Joe Montana, you know, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.640 at Notre Dame, he did not I mean he went 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.599 for a couple of years at least without even playing that. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.200 I mean, he was a late bloomer at Notre Dame 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.080 and so but he had a great last season there 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:53.760 led him to Cotton Bowl. So it was Christmas week, Okay, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:58.400 Christmas week. I'm at with friends at up your Alley 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:03.920 on Greenville. Yeah, that was my spot with Bony and Wilson. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.400 There you go, all right. But anyway, so the Notre 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.600 Dame football team had arrived in town that day, and 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.400 so they were hanging out at the bar and I'm 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.800 back playing pool with friends whatever. And there was a 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.440 guy that looked like the manager of the Notre Dame 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.559 football team. Huh, because he looked like me. He was 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.280 a smaller guy. Okay, smaller guy played and play him. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 I played pool against whatever. The next morning, I wake 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.520 up front page of the Dallas Morning News. There's a 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.360 picture of the Notre Dame football team getting off and 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.720 it's the guy I played pool against the night before 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.600 with a big old ten gallon hat that they gave him. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:51.480 It was Joe Montana. Oh come on, man, how could 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.560 I had no idea who who he was? He wasn't Jail, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.880 that's right, it was before he was Joe Montana. By 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.280 the way. At the end of that year, didn't he 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.720 make the great come back against Houston? Yeah? Yeah, So 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.480 he starts off in Missouri like that, it ends up 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.880 in the Cotton Bowl, one of the coldest games, by 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.600 the way, right, he ended up in the Liberty Bowl. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.320 And speaking of Missouri, you're have to be proud that 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.360 Matt Ebraflus, a former coach at Missouri, is a head 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.120 coach in the NFL, and of course former linebackers coach here, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:28.920 as you mentioned, we met, um, No, it was here. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.120 I was thinking of Zoom Zoom and I met in 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.640 seventy nine as he was a graduates head coach. Was good, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.240 he was real good here, and had they not hired 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.440 him when they did, he probably would have been the 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.840 defensive coordinator here at some point. Well. And and you 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.040 know he had so much respect for Rod Marinelli, right too, exactly, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.360 And so he winds up and going to Indianapolis, and 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.240 they've had a pretty good defense up there, and uh, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.200 now he gets his chance. So it'd be interesting to know. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.760 I mean, obviously it came down to Quinn Abrafluce whatever, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.120 and was was Quinn offered it or was right exactly, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.160 So we don't know which came first. Did I pull 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.320 out or after I knew I wasn't getting the job. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.640 That always kind of takes place. But that's good news 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.160 for the cowboys. And remember we've got an hour show, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.520 so yes we do. Yeah, so we're we're gonna hang 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:33.840 with this. Well now, so how good is the Mislike, um, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.800 how good is the news that Dan Quinn is coming back? Yeah? 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.520 I think that's uh, that's really good news to you know, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:48.160 have some cottinude with the defense, you know, and and hey, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.440 you know, he's got a couple of really good players 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.960 that maybe he looked around and said, okay, I'm I'm 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:59.040 staying with these guys. They're just good players. Yeah, he's 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.680 a young player that he can deal with. That part, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.200 to me probably makes him stay more than anything, because 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.240 where you're going to find that type of youth and talent, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.880 but anywhere on the Cowboys defense. You know, you just 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:16.120 can't jump at the first head coaching job that comes 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.760 around after you know, obviously it was and his experience 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:24.640 in Atlanta. He learned a lot from that experience to 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.760 making sure that it's the right spot to go to, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.960 especially when you've got a great job as it is 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.200 right now, especially great young talent on this Dallas defense, right, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.760 and he as I think it was Tom whoever, Tom 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:43.280 Pelliser whoever, said, Okay, he should be a hot name 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.240 again next year. Okay, yeah, he should be a hot 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.640 name again next year if things if things go right. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.040 And you also, if you're going to take a head 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.760 coaching job, what's the first thing, Well, the first thing 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.840 you're probably looking at is the organization, right, Howard's run 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.920 the GM. Now, who's my quarterback? Because there's a reason 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.520 why these other guys are getting fired because they didn't 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.760 have a quarterback usually, right, Don't think of the name, Yeah, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.000 think of the teams that he interviewed with and where, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.600 you know, with the Jios in their quarterback situations. Quinn 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.920 probably defense and said, oh Jayala Smith on this team, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.439 I'm out. No, you know, Miami, who knows what's going 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:33.040 to happen with Minnesota, you know. So yeah, so Quinn stays, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:41.120 and UM, I'm wondering if that affects what Joe Whit 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.000 Junior does, because I was thinking if he went somewhere, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.680 he was going to try to bring Whit with him 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.160 with him, uh as his defensive coordinator. And he's had 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.520 I think three teams, if I'm not mistaken, Uh, I 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.520 want to interview him Baltimore, Seattle, and I think it 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:04.399 was Cargo too, or maybe it was Denver, uh for 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:09.840 the defensive coordinator job, so he was in demand too. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.280 I wonder if he'll you know, I guess you. You 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.639 don't have to let him leave to be a coordinator, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:21.920 do you if you're under contract? And what I'm trying 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:26.520 to remember, if you're up, it's an upward move. And Okay, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.119 what is officially his title here? Pass game coordinator? So 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:35.960 does that count? Coordinator job? That's just that just gets 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.880 you a raise. It doesn't get you a coordinator per se, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.160 because there's only three coordinator positions on a team by 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.800 the NFL standards, Offensive, defensive, and special teams all right, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.199 report out there among the names expected to receive second 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:56.440 interviews from the Dolphins Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, forty 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.359 nine Ers offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel, and Bill's OC Brian 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.199 day Ball Giant more a second interview in Miami, and 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:08.040 the Giants are acting like Dayball's their guy. Everything I've 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.040 read so far in the papers up there. Uh, the 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.679 new GM came from Buffalo, I believe. Yeah, right now, 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.560 you gotta be patient in New York, right, I mean, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.800 you can't expect someone to just go in winning. You know. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.080 I think what they saw with Judge was no no improvement, right, 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.840 you know what I mean? There was no progress. Then 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.280 they saw a quarterback sneak on a third and eight 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:35.800 from the three yards. Yeah, that was degress. So as 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.480 long as you don't show those characteristics as a team 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.239 and as a coaching staff, you know you can, they 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.160 can show you patients, you know what I mean. But 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.359 that's not gonna be a quick fix up in New York. No. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.520 And you know what I think I read where you know, 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.760 the new GM was talking about, Okay, we got to 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.199 fix this offensive line, right, we got to fix our 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:02.520 our defense. And that takes and and and and I 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.840 think the story was about them saying, oh no, it 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:10.159 was the owner saying that we put too much of 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.439 the blame. Not we, but too much of the blaine 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.960 was put on Daniel Jones, that we need to find 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.200 out what he is like because they got to pick 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.680 up They have the opportunity to pick up his fifth 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.119 year this year, and are you going to do that 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.280 or you're gonna let him play, see what happens and 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:32.639 then you can franchise. I never thought they put a 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.840 good offensive line around here. No, they did. Then the 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.160 injuries must have come up and bidden them in the bud. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.160 And I'll guarantee you that probably one of the reasons 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.840 if Jason, Garrett and Judge putted heads. You know, Jason 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.080 wanted to put an offensive line out there and they 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.600 just didn't do it, seemed to refuse to do it 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:58.120 and tried to piece it together. But yeah, so now 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.240 they used the fourth pick in the draft last year 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.120 on a left tackle Andrew Thomas. Yeah, wrong guy? Huh 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.920 did he play? Yeah? Think he finally got out there. Yeah, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.040 and he showed some improvement initially in his second year, 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.439 at the end of his rookie year and then the 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.720 beginning of this year. Uh was was it? There? They 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.800 spent the big money on the six nine tackle yeah 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.560 Soldier so yeah, and uh and he opted out last 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:29.360 year right and and high second round pick on Will Hernandez, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.920 a guard and he had got hurt. That was That 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.080 was in twenty eighteen. So I mean recently they have 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:40.680 they have spent some draft capital on um offensive linement. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.400 But you have to really like what Garrett did here, 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.520 you with the offensive line here with first with Tyrn 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.800 Smith and then Travis Frederick and Zach Martin. You have 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.720 to really invest in it. And there were eight and 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.200 eight years that year that I was going to say. 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.320 The patient still has to be the trial. You're getting 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.440 these players. It's not like you know things are on hold. 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.440 The season is not on the hold. You're still going 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.840 to be trying to win games and most likely losing 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.240 those games until you get the people that you want. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.880 And one of the things, other than one game this weekend, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:21.120 offensive lines made a huge difference, except for Cincinnati guy 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.720 won a game getting sacked nine times? Are you kidding? 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.840 How many? How many touchdowns did they score? Did they 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:34.720 score touchdown? Field goal kicker? The one goal kicker is 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:39.359 the star rookie scored one a rookie, So they have 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.560 not been able to finish in the red zone. No 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.360 more than we have here in Dallas. A matter of fact, 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.639 we're better than they are in regards to that. And 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.919 they still won the game against a heck of a 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.720 squad that they play again, I say, this past weekend. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:54.600 And how about that's four of the best games I 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.840 think I've say nine ers won a game without scoring 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:02.920 an offensive touchdown. That crazy. Okay, we need to get 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.680 into that. We also need to get into the other 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.159 elephant in the room, and we will, Oh yes, we do. 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:14.080 And it's speaking of coaches. It's a big one. 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