Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Your name?
Speaker 2: My name's Max Max mm hmm, And I have a
Speaker 2: little bit of a hypothetical for you. I thought it
Speaker 2: would be interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, what's the hypothetical?
Speaker 2: So hypothetically, I read an article on Vice one time. Right, So, hypothetothetically,
Speaker 2: if I had my leg amputated and I got to
Speaker 2: keep it right, and then I hired a professional fougias
Speaker 2: death like Gordon Ramsey Bobby Flay to uh cook this
Speaker 2: leg into burrito or something like that, would you take
Speaker 2: a bite?
Speaker 1: Would I take a bite of your leg?
Speaker 2: I guess anyone's legs. I don't think I have anything
Speaker 2: wrong with my leg.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so a world class chef prepares a human leg,
Speaker 1: not my leg, just a random leg. When I take
Speaker 1: a bite of the leg, m uh, where did they get.
Speaker 2: That h of a person?
Speaker 3: You got?
Speaker 2: I guess? Okay, I guess you would have to have
Speaker 2: the leg from me because I'm hiring the guy to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me there you Okay? So I
Speaker 1: just gonna ask, is like, is every if? Because look,
Speaker 1: if a guy is giving up his leg, why is
Speaker 1: he giving up? Why are you giving up your leg?
Speaker 1: How did you lose your leg? I need way more details.
Speaker 2: It would already it was already dead. Like this is
Speaker 2: just purely coincidental. And I'm like, Okay, why not get
Speaker 2: some use out of this dead leg that's severed off
Speaker 2: with my body?
Speaker 1: Sure, all right, I'm gonna plan. I'm gonna pull it
Speaker 1: like this if I had a friend, I've had a
Speaker 1: rich friend, let's say, lost his leg in some whatever,
Speaker 1: crazy accident, but he got to keep it and they
Speaker 1: couldn't put it back on, And my friend called me
Speaker 1: up and he was like, la, listen, I'm hiring Gordon
Speaker 1: Ramsay to make a delicious meal out of my leg,
Speaker 1: and I would like you to come to my house
Speaker 1: for dinner tonight to eat my leg with me. One
Speaker 1: hundred percent I would say, yes, absolutely, I would eat.
Speaker 1: I would eat my friend's leg with him. So, I
Speaker 1: guess to answer your question, it would really depend on
Speaker 1: if if it was a random guy's leg, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would do it, But if I knew the person,
Speaker 1: because it's an intimate thing to eat somebody, and so
Speaker 1: I would. I would want to know the person. I
Speaker 1: would want to have a relationship with them before I
Speaker 1: ate their leg.
Speaker 2: I guess this is uh, this is an icebreaker. I
Speaker 2: like to use a lot.
Speaker 1: As one of the first things you bring up in
Speaker 1: conversation with a person.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, especially how does that go for you? Usually
Speaker 2: makes me seem a little nuts. But then like, if
Speaker 2: they match the crazy, you know, it's it's gonna go fine.
Speaker 1: That's brilliant, That's that's pretty smart.
Speaker 2: I would think.
Speaker 1: So, all right, what about you? Would you eat the leg?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hell yeah, dude, I would purely because like, you're
Speaker 2: never going to get that meat again, right, like, unless
Speaker 2: you're a fucking cannibal. And some people answer this like, oh,
Speaker 2: once you eat a little bit of the leg, you're
Speaker 2: just a cannibal. And I can't get past that.
Speaker 1: Well you you, but hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: If you eat the leg, you're totally I don't know
Speaker 1: if we need to put a whole label on it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you, as a person become
Speaker 1: a cannibal, but you are I mean, what it really
Speaker 1: is a cannibal?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Is it a person who regularly engages in cannibalism. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if your whole existence needs to be
Speaker 1: labeled with your cannibal But you are absolutely undeniably engaging
Speaker 1: in an act of cannibalism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mike, it's ethical cannibalism, I think I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if it's ethical as in, like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if ethical means it produces active good, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it produces active harm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of a neutral.
Speaker 1: It's it is a very neutral cannibalism. That's a great
Speaker 1: way to put it. So, yes, I would engage in
Speaker 1: neutral cannibalism. I can't think of a situation in which
Speaker 1: cannibalism would produce a positive effect, can you?
Speaker 2: Uh, maybe if your friend dies in the zombie apocalypse
Speaker 2: and you really like out of starvation or something, and
Speaker 2: you're just stranded in the middle of nowhere and you
Speaker 2: have nothing to eat, I can see how cannibalism would
Speaker 2: have a positive effect there.
Speaker 1: Right, Or if like there's a dead guy in front
Speaker 1: of a door that a bunch of people are trying
Speaker 1: to get into the place that the door leads to,
Speaker 1: and you eat the dead guy so that people can
Speaker 1: get into the door, that would that would be a
Speaker 1: positive effect for other people. So there is positive cannibalism
Speaker 1: and neutral cannibalism. Yeah, and all and also bad cannibalism.
Speaker 1: There's situations in which eating a person is bad too.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to I got a three sixty view
Speaker 1: of cannibalism over the course of this call. Where is
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 2: Yes or does it cross into bad territory?
Speaker 1: Do you think I think if you kill a person
Speaker 1: with the express intent of eating their dead body after
Speaker 1: you kill them, I think that is bad. Interested, Max,
Speaker 1: Is there anything the computer before we got Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just glad you took my time on this.
Speaker 2: I was having a bad night. You made it pretty good. Man.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, if you ever, if you ever do
Speaker 1: lose your leg and you want me to come eat
Speaker 1: your leg with you, I would do it.
Speaker 2: I'll give you. I'll give you a call.
Speaker 1: Man, Thanks for calling. Man. Yeah, he said you got it,
Speaker 1: but I cut them off at the end. Hey, is
Speaker 1: this gummy worm?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So gummy worm? What's going on with you?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: This is oh, yeah, this is pretty cool. Yeah. I
Speaker 5: got diagnosed with a thing with my eyes. It was
Speaker 5: called retinitis pigman tosa, and it's like basically going to
Speaker 5: take my vision in the next like five, ten, fifteen years.
Speaker 5: Somewhere in that window of time, and this has happened
Speaker 5: pretty recently, so it's just kind of given me a
Speaker 5: lot of It's given me like a new perspective on
Speaker 5: what I should be doing with my days in my
Speaker 5: life and my future and stuff.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. What kind of perspective has it given you
Speaker 1: as to what you should be doing?
Speaker 5: I think for the most part, I think it's given
Speaker 5: me sort of this sort of this more go get
Speaker 5: them type attitude towards like, you know, getting the things
Speaker 5: I want and seeing, like going out and seeing and
Speaker 5: doing things. Because I used to be kind of a
Speaker 5: it used to be kind of like a social like introvert,
Speaker 5: kind of shut in a little bit, not really like
Speaker 5: wanting to do much and not really like wanting to
Speaker 5: go out and do things. And in a sense, you know,
Speaker 5: in a sense, I haven't. It's not like I've changed
Speaker 5: completely as a person or anything like that given this
Speaker 5: new sort of thing in my life. But I think
Speaker 5: now it's sort of like I don't know, I just
Speaker 5: feel like more motivated to like go and see some
Speaker 5: stuff before I like, you know, can't right right.
Speaker 1: It's this is interesting because you know, I know you
Speaker 1: have a thing where you you know that you're going
Speaker 1: to not be able to see in the next what
Speaker 1: you said, ten years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhere like next yeah, somewhere in the next five
Speaker 5: ten or fifteen, like fifteen is years. Kind of depends
Speaker 5: see the thing with the.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's just like you know, uh, it's just
Speaker 5: like a weird window of time. It depends on how
Speaker 5: far it's like progressed. So it's like mine, my personal
Speaker 5: my personal like condition like status is that you know,
Speaker 5: it's probably going to be in like ten.
Speaker 3: Or fifteen years.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that this has motivated you and
Speaker 1: lit a fire under your ass to be more tenacious
Speaker 1: because we all do have an expiration date. We're all
Speaker 1: going to die, We're all going to lose our sight
Speaker 1: at some points that could be any day in the future.
Speaker 1: And this diagnosis putting a sort of more finite, tangible
Speaker 1: timer on your site has has now that it's a tangible,
Speaker 1: finite thing, it's it's inspired you to move about the
Speaker 1: universe and do things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I used to like kind of put things
Speaker 5: off a lot and like say no to a lot
Speaker 5: of things. Like I didn't I didn't really want to
Speaker 5: go out and do things like you know, partying or
Speaker 5: you know, not saying that this has like been my
Speaker 5: excuse to party it up or anything like that. But
Speaker 5: you know, I used to just kind of feel like
Speaker 5: I wasn't gaining any sort of value out of doing
Speaker 5: those kinds of experiences. And now that and now, like
Speaker 5: you said, now that I got this like fire on
Speaker 5: your my ass a little bit, and like I have
Speaker 5: to kind of take it all in while I still can.
Speaker 5: It's it's a weird saying. It's kind of like now
Speaker 5: I feel I can, you know, sort of almost see
Speaker 5: my goals a little bit better now and start like
Speaker 5: strategizing better on what I want to do.
Speaker 1: So so hit us, Okay, these these goals, these things
Speaker 1: that you want to do, this this uh uh you
Speaker 1: know tenacity that you now have? What what are these things?
Speaker 5: Well? I dropped out of school, like too, like a
Speaker 5: year ago, a year and a half ago or something
Speaker 5: like that. I dropped out of college, out of film school.
Speaker 5: I just didn't like my major and I didn't know
Speaker 5: what I was going to do. Like I just kind
Speaker 5: of decided that maybe school wasn't for me, and I
Speaker 5: was just gonna, i don't know, like work a regular
Speaker 5: job and just like climb climb the ladder that way.
Speaker 5: But now that like I have this diagnosis, I kind
Speaker 5: of want to go back to school. Like I kind
Speaker 5: of want to like get a job in something that
Speaker 5: I actually feel passionate about and like and you know,
Speaker 5: maybe a job that I can probably do even after
Speaker 5: I lose my vision. So I don't know. I think
Speaker 5: I'm going to go into school and try to get
Speaker 5: my uh get my license to become like a social
Speaker 5: worker or like a psychologist or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I want to travel. Yeah, So you've described a
Speaker 1: few things you you you are describing right now the
Speaker 1: way that this diagnosis has influenced you in terms of
Speaker 1: your long term vision for your life, which I find
Speaker 1: very interesting because you mentioned that, But then you were
Speaker 1: also mentioning partying, saying yes to things, just sort of
Speaker 1: in your day to day life life, trying to take
Speaker 1: the moretinacity of what's right in front of you. And
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that both your short term day
Speaker 1: to day life as well as how you're thinking about
Speaker 1: your you know whatever, your ten year plan, your five
Speaker 1: year plan, have both been affected.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: like I still I'm still able to see right now,
Speaker 5: and as far as I can tell, my vision will
Speaker 5: still be okay ish for the next five ten years.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, it's sort of like given me
Speaker 5: this feeling of like it's like I just want to
Speaker 5: see and do as many things as the same person
Speaker 5: can do before that time is up, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And I'm not saying that, you know, blind
Speaker 5: people don't like live a fulfilled life or anything like that.
Speaker 5: It's just sort of like when you grow up. I'm
Speaker 5: twenty years old now, I've I've had my vision my
Speaker 5: whole life, and so now it's like, you know now
Speaker 5: that it's not going to be a thing anymore. It's
Speaker 5: not you know, it's going to get taken away. Essentially,
Speaker 5: I'm now sort of like forced to sort of think
Speaker 5: about the things that I haven't seen or the things
Speaker 5: that I haven't done that would be more and much
Speaker 5: more difficult to do as a blind person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what are those things? In particularly? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm happy to hear that you've established for
Speaker 1: yourself a sustainable, long term type of plan with you know,
Speaker 1: going back to school, getting your job, But tell us
Speaker 1: about some crazy shit that you want to do. I
Speaker 1: know it's lingering in your brain of like the the
Speaker 1: yoloy fucking let's go to the Grand Canyon type. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I picked the Grand Canyon, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, What are these kinds of
Speaker 1: things that you want to go see and do and whatnot?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, as as of like the super crazy stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean you listed off the Grand Canyon. That is
Speaker 5: actually something that I written. I'll wrote on my list,
Speaker 5: like I have a list. It's like, you know, stuff,
Speaker 5: there's like normal stuff and like going to you know,
Speaker 5: visit Japan and you know, going to the Grand Canyon
Speaker 5: and traveling, you know, traveling in the United States. As
Speaker 5: for like the crazy stuff, I've always kind of wanted
Speaker 5: to hitch hike somewhere or like train hop mm hmmm mmm.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever do it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, Like it's kind of hard. I
Speaker 5: kind of.
Speaker 3: Hmm. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I want to say yes, but it's like I got
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to have a a finite timeline that you're
Speaker 1: working with here, because we think of life as so infinite,
Speaker 1: as we think of time as there will always be
Speaker 1: it we think of. You know, you know, when you
Speaker 1: have something that you want to do that you just
Speaker 1: don't have time for right now, you kind of place
Speaker 1: it in the ether of maybe I'll do it someday.
Speaker 1: But I mean this is very very cheesy but also
Speaker 1: extremely true. I'm finding that the more I think about
Speaker 1: shit like the cheesiest, clichest shit, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: cliche for a reason because it's damn true. Like the
Speaker 1: whole someday is not a day thing. I mean, it's true.
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to actually do you have
Speaker 1: to do it now or else you're not going to
Speaker 1: do it. And it's interesting that you are playing with
Speaker 1: this timeline here, because you know, like, Okay, if I
Speaker 1: don't do it this year, and then I don't do
Speaker 1: it next year, and I don't do it the year
Speaker 1: after that, I don't do the year after that, I
Speaker 1: don't do it the year after that, then fuck, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do it anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, exactly. So as of right now, I've you know,
Speaker 5: I only got diagnosed like through three months ago, like
Speaker 5: three months ago something like that, and so far I've
Speaker 5: already done like I've already done so many things that
Speaker 5: I never like thought that I would do. Like I've
Speaker 5: like I went to uh yeah, this is a yeah,
Speaker 5: this isn't. Like about three months or ago, I went
Speaker 5: to like a rave for the first time.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah, how is that? Is that something you've
Speaker 1: always wanted to do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've always like seen it in TV shows and
Speaker 5: stuff and thought like, oh shit, I want to do that.
Speaker 5: And then, like like I said, I never really like
Speaker 5: decided to do it for myself. And then I got
Speaker 5: the news that I might have this condition, and then
Speaker 5: I just sort of like pulled the trigger and.
Speaker 3: Was like, fuck, yeah I should do it.
Speaker 1: And how was the hard? It was low key hard,
Speaker 1: really tell me why it was cool?
Speaker 3: It was really well.
Speaker 5: So the reason why this even came up was one
Speaker 5: of the side effects of my conditions that I can't
Speaker 5: like see in the dark, like literally at all, so
Speaker 5: like you know, you turn off, you turn off the
Speaker 5: lights and it's like fucking pitch black. So the only
Speaker 5: reason I was having a touch time was because like, uh,
Speaker 5: after like you know, being in the crowd or whatever,
Speaker 5: you can go to the back and like sit in
Speaker 5: the seat, and my friends were all sitting in the
Speaker 5: seats and I went up to take a whiz and
Speaker 5: I came back and it's like pitch black, and I
Speaker 5: just fucking I can't find my friends or some shit
Speaker 5: like that, you know, or like the flashing lights will
Speaker 5: like blind me temporarily. But it was so cool.
Speaker 3: It was super cool.
Speaker 1: M that's awesome to hear that it was a good
Speaker 1: experience for you. And and and tell me, is there
Speaker 1: anything else that you've done in the past three months
Speaker 1: that you were just always kind of waiting to do,
Speaker 1: but but now you you took your opportunity to do it.
Speaker 5: This is going to sound like kind of like I
Speaker 5: don't know, this is gonna sound definitely like smaller scale,
Speaker 5: you know. But like I talk, I find myself like
Speaker 5: talking to people a lot more and like looking at
Speaker 5: people's like faces and their features and stuff. Do you
Speaker 5: know it's okay, I don't know, Like it's kind of
Speaker 5: don't I want you.
Speaker 1: To finish, but I have a thought for you, But
Speaker 1: I want to hear I want to hear you finish.
Speaker 1: I find that really interesting.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it's kind of it's kind of
Speaker 5: a weird thing. But like before the diagnosis, I never
Speaker 5: really like looked at people when I was talking to him.
Speaker 5: I never like bothered to notice like, oh, this guy's
Speaker 5: got a scar on his eyebrow, or you know, this
Speaker 5: person has a you know, like a you know, one
Speaker 5: color eye is one color and the other eyes another color.
Speaker 5: Stuff like that, you know. And now I'm kind of
Speaker 5: like finding myself like taking these sort of like mental
Speaker 5: notes and characteristics of people as I talk to them,
Speaker 5: or like, yeah, even approaching them to talk to them
Speaker 5: in the first place was something I didn't really even
Speaker 5: used to do, and now I kind of find myself
Speaker 5: like wanting to.
Speaker 3: Do it more.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, hmmm, mm hmm. That's fucking awesome. The reason why,
Speaker 1: the reason why that got me so excited is you
Speaker 1: you said, it's a small thing. That's the biggest thing,
Speaker 1: because you can't fucking go skydiving and see the Grand
Speaker 1: Canyon and have like you can't go on grand amazing
Speaker 1: adventures every hour of every day of your life. But
Speaker 1: what you're talking about just being observant, really really looking
Speaker 1: at people in the fucking face when you're talking to them,
Speaker 1: going out of your way to talk to people, just
Speaker 1: really observing and taking mental notes of the things in
Speaker 1: front of you. That's you said it was a small thing.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest thing. It's what you're doing every single day.
Speaker 1: It's what's right in front of you and you talking
Speaker 1: about actually instead of you know, dozing off or or
Speaker 1: or getting distracted, like really putting yourself into your conversations,
Speaker 1: into what you see on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's incredible to hear.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never really big thing.
Speaker 5: I never really did that before. Yeah, totally mm hmm.
Speaker 5: So tell me, yeah, it's just the whole No, go ahead,
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 1: No you please.
Speaker 3: Well I was just.
Speaker 5: Gonna say, like the whole I don't know, like you said,
Speaker 5: just like the whole day, like dazing, like dozing off,
Speaker 5: not paying attention, sort of like lulling through your days
Speaker 5: without really looking at anything, Like, honest to god, I
Speaker 5: used to just like stare at my phone all the time,
Speaker 5: like riding on the bus or you know, or like
Speaker 5: walking somewhere going to work, like and now now I
Speaker 5: feel so much like even with the diagnosis, now I'm
Speaker 5: almost thankful for like having that diagnosis a little bit,
Speaker 5: or like I'm almost thankful that you know, my vision
Speaker 5: is something that wasn't going to be permanent, because I
Speaker 5: don't know if I don't know, if I don't know
Speaker 5: if like I would have ever sort of kind of
Speaker 5: woken up from that sort of lifestyle if I hadn't
Speaker 5: had something like.
Speaker 3: This in my life.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. That's really fascinating. Man. Hmmm. So, so in
Speaker 1: moments typically when you would be looking at your phone,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're riding the bus or any sort
Speaker 1: of thing like that, are you finding yourself just looking
Speaker 1: at things?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh definitely. I live like even one of
Speaker 5: the most interesting like people watching places in the world,
Speaker 5: and so like I find myself just you know, I
Speaker 5: write public transportation a lot, and so I just find
Speaker 5: myself looking out the window and just watching people now
Speaker 5: so much more often, not in like any sort of
Speaker 5: weird way. I'm not staring at people or anything like that,
Speaker 5: but like I just noticed things that people do now
Speaker 5: and like, you know, just watch people kind of do
Speaker 5: their silly little tasks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, I've done that shit before too,
Speaker 1: where like I go, okay, I'm I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm addition to my phone and I'm on and
Speaker 1: all the time, and I sometimes I go like, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here and uh stare at the
Speaker 1: old lady in front of me at the grocery store,
Speaker 1: look like no, like I literally, I literally I do this.
Speaker 1: I do. I know exactly what you're talking about because
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do it more where you just
Speaker 1: like you stare, You're like, what is this? What is
Speaker 1: this woman's life?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: You're like, listen to the way that she talks, you,
Speaker 1: listen to the way that the cashier responds. Think about
Speaker 1: what's what's what? What the cashier's life is? Like? You
Speaker 1: look at the lines on their faces and you're kind
Speaker 1: of it's really beautiful. It's weird. It's like you kind
Speaker 1: of we're getting we're getting into it here. But you
Speaker 1: don't have to go to the fucking Grand Canyon to
Speaker 1: see some beautiful shit. It's right in front of you.
Speaker 1: You just got to notice it and pay attention and
Speaker 1: and really try to make an effort to see it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's super cool to me that even
Speaker 1: though you have this this diagnosis that's a really tough
Speaker 1: thing to digest, that it's getting you more into that mindset.
Speaker 5: No, totally. I feel so much like I feel so
Speaker 5: much less like internalized with my thoughts and emotions. No,
Speaker 5: I almost feel very like outwards and like, yeah, a
Speaker 5: lot of people now.
Speaker 1: Yeah dude, ah, man, that's so cool to hear. That's
Speaker 1: so cool to hear. Yeah, that's so cool to hear.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the big thing. So you presented this
Speaker 1: and like I I got so excited when you presented
Speaker 1: it as a small thing because I wanted to be like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: that's the big that's the fucking biggest thing. It really is.
Speaker 1: Because it's a day. It's day to Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: day to day. It's it's you know when you go
Speaker 1: when you're at your office or wherever you work at.
Speaker 1: You know, if you fucking work at an advertising agency
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, and you go from your desk to
Speaker 1: the to the fridge in the kitchen to get a
Speaker 1: bottle of water, and you say hi to a person
Speaker 1: that you know you work with, you know, really be
Speaker 1: there when you're saying hi to them, Really look at
Speaker 1: their fucking face, Really be in that conversation, just in
Speaker 1: the in the in the day to day. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's finding this ship in the day of to day.
Speaker 1: That's that's so not key. I'm I'm I'm stoked to
Speaker 1: hear all that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: That that's that's that's really something.
Speaker 5: Hey, I appreciate it, GEK.
Speaker 1: Dude, is there anything else that you wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about or or say before we go? It's been a
Speaker 1: real pleasure talking about this stuff.
Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, No, I.
Speaker 5: I just appreciated Gek. I've been a longtime fan of
Speaker 5: the show. I'm really surprised that I called it like that.
Speaker 5: I got in when I called in. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 5: think you're doing some amazing work here. I feel like
Speaker 5: you're probably so wise after doing so.
Speaker 4: Many of these.
Speaker 1: Now, No, I'm just a fucking guy in a Gecko
Speaker 1: costume on the Call of Duty website. But I appreciate
Speaker 1: you saying that, and you're fucking wise.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn a lot just being in the moment.
Speaker 1: You've inspired me, man, because I think I have. I've
Speaker 1: had some kicks where I've been really into the ship
Speaker 1: that you're describing of, like just looking up people's faces
Speaker 1: and trying to be more observant. And you know how
Speaker 1: it is when you do any self improvement thing. You
Speaker 1: get into it for a while and then you kind
Speaker 1: of slip back into your ways. But you've you've inspired me. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to take that back up.
Speaker 5: Hey man, I really appreciate that. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you, gummy Worrem.
Speaker 5: I'll see you later.
Speaker 2: Done.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was awesome. That was really great. Good
Speaker 1: for him, really really good for him. I love I
Speaker 1: love that that thing. It really it really. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say anything I didn't already say in that call,
Speaker 1: but it really feels like that's all there is. Right.
Speaker 1: I've always I've always felt like, if you can't, I'm
Speaker 1: just talking to myself. I'm not trying to lecture people.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself. And I've always thought for myself, like, man,
Speaker 1: if I can't find magnificent, awesome, spiritual beauty while I'm
Speaker 1: stone cold, sober, waiting in line at Ralph's, you know,
Speaker 1: staring at a looking at the person in front of me,
Speaker 1: or on the metro on the way to work in
Speaker 1: the morning, just looking out the window at a tree
Speaker 1: that I walk by every day. Right, if you can't
Speaker 1: find beauty wherever it is, you currently are in this
Speaker 1: very fucking moment, then you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to find it going to some tropical, exotic location. Uh so,
Speaker 1: So I think that's really important, and I thank the
Speaker 1: caller for for bringing that up. It's a really great conversation. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hi there, Hi, what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 4: You know, just got done with the sash?
Speaker 1: Say that again.
Speaker 4: I just got done with smoking wheat.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you tried to you kind of tried to
Speaker 1: do a little cool guy thing there. Just got done with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just got done with the sash. Sorry. I I
Speaker 4: think it's the DPP adrenaline, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's somebody screaming in the bat what is so?
Speaker 1: Why is somebody screaming?
Speaker 4: That's actually my cat. His name is Arth Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: he like yells like a man, like a human.
Speaker 1: Screaming about anything in particular. Are you.
Speaker 4: Well, I actually just got back inside, and he's just
Speaker 4: really excited.
Speaker 1: He's like you because you're high. The cat has fear
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 4: No, she's uh, just really wanting attention and treats right now.
Speaker 4: He's a fat, fat cat.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a loud cat. Well, so listen, Taylor, you
Speaker 1: said your name was? Or did I just bring that up,
Speaker 1: Taylor because I have a call screaming thing. Whatever, Taylor,
Speaker 1: what's going on with you? How's life? Tell me everything?
Speaker 1: Tell me nothing?
Speaker 4: So basically, I I've been I've been struggling a little bit.
Speaker 4: I had a customer at my at my job, I
Speaker 4: work at a smoke shop, so I have a lot
Speaker 4: of crackheads come in.
Speaker 1: And why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I am one of those cool guys you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you for including me in the lingo
Speaker 1: of your culture. Anyway, you had a meth person, you
Speaker 1: had somebody who was on meth. We don't need to
Speaker 1: define this person. We don't need to call them a
Speaker 1: meth head, as if you know, their whole life is
Speaker 1: a big you know, but they were on math at
Speaker 1: the time that they were in your store. Continue exactly.
Speaker 4: He asked me if I was an NPC. If you
Speaker 4: know what an NPC is, I do.
Speaker 1: Know what an NPC is. It stands for non player character.
Speaker 4: Yep, a non playable character. Yes, And it kind of
Speaker 4: messed me up, Like this happened. This happened like two
Speaker 4: months ago, and uh, it's been on my mind ever since.
Speaker 4: And like I think about it at least twice a day.
Speaker 1: M why did it mess you up? And when you're
Speaker 1: thinking about it, what kinds of thoughts are you having?
Speaker 4: I just like almost realized I am that person behind
Speaker 4: the counter for a lot of people, you know, and like,
Speaker 4: I am that person who is doing things for people
Speaker 4: all the time and like kind of move people along.
Speaker 4: But I'm kind of like staying in the same place
Speaker 4: a majority of the time, and it's just kind of
Speaker 4: like a cycle. And it's a lot of the same
Speaker 4: people too, with like the occasional new person who who
Speaker 4: is like messing up the timeline And I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 4: what is this? So I like know what I'm supposed
Speaker 4: to say with most of the people that I talk to.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's impact this. You work at a small store
Speaker 1: where a select amount of local customers, recurring local customers
Speaker 1: are the clientele, and so you find yourself in a
Speaker 1: bit of a loop where you are performing the same tasks,
Speaker 1: talking to the same people over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and that is distressing you. Is all that accurate?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, So now that you've identified that you're in this loop,
Speaker 1: what is your relationship with the loop? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about being in this loop?
Speaker 4: I have mixed feelings about it. It's like, on one hand,
Speaker 4: and I'm really happy like helping people. I love being
Speaker 4: the person who makes someone else happy and like makes
Speaker 4: their day. Like I used to be a barista. I
Speaker 4: used to get people their morning coffee. That's that's them
Speaker 4: starting their day and being a better person afterwards. You know.
Speaker 4: That's that for a lot of people. And I love
Speaker 4: doing that, and if I can like change that for someone,
Speaker 4: I would love to.
Speaker 2: But it's like.
Speaker 4: I'm just doing that consistently with the same stuff over
Speaker 4: and over again, and it kind of like it's exhausting,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you get a deep sense of
Speaker 1: satisfaction when you help somebody find the perfect pickle? Rickbull?
Speaker 4: Honestly, yeah, A lot of people like it's so much
Speaker 4: Rick and.
Speaker 5: Morty mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Well, in all seriousness, tell me, do you do you
Speaker 1: desire for more? You seem to be having some kind
Speaker 1: of existential crisis over the uh what is the word
Speaker 1: repetition of your life? What is there anything more in
Speaker 1: this universe with this short amount of time that you've
Speaker 1: been given on Earth that you wish to pursue what
Speaker 1: what what do? Because because you're having the sexistentral crisis,
Speaker 1: it would seem because you feel as though there's more
Speaker 1: to your routine that rhyme unintentionally, what more do you desire?
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I'm going to school for hair,
Speaker 4: so like that's something that I kind of want to do,
Speaker 4: like maybe move up in that way. But also that's
Speaker 4: like really easy to say, and I feel like most
Speaker 4: people who do hair feel that way. That's all I
Speaker 4: ever hear anyone say. But also like I don't know,
Speaker 4: I want to make a difference somehow for a large
Speaker 4: group of people, more so than I do for just
Speaker 4: you know, the singular person out there.
Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts on that. First of all,
Speaker 1: with the hair thing, aren't you going to just get
Speaker 1: into another loop where you now work at a hair
Speaker 1: salon and you have a recurring group of clientele where
Speaker 1: instead of getting them Rick and Morty bongs, you're giving
Speaker 1: them Rick and Morty haircuts.
Speaker 4: I suppose, But at least in that way, I can
Speaker 4: form the clientele to where like if I want the
Speaker 4: people who are constantly changing, I can have the people
Speaker 4: who are constantly changing. That's more of like an art
Speaker 4: form like a hobby to me.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this too also if I can't,
Speaker 1: you have a desire to help people on a grand scale,
Speaker 1: which I think is that's a beautiful desire. I think
Speaker 1: that's a great desire. I think that's a wonderful, compelling
Speaker 1: force and it'll take you to a lot of places
Speaker 1: if you follow that, and it'll take you to a
Speaker 1: lot of places that are fulfilling to you. But I
Speaker 1: think you should have a different sort of relationship with
Speaker 1: the scale aspect of it, right, Because you do feel
Speaker 1: as though you get a sense of satisfaction when you
Speaker 1: give somebody their morning coffee, when you help them find
Speaker 1: a piece that they really like at your smoke shop,
Speaker 1: when you give them a haircut that they are very
Speaker 1: happy with. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: But I feel like some of them are like different
Speaker 4: forms of satisfaction. Like sometimes I'm happy to give a
Speaker 4: person their right bull because I just like want them
Speaker 4: out of the store faster. Like sometimes it is with
Speaker 4: like malicious intent, but not in a way where it's
Speaker 4: really harming anyone, I guess, you know. But like with coffee,
Speaker 4: that's a whole other story, And like with hair that's
Speaker 4: a whole other story that's like changing an entire person's life.
Speaker 1: Well, because here's the thing about about a scale is
Speaker 1: and I've kind of learned this, I've been trying to
Speaker 1: This is what I'm telling you right now so that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn on my own, is if you
Speaker 1: can't feel really really and it sounds like you do.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what I'm what I'm telling you here,
Speaker 1: but I think feeling really, really satisfied with helping just
Speaker 1: one person is important because if you can't feel the
Speaker 1: maximum amount of satisfaction and really really tap into the
Speaker 1: maxim amount of satisfaction that you could possibly tap into
Speaker 1: by helping one person with one fucking insignificant thing, then
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how many people you end up helping
Speaker 1: on this so called grand scale, because it's it never
Speaker 1: is enough, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Actually, Like for me, I I you know, I get
Speaker 1: fucking you know, I get I get emails and stuff
Speaker 1: every day of people being like the podcast has helped them,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's an interesting thing because if I
Speaker 1: if I sit there at my email and my DM
Speaker 1: every day and I'm like what we need. Let's get
Speaker 1: more and more and more people that you know are
Speaker 1: giving me a validation that I've helped them. Then it'd
Speaker 1: never be this is never enough. Right, But if I
Speaker 1: really take the time, I read one fucking email and
Speaker 1: I'm like, if this is the only email I've and
Speaker 1: I really try to think to myself, if this is
Speaker 1: the only email I've ever gotten or ever get out
Speaker 1: of doing this, that needs to be okay, right, I
Speaker 1: need to be like this, I like, really like and
Speaker 1: because that feeling, that feeling won't just appear to you,
Speaker 1: you have to tap yourself into it. Of I am
Speaker 1: satisfied having help this one person by giving them their
Speaker 1: morning coffee, like you've got to really tap into the
Speaker 1: one singular instance of the thing or else you're not
Speaker 1: going to be satisfied by a number. You know, if
Speaker 1: one person giving them a nice haircut that they really
Speaker 1: like doesn't satisfy you, then a thousand is not gonna
Speaker 1: satisfy you. It just keeps inflating. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: That makes a lot of sense?
Speaker 1: Okay, good?
Speaker 4: Like changing the one is it just can be Yeah,
Speaker 4: more yourself satisfying yourself more than satisfying I don't know
Speaker 4: your need to help that. I don't know that makes sense.
Speaker 4: I just can't say it again.
Speaker 1: Well okay, so well so next time, so you work,
Speaker 1: So you work at the smoke shop.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: So next time a guy comes in and he's like,
Speaker 1: I want Crusty. I want Crusty the Clown and he
Speaker 1: has his ass hanging out and I breathe the smoke
Speaker 1: through Crusty the Clown's mouth and pack the bowl into
Speaker 1: his ass. And next time that guy comes in and
Speaker 1: you're like, I have that in the back, let me
Speaker 1: get it for you, and you present it to him
Speaker 1: and he smiles at you and whatnot, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've helped this guy get the thing that he came
Speaker 1: in to get. It's a really small, insignificant thing, but
Speaker 1: you sit in the moment that you're helping him with it,
Speaker 1: and you take every last drop of satisfaction you can
Speaker 1: possibly gleam from that moment, because that's satisfaction. It won't
Speaker 1: it won't just come to you out of doing it.
Speaker 1: You have to do it, but then also mentally be
Speaker 1: there and mentally go I'm gonna fucking hitting this moment
Speaker 1: with this person as I'm helping them and get everything
Speaker 1: I possibly can out of it and lean into it.
Speaker 1: That's that's where you'll get your satisfaction.
Speaker 4: Have you been to the shop, because you're just describing
Speaker 4: some bulls that we definitely have there.
Speaker 1: I've spent a decent amount of time in various headshops.
Speaker 1: Not anymore, but when I was in high school I did.
Speaker 1: I did a lot, and I saw that accrusted the
Speaker 1: clown Actually, I mean, fuck it, I have I have
Speaker 1: a crust to the clown bowl that is exactly like that.
Speaker 1: That's not true. I completely made a lot of this up.
Speaker 1: But I hope this conversation was helpful to you, Taylor.
Speaker 4: It was. It definitely like changed my outlook on on
Speaker 4: that question, Like, I don't know how I'm going to
Speaker 4: look at how I'm helping people in the future.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm glad it was helpful to you, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my own advice. I'm gonna think of
Speaker 1: this call as the only one I ever take for
Speaker 1: the course of my everything. Really, soak it up. Now
Speaker 1: I'm sounding potentially, but I don't care anymore.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's your life. Man. You're not an NPC.
Speaker 1: Neither are you God damn it, Taylor, is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Don't do drugs unless you're twenty one?
Speaker 1: Perfect? Thanks for calling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a good night.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hey, how are you?
Speaker 3: Hey? How you doing?
Speaker 1: Is this Sal?
Speaker 3: Yes? Is this Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, it is you. You as anyone ever told
Speaker 1: you that you? You totally sound like your name is.
Speaker 3: Sal Yeah, I mean it's close.
Speaker 1: Is are you Italian? I don't know if that's cool
Speaker 1: to ask.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's okay, Yeah I am, but my name
Speaker 3: is definitely not South.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, Well you picked a great fake name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks buddy for you. Man.
Speaker 1: So, how's everything going with you? It says here that
Speaker 1: you have a fart fetish that is a massive secret
Speaker 1: in your life and you've never indulged in very different.
Speaker 3: It's difficult to talk about, but I feel like I
Speaker 3: need to learn a little bit more about how to
Speaker 3: approach this, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I just feel like it's it's a difficult thing
Speaker 3: to talk about. M I mean, it's not something I'm
Speaker 3: definitely proud of, Like, I don't know, I feel weird
Speaker 3: about it, but it's.
Speaker 1: So sal listen, I have to ask you this question. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's sort of just a formality here, but you're you're
Speaker 1: being one hundred percent serious, correct you. I don't think
Speaker 1: you would fuck with me.
Speaker 3: But you check my search history, check the search history
Speaker 3: on my computer.
Speaker 1: You you watch a lot of fartard.
Speaker 3: I want to say a lot. But when I do
Speaker 3: watch porn, I do happen to go towards that category.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. Okay, how long have you been into farts?
Speaker 3: See here's the thing. It's not so much farts, it's
Speaker 3: like this is where it gets weird.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm on board.
Speaker 3: It's like the forbidden fruit, Like girls don't fart, you know,
Speaker 3: and like, dude, bring it on. Like I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe it's not even the fart. Maybe it's just like
Speaker 3: the the what would you call that, the like the
Speaker 3: you know, like the boundary line, you know, like that's
Speaker 3: where like I don't know, it's very it's very confusing
Speaker 3: to me myself.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the weather, you're explaining it that that
Speaker 1: you Uh, it's kind of a forbidden fruit thing, you know,
Speaker 1: Like you know, girls are not typically very open about
Speaker 1: flatolence about pooping. About these sorts of things, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a forbidden it's a forbidden thing. It's a very
Speaker 1: taboo thing. And for many people, uh you know, taboos
Speaker 1: can be very uh you know, exciting to explore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here's where it also I'm sorry, No, go ahead,
Speaker 3: tell me, tell me more. No, I was just gonna say,
Speaker 3: like it's weird because like I'm not I would never
Speaker 3: kink shame anybody on the planet Earth for anything that
Speaker 3: they're they indulge in or they want indulge in. But
Speaker 3: I still hold myself to this is so weird. I
Speaker 3: hold myself to a high sterandard because I don't have
Speaker 3: a foot fetish let alone, nothing else but weird like that,
Speaker 3: but like not weird, nothing like that. But like here
Speaker 3: I am wanting to sniff a girl's ass, Like I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm demented. I gotta be.
Speaker 1: Why do you consider yourself demented?
Speaker 3: Because it's so gross, Like if you told like in
Speaker 3: my mind, I picture myself like if I told the
Speaker 3: previous girl like hey, fart in my face, Like they're
Speaker 3: just gonna look at me like what Like I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say like the curse words, but like there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a ton of them. Like, you know, I feel embarrassed.
Speaker 3: I feel very ashamed of this, you know, and it's
Speaker 3: very tough for me to digest like that this is
Speaker 3: my kink, Like it's very it's very it's kind of frustrating,
Speaker 3: Like I'm mad at myself for liking this. But I've
Speaker 3: never experienced it, to be fair, I've never had that
Speaker 3: happen to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's boil down the shame here, Sal. You
Speaker 1: say it's gross, you say it's shameful. But but but why,
Speaker 1: Like let's let's ask, let's ask why why is it
Speaker 1: shameful for you to like farts just because a lot
Speaker 1: of other people think that it's gross.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, you nailed it. I think we circle back
Speaker 3: to that taboo part of it. It's so taboo, and
Speaker 3: it's so like not talked about. Like we just got
Speaker 3: into feat like in you know that the century, Like
Speaker 3: we just got through feet. We accepted that, you know,
Speaker 3: like it's taking a long time to get I'll probably
Speaker 3: be dead by the time like people accept that this
Speaker 3: is a fetus, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Sal, I actually think I think such a slow pace, Sal,
Speaker 1: this is a you know, Sal, in order for you
Speaker 1: to be self actualized. In order for you to really
Speaker 1: achieve happiness on your own terms, you need to transcend society.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you need to transcend society. I
Speaker 1: think that society has these rules. Some of them are
Speaker 1: for a good reason. You know, don't kill people, don't
Speaker 1: steal things, whatever.
Speaker 3: It is no harm. Nobody gets hurt, of course.
Speaker 1: But in this situation, you know, this is not a
Speaker 1: harmful thing that society is trying to event. This is
Speaker 1: just you. You need to transcend society's views on things
Speaker 1: and live your life for yourself sal and not get
Speaker 1: so hung up on what other people are doing. You're
Speaker 1: never gonna be happy if you're living by other people's rules.
Speaker 1: And I understand why, I understand why it's embarrassing, right,
Speaker 1: But there's so much power to be had in owning
Speaker 1: what is traditionally embarrassing, right, Because if society tries to
Speaker 1: shame you and tries to make you feel uncomfortable for
Speaker 1: liking what you like, you know you can take the
Speaker 1: power back and not and not let it, you know,
Speaker 1: now let it control you. Tell me this, Tell me this.
Speaker 1: Have you ever considered going out there trying to find
Speaker 1: or trying to or orchestrates a sexual experience that involves.
Speaker 3: Farts in that in that ballpark.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, in that ball park.
Speaker 3: So gek, let's let's get real. Yeah. I have looked
Speaker 3: into it. It's expensive because it's not something I would
Speaker 3: do to like a random grow at a bar. You understand,
Speaker 3: Like I have looked online in people in this field
Speaker 3: and it's just out of my ballpark and that that's
Speaker 3: where it is. But at the same time, I wanted
Speaker 3: to be genuine. I don't want it to be someone
Speaker 3: else that's just you know, excuse my language, but just
Speaker 3: farten in faces all day. I kind of want to
Speaker 3: be a little genuine.
Speaker 1: Okay, we sal I have another recommendation for you. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been on I mean, there's all these websites
Speaker 1: out there. Uh, I don't know any off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, but there are many, many websites for
Speaker 1: people whose sexual desires deviate from the norm who, you know,
Speaker 1: congregate together to find one another. It's never been easier
Speaker 1: actually for people with debate sexual desires to oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean read it is one.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's all these dating sites where people can
Speaker 1: you know, explore their fetishes. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like there is still a
Speaker 1: lot of inhibition on your part that is keeping you
Speaker 1: from fully diving into this thing about yourself. And I
Speaker 1: think that you should accept it because I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, this is an interesting thing and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about it. I would love to talk
Speaker 1: to a real psychologist about it. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if you can make this go away. Have you talked
Speaker 1: to someone about this going anywhere? I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can just make this go away.
Speaker 3: I'm too embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I mean, why embarrassed?
Speaker 3: Uh? First, gat, I just want to thank your team
Speaker 3: that you had answered the phones, because I tried calling
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago about this and we had
Speaker 3: got this connected. But I had talked to one of
Speaker 3: the gentlemen that picked up the phone, and we talked
Speaker 3: about like this, and we had a good lack that
Speaker 3: that was the first time I ever opened up about it.
Speaker 3: You have no idea like this is uncomfortable for me,
Speaker 3: you know, and you have a great team. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: But he also told me something cool. He was like,
Speaker 3: you're not the first person calling about this. So there's
Speaker 3: other people out there with this people.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's other people. Every weird thing you could
Speaker 1: possibly think is some unique thing to you, it's everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, we all live, We all share this weird
Speaker 1: thing in our brains that causes us to like farts
Speaker 1: and you know, weird stuff fucking be depressed.
Speaker 3: And all that shit, arm pit, haairs and whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: whatever you got, Like, that's why you know, man, you
Speaker 3: have such an awesome thing going. Man, you have no
Speaker 3: idea how much like I appreciate you having this like
Speaker 3: open form. I appreciate that sound idea what my facebooks like,
Speaker 3: but like this feels so good to get off my chest.
Speaker 1: Like no, I don't know what it looks like, but
Speaker 1: I know that it loves itself some stinky farts. He
Speaker 1: is there, shout listen. I'll say this. I hope that
Speaker 1: you talking about this on this podcast, has you know,
Speaker 1: gotten you at least like one ring up when wrung
Speaker 1: up on the ladder to eventually either you know, embracing
Speaker 1: it or talking to someone about how it can go away.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really like it's interesting when we're
Speaker 1: talking about like it going away, I do I don't know,
Speaker 1: to what degree humans can like change their psychology of
Speaker 1: like what they are sexually attracted to. And then I
Speaker 1: don't know what the healthy thing is if it's to
Speaker 1: pursue it or I don't. I don't know. I wish
Speaker 1: I had the answers of like off this ship from
Speaker 1: a psychologist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the scary thing is what if and then you
Speaker 3: just go, what if I'm thrown out there? What if
Speaker 3: some chick farts to my face? I fall in love
Speaker 3: with this? Now I'm into the next realm. I don't
Speaker 3: know where that goes deeper? What are they doing poop
Speaker 3: it on my chest?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Where does this go? If I like that? That's the
Speaker 3: scary part.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Well, I mean look man, look man, look,
Speaker 1: look man. If you let's let's say let's say a
Speaker 1: girl as fartag on your face, and then let's say
Speaker 1: you know that slowly becomes not enough for you. Then
Speaker 1: she's shitting in your chest, Then she's shitting in your mouth,
Speaker 1: and then she's like shitting in your ass and while
Speaker 1: you are taking a ship and your ships are like
Speaker 1: sumo wrestling each other inside of your assholes. Let's say
Speaker 1: you do get to that point what it is really
Speaker 1: so bad about that? What is really so bad about that?
Speaker 3: So nothing except the ibar it all comes You're right,
Speaker 3: get It comes down to my own insecurities, like I
Speaker 3: have to find that power, but I just don't have it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like this, I'm a I like
Speaker 3: to think of myself as a pretty good guy, you know,
Speaker 3: but like you know, there were things in my past
Speaker 3: where I did drugs and this and that, like gonna,
Speaker 3: it's taking time to build my ego wop, and it's
Speaker 3: very hard to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm clean now and I got this weird fetish.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I would want more like the
Speaker 3: drugs are the fetish, Like I don't know. I like
Speaker 3: being clean, so I'll take the fetish.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, sal If I'm tell me no, listen, here's
Speaker 1: what I think. I said this before, but I'll just
Speaker 1: say it again just to hammer it in. Sal. I
Speaker 1: think for you to really be happy, you can't be
Speaker 1: living by other people's expectations, by society's expectations. And I
Speaker 1: hope you take that to heart, and I hope that
Speaker 1: you move forward in a direction that you know is
Speaker 1: overcoming those expectations. And leads to you more living your
Speaker 1: own life.
Speaker 3: Yeak, you're an amazing Gek. You have no idea. Man,
Speaker 3: You're saving lives without even knowing it.
Speaker 1: I wish you many farts to the face. I wish
Speaker 1: you many guilt free farts to the face and shifts
Speaker 1: to the mouth and pisses to the nose if you
Speaker 1: get there, and I appreciate it, Sal, is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys just called Gek. Be open with yourself, get
Speaker 3: off your chest. The guys here for real and the
Speaker 3: team's awesome too.
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Sal.
Speaker 3: Get farted on.
Speaker 1: You know, there's also Sal for every guy out there
Speaker 1: who loves getting farted on. There's a woman out there
Speaker 1: who absolutely loves farting on guys faces. And there's an
Speaker 1: alternate universe where I'm getting a call from a lady
Speaker 1: who's like, you know, hey, Gek, I have this thing
Speaker 1: where I love to fart on guy's faces, but I
Speaker 1: can't find any guys you know who I'm willing to
Speaker 1: bring it up to, Like what if, Sal, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call this what's a what's an equally Italian name? Maria Salam.
Speaker 1: What if Maria calls me and she's like, ghak, I
Speaker 1: can't find a guy who face I can fart on.
Speaker 1: Let's say Maria and Sal they meet on Hinge, some
Speaker 1: normy dating app, and you know both Maria wants to
Speaker 1: fart on Sal's face. Sal wants Maria to fart on
Speaker 1: his face, but both of them are too embarrassed to
Speaker 1: let each other know, and so they hide it and
Speaker 1: they hide it and they never are are are true
Speaker 1: to each other and the amazing fart sex that could
Speaker 1: be never bees? Wouldn't that be tragic?
Speaker 4: The GT goes all the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 4: every night, The repeat goes down his eye.
Speaker 3: He's teaching you cloud every life, but he's not really
Speaker 3: an expert.