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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hot Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harrison,

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Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans and so

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Speaker 2: happy to be with you as we count it down

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Speaker 2: each and every day to training camp. We are twelve

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Speaker 2: days away, twelve days away, and we want this sun

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Speaker 2: to go away. Relatively speaking, we need some cloud cover,

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Speaker 2: mark right.

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Speaker 1: Cloud cover. I think a lot of people are with me.

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Speaker 1: I don't need the sun. I don't need the sun. No,

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Speaker 1: I just need the warmth without the sun, and then

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Speaker 1: I'm good in the summertime most of the time. Who

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Speaker 1: needs the sun? You just burn it's too hot. Get

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Speaker 1: the cloud cover, you get a nice warm day, don't burn,

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Speaker 1: not that hot. I like it. I mean. We don't

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Speaker 1: even play outside the first half of the year essentially, so.

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Speaker 2: Is until week five where we go out side. Then

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Speaker 2: we go to London and of course we play Wembley

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Speaker 2: outside and then we come back for a game against

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Speaker 2: the Giants that's inside. So we only go outside on

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Speaker 2: us soil once in the first half.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and that is in London, and it

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Speaker 1: will not be hot that day. Well once at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: We were to Tennessee. Then we go, oh, Tennessee's week

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Speaker 1: five five yep, okay, Then London that's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: that warm. Then it'll start to cool up a little

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Speaker 1: bit bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll, I mean, I think so. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the first four games inside, so obviously three out of

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Speaker 2: the four home, and then we play Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys do it. I know

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Speaker 1: they have the catapult systems and all these other analytics

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Speaker 1: on what the heat does to their bodies, but geez,

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Speaker 1: I know, Demiico likes to practice real hard. Ouch. I

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Speaker 1: feel like you beat the guys to smitherreens in training camp. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: man take it easy. Coach. Actually, he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: You do it works for you, Yeah, because you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's been working very well so far. We're off to

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Speaker 1: the best start for any head coaching team history. We're

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Speaker 1: undergoing the best three years in team history, back to

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Speaker 1: back to back, ever period. There's no other way to

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Speaker 1: define it. It's the best era of Texans football ever.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not where we all want it to

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Speaker 1: be ultimately in the super Bowl, but it's still the

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Speaker 1: best ever.

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Speaker 2: So you got what you got. Let's keep going from here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, keep going from here. Absolutely, there's no question

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Speaker 2: about that now.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have been celebrating the life of Missus

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Speaker 2: McNair who passed away on Tuesday. We had John McClain on.

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Speaker 2: You've also been dealing with your injury situation, so we

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Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to dive into where the executives

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Speaker 2: had aziz al Shire.

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Speaker 1: Did he make the top ten? Well? He I thought

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Speaker 1: he came in.

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Speaker 2: I was very happy with this. When I looked at

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Speaker 2: the five players in front of hisiz al Shire, who

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Speaker 2: came in number six, I was like, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I kind of see that in mind. I don't really

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Speaker 2: have too much of a quant look. Fred Warner is

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Speaker 2: still the best linebacker in the league, and he was

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Speaker 2: once coached and and turned into a strong linebacker. One

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Speaker 2: of the best in the league by Demiko Ryans. Number

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Speaker 2: two is ro Quan Smith. I mean ro Quand is

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Speaker 2: still Roquand he's still that guy. Just I hate facing

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Speaker 2: Roquan and we didn't last year, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: this year. I hate facing him. Carsonswestinger is the rookie,

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Speaker 2: you end up having a great year. His Rookie the Year,

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Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year. He's at three. Zach Bond

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Speaker 2: is at four. I was watching America's game over the

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Speaker 2: weekend and from they were playing a bunch of them,

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Speaker 2: but then they played Phillies America America's game and they

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Speaker 2: focused on Zach Bond. Zach Bond went to Philly for

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Speaker 2: like one year, one million dollars really to be a

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Speaker 2: special teamer, and he's become one of the best inside

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Speaker 1: It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Number five, Jack Campbell, number six is a ziz Al Shier.

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Speaker 2: Here are some of the Here a couple of quotes.

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Speaker 2: This is from an NFL personnel evaluator.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's all it says.

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Speaker 2: And I quote he he's the Dennis Rodman of linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: He gets in everyone's head. He can run all day

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Speaker 1: I like that. That is I think he does getting

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Speaker 1: people's heads. Oh I do.

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Speaker 2: I think he does that.

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Speaker 1: Veron Rodgers said, so, who knows when he's on the field.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't he talking about this when az He's got suspended

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Speaker 1: and Rogers was doing the McAfee show still, and I

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Speaker 1: want to say Rogers said something about I know when

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Speaker 1: he's on the field and I'm always watching where he is.

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Speaker 1: Is he coming to get me? What's he doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's high praise.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, this is from an NFL coordinator. He specialized

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Speaker 2: by scheme a bit, but he's explosive and good in coverage.

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Speaker 2: Now that last part, good in coverage, he's improved. I

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Speaker 2: think Azis would take that to the bank, like, oh okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll take that because remember coming out of that Chiefs game,

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Speaker 2: he said he was in a dark place because he

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Speaker 2: felt like he was not good in coverage fell.

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Speaker 1: He let the team down.

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Speaker 2: He's talked about that with us here in studio when

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Speaker 2: he lay game. This is also I think Jerrem Fowler

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Speaker 2: Wright says Shires nine passes defense, so passes defense. For

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Speaker 2: those wondering, it's interceptions and pass breakups. His nine were

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Speaker 2: the most for a Texas player with one hundred tackles

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Speaker 2: since Brian Cushing had ten in his rookie season in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. He had two interceptions to tackle

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Speaker 2: for a loss. Texas don't blitz often, do their pass

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Speaker 2: rush allowing al Shire to patrol the middle of the

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Speaker 2: field for one of the league's best defenses.

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Speaker 1: And clean up in the run game. So he comes

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Speaker 1: in six. That was good.

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Speaker 2: His highest ranking was three, His lowest ranking was unranked.

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Speaker 2: Last year was unranked. So is he a shark coming

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Speaker 2: in at number six?

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Speaker 1: The Dennis Rodman comment has nothing to do with off

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Speaker 1: field stuff, right, right, right, because disease is not Dennis

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Speaker 1: Rodman in that way. No, last I checked, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to divert the team playing to Vegas, right and

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Speaker 1: things like that. He did.

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Speaker 2: He need a forty eight hour vacation that turned it

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Speaker 2: into ninety six in the middle of can you see

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Speaker 2: can you imagine Zi's al Shire doing a WWE wrestling

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Speaker 1: I know too, that's what Robin did. Two coaches with

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien or maybe any NFL coach just pick your name,

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Speaker 1: not going to tolerate that. But that's nice praise for

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Speaker 1: as he's al Shire, as he signs the big extension

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Speaker 1: in the off season, and here he is getting those

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Speaker 1: accolades National wreck I like it okay. He gets everyone's

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Speaker 1: heads interesting. It's very interesting because he does it to

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Speaker 1: his own teammates too. He likes to poke a needle

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Speaker 1: and he always talks about sitting next to danil Uh

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, like he and Daniel are kind

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Speaker 1: of locker mats, and he's always kind of messing with

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Speaker 1: the neil and you know he.

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Speaker 2: Has that in him. But I also say I've seen

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Speaker 2: him also at the end of a practice spend thirty

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Speaker 2: five forty minutes with Wade wood As at the goalpost

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Speaker 2: working on initial steps and striking, and like, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: And we talked to Wade wood As about that and

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Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, you know, we got a Tampa connection.

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Speaker 2: But he asked Disease about that and he goes, young

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Speaker 2: man listens, He listens, and that says a VET, that's

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Speaker 2: all you really want your rookies, like are you listening?

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Speaker 2: Are you listening to what the vets are saying? You

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Speaker 2: listen to what the coaches are saying. And because he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he listens, he might be great.

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Speaker 1: It's so fresh and Disease's mind how people were to

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Speaker 1: him when he was starting. That's including the head coach here,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's grateful for that and he wants

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Speaker 1: to pass that along. He's talked about being the OG.

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, no, he's not OG. He's unk? Is he unk?

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Speaker 1: He's unk? He didn't want to be og. He's not

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Speaker 1: thirty yet, so he didn't want to be og. A.

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Speaker 1: My thirteen year old started to call me unk on vacation.

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Speaker 1: Wait what I thought he called you? Yeah? I said,

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Speaker 1: this is not going to happen. You are not called me.

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Speaker 1: I have a father. You can't go.

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Speaker 2: I can't call your dad. Ump, no, no, no, Uh,

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Speaker 2: your dad could be an og. At some point, I think.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to call the old man, but he settled

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Speaker 1: on unk. I said, we're not doing this.

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Speaker 2: AFC South mentions only well, no longer Zire Franklin's on here,

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Speaker 2: but he's no longer there, which I'm gonna say this nicely.

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Speaker 2: Zire Franklin to me was one of the more Overay

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Speaker 2: players in the league. But either way, uh, the only

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Speaker 2: other player from the AFC South to get some linebacker love.

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Speaker 1: What about a Lucan? That's it? Okay, Luka is the

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Speaker 1: only other one I.

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Speaker 2: Think he got. Also, he got also receiving votes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's the only other AFC South linebacker to get some love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Zire Franklin's now out of a division. He's

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Speaker 1: Lucan, are you seeing the Jags pick to win the

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Speaker 1: division anywhere?

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Speaker 2: I've seen people that have, Maybe it's on Twitter. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's anybody in particular that you know,

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Speaker 2: we're like, I would totally respect, but I think there

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Speaker 2: are some people like, oh, yeah, Jackson is going to

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Speaker 2: do it because Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence, you know,

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Speaker 2: they won it last year, and then Liam Cone and

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence will be better in year two together all

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So I've kind of seen that

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Speaker 2: out there. But I've not seen anybody that says, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Jackson win a division. I'ven't seen that.

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Speaker 1: And I know we're not here to talk about this

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Speaker 1: topic today, but the division coaching is now in a

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Speaker 1: much better place, oh, now that you have Robert Salah

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. And by better place, I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, oh, I don't like it at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean I prefer to have somebody else in Tennessee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trying to resurrect that thing. Could be worse, but it

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Speaker 1: a lot better. Yeah, Rich Kotech. They could have stuck

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Speaker 1: with Brian Klla. He's still be okay with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh you can good with that. Yeah, anybody. But when

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Speaker 1: I look at Jacksonville, the Liam Cone year one to

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Speaker 1: year two jump could be big. Maybe not. Maybe it's terrible.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't like it. And sh

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's terrible at all. He's always been

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Speaker 1: nine to eight, eight and nine, right if you never

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Speaker 1: won less than eight, never in all his three years,

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Speaker 1: because he's just a job what Dimico did. So he's

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Speaker 1: always been five hundred dish.

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Speaker 2: So I think about this a lot. Yeah, if I

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Speaker 2: were to go somewhere, like if I travel somewhere, so

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Speaker 2: I've traveled almost the entire country seeming this summer. If

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Speaker 1: They haven't won division since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, Alec Pierce is a really good and Jonathan

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Speaker 1: They perceived that they weren't good enough on defense, they

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Speaker 2: They all got summoned to Jim Mercey's house before he passed, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I would not have I would not have done that one.

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Speaker 2: And what do they do this year? Balid wants the draft, guys,

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Speaker 2: going through that. But it was it was really interesting

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Speaker 2: and I've watched every one of them, and I know Chris,

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Speaker 1: Is kind of like Hard Knocks Colts Draft right put

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's edited, but it makes the show. Yeah, absolutely, all right,

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Speaker 2: Well that tells us all we need to know. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think that he's a you know, he's not

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Speaker 2: the top he's not the top three corner that was

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Speaker 2: being valueed early in his career. I didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was that. I didn't think he's not two.

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Speaker 1: Once for him especially, you don't have to explain two

437
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Speaker 1: ones is too much period done? I mean who else

438
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Speaker 1: was gonna give up two ones for Sauce Gardner? You

439
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Speaker 1: might give up a one, and even at that, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would take him for a one because that's a

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Speaker 1: known quantity. For a one, I gotta pay him. I'll

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Speaker 1: take it for a one in a little land. Yet

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Speaker 1: they talked, I got it.

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Speaker 2: They talked about the contract being favorable for a trade

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Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff like, okay, but eventually

446
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Speaker 2: that money's kicking in, And is he gonna kick in

447
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Speaker 2: when he's not playing exceedingly?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you another one. Would Ballard have drafted

449
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson full of times?

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Speaker 2: Now that's a that's a different, that's a Now, that's

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Speaker 2: a sticky wicked because sticky.

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Speaker 1: But would he have drafted him because he didn't play

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Speaker 1: in college much? Right? He had all this? You and

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Speaker 1: I have talked about it. This is the quarterback. No

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Speaker 1: other quarterback has been taken this high with this little

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Speaker 1: bit of a resume in college.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem, fact, here here's the problem Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: I think no Tree Lance's resume more extensive as far

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Speaker 1: as games played in college, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they had another option in the draft.

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Speaker 2: In the draft, No, and you and I talked about this,

462
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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. Everybody that needed a quarterback had a chance

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Speaker 2: to go sign Baker Mayfield in twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't do it, other than the Colts

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Speaker 1: didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Texans didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: No, but what a what if the Colts signed Baker

468
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Speaker 1: may signed Baker Mayfield. Goodness, they didn't.

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Speaker 2: What if the Colts had signed Baker Mayfield and then

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Speaker 2: sitting at four, not allowing the Texans to trade up,

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Speaker 2: the Colts move up with the Cardinals and they get

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Speaker 2: Will Anderson junior. So they get Baker Mayfield and Will

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Speaker 2: Anderson junior. Now we would ended up with we would

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Speaker 2: have got CJ. Stroud at two. We would have stayed

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Speaker 2: at twelve or maybe moved up a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Who knows where the draft goes at that particular moment.

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Speaker 1: But you bring up a great point. But if the

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Speaker 1: Cults designed Baker may Hey.

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Speaker 2: Look, Baker Mayfield is a free agent for everybody going

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three. A lot of people thought there

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Speaker 2: was a lot of bloom off the Rose. But if

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Speaker 2: you remember, it was GM John Dorsey in Cleveland, correct

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Speaker 2: who drafted Baker Mayfield in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and where

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Speaker 2: is John Dorsey? The GM before that Kansas City? You

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Speaker 2: know who is right hand man, second in command was Ballard?

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard? Yeah, all right, Well.

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Speaker 2: What if Baker Mayfield ends up what a Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: ends up in indian as well?

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Ballard wanted to do something else like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not that exactly. Listen, every owner in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, for a team that needs a quarterback is saying, hey,

492
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Speaker 1: look who just won the Super Bowl. Look who has

493
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a love affair in South Florida,

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Speaker 1: the West coast. Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: I know they have a contract thing going on right now,

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Speaker 1: But the point is it's worked out reasonably well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was a pretty decent replacement for Tom Brady at

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Speaker 1: the very least. So tell me coaching staff, front office staff,

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Speaker 1: as I own the football team, if I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Those guys leaked through. They were both in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: The famous picture of them in the Panther uniforums, right,

502
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Speaker 1: they were both there. Anybody could have had them and

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Speaker 1: we didn't get them. Why and who's the next quarterback

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Speaker 1: or two like that that we can get that. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even expecting Super Bowl. I've been watching this

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Speaker 1: F one show, as you know. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to get in the points, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get a winning record or postseason.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. I want to be in yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: let's build from there. Okay, you can get me P

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Speaker 1: five in a race, that's huge. Yeah. So here's the

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Speaker 1: thing to me, and just step back thinking about the

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Speaker 1: offseason going into twenty twenty three. Obviously, the Colts did

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Speaker 1: not have a great twenty twenty two. That was just

515
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Speaker 1: a it was a mess. Shane Steiken takes over and.

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Speaker 2: Before you even get to the draft, as you're getting

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Speaker 2: towards free agency, I don't know if Baker was a

518
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Speaker 2: realistic option for them or not, but once free agency

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Speaker 2: basically passed, the only option they had at that point

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Speaker 2: at quarterback was Anthony Richardson. Now, there were some there

521
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Speaker 2: were a couple of cults personnel people that loved his upside,

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Speaker 2: like loved it. I mean it was one of I

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Speaker 2: mean it was the hock grow at the beach sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, you know, like that's what that's what they saw.

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Speaker 2: But you know, then they get up close and they're like, oh, whoa.

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Speaker 1: And I think Ballard.

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Speaker 2: Ballard trusts particular people in that organization, and I think that.

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Speaker 1: For that reason.

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Speaker 2: And this happens for all gms, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: people you know here with with Nick. You know, people

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Speaker 2: talk about offensive line, this offensive line that I mean.

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Speaker 2: Nick's to GM, he's got to make sure he's got

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Speaker 2: to handle on every posiosition that there is. But by

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Speaker 2: no means is that make him an expert at any

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Speaker 2: one of those positions.

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Speaker 1: So you got to listen to your position. Yeah, your

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Speaker 1: coaches at that point, right, your scouts, they don't make

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Speaker 1: the call for you. Every GM has to listen to

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Speaker 1: their caster because the coaching staff has to buy in

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Speaker 1: in order to coach the guy and get him to

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Speaker 1: reach his full potential. And it's happened here since the

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Speaker 1: get go of the franchise. We're in near twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at Rick Smith, look at drafting, JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips loved him. Obviously, several people in the building,

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Speaker 1: many loved him. Whatever the case is, you know, Rick

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Speaker 1: Smith is doing the right thing there. Brian Cushing there

547
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Speaker 1: were some other choices there, Kareem Jackson. Obviously those guys

548
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Speaker 1: turned out to be the right picks for sure, But

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Speaker 1: it's up to the GM to get the consensus, and

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Speaker 1: then you give him the credit because he's turning in

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Speaker 1: the card. But he's got to make the decision based

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Speaker 1: on the information he gets from his experts, and he's

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Speaker 1: an expert too, But you got to get a collective

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Speaker 1: sense here, you know, unless you're acting alone like he

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Speaker 1: did in the twenty seventeen draft, which that at the

556
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Speaker 1: time was a really good decision as well, so it

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Speaker 1: would not get to that ultimately didn't bear out the

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Speaker 1: way we wanted it to. But there's that as well,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'd look at that, Anthony Richardson's situation, Sauce

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Speaker 1: Gardner hiring Jeff's Saturday to be your interim coach, all

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Speaker 1: this stuff to say, ownership has a huge role in

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Speaker 1: their decision making, way more than it has here. Cal

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Speaker 1: McNair is much more of a delegator, and you guys

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Speaker 1: do what you think is right, and I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: run everything by him, and he wants sound reasoning behind everything.

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Speaker 1: But as long as there is that sound reasoning it's

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Speaker 1: the football people's thing to run the football side.

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Speaker 2: Well that's I've talked to you know, a lot a

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Speaker 2: lot of people over the years about that aspect, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, what was Rock saying? Know your role?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Know your role?

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Speaker 2: No, even even though you you know, I always feel

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Speaker 2: like Dave Tepper could probably take a lesson in this.

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Speaker 2: It's like, know your role? Oh gosh, you know, like

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Speaker 2: step back, Are you the Are you the person that's

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Speaker 2: spending your twenty hours a day up here grinding film

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Speaker 2: seeing the guys. No, you're around here. You're the owner.

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Speaker 2: It's your money, it's your team. You have the ownership, no,

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Speaker 2: no question. And I don't want to take away from that,

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Speaker 2: but understand that you went hire these football people for

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Speaker 2: that particular reason. So don't go hire them and then

582
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Speaker 2: micromanage them. Go hire them, let them do the job,

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Speaker 2: because that's why you hired them.

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Speaker 1: And that is exactly what I think the McNair's have

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Speaker 1: done here, and that is we've hired good football people.

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Speaker 1: We let them make their decisions. Absolutely, let them know

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Speaker 1: our opinions.

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Speaker 2: But we we got good football people and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: trust them.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go with.

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Speaker 2: That, and I can I respect that a thousand, one

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Speaker 2: thousand percent. And it was missus McNair, mister McNair who

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Speaker 2: set the tone, uh for Callahannah as they would take

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Speaker 2: over years after the fact. As we head into our

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth season. Now, my guy Chris Simms, well, if

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, Chris Simms put together one of

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Speaker 2: the most innate quarterback rankings I have seen in a while,

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Speaker 2: a long while historic. We'll discuss that next right here

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Speaker 2: in Texas All Access. It's telling everybody, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: this Friday issue Texans All Access. Sean Harrison, Mark Vandermere

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Speaker 2: with you in the Hyundai Texans radio studio. And boy

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Speaker 2: I found something this morning, Mark that was just wild.

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Speaker 1: Just Chris Simms, is he just going for pure clickbait? Here?

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Speaker 1: Is this just lickety click click click ranking the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but in their prime. It's prime quarterback rankings, so all time,

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Speaker 1: all time, all time, So you could pick anybody here.

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Speaker 1: Norm Van Brocklin could make the list, Art Stark hy

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Speaker 1: a Tittle could be on this list.

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Speaker 2: Probably not going to because that was an ear and

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Speaker 2: they didn't throw the ball that much, so I can

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Speaker 2: understand it.

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Speaker 1: Van Brocklin holds the all time single game passing yardage record,

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Speaker 1: still does, still does. Matt got close. Matt's five twenty

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Speaker 1: seven second tied with Warren Moon. Yeah, and Matt for

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Speaker 1: that game against Jacksonville overtime. So Matt and Warren Moon

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Speaker 1: are tied for second, which is kind of a cool

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Speaker 1: stat to me. That's a cool stat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Simms did for his Unbuttoned podcast. He did

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Speaker 2: the all time in an air quotes and doing a

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Speaker 2: little thing in my fingers in their prime quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start from ten because nine is very interesting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Roger Staubach is ten. Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean I was, I was young Kidan Rodgers playing it always.

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Speaker 2: He scared the hell out of me. Okay, as a

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Speaker 2: Packers fan, I like that fear fact. I hated when

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Speaker 2: they faced the Cowboys. Always thought Staubach was the reason

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Speaker 2: why they were great. Yeah, being a measurement fear factor

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Speaker 2: is good.

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Speaker 1: I like that. So let's leave that aside for now.

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Speaker 1: We can debate if somebody else belongs in that slot

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Speaker 1: and give you the rest of the names. We'll go

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Speaker 1: right to number nine, and he has Tom Brady ranked ninth.

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. This is beyond ridiculous. This his clickty clickbait,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Because you have the greatest quarterback

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Speaker 1: of all time at number nine, and he has won

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Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls. I want you to think about that

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Speaker 1: for a moment. Seven super Bowls, two.

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00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Different teams, six with one one with the other.

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Speaker 1: Not just winning super bowls. Doing what I do, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that when Tom Brady is quarterbacking the

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: opposing team, it is absolutely terrifying, scaring a fear factor.

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Speaker 1: They're down, and the guys at number one is good

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00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: at this too, by the way, but he's looking at

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Speaker 1: your defense, talking to his team, reshuffling the formation, and

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00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: then the ball is out so quick and so accurately,

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Speaker 1: there's no recourse for your defense. Got a good pass rush, sorry,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The ball came out too fast, Got good coverage,

648
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The ball was placed perfectly so the receiver

649
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: caught it on the fly before you really could react

650
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: to it. Well, And he didn't win every game, but

651
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Brady's the best quarterback I've ever seen live. Whatever. I

652
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: love Joe Montana too, but let's just go with Tom

653
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Speaker 1: Brady at number nine. Chris Sims all right, let's keep going.

654
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: Number eight Dan Marino. Look, I love Dan Marino Jrio,

655
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Speaker 1: But in no universe, even in his prime, is Dan

656
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Marino a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Now, he's a great,

657
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: as Greg Coso would say, thrower of the football and

658
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: fun fun af to watch Dan Marino. When you look

659
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: at his numbers, it is so impressive compared to today's numbers.

660
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Andre's college numbers. Andre Bear's college

661
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: numbers impressive today. Even Dan Marino's NFL numbers still impressive today.

662
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: Just ridiculous touchdown past numbers and yardage numbers. He's got

663
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson seven. All right, fine, I'm gonna give you

664
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Speaker 1: the names and then we'll just shuffle Josh Allen six.

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Speaker 1: These are quarterbacks in their prime ten according to Chris

666
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Speaker 1: Simms Brett fav five interesting, John Elway four, okay, Aaron

667
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Speaker 1: Rodgers three, Patrick Mahomes two and number one all time

668
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: in his prime, Peyton Manning. Are you kidding? Okay? I

669
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Speaker 1: love Manning and Manning's great at the line of scrimmage

670
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Speaker 1: two unbelievable fear factor very high. But Manning, you know,

671
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Speaker 1: when you look at winning and the Colts did have

672
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Speaker 1: a decent defense and did have two Hall of Fame

673
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Speaker 1: on the edges, two Hall of Fame players or at

674
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Speaker 1: least one. Freenie's in and matthis is getting it or

675
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Speaker 1: the finalist list all right, whatever mathis is freaking awesome. Yeah, okay, uh,

676
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Speaker 1: But Manning and you know, Marvin Harrison Hall of Fame,

677
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Dallas Clark all world tight end, Reggie Waying could would

678
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame, Edge Edger and

679
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: James Hall of Fame, and then Joseph died not in

680
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but he's a pretty good running back.

681
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Offensive line ridiculous.

682
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Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday constant Pro Bowl.

683
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: Now maybe those offensive A lot of ficionados who criticized

684
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: them say, well, they wouldn't have been that good without Manning.

685
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Fine ball comes out quick, doesn't matter. It's in the

686
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: hands of Dallas Clark. He's already got eight yards in

687
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: the first down before you could blink.

688
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: You could flip this list and put Brady at one,

689
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: at Peyton, Manning at nine. I don't think anybody would

690
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: have paid attention. I think everybody who had been like, yep.

691
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Speaker 1: Right, see, how can you make the case Manning over Brady,

692
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: this far this many, this many men between them on

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Speaker 1: a list, especially guys like Brett favor who Brett Farr

694
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Speaker 1: is awesome. Brett Farv was so much fun to watch play.

695
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: Brett Farv gunslinger, Brett Farv pulling plays out of as

696
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: you know what. It was amazing. But is he better?

697
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Speaker 1: Is he better than Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Dan Marino,

698
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I mean Brett Favre strikes

700
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Speaker 2: me as kind of the Keith Richards of this group.

701
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know music better than I do.

702
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: But just thinking of Brett Farv, I mean everybody to say,

703
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, people are surprised Keith Richard is still walking

704
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: through the earth. And yet Richards would go out and

705
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: just put together a set and you're like, ah wow.

706
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Speaker 1: But like a quick guitar note there, sometimes Keith Richards

707
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: shows up in top ten guitarists like rock guitars. Yeah,

708
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: you have to be clear, and the guitarists know he

709
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: deserves to be on there, not because he's flashying can shred,

710
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: but because he's so clever, creative. The IP is so

711
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: high with him, the quality of stuff, the songwriting, the

712
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: licks the different tunings anyway, go on, okay, so help.

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Speaker 2: Me with math here. Peyton one two, Holmes has won three,

714
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Speaker 2: Rogers one, l Way two, Farv one. So that's nine, right, yeah,

715
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: Josh none, Lamar none, Damn Reno none.

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Speaker 1: So if we're going Super Bowls, Heredi, it's nine to seven,

717
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: everybody nine to seven.

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Speaker 2: The guy at number nine has seven, and the eight

719
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: guys in front of him have a combined nine.

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Speaker 1: No Joe Montana on this list.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing too. When you mentioned Joe

722
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Montana earlier, I'm like, come on, now, that is that

723
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: is that's gross Joe Montanna. Now, there there will be

724
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: some people detractors of Joe Montanna say, well, you know

725
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: Steve Young would take over for him or whatever. Look,

726
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty you could take eighty four eighty nine Montana

727
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: was right smack. I mean, Montana was as good as

728
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: he had been in his career in eighty four and

729
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: eighty nine.

730
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: Those are two years they won championships.

731
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: The eighty nine offense is as good as ever because

732
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Montana did that thing where he would go to the

733
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage black fifty nine rais or black fifty

734
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: nine in the Super Bowl and then throw a post

735
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: rout to Jerry Rice touchdown. So Joe had the West

736
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Coast offense down to a te Joe Montana in his prime,

737
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: even though you look across and go, that skinny looking

738
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: six to two hundred pound quarterback is gonna beat me. Yeah,

739
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: and he beat you with his legs. He beat you

740
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: with his arms and his mind. Joe Montana not being

741
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: on his lists. I think that's that's almost more egregious

742
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: than Brady at nine and Manning at one.

743
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: When you look at eras because we like to talk

744
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: about this in sports, and it's easier to do with quarterbacks.

745
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: Actually it is than a lot of other position plays,

746
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: right right, because you could look at an old lineman

747
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: from the nineteen seventies and say, I don't think he's

748
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: going to be an old linman today. He's just big enough.

749
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: That's exactly liman or whatever. Right, So quarterbacks, you can

750
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: do it. Joe Montana today would be unbelievable. Unbelievable in

751
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: today's systems, with today's rules, all these guys, Stabach, are

752
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: you kidding?

753
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, with the way that the run game for

754
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks now, I mean, Roger would have been impressive. You know,

755
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: I'd love Josh and Josh is an alien. I love

756
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: Lamar and what I say, I love them. I love

757
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: it when I can watch them on TV on a

758
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Sunday night and my team is not playing against them.

759
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Those guys, they scare me. Even though Josh has had

760
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: his struggles here at Reliant Stadium, I Lamar has never had.

761
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: An issue with US.

762
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Effort and incredible, and so that obviously paints your opinion

763
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: of him. I can't put those two. I mean, Joe

764
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Montana's got to be ahead of those two, and Brady

765
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: should definitely not be at nine. Now, if you want

766
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: to argue for Mahomes, Rogers, l Way head of Brady,

767
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: you maybe have a shot. You can't. You cannot, you cannot.

768
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: I saw him playing college at Tennessee. I saw him

769
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: play against Florida. I saw him play up close in

770
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: the NFL. You cannot make a case in my mind,

771
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I know you threw for fifty

772
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: plus interception touchdowns in both Indianapolis and Denver. You cannot

773
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: make a case for me of manning over Brady.

774
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: Can't do it. Okay, so can't do it. Let's just

775
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: do this quickly. The Texans have faced in the texans

776
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: lifetime twenty four seasons of professional football. Yep, all but

777
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: three of these quarterbacks. Right, So they didn't face Stabach,

778
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: they didn't face Dan Marino, they didn't face Elway l Way.

779
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I was looking quickly. Right, let me give

780
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: you my scary ratings fear factor you called every game

781
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: so you yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go Brady Won. I'll

782
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: say my homes two. Yeah, I agree with that Manning three. Okay,

783
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: Rogers is tough man. I know they've beaten him twice,

784
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: but it was his first year starting and his latest

785
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: year starting.

786
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: And in between there in twenty twelve, you put on

787
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: a show on Sunday night. Here in twenty sixteen, he's

788
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: on one leg and beat us in the snow.

789
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: And he dissected us. I mean it was just disected us.

790
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: He beat us with the Jets. But I have to

791
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: put Lamar Jackson ahead of them still. I'll put Lamar

792
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: ahead of them. Then I'll go Rogers, then i'll go Josh,

793
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: then i'll go Farv And I think I got everybody.

794
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: That's everybody. Yeah, I'll rank them like that. Those are

795
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: my scary factory quarterback rankings. They're all scary, man Like,

796
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: it's third and five for them. I'm sitting here like

797
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: chattering teeth in the booth. What's gonna happened? Are we

798
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: going to get off the field? Please? But early on,

799
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: the Manning Brady factor was so strong. However, Maholmes is

800
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: just awful, and it was so frustrating losing in the

801
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: playoffs and all that other stuff. So I'll put those

802
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: guys there. Never called a game. I never did with

803
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Dan Marino on the other side, and Roger Staubach obviously

804
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: at John Elway obviously. So I started calling NFL games. Well,

805
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: my first one was the one postseason. It could have

806
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: been Marino maybe if he played another couple of years.

807
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: It was Jay Fiedler playing for the Dolphins. Yeast the.

808
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: Dartmouth baby.

809
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Marino's replacement. He was actually not a

810
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: bad quarterback, and they had some pretty decent teams. Those

811
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: were their last like solid teams that were consistent.

812
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: Is there I mean other than I mean Joe you

813
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: we didn't. You didn't call the games with Joe?

814
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: No. Is there any other quarterback that that we've seen

815
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: that I that we've seen that. We would say, you

816
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: know what, scary list, maybe maybe this guy? And I, well,

817
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I consistently Andrew Luck pretty scared.

818
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty scary. I'll give you one that's kind

819
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: of off the beaten path. Never won a championship. But

820
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: I guarantee you if you if you gave a list

821
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks to defensive coordinators in the early two thousands

822
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: of the NFL and said which one keeps you up

823
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: at night, they would point to Michael Vick and go

824
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: that dude, Yeah, that guy. We saw him, yeah, Vic

825
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: in those early years with Atlanta when he took off

826
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: with the football. I guarantee you everybody on the other

827
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: side was.

828
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Speaker 1: Like, oh bleep. I want to say that Texans beat

829
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: him in three here. Michael Vick was a scary, scary dude,

830
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: and they lost to him in twenty ten on the

831
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: Thursday night game that was right after the Courtland Finnigan game.

832
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is one, and we talked about this

833
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: last night a little bit.

834
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

835
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Speaker 2: I don't think he belongs in the top ten, but

836
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: I wonder where Chris Sims would have put, or any

837
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: of us would put. Matthew Stafford.

838
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: He didn't put him in his top ten.

839
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: So I mean, Stafford, what's his crime?

840
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Is his prime now? Yes, that's prime is right now.

841
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: I think his prime is when he went to the

842
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: Rams and he got linked up with McVeigh. I think

843
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: his prime is right now. As crazy as it sounds,

844
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: guy was the freaking MVP of the league.

845
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Just he got to the.

846
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game going against Seattle's defense, and we know

847
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: how good Seattle's defense was. He carved him up.

848
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: He did, he did well. These are fun conversations and

849
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: he does belong in there somewhere, but maybe not top ten.

850
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you, I could go on about that

851
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: for days. But Tom Brady ninth. Come on, Chris. You

852
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: know I've come around on you. Man. You know I

853
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: have come around on you, Chris Simms. But that was

854
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: sort of luded, Chris. Now, where do we stay in NFL?

855
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Over time?

856
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: We'll solve it next kind of right here at Texas

857
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Speaker 2: All Access, Welcome back this Friday, Edyshear of Texans All Access,

858
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Speaker 2: John and Mark coming at you from the Hunt of

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: You said something during a break.

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Speaker 2: Something's bothering you, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Now? We complained about World Cup overtime, and by we

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, because oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you gotta play two fifteen minute periods and there's no

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Speaker 1: golden goals. So if somebody scores in the first fifteen

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Speaker 1: minute overtime period, you're still gonna play that second one. Really,

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Speaker 1: do you need to You just played ninety minutes to

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Speaker 1: a tie. Fifteen extra minutes not enough to decide it.

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Speaker 1: I get no sudden death I guess I think sudden

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Speaker 1: deaths should be the way to go. By the way

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Speaker 1: for that too. But to their credit, now they have

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Speaker 1: to but to their credit, they do end the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do end the game. Now they find a

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Speaker 2: way to come up with a winner.

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Speaker 1: I get regular season soccer and even group play in

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Speaker 1: the World Cup. They end with ties. They still have ties.

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Speaker 1: But Johnny, it's time for the NFL in the regular

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Speaker 1: season to do away with ties. No ties. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you want to play ten minutes and have every you know,

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Speaker 1: each team gets a possession, fine, but I want to

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Speaker 1: go to the two yard line after to ten minutes

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Speaker 1: and let's end this thing right here. Can we please

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Speaker 1: end the game? How about I get a possession, You

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Speaker 1: get a possession guaranteed, maybe even untimed.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do. Untimed, that's I would I

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Speaker 2: would be untimed. You get a possession, I get a possession.

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Speaker 2: If we're still tied after that, you'll kick field goals

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Speaker 2: or both.

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Speaker 1: You know, even though theoretically or very easily, those two

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Speaker 1: possessions could each take over ten minutes combined. They could, yes,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen that before when you're running out of clock.

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Speaker 1: They could. If you're waiting for your possession, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to know.

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Speaker 2: What the percentages are for that, but you're right, some

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Speaker 2: of them would.

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Speaker 1: What would be sweeter than a ten minute drive in

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Speaker 1: overtime and you're like five seconds left, we're at the

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Speaker 1: one and we punch it in. We'll just kick the

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Speaker 1: field goal at that point because you're not getting the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's the one I would go with. Now,

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Speaker 2: you're right, it could go over ten minutes, but most

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Speaker 2: times you're probably not, so you each get a possession. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I think it would create some really interest thought

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Speaker 2: processes for each team. Like you're about to go three

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Speaker 2: and out on your possession, and you're sitting there looking

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Speaker 2: at fourth and four at your I don't know, minus

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Speaker 2: thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Do you go for it? Do you do you risk?

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, our defense has got to come up with

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Speaker 2: a stop and then we'll go. Because my next point

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Speaker 2: is each gets a possession, and then you go to

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Speaker 2: the two yard line. Yeah, so then you go two

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Speaker 2: point plays from there.

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Speaker 1: And okay, so you're saying go for it there because

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Speaker 1: you know you're not getting an extra possession no matter what. Right,

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Speaker 1: even if they fumble, what if they fumble the punt return? Ooh,

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Speaker 1: that's different. That's a I don't know, it's all different

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Speaker 1: ball game right there. Did they ever have possession? Do

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Speaker 1: you never had possession? Well maybe they did, but they

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Speaker 1: fumble they fumbled it, so yeah, yeah, so what did

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Speaker 1: they turn it? What did they throw a pick? They're

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Speaker 1: deep in their own end. We didn't get anywhere we

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Speaker 1: punt it. They throw a pick? You got it at

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Speaker 1: they're twenty. Now we got to go to the two yards.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You each get a possession, get a possession.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, team goes down, scores a touchdown, kicks the

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Speaker 2: extra point. Other team comes down, scores a touchdown miles

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Speaker 2: ago for two because you're gonna have to in just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: I just like ending the game. I agree. So whether

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Speaker 1: it's ten minutes or each team gets a possession, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the two, and we're gonna be here

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Speaker 1: till somebody wins this game and just do conversions.

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Speaker 2: And you know when college did that, I think it

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Speaker 2: was three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Because it went to an astronomical amount State Illinois nine.

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Speaker 2: They went to nine overtimes because they call each after

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Speaker 2: they call each little possession for each team in overtime.

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Speaker 2: So when nine overtimes, now those teams were offensively challenged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, OK, very very much. So I like my idea.

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Speaker 1: Just end the game. I can't believe this isn't already

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Speaker 1: in place. End the freaking game.

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Speaker 2: I I just I think the on time thing would

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it hell. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 2: like ten minutes, but I just I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: you each get a possession or the end of ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's maybe it's too much to

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Speaker 2: think about, but you gotta come out of there with

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Speaker 2: a winner. You have to come out of there with

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Speaker 2: the winners. Is America. Yes, we need. Somebody's gotta win.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gotta win. The freaking's America. Somebody's gotta win, damn right.

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Speaker 2: And we won because we are on the air tonight.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys being with us. You guys won because

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Speaker 2: you listen to us, and my guys back at Portoreo six'

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Speaker 2: ten they win because they're just, awesome and we all

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Speaker 2: win and that's good and hopefully The texans are about

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Speaker 2: to win big this. Year that would be. Fantastic appreciate

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Speaker 2: you guys for being here with. Me have a great.

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Speaker 2: Weekend we'll see On, monday and as, always Go.

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Speaker 1: Texans