WEBVTT - Super Bowl Edition: Cynthia Frelund

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<v Speaker 1>My Italian mother. We went to my closest My close

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<v Speaker 1>friend in college is Matthias q and Uka, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive end for the New York Giants. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to a game where he played in Detroit and he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt. As we were walking out, she went in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, came back out, threw her shirt away. Luckily

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<v Speaker 1>she was wearing a jacket over it. But she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all my fault, it's the shirt, and we're like

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<v Speaker 1>it so my mom caused an injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Stand Yeah, I would never think anything like that. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Cynthia Freeland and I am an expert dog mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello friends, and welcome back to the Broadway smash hit

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<v Speaker 2>Off the Beat. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course this isn't a Broadway hit at all, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. Thank you all for listening today. It's well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the second week of February, and does anybody know

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<v Speaker 2>what that means? Raise your hands please, I can't see them.

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<v Speaker 2>But this Sunday is America's newest national holiday. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Super Bowl Sunday. I'm excited. I hope at least

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<v Speaker 2>some of you are as well. Whether you're watching for

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<v Speaker 2>the game, or for the commercials, or for Usher the

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<v Speaker 2>halftime performer. Super Bowl Sunday is a day that well,

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<v Speaker 2>we all get to sit around and eat bad food

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<v Speaker 2>and consume various beverages. Super Bowl fifty eight the San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco forty nine Ers versus the Kansas City Chiefs. As

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<v Speaker 2>many of you know, I actually do not have a

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<v Speaker 2>specific dog in this fight, but I do expect it

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very very good game.

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<v Speaker 3>Two of the bests.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, no one can argue that, and two of

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<v Speaker 2>the best franchises in football squaring off in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Chiefs, their last Super Bowl was well it

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<v Speaker 2>was last year, so they're looking to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>back for the first time since the Patriots won Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowls thirty eight and thirty nine back in four and five. Friends,

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<v Speaker 2>nearly twenty years ago. I couldn't believe that when I

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up. The Niners, speaking of shocking to me

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<v Speaker 2>at least, I can't believe they have not won the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl for almost thirty years now.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, that makes me feel so old. It felt like

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<v Speaker 3>they were winning every super Bowl for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Their last super Bowl victory super Bowl twenty nine in Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>where Steve Young was still the quarterback. Although the Niners

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<v Speaker 2>have not won in twenty nine years, these two teams

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<v Speaker 2>met a mirror four years ago Super Bowl fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Many many of the of the people are that said,

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<v Speaker 2>the coaches are the same, Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of the players are the same. Patrick mahomes Otto

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<v Speaker 2>State Farm joke, Travis Kelsey. Has Travis Kelsey been in

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<v Speaker 2>the news this year at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Much from Travis since I saw him at the American

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<v Speaker 2>Century Championship last year. It's like he's hasn't been in

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<v Speaker 2>the news that much. Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle, many, many more.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two differences though for the Niners, of course, Christian

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<v Speaker 2>McCaffrey and mister no longer irrelevant Rock Purdy. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>going to be enough against?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Against Probably It's the biggest change for the Chiefs their defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked it up, depending on which metrics and numbers

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever you use, but most people say the number

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<v Speaker 2>two total defense in the league this year. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find anyone who ranked them outside of the top five.

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<v Speaker 2>A very very differently constructed team this year for the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>though of course they still have Patrick Mahomes. Now, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of numbers, we have the amazing Cynthia Freeland on the

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast today special visit for Super Bowl Week. She is,

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<v Speaker 2>as many of you know, the numbers expert over at

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Network, And in just a few minutes I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to have her on to get her valuable insight

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<v Speaker 2>on the big game and see if I can get

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<v Speaker 2>any of you.

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<v Speaker 3>With a shall we say, financial interest.

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<v Speaker 2>In the game, well, maybe get you a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of help. Cynthia is going to be joining us in

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes, but first I wanted to take a

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<v Speaker 2>little pause here and talk about my year so far.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I love talking to all my great guests here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like that's what this program is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>I never wanted to be about me, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>get questions on social media and when I run into

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<v Speaker 2>people about what it is that I'm doing. They'll see

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<v Speaker 2>a picture on social media. Why are you in Orlando?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do? Are you a golfer?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I want to take a few minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>just talk about what I've been doing and specifically an

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<v Speaker 2>event i'll talk about in a minute that was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very meaningful for me. I want to start back a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago. I was in or Land for Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>I always whenever I say now Orlando, I think of

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Mormon song Orlando. The Hilton Grant Vacations

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<v Speaker 2>Tournament of Champions. They're in Orlando, Florida. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was born in Orlando, and my grandparents lived there

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<v Speaker 2>there most of their lives, so I spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time in the Orlando area. It's always great to

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<v Speaker 2>go back. But the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not let's just say this, it's not relaxing, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It is five days of golf. It is a professional

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<v Speaker 2>golf tournament. Celebrities are playing in a professional golf tournament

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<v Speaker 2>alongside the LPGA players. Any player who has won a

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<v Speaker 2>tournament over the last three year now, winning any golf

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<v Speaker 2>tournament is not easy. Winning a professional golf tournament on

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<v Speaker 2>the LPGA Tour is certainly no small feet. So we

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<v Speaker 2>played along them. I played five days.

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<v Speaker 3>In a row.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked for four of them, and well, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say it was It started out well for me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>probably my best tournament round, at least in a long

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<v Speaker 2>long time. I had a few birdies. Round one I

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<v Speaker 2>played really well. My best score certainly at the Orlando

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<v Speaker 2>tournament there at Lake Nona Golf Club, And on eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>I made birdie on the first day. And I've told

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<v Speaker 2>a few people since I walked into the clubhouse. I

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<v Speaker 2>was playing at the end of the day and I

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<v Speaker 2>walked in the clubhouse and most of the other players

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<v Speaker 2>were assembled there having lunch, and all the televisions were on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I birdied eighteen and I walked in the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, it was like I had just had

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<v Speaker 2>a movie premiere.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I felt. I walked into the room and people.

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<v Speaker 2>Were clapping and yelling, and because everyone had just seen

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<v Speaker 2>on national television my let's call it a twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Foot birdie up the hill, drifting right.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly into the hole and uh, and everyone was in

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<v Speaker 2>there watching obviously when I walked in not too much later,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one of the best, the best sports feelings that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever had. Now we then played Round two didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go quite as well. Round three kind of the same

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<v Speaker 2>as Round two. By Round four, I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else on the planet. Okay, it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>the struggle. It was a struggle buss as we call

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<v Speaker 2>it in the business. Not easy, it was. It was rainy,

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<v Speaker 2>it was windy, it was cold. I wasn't happy. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm out there on the course and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, why do I do this to myself?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I out? Why I'm not This is not

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<v Speaker 2>my chosen profession. Why am I golfing on television in

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<v Speaker 2>front of people walking this course eight plus miles by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, in the rain and wet and cold?

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I doing? Why am I here?

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<v Speaker 2>And in the weeks, a couple of weeks since I left,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized why I did it. I ran into Charlie Reimer,

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<v Speaker 2>professional golfer, Golf Channel analyst and was talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>about it and saying that, like, why am I doing

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<v Speaker 2>this to myself?

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, well, people.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't realize who just think of golf as being in

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<v Speaker 2>a golf cart, having beverages, hitting the ball every few minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they like it's not really a sport. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very different thing where you're walking in these

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<v Speaker 2>tough conditions and rain and wind and cold and the

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<v Speaker 2>strain that it puts on your body. Have doing that

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<v Speaker 2>same repetitive motion for four straight five straight days, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, walking for and some people playing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six or seven days in a row. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for me, the physical challenge, the mental challenge because

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<v Speaker 2>mentally it's very difficult as well to stay focused for

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<v Speaker 2>so long.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love doing it gives me so

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<v Speaker 3>much joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in the moment sometimes when I think I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be here anymore, it gives me a tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>amount of joy. So I appreciate Hilton Grand Vacations inviting

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<v Speaker 2>me out, and that's another reason I'm there. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is they put on a hell of an event there

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<v Speaker 2>at Lake Nona Golf Club. The people at Lake Nona

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<v Speaker 2>do a great job. This is a Chancechampionship level course,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly because we're playing the Tournament of Champions there, but

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<v Speaker 2>also it's so incredible for me to get to play

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<v Speaker 2>with the pros there. Lydia Coe, who I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>know over the last several years, both at PXG when

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<v Speaker 2>she was at PXG and then also here at the

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<v Speaker 2>Tournament of Champions.

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<v Speaker 3>She was the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen under for the week in incredibly difficult conditions this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so happy and proud of her.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got to play with some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>The first day I am paired in a professional golf

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<v Speaker 2>event with the number one player in the world, Lilya

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<v Speaker 2>Fu unbelievable. I also got to play with Leona Maguire,

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<v Speaker 2>Paulo Rito, Jennifer cup Cho. I had a great, great

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<v Speaker 2>time and watching them play golf, seeing their distance control

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<v Speaker 2>and their accuracy off the tee is.

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<v Speaker 3>Really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to congratulate the Flying Squirrel Jeff McNeil

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<v Speaker 2>baseball player for the New York Mets, two time All Star,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two All Star, starting second basement. He won

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<v Speaker 2>the batting title that year, Silver Slugger Award. Apparently he's

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<v Speaker 2>one hell of a golfer. We use the old Stableford

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<v Speaker 2>format in the Celebrity Division, which means basically, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>get any worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Than double bogie. I mean, let's just sum it.

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<v Speaker 2>Up that way so we get positive numbers there. One

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. He finished two ahead of playing playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the Celebrity Division. Oh just LPGA legend and Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>famer an akasaurans Dam. Yeah, she finished two behind and

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<v Speaker 2>she lives on the course. Jeff obviously was playing well.

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<v Speaker 2>He was playing some hell of a golf that week,

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<v Speaker 2>so congratulations to him. I just wanted to take a

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<v Speaker 2>moment to thank everybody there in Orlando for a great week.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have never gone out to an LPGA event, well,

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<v Speaker 2>in the words of Nike, just do it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Suffice it to say, when I finished there on that cold, wet,

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<v Speaker 2>windy Sunday, I did not want to play golf at

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<v Speaker 2>all anymore, except I had to, because shortly after that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to I traveled across the other pond, the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Ocean, to the Big Island of Hawaii. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the ACE Shootout there in Hawaii, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to take a couple moments here and tell you about

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<v Speaker 2>the A Shootout. I was moved so much on this

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<v Speaker 2>latest trip. I'm still probably suffering from jet lag, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little jittery, still feel a little emotional about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to try as best I can to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a little bit about the A shootout. ACE

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<v Speaker 2>Hardware for twenty seven years they have been putting on

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<v Speaker 2>this event, the A Shootout, ACE Hardware and their their

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<v Speaker 2>vendor partners, Craftsmen, is one shark bite many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They have raised forty million dollars for Children's Miracle Network hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>Just through the A Shootout, we had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>meet niall of the one of their heroes, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the kids who has been served by one of the

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals in the Children's Miracle Network. He is beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>child with an amazing spirit, perseverance. He recently received cocular

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<v Speaker 2>implants and is starting now to hear for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>In his life.

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<v Speaker 2>And the opportunity, the gift that I had by going

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<v Speaker 2>to this event and meeting Nile and many other patients

0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:38.400
<v Speaker 2>who are served, was well, it was unbelievable. It was

0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.520
<v Speaker 2>an unbelievable experience for me and made me feel so

0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.800
<v Speaker 2>lucky to be present there. As I said, forty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars this year. This year alone, for this week during

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the A Shootout, they raised over three point six million

0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.880
<v Speaker 2>dollars for Children's Miracle Network hospitals.

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully, I didn't have to walk.

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<v Speaker 2>For four days in a row, and I until we

0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:11.320
<v Speaker 2>started the skills competition, I did not pick up a

0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.640
<v Speaker 2>golf club in between Orlando and that. People are like,

0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.720
<v Speaker 2>are you going to play a practice round? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to to the range? I was like, look, I've

0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 2>hit enough balls, because I hit more than most in Orlando.

0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I either am going to have it or I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>And no amount of pounding balls on the range is

0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 2>going to help me. But thankfully it's a it's a

0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:39.560
<v Speaker 2>skills challenge type format. Other celebrities who were lucky enough

0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to be there Greg Maddox, Hall of Fame pitcher Darren

0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Williams and JJ Burrea from the National Basketball Association NFL

0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 2>legends and Super Bowl champions like Tim Brown and Santonio Holmes,

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<v Speaker 2>who I had not met before. Santonio Holmes is credited

0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 2>with some might say the greatest catch in Super Bowl

0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>history super Bowl forty three. He was named the MVP,

0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and since I have since I met him, I've been

0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 2>back watched on YouTube replay is still there forty seconds

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.680
<v Speaker 2>left of the game. Ben Roethlisberger throws the ball into

0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the corner of the end zone, Santonio Holmes catches it

0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.879
<v Speaker 2>to help them win the game. He was named Super

0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Bowl MVP and also, more significantly than all of that

0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.639
<v Speaker 2>that was my first Super Bowl. For Super Bowl, I

0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:49.399
<v Speaker 2>was at the game and I saw it happen live

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and in person, I thought, this is the greatest play

0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen live when I saw it, especially with

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.600
<v Speaker 2>so much on the line. But the reason I was

0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 2>at that game was because immediately following that catch, now

0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.199
<v Speaker 2>there's an awards ceremony and so forth. So you know,

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe forty five minutes later on NBC The Office what

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.919
<v Speaker 2>aired after the Super Bowl, the episode Stress Relief with

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.679
<v Speaker 2>the largest audience obviously airing after the Super Bowl in

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.679
<v Speaker 2>the history of the show. And that's why I was

0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.480
<v Speaker 2>there at the game. So that moment holds a special

0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:36.760
<v Speaker 2>significance for me. But also just that that whole day,

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:43.720
<v Speaker 2>that whole experience of being there in Tampa is it's

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 2>a cool It's a cool thing to me. And so

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.679
<v Speaker 2>to be able to one go to this event and

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.840
<v Speaker 2>two have Santonio Holmes there, and three be able to

0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.359
<v Speaker 2>tell him that story that he is now whether you

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.439
<v Speaker 2>know he knew it not, he didn't know it before

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 2>that that that evening when I told him, But he's

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<v Speaker 2>he is a part of my history, my personal history,

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's what's so cool about sports. There's

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 2>so many people were affected one way or the other

0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.399
<v Speaker 2>by that moment, some because they were rooting for a

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 2>specific team, but some sometimes other things that were involved.

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.639
<v Speaker 2>For me, the office airing after that game was was

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.040
<v Speaker 2>truly special. So to be able to tell him that story,

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 2>which he I don't know, he at least seemed interested

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and that was that was fun. Also have to mention

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.919
<v Speaker 2>Michael Waltrip was there. Every event is made better with

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Michael Waltrip being there. Of course Fox Sports, NASCAR contributor

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and two time Daytona five hundred champion Michael Waltrip and

0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 2>many many others. By the way, it's a it's a

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just a special special event benefiting many of the

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>children's hospitals through CMN A hospital very near and dear

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to my heart, Rady's Children's Hospital in San Diego. They

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.399
<v Speaker 2>were able to benefit because of my participation in the event.

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I named them as my benefactor for any money that

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<v Speaker 2>I may or may not have won, But that's why

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I participated. That's why I drug myself from Orlando to

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Hawaii to participate in that event. Now, there's many ways

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:38.479
<v Speaker 2>for the hospitals to win by winning or placing in

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:43.879
<v Speaker 2>various challenges, and also Milwaukee Tools sponsored a fan favorite

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 2>competition as well. How did I do? How much was

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I able to win or not win for Radi's Children's Hospital.

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well you got to tune in to find that out

0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 2>April twenty second on the Golf Channel, because when I

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.879
<v Speaker 2>say Golf Channel, I'm sure you all think of me

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 2>because at least, well at least at the beginning of

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, I've been on the Golf Channel about

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 2>as much as anybody. Hopefully that's going to subside soon

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get back to some other, some other business

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>at hand. But yeah, I just wanted to take a

0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.919
<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes. You know, we I love talking to

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 2>my guests, but I do get questions at times. What

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 2>is what you posted? Why are you in Hawaii? What

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 2>are you doing traveling? Or why are you on another airplane? Well,

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.920
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's for fun, sometimes it's for competition, and sometimes

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>well it's for other people who need need some help.

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 2>So that has been my time. And speaking of travel, yeah,

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the road again this week, back to football.

0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I will be departing in mirror hours to Viva Las

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight. I've got some other

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 2>events happening there, but this week I could not let

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 2>this week go by without talking to Cynthia Freeland. Cynthia

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 2>born in Michigan, A rabbit, some might say rabbit, Detroit

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Lions fan.

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I know she had.

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 2>She had her heart broken by the Niners last week,

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know a little bit of me died last

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>week too with that game. I was really rooting for

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Detroit and the Lions. But I think now with Dan

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Campbell there in Detroit, the Lions are going to be

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 2>relevant here and have a shot for years to come,

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>although green Bay looking pretty good as well. Cynthia went

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to Boston College. She got a biology degree. Then she

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 2>went to Northwestern. She got a Master of Business Administration

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>degree in finance entrepreneurship, which I find the most difficult

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 2>word in the English language to say, by the way.

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Entrepreneurship and innovation.

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Also a Master of Science degree on predictive analysis from

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>said Northwestern University. Let's face it, Cynthia does the numbers

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 2>way better than I do, or ever did. Since twenty sixteen,

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>she's been at the NFL Network, and today she's going

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>to tell us who's going to win Super Bowl fifty eight.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Hi said the uh, how are you? I'm so good?

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>How are you?

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm soaked. The dog has had me outside

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen times today, so.

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 3>A little sick dog. I understand.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 1>He decided that he was going to drink all of

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>the water out of the puddle, and that gave him

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not a very happy.

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 2>So this is people talk about the storm of the

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.919
<v Speaker 2>century here in southern California, it has even more repercussions.

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 3>For you, this is the.

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Grossest storm I've ever lived through. Let me just like

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a literal poop storm for me. Oh okay, yeah.

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Well you'll be uh, you'll be in Vegas soon and

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 2>somebody else will be dealing with that.

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Are you packed? Are you ready to go? O?

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even close. I gotta figure I mean, I'm

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of a last minute backer, though, so I'll figured

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it out. I'll figure it out.

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Well, first off, my condolences on the Lions last week.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Have you recovered yet?

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You know it was pretty quick after that. I figured

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>out like to be more happy that they exceeded expectations

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>than being sad about how it ended. It just sucks

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>when you have such a big lead and then the

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>other team comes back and with but whatever. I mean,

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>they're a little earlier in terms of their sort of

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>rebuild and the expectations I had, so on some level,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I got a chance to go to one of the

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>playoff games at home. I was in Detroit. I got

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>a chance to buy the entire bar round of drinks,

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>which was very inexpensive round of drinks that way, but

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it was so much fun. I've never done that before.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>It be like the whole bars on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's awesome.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>It was, like I said, in Detroit, that's far more reasonable.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, right, yeah, buying a round of drinks in uh

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>in in Detroit, that's well, it would not be the

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>same as in the on the coast there in Los Angeles.

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 3>I got to ask.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>You, you know, Dan Campbell, he's not it's not riverboat Ron,

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>it's uh gambling Dan.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we need a literation. Yeah, what do you what?

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>What what do you what do you think about about

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 2>about about his style and do you think, uh, do

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>you think it hurt toward the end of the game

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>as a numbers person.

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Look, I think in terms of his style, I think

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>he's one of, if not the most authentic coach that

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we have. I mean, I don't think there's any piece

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of him that doesn't act like from the moment he

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>wakes up till the moment he goes to bed, he

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 1>is biting kneecaps like I am sure of that. The

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.199
<v Speaker 1>players that I've spoken to, no, this is actually like

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>he's all emotion all the time. So I think that

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>authenticity like bleeds through. And I think the players really

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>responded to that. And I also think that it wasn't

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>so much necessarily like analytics calls or numbers calls. It

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was more about that was their identity. I mean the

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>number of plays. You know, you never want to like

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>tie them down, like how many plays in the playbook

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>are actually fourth down plays. But you know, I asked

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for a range, and that range that he told me

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was higher than most coaches have. So the reality is

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>is they just it wasn't necessarily like because they thought

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the probabilities were in their favor. It was more because

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they that's who they were. And I'm not mad about

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>any of those calls in the in the SF game.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think he called the like Jamior

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Gibbs fumble play just just a you know something called that.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably also don't think he called the like you know,

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Brandon I catch a ball that bounced off the defender's head.

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know, also probably not. I don't think Paul

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Shanahan called that, although if he could, that'd be pretty cool.

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But like, so I'm not so mad about it that.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>It's more some of the things I think time management

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>wise at the end of the game were a little

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>bit more problematic from the standpoint of runs or passes

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>on certain downs. That's actually it's a little ironic because

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that's like how Kyle Shanahan maybe exited Atlanta. But you know,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting it was just but again that's it's

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>more identity than analytics. So you can't really be mad

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>at it because they were outmatched. I mean, they were

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half I think seven and at least

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>seven or seven and a half point underdogs. It wasn't

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>like their fourteen point favorites and blew this massive lead,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>right so right, you know.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean spoiler alert, they won me a little bit

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>of money. So I didn't hate that. I just more

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 2>was uh, I was I was rooting for.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Them to win, but just a better story. I mean

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I like, you know, I'm biased one hundred percent and

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I like the Niners. It's like, no anti Niner sentiment.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just more like I've seen the Super Bowl. I

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was there in Miami, you know.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Like words, but yeah, yeah, well I wish I could

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>say I wasn't anti Niners.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>But I am.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm an unbiased journalist here just trying to figure out

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen in this game. Now, I want

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>to talk a little bit about you first, because I

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>think your your story is fascinating. As I just told

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>the listeners, you have eighty seven degrees in a variety

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>in a variety of topics, not including sports, significantly a

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Master of Science degree in predictive analysis from Northwestern. Now,

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you were a financial advisor. How did you start to

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>going to work for the NFL.

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>In business school? So when I started business school with

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>my finance background, I was, you know, like I'm banking

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing before business school, pretty normal stuff. I

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>old email the then CFO of the NFL. His name

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is Anthony Noto. He's now the CEO of SOFI after

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>going through like Goldman, NFL, Goldman, Twitter, whatever, Like he's

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the freaking man, and he was a linebacker at

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Army if that he has linebacker mentality?

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<v Speaker 3>If that correct?

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>He I called emailed him because I had read his

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>research reports and I really liked him. He was then

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the CFO of the NFL. So when I was kind

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>of trying to figure out my way, I was like,

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna do my summer internship like all

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, cocky NBA kids. You're like, I can go

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>back into advestment begging if I went to you. And

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>so I emailed him and was like, can I come

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>work at the NFL and that, and thus began my

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>journey with the NFL and a couple of the projects

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I worked on there from a finance standpoint were a

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>seventeen game season, two teams moving to LA. This was

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, so there was only there were

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>no and a failed joint venture between ESPN Classic and

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the NFL Network. It was wild times. I didn't know

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>who any of these people were, like yelling at each other,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I want Wisconsin football and then you know we can't

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>pay for it. Was incredible, incredible stuff.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow, So you worked on a seventeen game schedule?

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, back in two thousand and eight And the cool

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>part was I got to talk to the Competition committee

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>members who are like these, you know, Hall of Fame coaches,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like people who know more they've forgotten more about football

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>yesterday than the rest of us will ever know, and

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>asking them about fairness and how to keep parody, which

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>is really what everyone and including myself believes is the

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>true advantage of NFL football as opposed to any other

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>professional sport. And that was the dog.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And I thought it was your ahead.

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows he's here, he's like forty's here from here.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So and that was kind of where I started to

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>really be able to map together how like like analytics

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>or at that time, you know, a lot of Excel documents.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>If I learned how to code in better languages, I

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>could make better models, and those models, which were usually

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to inform revenue, they could be switched to inform performance

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because more competitive games for longer, more of an opportunity

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs, means more viewers, more viewers, more

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>people care, more money, round and round again.

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>So interesting.

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I read this Detroit Free Press article. This quote stood out.

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>This is from twenty eighteen. Oh god, no, but this

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 2>is because look, I am a part of Obviously, analytics

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>are important, right, and I mean the master of all

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>sports analytics would probably be the Oakland Athletics, right, I mean,

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>like in terms of small market, yet they make the playoffs.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 2>It may not win, but it make the playoffs. They're

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>using it. But this debate that sort of rages between

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>analytics and gut right in a way. In a way

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Shanan versus Dan Campbell, Now that's reductive. I understand

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 2>that because everybody's using it to some degree. But I

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>think that this quote from you helped me to sort

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>of understand and see analytics in a totally new way.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 2>You said, statistics is seeing that two defensive ends had

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the same number of secs, but analytics can measure who

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>is the better player of the two, and that often

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>has to do with what they're asked to do in

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the specific defenses that they're in and how well that

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>they do it. And so the idea is it's not

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>just numbers or knowing numbers, but I think through your

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>work as well, it's being an insider and talking to

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>other people, understanding what defenses, for example in that example,

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>are being run, and using all of that information together

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>to help be more predictive.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know is that I think it's to like

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>really know, you know, I use this analogy a lot.

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Is like we kind of have a sense of who's overpaid,

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we kind of have a sense of who's underpaid, but

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you kind of need to know what paid is to

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>be able to understand where that line actually is. At

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the extremes, everyone can figure it out. Everyone knows that

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there are good it's almost draft time. There are good

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coming up in this draft, and there are ones

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that maybe aren't quite as talented right now. However, when

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>an analytics point of view could tell you is who

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>has the better chance of being a better backup in

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 1>a specific system? Who has a better chance of you know,

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>there's so many different ways to sort of slice it

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that you can say, in my system, I'm looking for

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>these attributes. I can handle not having these right So

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>it's less about being reductive, I would you say, and

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>more about finding a way to say these are the

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>potential assets, this is how they could work, or these

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>are you know, the potential attributes, and this is how

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we could nurture that development. I'm never gonna dunk a basketball.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not tall enough to do that, however, I could

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>potentially learn to shoot three point three point shots better. Right, Like,

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>there is something that nature is absolutely already made a boundary,

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but there are other things that make me more or

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>less likely to be able to do.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Something that's fascinating.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>You write, you write your own code, so you're not

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>using other people's codes.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You're no, I don't trust anyone else. This is I

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>have like severe trust issues. No way, I don't use

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>anyone else's code. Stay away.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>What was what speaking of statistics, what was your record

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 2>against the spread this year?

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>So I just went through and asked my producer because

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>because I worked for the NFL and we're not allowed

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to get a do not track. You know, we're not

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>allowed to do anything on our own. But although we

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>pick every game with numbers, but don't ask me. I

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>don't make the rules, I just follow them. So he

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>told me that as of right now, I'm one seventy

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>six and one oh eight, so that's sixty one point nine.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Are you serious?

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>He just emailed it to me because I was like,

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And then see, we don't you like,

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>we have to pick every game.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>There's no way point you have to pick every game,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>some you don't want to pick, right, Well.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I will say this year though, someone that I haven't

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to pick have helped me out a lot. This

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>year is a little This year's a little whack, but

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, many years, it's uh not that same. Wow. Yeah,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I emailed him because I was like, I'm not this

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.959
<v Speaker 1>is not on me. One seventy We've had two hundred

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and eighty four games as of right now, one seventy

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:30.959
<v Speaker 1>six in one.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Way, Wow, that's very impressive.

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, now I'm going to be one seventy six and

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>one oh nine. I just feel it.

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Tell me a little bit about well, and we'll see

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>what happens with the news. Maybe you'll be going back

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>to work for ESPN. Why you worked after the league office?

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>You went and worked for ESPN for almost five years

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and then transitioned over to the NFL network. Why what

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 2>made you make that decision?

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was after business school. When I was done

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>with business school, I went to Disney out here in

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Angelus and I was working in like the strap planning,

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>like the scary part of it right where they were

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 1>like you, but we'll buy you Lucasfilms, or we'll make

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>some terrible acquisitions that I won't talk about in any

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>interview going for anyways, But we work on these things

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that were like larger financial models, not dissimilar to what

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I had been doing at the NFL. It was the

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>lockout year at the NFL, and I had had a

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>health issue, so I was not going to be able

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to get health insurance, which is why I made the

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>leap to Disney after doing that failed JV with That's

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that's how it all pieces together. So I came out here.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I started doing that. Then a role opened out in

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Bristol to me from Los Angeles to West Hartford, Connecticut.

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Good decisions, My life choices are really good. And to

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>work on the innovation team, which was like being able

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to use big data sort of like money before anyone

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>was calling it like they were like moneyballing things right,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like analytics. But also since I had actual tech background,

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to sort of monetize different elements of

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>this new analytics thing that was coming right. So the

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>day that Paul D. Podesta of Oakland A's fame got

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>hired by the Cleveland Browns, nobody at ESPN knew how

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. So for my very first time

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.720
<v Speaker 1>ever on TV was a six pm Sports center talking

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>about baseball and then football and what is quote unquote

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>moneyball for football?

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Me?

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And there we have it. Then we have a switch.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Then I had started doing it and they're like, why

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>don't you come on home to the NFL because I

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>still was very close with my NFL peeps, and I

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>came back to really, what I want to do is

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>help evolve this narrative around using data for storytelling. That's

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm going to say this is like really

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>splashy thing and you're going to be mad at it

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>or not, And it's more about, Okay, this is what

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing and this is why this is a trend

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that's following, or this is a trend that's breaking. So

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like helping the fan who's already very smart,

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more like, Okay, well, when you

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about like outside zone runs, why isn't that working

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this year? Or why does it look different? Why are

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>people running the a gap again right as opposed to

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>because there's always a pendulum the swings, and this is

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>this year. Actually, we saw the defenses be far more

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>impactful than we've seen in recent years so as that

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>pendulum swings, we get to see a little bit of

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>more of the macro narrative around it. As opposed to

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 1>being like I don't like this person.

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm much more the second. I'm much more of the second.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 2>But I'm I'm pick here.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You're entertaining a lot of people just yell into space

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>like that. Last week I got real, Matt, like I

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>was listening to some of these takes on Dan Campbell

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and people were yelling into space about stuff, and I'm like,

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think this is They're projecting something else,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Like this is like a therapy session for them. This

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't about Dan Campbell's decision. Like, I'm like, we've gone

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>well past that.

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'll be honest with you, I can't. I can't

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 2>listen to it. I can't do it. I just can't.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I just can't do it. And I don't need to

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 2>name any name. I could name a number of names.

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I just my limit is reached. I'm I don't know,

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel old, but it feels I feel like

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>crotchety and weirdly these most of these people are older

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 2>than I am, but they're just yell. Maybe that's it.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's like the angry old man syndrome.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I also don't I also don't love when people say

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>that the analytics say during a broadcast, see that's what

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to do next, I want to do in

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>in game. I've started trying to do it with pre

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>season with the Bills. And if you can do and

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>if you can get the internet to work real time

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>on code in Pimark Stadium, you can get it to

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>work anywhere because it's just not it's not a new stadium,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it's an older standing. So that's what I've been trying

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to do. So we can say, hey, the instant pressure rate, right, Bills,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you talk about defensive pressure. The Bills love like you

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about Bills, you talk about pressure on the defense,

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and so you be like, hey, right now they're tracking

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>at thirty five percent, which is way lower than they're

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>forty two percent that they usually do. Why, Okay, this

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening. Then you can have a better conversation

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>about it. So but I don't like it's always about

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>like fourth down decisions. The analytics say to go for it,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the analytics say not to go for it, and you're like, well,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the reality is is the model that they're using says

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in the past from this down distance and time on

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the clock remain remaining that this is what the outcome

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>has been. But they don't know if like the right

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>guard's been just getting smoked by Aaron Donald for the

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>past six possessions whatever. You know, they don't have that

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like nuanced part. So it is and look, we don't

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 1>have enough time on the broadcast to say, well, here's

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the nuances the right and all the times. But it

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is also a little frustrating as a person who I'm

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>never saying anything like I'm saying in fact, I'm useless whatever.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>But like you know, like the analytics are never like

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you do like no, there's like a robot code in

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the back of a coach. It's like must do it,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Like no, it's it's here's the decision that you need

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to make. And actually sometimes you have to make the

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>low probability decision like you just see.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>So you know there.

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I love that you're saying that, and I think that

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 2>there's another component as well. And you tell me as

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>a numbers person if I'm way off here. I know

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>people make too much out of momentum or energy. But there,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but but hold but hold, hold on one second. There's

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>this specific play that I always reference, which to me

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>is like the model of this and I believe that

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I was proved right because they shot a show around it,

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and when you watch the show, it makes you want

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to kill somebody. Green Bay Packers the two hail mary

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 2>game in Arizona in the playoffs, where literally with no

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>time left on the clock, Rogers throws a hail mary

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>to come within one point and they kicked the extra point. Now,

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 2>there was some question about whether or not he caught

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the ball or they went to replay. And during that season,

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>all or Nothing was on the Arizona Cardinals. So it

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 2>came out and NFL Films was in there documenting every moment.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And do you know what every single person on the

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Arizona sideline was doing after the play was made, before

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the point after attempt, they were looking at the scoreboard.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>They were looking at the score like, did was that

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>a did did that?

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Did that?

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Just?

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Really? Did Was that? Was that a cat? Did that? Really?

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Just?

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Was that?

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Like? They were defeated, it was over, you go for

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 3>two and you.

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Win the game, and whatever the quote unquote analytics say

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in that moment to me, you have you have to

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>define the time of the game, the circumstances around that

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 2>as well, not just if Aaron Donald was smoking the

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>right uh, the right tackle. But like where where we are,

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 2>we haven't never talking about well the analytics say, in

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the past, with no time left on a clock in

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 2>a playoff game where you've just had a hail Mary

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>three against you really and then of course you know

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay never got the ball.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Not that I'm still living back.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Then, but I was in the stadium that day, and

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I even at the moment I screamed and screamed, what

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:12.479
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? Anyway? All right?

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So wait, I'll give you an answer for that, okay,

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think the two things that get conflated are

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>momentum and psychology. There is a psychological factor when you

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>have a massive play like that, and if you have

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>another one in the arsenal where you have a stronger

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>belief in yourself. I am not a psychologist, but I

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>think those behavioral aspects are measurable. When people say the

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:41.479
<v Speaker 1>word momentum, that gets tricky because like I don't really

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>always know what they mean, right, Like in that case,

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean by it. But like like

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people be like, well, if I get up on

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>my couch and I watch from my bathroom through the

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>little window, I've done, you know, a butterfly wing flapped

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in Japan and whatever, like you know, like that that's

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not the same, right, Like I think have to be

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>careful with psychology, okay, like whatever we mean.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>By okay, So psychology you think is valid.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Moment psychology is valid. I'm not sure always. It's just

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like when the the word analytics has been bastardized. The

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:18.479
<v Speaker 1>word momentum also bastardized, right, like motion object is that whatever?

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Like we get it, but like sometimes they stop like

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's It's very tricky because I would argue sometimes

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.399
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well now it's special teams guys, and it's

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>not the same. People like, but the psychology I think

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>is real, I don't. But again, you're you're bastardizing the

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>word momentum if you just use it for everything. Yep,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they've got momentum swing up, momentum swing up, like it

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean anything anywhore. Just like the analytics say, I.

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Need to watch it, sounds like you and I are

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 3>the same.

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I need to watch the games with you, because I

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>spend as much time yelling at the announcers as I

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>do anybody else. And I think based on this conversation,

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I find we're we're on the same page.

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean some of them are. I will say

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are great or really like I'm like

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a I'm like a Greg Olsen fan times a million,

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I think he does a great job. So like

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he he doesn't get in his uh in his bag

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>with weird trick phrases, right right, No, an I Eagle.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I will go to the map for Iron Eagle. I

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>love Iron Eagle. He's also like the he's like super

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>fun to work with, so well.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>That makes that makes a difference too. But wait, I

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 2>do want to circle back on one thing. So you

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think based on whether I'm sitting or standing or

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 2>watching a game through the window at a bar or

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.399
<v Speaker 2>sitting down at a table in the bar, you don't

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>think that I have control over what's going on.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean you might. I guess it's possible, But I'm

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a probabilities girl. That is a low probability event.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>There was in the bathroom for that last throwing.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>The ball, and you're like just simply like moonlighting as

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 1>another person, but you're actually Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>in that moment. Then then we can talk about where

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you're watching it from actually matters, because you know arm

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>angles actual velocity.

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I was in the bathroom for that last offensive drive.

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I got to go back again. Call me, hey, knock

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 2>on the door when they've scored again.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, oh, my mother, my Italian mother. We went

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to my closest. My close friend in college is Matthias

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>q and Uka, who was a defensive end for the

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>New York Giants. We went to a game where he

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.439
<v Speaker 1>played in Detroit and he got hurt. As we were

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>walking out, she went in the bathroom, came back out,

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>threw her shirt away. Luckily she was wearing a jacket

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 1>over it. But she's like, it's all my fault, it's

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the shirt, and we're like, so, my mom caused an injury.

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would never think anything like that. I might

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>have looked for a hat that I wore the last

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>time a team played.

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I might wash the lion's sweatshirt. I didn't wash it all.

0:47:55.560 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 3>So it's fine, is that true? You know you can

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 3>watch it for next year? Yeah?

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, a couple of specifics before general you think that

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>you know the thing I mentioned before.

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know this is reductive.

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 2>It's almost embarrassing to say these things in front of you,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the two teams played four years ago.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a number of the same people involved. I think

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 2>the coaches both being involved again and having the same

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>experience of preparing for a Super Bowl for two weeks

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 2>against the other coach. I think that's significant. Many of

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the same players.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 3>But as I.

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Mentioned, seventeen players that haven't played in Super Bowl. I

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>know it's not the same as the one four years ago,

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but that's seventeen players that haven't That's crazy.

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. The lie if the Lions were playing

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>in it, what would it be like fifty.

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Seventh Jarry Goff has played in the Super Bowl? Like

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe three? Right, Oh, you're under would be said

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>at three players. I haven't seen the I haven't looked

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>at the roster and the Super Bowl. That's where I

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.959
<v Speaker 1>said it under two.

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you?

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But obviously there's Christian McCaffrey this time around. There's also

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>mister not irrelevant anymore, Rock Purty. But to me, a

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>significant difference is the Chiefs defense is no longer irrelevant.

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about this time around with the

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>vaunted forty nine er offense against this new look Chiefs defense,

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.439
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know where you had them, that would

0:49:55.480 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>be interesting. I couldn't find a list where the chief

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>We're not in the top five, and most of them

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>had them number two this year.

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think they're probably three ish two

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for me as well. It's hard. I'll have to go

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>back and look, but top five for sure, absolutely, top

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 1>four for sure. The interesting part in this game will

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>be the yards after the catch for the Niners, because Niners,

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what they do. Past two seasons, they've led in

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.879
<v Speaker 1>that metric on a per reception basis, six point seven

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 1>yards per reception that is a lot. Two point one

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of those are yards after the catch over expected. So

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that is a stat that I like because it kind

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>of makes you like like it's like a war sort

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of metric. For it's better when it's for position groups

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like yards after the catch over expected. It's not quite

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 1>as amazing on an individual player basis because whatever, but

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>as a blended group it's actually pretty instructive. So there,

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean six point sevens a ton and the Chiefs

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 1>defense they are so best at limiting such yards, so

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>they're really good tacklers. They're understanding where they're supposed to be.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>They're strategic with they're blitzing. Sure they do it at

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a top six rate in the league, but it's strategic

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>so they're not getting a blitz and then just not

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>getting home right like they're blitzing in times either you know,

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a predictable passing down or something where they get a pressure.

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>For example, in this game, I would look at the

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 1>right side of the offensive line for the forty nine ers.

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we saw Aiden Hutchinson from the Lions lineup

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>against there and then you know, George Kittle like smoked

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>him a couple of times. But it's still like that's

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the side of the line that they're gonna need to

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:43.280
<v Speaker 1>account for. But it's really their their ability to, especially

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>at the intermediate level, just kind of find that area

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>right in between where those rushers go and where the

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, the safeties are in the back because the

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>corners are very good and both Lagarious Snead and Trent

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.399
<v Speaker 1>McDuffie in the red area get even better. So don't

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>get the compressed field they need to rely on yak.

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>They that's that will be the to me, that's the

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>one thing if the Niners win, it's because they've got

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of yak That's why.

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I love that yacks after catch.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny, you, I mean, it's not funny at all.

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I use that. That was just

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 2>like me trying to think of a word to say.

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But like McCaffrey, Debo, even Kittle, Yeah, you you when

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 2>you see their plays or when you when you think

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 2>about them, it's just like they just make people miss.

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 2>They just make people one to twelve. There's only eleven

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 2>players on defense. But you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 2>usually that's that is That's very interesting.

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Rock.

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He has well, Certainly the second half of the Detroit game,

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 2>he put on a pretty impressive performance. Doesn't a peer, however,

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to be dominating start to finish as he was during

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the regular season.

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 3>You think he's going to be tight. What does the

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 3>numbers say about that?

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be a tighter game. I think.

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can tell you who I have winning.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've done all my I've done my homework,

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 1>correct you have I yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean obviously,

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>if there is some weird injury that you know, if

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>something really strange happens, this would all potentially change. But

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>despite Brock and these two things can be true at

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the same time. I think Rock Curdy is a is

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback, and I think he's a long term

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<v Speaker 1>great solution. My it doesn't necessarily mean that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that Kansas City's offense is going to dominate San

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Francisco's offense. And that's more where I fall. I think

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully and I do have a pretty healthy scoring game,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that the chiefs. To me, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be hard to outwit the chief in this

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 1>chess game, especially since and I would say this to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Shannon if he was sitting right here. Sometimes at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of games, look what happens if he's trailing

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<v Speaker 1>in fourth quarters. It's not a pretty number. And sometimes

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in the end of game like he's like, let's run,

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<v Speaker 1>and You're like, no, it's a past, Like you know,

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:21.799
<v Speaker 1>he just the strategy doesn't work, and it's not And

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<v Speaker 1>this has honestly, it's nothing to do with Brock Purty.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:25.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not because I think Brock Purty is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and like not and throw what did

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you throw against the Ravens like feign or so No

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<v Speaker 1>that that ain't it. It's just more I think Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes in this situation, and more Isaiah Pacheco, because I

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's where they're going to get those burst yards.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Go watch what happened on first down with the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>game or with your guy Aaron Jones in the Packers

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>game the week before. It's those first downs, on first

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.479
<v Speaker 1>downs where you can really the Niners can get got.

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 1>They can get got on those And as unsexy as

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds, that to me is a far more instructive

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>way to live than to say, hey, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>rely on not confusing brock Purdy for four quarters because,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Steve Spagnola is expert at that. By

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:06.919
<v Speaker 1>the way, did you know the fifteenth anniversary that David

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Tyree head thing where Steve Spagnola was a defensive cordator.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just thought that the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, it's been that's crazy. Bags is

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a coordator in that Super Bowl, too insane. He'd beat

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, who was undefeated that year, So you got

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<v Speaker 1>to give Spags a little bit of credit right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you got the Chiefs winning a close one.

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<v Speaker 1>A I do, I do? Which is the under you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're not favored?

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Me too, Me too? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that that's either that's either winning twinning or we're

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<v Speaker 2>both going to be wrong, I mean, one way or

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the other, or at least on the same team. Well,

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I am hoping for a big game from my fellow

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 2>s m U Mustangs hailed to the red and the

0:55:56.080 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 2>blue of the Mustangs of SMU. Rushi Rice having a

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 2>really nice little postseason. I'm hoping it continues.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to give you my low key.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Rassi Rice, but I think my low key

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<v Speaker 1>like if you want to think about I mean to

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>use the word alternate m vps, perhaps not quarterbacks or

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey, because those two would those three would seem

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the most obvious. I think I think there could be

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a world where Isaiah Patchecko happens to run rough shot,

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and not that I don't. I don't think it's super likely,

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's I think there's value there because

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>because look, if you're gonna say, I believe the Chiefs win,

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and part of the way the Chiefs win is to

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>keep the ball out. You got to keep the ball

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on the side. We both think there's going to be

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of points scored. Okay, so then what

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>what do you What do you do? If you're Andy Reid?

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Strategically you run the football or you use the short

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>passes that we've seen. And that's where because you're not

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>going to pass into Fred Warren or Drake green Law,

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>this is not gonna happen. But you can on outside

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>zone runs, which is hilariously like Kyle Shanahan's special outside

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>zone runs. That's how they can make them like not

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>very happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We will we will see you in Las Vegas very

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<v Speaker 2>very soon. Thank you so much for your insight. I

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 2>just put a million dollars on Pacheco to win the MVP.

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 2>The odds were incredible. I hope that was smart. If not, again,

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 2>it's your fault.

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's totally my fault. And if you win,

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you pay off my student loans.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, if I were to make that bet, I would

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 2>pay I would pay off your student loan even though

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 2>after today I know that you have eighty seven degrees,

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I would still pay all.

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Pay for two of them. So I got one.

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<v Speaker 2>Gun, Cynthia. Thank you so much. I will see you

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<v Speaker 2>in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>See you very soon, safe travel, stay out of this.

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Rat you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Cynthia for joining me. I will see you

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. We're gonna well, we're gonna have an interesting week,

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to say the least, and everybody you heard it here

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<v Speaker 2>First the Chiefs in a high scoring, close game over

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<v Speaker 2>the forty nine Ers.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, we're both right or we're both wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Listeners, thank you so much for indulging me with storytime

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<v Speaker 2>with Brian today, and enjoy the game. Good luck in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way you choose to watch, and I will see

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<v Speaker 2>you next week for another Well, it's gonna be an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing episode. Off the Beat is hosted and executive produced

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<v Speaker 2>by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Ling Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes,

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan

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