1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his drink Cha's motherfucking podcast. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's greed is your boy 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: in o R. He's a Miami hip hop and mioneer. 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Up is d j e f N. Together they drink 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: it up with some of the biggest players in the 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one source for 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: drunk fast drinks. Mother is New Year's time for Drink Champs. 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Drink Up, motherfuck Mother? Would it good? Be? Hopully? Wouldn't be? 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: This is your boy? What up? Is d j e 11 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: FN And it's monitament crazy Wall Drink Champs? Yeah, Yo, 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: mix up now? This is This is one of my 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: closest friends. I can said to him a brother. I 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: consider him family. But I didn't wanna um make him 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: any different than any other guests. I wanted to go 16 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and study him. And when I basically listened to every 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: one of his albums, I believe since coming up to 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: this moment, it feels like it was a big I 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: told you so for like he trald Us in two thousands, 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: that our lives would change and then and all lives 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: to be changed in two thousands. But when you listen 22 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: to him, it's like he's been preaching us anarchy and 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: been preaching us that about twenty years ago, and it's 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: like we're just now catching up. This man is an innovator. 25 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: This man is running a conglomerate records. He is holding 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: down his artists. Every week they dropping a goddamn video 27 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: or goddamn project, goddamn something. See on the FU the 28 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: only man who could go see fives car Town. He 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: will bust your ass on the record and then bust 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: your ass on stage what the same record he did 31 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: with you. He has been lasting out here in through 32 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: different decades that have been relevant. People can be lasting 33 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: through uh these these these these times and periods of 34 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: hip hop, But can they be relevant? Can they still 35 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: have them great looking videos? Can they still be looking great? 36 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: He's back in the best shape of his life. And 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: in case you don't know who we're talking about, I 38 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: telling about my good friend Bucks. Now that fucking shows 39 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that happened again, this is your life. But I'm not 40 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I really we really speak together at least 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: once a week, you know. But like I said, and 42 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: in the intro. I didn't want it to be like 43 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: no difference. I really went looked at your albums and 44 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I actually listened to them, like I mean album album 45 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: and it really did feel like you predicted, Like I 46 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: just feel like you knew this year was gonna come. 47 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: What have you been reading? I just feel like that. 48 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: But it's like it's like it's like you really predicted 49 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: that life was going to change for us. I didn't 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: really predict nothing. I don't. I don't want to say 51 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: that I was prophesizing some ship. What I will say though, 52 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: is um hm, the same information that I was that 53 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I became a fanatic about everybody was accessible to the ship. 54 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: It was just I was just fascinated by this ship 55 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: that I was stumbling on, and I was fascinated by 56 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the what if of this ship I was stumbling on. 57 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: So even if the ship never came to fruition, the 58 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: fact that there was these these these ideas and these 59 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: plans and these things set up to actually carry out 60 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: and somebody took the time to create these ideas and 61 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: these plans and they just were waiting to be executed, 62 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 1: that ship funcked with me alone. Because I just always 63 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: said to myself as fucked up as this information was 64 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: looking and sounding when you read it to yourself or 65 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: when you see some kind of video about the ship. 66 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: If any of this ship was to happen there in 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: our lifetime, we're in't some serious ship. And I just 68 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: thought that that alone was just a super intriguing ship 69 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: to me. So I fussed with it because you know, 70 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: all of that ship was the seed of all of 71 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: that was planted by being blessed with notledge yourself. Thank you, 72 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you already know how I go. God, you you got 73 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: knowledge yourself. You know what I'm saying. And you know, 74 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: we come up in a time where I want you 75 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: to choose with Champagne I drink which one do you 76 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: think I hear? I got to dick the Rosehucker. I 77 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: didn't even thought continue you. You know that we come 78 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: from a time when it was actually super cool and 79 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: super important to be smart Neggert. No this ever some 80 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: other ship. But but you know, we come from a 81 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: time where you know, Zulu nation was strong, and the 82 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: fire present nation of the gods and earths was strong, 83 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: and and you know that's why in hip hop they 84 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: had brand Nuby and and they had ex clan and 85 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: poor righteous teachers and just sit slock kim shabad, caress 86 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: public enemy. Goody mob, goody mob came after that, so 87 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: so so so it's like, you know, back then it 88 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: was important and it was cool to be smart, you 89 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it was also accountability if 90 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: you aligned yourself with any one of these brotherhoods and 91 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: you didn't actually live up to the responsibility and obligation 92 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: to upholy integrity of these brotherhoods. If you said you 93 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: was five percent and God's actually what degrees you dealing 94 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: with and you ain't going your degrees, you like got 95 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: your gass bust in the street. And that came with 96 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: a certain code of ethics like we you know that. 97 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: We also came from a time during these times where 98 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: you're in the corner with your homies and y'all seller 99 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: we um and and say noormy mom's got off the 100 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: bus and we all lived on the same block. We 101 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: see normy moms or my mom's or your mom's carry 102 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: we carry her shopping bag when she got off the bus. 103 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: And if niggas was on the corner and we sell 104 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: a weed or we were smoking weed or cigarette, you 105 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: ain't put your weed or your cigarette out. The niggas 106 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: that went to go carry moms shipped to the crib. 107 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: We come back. We was actually gonna get bust your 108 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: ass because it just looked like he wasn't exemplifying the 109 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: proper level of respect, which was a code that we 110 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: lived by back then. So everything was based on accountability 111 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and proper Cola ethics and having respect and having managed 112 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: even though you were still a street nigger. You know 113 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You bust your gun. You might have 114 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: went to jail, you might have sold drugs, but the 115 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: parents on that block knew that you had enough integrity 116 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: and respect to still uphold the integrity and respect of 117 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: the block. You were. You protected the block. You ain't 118 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the slackness happened on the block recklessly. So that's the 119 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: ship we come from. So that was the seed of 120 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: what created all of this desire to want to research 121 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: the information. So when I stumbled on ship like that, 122 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: I was just blooming away because I wanted to be 123 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: able to add on to the knowledge that I had 124 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: when I was building with the guards and would be 125 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: like yo, it was almost like when you get the 126 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: new pair sneakers the the the the gift of discovery. Right. 127 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: It's like when you find a new artist that's popping. 128 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: The niggas got some ship that's scorching, but you introduced 129 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: niggas to it before everybody started dick routing it. Right. 130 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: It's the same thing with knowledge yourself. You wanted to 131 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: show the guards that you stumbled on something that you 132 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: was introducing to them, even if they was the PhDs 133 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: and the scholars of the neighborhood. So that's what it 134 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: was for me. One thing led to the next. I 135 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: break up with leaders at the New School, which we're 136 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna get into the Yeah, that happened on MTV. Yeah 137 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: with Fab five Freddie. But Dallas Austin had us come 138 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: down to Atlanta and at the time he had a 139 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: studio called Dark Studio. He was eighteen years old. Since 140 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: you're talked about Das, yeah, yeah, he introduced a lot 141 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: of us to the executive perspective because as an eighteen 142 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: year old, you know, Dallas had this money. He was 143 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the poster child of producers as a young producer with 144 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Clive Davis was a lot of business too. I mean, 145 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I am not at liberty to discuss anything of that. Dynamic. 146 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, Dallas was a young fly matherfucker, and he 147 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: was getting to the bag and he was putting the 148 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: most disrespectful numbers on the schoolboard as a producer. Between 149 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: TLC and another bad creation and boys demanding his his 150 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: money was different. And when we's down there going through 151 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: our transition, you know, George Clinton was sucking with him 152 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: a lot. So George, George Clinton gave me this book 153 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: called Behold the Pale Horse Smell, written by William Jake's. 154 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: I got several copies of that booking. I got the 155 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: George Clinton copy. For sure, that ship has got a 156 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: little wear and tear on it, but I'm never gonna 157 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: get rid of. That's like the greatest gift because that 158 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: book gave birth to the mentality that Buster Rhymes went 159 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: into for the rest of his solo career. I gave 160 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: that book to Goody Mob. That's what turned Goody mab 161 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: into you. No no, no, no, no, um yeah, yeah, 162 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: who's that looking at him my window? Yeah you do? 163 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: But but but but long story short, that that man, 164 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: George Clinton, created this movement amongst us with this book 165 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: that sent us all on these different journeys, but still 166 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: dealing with the same level of high science. So that's 167 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: that's that's what led to the coming and when disaster 168 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: strikes an extinction level event anarchy and genesis, it ain't 169 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: safe no more on the Big Bang and all of 170 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: that ship. So that's that's how that kick. Did you 171 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: know you were gonna create like keep that legacy or 172 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: that like like a trilogy of of this theme and 173 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: keep going. We're not a trilogy, but but but like 174 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: a book of Eli with different chapters in it that 175 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: all connected to create this Book of Eli, which was 176 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: like a Bible. But see the foundation even before the 177 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: George Clinton information came from Public Enemy, which is who 178 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: I got it from, because they made all of these 179 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: concept albums like and he bust the Rhymes and named 180 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the group leaders at the New School. But he, you know, 181 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: shocked when they created the albums like the Yo Bum, 182 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Rushed the Show album that wasn't even like the Fucking 183 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: It Takes the Nation of Millions, the Holders Back album, 184 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: that album and Fear of a Black Planet. Them albums 185 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: is what I modeled all of my entire solo catalog on, 186 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Like those were like the the templates that I followed 187 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: the script of to do the ships that I was doing, 188 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: and then the information and I was stumbling on. I 189 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: would just incorporate in the albums that I felt at 190 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: the time. That information reflected what was going on at 191 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: that time the most, you know what I'm saying. And 192 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: because that information is infinite, I could go forever talking 193 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: about this type of ship. Because I put out and 194 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: ninety six to come and came outland right. We dropped 195 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: everything with mains raw ninety six and I'm getting information 196 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: that's saying some ship is gonna change forever. Five years 197 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: later as far as the world is concerned, as we 198 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: knew it. Two thousand and one ninety six is when 199 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the World Trade happened on the World Trade, didn't you 200 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: huh you had an apartment by the World Trade. Yeah, 201 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: I was in Tribeca happened. I wasn't dead when the 202 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: ship came down. I was dead when the second plane 203 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: hit and DJ Scratch woke me up and told me 204 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: get the funk about it there. So I'm right by 205 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bridge. So I just dipped on that ship 206 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: and just skated out the Long Island and I went 207 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: to my house a Long Island and sort of ship 208 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: on the news with Will from Unique Auto Sport Will Castro. 209 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: But But but the point that I'm trying to make 210 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: is on the third solo album, the album cover was 211 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: what happened in the Wall Trade Wall Street. You look 212 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: at that cover, you see the whole Wall Street in flames, 213 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: you see South Street support, You'll see the Brooklyn Bridge 214 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: in the Manhattan Bridge, and everything is on fire. This 215 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: just three years before it happened. Again, I'm not prophetizing ship. 216 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the information that I'm getting, because, 217 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: believe it or not, this information was out there and 218 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: they was telling niggers the best way to hide some 219 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: ship is about putting it in your face. But you 220 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: know how they got his condition already. When you tap 221 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: into some type of truth, they want to discredit the 222 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: truth by calling it conspiracy theory so that you don't 223 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: realize that you're actually on something. You know what I'm saying. So, 224 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: as I was seeing the ship that I was talking about, 225 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: as time passed and when they transpired that confirmations was 226 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: real to this information that I was talking about, it 227 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: changed whatepps to what the fuck? And I like, all 228 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: I gotta start telling niggas about all of this ship 229 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: in a very different kind of way, because this ship 230 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: is some of this ship is happening for real, you 231 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. How do you do that without 232 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: like becoming preachy? Because I guess you know that's really 233 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: really what information like. You know, when you can present information, 234 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not what you present is how you presented. 235 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You came across where you 236 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: was giving information, intelligent information, but you never came across 237 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: like you was being preaching. How do you balance that? 238 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: First things, First, I don't think no nigga like to 239 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: be preached to, you know what I'm saying. Secondly, you know, 240 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: for those who got kids in in and remember when 241 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: you was a kid, we ain't really liked medicine unless 242 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: we like how to medicine taste. So the medicine sometimes 243 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: when your mom's had to give it to you, they 244 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: had to mix that ship up with something that tastes 245 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: good in order for you to take the medicine. Right, 246 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: So when you give them motherfucker science, you gotta spoon 247 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: feed them some ship. They're don't like the taste stuff, 248 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: which is why all of my singles was feel good 249 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: energy ship and turn up party ship. And the albums 250 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: were always made with a balance of science and and 251 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: just hot ship. You gotta lowering thing is in with 252 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the hot ship. And once you get them lowered in, 253 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: that's when you can start busting the ass with the 254 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: science and the information because now you got them. You 255 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: didn't give them some ship that they wanted from you, 256 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's that was always 257 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: the approach, like, hey, on the bait, like when you 258 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: go fishing at the fish, bite on the worm, and 259 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: then really assen and that's it once you got them, 260 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: really men, you know what I'm saying. So that was 261 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the whole mentality always when I try to make these albums, 262 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: it's just finding the right balance. So um about bouncing around, 263 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: bouncing around. We just had James Cruise um on drink 264 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Chance and we also had Eric Nixon Drinks and it 265 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of uh reunited the legacy of chrisality obviously right 266 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: and a violator. So before we get to the christality 267 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: part of it, I wanted because although we because that 268 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: was the reason why we were violated, violated, it is 269 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: his own entity on its own as well. So you 270 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: being in the beginning of Violator. I think he was 271 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the first artist right act. It was it was Leaders, 272 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: it was Trialed, it was Jungle Brothers, and it was Daylight. Yeah, 273 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: because we was all being represented by Chris as a 274 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: management rep under Rush management. So when Leo and Russian 275 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Simmons had Russian manage meant on Elizabeth Street down in 276 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: uh kind of town you know it was. It was 277 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: like Lower east Side, near Lower east Side, Manhattan and 278 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: Alphabet City side. Um Leo made an announcement one day 279 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: that they were shutting down Rush. So Leo told all 280 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: of the management reps that were supervising, whatever groups they 281 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: were supervising, you could take whoever y'all want and do 282 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: what y'all want with them. So Chris said, I I'm 283 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna take Tribe, Daylight, Leaders and Jungle Brothers because they 284 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: already had the Native tongueship moving and we wasn't officially 285 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: a native tongue, but we were like distant family members 286 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: of native tongue. And Chris ran with that and started Violator. 287 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: But then Tribe left and Daylight left and Jungle Brothers 288 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: left and Leaders broke up. But all I knew it 289 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: was Chris, so I wasn't going no motherfucking where I 290 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: stayed with Chris. I did the solo album, The Coming, 291 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: and the Wuha single went platinum in four weeks, and 292 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: then the album went platinum, and like so so the 293 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: success that came from that ship attracted everything else that 294 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: ended up coming to Violator. So then you know the 295 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: MISSI came and nas and LLL and uh mom mom 296 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: deep how rock Nation feels right now because of what 297 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Violator has laid out I can't, I can't. I can 298 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: remember at a time, but where I didn't know how 299 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: to hang out outside the hood, I really did, and 300 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: the only place I could feel comfortable was like Violated. 301 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: When it was in the depth jam building, I can 302 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: get a hit, cuts and weed and give the motherfucking 303 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: beat at the same time, all the same fucking building 304 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: like that it was. I mean, Leo Cons would come 305 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: in and smoke a blunt with you. It was like 306 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: it was nothing. But when you talking about Violator was 307 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: on very Street derect. That's my favorite, right, right, I say, 308 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: tell King, I always called it. I mean that mother 309 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: might have been my favorite place to be because I 310 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: literally can can conduct the whole album from there, Like 311 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: if I want to mention, man, I just gotta killed 312 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: it for one, like a couple of hours. Christ doesn't 313 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna walk through a race car. It was just really 314 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: a vibe. I always wanted to make a Entourage type 315 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Uh what is that? Cause? Dr drama about that? Violet? 316 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Is that crazy? That's incredible? You should actually do that. 317 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really gonna try to want to hit no nigga, 318 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: let's do so. But and I'm, like I said, I'm 319 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: bouncing around one of the most What was you gonna 320 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: say about James Cruise? I was gonna say, because I'm 321 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: getting mixed reviews, right, James versus I? I M, you know, 322 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: even they right, let's just let's let's let's just the elephant. 323 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: And I forget how that phrase got in the room. 324 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: More is the elephant in the room. More addressed the elephant. 325 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: Let's address that motherfucker. Right. So Freddie says James never 326 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: banished him, and a whole bunch of other things, and 327 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: he even brings about ninety seven. The craziest thing is 328 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: James did that to me, and how ninty seven as well. 329 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I was a part of that. But there was mixed 330 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: reviews when people uh. View of the James Cruise thing. 331 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: For the most part, to tell you the truth, it 332 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: was seventy percent positive. But the dirty percent that was 333 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: negative or thirty percent that did it was people who 334 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: was valid people and there was people of stories that 335 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know. What did you personally feel when you 336 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: found out that I had James Cruise on drink chaps 337 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: and representing violator and what dot? What would I feel 338 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: about what something he said or just having him all? 339 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: I felt that that was legitimate. That's a fact, you know. 340 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: I got James was a violator, brother. Nobody can't discredit that. 341 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: That's undisputed truth. As far as his relationship dynamic with 342 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: certain individuals, just but so much in depth that I 343 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: could go about that because I don't really know what 344 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: everybody's business was. As far as the intricacies with James Cruise. 345 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, um um. From the outside 346 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: looking in, it's close to the situations that I was. 347 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: It looked like James Cruise was involved with certain things 348 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: concerning fifty business. But I know that from a confirmation level. 349 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: When you say violated was managing fifty, I can't speak 350 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: nothing for nothing outside of Chris Lighty. That's for people 351 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: who don't know. We we have our beating with Chris. 352 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Like Christide, he can't be there for twenty four hours, 353 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: so he does a sign certain pole doesn't sign. My 354 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: person that was assigned to me was Claudine Joseph. You 355 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, who was the person that the 356 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Scott was assigned to me? Your big Dog side bus 357 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: only I was playing you know that's like you Missy 358 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: had motives that was like that was Chris, That was 359 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: actually Chris Chris. So I just I really want to 360 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: like you know, it was like I said, having James 361 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Cruise was mixed feelers, not mixed unders from me, but 362 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: James park took and busting rhymes business as well. Know 363 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm not gonna sit here not 364 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge James cruise involvement in my business as well. You know, 365 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Eric Knicks was very much involved in my business as well. 366 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: Eric Knicks was running around chasing DMX to get versus 367 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: for me on the Anarchy album, and you know he 368 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: helped me get you know, to jay Z vers done 369 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: on the Anarchy album. And you know every mixing Cruise 370 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: played significant roles in my valiated story. I can't flund 371 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: on neither one of them. Father. The story has to 372 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: be told. It has to be told now. You Big 373 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: and Jay went to the same high school. Me, Big 374 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: and j went to the same high school. Me specialist 375 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: and Chip Fu from fush Nikin went to the same 376 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: anig hip hop high school. Two different high schools. Me so, Me, Me, 377 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: J and Big went to George Westinghouse Technical and Vocational 378 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: High School. That was very smart. That's what the boys 379 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: came from. Um Me specialised and Chip Food from fush 380 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Nikins went to Tilden High School. They might have set 381 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: to me there you got it till to the sounds 382 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: like a we We went to Till then then we 383 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: went to Western House and them experiences was golden, man, 384 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was. It was you know, 385 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: I think this is the only grap Broutley. You said 386 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: you lost. Yeah, but I didn't told that story a 387 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: trillion times. Not. Let you want to be believing like that. 388 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Be doing over there, wow, sucking up over there, um 389 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: so uh in in In in Western House, Me and 390 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Jay battled the speedbrap ship because he was up. He 391 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: was killing it. Already with the Originators, and he was 392 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: killing it with Jazz already, so I was kind of 393 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: just getting my feet wet with the speed Rap ship 394 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: and he definitely got the edge on me in that 395 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: particular battle in the lunch room at Western House. Um. 396 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: But that that that, that's kind of what inspired me 397 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: to become so dangerous with the speed Rap because I 398 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: always was looking forward to my rematch day and I 399 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: never got that. But it's cool now because the speed 400 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Rap you have to have perfect like control, not just 401 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: breath control. You just gotta not to relax, you know, 402 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: you you that's your slogan. Nig I can't. It's like 403 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: with me and Spliff, right, get a snaked jack for 404 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: the one. What's good with you? But he can't see you, 405 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: but he sees you. But like I was saying, with 406 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: me and Slim, y'all might see us losing it like 407 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: when we do scenario and all of that or can 408 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: do from you, you know, like how way back your 409 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: ear friend, how you deal with this crazy drinking souse. 410 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: You're my friend, but you to deal it's quite always 411 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: crazy for me because you're my friend, but you're one 412 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: of my favorite artists now you're talking my favorite artists. 413 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I've been on the phone with You'll be like, 414 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: I'll be like all the damn stuff. Listen, listen, Yeah 415 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: about talking tell her story. We talk about telling you. 416 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm about telling my story about about how norm 417 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: we ended up on Violet that kill whose seconds I 418 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: was on my super fan ship about Norri. But I'm 419 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna get back to that. The point that I was 420 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: trying to make though, when they come of the speed 421 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Wrap ship, the ability to articulate and speak clearly, it's 422 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: better off when you calm down. You know what? I 423 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: noticed that about you because because I got you make 424 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: scratch turn the music down so I ain't gonna raise 425 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: my voice, and you come back up and I could 426 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: get the fucking articulation off properly. So I'll stand in 427 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: one spot and I JUSTII and Split World come over 428 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: and he'll do all of this ship and Split will 429 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: become the animation while I'm just on my second. That's 430 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. It's just it's that signs and 431 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: then so so it's it's a complete opposite of the 432 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: spats out because the spats out now becomes me getting 433 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: the ship off clearly and letting all of the antics 434 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: and the animation be between what I'm doing lyrically and Spliff, 435 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: like you said, orchestra conducting the ship with his fingers 436 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: against my mouth and whatever ship he's gonna do around me. 437 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: I let Spliff control of animation around me at that point. 438 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: So it's it's, it's it's it's that kind of understanding 439 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: as far as chemistry that makes when me and Spliff 440 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: come together unfunk withable, you know what I'm saying, Because 441 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: like Spliff, he knows when to do it, and he'll 442 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: do He'll just just we don't practice though, Like we'll 443 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: just figure out what the sequence of songs is gonna be, 444 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and the moments will happen where we'll stop, pause, do 445 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: some ship blackout, and pause based on the song arrangement 446 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: that we know the song already got. So that's why 447 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: I looked like we're be in sync all the time. 448 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: When a drop runner beat, what happened here and we'll 449 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: together it's like each other. It just happened to the 450 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Moment's hard to believe us just looks very rehearsed. Now 451 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: we don't have a never practice. We we just learned 452 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: the songs. That's the practice. We asked your question for us, 453 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: how many times have you ribbed at the show? And 454 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the promoter said, your buss. We had the movie because 455 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: no one wants to go before after you. That was 456 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: regular all the time. No one wants to go after us. 457 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: That's regular basis. Brother, No, no one wants to go 458 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: after That's a regular thing. Brother. Oh, that's a fact 459 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: that nobody who said I can't go out to bust 460 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: the bronc you was shot. He was shocked about. I 461 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: was one of the ones. I ain't gonna after that. 462 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: I get to the show early on purpose. Listen, that 463 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: ain't the way. That's okay, and nor we and no, 464 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: we've got some of the biggest motherfuckers like Nigga can't come. 465 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: You're a different type of I'm gonna be honest. You 466 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: like you like like there's certain people that you go 467 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: to the gym with them, you don't never want to 468 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: go back. That's like you want to say exactly what 469 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: you want to say. I know you've heard a lot 470 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: of people feelings like Snoop Snoop. Snoop comfortably says it 471 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: on the record. Snoop says it all the time, and 472 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I love Snoop and I ain't gonna lie. We know 473 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do the verses together. That's what it 474 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: was visually set up, you and Snoop. He just took 475 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: it somewhere else before I get even finished answering the 476 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: damn yes, he was supposed to me, and Stoop was 477 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: supposed to do the verses before him and DMX did it, 478 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: and I just we couldn't work it out to be 479 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: in the same space. You know what I'm saying, I'm 480 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: not really with the I'm not with complying without questioning things. 481 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was You know again, 482 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: it comes back to having knowledge itself. We know take 483 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: nothing on face value. We need to be showing improve 484 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna just tell me Larry Jackson out 485 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: there cutting somebody and checks some way. We don't know who. 486 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, Big up Larry jack sits out 487 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: in Big up Swiss and Temple and they created that 488 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: whole situation and maybe dream chance a little bit. We 489 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: got a little credit. We did kind of credit up. 490 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: We gassed up, just gassed it. Don't want to shot. 491 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: I want a shot shot, but put me on although 492 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: we gassed it up well Jess Blaze and Swiss, that's 493 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: where they regnited kind of, I'm about to say, because 494 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: the Temple and Swiss ship was before the Judge Blaze 495 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, when we just got reunited plaid on and 496 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: then that's when they saw the going on the game. 497 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: But you know, we re bought a hip hop man. 498 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I was at that Judge Blaze ship. 499 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: If y'all had everything to do with that motherfucker, that 500 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: was a different type of historical moment. It was a 501 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. It was My face didn't get bent up 502 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: that much in the situation consecutively on that level and 503 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: a long fucking time, very crazy situation that day. Big 504 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: up to Judge Blaze too. You never fell out of 505 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: hip hop. I fell in love for hip hop. If 506 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I ever fell out of love with hip like at 507 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: one point, like you know, you ever like, man fun 508 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: with this ship. Never, I ain't gonna lie. I could 509 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: one minute that never felt that I should almost sound 510 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: weird like fall out of love with hip hop for real? 511 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: They think about it, though, I almost feel like because 512 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone goes to the like, you know, 513 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: even for real like um at one point, I wouldn't 514 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: hit for a real like after he became very very successful, 515 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: and he would he would taste it like this to me, 516 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: like I'm not doing hip hop for two weeks. I'm like, 517 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: what na that to me too? But I'm gonna join 518 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: my brothers. But I think it's used me some minds. 519 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: But but you understand what I'm saying, bus like nah, 520 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: and then and then I'm not gonna lie. I went. 521 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: I used to be so mad at forever when he 522 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: would getting on that thing. I went through that. Nigga, 523 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: we just doing. We just both in that same place 524 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: with remember matter of fact, super huge, big up to 525 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Farrell figure. Motherfucker's a genius and he is in a 526 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 1: position where he can afford to feel like that because 527 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Pharrell ain't just hip hop. Farrell's music yea motherfucker. I 528 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: think I don't know, but but for real, it's all 529 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: the way hip hop. Let's not get done of. But 530 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: his range is so crazy that he'll make some He'll 531 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, he he threw a movie twice in mind 532 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: we're fucking Hans Zimmer for the millions, be like, you 533 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Forrell ship. He's he about 534 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: for real, Like when you saying I am early, he's 535 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: really other you know what I'm saying. But he's still 536 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: hip hop. So I just want to clarify that. But 537 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: my point is, like I didn't I didn't know what 538 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: he was saying at the time of Junior shot took 539 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: right here. I didn't know what he was saying time 540 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: until like I got a chance to spend time away 541 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: and like you know, do certain things in hip hop, 542 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: and I kind of did at one moment fell out 543 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: of love with it. By the way, you know, Fat 544 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: Joe and me spoke today on the phone about you. 545 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing wrong, No, you didn got the 546 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: teacher come friends, I think it's just call me hold 547 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: on salutlett to let me. Let me just take your 548 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: godfather Joe crack salute. Motherfucker makes some noise for the doms. 549 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know what our show is about. 550 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: It is a violated too, But our show is about 551 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: celebrating people career. So many times in this life when 552 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: people get ten years and people get twenty years, and 553 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: people if you're lucky to get twenty five or whatever, 554 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: people want to say you are sed uff and it's 555 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna be over every every years. This is last year. 556 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: This is last year. You have survived monkey foot in 557 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: this game, stick under the bubble gum with the tipple 558 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: in this ship, and we're gonna salute you. Now hold 559 00:35:54,040 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: your back until your goddamn face like take that. Thank you, 560 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: Thank y'all. Now I gotta ask you this question because 561 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: and I think if I know who you are as 562 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: an artist, that's the water amount of alot. By the way, 563 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: got down. Some boy forgot that more. I don't want 564 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: that one no more do So Look, if I everything, 565 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: if I think I know who was an artist, this 566 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: is due, y'all. Love y'all, love it. But this is 567 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a hard question for you. If I think 568 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: I know you you as an artist, what do you 569 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: like more performing or actually making the record? God damn, 570 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: that's a hard question. It's gonna be hard for you. 571 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: I might have to say, I like making the record 572 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: more rotist bomb. And the reason why I like making 573 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: the record more, it's because the performance can't exist without 574 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: the record, without the record being made a certain kind 575 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: of way, you know. But thank you. It's it's it's 576 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I think I think on a deeper level. Two, 577 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people realize how beautiful 578 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: it isn't kill me. I don't think people realize how 579 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: beautiful it is to be able to go in the 580 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: studio as an artist and lock yourself in them four 581 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: walls and you ain't around nothing that gives you back talk. 582 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: You love your woman, you love your kids, your mom's, 583 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: your friends, everybody, but the studio don't argue with you. 584 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: The studio don't ask you no questions, and studio don't 585 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: stress you out. Bro. Studio don't make no demands other 586 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: than to pay for the studio time. And it's the 587 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: people who run. So there's a lot of times when 588 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: you go on the studio and I just sit there 589 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: and I don't even create nothing. I'm just going there 590 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: just for some peace of mind. I want to be 591 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: in a studio, So I don't. I don't. I don't. 592 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to hear nobody's mouth that I gotta 593 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: hear in my house or in a workspace. And we 594 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: disagreeing and going back and forth about ship concerning your 595 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: life and their life, especially if you affect their life 596 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: directly or indirectly. Right but I go on the studio, 597 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: and not only can I not not only do I 598 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to avoid hearing ship that I don't 599 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: want to be bothered with, but I can also become 600 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: whoever I choose to be. If I think about being 601 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: a fucking avenger in the studio, I can become an avenger. 602 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: If I want to be the incredible Hulk in the studio, 603 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: I can be the incredible Hulk. That's a fact. And 604 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: if you can freely share whatever those thoughts and those 605 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: feelings are and capture it and without repercussions, with no repercussion, 606 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: because you can then't live with it for a week 607 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: or two and determine whether or not you even want 608 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: to share this ship in the world ain't gonna give 609 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: you no criticism while you, in that space are trying 610 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: to create it. And then you could go back and 611 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: revisit it and perfect it, and revisit it and perfect 612 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: it and revision and get it to a place where 613 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: it's so impeccable that before you even share it with 614 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: a motherfucking as to play for him, you've you've you've 615 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: you've mastered the intricacies of this ship so so phenomenally 616 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: that you already know what it's gonna be when you 617 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: hear it. You already know what it's gonna be when 618 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: the world hear it. You already know what it's gonna 619 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: be on that stage, and you already know what it's 620 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: gonna be when it's time to compete. Have you ever 621 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: been wrong when you made a record, Like you made 622 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: a certain record, you put a hundred percent to it. 623 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: You thought it was it was it, and it just didn't. 624 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: It just didn't stick, it didn't work. I've never been 625 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: wrong about the record. I might have been wrong about 626 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: who had to support the record. You feel me, because see, 627 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: you make your children right, you raise your children right. 628 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: You can't necessarily know what's gonna happen to their life 629 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 1: once they leave home, but you pretty much gotta hold 630 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: on what's gonna happen with their life while they live 631 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: in your house. That's like, that's like a record. N't 632 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: even looked at my kids like a record. But I 633 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: will do, okay, M a little suit dolls. That's a fact. 634 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: I think why you shot a little so much because 635 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't like anyway more. I don't gotta you gotta 636 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: balance out. I was you know what you gotta You 637 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: gotta balance out with your kid, you know a little 638 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, you gotta got a bouncing out. We 639 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: can disrespect for Mama Juana. Yeah, that is Dominicans type 640 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: of bone right there with you said about the good. 641 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: So you've been wrong about the system. I've been wrong 642 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: about who I when once I let it go, and 643 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta start having these conversations about what's 644 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: the plan, what's the rollout, what's the marketing scheme, and 645 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: what's all of this ship that you curate these initiatives 646 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: that need to be activated. Sometimes motherfucker's could say some 647 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: ship and then they really just ain't in the position 648 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: to execute it the way they say they are. And 649 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: then you know they don't never ever take responsibility when 650 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: the time comes when it don't work. You know, nobody 651 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: don't want to stand next to the ship when it 652 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: don't work. But every motherfuckingbody even they got nothing to 653 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: do with it. You know, they're standing next to it 654 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: when that ship work, like a motherfucker is sticking against 655 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: the wall, you know what I'm saying. So you know 656 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about that is when you learn that 657 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: ship and you know God willing you learn that, Sally, 658 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: and later you know how to proactive really avoid those 659 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: situations the next time, because then you got to start 660 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: going to your support system outside of those people, and 661 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: you got to find them and when you find them, 662 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: and they're the ones that really because he like believe 663 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: it or not, the greatest support system is the motherfucker 664 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: in the position to support your ship that's actually a 665 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: fucking fan of what you do. You know what I'm saying. 666 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: The person that's the fan, like, they know how to 667 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: get you to the place when they fell in love 668 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: with you, and you were your best self to them 669 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: that time, when you made them fall in love with you. 670 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: They know how to revisit that. But that's why the 671 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: fan always try to tell niggas, why don't you make 672 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: your old ship again? No, I'm never gonna make my 673 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: old ship again. But one thing that I've learned to 674 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: master the art of is revisiting the old energy that 675 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: you feel that why is that why? The z that 676 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: is a significant part of why this ship to bro, 677 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: I knew you the wrath of God. I knew you 678 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: twenty years and I knew each other through the ups 679 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: and downs or whatever. But for this time. It's just 680 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: it feels different. It's go around, Thank you, Ke. It 681 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: feels like, and I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be 682 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: honest with you. It feels like you use your haters energy. 683 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: I felt like you use your haters this time. I 684 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: felt like you actually embedded body of everybody who said 685 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: something about I felt like you woke up one day, 686 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: looked at your Instagram and only looked at all the 687 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: negative comments. Listen, I'm gonna smack these guys in the 688 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: fucking face. That's what it feels like. I'm gonna outside 689 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: looking and I'm not sure. No, I'm gonna be honest 690 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: with you. I know we're on camera, but you know 691 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: a lot more than motion. You know when we talk. 692 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm guess in this one, you know you're hitting it 693 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: in the center the bull's eye. Um, you know I 694 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: was a three hundred and forty pounds nigger. Bro. That 695 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: makes age for that, I mean, that does matter, does 696 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: not make alloy for that. Finished. I'm sorry, So so 697 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: I was three hundred and forty pounds. I heard the comments, Bro. 698 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: Don't think it started like when we fell off stage. 699 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: I know what started before that. It was before that. Yeah, 700 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: because even when I fell off stage, man, I was 701 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: two millions sold with old T Genesis. We're saying, I'm 702 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: all of these years later, still breaking artists during the 703 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: streaming in the did you do when a lot of 704 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: Niggers are still trying to figure out how to navigate thetis? 705 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: Right now? Because I think he still help you, I'll 706 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 1: understand something. We still ain't drop an albumistic got six millions, 707 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: So like, I don't know what and I'm affective. How 708 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: do you get to read this beforeever? I don't know. 709 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I just watching ship like I make sure nobody 710 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: looking because you know, I'm from New York and doesn't 711 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: look good. So good dude, man, he's a good dude 712 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: looking up every time. Thank you for that. Yeah, you 713 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: do a great job that. It ain't just me though 714 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm a support system for o T. It's him. He 715 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: knows how to make his music. Ain't nobody telling them 716 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: what beats to pick, Ain't nobody telling him what choruses 717 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: to come up with, and he's having fun. Ain't nobody 718 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: telling them how to flow on the record. He is 719 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent in charge of his cree creative space. 720 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: All I am is the motherfucker that know how to 721 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: get the support system right and the bags to make 722 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: sure that he supported and and show him how to 723 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: get to the bag. And he figured out how to 724 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: get to it on his own, even separate from the 725 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: information and he got from me on how to get 726 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: to it. So Ot is one of those dream come 727 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: true artists that you wish you could find. And he 728 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: was one of those artists that knew how to create 729 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: his own excitement, traction, enthusiasm and buzz, which is what 730 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: attracted me to him in the first place. He was 731 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: signing the fifty before he came to me. And when 732 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: I've seen Ot Genesis, he was sucking up a club 733 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: with one record called Touchdown and l a called Playhouse 734 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: where it was almost like a direct correlation to when 735 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 1: I was performing put your hands with my eyes could 736 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: see three four times in a row the last night 737 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: the Palladium was open. A new y'all Nicker had this 738 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: club in a Tornado ver this one record called Touchdown, 739 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: where I stood by the speaker that he climbed up 740 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: on just to wait for him to climb down so 741 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: I could grab his ass by the all him and 742 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: say wait a minute now, we're gonna when you signed 743 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: to M who's your manager? Nobody? Okay, you gotta come 744 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: see me the mom And then we got together. We 745 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: had this conversation about business, and then we had a 746 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: a real man conversation about respect, principles, morals, and integrity. 747 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: And when both of those conversations was honored, the business 748 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 1: got handled and we became a fucking United Front fast 749 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: life conglomerate. And then at that point, oh T knew 750 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: what he had to do, and then I knew what 751 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: I had to do because once he figured it out, 752 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew what I was gonna do with him, 753 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: but I just needed him to figure out what he 754 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: needed to do. All right, let me let me be 755 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate right now. People from the beginning of hip 756 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: hop beginning to bust this thing, you know, Larry Cool, uh, 757 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: you know the essence of hip hop? Have you ever 758 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: got slacked for? You know? Because because like, for lack 759 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: of a better term, he's like a new school type 760 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: of artist. Like, like we said, he stops that he 761 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: didn't he doesn't. He didn't even drop an album, so 762 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: some people will call him a single driven Excuse me, 763 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: by the way, O T. Genesis just dropped a new 764 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: single with Chris Brown and Mr Charlie Wilson about one 765 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: week ago, and I need y'all go and peep with 766 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: the funk going on, because this is one second. I 767 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: got a motherfucking record out with motherfucking bobs called Tel 768 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: called Donning the Box, and I got a disrespectful record. 769 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: I have another b respectful record after Anderson pack Cord 770 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: more time. I got an incredible collaborat Trippy ran out 771 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: there for all of the young generations. It's got another 772 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: collaborator just came out of West Side Gunner, Slick Rape, 773 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: super big up the West Side Gunning, the whole result 774 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: of the family Conway and motherfucking Benny, that butcher Benny 775 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: to put your ship is out, Conway ship is out. 776 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: All the ship is disrespectful out it. Excuse me one 777 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: more second. I just dropped the motherfucking amazing collaboration the 778 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: legendary Stevie Wonder court Day. I didn't see this reading 779 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: all the features Stevie Wonder featuring corn Day, Rapsit and 780 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 1: buns the rhymes. Okay, I'm not done. I'm not done. 781 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: I heard you see Stevie Roll. We want to rolled 782 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: up in that session I never ever seen because brother 783 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: rolled up. No session, I'm gonna Stevie. No, I'm not playing. 784 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: Jack told me that him and Stevie can really see him. 785 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: Jack big up to my brother Exhibit be real and 786 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: Demericky who just came my son of some of some 787 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: of Sam and uh. I got an incredible collap with 788 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: exhibit in Demrick and this brother named John C. It's 789 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: just called man Down that just dropped last Friday. We 790 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: gotta asked, We gotta ask you see the brother has 791 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: been working by the way, just yeah, we see it. 792 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: We see you in the name exhibit. But it's a 793 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: few doctor Drake pictures getting ready to come out to 794 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: that the world. I see it. You know where I'm 795 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: going with. I know exactly where you're going. It's Dr 796 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: dre on E L p Hi. Everybody's gonna have to 797 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: find out October thirty dropping this October twenty nine, October 798 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: right now, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can officially calling. Yeah, 799 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: what's mother Toober? So you're gonna be successful. I'm not 800 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 1: getting nobody. No, I'm about this closing no information about 801 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: who's on my album because I'm not I'm not really 802 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: good at the right time to get Dr Drake Right now, 803 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: I think it's just think. I think it's biscuit right now. 804 00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: I think I think the most amazing thing about mystique 805 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: is that's what used to make our motherfucker let me 806 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: see you going. So it's like I was saying, I 807 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: think that I think the most amazing thing about the 808 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:45,959 Speaker 1: mystique that's been lost in this game is it mere's 809 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: a there's a there's a few artists that still hold 810 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: on to it that it contributes to the amazing nous 811 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 1: of who they are because see, absence makes the heart 812 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: grow fonder. You know what I'm saying. That's a motherfucking fact. 813 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: That's a motherfucker fact. You know, I need ice in 814 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: my joint. Always put the ice cube in my shot. 815 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: Hove and Beyonce incredible with mistake, Kendrick Lamar's incredible mistake. 816 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: M hmm. Nas nas that's been his whole ship. Nas 817 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: Andre been on the incredible mystique ship, and I think, 818 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: thank you, brother, And I think that it's a lost 819 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: treasure in hip hop. I've seen Beyonce say one time 820 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: on something that was a post on the Graham that 821 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: and I'm from the error where that was important way 822 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: before Beyonce came out. But what was beautiful about the 823 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: way Beyonce articulated it, and don't quote me verbatim, was 824 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: she addressed the fact that it's strange how the game 825 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: evolved into this thing where having to share when you 826 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: ship pissed, fart, sleep, throw up, burn became more important 827 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: than actually the talent itself that connects with the consumer, 828 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: the final product. The only thing that the consumers should 829 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 1: be entitled to is the gift that you was blessed 830 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 1: with that you choose to share all this extra other 831 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: ship that you feel like, I gotta show you when 832 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm giving birth when I fucking threw up after drinking 833 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: too much into party one time, I was, what, you're 834 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: a club less somebody. Somebody told you about it. We're 835 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: going we told about somebody take a picture about it. 836 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: And you came to them you can't and said you 837 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: raised that picture. And at first I said, maybe Buss 838 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: is going too far until it happened to me. And 839 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: when it happened to me, I think I called you 840 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: and I said, mus you're right, this new generation is 841 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 1: just fat. But because they don't just film you without 842 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: without asking, without none of that. But see, that's not 843 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: really their fault how they was raised. It's just the programming. Programming. 844 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: Such a boy said he's from the hood, and Nigga said, 845 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: you are not sold soldiery sold you sudable, a situation 846 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: not soldiable, not the clean up you a director. I'm 847 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: saying the situation from that moming on. Everybody said we 848 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: need that on film, now, we need it on film. No, 849 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna agree with you. I think he's been 850 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: going on way before, way before that, you know what 851 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but, but but my thing is early 852 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: on checking that. Yeah, early on. How can I be 853 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: down early days? Just crazy that you said that was 854 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: just rocking with Peter Thomas and fucking Atlanta. That's what 855 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: you can do in the Caribbean car That's when I 856 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: see you shutting phones that pull up solut This is bust. Agree. 857 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: So so the reason why it's an issue for me, 858 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us can agree. It comes 859 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: from the nineties. You know, I'm still a Reagonomics error child, right, 860 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: so a lot of crack. I mean, it doesn't automatic, 861 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: it does mean that and and and and and because 862 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: of what we was doing two things. He wasn't allowed 863 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: to talk about it because it was self incriminating. And 864 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,959 Speaker 1: number two Task Force and DS and FED just coming 865 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: around filming you without your permission to get intelligence you 866 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: to build a case. Why the funk would I be 867 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: comfortable with a motherfucker just randomly filming me, especially now 868 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: when the police looked like the niggers you hang out with. 869 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: At least the police back then, he looked nothing like 870 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: the niggas we hung out with. Now, these niggas got tattoos, 871 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,919 Speaker 1: don't want them, gang sounds and the whole ship. That's 872 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell the niggas. So what I'm 873 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: saying is I need to be very concerned, especially with 874 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: the experience that I come from, and anowledge yourself did 875 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: I come from? And just the ship that I'm bed 876 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: witness too. If you're feeling something, I just want to know, 877 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm approachable. It's your approach that determined outcome. 878 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Your body language, how it's 879 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: it's it's your it's how you. You are in complete 880 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: control of how a fire who don't know if you're 881 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: trying to protest and you're already feeling us. You're already up. 882 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: You're starting from because you don't know if I want 883 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: to be in this conversation or not, and you don't 884 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm going through on that day. That's the fact. 885 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: You could be feeling me on the day they're a 886 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 1: close loved one that died, or I could be going 887 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: through a divorce, so I could be going through, you know, 888 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: a beef with my closest brother. Come and how you doing. 889 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: Pleasure to meet you, brother. I'm a huge fan of 890 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Whatever you want to say, whatever the verbiages, 891 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 1: just as long as it's respect ful and cannot get 892 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: this picture cool. And if I say no because I'm 893 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: dealing with something, respect that show your love. You're gonna 894 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: get it in return because everything is reciprocation over here. 895 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, get back to 896 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: enjoying your evening, because if you ain't see me at all, 897 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: you would have still enjoyed the evening. You know. I 898 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: would at something in the Grand today and it was 899 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: a Denzel Post. Denzel Post said, I don't know if 900 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: it was his post, but it was somebody who took 901 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: a snapshot of a tweet that he supposedly posted. He said, 902 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: everybody got eighty four thousand dollars. Right. If somebody took 903 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: sixty dollars from you and you was left with eighty 904 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: four thousand, five hundred excuse me, eighty three thousand, three 905 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: five d and forty dollars, would you risk losing that 906 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: forty dollars over sixty dollars? I don't let me. Let 907 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: me answered the jewel. He says, everybody got eighty four 908 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: thousand seconds in a day, right, would you let somebody 909 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: take sixty seconds? Would you risk eighty four thousand, five 910 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: hundred and forty seconds of your day for sixty seconds? Ah, 911 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: you killed that, You killed that killed that, saying that 912 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: one sixty seconds could destroy the rest of your eighty 913 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: four thousand, five hundred and forty seconds because you're being impulsive. 914 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: This is a bigger picture. Let that nigga have them 915 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: in sixty seconds and hold on to your eighty four thousand, 916 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: five hundred and four eighty three thousand, five hundred and 917 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: forty seconds, because that's sixty seconds. Ain't worth fucking up 918 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: all of that, you feel me? So that's the jewel 919 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. That's the jewel. You can't. 920 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't let even if your interaction is wrong. 921 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: And I learned this the hard way, right. I caught 922 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: a few assault charges, yeah, all of them, since was 923 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: based on respect that I felt was being compromised. It 924 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: wasn't worth it. I went upside nigga's heads for no reason. 925 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: But that's a pet pee for mine. When I was younger, 926 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: she respected everything in my upbringing, my mother, my father. 927 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: We're West Indian house. West Indian culture is a proud 928 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: people of very proud and let me be clear, we're 929 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna make sure there's a distinguishing more difference from that 930 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: proud boy ship that they're talking about and the proud 931 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: people your back news, you understand, So you know what 932 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: that being said. The proudness of the West Indian people 933 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: is as a result of the great sufferer and it 934 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: sacrifice that we have been able to rise from that 935 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: proud boy Shoot, I don't know what the funk that 936 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: ship is about, but I'm not working with none of that, 937 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and I hope at nobody in this room sucking with that. 938 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, at the end of the day, 939 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: that's how I was raised. So respect is important, Proper 940 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: manners is important, proper code of ethics is importing, and 941 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: etiquette is important. So if we meet each other and 942 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: because you want this picture and I don't give it 943 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: to you, you want to be disrespectful of the time, 944 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: It's not gonna result in a good way. It's gonna 945 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: be reciprocated from you. It's going to be reciprocated and 946 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: giving back the same way you initiated it. Because for 947 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: one second, because a lot of people forget that we're humans, 948 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: that's the fact. And the thing is, the thing is 949 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I get that you know, we give you as certain 950 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: persona of us that where we are, you can talk 951 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: to us and you do know us. But at the 952 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: same token, we are humans. Like I want to walk 953 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: into a restaurant. Why can't I just walk into a restaurant? 954 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Why don't have to be stopped? A lot of people 955 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,479 Speaker 1: don't just understand that if you was just a normal version, 956 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: which we are, we're just normal people, it would be 957 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: took you that way. So because I remember it was 958 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: foot is if I think it was outside the club 959 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: live right, and somebody said something to you, and I 960 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: would get what it was what it was and and 961 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: the foot is envirouls. I'm trying to recall because was 962 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: it living with just something else? And And the thing 963 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: is t people think they just can say anything to us, 964 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: like as rappers. If you say you're listening, give me, 965 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: give me a moment, Like I was just in my hood. 966 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: I can't say this person's name, but he needed just 967 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: how that mean? I just told him, I said, just 968 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: give me a minute. I could imagine. I don't know 969 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: how he felt, but I really was in the middle 970 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: of working and I can imagine how he felt. So 971 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't polize in bad but I can't say his name. 972 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,479 Speaker 1: He just I don't know if he felt that way. 973 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: But the thing is a lot of people don't realize 974 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: that we're human. Like I just want to walk into 975 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: the in the spot and I remember, you know, seeing 976 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: that and knowing you would knowing your side. Obviously you 977 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 1: don't remember that. You said no, I actually remember more 978 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: than one. But you have the fountain blue. That's what 979 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, more than one. So outside of live in 980 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: parking lot, valley area and in the hotel by the 981 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: swimming pool, under estimate how famous you are? Okay, you know, no, 982 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't underestimate that I work hard for that mother. 983 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: But what what what? What? What I what I do 984 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: sometimes misconceptualize is people's consideration. I think sometimes we don't 985 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: consider each other enough. And I'm guilty of that as well, 986 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: sometimes I think, and I'm I'm completely apologetic to any 987 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: and everybody that I might have offended and Mike rubbed 988 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: the wrong way in the future. Like, you gotta understand, 989 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: we're human beings. We all have our shortcomings. Ain't nobody perfect. 990 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: We have our flaws. It's okay if we are rubbing 991 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: each other the wrong way. Let's have a civil building 992 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: discussion about it. It ain't gotta be long and drawn out. 993 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: But before you get to the level of zero to 994 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: a hundred, does every every choice comes with an invoice, 995 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: So be mindful with what you're choosing to do when 996 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: you deal with me that It's just it's the same 997 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: thing as every ian. Every choice you make got a 998 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: price to pick. It's the same saying it's done in 999 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: a different way. But what I'm saying is perfect well whatever, 1000 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is, you know it's the 1001 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: same thing vice versa. We do have to be mindful 1002 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: of how we deal with people and their excitement too 1003 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: that they don't know. That's what I'm saying. It's not 1004 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: like they're doing something malicious or wrong. Sometimes you have 1005 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: you are trying to use fans ship to to troll 1006 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: and get a fucking follow up by filming the disrespect. 1007 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: But see, that's the real risky gambling part because they 1008 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: can't control the outcome while it's being filmed. So be 1009 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: mindful of what you're doing. But what I'm saying is, 1010 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we still all have 1011 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: to be considerate of how we deal with each other. 1012 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: A lot of the times I have become a lot 1013 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: better with being able to say, if I tell somebody now, 1014 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: this ain't the right time, I still shake their hand, 1015 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: pull them in, give him a hug, and help them 1016 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: understand and why it's not the right time, instead of 1017 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: just saying it ain't the right time and bouncing on 1018 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: them and making them feel like I ain't even acknowledging 1019 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: or appreciating the love that they're trying to give me. 1020 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's important. Understanding is the 1021 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: best part. It's the reflection of knowledge and wisdom. And 1022 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: do you understand what kind of fan do you have? Like, 1023 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: because like I had to narrow it down like me 1024 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: at one point, right, I do you know what I'm going? 1025 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm going, like I got drunk fans, 1026 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: right So no, that's seriously even before a dream chance. 1027 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: So I had to realize that some of these guys 1028 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 1: are coming up to me aggressive because they think that's 1029 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: what I want. They think they thinking what what what what? What? 1030 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 1: So they come up to me on some what what 1031 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 1: what energy? And I have to let him know, like Nigga, 1032 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: that was a record, so I'll be happening. And I 1033 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: realized Uncle you know, is a big guy, and I 1034 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: had to kind of explain to him because why was 1035 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 1: just be so protective? And I was like, you know, 1036 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: certain people energies I read Uncle good I would have 1037 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: I would have to literally look at somebody and say 1038 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: the energy might have been aggressive, but their words and 1039 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 1: their character was so passive. It was just you know, 1040 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: I love Lloyd. You know what I'm saying. I did 1041 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,680 Speaker 1: a bit to him, But the way they're saying it, 1042 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: you would think they're out of passionate, But but what 1043 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: they're actually saying is like that's just regular fan ship. 1044 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, did you did 1045 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: you ever get a chance to say? You know what 1046 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: I identify? I bust a ryand fan. Is there a 1047 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: bust the Ryan fan type? Because my type is drunk? No? No, no, 1048 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 1: no no no, You're absolutely right. The buster rhymes the 1049 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: majority of the time, I think you gotta really yeah, 1050 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:10,799 Speaker 1: I'm after that come the bustermund fan that I noticed 1051 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: on the majority level is the ones that want me 1052 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 1: to do the woo hide and all of that animated 1053 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: ship in the videos all the time on site, Like 1054 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 1: as soon as I'm making gonna do it, it's like 1055 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do it on some wind up. Do 1056 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like I ain't on front 1057 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:36,480 Speaker 1: and and and I think the little bit of frustration 1058 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 1: that comes from it for me, and that when I 1059 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: try to help them understand that I ain't. That's not 1060 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: who I am twenty four hours a day. The let 1061 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: down that I see in them that sucks me up. 1062 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: They know that's exactly what they do. That's where they go. 1063 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's so many levels before you're thinking that 1064 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm just on some funny ship with you. I'm not 1065 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: on the funny ship with you was school face all day. 1066 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: You don't want to Stevens shooting school face. Ain't know. 1067 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, not but but but but but 1068 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: but but but but that's that's that's that's frustrating for 1069 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: me because I don't want to let the love down. 1070 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to let no one down that that 1071 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,879 Speaker 1: is genuinely showing love and that genuinely wants to express 1072 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: their loves. You don't think that's the trade off of 1073 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,839 Speaker 1: the mystique because the people who don't give that mystique, 1074 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 1: when the fan approaches them, they've seen them shipped, fart 1075 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: and piss like you said, and they're like, all right, 1076 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: we're taking you on. All humans, but the mystique, they 1077 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: see you as a god. I think that might be 1078 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a jewel. That's a jew that's a serious, 1079 01:12:53,439 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: sucking me up serious. That's ill though, because because because 1080 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: like like I mean, we do know that absence makes 1081 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 1: the love go find makes the heart gro fonder. So yes, 1082 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't make people hold you in the higher regard 1083 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the less they see you. But that perspective, and particularly 1084 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,720 Speaker 1: interesting perspective, I haven't looked at it from that perspective, 1085 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: and it might be right. I think you know what 1086 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm seeing you ship, fun, piss and all of that 1087 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: and not getting that when they see you is where 1088 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 1: the letdown comes from. But the mystique is what makes 1089 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 1: the let down greater. You're right, and let me just 1090 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: tell you something. Right, you have the biggest Unfortunately, it's 1091 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 1: very efforculate with Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson, like I'm 1092 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 1: not gonna lie counting your money doing the Janet Jackson 1093 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:10,920 Speaker 1: was this thing. It is rich Rick Hunt dollar video 1094 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: seth Hunter fi dollar and that's how it did. See 1095 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: they say you had a million dollars video. That was 1096 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a bullshit. You had a seven hundred villion dollars dollar video. 1097 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 1: And the hype led Mr Childs from from New y 1098 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 1: in a million a million bus. She started two point five. 1099 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: She was just respectful out here. I'm just being honest. 1100 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I went, I looked at the records. Bigger ship was 1101 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: nine eight what I'm saying, and then you over a 1102 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: bunch of it and then you hit a million because 1103 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,479 Speaker 1: this wasn't co signing the man like I think it 1104 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: was supposed to hide a million for the actual signing 1105 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: but I you get far hunted and then they're gonna 1106 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: be all right. Even wanted because that was it, like 1107 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: everybody wanted them me and out of vision budget, so 1108 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: Hype would being cahusive the label I'm making this up. 1109 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm swear to God, I really don't know if I'm 1110 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: this is true or not. I can't guess how happened 1111 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: ruined me alright, so was not a million dollars, seven 1112 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and I'm sorry, I just 1113 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: don't bring it right back to you. But let me 1114 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: just tell you how Hype caught me. And he's from Queen, 1115 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 1: so it makes it even worse. Okay, some dollars I 1116 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: went to I went to the I. I gotta say, 1117 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: it's just fucking crazy Williams right home. It's my friend. Okay, 1118 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: it's my friends Williams. Yes, we love you, brother, but 1119 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: you was he was vilely U'll tell you how this 1120 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: ispecter he was with me. Bus let me just take 1121 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: this crazy I so we I paid the budget everything right, 1122 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: So we're in the middle of the desert. Were in 1123 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the desert, but I was looking at 1124 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: me and my feelings a little bit this. Oh no, 1125 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:17,520 Speaker 1: just right. So I like, we ordered the regular craftsmanship. 1126 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, I'm eating whenever was 1127 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 1: foul out there. And then I see these Milo bitches 1128 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, this minol woman, and they're walking out. They 1129 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 1: got chicken so tane and I said, wait a minute, 1130 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 1: where is that peanut sauce? And they're like, yeah, hype lick. 1131 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I go the hype trailer. I swear to god, I 1132 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: wish I was exaggerated. His whole trails filled. Mr Chaz 1133 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, we was at Maria. I wandered, 1134 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: this was it? Put the bottom bitches in there? And 1135 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,600 Speaker 1: you didn't You did not tell me you didn't get 1136 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: none of my friends you have. Mr Childers. I said, 1137 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,960 Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm sitting there. I'm like, we're in 1138 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. You know, listen, Mr Childs and LA So 1139 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's how we do it, high By. 1140 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 1: We got Mr Childs from l A to build up 1141 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: in the Las Vegas you're doing. He said, right, I 1142 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 1: got this flu in from New York that I had 1143 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: Mr Childs flown in from New York to Vegas in 1144 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: the desert or me nor bust gets worse, it gets worse. 1145 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: We Hearnissey drinkers, and I'm gonna say this from now, 1146 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you end, and we're gonna move on 1147 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 1: to the next See. I do not want to elaborate. Listen, 1148 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,640 Speaker 1: so I don't think you'll be heartisy drinkers at the 1149 01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 1: time gives us a cooler, cooler full of some other ship. 1150 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 1: We're sitting there drinking this other ship. Do you even 1151 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,720 Speaker 1: know what this other ship was? The whole time, you're 1152 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: mixing it with pepsi, this thing. It gave us a 1153 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: cooler for the Louis. The thirteen bozo asses didn't even 1154 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,839 Speaker 1: know it. We're sitting there and drinking it with pepsi. 1155 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 1: The whole crew was like, oh my god, Louis PEPSI 1156 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 1: were mixing everybody. It was Dave chapelle Ski you should 1157 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: know no money. So I felt like that were out. 1158 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Sorry you had a flask of hype Winds And I 1159 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: still love hype Wins. I love him too. What we 1160 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,600 Speaker 1: could we need to change it? Something? Just opeting with 1161 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson two point five, it was actually two point four. 1162 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:54,719 Speaker 1: That's sick with two point five. First, I'm gonna be honest, 1163 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 1: I think my wife would even let me get away 1164 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: with this. I don't think I could like cheat with 1165 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. But Penny from Good Times, I think I'll 1166 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: get away with it. You know who Beenny from Good Times? 1167 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: You have to ask me, no crazy ship like that? 1168 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: My niggas to film with any Good Times? How does 1169 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: this happen? You hype whims and a bunch of silver 1170 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:24,759 Speaker 1: and platinum in the background. Let's go this video, man, video, 1171 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,599 Speaker 1: it's so crazy. I'm saying that likes so terminated too. 1172 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:35,439 Speaker 1: Movie The Liquid Robot Janet Jackson on the Velvet Rope Tour. 1173 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: She smells like pieces. She smelled like she was bathing 1174 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 1: in fruits and berries. And we can't. Yeah, we can't. 1175 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 1: We can't front every everything. Everything about Janet is an 1176 01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 1: immaculate conception. I don't I have yet, No, not that 1177 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: I have yet. I have never witnessed the flaws. That's hard. Um, 1178 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 1: everybody got these shortcomings. I just don't. I never interacted 1179 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 1: with her enough to experience that side. So it is 1180 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,480 Speaker 1: what it is. She's she's she's uh, she's a goddess 1181 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:27,639 Speaker 1: to me. Um. So Terminated two. Movie The Liquid Rollbock 1182 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Velvet Rope Tour, Angie Martinez, that's how I came together, 1183 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Angie Martinez, who you have with Janet Jackson has just 1184 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 1: throw the room out there right now now what happened 1185 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: with right now? Right now? Janet was on Angie Martinez 1186 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 1: when she was on Hard on the seven promoting rope 1187 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: tour and she's and Angie asked her if she ever 1188 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 1: worked with what hip hop artists that she has never 1189 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 1: worked with that she wants it, would like to work with. 1190 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 1: She said Busch two rhymes, I'm in I'm in the 1191 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,799 Speaker 1: whip driving and I had to pull over. I couldn't 1192 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: take it. So you hit on the Twitter back, Twitter back, 1193 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: this was did you do page? Somebody I called Mona 1194 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Scott Mona, I need you to get in touch with Janet. 1195 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: This is so that I got the song for you. 1196 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Already had the record, no song booker. I didn't have 1197 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 1: no song when it found the song and she got 1198 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: in touch with Janet and Janet was with it to 1199 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 1: talk and we got on the phone and she was 1200 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: with the whole clad I did. So we got the 1201 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: song done. The center the ref She loved the idea. 1202 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: After that, now I was about coordinating. You got another shot, 1203 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 1: I got another shot. I don't playing out what we're playing. 1204 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 1: Drink he is a drink gam So we sent the 1205 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: queen the song and she she loved it. Now it 1206 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 1: was about figuring out how we're gonna get the song 1207 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: we called it. So we had to go through this 1208 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,719 Speaker 1: particular protocol because we fuck with a goddess. It's royalty. 1209 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, us a royalty. Right there, 1210 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,640 Speaker 1: he went walking this room. She made this whole room 1211 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: get cleared out walking No no, no, no, no, no, 1212 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 1: she's not. It ain't gonna make the room get cleared out. 1213 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,640 Speaker 1: They got to be cleared the at Nobody going to 1214 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 1: be in the room before when they first pull up, 1215 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 1: Nobody in the room. So it had to be advanced. Obviously, 1216 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 1: security pull up. Well, she picked the studio and it 1217 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 1: was a neutral location. It wasn't no way that she 1218 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 1: would be expected to be where that I would be expecting. 1219 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 1: It was at location to do it with everything that 1220 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: was not to be where she might have been, or 1221 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,680 Speaker 1: where she's known to be, or I might have been 1222 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:35,679 Speaker 1: away I'm known to be to be pieces city service 1223 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 1: levels the fact, So they advanced the spot. She picked it. 1224 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,639 Speaker 1: Since this the location, we approve it. Let's called green light. 1225 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Now we gotta make the environment sexunt comfortable for the queen. 1226 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,679 Speaker 1: Don't do my research. Kind of candles she like, kind 1227 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,640 Speaker 1: of like kind of fragrance, she like, get the confirmation 1228 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 1: on all of that. That rape the ship out of 1229 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,640 Speaker 1: the room. In my mind, you was playing you just 1230 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 1: like Erica by Dude pussy escense in my mind, and 1231 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,560 Speaker 1: do you know Ericone do that incense? And yeah, she 1232 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:24,599 Speaker 1: got yeah, she got up, she got yeah, just cool. 1233 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: It's just know it's hers, it's hers, it's her, it's 1234 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 1: her smell. Yea, yeah, just what happened? What's the smell? 1235 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 1: Like the break? I gotta p Yeah, we all let 1236 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 1: me in. Yeah yeah, let go work beyond the pistough 1237 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 1: have to reap it. Yeah, the work, Michael jack what's 1238 01:24:53,800 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 1: around the jack? Okay? Boss here, I'm here, Okay, boss. 1239 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Let me just be honest. I think we left off recording. 1240 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:12,839 Speaker 1: Um what Janet Jackson and studios was burning in the studio. 1241 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: I think that's where we left off. Is it candles 1242 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: or incense and candles? It was in my mind. She 1243 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: car car fresh m as well is crazy car in freshman. 1244 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,280 Speaker 1: So so, like I said, we did the investigation to 1245 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 1: see what the queen likes, flower wise, fragrance wise, and 1246 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 1: just decorative um ship. They just just create the moved, 1247 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, set the moved, and once we found out 1248 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 1: we successfully executed, made sure everything was there that she 1249 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 1: liked or that we researched that she liked. So I 1250 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: get to the studio first, and security comes once we 1251 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 1: knew that they showed up, you knew she was on 1252 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: the way. So the main room that we were supposed 1253 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: to record in, I was so nervous that I actually 1254 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 1: booked another room because I didn't want to stay in 1255 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,400 Speaker 1: the room or around her too long. No, I just 1256 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to be around her too long period because 1257 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do nothing wrong. That's very rich. 1258 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: That's like, you let me book the other room. Yeah, 1259 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:43,559 Speaker 1: the whole studio being careful and respectful and and and 1260 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 1: and proactive. Back then, it was a lockout, that's might 1261 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 1: you might have spent twelve thous just to walk through. 1262 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Fortunately it was one day, so I ain't have to 1263 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:03,680 Speaker 1: spend that much and feel like that. But the thing 1264 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: that was the most important part was just making sure 1265 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: that sorry, was this is Los Angeles? I feel like 1266 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: this is Los Angeles. No, it was somewhere in the 1267 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 1: middle of the country, like some remote location in the 1268 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 1: middle of the country. You know something, I mean, you 1269 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: know something it was. It was something weird, middle of 1270 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 1: America place like that. She picked that she was in 1271 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: total control of the way this went down because obviously 1272 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 1: her comfort is priority, so that he pulled us off 1273 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: the right way rightfully, So she fucking earned that. She's 1274 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Queen royal Empress got us, so we're gonna move accordingly. 1275 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,680 Speaker 1: So cool, We're working all out, whatever the case may be. 1276 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: And you know, when the security shows up, I'm like, 1277 01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 1: I let me get another room because I just didn't 1278 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 1: want to be working in a at a pace creatively 1279 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,600 Speaker 1: that isn't matching her pace, so she would have to 1280 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,680 Speaker 1: be sitting around waiting for me to finish creatively. So 1281 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I went in another room so that I wouldn't be 1282 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: distracted by being in the same space with her. You know, 1283 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to not look at you. And I 1284 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: laid all of my verses in another role so that 1285 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: my ship could be done right away, no distractions. I'm 1286 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: not staring at her the whole session. I'm giving her 1287 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 1: absolutely that was the most important not doing nothing that 1288 01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be extra around her. So we get it, 1289 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: We get it done, song finished, phenomenal results, Everything is amazing. 1290 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 1: Now it's time to shoot the video. Now is that 1291 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: something you established before you record the record that, um, 1292 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,599 Speaker 1: this is not just me doing record with you, but 1293 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: this is the full flesh single, you know, like we're 1294 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 1: going we're going all out. That is that's some of 1295 01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 1: you would crest prior or that's you get the record 1296 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 1: done and you think about it later. I think everybody 1297 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 1: is very clear that you don't use Janet Jackson as 1298 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:23,000 Speaker 1: an album dust collected besides album. Excuse me, I'm sorry, brother, 1299 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Let's be act, but let's be clear. They can front 1300 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: on you. You're going to she did the record, you know, 1301 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,719 Speaker 1: the regular I think she's a virgin at that time, 1302 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 1: I believe. So that's what I'm saying. That's you're right, 1303 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 1: they can front on it. Do a record. You want 1304 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 1: to do a record with me? That do mean you're 1305 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 1: getting video right when you're getting a single right. You're right, 1306 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: But it all depends on how this record comes out. 1307 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,680 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. It all depends on 1308 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 1: how Janet feels. That's really what it all balls down to, 1309 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, she was super 1310 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: Bowl stuff to the point where she is the shot 1311 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 1: calling the end. All says all when it comes to 1312 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,479 Speaker 1: the decision making process, when it comes to her ship, 1313 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:06,559 Speaker 1: her likeness, her being, whatever she said goes rightfully. So 1314 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 1: now I get the blessing of everything. Video clarance, single clearance, 1315 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: album clearance, everything to go. I'm super on cloud to trillion, 1316 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 1: trying to shoot the video. M treatment is done. We 1317 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: discussed treatment. We see the budget, budget out of control. 1318 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: Can't believe it. Sylvia Wrong, got to do all types 1319 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 1: of ship to get it approved. She gets it approved. 1320 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 1: Big up Sylvia Wrong. She was big up Sylvia Wrong. 1321 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Mother of my career. She helped introduced bust the rhyme 1322 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 1: to the disrespectful tax bracket and conjunction with violator. She 1323 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 1: also was extremely passionate and confess committed to making sure 1324 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 1: that whatever our dreams were, our ideas were, she saw 1325 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,440 Speaker 1: it through, even if it might have meant some backlash 1326 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:11,720 Speaker 1: for her. Okay, now we're shooting the video. I get 1327 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 1: to the video shoot. Janet Jackson got this dress on 1328 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 1: and it got these different rings on it, and the 1329 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: different rings on it, I don't understand what they was. 1330 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,600 Speaker 1: And she had them little she had the rings on 1331 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 1: her ends of her fingernails, so she had them on 1332 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 1: her fingernails. She had I don't think that's where he 1333 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 1: was going with. So so I'm looking at these rings 1334 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and I'm just like it was Queen, what's the significance 1335 01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,240 Speaker 1: of all of these rings? And she goes this cockerings 1336 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: WHOA just straight up she said, these is cock rings. 1337 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Trying to understand you, correct, Nori, I don't feel comfortable 1338 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:19,880 Speaker 1: further than it's just we around a bunch of men. 1339 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: I already said the cock that that that is a 1340 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: a use your imagination. So something with the rings and 1341 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 1: the man's Johnson was conducive to each other. And I 1342 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 1: this was news to me. I never knew nothing about 1343 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 1: this and I didn't understand it. But I just thought 1344 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 1: that the ship was incredible. As she was willing to 1345 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:53,240 Speaker 1: go there for my video, well our video, so we 1346 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 1: do what we do shoot the video and the interaction 1347 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,559 Speaker 1: between us was so beautiful because she didn't have any 1348 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:07,200 Speaker 1: discomfort with allowing me to interact with her very essentially, 1349 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,600 Speaker 1: so I was able to hold around her waist, and 1350 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:28,040 Speaker 1: we're sticking tongues at each other and ain't gonna look 1351 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,640 Speaker 1: at how many more takes. I'm not even gonna lie. 1352 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,760 Speaker 1: And she didn't let me get away like pity. You know, 1353 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,439 Speaker 1: every man in the right mind is imagining, wishing and 1354 01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 1: hoping that there was an opportunity, even in a millions 1355 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 1: of a fraction, for that to be a possibility. But 1356 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:53,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately it was a super dub perspectfully, so we'respectfullly so 1357 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,880 Speaker 1: and would we dare try to have a cross that 1358 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:04,520 Speaker 1: line in the sand. You were deserving of every repercussion 1359 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 1: that game behind it, So you don't even try your hand, 1360 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 1: and she commands a certain level of respect. It's not 1361 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,800 Speaker 1: even worth rolling the dice on that type of ship. 1362 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: So you smell like beaches, he said, don basket the 1363 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 1: whole food basket. Cocktail, food baskets food cocktail, got fruit 1364 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 1: tostion on type of organic with the cocktail. She's better 1365 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:44,360 Speaker 1: than that ship. Got a bust. Now this is another thing. Now, 1366 01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 1: this is just a great sect where you gotta shot. 1367 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,760 Speaker 1: I gotta shot as one. Hold on, let me get 1368 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 1: a shot. Hold up, Look this is this foul ship 1369 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,240 Speaker 1: in America? Be honest, I got a whole little respect 1370 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 1: for you because I didn't see anybody else touch model. 1371 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:03,840 Speaker 1: This is you. I gave ye. Charlie's your friend for real. Man, 1372 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:08,880 Speaker 1: y'all going through each other. Hold up, big up to 1373 01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 1: hold up slip chill. I want to pick up. We 1374 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,200 Speaker 1: picked up splip, start properly, right again, Up again, big 1375 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:26,600 Speaker 1: up again, swift from the head. You gotta pick up 1376 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: slip the right way. That's right. I gotta bigger my brother, 1377 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 1: fu you to connector got the motherfucker. I gotta bring 1378 01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:42,840 Speaker 1: up my motherfucking brother. He nixed from Black Brega's bomb. 1379 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,160 Speaker 1: So so so the floor's yours and I'm sorry, Holy 1380 01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 1: morning morning, I'm so happy. Really. Okay, So what we 1381 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,800 Speaker 1: was going he was that we was with Janet and 1382 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 1: then he was going somewhere else, right, I think he 1383 01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: was going to Mariah. Yes, okay, So here's a crazy ship. 1384 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,240 Speaker 1: What he did that you conduct in this interview. I 1385 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: like that he's the conduct conducted, But your name is 1386 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 1: a conductor, bust. So listen. The crazy ship was. Maria 1387 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,960 Speaker 1: was different. But I'm gonna tell you why Mariot was different. 1388 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,880 Speaker 1: Because it was your turn in my opinion, looking from 1389 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,759 Speaker 1: the outside, and not to be selfish because the Maria 1390 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 1: record is not with you by yourself. Are we clear 1391 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:38,280 Speaker 1: on that? Very clear? This is the flip mold. Maybe 1392 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 1: would you give it to me? You know that was 1393 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,920 Speaker 1: what your food? What made you say? I had a 1394 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:58,639 Speaker 1: favor from my wire carry the princess from the outs 1395 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 1: of everywhere, the alps of everywhere. I didn't think of 1396 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 1: anything else. She's she's so so rutiful person. She's an angel. 1397 01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:20,559 Speaker 1: Like every Christmas Carol should be heard. She needs to 1398 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:30,759 Speaker 1: use that as well. In my mind, carry out yourself. 1399 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,559 Speaker 1: I take my carrying favo dolo what you said, Let 1400 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: me put my who. Let me be honest. I made 1401 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 1: the record with my crew before we called Mariah. Because no, 1402 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 1: she was never playing B. She was always she was 1403 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,800 Speaker 1: always playing A. But see, the collective of all of 1404 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 1: us was the plan A. If the collective of all 1405 01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,400 Speaker 1: of us didn't work, then I would have had to 1406 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,600 Speaker 1: create a plan B. So it was always planning A. 1407 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,120 Speaker 1: So me and Spliff was on the toy bus because 1408 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:12,760 Speaker 1: there was a period of time for like four years. Yeah, 1409 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,840 Speaker 1: we just did. I mean, I need some water over 1410 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:23,679 Speaker 1: because now I gotta start so so me and splif 1411 01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 1: there was a period of time I just refused to 1412 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 1: ride on the plane commercially. And I also like from 1413 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 1: childhood days. You know a week as children, you riding 1414 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: on a car, you had it in the car. You're 1415 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 1: in a parkway and those long, little semi long drives 1416 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 1: on the parkway. As a kid, that ship was relaxing. 1417 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 1: The fucking engine humming and the fucking just the coasting 1418 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,920 Speaker 1: on the park where you ain't stopping and going with 1419 01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,280 Speaker 1: traffic lights. Ship. You know, I'm talking about just regular 1420 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 1: driving and the car with you. I don't you know 1421 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,040 Speaker 1: it's a child ow you know the way the way 1422 01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: I grew up, I always loved being a car, just 1423 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,640 Speaker 1: being driven by my my father. I fall asleep in 1424 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,240 Speaker 1: the car every time I'm with my father driving. And 1425 01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, when we're on the Parkway and we're driving 1426 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 1: me going to visit family and Queens or we're going 1427 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 1: to visit family among allan from Brooklyn, that ship just 1428 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,439 Speaker 1: was relaxing to me. So I fall asleep all the time. Yeah, 1429 01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,679 Speaker 1: it was safe, it was comfortable, and it was soothing 1430 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,400 Speaker 1: between the music on the radio and the motherfucking feeling 1431 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,640 Speaker 1: of the car moving at seventy miles per hour and 1432 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,880 Speaker 1: the fucking engine humming right, and she was relaxing for me. 1433 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 1: So I really appreciated being on tour buses, you know 1434 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That led to me being able to 1435 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,920 Speaker 1: really enjoy relaxed time that I never really got the 1436 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to enjoy because we're grinding so much. You feel me. 1437 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,400 Speaker 1: You get on the toy bus, there's only one of 1438 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,040 Speaker 1: two things to do. You can watch a shipload of TV, 1439 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:20,679 Speaker 1: all right, or you go to sleep listen to music. 1440 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 1: I took advantage of that ship and rested a lot 1441 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,680 Speaker 1: driving from New York to l A. And I had 1442 01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,720 Speaker 1: two days. Now I had two phenomenal bus drivers. I 1443 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 1: would get to l A in thirty eight hours. Wow, 1444 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:43,639 Speaker 1: some flights. Let's make goings for MA and Cisco. Real quick, 1445 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:55,360 Speaker 1: rested piece of Cisco. What should I go? Gold? Now? 1446 01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:00,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely with the rose? All right, you permission about that? 1447 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:06,920 Speaker 1: Lets so as we drive course country, we obviously listened 1448 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,679 Speaker 1: to the beats, were getting beat packed from a fucker's 1449 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,240 Speaker 1: left and right. Rick Rock sends us the Mariah b 1450 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,040 Speaker 1: pick up the Rick Rock Bob salute the Rick Rock 1451 01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: salute the Mr uh Rick Rock real quick, and and 1452 01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,000 Speaker 1: and when he sent the beat, me and Spliff, we're 1453 01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,840 Speaker 1: on the tour bus and we're going through beats, and 1454 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, we might blaze the tree and sip a 1455 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 1: little yak or whatever. At the time when I was 1456 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,760 Speaker 1: drinking the brown and were riding across the country and 1457 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,720 Speaker 1: the beat come on, and we're humming this melody to 1458 01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,080 Speaker 1: govern and ship. And then I came up with the 1459 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,640 Speaker 1: words to it. And then mme and Spliff was just 1460 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: locking in on that ship. He was like, this is it. 1461 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: Me and Spliff came up with our verses. First song 1462 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,760 Speaker 1: starts we get home. We were called the ship. We 1463 01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,759 Speaker 1: called flip mode and they hit our verses. These niggers 1464 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:04,679 Speaker 1: want in rampage, get busy. I did. Get busy, baby sham, 1465 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 1: get busy. Lord Have Mercy wasn't too much into the 1466 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 1: chick records because Lord A Mercy he liked to beat 1467 01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,160 Speaker 1: your head and on some some dully ship. That's the 1468 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:23,280 Speaker 1: Lord Have Mercy, Thank you brother. So so basically the 1469 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,000 Speaker 1: song gets done. We sent it to the Queen Mariah. 1470 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 1: She's with all the smoke. She don't come to the 1471 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 1: studio like Danne did. Well, now we we didn't. We didn't. 1472 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 1: This is when the technology is you can send the 1473 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,759 Speaker 1: record now. Yeah, but it was the same ship with Janet. 1474 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,080 Speaker 1: We just needed to be in the same room. Um, 1475 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 1: but it was a different time because the Mariah ship 1476 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,760 Speaker 1: came in. Oh, we put it out an O three. 1477 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 1: We recorded it a No. Two. The Janet record was 1478 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:55,519 Speaker 1: recorded in. It's two different time, friends, you know what 1479 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And technology definitely an advanced significant need by 1480 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:04,160 Speaker 1: the time we got around to the Mariah joint. But 1481 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,560 Speaker 1: you heard this song and fell in love with it. 1482 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact that we big up Mariah 1483 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:19,840 Speaker 1: Carry right character. I'm not gonna lie Maria Carry or 1484 01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: Janet come here. I know that my niggas is gonna 1485 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,400 Speaker 1: slip their chair when they get me, they get up. 1486 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't even to put that out there first. I'm 1487 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 1: going out there, man, so after the year, you might 1488 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:36,120 Speaker 1: need to win. I haven't been doing out there in jail. 1489 01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:43,160 Speaker 1: Some cheers now they'll never come. You sunked it up, man, 1490 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,200 Speaker 1: I sunked it up. You suck up, damn man. I'm sorry. 1491 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 1: That's why girls ain't coming to drink. Champ Yeah, that's why. Man, 1492 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna spive some chairs. Man's absolutely want we come 1493 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,320 Speaker 1: to drink. Make sure you're right, make sure you just 1494 01:43:54,479 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 1: really clean. You're gonna I don't know, I listen to you. 1495 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,519 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the Queen Mariah jumped 1496 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: on the record and it turned out to be magical. 1497 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 1: But now let me ask you. But she could have 1498 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 1: easily say, your boss fucking with you? I know who 1499 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,439 Speaker 1: Spiff is. Yeah, I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna 1500 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,720 Speaker 1: be but healthy or why am I? Part of you know, 1501 01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,760 Speaker 1: the establishment of that has to be the respect, Yes, 1502 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 1: for you. I think it was a combination of things. 1503 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,120 Speaker 1: The first thing, obviously is the respect and love we 1504 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 1: got for each other. That goes without saying I don't 1505 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,200 Speaker 1: think that we even entertain anything without loving and respecting 1506 01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:41,479 Speaker 1: each other, especially at the stage we were both steaming, 1507 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that like in a very 1508 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:50,880 Speaker 1: serious way at that time. But secondly, you can't front 1509 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:56,919 Speaker 1: on an undeniable feeling. When the ship is a smash, 1510 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:01,599 Speaker 1: it's a smash from the actual record. Yes, that's what's 1511 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:06,400 Speaker 1: it's like. Let's go back to the reagonomics. Serra A 1512 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:12,639 Speaker 1: lot of crack, A lot of crack. Right. You pull 1513 01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: up out of town and you want the fee to 1514 01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 1: let all of the custodys know you're back in town 1515 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,000 Speaker 1: because you're from out of town. You give the fee 1516 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:27,800 Speaker 1: a sample, tell them that they friends taste it. You 1517 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: ain't gotta talk with the night hour with a two. 1518 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:38,000 Speaker 1: The fiends just lined up down the block. You're gonna bubble, okay, cool. 1519 01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 1: The product will speak for itself. When you got that ship, 1520 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 1: it's going to sell itself. My mom and barbecue walking 1521 01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,479 Speaker 1: here with pop bott it's missing child. You need different. 1522 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why you're coming. That's just there like 1523 01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,000 Speaker 1: he floss it. I don't know what's your problem about 1524 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:05,519 Speaker 1: the no. I'm like, I'm sorry, but he just I 1525 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:20,280 Speaker 1: don't know why he was so again that the queen. 1526 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 1: She heard the record and obviously she got a trillion 1527 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:28,240 Speaker 1: number ones. She didn't sold two hundred million, three hundred 1528 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,680 Speaker 1: million records. She know what the hit is, but I 1529 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: mean she didn't question it. But absolutely not. But still 1530 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,880 Speaker 1: a hit with a established artist and a hit, what's 1531 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,120 Speaker 1: what people that's not established? It's a risk, right, But 1532 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:48,840 Speaker 1: a hit is a hit. Damn, but a hit. She 1533 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 1: heard it. She heard it, she envisioned it, she heard it. 1534 01:46:52,439 --> 01:47:04,200 Speaker 1: Thank you to your fact. There was no convincing her. No, 1535 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, she's a woman of music and she ain't scared. 1536 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,400 Speaker 1: You see, Mariya ain't got no problem working with and 1537 01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,040 Speaker 1: she's him. Bro. She went and got with Old dB 1538 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 1: before a lot of armb artists. And this is what 1539 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,759 Speaker 1: d did when he was a troublemaker. Yeah, he's throwing 1540 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 1: speakers and killing she she she went and God, thank 1541 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,479 Speaker 1: you bro. She want to get old about five back 1542 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:36,400 Speaker 1: then because he's a dig of his nose. You're crazy, yo, Na, Yeah, 1543 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:42,000 Speaker 1: taking this ship too far, that's bast ship and the ship. 1544 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,759 Speaker 1: That's why he did it in state property, that ship 1545 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,280 Speaker 1: and state problem. That's because of seeing a lot when 1546 01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 1: he was cooking, when he was cooking, when he was cooking, 1547 01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,880 Speaker 1: that's my scene because Dave was like, you know, you know, 1548 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,400 Speaker 1: Old DVS like, I never gave Old DP five by 1549 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: my life, and it's like because every time I see 1550 01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:59,360 Speaker 1: though I don't know if he did it to me 1551 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 1: on burgers, you probably did, because like you know, old 1552 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,880 Speaker 1: was crazy. I was sorry, but in a great way, 1553 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,479 Speaker 1: but I was sorry. O. D B was one of 1554 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:13,240 Speaker 1: the first artists that she decided to feel like. I 1555 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,360 Speaker 1: love him and you OLDB had a crazy one. My 1556 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:22,360 Speaker 1: brother out of Control. No, that's my brother. O dB 1557 01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,000 Speaker 1: is on my new album Extinction Level Event to the 1558 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:44,679 Speaker 1: rap of God you you held it this long? Yes, Yes, 1559 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 1: o d B. A song unique, Big Baby Jesus Dirk 1560 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 1: McGurk the God and let me tell you something about 1561 01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:02,519 Speaker 1: a song unique, I would say n Leaders in the 1562 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 1: New School before we put out The Future Without a 1563 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,599 Speaker 1: Pass album at ninety one, we performed at this venue 1564 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 1: called hot Rod in Manhattan, down on the West Side Highway. 1565 01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,519 Speaker 1: It was an event for the five percent Nation of 1566 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 1: the Gods and Nerves and hot Rock was a venue 1567 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,760 Speaker 1: with a piece of the Gods and Nerves. Hot Rock 1568 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 1: was a video earlier. No, we're not picking up nothing, man, 1569 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:48,800 Speaker 1: I think it made me earlier. Now ruin hot Rod, 1570 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:53,360 Speaker 1: We're so. This is a venue where you can come 1571 01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,519 Speaker 1: inside and sit down and eat drink. But the tables 1572 01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,960 Speaker 1: are set up where it's like you have have these 1573 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:05,880 Speaker 1: old school cars from the sixties and you sit down 1574 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,600 Speaker 1: in these little dining area where the tables that you 1575 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,040 Speaker 1: were sitting at had like old school cars. You sit down, 1576 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 1: you eat all your food. It was kind of like 1577 01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,840 Speaker 1: some males dining ship, just a little more sophisticated and 1578 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,720 Speaker 1: sexy because they had the old school cars as the 1579 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,559 Speaker 1: areas where you sit up. Johnny rockets and Johnny Rocks. 1580 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of like the boat for the Right, 1581 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,560 Speaker 1: because they both had similar things. This was just a 1582 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,760 Speaker 1: little more elaborate than that because they would actually have 1583 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,400 Speaker 1: the cars the cars, and you would sit in the 1584 01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:42,080 Speaker 1: areas of the cars and eat. Now, the Jess before 1585 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: he was the Jesse was just a genius. Genius when 1586 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:50,639 Speaker 1: he was Prince Rock King, big Daddy came. Yeah, Prince Rock, 1587 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: Big Daddy came, lead us in a new school. Might 1588 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:08,040 Speaker 1: have been positive k and uh was it poor rats? No, 1589 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,960 Speaker 1: it might have been poor righteous teachers. I'm could be 1590 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:19,680 Speaker 1: mistaken or eating at the spot or performing. So this 1591 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,320 Speaker 1: was an event that was specifically organized by I promoted 1592 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 1: at was a part of the fi pers the Nation 1593 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,759 Speaker 1: of the Gods and Earths. We do the show, we finished, 1594 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:38,200 Speaker 1: everybody leaving, we get outside, we're in front of the venue. 1595 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 1: The building session had to start perform. Motherfuckers could go home. 1596 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,400 Speaker 1: So everybody that was in the Nation of the Five 1597 01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:53,320 Speaker 1: percent anybody was in the Fipers, the nation of the 1598 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 1: Gods and earths. Excuse me, had to partake in the 1599 01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:07,560 Speaker 1: building session, all right, Rizard is old, dirty bastard. It 1600 01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of like was the ones that took charge of 1601 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:15,680 Speaker 1: the building session. Just like all three of them is 1602 01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,000 Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. This is pre Stating Island. And if they 1603 01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: was Rocket and Staton Alan yet it wasn't disclosed to us, 1604 01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,160 Speaker 1: but I knew them from the Brooklyn history. Whoever phone 1605 01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:35,320 Speaker 1: that needs to be put on, whoever phone that is going, No, 1606 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:40,479 Speaker 1: this is actually west Side Highway, Manhattan. So in the 1607 01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:44,880 Speaker 1: building session, we're dealing with the day's degrees and we're 1608 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:49,760 Speaker 1: going through degrees and lessons depending on whatever lessons he 1609 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:55,000 Speaker 1: was dealing with. I'm gonna tell you right now, as 1610 01:52:55,120 --> 01:53:00,439 Speaker 1: crazy as you say, oh dirty Basht is, there really 1611 01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:05,719 Speaker 1: wasn't nothing crazy about him. Crazy needs to be changed 1612 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:14,720 Speaker 1: to calculate it. Understand, the god was very calculated. See, 1613 01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:19,599 Speaker 1: a dumb nigger can't act like a smart nigger. I mean, 1614 01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,439 Speaker 1: smart nigga can act like a dumb crazy on some 1615 01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,679 Speaker 1: other nigger. So a song knew exactly what he was doing. 1616 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: When it was time to build. He was one of 1617 01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,519 Speaker 1: the swiftest and the most sharpest guards that I haven't 1618 01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:40,160 Speaker 1: met in my life, a man who went twenty in 1619 01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:42,720 Speaker 1: a profound way. I just want to be clear for 1620 01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,920 Speaker 1: the fast you just call the a song. I just 1621 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,599 Speaker 1: want to just just for the fast that's going over 1622 01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 1: the head to my old dirty bass. I'm talking about 1623 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,000 Speaker 1: all dirty basket. And if you go back to Brooklyn Zoo. 1624 01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 1: He says his acute a son. See we say a 1625 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: song because it was spelled a s o n. Your 1626 01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:02,559 Speaker 1: son's name is spelled s o n, But it really 1627 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,680 Speaker 1: was s u n A son a son because you 1628 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 1: called your son a s o n. But you also 1629 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,719 Speaker 1: call the son that shine in the sky the brightest 1630 01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:16,519 Speaker 1: as you n a son. I keep playing it in 1631 01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,720 Speaker 1: all of it. So he was basically giving you the 1632 01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,360 Speaker 1: signs when he gave me a lunchline. I'm the foundation 1633 01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 1: of the solar system. I'm the foundation of my family 1634 01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 1: because the original man is symbolic to the sun. That's knowledge. 1635 01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:38,640 Speaker 1: Knowledge is the key to all aspects. Black man is 1636 01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,000 Speaker 1: the foundation of his family. So if the foundation of 1637 01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 1: the solar system, it's the son and the son of 1638 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,280 Speaker 1: symbolic to the original man, who was the Agadic black 1639 01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,200 Speaker 1: Band and make it only the cream of the planet 1640 01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,080 Speaker 1: for the civilization and god of the universe. Then the 1641 01:54:52,120 --> 01:55:04,080 Speaker 1: black Man is the foundation of his family. Now we're 1642 01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna go from that to a son unique the god 1643 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,440 Speaker 1: old dirty Bassy that y'all know, and that level of 1644 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:16,040 Speaker 1: science that he was so swift with. I knew him 1645 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:20,640 Speaker 1: from back then, and I bear witness to him back then, 1646 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,840 Speaker 1: being one of the swiftest gods that I've ever seen 1647 01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,200 Speaker 1: when they came to the science and building with the 1648 01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,720 Speaker 1: air likes, and the air likes is the other gods 1649 01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:35,640 Speaker 1: and the Earth's and the Earth saw the women. That 1650 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,680 Speaker 1: was a part of the five presentation of the gods 1651 01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:41,919 Speaker 1: and Earth. And the way he commanded those building sessions, 1652 01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:48,640 Speaker 1: and the way that he corrected those that wasn't the 1653 01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,640 Speaker 1: swift with the science, and the way he held those 1654 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 1: accountable that said that they bid witness to certain degrees 1655 01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,840 Speaker 1: and dealt with certain degrees that they were not dealing with, 1656 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,760 Speaker 1: were in such a profound aesthetic that I thought that 1657 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:08,240 Speaker 1: he was avenger and a superhero, you know what I mean, 1658 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:13,760 Speaker 1: Because the contrast of him being so crazy as an 1659 01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 1: artist but being such a PhD in a scholar with 1660 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:22,880 Speaker 1: high science with some other ship. It was a testament 1661 01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 1: to how brill of a mind he was so all 1662 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,120 Speaker 1: that digging up your own ship and things that you 1663 01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,400 Speaker 1: were saying he was doing. He was doing that, but 1664 01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:39,640 Speaker 1: he was very calculated and and I got so many 1665 01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,920 Speaker 1: stories about the God. Man, it's gonna turn into an 1666 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:46,280 Speaker 1: old dirty bass to drink Champs. Man. I appreciate what 1667 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just loved that brother. I love his family. 1668 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,600 Speaker 1: Piece to the Queen is Selene, his son, young dirty 1669 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:59,240 Speaker 1: Bass and his beautiful daughters. And just look forward to 1670 01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,680 Speaker 1: the unbelief evil will collap me and the God got 1671 01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 1: produced by the incredible Knots on not told. That's another 1672 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,240 Speaker 1: thing with you, boss, is when you you know, Jay Dealers, 1673 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:27,600 Speaker 1: the Knots like you always seem to kind of find 1674 01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,160 Speaker 1: like the underground. Like you you know how to balance 1675 01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,960 Speaker 1: having a commercial record for lack of a better term, 1676 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,120 Speaker 1: and what is called a commercial record, but then you 1677 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:42,240 Speaker 1: also to learn how to balance the underground underground of 1678 01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Jay Dealers and the knots Is and 1679 01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 1: all this. What do you do you do? What do 1680 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:57,360 Speaker 1: you what kind of email you got of like yeah, 1681 01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,320 Speaker 1: it was like how do you be finding out who 1682 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 1: the next producer is? Because I remember when you messed 1683 01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:08,000 Speaker 1: with J Diller and nobody really understanding what you were doing, Like, 1684 01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,800 Speaker 1: how did you get onto J? Yeah, my big brother 1685 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:21,120 Speaker 1: Q Tip que Tip introduced J Diller to all of us. VACU. 1686 01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:28,240 Speaker 1: You respect that VACU. Oh that's the I couldn't get 1687 01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:44,960 Speaker 1: that's the work at all Enix you were saying something Wow, WHOA. 1688 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:59,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, you king, and Enix was the producer 1689 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:12,760 Speaker 1: manager at Violator. I'm gonna get into that. I'm Enis 1690 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,800 Speaker 1: Enis and this is how the dots connect. That's why 1691 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm so beautiful that you had Enicks and now I'm 1692 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:23,040 Speaker 1: here and he's here, So this is divine ship. So 1693 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:29,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is bro was the producer manager 1694 01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,120 Speaker 1: and A and A and he was the producer manager 1695 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:38,120 Speaker 1: on Violet. The management he was a A our Violator records. 1696 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 1: See these two different executive titles in one infrastructure, but 1697 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:50,360 Speaker 1: distinguishably different job responsibilities. See, he had to help producers 1698 01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,800 Speaker 1: place their hits from the management side. He had to 1699 01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:59,640 Speaker 1: find the hits on the and and our side completely done. 1700 02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,120 Speaker 1: He had to get the beats, then get this artist 1701 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 1: to queet it. It's so when he came to the 1702 02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 1: A and our side, he had to bring the songs 1703 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:17,200 Speaker 1: complete on the n our side, So that's out of Violet. 1704 02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:21,000 Speaker 1: The album got done with him. So you know, all 1705 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 1: of our records, he chose those. It had to go 1706 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,360 Speaker 1: through his judgment call. If he ain't sanction it. He 1707 02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,160 Speaker 1: wasn't on that. You hear it. You know what I'm saying, 1708 02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:36,960 Speaker 1: So right it is right now, same session, nigger, God, 1709 02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:43,560 Speaker 1: damn it, shout out. I was had a little room 1710 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,680 Speaker 1: and I was in the room next door that I'm 1711 02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:54,400 Speaker 1: not I was not coming. I was like, why about here? 1712 02:00:54,440 --> 02:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I didn't. But but boats we both we both got 1713 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,880 Speaker 1: put in the same studio session in d at the 1714 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,800 Speaker 1: same time because of him and Chris and they was 1715 02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:10,920 Speaker 1: both in the studio with us in one room and 1716 02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:15,600 Speaker 1: the grinding all the room and both both records was 1717 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 1: produced by an original video. The original video was in 1718 02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:29,600 Speaker 1: l A. Yes, yes, hy Williams did that. Yes, Yes 1719 02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,040 Speaker 1: he didn't grind me too, Yes he didn't grab me. 1720 02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:45,880 Speaker 1: They stick. Yes, I'm remember how many years ago this was. 1721 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:49,440 Speaker 1: But I'm checking into what's the White Boy Hotel? That's 1722 02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,680 Speaker 1: right by like Jimmy Kimball one of those ships with 1723 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,280 Speaker 1: the Roseman Hotel. So I'm checking in and the guys like, 1724 02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,760 Speaker 1: what's up Nor he got his beard. It's like he 1725 02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,440 Speaker 1: fucking had a skate board and a skiboard at the 1726 02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:06,800 Speaker 1: same time. Skiboard it was like Wills like it was 1727 02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:08,920 Speaker 1: skiing or some ship. I was like it was a 1728 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,760 Speaker 1: wasp board. And I'm like I didn't even know how 1729 02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:14,680 Speaker 1: to tell him, like, you know, you bought me for 1730 02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:20,400 Speaker 1: a million dollars, it's all. I'm just a great guys 1731 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,880 Speaker 1: like you want to drink. It was like it makes 1732 02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 1: you back downstairs and I had to go to Jimmy Kimble. 1733 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:31,720 Speaker 1: This is good talking, all right? Put only money mony now, 1734 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:43,720 Speaker 1: bust Man, did you go to a karati class right 1735 02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,280 Speaker 1: to teach stick? It's like how to keep energy on stage? 1736 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Like that's like, I don't know that. That's like a 1737 02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:00,840 Speaker 1: different type of art what you're doing. It is martial art. Bro. 1738 02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I know I told you earlier, but you are spent 1739 02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:06,840 Speaker 1: for you staying with That was the fact feeder rap. 1740 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,560 Speaker 1: But it's like a certain energy that you coming out 1741 02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and we went to we went to West Indian and 1742 02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:21,240 Speaker 1: we went to West Indian upbringing high school, naked junior 1743 02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: high school and eventual school name. That's what the funk 1744 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:29,520 Speaker 1: we went to. Me and Spliff, I'm a Jamaican nigga. 1745 02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Here trinit Daddy and nigga. My bro Webb is a 1746 02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:44,840 Speaker 1: guy and these naked ya got the United Continue. DJ 1747 02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Scratch Tour is a Beliegian. My whole crew was Caribbean name. 1748 02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Hip hop was given birth to Bye Caribbean culture, Jamaica 1749 02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:05,200 Speaker 1: birth to hip hop tables without hip hop, he's a 1750 02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:27,000 Speaker 1: yard man, Jamaican yard don't do that right now. So 1751 02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:30,920 Speaker 1: so so you know, with with that being said, we 1752 02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:38,560 Speaker 1: do have to understand that there's a lost history that 1753 02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:46,640 Speaker 1: is being significantly neglected by everyone in hip hop as 1754 02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:51,360 Speaker 1: far as research is concerned. Nobody thinks to go to 1755 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the West Indian culture to acknowledge how the birth of 1756 02:04:55,880 --> 02:05:01,320 Speaker 1: this culture was even conceived. And I think that that's 1757 02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,200 Speaker 1: something that I take great pride in being able to 1758 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:11,080 Speaker 1: bring to the forefront on this Drink Champs platform, because 1759 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,880 Speaker 1: there ain't no other place more deemed appropriacy. We all 1760 02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:23,760 Speaker 1: New York niggas in Miami. You know, at the end 1761 02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:29,200 Speaker 1: of the day, Miami is the segue did you make it? 1762 02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,480 Speaker 1: When they get on that boat. If they can't get 1763 02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:37,720 Speaker 1: on the plane, where is the port that they enter America? Miami? 1764 02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:42,240 Speaker 1: The Port of Miami. All the immigrants that can't get 1765 02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:45,160 Speaker 1: on the plane, they're coming in by boat to Miami. 1766 02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:49,920 Speaker 1: You're the direct conduit. So I don't even gotta say that, 1767 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,680 Speaker 1: but I do have to acknowledge that part because what 1768 02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I was getting to is the birthplace of hip hop. 1769 02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:00,920 Speaker 1: You're the segue to a lot out of the families 1770 02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,720 Speaker 1: that had the goal to New York to actually find 1771 02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:11,000 Speaker 1: home home. New York is the moltenpot more than any 1772 02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:14,800 Speaker 1: other city in the entire United States for Caribbean culture, 1773 02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Trinidaddy and Belgian incension, Trinidaddy and Guyanese, every fucking thing 1774 02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:29,680 Speaker 1: is in the Five Boroughs concentrated more than any other 1775 02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:33,520 Speaker 1: city in the entire United States. So with that being said, 1776 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:39,320 Speaker 1: when I say what I'm saying, my point is with 1777 02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,160 Speaker 1: New York being the birthplace in the Five Boroughs, No, 1778 02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the Bronx in particularly love, I love my family, Salute 1779 02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:57,760 Speaker 1: m R W the fucking Mike both. You know, I 1780 02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:02,520 Speaker 1: love y'all. Chick Bank already talk to you outside, you 1781 02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:05,400 Speaker 1: in the general of the motherfucking movement. Come on there, 1782 02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:09,440 Speaker 1: we we're talking about We're talking about now you know, listen, 1783 02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the most significant and neglected component about the history and 1784 02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the research of hip hop. It's its origin. Wow, we 1785 02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:24,960 Speaker 1: got to start changing that narrative. We can't just keep 1786 02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,240 Speaker 1: saying cool Hurd gave birth to it. Jamaica gave birth 1787 02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:32,640 Speaker 1: to it by way of cool Hurd fact through the Bronx, 1788 02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:47,280 Speaker 1: through the Bronxx. So ain't nobody say ain't nobody is 1789 02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:50,560 Speaker 1: saying that. Ain't nobody is saying that. Nobody's gotta be 1790 02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,400 Speaker 1: nobody has to be said on the record. Oh, I 1791 02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:58,560 Speaker 1: do need to address this to my brother James Cruz 1792 02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,440 Speaker 1: said that part of Rikans was guest in hip hop 1793 02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Latinos in general. Let's just say all of us correct, definitely, 1794 02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:14,520 Speaker 1: can I can? I cannot know it's not the way 1795 02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:18,000 Speaker 1: with word it is, okay, But I mean, I'm just 1796 02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:19,680 Speaker 1: going on the clip that I saw, and I didn't 1797 02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:21,280 Speaker 1: see the whole thing. And I spoke to my brother 1798 02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:23,120 Speaker 1: James Cruz and he told me there was a whole 1799 02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:28,120 Speaker 1: thing that was missing from the clip. Cool I'm saying 1800 02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 1: it's on the record. If this is going to be 1801 02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:36,880 Speaker 1: used as a clip Latino on a hole, I am 1802 02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:41,160 Speaker 1: not speaking for that. I'm speaking for Puerto Rican people, 1803 02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:48,800 Speaker 1: which is Latino. So it's conducive, big words. I like it. 1804 02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. It's hip hop high school all winter, Puerto 1805 02:08:54,120 --> 02:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Rican and black people, right, sorry, take you away, please 1806 02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:06,440 Speaker 1: please please please keep going because you're going to. I 1807 02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:08,520 Speaker 1: don't want to suck it up. I just to tell 1808 02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:18,640 Speaker 1: about amazing high school. It's a magazine program, get scholarships, 1809 02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:31,160 Speaker 1: hip hop university summary just around. That's like that. But yeah, 1810 02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans and Blacks created hip hop period. Speaks a 1811 02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:51,320 Speaker 1: noise for that too. But my real place before and 1812 02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:53,800 Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong. Based on what you're saying. 1813 02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:58,440 Speaker 1: Us as a DJ, we all, I mean, I think 1814 02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:01,920 Speaker 1: most DJs, no, there wouldn't have be hip hop. There 1815 02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:08,360 Speaker 1: would not be two turntables without Jamaican culture. To what 1816 02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hip hop is an embodiment of five elements. 1817 02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:18,920 Speaker 1: It ain't just DJing and wrapping. That's a component in 1818 02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:24,920 Speaker 1: hip hop culture. Two significant components just too though actually no, 1819 02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:29,880 Speaker 1: it's not just true. It's true, and it's the most 1820 02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:37,120 Speaker 1: significant components because everything else came as a spinoff of 1821 02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:40,600 Speaker 1: that microphone and them two turntables, So it's the foundation. 1822 02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,720 Speaker 1: So cou Hirk still gets his credit as being the 1823 02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:47,120 Speaker 1: one who spearheaded the birth of the culture. But when 1824 02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:49,879 Speaker 1: I said it was created by Puerto Ricans and blacks, 1825 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:55,879 Speaker 1: is because co Hurricane create breakdancing graffiti. He ain't create graffiti. 1826 02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans had a lot to do with that part, 1827 02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:03,760 Speaker 1: and that part is what helped create the embodiment of 1828 02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:07,920 Speaker 1: all of the five elements becomes a culture. Popping, breakdance 1829 02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:14,400 Speaker 1: and DJing and seeing and graffiti the five elements that 1830 02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:18,440 Speaker 1: gave birth to the entire culture. And to this day 1831 02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:22,080 Speaker 1: nothing has been added to it, or taken away from 1832 02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:28,080 Speaker 1: it or changed it. It is the and all says all, 1833 02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:34,400 Speaker 1: And that's an underspeak. The truth and truth don't change, 1834 02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,080 Speaker 1: only lives do. So anybody that want to talk different 1835 02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:42,320 Speaker 1: from that is a liar. Sorry, and I'm the last 1836 02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:46,560 Speaker 1: one you could argue with. My history is too long, 1837 02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:50,080 Speaker 1: through my work and through my action, and that ain't 1838 02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:52,480 Speaker 1: even speaking about the research that I had to invest 1839 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:55,720 Speaker 1: before I actually had the opportunity to show it through 1840 02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:59,879 Speaker 1: my action. So twenty nine years is my professional recording, 1841 02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:03,120 Speaker 1: real legacy. If I started adding the numbers of the 1842 02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:05,160 Speaker 1: research that I had to do before I even was 1843 02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:10,960 Speaker 1: allowed to bless opportunity to confessionally, you know that you 1844 02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:12,920 Speaker 1: might have might you might have taken the thirty five 1845 02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:17,120 Speaker 1: thirty eight years it took me seven eight years was 1846 02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:19,600 Speaker 1: to research and figure this ship out before I actually 1847 02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:23,080 Speaker 1: got on. You feel me? So all I'm saying is 1848 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,560 Speaker 1: I ain't got no time for that debate. It's a 1849 02:12:28,640 --> 02:12:32,600 Speaker 1: pointless debate with bust rhymes. It's just to me. Just 1850 02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,080 Speaker 1: share the information and you take the ship and apply 1851 02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:38,080 Speaker 1: it the way you suppost, like, let's do this shot please? 1852 02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:52,760 Speaker 1: You know who? I'm so serious about that because I 1853 02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:55,760 Speaker 1: see how mad men you have spoke about doing a 1854 02:12:55,920 --> 02:13:03,000 Speaker 1: volley though something something about botolate that you see this, 1855 02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you see my sec No, no, no, look you see 1856 02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't make that. First of all, I love you 1857 02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:14,840 Speaker 1: for this. You see where this is going? Right? Okay? Cool? 1858 02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:18,080 Speaker 1: We had this conversation how long ago, not even not 1859 02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,280 Speaker 1: even except two hours ago? Right, And I see how 1860 02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:25,320 Speaker 1: emotion you got when we started to say, like a 1861 02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:29,920 Speaker 1: volley of the festival or volley that's something should be happening. Next, 1862 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:33,040 Speaker 1: you're getting confirmation nixt about my testament on this, bro, 1863 02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:39,840 Speaker 1: my sentiment on excuse me, it's foresight and and like 1864 02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:42,120 Speaker 1: I said, we're spoken to earlier, but now it's time 1865 02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:44,120 Speaker 1: to get back to it, like it's time to get deep. 1866 02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:48,440 Speaker 1: Because there's two things I want to ask you. One. 1867 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm retarded, maybe I'm crazy, but 1868 02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:01,080 Speaker 1: I still don't believe Chris like he kills itself. Wow, 1869 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:06,520 Speaker 1: you want to go there? Bro? I just can't my 1870 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:08,600 Speaker 1: naive can you can? I mean, this is this is 1871 02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:12,200 Speaker 1: therapy for me, buss. You know big dudes were hood therapy, 1872 02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:15,200 Speaker 1: but it's therapy for me, for me because I'm never 1873 02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:19,800 Speaker 1: really me and useful. Oh I can't. I just can't. 1874 02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:22,000 Speaker 1: I just can't, Bust. I mean, how many years has 1875 02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:26,400 Speaker 1: it been. It's just two thousand and twelve Chris passed 1876 02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:31,200 Speaker 1: right next? Oh that's August thirty, right, Yes, I just can't. 1877 02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, am I naive? Boss? No, you're not. There's 1878 02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of complexities with the way the information is 1879 02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:45,440 Speaker 1: circulated about is passing. I need you all to stop 1880 02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:50,480 Speaker 1: talking and I ain't really ain't asking again? Please please, please, please, please, 1881 02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:53,640 Speaker 1: please everybody really begging all of the spaces because we're 1882 02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,600 Speaker 1: he't going the place he's going to now with this conversation, 1883 02:14:57,320 --> 02:15:04,720 Speaker 1: it's a different type of emotional roller coach. Please okay, okay, Nori. 1884 02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:21,560 Speaker 1: So first thing first, right, I was with Chris to 1885 02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:27,240 Speaker 1: day before he died. I was on my first transformation journey. 1886 02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:32,560 Speaker 1: Chris saw me. I was in the best shape of 1887 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:38,800 Speaker 1: my life. Not as crazy as now, but I was 1888 02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:43,560 Speaker 1: for the first time. It was it was it looked 1889 02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:48,720 Speaker 1: like it magnified differently because it was the first time. Right, 1890 02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:52,120 Speaker 1: it's a Big Bang theory after Big This was right 1891 02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:59,160 Speaker 1: around the time that. No, it's my second time getting 1892 02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:02,320 Speaker 1: in shape, because I got in shape the first time 1893 02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:06,240 Speaker 1: for Big Bang, and that was oh six. Chris died 1894 02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:10,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve. This is my second time 1895 02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:20,680 Speaker 1: getting in shape. And Chris had merged with Michael Ovis 1896 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:22,040 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no, Michael 1897 02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Ovis Company, Downtown six Team Street with Celo Green was 1898 02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:37,600 Speaker 1: with them, UM Primary Way, Primary Waves Chris. Chris had 1899 02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:40,920 Speaker 1: merged with Primary Wave, and Blue was there Blue from 1900 02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:49,280 Speaker 1: from Family Tree. Um. I come to see Chris and 1901 02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:53,119 Speaker 1: for a few months before this particular moment that I'm 1902 02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:59,320 Speaker 1: talking about Chris Lody, who's going through a few issues. 1903 02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:05,920 Speaker 1: This is never I've never disclosed this, never spoke about this. 1904 02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:13,440 Speaker 1: Chris was having some issues and he wasn't really too 1905 02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:19,920 Speaker 1: articulate about what he was dealing with, but from the 1906 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:23,400 Speaker 1: outside looking and it was like he was going through 1907 02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:25,680 Speaker 1: some serious ship and he had to go to these 1908 02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:29,280 Speaker 1: retreats in Connecticut at least that's where I thought it was, 1909 02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:39,240 Speaker 1: but it was outside of New York and mh. Whatever 1910 02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:42,000 Speaker 1: he was going to do, it was to fix and 1911 02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:46,600 Speaker 1: help him find a different kind of resource to balance 1912 02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:51,959 Speaker 1: out his spiritual mental equilibrium. I don't really know exactly 1913 02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:53,480 Speaker 1: what it was that he was going through, but I 1914 02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:56,240 Speaker 1: know it was for the first time I've ever seen 1915 02:17:56,360 --> 02:17:59,959 Speaker 1: Chris since Russian Management days in eighty nine and nine. 1916 02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Indeed we started with him to that time frame, it 1917 02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:17,320 Speaker 1: was looking like chris spirit was broken. I was seeing 1918 02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Chris for the first time in a way that seemed 1919 02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:34,240 Speaker 1: like he was ghost. In the Shall you Know at 1920 02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:38,200 Speaker 1: Japanimation series, it looked like he was a ghost in 1921 02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the show. It was like he he was alive, but 1922 02:18:44,640 --> 02:19:00,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't alive right. UM, I would hearing things, I 1923 02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:04,000 Speaker 1: was seeing things. I ain't disclosing all of that on 1924 02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:08,560 Speaker 1: this interview, but what I do know is that what 1925 02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:16,320 Speaker 1: it was doing to him was it was It wasn't good, So, 1926 02:19:16,879 --> 02:19:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, criticism. He's a man's man, and I think 1927 02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:26,000 Speaker 1: a very challenging thing about our reality, especially as black man, 1928 02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:32,600 Speaker 1: is we're not really allowed to disclose vulnerability. You know 1929 02:19:32,640 --> 02:19:35,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You ain't really allowed to show weakness. 1930 02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:40,720 Speaker 1: And we also was living in a time and I 1931 02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:43,400 Speaker 1: ain't talking about them technology was a little different, but 1932 02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:48,680 Speaker 1: the standards wasn't. And when I say that, I'm saying 1933 02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:54,080 Speaker 1: that to say, you can't let another thing, you know, 1934 02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:56,760 Speaker 1: when you in a funded up situation, because that man 1935 02:19:56,879 --> 02:20:02,320 Speaker 1: might use that information against you. Oh so even when 1936 02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:08,320 Speaker 1: you really need help, reaching out to somebody for it's 1937 02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:16,680 Speaker 1: scary to do. And can you imagine what that was 1938 02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:19,480 Speaker 1: like for man that was responsible for making sure that 1939 02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:21,880 Speaker 1: we had all the help we needed when we needed it. 1940 02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:28,680 Speaker 1: He was our manager. He had to manage our lives, 1941 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:37,400 Speaker 1: neglecting managing his own. Who was managing his feel me? 1942 02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Who could he call to help him manage his But 1943 02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:51,360 Speaker 1: whenever we needed him, he helped us manage ours. That's 1944 02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:55,240 Speaker 1: a very scary place to be in. That's a very 1945 02:20:55,640 --> 02:21:04,119 Speaker 1: heavy place to be in. Daddy, he had me puff. 1946 02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Hey, Dave violated days. I'm talking 1947 02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:11,959 Speaker 1: about Primary Way Valley, the days he had me married 1948 02:21:12,120 --> 02:21:15,119 Speaker 1: and Diddy excuse me me, Mariah? And did he pick 1949 02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:21,120 Speaker 1: up to Mary J. Blige by the way everybody he 1950 02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:25,680 Speaker 1: had me? Maria? Did he? Nor were you? Still was 1951 02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:28,080 Speaker 1: there when during the primary wave or you you slid 1952 02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:32,800 Speaker 1: already Primary Way when the Primary Way was? Who valid 1953 02:21:32,879 --> 02:21:36,760 Speaker 1: e merged with when Valtor left twenty sixth Street, across 1954 02:21:36,840 --> 02:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the street from Henchman Entertainment. I never left, Okay, But 1955 02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I never seen Norway in the prim 1956 02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:48,760 Speaker 1: every Way. I still came back to got shot up. 1957 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:02,160 Speaker 1: So that's why I acts. But what But what I'm 1958 02:22:02,200 --> 02:22:07,160 Speaker 1: saying is fast forward with all of the ship that 1959 02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:11,440 Speaker 1: I was seeing on my bro which was concerning in itself. 1960 02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Who was but you look incredible? I want to come 1961 02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:25,360 Speaker 1: train with you? He has I'm talking about Chris. He 1962 02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:29,840 Speaker 1: wanted to come and train with me. He had an 1963 02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:34,440 Speaker 1: assistant that became a management rep for minds that I 1964 02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:36,840 Speaker 1: don't funk with. No more. But I'm not nasty. I'm 1965 02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:39,440 Speaker 1: not talking about this nagging pearl. I don't say his 1966 02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:42,960 Speaker 1: name to me, please, I know you ain't saying you 1967 02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:49,199 Speaker 1: ain't do nothing wrong. Yes, I'm not working with anything. 1968 02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:52,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about him, thank you. But he was cool 1969 02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:58,080 Speaker 1: at that time, all right, Chris, me and the book talk. 1970 02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Chris told Pat because gym closing the bag, to go 1971 02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:04,400 Speaker 1: train with me. The next day, Chris got in the 1972 02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:07,560 Speaker 1: car with me to take him to Grand Central Station 1973 02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:09,880 Speaker 1: to go pick up his daughter because he was coming 1974 02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:13,520 Speaker 1: home from college. It's the last day I've seen Chris. 1975 02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:19,119 Speaker 1: The next morning, I get a phone call nine something 1976 02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:24,480 Speaker 1: in the morning. I wasn't told that Chris is dead. 1977 02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I was told that something happened to Chris. Okay, sh 1978 02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:34,920 Speaker 1: happens to us all the time. What happened to Chris? 1979 02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:39,320 Speaker 1: We call Violator. I forget the young lady's name up 1980 02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:41,960 Speaker 1: at Violator that was working with us at the time 1981 02:23:42,120 --> 02:23:45,840 Speaker 1: in the Primary Wave offices when Violator had merged with 1982 02:23:45,920 --> 02:23:50,119 Speaker 1: Primarywain after they left twenty six streak between fifth and six. 1983 02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:54,879 Speaker 1: Spoke to the young lady on the phone. She was crying. 1984 02:23:55,520 --> 02:24:02,240 Speaker 1: She said, Chris hurt himself Okay, I get a call 1985 02:24:02,320 --> 02:24:07,879 Speaker 1: from on the Scott. She's crying too. On the Scott 1986 02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:12,640 Speaker 1: tells me something bad happened to Chris. You need to 1987 02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:25,360 Speaker 1: come now. I called Bro. You know, I don't want 1988 02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:27,240 Speaker 1: to talk to about the studs. I don't want to 1989 02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:30,960 Speaker 1: call his name, but I call this dude that was 1990 02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:34,840 Speaker 1: working as Chris's former assistant and became a young new 1991 02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:39,640 Speaker 1: management rep. I called him and said, look, I'm pulling 1992 02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,160 Speaker 1: up on you. I need you to come with me 1993 02:24:41,240 --> 02:24:47,000 Speaker 1: and take me to Chris Crib in the Bronx. He 1994 02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:51,200 Speaker 1: meet him in Manhattan. I've been to Chris Crib prior 1995 02:24:51,240 --> 02:24:55,360 Speaker 1: to that in the city. Never been to Chris Crib 1996 02:24:55,440 --> 02:24:59,400 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. Chris had a five million dollar crib 1997 02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:04,000 Speaker 1: in the city, two or three blocks away from the 1998 02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:10,800 Speaker 1: Volator office from Street. He lost that crib and went 1999 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:16,920 Speaker 1: back to the Bronx. Is that that is weird? Because again, 2000 02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:20,760 Speaker 1: this ship that went down that I can't get into 2001 02:25:20,879 --> 02:25:31,200 Speaker 1: on this camera with who he was fucking with, that 2002 02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:34,480 Speaker 1: regressed his hard work and his progress back to having 2003 02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:36,960 Speaker 1: to go to the Bronx from where he was at. 2004 02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:40,199 Speaker 1: He had a crib on Fifth five, Bro, it wasn't 2005 02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:42,879 Speaker 1: Fifth five. It was in the proximity. It was three 2006 02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:50,320 Speaker 1: or four blocks away from Violator Park AV. It wasn't 2007 02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:54,520 Speaker 1: on Park half King because Park AV went the other 2008 02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:57,360 Speaker 1: way towards the east from the valley to office. This 2009 02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:01,400 Speaker 1: ship was going towards the west from the valley to office. Yeah, 2010 02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:08,040 Speaker 1: but hear what I'm saying. Hear what I'm saying. Kaluated 2011 02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:11,160 Speaker 1: was a one way going towards the west side. Park 2012 02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:14,640 Speaker 1: AV was towards the east side. His crib was towards 2013 02:26:14,720 --> 02:26:17,480 Speaker 1: the west side. I believe it was off for sixth 2014 02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:22,040 Speaker 1: Avenue because that street went upwards, which was six and 2015 02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:27,160 Speaker 1: his crib was like two blocks away from off for 2016 02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:30,600 Speaker 1: six AV. It was a building to the right. Go inside. 2017 02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:35,200 Speaker 1: It was too multimillion dollar condos that he connected together 2018 02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:41,360 Speaker 1: as one and that became the five million dollar crib. Now, 2019 02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:50,400 Speaker 1: not to get too much into that. Chris ended up 2020 02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:55,640 Speaker 1: back in the bronx. And when we get to the crib, 2021 02:26:56,080 --> 02:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Chris was dead already. Yeah, he went to the house. 2022 02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I was at the house and I watched Chris body 2023 02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:07,880 Speaker 1: come out of the house in a black bag and 2024 02:27:08,080 --> 02:27:13,640 Speaker 1: put into a vehicle with no windows in it. Ambulance 2025 02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:23,760 Speaker 1: or corner vehicle. Excuse me, I saw that myself and 2026 02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:31,160 Speaker 1: I stood out there and I beefed with Mike Laddy, Mona, Scott, 2027 02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:38,680 Speaker 1: A B. Butler, some of the other Voletor members, the 2028 02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:45,039 Speaker 1: original Violator members, Chris Ali and the rest of them 2029 02:27:45,080 --> 02:27:50,959 Speaker 1: brothers about where was Chris Laddy's belongings gonna go? Because 2030 02:27:51,160 --> 02:27:54,840 Speaker 1: everybody from Chris side one of his belongings out of 2031 02:27:54,959 --> 02:27:57,840 Speaker 1: that house and taken to a storage place that they 2032 02:27:57,959 --> 02:28:04,600 Speaker 1: controlled the key of h and his widowed wife at 2033 02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the time was trying to fight that with her family. 2034 02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:24,120 Speaker 1: And this was a horrible day. This day was a 2035 02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:34,600 Speaker 1: day where what fox with me the most about this 2036 02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:46,240 Speaker 1: ship is because you know, being the first of all 2037 02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:51,200 Speaker 1: of the artists, Christ nevercame to my studio sessions. You 2038 02:28:51,360 --> 02:29:06,680 Speaker 1: feel me so Rish Chris. He started coming in my 2039 02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:09,960 Speaker 1: studio sessions in two thousand eleven. Mind you, I've been 2040 02:29:10,040 --> 02:29:13,080 Speaker 1: doing this with him since eight ninety. I signed my 2041 02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:18,320 Speaker 1: deal December fifty December twelfth, nine nine, when I was seventeen. 2042 02:29:18,400 --> 02:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm forty eight years old now, bro. So he 2043 02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:31,160 Speaker 1: never came to my studio sessions. So you know, I 2044 02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:33,840 Speaker 1: used to watch when all other incredible artists came to 2045 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:38,920 Speaker 1: the roster and he was moving around with them todays 2046 02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:40,680 Speaker 1: set up. No, he didn't set up none of my 2047 02:29:40,760 --> 02:29:43,840 Speaker 1: studio sessions, Chris. He had nothing to do with my 2048 02:29:43,879 --> 02:29:46,880 Speaker 1: studio sessions. Chris set up all of my incredible record deals. 2049 02:29:48,280 --> 02:29:50,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lot of buzz. I don't think 2050 02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:53,760 Speaker 1: you needed anybody. You were seven sounds, yeah, my manager 2051 02:29:53,879 --> 02:29:57,400 Speaker 1: I was I'm hands on sound tracks and they would 2052 02:29:57,400 --> 02:30:00,120 Speaker 1: be like, are you a buster? I'm like, jeez, littuise out. 2053 02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:02,760 Speaker 1: But that's my West Indian ship though, like you know, 2054 02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:08,440 Speaker 1: my mom's my mother. She um would take away any 2055 02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,160 Speaker 1: studio you ever, like, just rented any studio that I 2056 02:30:12,320 --> 02:30:15,000 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to work in. I'm booking my own session, 2057 02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm signing my own invoice on the POS and to 2058 02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:21,480 Speaker 1: this day, to this day, I'm paying for my own 2059 02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:31,280 Speaker 1: studio times yesterday. That's the motherfucker' fact. Get up. And 2060 02:30:31,400 --> 02:30:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like this, Nick Buss is gonna about to 2061 02:30:33,959 --> 02:30:40,200 Speaker 1: go to sleep. But Chris never came to my studio sessions. 2062 02:30:40,760 --> 02:30:44,240 Speaker 1: So to see when LLL and fifty and Missy and 2063 02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Naas and Mo but Nori and everybody came to this 2064 02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:51,560 Speaker 1: violate the family. And he was popping up two sessions 2065 02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:54,520 Speaker 1: and from the other artists from rostand and was a 2066 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:57,240 Speaker 1: buzzing coming to mind that that fucked with me. I'm 2067 02:30:57,280 --> 02:31:02,400 Speaker 1: not gonna lie and funsed with me. But the way 2068 02:31:02,440 --> 02:31:04,600 Speaker 1: I was raised was to not complain. It was just 2069 02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:06,960 Speaker 1: about doing what you needed to do to make the 2070 02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:11,120 Speaker 1: big homie pull up to your session, because nobody cares 2071 02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:16,680 Speaker 1: when you complain anyway, or nobody adn't listening to your complaints. 2072 02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:19,520 Speaker 1: They got a bunch of ship to complain about two 2073 02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:22,960 Speaker 1: but if they ain't burdened and you would they complaining? 2074 02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:24,960 Speaker 1: And what the fund you're gonna burden them with yours for? 2075 02:31:26,680 --> 02:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Do your job. So I tapped into a frequency somehow, 2076 02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:41,280 Speaker 1: the most high line of stars in the universe for 2077 02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:43,600 Speaker 1: me man, and I just started making some ship that 2078 02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:45,640 Speaker 1: made Chris feel like he needed to pull up to 2079 02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:48,760 Speaker 1: my sessions and my nigger. And not only did he 2080 02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:51,080 Speaker 1: pull up, Man, he started pulling up so regularly on 2081 02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:53,400 Speaker 1: an unannounced level. It was almost like he had something 2082 02:31:53,440 --> 02:31:56,120 Speaker 1: to prove to the people that he was talking to 2083 02:31:56,240 --> 02:31:59,200 Speaker 1: about my ship. And he was like, Oh, you don't 2084 02:31:59,240 --> 02:32:01,600 Speaker 1: believe me, let me bring you to the studio, so 2085 02:32:01,720 --> 02:32:05,119 Speaker 1: you can see that what I'm saying is truth. I'm 2086 02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:15,480 Speaker 1: not finished. You're not gonna interrupt me, Nori, thank you now, 2087 02:32:15,560 --> 02:32:17,480 Speaker 1: it's this disimportant to me. That's why I just want 2088 02:32:17,480 --> 02:32:19,200 Speaker 1: to get it off. Let me just finish this part. 2089 02:32:20,360 --> 02:32:24,040 Speaker 1: My brother came to the studio with his children and 2090 02:32:24,160 --> 02:32:27,280 Speaker 1: made me press play. He came to the studio with 2091 02:32:27,480 --> 02:32:30,480 Speaker 1: other movie and television execution made me press the play. 2092 02:32:30,920 --> 02:32:33,840 Speaker 1: He pulled up with other powerful music industry exacts and 2093 02:32:33,879 --> 02:32:37,360 Speaker 1: made me press play. As a proud big brother and 2094 02:32:37,480 --> 02:32:45,360 Speaker 1: a proud father of busting Rhyme's career. So as I 2095 02:32:45,480 --> 02:32:52,240 Speaker 1: watched him shaperoon the whole planet with fifty l L 2096 02:32:53,600 --> 02:33:00,960 Speaker 1: sometimes Nori, sometimes Mom, and he wasn't pulling up to 2097 02:33:01,040 --> 02:33:04,560 Speaker 1: my ship when he finally decided to pull up to 2098 02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:11,120 Speaker 1: my ship and then he died. Right you know how 2099 02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:17,640 Speaker 1: that made me feel I'm not gonna lie. That shouldn't 2100 02:33:17,720 --> 02:33:21,520 Speaker 1: fucking hurt Bro. You know what I'm saying. Like Chris 2101 02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:24,200 Speaker 1: sent me an email in my BlackBerry and Bro was like, Yo, 2102 02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. It's just two dollars eleven. I'm 2103 02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:41,640 Speaker 1: proud of you, Bro, He goes, you finally did it. 2104 02:33:43,600 --> 02:33:47,000 Speaker 1: Pink Floyd didn't record their greatest album, called The Wall, 2105 02:33:47,160 --> 02:33:54,320 Speaker 1: until the eighth album, You Finally Caught that train. Congratulations, 2106 02:33:54,440 --> 02:33:58,720 Speaker 1: bunch the rhymes. Oh so now you're telling me that 2107 02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm and this is yearly two back in two thousand eleven. 2108 02:34:02,879 --> 02:34:05,400 Speaker 1: I started this album in O nine, eleven years ago. 2109 02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:12,080 Speaker 1: So he tells me this in two thousand and eleven, 2110 02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:15,880 Speaker 1: and then you die. You don't live to chaperoon around 2111 02:34:15,920 --> 02:34:24,119 Speaker 1: the planet with me. I feel cheated. I'm being short changed. 2112 02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:32,400 Speaker 1: This ain't fair, this ain't right, this ain't right. I 2113 02:34:32,600 --> 02:34:37,119 Speaker 1: was the first ship. I don't get my turn, nigger. 2114 02:34:49,720 --> 02:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that would be so so Oh I didn't 2115 02:35:02,480 --> 02:35:05,560 Speaker 1: I lose my father too while I made this album. 2116 02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:14,080 Speaker 1: I lose Chris Slatty, and I lose my daddy making 2117 02:35:14,120 --> 02:35:19,240 Speaker 1: this album. Niggas want to know why I took so 2118 02:35:19,400 --> 02:35:22,160 Speaker 1: long to put out an album. I was going through 2119 02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:25,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of ship, nigger. I had to lose weight, 2120 02:35:29,959 --> 02:35:34,920 Speaker 1: I had to find refuge and people that didn't mean 2121 02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:40,480 Speaker 1: as much to me as Chris and my father, and 2122 02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:44,760 Speaker 1: I started to walk around with this smile like I 2123 02:35:44,920 --> 02:35:50,160 Speaker 1: was doing well, that's how hard things to fucking do 2124 02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:54,959 Speaker 1: and I ain't looking for no sympathy. I just want 2125 02:35:55,000 --> 02:36:00,600 Speaker 1: to share because I want niggas to know pain that 2126 02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:03,600 Speaker 1: you go through too. You could look at me and 2127 02:36:03,800 --> 02:36:09,960 Speaker 1: see your pain in me, because none of us exempt 2128 02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:18,920 Speaker 1: from suffering as all as it's about that, I'm sharing, 2129 02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's therapeutically beautiful for me because I'm finally in 2130 02:36:24,120 --> 02:36:26,640 Speaker 1: a space in my life where I'm comfortable enough to 2131 02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:30,160 Speaker 1: share it. Now. Long it took for me to start 2132 02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:35,840 Speaker 1: having these kind of conversations with the public m now 2133 02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:38,720 Speaker 1: many years I've been walking around with this ship, afraid 2134 02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:40,680 Speaker 1: to talk about it because I don't want is to 2135 02:36:40,840 --> 02:36:46,480 Speaker 1: use this vulnerability against me. Can't. No, it's strength, man, 2136 02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:50,200 Speaker 1: They can't. You don't know that at the time. When 2137 02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,760 Speaker 1: you do, you know what I'm saying, I'll agree with 2138 02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:57,119 Speaker 1: that part as well what I'm saying. They can't they 2139 02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:01,520 Speaker 1: because I feel the same thing that you feel, like 2140 02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:05,080 Speaker 1: we all feel. Nor when you asked the question that 2141 02:37:05,160 --> 02:37:09,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even respond to yet, you said, did Chris 2142 02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:14,400 Speaker 1: kill himself? Because you can't believe it, I'm gonna say 2143 02:37:14,480 --> 02:37:22,840 Speaker 1: this to you. I don't want to believe it. What 2144 02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:40,000 Speaker 1: he was going through. It won't allow But we know 2145 02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:44,400 Speaker 1: if Chris won't allow us to accept that possible reality. 2146 02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:50,520 Speaker 1: But what he was going through, I don't know if 2147 02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:54,560 Speaker 1: we understood the significance of how serious it was. Neither 2148 02:37:56,040 --> 02:38:03,120 Speaker 1: fee me. So I don't have the answer for that. 2149 02:38:03,280 --> 02:38:05,040 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna leave you with that, and you can 2150 02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,920 Speaker 1: take that and walk with it and figure out what 2151 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:11,120 Speaker 1: it is that you think I might be saying. But 2152 02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,440 Speaker 1: what I am saying is there ain't no statue of 2153 02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:19,400 Speaker 1: limitation to a murder neither. So I ain't gonna stop 2154 02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:22,000 Speaker 1: till I get to the bottom of it. I need 2155 02:38:22,120 --> 02:38:35,920 Speaker 1: to take a break about this when it came to 2156 02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:45,599 Speaker 1: bro because he does not his value and his significance 2157 02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:49,440 Speaker 1: and other people's lives are not the same as it 2158 02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:53,560 Speaker 1: is in ours. What he means to us. A lot 2159 02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:56,240 Speaker 1: of people can't relate to that, you know what I'm saying, 2160 02:38:56,320 --> 02:39:00,760 Speaker 1: So it doesn't resonate the same way when you talk 2161 02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,360 Speaker 1: about him to them. If he did not impact your 2162 02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:08,080 Speaker 1: life in the way that he impact ours, you know 2163 02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:12,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's actually a pleasure and in 2164 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:17,880 Speaker 1: honor to be able to disclose these feelings with people 2165 02:39:17,959 --> 02:39:22,320 Speaker 1: that I know, you and him, y'all know Chris, you 2166 02:39:22,360 --> 02:39:25,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, he knows Chris, Like how I 2167 02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:31,920 Speaker 1: know Chris? You know Chris because you had to deal 2168 02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:35,519 Speaker 1: with Violator when he was alive and at his apex. 2169 02:39:36,760 --> 02:39:43,520 Speaker 1: So our understanding, nixt understanding, less understanding, fuzzy understanding. Even 2170 02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:48,640 Speaker 1: wheb right where used to ship management credit with Mona 2171 02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:52,560 Speaker 1: Scott and Chris Lidy as a co manager for me. 2172 02:39:54,080 --> 02:39:56,640 Speaker 1: You can look at the credits for my first three 2173 02:39:56,720 --> 02:40:04,480 Speaker 1: solo albums and see managers Kevin Webb Welch for Flip 2174 02:40:04,560 --> 02:40:09,879 Speaker 1: Mode Management and Chris Lady and Mona Scott for Violated 2175 02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:17,240 Speaker 1: Management Real Ship. And it's my brother who introduced me 2176 02:40:17,320 --> 02:40:19,320 Speaker 1: to how to survive as a fifteen year old in 2177 02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:34,560 Speaker 1: the Reaganomics era, which so so you don't want a 2178 02:40:34,600 --> 02:40:38,560 Speaker 1: bigger split, right, that's one of the steps. Now I'm 2179 02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:42,480 Speaker 1: enjoying my Gurker Cigargar. I feel like, you know the 2180 02:40:42,560 --> 02:40:45,440 Speaker 1: owner of Yes I do Big Up the kais from 2181 02:40:45,760 --> 02:41:00,920 Speaker 1: Kirk Kirki Cigar your money Now again about Chris, I 2182 02:41:01,080 --> 02:41:07,960 Speaker 1: just felt like when you were talking about festival ship 2183 02:41:09,120 --> 02:41:15,160 Speaker 1: with Violator and how emotional you see me get probably 2184 02:41:15,160 --> 02:41:21,000 Speaker 1: the only time that is a indirect correlation with the 2185 02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:26,840 Speaker 1: fact that from two thousand twelve to now, we ain't 2186 02:41:26,959 --> 02:41:30,280 Speaker 1: organized nothing to honor to violate a legacy other than 2187 02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:35,080 Speaker 1: trying to talk on the fucking podcast about how great 2188 02:41:35,120 --> 02:41:38,000 Speaker 1: he was that ship is corny to me. I don't 2189 02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:45,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about Chris on nobody's podcast. I'm only 2190 02:41:45,160 --> 02:41:47,480 Speaker 1: doing it now because I'm with my brothers. That was 2191 02:41:47,560 --> 02:41:53,640 Speaker 1: a part of the violated legacy. Only other person that 2192 02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:55,840 Speaker 1: actually to do it, and I actually told him I 2193 02:41:55,879 --> 02:42:00,640 Speaker 1: ain't with it, was Fat Joe, because I told Fat 2194 02:42:00,760 --> 02:42:04,040 Speaker 1: Joe like I'm gonna tell you Mari, and like I 2195 02:42:04,200 --> 02:42:09,040 Speaker 1: told he Nicks, something's wrong with the fact that we 2196 02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:12,959 Speaker 1: ain't do nothing to uphold the violate the legacy properly. 2197 02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:16,840 Speaker 1: I got a song on my album called Deep Thought, 2198 02:42:21,320 --> 02:42:27,080 Speaker 1: and I specifically address how we ain't screaming violated like 2199 02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:41,080 Speaker 1: we used to. And my biggest problem with that is damn. 2200 02:42:42,480 --> 02:42:46,039 Speaker 1: Then he introduced all of us to a different tax bracket. 2201 02:42:49,400 --> 02:42:52,520 Speaker 1: He turned us, all, every last one of us into 2202 02:42:53,520 --> 02:42:59,160 Speaker 1: Rich Sniggers Man. Our whip game change, our jury game, changed, 2203 02:42:59,200 --> 02:43:05,960 Speaker 1: our crib game, a changed yep, Him and Mona Scott, 2204 02:43:07,600 --> 02:43:16,360 Speaker 1: Eric Knicks, James Cruise, Laurie Dobbins, Claudine Joseph Gail Hansen, 2205 02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:22,279 Speaker 1: a Keena Rock mind, Laura c o Cia, Mike Lady 2206 02:43:23,520 --> 02:43:27,800 Speaker 1: was over for a little bit, right now, Yeah, come 2207 02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:36,840 Speaker 1: on now, our team was it was Avengers for real. 2208 02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:43,240 Speaker 1: It was bro so to have that kind of support. 2209 02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:47,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying everybody named it so much 2210 02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:52,880 Speaker 1: others that was intricate to the whole puzzle. And forgive 2211 02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:55,920 Speaker 1: me for not saying everybody name, but there was incredible 2212 02:43:56,040 --> 02:44:00,000 Speaker 1: people that was coming in and out of the infrastry 2213 02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:03,000 Speaker 1: up here at different times of the evolution of Violator, 2214 02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:13,040 Speaker 1: and they played significant roles at those times. And we 2215 02:44:13,480 --> 02:44:20,560 Speaker 1: have done the Valletor legacy a complete and total injustice, 2216 02:44:23,280 --> 02:44:27,600 Speaker 1: and we we should be ashamed of ourselves. I'm being 2217 02:44:27,640 --> 02:44:32,520 Speaker 1: honest with you. We're all included, We're all guilty of that. 2218 02:44:34,400 --> 02:44:37,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Violator unless we're doing something. 2219 02:44:38,800 --> 02:44:41,520 Speaker 1: I talked about it tonight because I wanted everyone that 2220 02:44:41,920 --> 02:44:45,039 Speaker 1: is and has been a part of the Valator legacy 2221 02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:53,840 Speaker 1: to realize how much we should be ashamed of ourselves. Me, 2222 02:44:54,080 --> 02:45:01,400 Speaker 1: you two, everybody. We shouldn't we should have missed, we 2223 02:45:01,480 --> 02:45:04,200 Speaker 1: should have we should have got together this and it 2224 02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:09,000 Speaker 1: ain't too late. Can we still can't. That's the beautiful 2225 02:45:09,040 --> 02:45:12,000 Speaker 1: line at the end of the tunnel. Now, what we 2226 02:45:12,120 --> 02:45:15,400 Speaker 1: do moving forward is a testament to whether or not 2227 02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:20,360 Speaker 1: we live our word or not. I'ma ask a tough question. Yeah, 2228 02:45:20,400 --> 02:45:23,039 Speaker 1: why do you think there wasn't one person to step 2229 02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:26,520 Speaker 1: up to say let me, let me, let me take this. 2230 02:45:26,680 --> 02:45:28,880 Speaker 1: Why you think I'll didn't do that? Why do you 2231 02:45:28,959 --> 02:45:31,920 Speaker 1: think you didn't do that or me didn't take up. 2232 02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one reason. 2233 02:45:45,280 --> 02:45:59,720 Speaker 1: And as ugly as it might sound, I'm trying to 2234 02:45:59,800 --> 02:46:02,080 Speaker 1: find the right way to say this because I do 2235 02:46:02,240 --> 02:46:06,040 Speaker 1: want to be mindful of not offending anybody. I think 2236 02:46:06,280 --> 02:46:15,400 Speaker 1: once you come from the heart, no more were Maybe 2237 02:46:15,480 --> 02:46:18,480 Speaker 1: it's more of a question and a statement. How much 2238 02:46:18,560 --> 02:46:22,080 Speaker 1: did we really love Chris? We all love Chris. I 2239 02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:26,440 Speaker 1: don't think I said how much did we love Chris? 2240 02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:30,920 Speaker 1: And questioning whether or not we did love him? I'm 2241 02:46:31,040 --> 02:46:34,800 Speaker 1: questioning how much did we love him? How much did 2242 02:46:34,840 --> 02:46:42,960 Speaker 1: we appreciate him? Obviously we felt short somewhere. That's the 2243 02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:47,520 Speaker 1: common denominator in my nigger. Not enough was done. Not 2244 02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:54,720 Speaker 1: enough was done, which is a horrible truth about how 2245 02:46:54,840 --> 02:46:57,920 Speaker 1: much we really loved him because if we felt like 2246 02:46:58,160 --> 02:47:02,880 Speaker 1: he was worth going through whatever the due diligence was, 2247 02:47:03,800 --> 02:47:07,840 Speaker 1: we would have done it right. Okay, let's learn from 2248 02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:14,440 Speaker 1: this and let's swing. You know what I'm saying like, 2249 02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:17,480 Speaker 1: We're not going to sit here and act like errors 2250 02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:22,240 Speaker 1: ain't made to be corrected. Positive education always corrects errors. 2251 02:47:22,280 --> 02:47:26,400 Speaker 1: That's the acronym of peace, pieces the absence of confusion. 2252 02:47:27,400 --> 02:47:35,400 Speaker 1: Let's not confuse the situation any further and positively educate 2253 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:41,760 Speaker 1: ourselves so that it can always correct the error. Now, 2254 02:47:41,879 --> 02:47:45,560 Speaker 1: let's correct the fucking error. That's why I pointed it 2255 02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:48,640 Speaker 1: out in my album in a song called Deep Thought 2256 02:47:49,280 --> 02:47:55,160 Speaker 1: on extinction level of Men to the God. Damn. So 2257 02:47:55,360 --> 02:48:00,560 Speaker 1: now we have been discussing things, me and Rick nis 2258 02:48:00,640 --> 02:48:09,680 Speaker 1: In particularly about planning for twenty one situation the Lecacy, 2259 02:48:10,520 --> 02:48:13,120 Speaker 1: our brother. It's like twelve days away, but I'm still scared. 2260 02:48:13,360 --> 02:48:27,320 Speaker 1: No one said twelve days away. Let me, you don't 2261 02:48:27,360 --> 02:48:29,879 Speaker 1: mean that literally. He didn't mean it literally. What you're 2262 02:48:29,879 --> 02:48:34,520 Speaker 1: saying around the corner. I got around the corner. It 2263 02:48:34,680 --> 02:48:37,880 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be an early one. Thing that we was 2264 02:48:37,879 --> 02:48:40,119 Speaker 1: gonna try to organize is gonna be trying to try 2265 02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:42,000 Speaker 1: to we was gonna try to organize in like late summer, 2266 02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:47,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, August one, you know what I'm saying, that 2267 02:48:47,320 --> 02:48:53,840 Speaker 1: kind of time framek Okay, Yes, So my brother has 2268 02:48:53,840 --> 02:48:56,760 Speaker 1: already taking a lead on it. Discussions we've been having 2269 02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:01,080 Speaker 1: for the last two weeks, three weeks, and I got 2270 02:49:01,160 --> 02:49:04,600 Speaker 1: what he knicks because he's a facilitator. He ain't with 2271 02:49:04,760 --> 02:49:11,120 Speaker 1: the talk ship, you know, he he a sound Yeah, 2272 02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:13,760 Speaker 1: he knicks as a silencer. You know what I'm saying. 2273 02:49:14,120 --> 02:49:19,040 Speaker 1: So you need that in order to facilitate. You know, 2274 02:49:19,120 --> 02:49:24,680 Speaker 1: we're great with with the mouthpiece. That's why we lyricists exactly. 2275 02:49:25,160 --> 02:49:31,800 Speaker 1: He don't, he's rapping. He's about doing. The combination of 2276 02:49:31,879 --> 02:49:36,840 Speaker 1: the boat is what makes the magic happen. So that's 2277 02:49:36,959 --> 02:49:41,280 Speaker 1: that's the goal. And I just hope we don't get 2278 02:49:41,360 --> 02:49:45,440 Speaker 1: to a crossroads where we gotta deal with unnecessary obstacles 2279 02:49:45,520 --> 02:49:49,400 Speaker 1: that can block the blessing. As long as we don't 2280 02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:52,680 Speaker 1: go through something that we can't get around, this is 2281 02:49:52,720 --> 02:49:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen, and we're gonna organize this in a way 2282 02:49:57,840 --> 02:50:06,600 Speaker 1: so that the the kids are straight, his mom's is straight. 2283 02:50:09,640 --> 02:50:12,320 Speaker 1: The people that directly needs to be taken care of 2284 02:50:13,080 --> 02:50:18,320 Speaker 1: is taken care of, and then whatever the mother Chris's 2285 02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:25,560 Speaker 1: mother deems suitable with the kids, that the rest of 2286 02:50:25,720 --> 02:50:30,480 Speaker 1: the proceeds should go too. That's where it's gonna go. 2287 02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:36,040 Speaker 1: And a lot willen. This comes to fruition in the 2288 02:50:36,120 --> 02:50:40,400 Speaker 1: most magical and flawless way possible. And ship Man, I'm 2289 02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:44,360 Speaker 1: do everything on my side within my means to see 2290 02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:48,680 Speaker 1: this ship through E to Z. We're gonna cross every team, 2291 02:50:48,760 --> 02:50:51,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna dot every fucking eye, and we're gonna make 2292 02:50:51,959 --> 02:50:53,480 Speaker 1: sure that we see this ship through the way we're 2293 02:50:53,480 --> 02:50:55,800 Speaker 1: supposed to see it through. And that's what I got 2294 02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:59,840 Speaker 1: asked for, you know what I'm saying, especially for that 2295 02:51:03,640 --> 02:51:06,880 Speaker 1: anyway we can help guess anyway we can be there 2296 02:51:06,920 --> 02:51:09,240 Speaker 1: with you every step of getting part of the shop. 2297 02:51:09,320 --> 02:51:12,040 Speaker 1: And then we'll do a quick times slid quick time, 2298 02:51:12,080 --> 02:51:14,480 Speaker 1: I slide, I'm quick. This is this is just a 2299 02:51:14,720 --> 02:51:18,160 Speaker 1: commitment from Noria. Every next asked the question, you need 2300 02:51:18,200 --> 02:51:20,720 Speaker 1: to answer it. Answer the question again. Wait wait, wait 2301 02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:23,120 Speaker 1: wait wait, actually a game with nobody talking, why are 2302 02:51:23,120 --> 02:51:32,400 Speaker 1: you talking? Jink Chances hosting? What are you talking? No? 2303 02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:34,560 Speaker 1: But in addition to that, we need you the performance 2304 02:51:34,600 --> 02:51:38,160 Speaker 1: of Okay, so I need to hit up too. I 2305 02:51:38,320 --> 02:51:41,680 Speaker 1: want to hear what. I don't think too on my side, 2306 02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:48,880 Speaker 1: but call somethbody. I'll be busting out there this yeah, 2307 02:51:48,959 --> 02:51:53,840 Speaker 1: I've been doing. I don't know that. I'll be disrespectful. 2308 02:51:53,959 --> 02:51:58,520 Speaker 1: This is set at my in my mind. Spare stars 2309 02:51:58,680 --> 02:52:08,120 Speaker 1: covering older new book lined Wait a minute, Swift, yeah please, yeah, yeah, 2310 02:52:08,160 --> 02:52:10,879 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie this. This is a whole new wave. 2311 02:52:11,520 --> 02:52:14,680 Speaker 1: But Spiff gave me this wave like four years ago, 2312 02:52:14,800 --> 02:52:17,360 Speaker 1: and hit Factory told me about this is a new 2313 02:52:17,720 --> 02:52:21,039 Speaker 1: case of Brooklyn. I need you to say this, Solf 2314 02:52:21,080 --> 02:52:23,400 Speaker 1: about Splippers in the room. He gotta hear you address 2315 02:52:23,440 --> 02:52:29,400 Speaker 1: a proper him right now. Splits alright, Fine, already, fine, 2316 02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:41,480 Speaker 1: three more as slipper, God, damnit, give up ring che Listen, listen, 2317 02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:46,280 Speaker 1: check off. We got there's a whole listen. Swift, don't 2318 02:52:46,280 --> 02:52:50,840 Speaker 1: give me a Mike, No, Mike, you gotta talk. This 2319 02:52:51,000 --> 02:53:00,160 Speaker 1: is just project project now. He's gonna go. Yeah. The 2320 02:53:00,200 --> 02:53:04,560 Speaker 1: first they can put you in the rap game's relaxed slaking. 2321 02:53:05,520 --> 02:53:16,320 Speaker 1: This is rid be ready yet ready No, No, when 2322 02:53:16,400 --> 02:53:21,160 Speaker 1: you take the shot. Plus you've got it, brother Ice elevative. 2323 02:53:22,520 --> 02:53:33,800 Speaker 1: I can't come a shot ship he yes, yes, yes, yes, 2324 02:53:35,680 --> 02:53:37,640 Speaker 1: I get to play and you talk to split Wait 2325 02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:40,720 Speaker 1: a minute, give him a shot Splip. No no no 2326 02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:42,800 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no. My brother needs 2327 02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:46,040 Speaker 1: a shot. I'll take this. Hen that's what we're doing. 2328 02:53:46,959 --> 02:53:50,560 Speaker 1: Go for it. But I sing in for him though. 2329 02:53:50,680 --> 02:53:53,600 Speaker 1: He don't need to drink. No hot lit y'all. G 2330 02:53:54,840 --> 02:53:59,160 Speaker 1: Splip don't drink Splip bun down the room though, let's 2331 02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:16,199 Speaker 1: all right, you give me, give me, give me. I remember, 2332 02:54:16,720 --> 02:54:19,960 Speaker 1: it was going straight to point with you Smith, not 2333 02:54:20,120 --> 02:54:23,200 Speaker 1: bust though you know where you're going going. He was 2334 02:54:23,240 --> 02:54:26,240 Speaker 1: going into the Brooklyn artists that you feel like Spliff discovered. 2335 02:54:26,360 --> 02:54:29,600 Speaker 1: Now you said Flip Spliff discovered the wave, and you 2336 02:54:29,680 --> 02:54:33,880 Speaker 1: said you like four years ago. Listen, you told me 2337 02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:36,720 Speaker 1: like four years ago he was talking about these artists. 2338 02:54:36,760 --> 02:54:38,760 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at you. I think it was called 2339 02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:42,560 Speaker 1: paper Rock Rock. I call him paper Rock Gay. And 2340 02:54:43,600 --> 02:54:48,800 Speaker 1: now you show me these pictures, these all these artists. Now, 2341 02:54:49,000 --> 02:54:53,640 Speaker 1: who are you talking about? In particularly know who he 2342 02:54:53,760 --> 02:54:57,879 Speaker 1: talking about? Okay, I'm just making sure I'm clear. Then 2343 02:54:58,000 --> 02:55:00,480 Speaker 1: known as we see a little lescar, one of like 2344 02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:04,080 Speaker 1: doptor so his name is Swipey. You got five year 2345 02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:10,920 Speaker 1: four the connect the whole eight hunting, four side, handsome ball. 2346 02:55:13,440 --> 02:55:16,800 Speaker 1: It was over paper rock. At one time, I had 2347 02:55:17,720 --> 02:55:20,960 Speaker 1: over like I had different you know, against you, and 2348 02:55:21,040 --> 02:55:23,360 Speaker 1: I kid you not spec you told me and I 2349 02:55:23,520 --> 02:55:27,120 Speaker 1: was like you shure. I was like, yo, it's not 2350 02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:29,080 Speaker 1: because I always like I just want to go out 2351 02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:32,320 Speaker 1: there into my own thing for a second. And I 2352 02:55:32,680 --> 02:55:36,160 Speaker 1: doubted you. I know, it's okay. No, that's a friend, 2353 02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, my friend, like I was to say, but 2354 02:55:38,160 --> 02:55:41,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I also supported you. I doubt do 2355 02:55:41,480 --> 02:55:47,520 Speaker 1: don support, don't support support sometimes a good one. Right 2356 02:55:47,560 --> 02:55:55,760 Speaker 1: now it was support everybody here. But but then there's 2357 02:55:55,840 --> 02:56:01,880 Speaker 1: four years later. I said, yo, effy goss if when 2358 02:56:03,480 --> 02:56:07,920 Speaker 1: it's out here good and that's the way dans all 2359 02:56:07,959 --> 02:56:16,800 Speaker 1: the time brok. Yeah, but I saw the way going 2360 02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:20,280 Speaker 1: time ago. It's just like when Drake went to UM 2361 02:56:21,040 --> 02:56:25,160 Speaker 1: it's still being no Jaz rental whether they said no, 2362 02:56:25,720 --> 02:56:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people don't they don't catch there. I 2363 02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:30,760 Speaker 1: just saw something I just wanted to put my next. 2364 02:56:31,080 --> 02:56:33,840 Speaker 1: This is a flat push movement. This was n This 2365 02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:36,200 Speaker 1: is a picture go out moving. This was slipped our 2366 02:56:36,280 --> 02:56:40,480 Speaker 1: training camp. This was I learned. You see the greatest 2367 02:56:40,520 --> 02:56:43,880 Speaker 1: of around busting vines and around Dr Drakefies this and 2368 02:56:43,959 --> 02:56:47,640 Speaker 1: that well or something to the norwst exhorbed. I'm a 2369 02:56:47,720 --> 02:56:49,560 Speaker 1: hustle that he came in the rapper now a rapper 2370 02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:52,160 Speaker 1: that's trying to be a hustle. Put that talk to 2371 02:56:52,360 --> 02:56:54,960 Speaker 1: like exhambing, just like how we doing the street week, 2372 02:56:55,040 --> 02:56:57,000 Speaker 1: so we see we bag it out and put it 2373 02:56:57,040 --> 02:56:59,200 Speaker 1: on the show, if you know what they say? Far 2374 02:56:59,320 --> 02:57:04,880 Speaker 1: and farther right, Um five yeol, where was here? He 2375 02:57:05,080 --> 02:57:08,080 Speaker 1: was there? All from the nine. They're all from Groundsville, 2376 02:57:09,320 --> 02:57:13,160 Speaker 1: best side, Eastern New York, flatish, you know what I mean. 2377 02:57:13,520 --> 02:57:15,520 Speaker 1: Some of these guys are blood, some of them crypts 2378 02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:17,080 Speaker 1: or some of them are fun. But this is the 2379 02:57:17,160 --> 02:57:20,680 Speaker 1: first time actually I had blood crypt as fok together 2380 02:57:20,879 --> 02:57:25,720 Speaker 1: in the studio. It looked like this. It was just 2381 02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:30,200 Speaker 1: like this. And um, when I went to Miami, I 2382 02:57:30,400 --> 02:57:33,240 Speaker 1: got a record on him. Course I'm swipey. I saw 2383 02:57:33,320 --> 02:57:35,800 Speaker 1: a video and everything, and then we're kind of good 2384 02:57:35,879 --> 02:57:38,720 Speaker 1: little nine million used on the wall store and all that, 2385 02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:42,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, good, You're going to go week 2386 02:57:42,080 --> 02:57:47,840 Speaker 1: in Miami for two thousand and fifteen. You know, must 2387 02:57:47,840 --> 02:57:50,640 Speaker 1: pull up I Miami bus. Pull up. You see a 2388 02:57:50,680 --> 02:57:56,840 Speaker 1: bunch of niggas. Bus going on there. You told was 2389 02:57:56,879 --> 02:58:02,840 Speaker 1: in front of the sneaker store. So you didn't believe 2390 02:58:02,879 --> 02:58:07,680 Speaker 1: in the movie, man, like I just did anything. I 2391 02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:12,960 Speaker 1: watched it. I did it. Man. Yeah, I'm buying some 2392 02:58:13,120 --> 02:58:17,160 Speaker 1: sneakers and Souls Inc. On Washington as y'all know the 2393 02:58:17,240 --> 02:58:23,360 Speaker 1: sneaker storm, telling about you know, you know what sneaker storm. 2394 02:58:24,360 --> 02:58:29,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Wait, you're talking about Sunny. Don't 2395 02:58:29,560 --> 02:58:35,440 Speaker 1: go there. Study he knows about it. Like you don't 2396 02:58:35,480 --> 02:58:42,400 Speaker 1: go here, he he go to the you go you market. 2397 02:58:47,320 --> 02:58:50,360 Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know this, don't this expect 2398 02:58:50,400 --> 02:58:56,960 Speaker 1: the sunny. But you're going to us a free market. 2399 02:58:57,120 --> 02:59:13,560 Speaker 1: Let's pretend. Go go back to it. You know, you 2400 02:59:13,720 --> 02:59:18,400 Speaker 1: know you know Sunny. You know you know's go back 2401 02:59:18,440 --> 02:59:25,520 Speaker 1: to your car. Yeah, you know about souls and you 2402 02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:30,440 Speaker 1: know this is this is this is take two like 2403 02:59:30,560 --> 02:59:38,760 Speaker 1: Star Wars Take two, Tip three, Sla Take three. You know, hi, 2404 02:59:39,200 --> 02:59:45,000 Speaker 1: so bust it. You know about souls? I can't, all right, 2405 02:59:45,080 --> 02:59:53,119 Speaker 1: so thank you marking my better snake about of sneak 2406 02:59:53,280 --> 02:59:56,320 Speaker 1: is about two T shirts. I come out of Souls 2407 02:59:56,360 --> 03:00:05,600 Speaker 1: in spliff, got a sprinter in front of Soul, Zay, Fabio, Firing, Swippy, 2408 03:00:06,200 --> 03:00:11,959 Speaker 1: all of these artists eight hundred Fire Inside Whole Click. 2409 03:00:15,280 --> 03:00:21,920 Speaker 1: They performing their songs oh d levels like they on 2410 03:00:22,440 --> 03:00:27,080 Speaker 1: top of the sprinter, bouncing around like wow, jelly beans. 2411 03:00:28,160 --> 03:00:31,920 Speaker 1: They're in inside the sprinter. They on the curb. I 2412 03:00:32,080 --> 03:00:40,080 Speaker 1: come outside and Spicy trying to talk to me, and 2413 03:00:40,200 --> 03:00:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't Swipey excuse me, And I don't really know 2414 03:00:42,680 --> 03:00:47,920 Speaker 1: him yet, so as I'm going to approach Spliff Swippy, 2415 03:00:48,680 --> 03:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Swipey was being a little aggressive about me not acknowledging them. 2416 03:00:53,879 --> 03:01:00,000 Speaker 1: So the way he was addressing me, I couldn't understand. 2417 03:01:00,040 --> 03:01:04,360 Speaker 1: And it like he's on dust. No, he wasn't on nothing. 2418 03:01:04,480 --> 03:01:11,400 Speaker 1: He just you know, we're going agressive. I'm just like, 2419 03:01:11,520 --> 03:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just like down that road. No, 2420 03:01:15,520 --> 03:01:20,760 Speaker 1: young aggressive, You're like, yo, you sick. I get what 2421 03:01:20,800 --> 03:01:25,120 Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm not saying he's not speaking from a 2422 03:01:25,120 --> 03:01:27,840 Speaker 1: little replaced I got you kids. Okay, cool so so 2423 03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:34,520 Speaker 1: but but but what was transpiring was there was an 2424 03:01:34,720 --> 03:01:38,240 Speaker 1: energy that felt like it was a little excessive in 2425 03:01:38,360 --> 03:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the moment from the young bro and we was getting 2426 03:01:43,560 --> 03:01:48,400 Speaker 1: ready to get into something. Me and Swipey Swipey looked 2427 03:01:48,440 --> 03:01:54,240 Speaker 1: like split child. They literally looked the same. It's not 2428 03:01:54,400 --> 03:02:04,199 Speaker 1: your child, though there might need to be a blood 2429 03:02:04,240 --> 03:02:18,760 Speaker 1: test right now. We're joking, joking, all right, we're joking. 2430 03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:23,520 Speaker 1: First of all, big bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, the 2431 03:02:23,640 --> 03:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Swipey and big up the fucking Fabio faring make no wrong. 2432 03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:39,959 Speaker 1: I love now. Splits introduced me to them before anybody 2433 03:02:40,040 --> 03:02:44,320 Speaker 1: heard them. Split's been working with them, mold and shaping them, 2434 03:02:45,360 --> 03:02:49,600 Speaker 1: grooming them before the world heard them. I haven't seen 2435 03:02:49,680 --> 03:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Spliff at Airbnb's with them, with them jumping in and 2436 03:02:53,680 --> 03:02:56,720 Speaker 1: out of swimming pools, just happy to be away from them. 2437 03:02:57,720 --> 03:03:02,160 Speaker 1: The five Burrows, I saw all of this. I didn't 2438 03:03:02,200 --> 03:03:05,560 Speaker 1: connect with them because I needed to respect protocol. The 2439 03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:10,560 Speaker 1: just Spliffs soldiers, he the general. I'm not trying to 2440 03:03:10,720 --> 03:03:15,600 Speaker 1: intervene and act like I'm on some busting rhyme ship. No, 2441 03:03:16,120 --> 03:03:20,520 Speaker 1: my brother is Spliff Starr and like you, I should 2442 03:03:20,560 --> 03:03:25,280 Speaker 1: be appreciative that y'all are with my fucking brother. And 2443 03:03:25,480 --> 03:03:28,199 Speaker 1: he's been around me long enough to know how to lead. 2444 03:03:30,320 --> 03:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Let me stay out the way. See, sometimes you gotta 2445 03:03:33,480 --> 03:03:37,000 Speaker 1: know when to get out the way. A lot of 2446 03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Niggers don't know when to get out the way, and 2447 03:03:40,360 --> 03:03:45,160 Speaker 1: sometimes that leads to blessings being blocked. When you don't 2448 03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:47,760 Speaker 1: know to get out the way, you could block a blessing. 2449 03:03:49,040 --> 03:03:52,039 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna try to block my brother's blessing when 2450 03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I see him leading and doing a great job at leading. Now, 2451 03:03:57,640 --> 03:04:00,640 Speaker 1: if my brother needs to answer a question or two 2452 03:04:00,720 --> 03:04:04,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to anything leading or even something that's 2453 03:04:04,840 --> 03:04:09,840 Speaker 1: way off the record from dealing with this business, I'm 2454 03:04:09,879 --> 03:04:11,760 Speaker 1: always going to be the resource to him because he's 2455 03:04:11,800 --> 03:04:17,920 Speaker 1: always been a resource to me. But amazingly beautiful thing 2456 03:04:24,640 --> 03:04:29,040 Speaker 1: I want to say one time, you know spirits dried them? 2457 03:04:29,720 --> 03:04:31,320 Speaker 1: He trying to give me this foke a cigarette in 2458 03:04:31,320 --> 03:04:43,400 Speaker 1: the bathroom of the airplane. He looked at me, Dad, 2459 03:04:48,280 --> 03:04:53,280 Speaker 1: I want to sing, is the first artist on my shild? 2460 03:04:54,800 --> 03:04:56,760 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no not wait wait 2461 03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:58,360 Speaker 1: wait wait wait, let let me say it right. But 2462 03:04:58,560 --> 03:05:00,560 Speaker 1: don't I want to say it left. I want to 2463 03:05:00,600 --> 03:05:04,240 Speaker 1: say it right. I want to say it right. Spliff, 2464 03:05:04,280 --> 03:05:10,600 Speaker 1: they say it right in Spliff. Nor is the first 2465 03:05:10,840 --> 03:05:17,080 Speaker 1: artist out of the elite group of mcs to believe 2466 03:05:17,160 --> 03:05:19,280 Speaker 1: in Spliff enough to put Spliff on the record. When 2467 03:05:19,320 --> 03:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Spliff and can't have his own ship out here. It's 2468 03:05:26,560 --> 03:05:35,400 Speaker 1: honestly say, um who was to produce the time? Who shot? 2469 03:05:35,760 --> 03:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah you was serious? Joy I was, and 2470 03:05:38,920 --> 03:05:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what nobuddy he definitely he called me up. 2471 03:05:52,920 --> 03:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I went to Daddy House and recorded that yo, and 2472 03:05:55,600 --> 03:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Spliff told me he was getting on the record normally. 2473 03:06:00,440 --> 03:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Probably that was Sniff Spliff directly. Yeah, he did called 2474 03:06:04,400 --> 03:06:07,720 Speaker 1: me to get Spliff he he That was Spliff directly 2475 03:06:09,200 --> 03:06:10,760 Speaker 1: telling me how long I've been a real thing. I 2476 03:06:10,800 --> 03:06:18,520 Speaker 1: think that's real. Bro Bro Bruin called me to be like, Yo, 2477 03:06:18,760 --> 03:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I need you to get your artists Spliff. No, he 2478 03:06:21,400 --> 03:06:24,560 Speaker 1: had his own relationship with Spliff. Spliff had his own 2479 03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:28,320 Speaker 1: relationship with him. When I heard that was happening, I 2480 03:06:28,520 --> 03:06:31,039 Speaker 1: was like, oh oh yeah, I think this ain't leave 2481 03:06:31,120 --> 03:06:35,520 Speaker 1: the me off this. But let's be clear, Buck always 2482 03:06:35,600 --> 03:06:38,000 Speaker 1: asked it. I did the moon walk slide up in 2483 03:06:38,040 --> 03:06:40,800 Speaker 1: that motherfucker and ended up on that record to fuck 2484 03:06:40,879 --> 03:06:44,040 Speaker 1: you mean man when they had Driver's Seat from R. 2485 03:06:44,120 --> 03:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Waring Port. Everybody thinks that you were on this record 2486 03:06:49,840 --> 03:06:54,280 Speaker 1: and Electra didn't clip, so what happened It was never 2487 03:06:54,400 --> 03:06:56,560 Speaker 1: that they did never even asked me the round on it, 2488 03:06:57,640 --> 03:07:00,040 Speaker 1: just talking and handing the dude with new Electra, not 2489 03:07:00,160 --> 03:07:03,680 Speaker 1: to clear battle. They only wanted me to talk. My 2490 03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:06,120 Speaker 1: brother didn't want me to rap. They just wanted me 2491 03:07:06,200 --> 03:07:10,720 Speaker 1: to talk. No, But that's the us. That's my point. 2492 03:07:10,920 --> 03:07:18,160 Speaker 1: The movie is he just said he didn't not they 2493 03:07:18,200 --> 03:07:20,920 Speaker 1: did asked me to round. That's the that's the truth. 2494 03:07:23,600 --> 03:07:27,080 Speaker 1: The clearance was not denied because they didn't act for 2495 03:07:27,920 --> 03:07:31,320 Speaker 1: verse to begin with. But the source had grown an 2496 03:07:31,480 --> 03:07:35,879 Speaker 1: article and it was like, what's the and now because 2497 03:07:35,920 --> 03:07:39,200 Speaker 1: what happened was music made these stucks calmed down and 2498 03:07:39,400 --> 03:07:44,879 Speaker 1: NASA and they related these two records. And what happened 2499 03:07:45,080 --> 03:07:50,880 Speaker 1: was he's right because I just you know, it was 2500 03:07:50,959 --> 03:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the last thing on on on the album. But it 2501 03:07:55,800 --> 03:07:59,400 Speaker 1: seemed like it didn't clear because Boss was such a 2502 03:08:00,440 --> 03:08:05,279 Speaker 1: a big artist. Remember nas the music we stuff come downs, 2503 03:08:05,320 --> 03:08:07,840 Speaker 1: not only the word word and buts not. You're not 2504 03:08:07,959 --> 03:08:10,400 Speaker 1: credit on the scene that either, are you. I don't 2505 03:08:10,480 --> 03:08:14,360 Speaker 1: recall he I don't think he's credit on that because 2506 03:08:14,360 --> 03:08:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that was a discrepancy as DJ. Youre like, 2507 03:08:18,879 --> 03:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't see the person I know is on the 2508 03:08:21,600 --> 03:08:24,840 Speaker 1: record credit on the record. So that's the reason why. 2509 03:08:25,440 --> 03:08:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, it was my time. It was like, Yo, 2510 03:08:28,400 --> 03:08:32,920 Speaker 1: you know what, if I'm gonna fail, I'm gonna go 2511 03:08:33,200 --> 03:08:37,160 Speaker 1: to the top. I'm gonna do it my way. And 2512 03:08:37,240 --> 03:08:43,920 Speaker 1: I remember so I said fuck it and I called 2513 03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you spend. I said, yo, man, I want you to 2514 03:08:47,560 --> 03:08:52,320 Speaker 1: drop my balls and you in my mind that cool 2515 03:08:53,000 --> 03:08:56,520 Speaker 1: surprised the shoot out of me because it came from 2516 03:08:56,560 --> 03:09:03,480 Speaker 1: an MC that I paid very close attention to, not 2517 03:09:03,680 --> 03:09:06,520 Speaker 1: just because of his lyrics, but i'm a i'm A. 2518 03:09:07,160 --> 03:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I played. I played the drums. I don't think people notice. 2519 03:09:12,440 --> 03:09:15,800 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I know people don't notice. Sorry, 2520 03:09:17,879 --> 03:09:20,400 Speaker 1: I played the drums. I got my first remo drums set, 2521 03:09:21,080 --> 03:09:24,119 Speaker 1: six piece remo drum set when I was eight years old, 2522 03:09:24,480 --> 03:09:29,800 Speaker 1: my father, six hundred dollar drum set. It was blue 2523 03:09:30,240 --> 03:09:35,960 Speaker 1: with white skins on my Tom Tom snares in my 2524 03:09:36,200 --> 03:09:42,880 Speaker 1: kick drum. And i'm a i'm a. I'm a very 2525 03:09:43,080 --> 03:09:48,520 Speaker 1: rhythmic motherfucker. So when it comes to rhyming, being in 2526 03:09:48,640 --> 03:09:51,320 Speaker 1: the pocket of a beat and becoming an instrument with 2527 03:09:51,440 --> 03:09:55,000 Speaker 1: the music is intricately important to me. It's not just 2528 03:09:55,160 --> 03:10:00,200 Speaker 1: about how cool you could say ship, It's about how 2529 03:10:00,680 --> 03:10:04,760 Speaker 1: amazingly a cool how amazingly cool you can say ship 2530 03:10:05,040 --> 03:10:07,760 Speaker 1: in the pocket, in the pocket and in the rhythm 2531 03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:12,080 Speaker 1: and rhythm and in the timing. That makes the feeling 2532 03:10:12,920 --> 03:10:16,119 Speaker 1: so much more exuberant, because me and another motherfucker could 2533 03:10:16,120 --> 03:10:19,720 Speaker 1: say the same rap, but my timing and how I'm 2534 03:10:19,760 --> 03:10:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna marry the pocket of where I'm gonna sit, the syllables, 2535 03:10:23,760 --> 03:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the bars diverse, the metaphors, the punchlines, in the pocket 2536 03:10:27,879 --> 03:10:30,400 Speaker 1: of the beat, and how I marry That it's gonna 2537 03:10:30,400 --> 03:10:33,800 Speaker 1: be different from your time and in your pocket flow. Yeah, 2538 03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:36,000 Speaker 1: because the feeling is going to be different from how 2539 03:10:36,080 --> 03:10:38,000 Speaker 1: it resonates with me and how it resonates with you. 2540 03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:46,760 Speaker 1: So with that being said, that one component distinguishes, distinguishes 2541 03:10:46,800 --> 03:10:49,760 Speaker 1: the difference between how you feel about my rhyme when 2542 03:10:49,800 --> 03:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I say it and how you feel about the same 2543 03:10:52,360 --> 03:10:58,400 Speaker 1: rhyme when somebody else say it. So I was so 2544 03:10:58,600 --> 03:11:07,240 Speaker 1: definitively that at my point is this nor me. This 2545 03:11:07,360 --> 03:11:11,400 Speaker 1: is circling back with your circle, This is just circling 2546 03:11:11,440 --> 03:11:14,400 Speaker 1: back to you. This is this is why it was 2547 03:11:14,480 --> 03:11:16,600 Speaker 1: a big deal to me when you called sliff. So 2548 03:11:16,720 --> 03:11:25,440 Speaker 1: let me finish making my point. Yes, yes, yes, So 2549 03:11:25,879 --> 03:11:30,160 Speaker 1: when the First World Report album came out and I 2550 03:11:30,240 --> 03:11:35,000 Speaker 1: heard Tire went why niggas trash shipped on me make history? 2551 03:11:35,160 --> 03:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Supposedly I was the man who was supposed to be 2552 03:11:38,480 --> 03:11:42,120 Speaker 1: ahead of the click when he did that line, don't 2553 03:11:42,160 --> 03:11:45,360 Speaker 1: would die smoke bogy when I'm like, you know me, 2554 03:11:45,840 --> 03:11:48,440 Speaker 1: shoot up your black act like you know me? When 2555 03:11:48,560 --> 03:11:59,680 Speaker 1: where you start down and white ball pop? Now, waid 2556 03:12:00,920 --> 03:12:08,280 Speaker 1: that nigga said, dining across like a Christian nigga. He's 2557 03:12:09,320 --> 03:12:14,880 Speaker 1: out let me players, Now, let me explain something. Let 2558 03:12:14,920 --> 03:12:21,240 Speaker 1: me explain something, Nix, No, my bucking. This is bone 2559 03:12:21,320 --> 03:12:23,280 Speaker 1: chilling rap. This is what we used to call that 2560 03:12:24,320 --> 03:12:28,680 Speaker 1: bone chilling rap. W know what we was going through? 2561 03:12:30,160 --> 03:12:39,640 Speaker 1: This something cool? Din across like a Christian you w 2562 03:12:41,400 --> 03:12:46,000 Speaker 1: let's do nigger, Let me splay something. The lyrics is 2563 03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:52,320 Speaker 1: one fans his voice and the pocket that that ground 2564 03:12:52,480 --> 03:12:57,000 Speaker 1: was sitting in was making me feel a little nervous 2565 03:12:57,320 --> 03:13:01,760 Speaker 1: about snack. I called Chris Letty. I told y'all gonna 2566 03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:03,800 Speaker 1: tell his story in the earlier part of the show. 2567 03:13:04,879 --> 03:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I called Chris Litty. I said, Chris, we need this 2568 03:13:07,920 --> 03:13:14,440 Speaker 1: thing on the team. Sign him. Now you knew I've 2569 03:13:14,520 --> 03:13:21,000 Speaker 1: told Chris to sign Normy Now and Chris signed normy 2570 03:13:21,320 --> 03:13:31,200 Speaker 1: on my word, and then they put a plaque on 2571 03:13:31,240 --> 03:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the wall every single time a project came out after 2572 03:13:34,560 --> 03:13:39,640 Speaker 1: that discussion and on all e Melvin Flint's every fucking 2573 03:13:39,720 --> 03:13:44,880 Speaker 1: thing after that. At some point there's nothing I don't 2574 03:13:44,920 --> 03:13:51,280 Speaker 1: know only nothing. Were not establishing, were not establish This 2575 03:13:51,440 --> 03:13:57,720 Speaker 1: is what we established it. We are establishing the fact 2576 03:13:57,800 --> 03:14:03,880 Speaker 1: that I don't think people realize. See, everybody is so 2577 03:14:04,760 --> 03:14:09,480 Speaker 1: caught up in the new norm success that they forget 2578 03:14:09,760 --> 03:14:14,720 Speaker 1: the origin of Norway history. Well, I'm not gonna lie, boss, 2579 03:14:15,360 --> 03:14:18,960 Speaker 1: today it's about you, and I don't want to about us. 2580 03:14:19,200 --> 03:14:29,800 Speaker 1: How about that? It's about us pleasure what? But I'm 2581 03:14:29,800 --> 03:14:35,280 Speaker 1: gonna be honest, Boss, I get no better pleasure, oh 2582 03:14:35,760 --> 03:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, bigging up, and I get no better bloodure 2583 03:14:43,080 --> 03:14:46,520 Speaker 1: biging up my own brother person that I really love 2584 03:14:46,600 --> 03:14:51,040 Speaker 1: and respect. But all that, I was a fan of 2585 03:14:51,120 --> 03:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you before I even knew who you were. And that's 2586 03:14:55,480 --> 03:15:00,200 Speaker 1: so beautiful because I can sit here. That's that's why 2587 03:15:00,280 --> 03:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I do drink Champs. It's because I don't want to 2588 03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:15,280 Speaker 1: pick up people, and you were someone. I love you, bro, 2589 03:15:16,920 --> 03:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I love you, bro. Finish. I know we fought from 2590 03:15:20,720 --> 03:15:22,680 Speaker 1: finishing this, this is the this is the thing that 2591 03:15:22,800 --> 03:15:29,080 Speaker 1: y'all don't understand this opportunity. I'm getting a ship. But 2592 03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:33,560 Speaker 1: if and the Nori this this is over all right, 2593 03:15:33,600 --> 03:15:36,520 Speaker 1: So how Patty La Belle that god Gladys Knight did it? 2594 03:15:36,560 --> 03:15:39,160 Speaker 1: On the verses, they was like yo collectively between the 2595 03:15:39,200 --> 03:15:41,160 Speaker 1: two of them, it was like a hundred of years ago. 2596 03:15:43,840 --> 03:15:48,160 Speaker 1: It was like like like a hundred episode we ever 2597 03:15:48,320 --> 03:15:54,080 Speaker 1: did and never use when you asked. But let's say why. 2598 03:15:55,600 --> 03:15:58,440 Speaker 1: Let's say why. The reason why we did not use 2599 03:15:58,560 --> 03:16:03,160 Speaker 1: the drink champs that we shot before was because Norrie 2600 03:16:04,320 --> 03:16:08,199 Speaker 1: went blank on me because his brother no let me finish. 2601 03:16:09,240 --> 03:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Norwy's brother, close friend, dear friend died in the middle 2602 03:16:15,280 --> 03:16:19,560 Speaker 1: of our interview and the beginning, and Normy got the 2603 03:16:19,760 --> 03:16:24,240 Speaker 1: email or the text excuse me as we were starting. 2604 03:16:24,879 --> 03:16:30,360 Speaker 1: He gave you was there and was like, no, he died. 2605 03:16:30,520 --> 03:16:34,760 Speaker 1: He died when he was he was going to and 2606 03:16:34,879 --> 03:16:39,920 Speaker 1: he he was dying or care a little bit. Brother. 2607 03:16:40,040 --> 03:16:44,200 Speaker 1: He didn't ask me a question for thirty minutes straight. Ye, 2608 03:16:45,240 --> 03:16:48,480 Speaker 1: And I saw something was wrong, so I kept talking 2609 03:16:48,640 --> 03:16:52,800 Speaker 1: to try to fake that something was wrong. And and 2610 03:16:54,440 --> 03:16:56,920 Speaker 1: when I realized that I was going too long without him, 2611 03:16:56,920 --> 03:17:00,240 Speaker 1: saying something to me, I said, this can't be done 2612 03:17:00,320 --> 03:17:03,720 Speaker 1: this way. We just came off of doing Drink Champs 2613 03:17:03,760 --> 03:17:08,160 Speaker 1: with trial. You're so beautiful and that was so powerful. 2614 03:17:08,640 --> 03:17:12,000 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not selling it. I don't 2615 03:17:12,080 --> 03:17:15,039 Speaker 1: want no ship that ain't gonna be it ain't gonna 2616 03:17:15,080 --> 03:17:18,800 Speaker 1: meet that standard or be great. So we can't put 2617 03:17:18,879 --> 03:17:22,080 Speaker 1: this out. Let me take what I appreciate the most, 2618 03:17:22,800 --> 03:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that you are honored that request. You know what, Let's 2619 03:17:26,000 --> 03:17:30,760 Speaker 1: tell me if we don't two hundred episodes, never can 2620 03:17:32,480 --> 03:17:34,960 Speaker 1: the only he's the only one we've ever done, the 2621 03:17:35,120 --> 03:17:39,120 Speaker 1: only one we ever can. But when you but the 2622 03:17:39,200 --> 03:17:42,760 Speaker 1: beautiful thing is this, this is the difference. I could 2623 03:17:42,920 --> 03:17:46,200 Speaker 1: understand and really appreciate that if I was the one 2624 03:17:46,320 --> 03:17:48,480 Speaker 1: that said I don't want it to come on because 2625 03:17:48,680 --> 03:17:55,640 Speaker 1: I was just on some extra seven ship. Right, ain't 2626 03:17:55,680 --> 03:17:57,760 Speaker 1: the right word that applies to women, but what I'm 2627 03:17:57,760 --> 03:18:00,160 Speaker 1: saying that, But I was like, if I was on 2628 03:18:00,320 --> 03:18:05,440 Speaker 1: some extra dudes extra I said the ship and y'all 2629 03:18:05,520 --> 03:18:07,720 Speaker 1: honor it, I would have been like, damn, I was 2630 03:18:07,840 --> 03:18:10,800 Speaker 1: really being a little selfish and then considerate. But no, 2631 03:18:11,520 --> 03:18:13,800 Speaker 1: I was also being sensitive to what my brother was 2632 03:18:13,879 --> 03:18:16,320 Speaker 1: going right now, and you didn't know that. You said 2633 03:18:16,600 --> 03:18:18,880 Speaker 1: you knew it after you said to me there was 2634 03:18:18,959 --> 03:18:21,600 Speaker 1: something wrong about that ship. So I looked at I know, 2635 03:18:21,959 --> 03:18:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't look at no episode. So when you I 2636 03:18:26,440 --> 03:18:29,760 Speaker 1: looked back at it, and I give you the same 2637 03:18:30,520 --> 03:18:33,080 Speaker 1: intro that I gave you. Heah. I tried to at least, 2638 03:18:34,000 --> 03:18:38,640 Speaker 1: but it's made it intro that you got the news. 2639 03:18:38,840 --> 03:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I've just killed it. It was it 2640 03:18:43,720 --> 03:18:46,680 Speaker 1: was three different messages that got I don't want to 2641 03:18:46,720 --> 03:18:50,480 Speaker 1: be like to too. It's like, yo, slib just killed yourself. 2642 03:18:51,280 --> 03:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Slig By shot Slane got Birdie. So I don't know 2643 03:18:59,160 --> 03:19:03,360 Speaker 1: how answer what you want because I got my bro. 2644 03:19:04,160 --> 03:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Youre in the moment of some other ship. No, I 2645 03:19:07,360 --> 03:19:10,080 Speaker 1: couldn't even comprehend what she was dealing with it. So 2646 03:19:10,240 --> 03:19:12,760 Speaker 1: this is why then when we started it, this is 2647 03:19:13,879 --> 03:19:18,240 Speaker 1: we got the great good spot everything we in Miami 2648 03:19:18,320 --> 03:19:26,120 Speaker 1: ship super se as. I give you the enjoy like 2649 03:19:26,280 --> 03:19:27,680 Speaker 1: boom and that you hit me And I was like, 2650 03:19:28,000 --> 03:19:33,240 Speaker 1: oh that's why when you hit me, I'm not sure 2651 03:19:33,879 --> 03:19:36,800 Speaker 1: you we were all there and the same and sink 2652 03:19:37,240 --> 03:19:42,120 Speaker 1: it is the word. No. I saw the pain, bro, Yeah, 2653 03:19:42,720 --> 03:19:47,160 Speaker 1: I I saw that pain, bro, And and and it was. 2654 03:19:47,879 --> 03:19:51,800 Speaker 1: It was terrible what she wasn't during at that time, 2655 03:19:51,920 --> 03:19:56,840 Speaker 1: and I just I just tried to disguise it as 2656 03:19:56,920 --> 03:19:58,960 Speaker 1: much as I could. And when I realized that I 2657 03:19:59,120 --> 03:20:03,600 Speaker 1: was talking oh long and you couldn't even like, I 2658 03:20:03,800 --> 03:20:06,200 Speaker 1: was hoping that there was a moment Bro would be 2659 03:20:06,280 --> 03:20:11,520 Speaker 1: able to feed off of me keeping it going. That 2660 03:20:13,400 --> 03:20:17,119 Speaker 1: his tire was flat and it never got it flazed again. 2661 03:20:19,160 --> 03:20:23,120 Speaker 1: It was crazy. You were sitting right there. You were 2662 03:20:23,240 --> 03:20:30,800 Speaker 1: sitting right there. You didn't know because you know, but 2663 03:20:30,959 --> 03:20:34,720 Speaker 1: you you you you also, I didn't say nothing because 2664 03:20:34,840 --> 03:20:38,360 Speaker 1: you you realize something wasn't right, but you didn't know 2665 03:20:38,480 --> 03:20:43,080 Speaker 1: what it was. And I'm looking at you also hoping 2666 03:20:43,840 --> 03:20:46,960 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't jump in and give me something. And 2667 03:20:47,240 --> 03:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the two years just was because you someone sick with him. 2668 03:20:50,600 --> 03:20:53,640 Speaker 1: Y'all feet off each other. So when you wasn't getting 2669 03:20:53,680 --> 03:20:56,840 Speaker 1: it from him, he was like, you're trying to figure 2670 03:20:56,879 --> 03:21:01,080 Speaker 1: out your brother. You're trying to help figure chip brother 2671 03:21:01,680 --> 03:21:04,039 Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out because he wasn't telling you anyway 2672 03:21:04,040 --> 03:21:06,440 Speaker 1: you know what was going on, so so you you 2673 03:21:06,640 --> 03:21:09,520 Speaker 1: trying to help him and can't. You're trying to help 2674 03:21:09,600 --> 03:21:12,320 Speaker 1: me and can't. So you never he was in a 2675 03:21:12,400 --> 03:21:19,920 Speaker 1: whole Another fund was finished too, and he didn't even 2676 03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:24,560 Speaker 1: know why. It just was the energy was wrong and 2677 03:21:24,879 --> 03:21:29,640 Speaker 1: we needed to gubt it. That was it for that. 2678 03:21:33,840 --> 03:21:37,640 Speaker 1: Just so y'all know why we applauded, and it is 2679 03:21:37,720 --> 03:21:42,240 Speaker 1: because we're being sensitive to each other's pain, which is 2680 03:21:42,320 --> 03:21:44,600 Speaker 1: what a lot of motherfucker's need to learn how to do. 2681 03:21:45,560 --> 03:21:51,280 Speaker 1: He he each other's crush, keep each other up. That 2682 03:21:51,360 --> 03:21:54,920 Speaker 1: ship is important about you the first birth. You checked 2683 03:21:54,920 --> 03:21:57,080 Speaker 1: me on it, and we did it, and they want 2684 03:21:57,080 --> 03:21:59,279 Speaker 1: to look back on it because I could. I couldn't 2685 03:21:59,320 --> 03:22:02,480 Speaker 1: understand that first. We look back on it, and I said, damn, 2686 03:22:03,080 --> 03:22:07,240 Speaker 1: I understood. I was still when we was at the angle, 2687 03:22:07,879 --> 03:22:10,640 Speaker 1: and I understood that I couldn't have ever done what 2688 03:22:10,720 --> 03:22:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing right now. I couldn't have ever done that. 2689 03:22:13,520 --> 03:22:16,040 Speaker 1: This is you know you every Bardey is that trun 2690 03:22:17,440 --> 03:22:24,480 Speaker 1: of course one a little big brother. How does body 2691 03:22:24,720 --> 03:22:27,160 Speaker 1: trying to start? Motherfucker? You want to jump in here? 2692 03:22:27,200 --> 03:22:41,480 Speaker 1: Look like Louis? How does bard drum start? Don't don't 2693 03:22:41,520 --> 03:22:47,160 Speaker 1: google to enduell Come on? Got another ball, guy, man? 2694 03:22:48,200 --> 03:22:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what I credit him for that? I quit 2695 03:22:51,440 --> 03:23:01,000 Speaker 1: him for that. Another ball? Say brother, let him see 2696 03:23:01,000 --> 03:23:05,440 Speaker 1: it here because you said not how fun with you 2697 03:23:06,240 --> 03:23:13,080 Speaker 1: the strong way. I fought with you for that, So 2698 03:23:13,520 --> 03:23:18,960 Speaker 1: that's a beautiful So that's that. And then as we 2699 03:23:19,240 --> 03:23:21,560 Speaker 1: me and Boss dr Bottle. You see how the gold 2700 03:23:21,600 --> 03:23:24,200 Speaker 1: minks lay different, right, you see, guy, I don't know 2701 03:23:24,240 --> 03:23:28,600 Speaker 1: if y'all peep it. It's a little soul you see Guys. 2702 03:23:28,680 --> 03:23:31,120 Speaker 1: You see link laying around his neck different now right, 2703 03:23:32,200 --> 03:23:34,160 Speaker 1: she was going around his neck the wrong way. May 2704 03:23:34,400 --> 03:23:42,160 Speaker 1: fix that, gold Links. The gold links is laying right now. Shine. 2705 03:23:44,920 --> 03:23:48,960 Speaker 1: You never fell off, that's an impossibility, But love it. 2706 03:23:48,959 --> 03:23:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I've been. I've been, I've been, 2707 03:23:56,440 --> 03:24:02,200 Speaker 1: I've been humble this whole Drink Champs episode. I was 2708 03:24:02,320 --> 03:24:07,000 Speaker 1: also taught the whole my jounction with Bridena. You know, 2709 03:24:10,040 --> 03:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm never going to fall off because I love it 2710 03:24:12,800 --> 03:24:15,920 Speaker 1: too much. I'm I'm too much in love with the 2711 03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:19,039 Speaker 1: culture of the game and great to me and my family, 2712 03:24:20,520 --> 03:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know what else has offered me 2713 03:24:26,480 --> 03:24:29,240 Speaker 1: a greater opportunity to be able to do something that 2714 03:24:29,320 --> 03:24:31,160 Speaker 1: I love and be able to take care of my 2715 03:24:31,280 --> 03:24:36,120 Speaker 1: family simultaneously in such a profound way. At the same time. 2716 03:24:37,840 --> 03:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I can't credit nothing when it comes to that outside 2717 03:24:42,560 --> 03:24:47,440 Speaker 1: of the culture other than to the most high all 2718 03:24:47,520 --> 03:24:54,840 Speaker 1: praises due to a lot because I don't want to 2719 03:24:54,840 --> 03:25:01,200 Speaker 1: ask you in between between like not not where you 2720 03:25:01,320 --> 03:25:03,640 Speaker 1: at now, like but sho, you're enough a lot of 2721 03:25:03,680 --> 03:25:11,760 Speaker 1: bitches down. Let's just let's be clear. Let's be clear. 2722 03:25:11,959 --> 03:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Let's I love your nor you nor nor nor no 2723 03:25:30,800 --> 03:25:35,280 Speaker 1: yeah yeah blow, You're not a lot of bitches down. 2724 03:25:35,520 --> 03:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Let me bad Nick. It's bad Nick, bad Nick, get back, 2725 03:25:40,520 --> 03:25:46,800 Speaker 1: get back. Anybody anybody had it back in its go north. 2726 03:25:47,360 --> 03:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I feel like you go everywhere to train together, Like 2727 03:25:50,400 --> 03:25:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I like nor met Michael Jackson. Let's be clear, 2728 03:25:54,640 --> 03:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Yes I have met Michael Jackson. I'm here to make 2729 03:26:02,959 --> 03:26:16,240 Speaker 1: noise for money. Jackson. It's like you about any nonory 2730 03:26:17,520 --> 03:26:24,440 Speaker 1: defuely a fan for pulling back up. I even please 2731 03:26:24,920 --> 03:26:30,000 Speaker 1: close this bit trapper closing our just this bear trapp. 2732 03:26:30,480 --> 03:26:33,320 Speaker 1: We just tak my head here thinking about where we're 2733 03:26:33,360 --> 03:26:38,560 Speaker 1: like already it's crazy they're talking about that to do 2734 03:26:38,640 --> 03:26:43,520 Speaker 1: the knockdown her life, Like, well, well got this, let's stop. Listen. 2735 03:26:48,000 --> 03:26:55,120 Speaker 1: We've lived, We've all lived. Yes, I'm in a very 2736 03:26:57,600 --> 03:27:03,160 Speaker 1: peaceful and tranquil space. I don't I'm not entertaining the 2737 03:27:03,280 --> 03:27:08,200 Speaker 1: games and the bullshit at the stage of my life. Brother, Um, 2738 03:27:09,760 --> 03:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just. I'll back 2739 03:27:14,160 --> 03:27:18,720 Speaker 1: back back back then. Nori was left back then. We're 2740 03:27:18,760 --> 03:27:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna leave back then, back then. In the current time 2741 03:27:22,720 --> 03:27:31,640 Speaker 1: and space, though, and right now, you gotta respected we 2742 03:27:31,959 --> 03:27:35,800 Speaker 1: we we we we the elite group, you know, Yes, 2743 03:27:37,080 --> 03:27:39,920 Speaker 1: we got we got we got queens now, bro, we 2744 03:27:40,080 --> 03:27:43,959 Speaker 1: got royal empresses now before That's what I'm saying. I'm 2745 03:27:44,000 --> 03:27:46,320 Speaker 1: talking about that before too, And I said, we're gonna 2746 03:27:46,400 --> 03:27:50,720 Speaker 1: leave the before in the before. That's what we're gonna do. 2747 03:27:52,840 --> 03:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Because when I'm gonna ask you, was this You're not 2748 03:27:55,240 --> 03:27:59,440 Speaker 1: down a whole lot of nastiness though before your wife. Okay, cool, 2749 03:27:59,640 --> 03:28:10,760 Speaker 1: that's why you wearing the moss. Just be clear. I've 2750 03:28:10,800 --> 03:28:19,240 Speaker 1: never had to put your never coming to America video. Hey, bro, right, 2751 03:28:19,440 --> 03:28:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about what you got at that time. 2752 03:28:22,400 --> 03:28:27,880 Speaker 1: I want to come into America. All the coming to 2753 03:28:27,920 --> 03:28:34,640 Speaker 1: America people, anybody, anybody, anybody can't tell America. That's the 2754 03:28:34,680 --> 03:28:39,080 Speaker 1: only want to get into America. There you want to 2755 03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:47,440 Speaker 1: get I'm sorry, I want to. I was like, what 2756 03:28:48,520 --> 03:28:52,640 Speaker 1: the fund is wrong with your little jack brother? What's 2757 03:28:52,680 --> 03:28:58,119 Speaker 1: wrong with doing? Can't see? You can't see what's wrong? 2758 03:28:58,320 --> 03:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Long would do? Jack? Man? Yo, listen, he gotta get 2759 03:29:02,720 --> 03:29:07,120 Speaker 1: a fun. That's like work. You don't want be working. 2760 03:29:07,160 --> 03:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm working on the same cannot as ye talk that 2761 03:29:17,160 --> 03:29:21,360 Speaker 1: ship Jack and blood. You can't talk that ship jack, 2762 03:29:23,920 --> 03:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the fact ship the boss you did. You did not 2763 03:29:27,879 --> 03:29:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of ship down. Yeah, man, that's not hip 2764 03:29:30,720 --> 03:29:33,840 Speaker 1: hop that ship like that? Man, I like I like 2765 03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:36,160 Speaker 1: boys normal, we get a lot of movies. Normally. I 2766 03:29:36,240 --> 03:29:40,280 Speaker 1: had my fun. I had my fun. I didn't like 2767 03:29:40,400 --> 03:29:43,920 Speaker 1: it was something not saying you say, man, oh man, 2768 03:29:44,040 --> 03:29:49,280 Speaker 1: not that. I don't think he went to that home ship. Man, 2769 03:29:49,560 --> 03:30:08,600 Speaker 1: oh man, I don't that you say, oh man, you 2770 03:30:10,120 --> 03:30:24,080 Speaker 1: check the stop, check up door every Let me how 2771 03:30:24,120 --> 03:30:25,680 Speaker 1: you jump? I told my vat in the day, I'm 2772 03:30:28,840 --> 03:30:33,800 Speaker 1: everyone to say something. I got this phone. Stop stop, 2773 03:30:34,480 --> 03:30:43,400 Speaker 1: let anybody stop. He was slitch sto. This is rap? 2774 03:30:43,560 --> 03:30:45,960 Speaker 1: Are you a slitch? This is ra I ask you 2775 03:30:46,000 --> 03:30:48,960 Speaker 1: a question, i't even answer. Okay, cool. So then we 2776 03:30:49,200 --> 03:30:57,160 Speaker 1: just ended this part of the time. When you ask 2777 03:30:57,240 --> 03:31:01,400 Speaker 1: me sick, don't stay you would have can be I 2778 03:31:02,959 --> 03:31:08,360 Speaker 1: can ye. Are you a snitch? Stuff? No one's going 2779 03:31:08,440 --> 03:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to jail, are you? This is not the shots right quick. 2780 03:31:24,560 --> 03:31:26,640 Speaker 1: I was for the tenants of the y when we 2781 03:31:26,680 --> 03:31:38,560 Speaker 1: were quick yo, Queen, Queen, Queen ship I got I 2782 03:31:38,640 --> 03:31:40,600 Speaker 1: got to do it. Yes, I have to do what 2783 03:31:40,920 --> 03:31:47,920 Speaker 1: you do and need Yes, everybody, anybody's silence, Queen? Do 2784 03:31:48,040 --> 03:31:57,440 Speaker 1: you being this question appropriate? Yes? She's bad guy? Get 2785 03:31:58,360 --> 03:32:04,119 Speaker 1: this last question appropriate? Thank you? Queen? What question? The program? 2786 03:32:05,879 --> 03:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Who you got knocked? Damn it out of n't gonna 2787 03:32:11,520 --> 03:32:17,039 Speaker 1: be fun? What do you finger pop? It did not fingerpower? 2788 03:32:17,160 --> 03:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, it's crazy gonna say you may have one 2789 03:32:27,360 --> 03:32:42,280 Speaker 1: of your son Sam second Martin, I don't mper amperaver one. 2790 03:32:42,440 --> 03:32:57,080 Speaker 1: That shady talasin. Ready, that's quay, I'm ready good Thomasine, 2791 03:32:58,600 --> 03:33:03,959 Speaker 1: I mean a shout purpose it is really quick. Hold, 2792 03:33:04,000 --> 03:33:06,879 Speaker 1: hold hold up, you know you know what's what's interesting 2793 03:33:06,959 --> 03:33:11,880 Speaker 1: is I told Nori because of my transformation journey and 2794 03:33:11,959 --> 03:33:14,000 Speaker 1: this health reasurement, and I've been on for the last 2795 03:33:14,120 --> 03:33:17,640 Speaker 1: year and a half, and I wasn't gonna drink, but 2796 03:33:18,680 --> 03:33:24,320 Speaker 1: I realized that we're living in a time where I 2797 03:33:24,440 --> 03:33:28,960 Speaker 1: think it's important to share with people how much it 2798 03:33:29,160 --> 03:33:34,360 Speaker 1: is to be able to celebrate life regardless of how 2799 03:33:34,600 --> 03:33:40,880 Speaker 1: fucked up these recent circumstances have been. You know, they 2800 03:33:40,879 --> 03:33:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't took every civil liberty of away from us. I 2801 03:33:44,879 --> 03:33:48,200 Speaker 1: think we don't realize how dangerous of the time that 2802 03:33:48,280 --> 03:33:51,040 Speaker 1: we live in in. They didn't told the common man 2803 03:33:51,120 --> 03:33:53,320 Speaker 1: that really want to earn an honest living that he 2804 03:33:53,360 --> 03:33:56,800 Speaker 1: can't go to work in earnest honest living. Like, what 2805 03:33:56,959 --> 03:33:59,560 Speaker 1: part of the game is that? And until motherfucker's we 2806 03:33:59,600 --> 03:34:02,040 Speaker 1: gotta put mask on it, we can't breathe freely or 2807 03:34:02,240 --> 03:34:04,440 Speaker 1: else you can get in trouble? What part of the 2808 03:34:04,560 --> 03:34:07,800 Speaker 1: game is that? And the niggas is complying to not 2809 03:34:07,920 --> 03:34:10,040 Speaker 1: asking no questions. I'm not saying to not be safe. 2810 03:34:10,879 --> 03:34:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to not deal with The nineteenth letter 2811 03:34:13,800 --> 03:34:18,320 Speaker 1: in the Supreme Alphabet called the letters self for savior. 2812 03:34:18,680 --> 03:34:21,960 Speaker 1: Save yourself before you save others. That's a survival instinct. 2813 03:34:22,640 --> 03:34:25,840 Speaker 1: That's before thinking for motherfucker to do something to you. 2814 03:34:25,920 --> 03:34:28,120 Speaker 1: You start dodging and moving out the way. You lose 2815 03:34:28,200 --> 03:34:30,920 Speaker 1: all everything that you look like to be cool. To 2816 03:34:31,000 --> 03:34:36,920 Speaker 1: save yourself, it's called instinct. Instinct is deeper than thought. 2817 03:34:39,840 --> 03:34:42,840 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying to you is if we're dealing 2818 03:34:42,920 --> 03:34:45,480 Speaker 1: with the knowledge born agreeing and supreme alphabet, which is 2819 03:34:45,520 --> 03:34:50,480 Speaker 1: the nineteenth letter in alphabet called survival instinct, which is 2820 03:34:50,520 --> 03:34:55,560 Speaker 1: self for savior, then that means that we should be 2821 03:34:55,720 --> 03:34:59,840 Speaker 1: questioning how do we save ourselves? And we're being told 2822 03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:04,600 Speaker 1: wear a mask. And when you wear the mask, it 2823 03:35:04,680 --> 03:35:09,039 Speaker 1: also creates health complications because you ain't supposed to recycle 2824 03:35:09,080 --> 03:35:14,440 Speaker 1: the attitude. Ex Hell, how about when you do that 2825 03:35:14,560 --> 03:35:20,160 Speaker 1: here child that was just being born recently, they ain't 2826 03:35:20,160 --> 03:35:22,440 Speaker 1: even experienced what it was like the breefe fresh air. 2827 03:35:23,320 --> 03:35:26,880 Speaker 1: But you're putting a mask on. How does that help 2828 03:35:26,959 --> 03:35:35,119 Speaker 1: their respiratory system developed? We just compliant without asking questions. 2829 03:35:36,160 --> 03:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying not to do it if it's the 2830 03:35:38,160 --> 03:35:44,120 Speaker 1: right thing to do, but when do we stop thinking 2831 03:35:44,200 --> 03:35:57,120 Speaker 1: for ourselves? That's what it's all about. It, that's what 2832 03:35:57,200 --> 03:35:59,760 Speaker 1: it's all about. I'm thinking all that. I'm really gner 2833 03:35:59,760 --> 03:36:05,840 Speaker 1: know off balls, Yeah, you know something, I'm gonna say 2834 03:36:05,879 --> 03:36:11,120 Speaker 1: something about that too. Right, this is Paul's talk. I 2835 03:36:11,160 --> 03:36:19,320 Speaker 1: can speak backs, not saying no, no, wait's gonna come back. 2836 03:36:19,480 --> 03:36:22,640 Speaker 1: You gotta gotta you, gotta, you gotta, you gotta sit 2837 03:36:22,680 --> 03:36:25,520 Speaker 1: here when you talk down to don't you little way, 2838 03:36:28,040 --> 03:36:33,200 Speaker 1: I can't show me hand to school? Ye listen, buster 2839 03:36:33,560 --> 03:36:49,120 Speaker 1: the pause talkin that waits another bus. One of the 2840 03:36:49,200 --> 03:36:53,720 Speaker 1: most seas bring hum ever in hip hop history. Yes, 2841 03:36:53,959 --> 03:36:58,800 Speaker 1: the lead when we were silence, silence, go ahead, Nory, 2842 03:36:58,920 --> 03:37:02,680 Speaker 1: it's the leading starting over one of the craziest breakups ever. 2843 03:37:03,400 --> 03:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Leads of the New School. Yes, all right, so you 2844 03:37:09,680 --> 03:37:13,720 Speaker 1: want me to get into that. That's right, all right, 2845 03:37:17,360 --> 03:37:20,280 Speaker 1: leave this to the New School. That's where it all 2846 03:37:20,360 --> 03:37:45,039 Speaker 1: began for me, right and nineteen eighty five, mm hmm. 2847 03:37:48,840 --> 03:38:02,800 Speaker 1: I was fifteen mm hmm. Excuse me. When I was 2848 03:38:02,920 --> 03:38:10,080 Speaker 1: thirteen nineteen eighty four. I went to a junior high 2849 03:38:10,120 --> 03:38:14,960 Speaker 1: school in Hampstead, Long Island, excuse me, and Uniondale, Long Island. 2850 03:38:18,440 --> 03:38:25,920 Speaker 1: I moved to Long Island after I caught too two 2851 03:38:26,040 --> 03:38:31,680 Speaker 1: charges for selling crack at twelve years old. Reaganvous Era, 2852 03:38:32,920 --> 03:38:36,840 Speaker 1: Reagan nomous ever and he's flappersh Brooklyn. My mother wasn't 2853 03:38:36,879 --> 03:38:41,160 Speaker 1: with it. He said, we gotta get you out of Brooklyn. 2854 03:38:41,959 --> 03:38:47,560 Speaker 1: I moved to Union There along Island, I met Charlie 2855 03:38:47,640 --> 03:38:52,240 Speaker 1: Brown and a brother by the name of Course, and 2856 03:38:53,760 --> 03:38:56,360 Speaker 1: a junior high school called Turtle Hook Junior High School. 2857 03:38:58,400 --> 03:39:01,520 Speaker 1: Because his rap name was history. He was the original 2858 03:39:01,640 --> 03:39:06,320 Speaker 1: third member before dink O d So it was me, 2859 03:39:06,520 --> 03:39:13,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown and Mystery quis a god both that's his 2860 03:39:13,480 --> 03:39:17,000 Speaker 1: first and last name. That's a serious name as your government, 2861 03:39:18,360 --> 03:39:26,200 Speaker 1: bigger the Quesse God Both. I know that man. I 2862 03:39:26,240 --> 03:39:28,680 Speaker 1: ain't seen that man since he left the group, and 2863 03:39:28,800 --> 03:39:32,160 Speaker 1: I ain't spoke to him since he left the group. Ironically, 2864 03:39:32,560 --> 03:39:35,760 Speaker 1: his younger brother Ken yak Got both started to tutor 2865 03:39:35,879 --> 03:39:42,640 Speaker 1: my children. His younger brother became like a scientist and 2866 03:39:42,720 --> 03:39:46,720 Speaker 1: a professor with education. He started to tune to my 2867 03:39:46,879 --> 03:39:51,200 Speaker 1: children and uh, big up to King yak got Bot, 2868 03:39:51,680 --> 03:40:00,920 Speaker 1: please big up King Yall God. So when Cous decided 2869 03:40:00,959 --> 03:40:02,920 Speaker 1: to leave the group, it was because he got into 2870 03:40:02,959 --> 03:40:06,480 Speaker 1: the Reaganomics era lifestyle and decided he didn't have the 2871 03:40:06,520 --> 03:40:09,439 Speaker 1: patience to wait on some rap ship to come to fruition. 2872 03:40:10,480 --> 03:40:12,840 Speaker 1: So he said, funk this ship. I'm not went waiting. 2873 03:40:12,879 --> 03:40:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get to this money in the street now, 2874 03:40:15,959 --> 03:40:19,840 Speaker 1: all right, I respect your big homie. So me and 2875 03:40:19,920 --> 03:40:23,080 Speaker 1: Brown the Wadi and Brown ended up becoming a part 2876 03:40:23,120 --> 03:40:27,440 Speaker 1: of a group. It was because Brown was rounding before me, 2877 03:40:28,600 --> 03:40:31,440 Speaker 1: so we and junior high school. Brown is two grades 2878 03:40:31,480 --> 03:40:33,520 Speaker 1: ahead of me. I'm in seventh grade and ninth grade. 2879 03:40:34,760 --> 03:40:37,160 Speaker 1: Dinker was in eighth grade. So it was seventh, eighth 2880 03:40:37,200 --> 03:40:40,920 Speaker 1: and ninth grade, and I had just moved Along Island 2881 03:40:40,959 --> 03:40:45,280 Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. Brown as a Long Island kid, I think 2882 03:40:45,320 --> 03:40:51,760 Speaker 1: he got Queen's history. Dinko was also a huh yeah. 2883 03:40:52,040 --> 03:40:56,400 Speaker 1: Brown was just trying to throw it on the bro 2884 03:40:56,600 --> 03:41:00,120 Speaker 1: got Queen's lineage. I know, I'm working with you to 2885 03:41:01,560 --> 03:41:08,280 Speaker 1: going home with this, but the facts are Brown has 2886 03:41:09,280 --> 03:41:14,360 Speaker 1: Queens lineage, Dinko got Brooklyn lineage. So and and my 2887 03:41:14,480 --> 03:41:17,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn lineage. We all urban city kids and we moved 2888 03:41:17,720 --> 03:41:20,480 Speaker 1: to the suburbs to try, you know, get this better 2889 03:41:20,560 --> 03:41:26,160 Speaker 1: lifestyle based on our parents in doctor Nations decision making. 2890 03:41:26,720 --> 03:41:29,360 Speaker 1: So fuck it, We're moving forward with this and be 2891 03:41:29,480 --> 03:41:32,480 Speaker 1: going along with it. So it was so on and 2892 03:41:32,600 --> 03:41:35,480 Speaker 1: so forth, whatever the case may be. And C. Brown 2893 03:41:35,600 --> 03:41:38,199 Speaker 1: was the MC that was the superstar junior high school. 2894 03:41:38,680 --> 03:41:41,280 Speaker 1: So one day we come out of the school and 2895 03:41:41,800 --> 03:41:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, everybody waiting to go home, and the school 2896 03:41:43,760 --> 03:41:45,600 Speaker 1: buses is picking up the kids to take them to 2897 03:41:45,640 --> 03:41:49,720 Speaker 1: their cribs and whatever. Junior high school kids that was 2898 03:41:49,800 --> 03:41:51,800 Speaker 1: the privileged kids that had their own cars. They was 2899 03:41:52,440 --> 03:41:55,280 Speaker 1: driving home with their friends or whatever. So me and 2900 03:41:55,400 --> 03:41:59,920 Speaker 1: Brown and a couple of kids in the school yard 2901 03:42:00,840 --> 03:42:05,680 Speaker 1: and I'm beat boxing for Brown and Brown is rhyming, 2902 03:42:06,800 --> 03:42:09,600 Speaker 1: and Brown ended up starting to diss me while I 2903 03:42:09,760 --> 03:42:18,320 Speaker 1: was beatboxing form. Damn, that's ruth. Listen, ain't that's where 2904 03:42:18,360 --> 03:42:21,240 Speaker 1: the hell started. It started right there. That's that's how 2905 03:42:21,320 --> 03:42:27,080 Speaker 1: me and Brown started this. Naked the fucking Jack Thriller 2906 03:42:28,080 --> 03:42:33,840 Speaker 1: stick at Jack Thriller, laughing at his nigger. Then Nika, see, 2907 03:42:33,920 --> 03:42:38,880 Speaker 1: Brown started this and me while I was beat boxing form. 2908 03:42:41,000 --> 03:42:43,960 Speaker 1: My stupid ass kept beat boxing form while he was 2909 03:42:45,120 --> 03:42:47,800 Speaker 1: how was it this though? What was it this to you? Hey, 2910 03:42:47,879 --> 03:42:53,240 Speaker 1: excuse me? Can carry another concoction? King, So how do 2911 03:42:53,280 --> 03:42:56,080 Speaker 1: you know he's this in you? He was flaquently this 2912 03:42:56,280 --> 03:42:59,720 Speaker 1: and me how how like? Who was he saying? I mean, 2913 03:42:59,800 --> 03:43:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember the bars, but this punch lines was 2914 03:43:02,280 --> 03:43:06,760 Speaker 1: directed at He just knew. No. He was saying my name, 2915 03:43:06,920 --> 03:43:12,720 Speaker 1: and there was no misconception about what's going on, right, 2916 03:43:17,120 --> 03:43:25,720 Speaker 1: there's no confusion about what's happening. He's here here, I'm 2917 03:43:25,760 --> 03:43:29,199 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I understand why he was asking no, questions, 2918 03:43:29,800 --> 03:43:31,760 Speaker 1: even though those questions kind of weird, but I know 2919 03:43:31,959 --> 03:43:35,760 Speaker 1: you was in disbelief too. That's why I had asked no, 2920 03:43:36,080 --> 03:43:39,160 Speaker 1: it didn't make no sense to me, didn't I didn't 2921 03:43:39,200 --> 03:43:44,119 Speaker 1: do nothing to initiate this disrespect from him. I think 2922 03:43:44,200 --> 03:43:49,120 Speaker 1: it probably came from the fact that I did have 2923 03:43:49,240 --> 03:43:53,560 Speaker 1: an appeal as the kid from Brooklyn in the school 2924 03:43:53,600 --> 03:43:56,840 Speaker 1: at the cool kid. I was a cool kid and 2925 03:43:58,600 --> 03:44:02,080 Speaker 1: whatever way it was interfering with his shine, he felt 2926 03:44:02,120 --> 03:44:05,000 Speaker 1: the need to shut that down, even though I didn't 2927 03:44:05,000 --> 03:44:06,880 Speaker 1: give him a reason. I was actually there is a 2928 03:44:06,959 --> 03:44:11,480 Speaker 1: support system for him. I'm be boxing phone, so he's 2929 03:44:11,520 --> 03:44:16,000 Speaker 1: shipping on me woman. But he didn't do it. He 2930 03:44:16,080 --> 03:44:18,480 Speaker 1: didn't do without the gate. That's the interesting part. It 2931 03:44:18,600 --> 03:44:21,240 Speaker 1: was like he was rocking for a minute and then 2932 03:44:21,280 --> 03:44:28,400 Speaker 1: he started to crack the whip. So I'm like, all right. 2933 03:44:31,000 --> 03:44:36,720 Speaker 1: I went home and I wrote my first rhynd and 2934 03:44:36,840 --> 03:44:42,880 Speaker 1: it was inspired by LLL. LLL is the reason I 2935 03:44:43,000 --> 03:44:49,160 Speaker 1: wrote my first rack record. It was It wasn't an 2936 03:44:49,320 --> 03:44:57,320 Speaker 1: LLL record, it was everything. He was my the aesthetic 2937 03:44:57,440 --> 03:45:01,080 Speaker 1: of LLL coo J. He was my favorite MC at 2938 03:45:01,120 --> 03:45:06,240 Speaker 1: the time. He was young, fly, full of energy and 2939 03:45:06,320 --> 03:45:09,560 Speaker 1: the motherfucker had big words and his ship that made 2940 03:45:09,600 --> 03:45:13,560 Speaker 1: him sound smart as fun while he was disrespecting you. 2941 03:45:14,000 --> 03:45:19,600 Speaker 1: And and again, like we spoke about earlier in the interview, 2942 03:45:21,600 --> 03:45:24,440 Speaker 1: at that time, it was super cool and important to 2943 03:45:24,720 --> 03:45:30,200 Speaker 1: be smart, remember that because the guard Nation of Zudal Nation. 2944 03:45:30,200 --> 03:45:34,320 Speaker 1: Remember I went into all of that already cool. So 2945 03:45:34,760 --> 03:45:38,760 Speaker 1: I took my bars and it was modeled after the 2946 03:45:38,800 --> 03:45:41,880 Speaker 1: way L L does his ship. And I came back 2947 03:45:42,560 --> 03:45:48,680 Speaker 1: the next day and I bust Brown ass m and 2948 03:45:48,840 --> 03:45:51,959 Speaker 1: Brown at that point realized he needed to align himself 2949 03:45:52,000 --> 03:45:53,640 Speaker 1: for me, when you can't beat him, he needed to 2950 03:45:53,760 --> 03:45:58,120 Speaker 1: join join what I'm saying. So when that happened, me 2951 03:45:58,200 --> 03:46:02,000 Speaker 1: and Brown became a crew. We wanted a third him, see, 2952 03:46:02,040 --> 03:46:07,000 Speaker 1: because we was modeling that with ship after Cold Cush Brothers. Wow, 2953 03:46:07,800 --> 03:46:10,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The original architects of the ship, 2954 03:46:12,520 --> 03:46:16,840 Speaker 1: the keepers of the culture. So for those who don't 2955 03:46:16,879 --> 03:46:19,840 Speaker 1: know who Cold Crush Brothers is, because some of y'all 2956 03:46:19,959 --> 03:46:22,760 Speaker 1: is young in here, these are some of the most 2957 03:46:22,840 --> 03:46:28,640 Speaker 1: incredible mcs to ever start this ship. And these m 2958 03:46:28,760 --> 03:46:33,720 Speaker 1: c s are also responsible for the most huge and 2959 03:46:34,040 --> 03:46:37,840 Speaker 1: historical hip hop records in history. When Ghost Riding was 2960 03:46:37,920 --> 03:46:41,200 Speaker 1: being introduced for the first time in the game. Grand 2961 03:46:41,240 --> 03:46:44,959 Speaker 1: Master Cash wrote Rappers Delight for sugar Hill Game Never Knew, 2962 03:46:46,120 --> 03:46:48,400 Speaker 1: and he was the captain of the Cold Qush Brothers. 2963 03:46:49,720 --> 03:46:52,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I just need got 2964 03:46:52,560 --> 03:46:58,320 Speaker 1: to learn ghost Right's been around narrow. This ain't nothing new. 2965 03:46:59,080 --> 03:47:01,640 Speaker 1: The only difference between now and then was niggas that 2966 03:47:01,760 --> 03:47:06,240 Speaker 1: take credit for the ghostwriter's work. I couldn't take credit 2967 03:47:06,320 --> 03:47:15,000 Speaker 1: for it before speak on it, but I mean I 2968 03:47:15,080 --> 03:47:18,280 Speaker 1: will speak on it. That's something I'm comfortable speaking on 2969 03:47:20,800 --> 03:47:26,800 Speaker 1: the way I was raised. Number One, you can never 2970 03:47:26,920 --> 03:47:29,720 Speaker 1: be classified as top ten, top five, or top anything 2971 03:47:29,800 --> 03:47:33,480 Speaker 1: if you've got some assistance with your parts. Period, you 2972 03:47:33,640 --> 03:47:36,680 Speaker 1: automatically disqualified. I don't give a funk how great you 2973 03:47:36,800 --> 03:47:46,480 Speaker 1: think you are on your That don't make you any 2974 03:47:46,640 --> 03:47:51,760 Speaker 1: less of a dope. M c r oh, it doesn't. 2975 03:47:52,560 --> 03:47:54,880 Speaker 1: You could still be dope this niggas that are still 2976 03:47:55,200 --> 03:48:01,560 Speaker 1: more than capable of writing their own ship, but they 2977 03:48:01,600 --> 03:48:03,680 Speaker 1: didn't stick to the script of writing their own ship, 2978 03:48:03,840 --> 03:48:07,320 Speaker 1: which would warrant them being deemed top ten of top five. 2979 03:48:08,120 --> 03:48:12,960 Speaker 1: Once you get an assist with your pen, that's like 2980 03:48:13,120 --> 03:48:22,200 Speaker 1: the nigga. Uh, what's the triathlon, Lance arm Strong. Once 2981 03:48:22,240 --> 03:48:28,640 Speaker 1: you at once you get an assist that ain't coming 2982 03:48:28,720 --> 03:48:35,240 Speaker 1: from an organic place, it disqualifies everything. The same rules apply. 2983 03:48:36,520 --> 03:48:38,880 Speaker 1: I've never said a word out of my mouth that 2984 03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:43,280 Speaker 1: was written by another man in my entire twenty nine years. 2985 03:48:43,360 --> 03:48:53,240 Speaker 1: If another nigga wrote, who quick, Now, that's not a 2986 03:48:53,320 --> 03:48:56,440 Speaker 1: disrespect And I want people to really understanding distinguish the 2987 03:48:56,520 --> 03:49:00,640 Speaker 1: difference between what I'm saying and what it actually is. Right, 2988 03:49:00,760 --> 03:49:03,600 Speaker 1: like the disrespectful blunt you want something, he go to 2989 03:49:03,720 --> 03:49:07,360 Speaker 1: torch you see this, pull us down and deal with that. 2990 03:49:07,560 --> 03:49:11,320 Speaker 1: Corner La didn't deal with that, Carle seven hundred, deal 2991 03:49:11,360 --> 03:49:13,640 Speaker 1: with that. Go deal with that a cornerly, but love it. 2992 03:49:14,880 --> 03:49:22,080 Speaker 1: Pull it down there you go, there you go. That's that, 2993 03:49:22,280 --> 03:49:24,240 Speaker 1: that's that, that's that. That's that food on the north 2994 03:49:24,640 --> 03:49:33,520 Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, fixed together, right enough? The little chest 2995 03:49:33,720 --> 03:49:41,640 Speaker 1: watch damn ship. All right, buck, I'm not done. Continue 2996 03:49:42,320 --> 03:49:56,280 Speaker 1: now COVID nor covid. We went you manute. As I 2997 03:49:56,400 --> 03:50:00,640 Speaker 1: was saying, I think that at the end of the day, 2998 03:50:05,200 --> 03:50:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, be be, be humble and your verbiage. If 2999 03:50:16,160 --> 03:50:20,000 Speaker 1: there's holes that can be poked, hm and your truth, 3000 03:50:21,760 --> 03:50:27,000 Speaker 1: that's all. It ain't gotta be transpired in a negative way. 3001 03:50:27,680 --> 03:50:32,160 Speaker 1: If you stand tolling the truth, you can credit others 3002 03:50:32,280 --> 03:50:35,200 Speaker 1: if others has played a role, that it's been significant 3003 03:50:35,280 --> 03:50:39,679 Speaker 1: in the success and then the gratification of your accomplishments. 3004 03:50:39,760 --> 03:50:41,840 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if you ain't 3005 03:50:41,880 --> 03:50:44,120 Speaker 1: going to start showing your own nigger, then give it 3006 03:50:44,240 --> 03:50:46,400 Speaker 1: up to who wants it being, giving it up, giving 3007 03:50:46,480 --> 03:50:49,840 Speaker 1: up to whoever it wants to, giving up to give 3008 03:50:49,920 --> 03:50:55,560 Speaker 1: it up. I take great pride say and ship like 3009 03:50:55,640 --> 03:51:00,200 Speaker 1: that because nobody in my squad is allowed to haven't 3010 03:51:00,200 --> 03:51:03,040 Speaker 1: assist with their pain. If that's the case, you need 3011 03:51:03,120 --> 03:51:06,600 Speaker 1: to be rocking with somebody else. You know what I'm saying, 3012 03:51:07,160 --> 03:51:13,400 Speaker 1: Because we just was raised a certain way. That doesn't 3013 03:51:13,440 --> 03:51:15,640 Speaker 1: make the new way that people feel they need to 3014 03:51:15,680 --> 03:51:18,680 Speaker 1: do things wrong. But if the noon n asks you 3015 03:51:18,840 --> 03:51:23,720 Speaker 1: to the bustle, I'm gonna do it because you know 3016 03:51:23,880 --> 03:51:26,320 Speaker 1: you don't you know why, you know why, because again 3017 03:51:26,360 --> 03:51:29,000 Speaker 1: it's not wrong. What makes it wrong is when you 3018 03:51:29,200 --> 03:51:38,640 Speaker 1: discredit who assists happen. That's what makes a wrong. When 3019 03:51:38,680 --> 03:51:41,600 Speaker 1: you try to conceive it. Rand Shampoo wrong since he 3020 03:51:41,720 --> 03:51:51,000 Speaker 1: was probably ship, he was shipools. All Shampoo's a fucking 3021 03:51:51,120 --> 03:51:52,920 Speaker 1: legend in his culture. Come we please give it up? 3022 03:52:00,040 --> 03:52:01,960 Speaker 1: Time was the one who I'll be break down and 3023 03:52:02,040 --> 03:52:04,840 Speaker 1: swipey record. Ain't got it on the radio for me. 3024 03:52:05,000 --> 03:52:14,600 Speaker 1: SHOT's story don't have many regging. Shampoo helped me breaking 3025 03:52:16,600 --> 03:52:25,400 Speaker 1: countless ship. Oh shampoo plaque? Fuck you talking about shampoo. 3026 03:52:25,520 --> 03:52:37,440 Speaker 1: I apologize that you have not been able to shape. 3027 03:52:38,160 --> 03:52:41,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to you for a second. I'm not gonna lie. 3028 03:52:42,040 --> 03:52:45,440 Speaker 1: I'll go to the cook shown fly Okay called me 3029 03:52:45,560 --> 03:52:54,560 Speaker 1: from spin. It's like, y'all, I got new Brooklyn. I 3030 03:52:54,680 --> 03:53:00,200 Speaker 1: looked at you, I said broken. I don't know if 3031 03:53:00,200 --> 03:53:07,120 Speaker 1: I said it to you, to you in my mind baby, 3032 03:53:07,200 --> 03:53:12,760 Speaker 1: in my mind right? But did everybody feel spiff all 3033 03:53:12,880 --> 03:53:19,360 Speaker 1: the young Niga. It killed me because I said, y'all 3034 03:53:19,680 --> 03:53:28,720 Speaker 1: told me that you told me it's a hit factory. Yeah, 3035 03:53:28,800 --> 03:53:31,640 Speaker 1: h factory. Yeah. I gotta think Bush you seeing me? 3036 03:53:32,200 --> 03:53:38,320 Speaker 1: You told me this is when boss? Was it cash money? 3037 03:53:39,440 --> 03:53:43,520 Speaker 1: And before I finished your question, I want to say, 3038 03:53:44,160 --> 03:53:50,200 Speaker 1: whoa was the problem with cash money? Was it a voluble? 3039 03:53:50,240 --> 03:53:58,040 Speaker 1: Cash money? Wow? Look where you're going? When I say nor, 3040 03:53:58,440 --> 03:54:01,280 Speaker 1: I must commend you when you are searching your homework. 3041 03:54:04,920 --> 03:54:07,600 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, all right, look this is what I'm gonna do. 3042 03:54:10,080 --> 03:54:13,800 Speaker 1: And you both, Mari, were raised in our air dirty laundry, right, 3043 03:54:14,960 --> 03:54:18,080 Speaker 1: so this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to 3044 03:54:18,160 --> 03:54:23,840 Speaker 1: big a birdman and I'm gonna pick up Slim. But 3045 03:54:23,960 --> 03:54:28,240 Speaker 1: what I will say is we got to a crossroads 3046 03:54:29,840 --> 03:54:37,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't conducive to the business that we needed to do. 3047 03:54:39,760 --> 03:54:48,800 Speaker 1: So respectfully, my request was honored to be able to 3048 03:54:48,880 --> 03:54:53,440 Speaker 1: continue to go and continue on my journey the way 3049 03:54:53,520 --> 03:54:56,840 Speaker 1: my journey was happening before we got in business, and 3050 03:54:56,920 --> 03:55:00,640 Speaker 1: how we needed to continue after we stopped own business. 3051 03:55:01,480 --> 03:55:09,920 Speaker 1: And there's nothing else that needs to be discussed. Let's 3052 03:55:10,000 --> 03:55:15,880 Speaker 1: be clear, and so let me just see this though, 3053 03:55:16,960 --> 03:55:21,640 Speaker 1: don't brothers will always be my allies, They will always 3054 03:55:21,680 --> 03:55:23,680 Speaker 1: be my friends, and they will always be my brothers. 3055 03:55:25,120 --> 03:55:30,360 Speaker 1: I think it's extremely important and even in having differences, 3056 03:55:30,800 --> 03:55:39,320 Speaker 1: especially in these times, that we honor the camaraderie that 3057 03:55:39,400 --> 03:55:44,480 Speaker 1: we have because there's a bigger picture. You know. The 3058 03:55:44,600 --> 03:55:47,240 Speaker 1: goal right now is to divide and conquer. That's been 3059 03:55:47,280 --> 03:55:49,360 Speaker 1: the goal even before right now, but it's like on 3060 03:55:49,520 --> 03:55:57,160 Speaker 1: a whole other level of hyper tension and promotion and 3061 03:55:57,240 --> 03:56:00,520 Speaker 1: propaganda right now for us to not be on the 3062 03:56:00,600 --> 03:56:04,280 Speaker 1: same accord with each other. I love my brothers man 3063 03:56:05,960 --> 03:56:08,520 Speaker 1: even do the good debating and difference to the twelfth 3064 03:56:08,600 --> 03:56:12,480 Speaker 1: degree and supreme alphabet is to let the L. Twelfth 3065 03:56:12,600 --> 03:56:17,200 Speaker 1: lettering alphabet is to let the L that degree love, helen, love, 3066 03:56:17,320 --> 03:56:22,000 Speaker 1: help or right that degreed means you gotta go through 3067 03:56:22,080 --> 03:56:24,040 Speaker 1: love and helen or for ship to turn out. Right 3068 03:56:24,920 --> 03:56:30,160 Speaker 1: podcast for four years continue Boston. I can't love my 3069 03:56:30,320 --> 03:56:33,440 Speaker 1: brother if I ain't gonna be able to love him, 3070 03:56:33,480 --> 03:56:38,200 Speaker 1: and we're going to hell too. You don't just love 3071 03:56:38,280 --> 03:56:43,480 Speaker 1: your brother when you to sweet finished norm me when 3072 03:56:43,480 --> 03:56:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with the signs let me Bill, but love it. 3073 03:56:48,760 --> 03:56:54,600 Speaker 1: But you don't just look at that. You don't you don't. 3074 03:56:59,040 --> 03:57:02,520 Speaker 1: You don't just love your brother when ship is good. 3075 03:57:03,680 --> 03:57:07,800 Speaker 1: You love your brother when it is challenging to That's 3076 03:57:07,920 --> 03:57:13,200 Speaker 1: that's what That's when the love is really being tested. 3077 03:57:14,280 --> 03:57:16,720 Speaker 1: That's where the love is testing for us. Can I 3078 03:57:16,840 --> 03:57:22,360 Speaker 1: finish snormy Please? Let me let me just complete because Joe, 3079 03:57:22,640 --> 03:57:24,520 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna need you to elaborate because I 3080 03:57:24,720 --> 03:57:29,240 Speaker 1: know what you gotta say. It is important. King. You 3081 03:57:29,320 --> 03:57:32,520 Speaker 1: don't need for apology. We were on the same accord came. 3082 03:57:33,040 --> 03:57:37,200 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it ended up turning out right, Man, 3083 03:57:39,280 --> 03:57:42,040 Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. That's where you gotta understand. 3084 03:57:42,080 --> 03:57:44,080 Speaker 1: They gotta let me reach to that point of this 3085 03:57:44,320 --> 03:57:48,360 Speaker 1: dialogue so that you can understand. The upswing was beautiful. 3086 03:57:49,560 --> 03:57:54,000 Speaker 1: Me and Bird had real conversations and it wasn't easy 3087 03:57:54,040 --> 03:57:57,240 Speaker 1: and hear it out. It wasn't easy, but we figured 3088 03:57:57,280 --> 03:58:01,080 Speaker 1: it out and he ended up being beautiful conversation and 3089 03:58:01,240 --> 03:58:05,280 Speaker 1: it ended up being beautiful understanding, And there's nothing better 3090 03:58:05,320 --> 03:58:10,040 Speaker 1: than understanding. Understanding is the best part. So once you 3091 03:58:10,280 --> 03:58:14,280 Speaker 1: established that there's no confusion, that could be possible because 3092 03:58:14,360 --> 03:58:19,320 Speaker 1: we all are very clear, there's no misconception, we could 3093 03:58:19,320 --> 03:58:24,400 Speaker 1: walk away from the conversation really being on the same accord. 3094 03:58:26,960 --> 03:58:33,000 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of why the difference between me and 3095 03:58:33,200 --> 03:58:37,640 Speaker 1: other artists that was in business with him is while 3096 03:58:37,720 --> 03:58:40,480 Speaker 1: they might have aired dirty laundry, you've never heard me 3097 03:58:40,640 --> 03:58:46,280 Speaker 1: do it. No, that's not the way I was raised. Man. See, 3098 03:58:46,320 --> 03:58:51,200 Speaker 1: there's an etiquette thing that very important to how we 3099 03:58:51,400 --> 03:58:56,200 Speaker 1: was brought up. We was brought up a certain way. 3100 03:58:58,000 --> 03:59:00,600 Speaker 1: I want to try to do every thing in my 3101 03:59:00,840 --> 03:59:05,680 Speaker 1: power to reinstill that beautiful way we was brought up. 3102 03:59:06,880 --> 03:59:12,280 Speaker 1: It's not an old thing, it's a right thing. See, 3103 03:59:12,600 --> 03:59:16,120 Speaker 1: that's where NI is getting misconstrued. You want to talk 3104 03:59:16,200 --> 03:59:22,120 Speaker 1: about the old way. No, see what's right and wrong 3105 03:59:22,400 --> 03:59:33,600 Speaker 1: and got no timeline on it. What's what's what's right? Room, 3106 03:59:33,680 --> 03:59:39,320 Speaker 1: what's right or what's wrong has no timeline. It's like 3107 03:59:40,320 --> 03:59:42,200 Speaker 1: you wake up one day you think you're gonna just 3108 03:59:42,320 --> 03:59:47,120 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, the planets ain't post to rotator around 3109 03:59:47,160 --> 03:59:54,080 Speaker 1: the sun. Fuck that sun rotator on the planets. That's 3110 03:59:54,280 --> 04:00:00,040 Speaker 1: never gonna happen because it's called right and wrong on 3111 04:00:00,200 --> 04:00:03,400 Speaker 1: there is no other way for the functioning of this 3112 04:00:03,680 --> 04:00:09,480 Speaker 1: universal infrastructure to operate. So if you're living on that accord, 3113 04:00:11,480 --> 04:00:14,160 Speaker 1: it's like slapping it again in the face and trying 3114 04:00:14,200 --> 04:00:19,080 Speaker 1: to control the repercussion. You can't control the repercussion. It's 3115 04:00:19,120 --> 04:00:21,600 Speaker 1: called right or wrong. You should You should have made 3116 04:00:21,680 --> 04:00:25,040 Speaker 1: a conscious decision. You should have never see what I 3117 04:00:25,120 --> 04:00:28,360 Speaker 1: was saying, That's where I was going. Before you did it, 3118 04:00:28,520 --> 04:00:32,040 Speaker 1: you knew what you was gonna do. Every action is 3119 04:00:32,080 --> 04:00:42,440 Speaker 1: a thought first. Every thought is something that So with 3120 04:00:42,560 --> 04:00:46,000 Speaker 1: that being said, if you think something and do it 3121 04:00:46,600 --> 04:00:48,280 Speaker 1: knowing it was wrong before you do, when it still 3122 04:00:48,360 --> 04:00:52,360 Speaker 1: choose to do it that in voice that's gonna come 3123 04:00:52,400 --> 04:00:55,520 Speaker 1: behind that it's gonna be expensive than the motherfucker I 3124 04:00:55,680 --> 04:00:59,880 Speaker 1: love the invoice. Every choice comes with an invoice or 3125 04:01:00,000 --> 04:01:03,800 Speaker 1: a fresh You gotta pay for that ship, especially when 3126 04:01:03,840 --> 04:01:06,040 Speaker 1: you knew how expensive it was gonna be before you 3127 04:01:06,160 --> 04:01:10,120 Speaker 1: did it and chose to do it anyway. This ship 3128 04:01:10,280 --> 04:01:14,080 Speaker 1: is like ten trillion times more expensive when you decide 3129 04:01:14,120 --> 04:01:16,680 Speaker 1: to do it anyway, knowing it was expensive before you 3130 04:01:16,800 --> 04:01:21,080 Speaker 1: did it. If you couldn't afford it, why didn't do it? 3131 04:01:22,560 --> 04:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Before you did it? You knew you couldn't afford it. 3132 04:01:25,000 --> 04:01:31,160 Speaker 1: See why the fund you doing anyway? Because he's too mad? Okay? Cool? 3133 04:01:31,240 --> 04:01:33,520 Speaker 1: So now this is where we at. You chose to 3134 04:01:33,600 --> 04:01:36,560 Speaker 1: do it, and now nigga want to try to control 3135 04:01:37,360 --> 04:01:42,040 Speaker 1: how much it's gonna cost. You can't control that no more. 3136 04:01:42,680 --> 04:01:47,240 Speaker 1: You slap a nigga, he shoots you. He wrong for shooting. Nah, 3137 04:01:49,680 --> 04:01:53,160 Speaker 1: You should have never slapped him. You slapped the room, nigga. 3138 04:01:53,320 --> 04:01:56,320 Speaker 1: How about that's the way that's mathematical equatement worked out. 3139 04:01:57,160 --> 04:01:59,720 Speaker 1: You should have never even thought that he was somebody 3140 04:01:59,840 --> 04:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you to slap and get away with it. How about 3141 04:02:03,200 --> 04:02:10,600 Speaker 1: that part? Deep ship. You thought wrong. Your mathematic equation 3142 04:02:11,280 --> 04:02:16,400 Speaker 1: was off. You should have never thought you could have 3143 04:02:16,520 --> 04:02:21,320 Speaker 1: got away with that. Now what you're gonna do, You're 3144 04:02:21,360 --> 04:02:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna take this out. It's called learning experience and it 3145 04:02:25,280 --> 04:02:34,080 Speaker 1: might be calls called your life deep experience. You they're 3146 04:02:34,120 --> 04:02:39,800 Speaker 1: feeling the video. No, don't don't do this. Don't do this, please, 3147 04:02:41,160 --> 04:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm begging you, don't do this. God damn no, we 3148 04:02:45,080 --> 04:02:50,760 Speaker 1: don't know. We going bad tonight, broy nor, we going bad? 3149 04:02:50,920 --> 04:02:56,000 Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? Alright, alright, give me 3150 04:02:56,040 --> 04:02:58,920 Speaker 1: a second, give me a second, little back phone because 3151 04:03:00,160 --> 04:03:24,480 Speaker 1: he's quiet. Good listen, ye men getting me where my heart? Minute? 3152 04:03:24,920 --> 04:03:32,080 Speaker 1: That came Throme where I fired at my fire? Where 3153 04:03:32,160 --> 04:03:34,800 Speaker 1: my fire? I ain't got that with my fine we 3154 04:03:35,000 --> 04:03:39,520 Speaker 1: call my guys. I ain't for strut blood cloud of 3155 04:03:39,640 --> 04:03:46,520 Speaker 1: that one to that. That's whop I can't tell you, yo, 3156 04:03:46,920 --> 04:03:57,520 Speaker 1: not f that they called you pussy on this side 3157 04:03:57,520 --> 04:04:01,960 Speaker 1: a point where a friend doing its duty like that 3158 04:04:04,480 --> 04:04:14,080 Speaker 1: found found he's a cute guy. You know, somebody old. 3159 04:04:14,600 --> 04:04:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to said that. Nobody said that. No, 3160 04:04:16,680 --> 04:04:24,480 Speaker 1: we don't believe me. Your fit is a terrorist right now, yo, 3161 04:04:24,560 --> 04:04:27,120 Speaker 1: he's not saying nothing he's saying. True with these ain't trus, 3162 04:04:27,160 --> 04:04:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm a terror. Somebody puts you on man, say, yeah, 3163 04:04:38,880 --> 04:04:41,480 Speaker 1: you know me. You know you know what they tell me? 3164 04:04:43,040 --> 04:04:51,840 Speaker 1: You shr me an attire. Isn't that funny brother, No, 3165 04:04:52,080 --> 04:04:58,920 Speaker 1: isn't not that funny man? Funny man? Yo, I applied 3166 04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:07,080 Speaker 1: trying time. You're trying. All right, the world will tek 3167 04:05:07,160 --> 04:05:12,600 Speaker 1: you where you are now, your pussy wall pussy all 3168 04:05:13,320 --> 04:05:16,640 Speaker 1: I'll give funk with the mean. There's nowhere in the 3169 04:05:16,800 --> 04:05:21,920 Speaker 1: world you're paying out that a little teph bringing down 3170 04:05:21,920 --> 04:05:25,080 Speaker 1: the pussy that I don't want to tell you. Don't 3171 04:05:25,200 --> 04:05:30,800 Speaker 1: do that, you slap, you fucking bastard. Yeah, I know 3172 04:05:31,000 --> 04:05:34,840 Speaker 1: why when you stop it, you're gonna stop doing this 3173 04:05:35,000 --> 04:05:40,680 Speaker 1: motherfucking damn MESSI ball. You know, I don't know why 3174 04:05:40,840 --> 04:05:44,440 Speaker 1: they called you that. Stop that ship, you fucking clus 3175 04:05:44,480 --> 04:05:49,920 Speaker 1: you plus your box of Craig his face. That's the way, buddy, 3176 04:05:49,960 --> 04:06:00,400 Speaker 1: culling pussy. Yes, Charles tells you not small click that slune. 3177 04:06:01,120 --> 04:06:04,800 Speaker 1: T Let men do quick tell I'm in give me 3178 04:06:04,880 --> 04:06:08,040 Speaker 1: the lift, us the batch, give me the bag. Don't 3179 04:06:08,080 --> 04:06:13,160 Speaker 1: read yet, fat, they ain't even do t when sting talk. 3180 04:06:13,160 --> 04:06:16,160 Speaker 1: I want you to back can back today you do 3181 04:06:16,320 --> 04:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Greek time slum, I'm not starting you're slick your bro 3182 04:06:27,240 --> 04:06:35,960 Speaker 1: ye so yeah, absolutely I can do it, but I'm 3183 04:06:35,960 --> 04:06:43,240 Speaker 1: not quick time do what you want? Your getting over 3184 04:06:43,320 --> 04:06:49,240 Speaker 1: this sad bad you got my background? Kick time is time? Yeah? 3185 04:06:50,320 --> 04:06:54,000 Speaker 1: That back to good. Let me look at the phone. 3186 04:06:54,360 --> 04:06:59,880 Speaker 1: Got to go slo okay, all right, man, can't nick 3187 04:07:02,440 --> 04:07:09,760 Speaker 1: doesn't work? Wait it again, it's quick time with this 3188 04:07:16,440 --> 04:07:23,040 Speaker 1: kimmer nicky kimer nick Yeah, kimmer nicky what she was 3189 04:07:23,160 --> 04:07:29,120 Speaker 1: one of the other kim All right? Jaar nas nas 3190 04:07:31,720 --> 04:07:38,200 Speaker 1: popeye's are churches popey Jamaicic's a tricky come on, it's ridiculous. 3191 04:07:38,760 --> 04:07:44,360 Speaker 1: Both that's great, jay z ands both that I'm fixing that. 3192 04:07:50,040 --> 04:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Let me finish quick telling something. Let me finish you 3193 04:07:57,120 --> 04:07:59,240 Speaker 1: telling me I can't fix something I ain't doing now 3194 04:07:59,320 --> 04:08:02,840 Speaker 1: you're fishing and how you can fix it? Come on, bokay, 3195 04:08:02,960 --> 04:08:06,240 Speaker 1: let me fix when I'm starting with hands started over? No, no, 3196 04:08:06,360 --> 04:08:12,080 Speaker 1: we we got no starting over. Kien niki kim j 3197 04:08:12,920 --> 04:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Both Popeyees and churches popl Jamaican's are Haitians that have 3198 04:08:18,960 --> 04:08:39,160 Speaker 1: a friend as Dominican Hi for all of Timberland, tim 3199 04:08:40,200 --> 04:08:44,440 Speaker 1: our Timberland both, Come on, brothers, both is really get 3200 04:08:44,440 --> 04:08:51,840 Speaker 1: at Sorr camera both holy sis, um, we gotta like 3201 04:08:52,040 --> 04:08:59,840 Speaker 1: my ast where get back to us? So the tell 3202 04:09:00,000 --> 04:09:07,920 Speaker 1: of speeding tunnel, fucking tunnel? This is one I'm unfamiliar with. 3203 04:09:08,440 --> 04:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Time the roles or Audi b oh, I think you 3204 04:09:21,840 --> 04:09:32,840 Speaker 1: rollics and there in Miami, I'm in relaxed everybody. Jude 3205 04:09:32,880 --> 04:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Black and Swiss both boom, Mariah Janet both Michael Jackson 3206 04:09:40,760 --> 04:09:44,520 Speaker 1: or Prince both Wait, hold on? He met back with Jackson. 3207 04:09:45,560 --> 04:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Hold I'm pretto alright, trying to constr underground. Try to 3208 04:09:52,920 --> 04:09:57,680 Speaker 1: call question, did your undergroube we're talking about? I was? 3209 04:09:58,000 --> 04:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I was trying to make the SENSI you met, Wait 3210 04:10:02,680 --> 04:10:09,240 Speaker 1: that you met, you met, you met, You've met my Jackson? Try, 3211 04:10:09,880 --> 04:10:14,840 Speaker 1: he said. Saxon said, in a month, you've met Bessy Jackson, 3212 04:10:16,000 --> 04:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Prince I met both of them. Yes, sir, let's press 3213 04:10:19,120 --> 04:10:24,840 Speaker 1: fakerpop with somebody bro where he met him? That's what happened. 3214 04:10:25,120 --> 04:10:43,400 Speaker 1: He met him, of course, pressing finger. It's not your fault, 3215 04:10:43,840 --> 04:10:47,160 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's like priss Yo, ask my ear. 3216 04:10:47,600 --> 04:10:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, who was? I just feel like fresh 3217 04:10:51,440 --> 04:11:00,400 Speaker 1: is always fingerbout somebody's getting figger about princes around. I 3218 04:11:00,480 --> 04:11:04,640 Speaker 1: went to me, you don't think. You don't No, I 3219 04:11:04,640 --> 04:11:10,080 Speaker 1: don't think and play basketball break at the same time. 3220 04:11:10,280 --> 04:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Never the case. I believe the skin like play basketball. 3221 04:11:17,800 --> 04:11:21,920 Speaker 1: That's a factor, play basketball, and I no, no, I 3222 04:11:22,080 --> 04:11:25,800 Speaker 1: played basketball when I get busy. I ain't played with prince, 3223 04:11:25,920 --> 04:11:29,720 Speaker 1: but I get busy. What you're talking about is we 3224 04:11:29,800 --> 04:11:36,320 Speaker 1: speaking falling languages English on the weekends. Normal You gave 3225 04:11:36,360 --> 04:11:39,880 Speaker 1: me a look like you want disbelief. I'm not sure, Normay, 3226 04:11:39,880 --> 04:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't want you to be sure. I'm not sure. 3227 04:11:41,680 --> 04:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I just want you to fingure this ship out, and 3228 04:11:44,320 --> 04:11:46,400 Speaker 1: I gotta figure it out. Figure it out. No, no, 3229 04:11:46,600 --> 04:11:50,960 Speaker 1: not on your own time and actual time, like we 3230 04:11:51,040 --> 04:11:55,360 Speaker 1: could do with this. We can deal with this accordingly. 3231 04:11:55,720 --> 04:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Right now, do we know where a basketball? And we 3232 04:12:06,760 --> 04:12:13,080 Speaker 1: got cameras. We'll know I can straight to right. We 3233 04:12:13,200 --> 04:12:20,520 Speaker 1: got cameras, And I'm with all the smoke. I smoke cigars, 3234 04:12:21,440 --> 04:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I smoke weed, smoke cigarette and I shouldn't even be 3235 04:12:24,840 --> 04:12:27,360 Speaker 1: doing that. Animal. That's why you aways seen me smog 3236 04:12:28,640 --> 04:12:31,280 Speaker 1: or no weed in this whole drinke chance, I'm only 3237 04:12:31,320 --> 04:12:37,120 Speaker 1: smoking celebratory cigars. Rose Royce of the cigar by the way, 3238 04:12:39,200 --> 04:12:40,600 Speaker 1: you know what, let me let me tell this up 3239 04:12:40,680 --> 04:12:43,600 Speaker 1: that please do, because if we could only get right 3240 04:12:43,680 --> 04:12:46,680 Speaker 1: to it or this gout something else. But he's a 3241 04:12:46,720 --> 04:12:51,280 Speaker 1: great Thank you very much. I've never seen I've never 3242 04:12:51,400 --> 04:12:56,680 Speaker 1: seen you this focus ever in twenty years. I don't 3243 04:12:56,720 --> 04:12:58,720 Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know what made you 3244 04:12:58,880 --> 04:13:06,520 Speaker 1: switch on that switch switches okay that it's like everything 3245 04:13:06,640 --> 04:13:10,160 Speaker 1: is strategic. I ain't gonna lie. You had the little 3246 04:13:10,240 --> 04:13:15,200 Speaker 1: white people putting the E L E ship all the ship. 3247 04:13:15,440 --> 04:13:21,440 Speaker 1: I felt like I was in Luminati as well. I 3248 04:13:21,480 --> 04:13:24,680 Speaker 1: don't know. Please be clear. That has nothing to do 3249 04:13:24,840 --> 04:13:28,600 Speaker 1: with luminary information. That that that that that that that 3250 04:13:28,800 --> 04:13:32,600 Speaker 1: that that that that commercial was a spinoff of the 3251 04:13:32,760 --> 04:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Ash Wednesdays concept from the Catholic Church, and and and 3252 04:13:40,240 --> 04:13:47,200 Speaker 1: and and I did all this. But you know that's 3253 04:13:47,320 --> 04:13:52,160 Speaker 1: that's good because she would I try to create this 3254 04:13:52,320 --> 04:14:01,640 Speaker 1: content that's gonna bot that was also Ash Wednesdays. The 3255 04:14:01,800 --> 04:14:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of content that I try to create is content 3256 04:14:04,840 --> 04:14:08,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna spark thought. You know what I'm saying. When 3257 04:14:09,000 --> 04:14:14,760 Speaker 1: I created that, there's a lot of different messages that's 3258 04:14:14,800 --> 04:14:20,000 Speaker 1: supposed to come from that commercial. Trailer advertising and coming 3259 04:14:20,040 --> 04:14:24,960 Speaker 1: of extinction level event to the Wrath of God. It's 3260 04:14:25,200 --> 04:14:29,120 Speaker 1: so many different dynamics and levels of science and high 3261 04:14:29,200 --> 04:14:33,520 Speaker 1: science that the album consists of that when I started 3262 04:14:33,560 --> 04:14:37,960 Speaker 1: to give people those pieces of content through the trailers 3263 04:14:38,000 --> 04:14:40,400 Speaker 1: and the album commercials, that was just so I can 3264 04:14:40,480 --> 04:14:44,120 Speaker 1: solidify with the consumer that's been with me since the 3265 04:14:45,400 --> 04:14:49,040 Speaker 1: two year ago release of the original leading up to now, 3266 04:14:49,960 --> 04:14:54,480 Speaker 1: that we have not abandoned the responsibility of addressing the 3267 04:14:54,840 --> 04:15:02,960 Speaker 1: social awareness response ability that we've been taken on from 3268 04:15:03,040 --> 04:15:07,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of my soul career. I just wanted people 3269 04:15:07,640 --> 04:15:09,680 Speaker 1: to know you get the done in the Boss, you 3270 04:15:09,760 --> 04:15:12,640 Speaker 1: get to me and then anishim back record, but like 3271 04:15:12,920 --> 04:15:17,240 Speaker 1: you need to see that the high science, it's a 3272 04:15:17,320 --> 04:15:22,920 Speaker 1: significant part of the embodiment of this project, the songs 3273 04:15:23,000 --> 04:15:26,240 Speaker 1: that consists of that information. I'm not giving it to 3274 04:15:26,320 --> 04:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the people until when the album drops because I'm dealing 3275 04:15:30,520 --> 04:15:33,640 Speaker 1: with levels of high science that's so powerful. I don't 3276 04:15:33,680 --> 04:15:35,800 Speaker 1: want no powers that be to feel like they are 3277 04:15:35,960 --> 04:15:38,520 Speaker 1: deemed worthy of blocking the information that I'm trying to 3278 04:15:38,560 --> 04:15:51,960 Speaker 1: share it. It goes to that as a personal personal person, 3279 04:15:52,160 --> 04:15:55,960 Speaker 1: personal person person, we might need to be mindful of 3280 04:15:56,040 --> 04:16:00,520 Speaker 1: what I just said. No, No, I'm what I just 3281 04:16:00,640 --> 04:16:03,000 Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying. Yes, when I'm saying what 3282 04:16:03,120 --> 04:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I just said, I'm just telling on myself that I'm 3283 04:16:06,120 --> 04:16:09,120 Speaker 1: sharing ship that will put them in the position to 3284 04:16:09,200 --> 04:16:12,200 Speaker 1: prepare to block what I'm getting ready to share. So 3285 04:16:12,360 --> 04:16:15,160 Speaker 1: we might need to be conscious of how we share that. 3286 04:16:16,360 --> 04:16:18,760 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Do y'all understand what I 3287 04:16:18,840 --> 04:16:22,920 Speaker 1: just said? Okay? Cool? All right, so just take that note, please, 3288 04:16:22,960 --> 04:16:27,240 Speaker 1: please please take that no? Which alright, cool, thank you? 3289 04:16:27,920 --> 04:16:32,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's add on now, boss, you've been on 3290 04:16:33,840 --> 04:16:39,600 Speaker 1: You've been on electric seven labels. Let's just sum it up. 3291 04:16:41,680 --> 04:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody. We're going through the music industry like bus rhymes. Okay, 3292 04:16:53,880 --> 04:16:55,720 Speaker 1: let me get one more concoction. I think this is 3293 04:16:58,960 --> 04:17:05,720 Speaker 1: so this is your first actual independent album, Yes, sir, 3294 04:17:06,920 --> 04:17:12,920 Speaker 1: first half? Yeah, what made you say? Because you know why? Boss? 3295 04:17:15,000 --> 04:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, you know, you know than anybody, though, 3296 04:17:18,680 --> 04:17:20,840 Speaker 1: you know better than anybody. You got it, so you 3297 04:17:21,080 --> 04:17:24,720 Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to do anything. 3298 04:17:25,760 --> 04:17:28,640 Speaker 1: You could you could have dropped on your own by yourself. 3299 04:17:30,520 --> 04:17:32,600 Speaker 1: So what made you say? You know what? I'm gonna 3300 04:17:33,000 --> 04:17:40,760 Speaker 1: imp ghazi as my business partner is a genius in 3301 04:17:40,840 --> 04:17:49,760 Speaker 1: a brilliant mind. I'm an advocate of continuing to learn, 3302 04:17:51,760 --> 04:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and man has shared information with me that no major 3303 04:17:58,920 --> 04:18:05,000 Speaker 1: label executives as it's number one, number two. He put 3304 04:18:05,040 --> 04:18:08,960 Speaker 1: a support system around me and answers. They phoned at 3305 04:18:08,960 --> 04:18:13,400 Speaker 1: two and three o'clock in the morning as executives and 3306 04:18:13,640 --> 04:18:18,600 Speaker 1: heads of their departments. No major label has ever done 3307 04:18:18,640 --> 04:18:21,240 Speaker 1: that for me, neithern You think it's gonna bad when 3308 04:18:21,240 --> 04:18:25,840 Speaker 1: the workouts is over, Wow, that's what they traditionally do. 3309 04:18:27,680 --> 04:18:30,720 Speaker 1: My album leaks at three four o'clock in the morning. 3310 04:18:31,880 --> 04:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I can't call these niggers until tomorrow. While at three 3311 04:18:35,160 --> 04:18:36,600 Speaker 1: four in the morning there might be on two or 3312 04:18:36,640 --> 04:18:39,600 Speaker 1: three websites, and when they wake up, it's on fifty 3313 04:18:39,760 --> 04:18:43,520 Speaker 1: fucking websites. I need to call when that ship is 3314 04:18:43,560 --> 04:18:49,160 Speaker 1: on two or three websites to have them troubleshooting. You 3315 04:18:49,240 --> 04:18:51,080 Speaker 1: mean answering my phone call when I need you to. 3316 04:18:52,480 --> 04:18:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to be in business with you at 3317 04:18:54,000 --> 04:18:58,400 Speaker 1: the stage of my career. I'm twenty nine years and 3318 04:18:58,480 --> 04:19:02,680 Speaker 1: this ship. My politically correct filter is burned. I'm only 3319 04:19:02,840 --> 04:19:05,880 Speaker 1: dealing with right and wrong. I ain't dealing with politically 3320 04:19:05,920 --> 04:19:10,040 Speaker 1: correct no more. That's just where I'm at. I'm not 3321 04:19:10,200 --> 04:19:13,360 Speaker 1: saying that to be offensive. It ain't like because I 3322 04:19:13,440 --> 04:19:15,440 Speaker 1: say I ain't politically correct and I'm gonn running your 3323 04:19:15,480 --> 04:19:17,520 Speaker 1: fucking building and start yelling the screaming. That's not where 3324 04:19:17,520 --> 04:19:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm at. Everything about that is counterproductive. There's nothing that 3325 04:19:21,400 --> 04:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you can do to get people to work in your 3326 04:19:23,120 --> 04:19:25,080 Speaker 1: best interests if you're yelling and screaming at them and 3327 04:19:25,160 --> 04:19:28,760 Speaker 1: disrespecting them as human beings. That's not the way to work. 3328 04:19:29,040 --> 04:19:30,760 Speaker 1: It's not the way to operate if you're dealing with 3329 04:19:30,840 --> 04:19:34,640 Speaker 1: a collective. Because it takes phillis to raise the child right, 3330 04:19:36,520 --> 04:19:41,880 Speaker 1: it also takes a support system to create an empire. Right. 3331 04:19:45,480 --> 04:19:47,800 Speaker 1: This man right is one of my greatest support systems 3332 04:19:47,800 --> 04:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in the world. I've been able to create it and 3333 04:19:55,800 --> 04:19:58,720 Speaker 1: slip answering my phone call one of our call. When 3334 04:19:58,760 --> 04:20:01,120 Speaker 1: you don't answer my phone and our plane, he corrects 3335 04:20:01,160 --> 04:20:05,000 Speaker 1: the hour. I only need to be around people that 3336 04:20:05,080 --> 04:20:12,800 Speaker 1: can provide that level of prioritization in my life at 3337 04:20:12,840 --> 04:20:16,560 Speaker 1: this time and in the current space in time of 3338 04:20:16,720 --> 04:20:20,480 Speaker 1: my life. Because I'm going to answer the phone like 3339 04:20:20,600 --> 04:20:23,880 Speaker 1: that for you. I don't care how tired I am 3340 04:20:25,840 --> 04:20:27,520 Speaker 1: only time I don't answer my phone is if I'm 3341 04:20:27,520 --> 04:20:29,720 Speaker 1: on the plane. But I'll still respond be a WiFi 3342 04:20:29,840 --> 04:20:35,680 Speaker 1: on the text. So my correspondence in a timely Amanda, 3343 04:20:36,280 --> 04:20:39,240 Speaker 1: it's always going to be within the proximity when you 3344 04:20:39,320 --> 04:20:41,960 Speaker 1: reach out to me. That ship is important that you 3345 04:20:41,960 --> 04:20:43,960 Speaker 1: would separate, that they give me that ship in return, 3346 04:20:44,720 --> 04:20:46,240 Speaker 1: and if you can't, if we don't need to deal 3347 04:20:46,320 --> 04:20:49,200 Speaker 1: with each other, because I got a zero tolerance for 3348 04:20:49,320 --> 04:20:51,720 Speaker 1: you to think that you can see my message coming 3349 04:20:51,760 --> 04:20:53,720 Speaker 1: up on your phone and you're gonna act like you're 3350 04:20:53,720 --> 04:20:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna reach out to me way way, wait, wait after 3351 04:20:58,320 --> 04:21:03,360 Speaker 1: the fact, because he is a distinguishable difference between you're 3352 04:21:03,440 --> 04:21:05,880 Speaker 1: choosing to get back to me in a timely manner 3353 04:21:06,560 --> 04:21:09,440 Speaker 1: and you're choosing not to. It ain't that you don't 3354 04:21:09,440 --> 04:21:12,040 Speaker 1: see when I reach out to you. You see it. 3355 04:21:14,720 --> 04:21:19,880 Speaker 1: You do see it. So now I got a question, 3356 04:21:20,680 --> 04:21:22,720 Speaker 1: why did you take four hours to get back to 3357 04:21:22,800 --> 04:21:27,360 Speaker 1: me when you could have got back to me in 3358 04:21:27,440 --> 04:21:33,320 Speaker 1: five minutes? What what answer you're gonna give me that's 3359 04:21:33,320 --> 04:21:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna be acceptable outside of somebody dying in your family? 3360 04:21:36,920 --> 04:21:39,640 Speaker 1: But is that something that Chris Lady spoiled us with? 3361 04:21:40,680 --> 04:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Said it again, is that something that Chris Lady spoiled 3362 04:21:43,400 --> 04:21:53,240 Speaker 1: us with. It's called principle and it's called respect us 3363 04:21:53,320 --> 04:22:03,080 Speaker 1: for that. Mm hmm. That's all. It's like life can 3364 04:22:03,120 --> 04:22:05,320 Speaker 1: be simple. I'm not saying I got all the answers. 3365 04:22:05,400 --> 04:22:07,640 Speaker 1: Let me not sit up here and that like I 3366 04:22:07,720 --> 04:22:11,200 Speaker 1: got all the answers. I'm not trying to mislead nobody. 3367 04:22:11,360 --> 04:22:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't have all the answers. All I have is 3368 04:22:14,600 --> 04:22:22,640 Speaker 1: the answers based on my experience. That's it. I'm forty 3369 04:22:22,760 --> 04:22:28,120 Speaker 1: eight years old. Proudly we are the first generation of 3370 04:22:28,320 --> 04:22:33,880 Speaker 1: mcs that is showing everybody after us that they can 3371 04:22:34,000 --> 04:22:42,720 Speaker 1: still pull up in rolls Royces in a bunch of diamonds. Yeah, Holmes, 3372 04:22:44,480 --> 04:22:52,480 Speaker 1: diversified portfolios as grown ash man and still be super 3373 04:22:52,600 --> 04:23:01,440 Speaker 1: cool and super relevant and should is beautiful to fucking beautiful, 3374 04:23:02,160 --> 04:23:04,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Fucking beautiful. Like I said, 3375 04:23:05,160 --> 04:23:07,080 Speaker 1: me and Fat Joe were talking about you when you 3376 04:23:07,200 --> 04:23:08,760 Speaker 1: cut me off, and to tell you what we were 3377 04:23:08,800 --> 04:23:11,720 Speaker 1: talking about you about me up, I'm gonna tell you 3378 04:23:11,840 --> 04:23:16,960 Speaker 1: right now. Me and Fat Joe were talking about how 3379 04:23:17,160 --> 04:23:23,200 Speaker 1: much incredible big hit records you gotta leave about and 3380 04:23:23,360 --> 04:23:27,440 Speaker 1: you've been hiding it from niggers. You're getting so much 3381 04:23:27,520 --> 04:23:30,440 Speaker 1: money doing this Drink Championship you don't even care about 3382 04:23:30,520 --> 04:23:34,280 Speaker 1: sharing the music. Sorry, I'm sorry and sorry. What you 3383 04:23:34,400 --> 04:23:45,560 Speaker 1: mean to say, it's what you what you want to 3384 04:23:45,680 --> 04:23:50,400 Speaker 1: tell you? This is the word of the streetdom. Sorry 3385 04:23:50,480 --> 04:23:57,720 Speaker 1: you want guest, when I ended this out, fine, All 3386 04:23:57,760 --> 04:24:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying is this was me and Fat Joe, that 3387 04:24:01,600 --> 04:24:08,480 Speaker 1: Don Carter genius conversation about our brother today Boston. I'm 3388 04:24:08,480 --> 04:24:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna be honest, bus today, today's your day and this 3389 04:24:12,200 --> 04:24:16,360 Speaker 1: is found the champagne like you, Boston, one of these? 3390 04:24:16,560 --> 04:24:18,240 Speaker 1: All right? Normally, this is what I'm gonna tell you. 3391 04:24:19,760 --> 04:24:23,960 Speaker 1: I've been on my vodka. You're not gonna mix him 3392 04:24:24,000 --> 04:24:32,280 Speaker 1: blend me up? Taking a picture? Brother, we say something. 3393 04:24:33,320 --> 04:24:37,920 Speaker 1: First couple of time days I met as a terrorist molitarist. 3394 04:24:39,080 --> 04:24:44,440 Speaker 1: Wasn't even about you're thinking, passed this stick up blood. 3395 04:24:44,520 --> 04:24:48,760 Speaker 1: This nig is never passing about blood back every but 3396 04:24:48,920 --> 04:24:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a fact. I don't do that ship no more. 3397 04:24:54,600 --> 04:24:57,160 Speaker 1: As you can see, he was not allowed to pass 3398 04:24:57,240 --> 04:25:15,440 Speaker 1: you no blood tonight. We don't know. Oh. Thanks for 3399 04:25:15,560 --> 04:25:18,040 Speaker 1: joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by 3400 04:25:18,120 --> 04:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Yours truly d J. 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