WEBVTT - Black Men Vote 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.640 I'm Tamika D. Mallory and the Ship Boy my Son 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:03.239 in General. 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.640 We are your host of TMI. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.079 Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.280 And Inspiration Name New Energy. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.040 It's your boy Might song in general. Tamika D. Mallory 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.440 couldn't be with us today. She is working on her 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.919 book and she has a deadline, so I'm gonna hold 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.640 us down. But this book is amazing. You know, she 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.120 doesn't let me hear a couple of things. 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There's so much things going on 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:54.280 online and I'm not gonna talk about today. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.440 I'm just gonna wait till we have guests. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.680 You know, we're talking with black men today and how 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.720 they about this election and all of the things that 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.679 come with that. With that being said, I had a 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.880 dope week this week. Have you been watching the Olympics. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.560 Olympics has been It has been exhilarating. And you know, 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.360 sometimes you don't have a lot of energy and sometimes 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.200 you just feel like down because I go through those periods. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.440 Sometimes sometimes I'm real energetic and I've got a lot 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.520 of motivation to do stuff, and then sometimes I just don't. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.200 So this week was one of those weeks that I 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.640 didn't have a lot of energy to do stuff. But 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.759 watching the Olympics, I have to tell you, the last 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.080 two basketball games of the Olympics, Like I watched the 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.399 Rais Chikari. We're just in It's amazing, you know, just 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:50.640 watching her. She always has this this level of energy 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.480 that is contagious. Like you watch her and you see 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.960 her run and everything about the way that she presents 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.640 herself as an athlete. It's just motivation of me, Like 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.440 she comes from. You know, we know all of the 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.840 controversy she's had and just keep seeing her overcome and 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.919 despite this continue to win. That's in itself, it's motivation. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:21.040 But I watched the us A play against Serbia first, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.320 you know, and that was on that was like last 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.120 week and that game, I caught it. In the fourth quarter. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.600 One of my friends, Rubin calls me, like, Yo, you're 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.280 watching this game. The US is down by sixteen points 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.960 on like sixteen Yeah, they losing to Serbia Is in 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.000 the fourth quarter. Man, They're about to lose. So I'm like, damn, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:42.880 they're about to lose. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.639 Now. If you know, Serbia is Jokis's team, you. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.400 Know who was actually the MVP of the NBA, So 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.520 it's not far fetched that you would be losing to 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.519 somebody who was voted the best player in the NBA. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.240 The way they started that fourth quarter was amazing, Like, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.679 it was nothing short of amazing, just watching like I 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.880 seen Lebron in a different life. Like I always been 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.880 critical of Lebron, especially after he did the trade, you know, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.799 to Miami, and I always I never liked that move, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.400 you know, just to me, it was like, Yo, you're 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.840 the best player in the world. Why would you go 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.920 join other great players to play with them instead of 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.600 just beating them, especially after they just want a championship, Like, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.880 I never liked that move, So I'm not going to 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.000 act like I did. And I've always been critical of 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.120 his killer instinct and his warrior mentality ever since then, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.960 but as of late, you know, he's grown on me 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:43.520 with the warrior But I think this that game solidified 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.520 it for me, Like just watching how he put the 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.440 US on his back, like literally he put that team 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.800 on his back by hisself, not by hisself, because everybody 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.520 contributed in the game. Steph hit like not like he 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:03.560 was just unconscious, but the level of energy he was 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.320 guarding Jokic, he was playing the point guard, he was 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.600 guarding the center, he was getting rebounds, he got blocks. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:15.880 His intensity just went somewhere else, and people on the 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.160 USA team had to match that and the other team 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.360 couldn't match it. So he solidified this level of greatness 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.680 of this warrior spirit for me. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.520 In that game. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.440 They came back from that deficit to come back and 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.040 win that game, and it was just like. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.520 It was one for the ages. But then the championship game, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.240 watching Steph Curry shoot threes. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.320 That I couldn't even believe he five in a row, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.480 like it just didn't make no sense. It didn't matter 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.719 what defense they played on him, they tried to denomin 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.440 the board. He did whatever he wanted. The level of 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.760 ease and comfort in which he shoots three pointer is 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:04.680 just phenomenals. It is phenomenal. The skill level that he 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:09.120 had in shooting a basketball was just it was like, Okay, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:14.720 I don't think we're ever going to have a generational 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.240 talent like that. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.080 Again, I don't. I don't. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.640 I can't see it, like somebody would have to then 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.440 it'd be perfect and never miss a shot and to 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.600 be able to shoot better than Steph Kirk, Like, I 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.000 just can't really see somebody being able to shoot better 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.320 than him. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:28.719 I don't. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.279 And if that they come, you know, I'm willing to 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.000 say I make a mistake, but I just don't see it. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.960 I really don't see that happening. So shout out to 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.600 the USA for winning the goal. They had the most 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.719 gold medals and they had the most medals altogether, so 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.159 I think it was one hundred and twenty something go 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.400 I mean medals altogether, and I think they had like 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.680 forty something gold medals. So shout out to them for that. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.680 And I'm not pretty much sums up what my week 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:02.480 was like. Man, just relaxed, you know, and just getting 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:08.000 prepared for summers almost over. I do my annual picnic 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.359 in the Bronx Merriam Day. If you know about it, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.120 you know it's one of those. You know, we have 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.240 bouncy houses, face paint for the kids. We give away 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.600 book bags, food, basketball. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.320 You know. Music. It's just a vibe, man. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:32.560 So if you're in the Bronx August twenty fifth, Sunday, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.560 August twenty fifth, pull up to Marriam Day, get you 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.200 some glizzies, get you some hamburgers. Some Hamburgers and glizzies. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.400 We on deck man, bring the kids. Is a fun day. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.719 We're gonna have a good time. So my music segment 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.760 which I have, I have a music segment this week. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:50.120 Y'all. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:57.279 This one guy, his name is Marcus Klay. He's a 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:02.640 dope young rapper. He's actually really dope. I've discovered him 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.799 a couple of years ago. I was just on Instagram 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.920 with somebody at tagged me and Sunny did so I've 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.760 been watching him and. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:12.800 He has this song. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.840 Dedicated to Sonya Massy called Say Her Name, and it's 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.880 a dope song. It's talking about what happened to us, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.400 talk about, you know, in general, what we deal with 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.720 with black people deal with in America. So look it up. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.440 It's called Say Her Name by Marcus k you can 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.000 find Marcus clay You can find him on Instagram. It's 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.720 m A r q U s C l a E 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.880 Marcus clay Man. Naming the song is say Her Name 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.520 for Sonya Massey. It's a really dope song, y'all should 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.160 listen to. So, now what we're gonna do. We're gonna 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.480 bring on our guests. Man, We're gonna have a very 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.920 compelling discussion about the election. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.880 You know, we're gonna have some people who are pro 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.440 this antie that. We're gonna have some people that support Trump. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.920 We've got some people that don't support we got some 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.440 people that support Carol, And we want to get to 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.240 what the issues are. What are black men's issues, Why 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.280 they don't like candidates, why they do like candidates, what's 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.560 at stakedness We're gonna have. It's gonna be a compelling discussion. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.000 It's gonna be some debating, So stay tuned. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:21.760 What's going on? 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.720 Family, So today we're going to have a discussion. These 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.480 are brothers who I've known, friends, family, all of the above, 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.240 and they're black men, as you can see, and you know, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.560 there is a lot of talk about black men in 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.320 this election and what they want, what they don't want. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.160 You know, online there's been these feuds between people who 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.439 want Kamala, people who don't want Kamala, people for Trump, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.160 people who don't want Trump, and I've been seeing it. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.600 I've been engaged in a lot of these dialogues. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.000 So I wanted to take time out to bring this 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.920 to TMI and have a discussion with black you know, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.840 and get the different perspectives, different views. So today we 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.680 have on this panel my brother Angelo Pinto, who is 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.960 one of the co founders of Until Freedom and. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.040 He is a lawyer. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.880 We also have this esteem Jeff Johnson, who does everything 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.960 you know what he does. And we have my brother 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:24.520 James Bond, who is the founder of Dash organization about 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.760 fathers and fore fatherhood. He also does a lot of 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.240 management within the music industry and he's just a down 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.080 to earth brother of mins. And we have also have 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.880 another one of a good friend of minees the brother 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.240 Gotham from Harlem. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.319 You see he got Halem New York on his shirt. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:47.000 And we open up this conversation and you know, like 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.080 I said, it's been a lot of talk online and 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.960 so many different views. You know, I think, for me, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:58.600 what what what troubles me? Is not who somewhat votes 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:05.000 for right or what your preference is, it's why right, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.000 And then it's the way that you go about saying 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.120 that you don't want to vote for someone. There's this 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.800 this thing that I've seen, you know. I posted my 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:20.240 brother Rosparrock saying that he said that a man said 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.880 he would rather shoot herself in the head before he 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:27.319 voted for Kaana Harris, and he said, but he didn't 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.400 have that energy for Trump, but he felt the need 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.400 to express this level of disdain for this woman. And 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.200 that's the thing that confuses me because never had any 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.960 political views prior to this, Like I have never heard 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.240 them saying anything. They've just been quiet. But as soon 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.240 as this woman, you know, was announcing that she was 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.440 joinning for president, there was so much negative backlash talking 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.240 about her this she's not black, she didn't do this, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.800 she don't deserve this. She's actually to me, and on paper, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.839 she's probably the most qualified presidential candidate that we've had. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.160 Like when you look at all her qualifications, I don't 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.120 think there's been a candidate that's more qualified than them. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.600 So this backlash just disturbed me. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.840 So I wanted to have this conversation with you brothers 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.560 and just get your perspective on what do you think 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.760 that backlash comes from, and do you think is warranted 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.560 or do you not think it's worth Angela, what do 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:27.040 you think? 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:28.000 I mean? 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.600 I think some of what we're seeing right now is 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.920 things that we saw with the Obama presidency. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.400 I think when you have a. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:41.800 Black person who's potentially going to secure the highest office 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.360 in the country, they're going to be met with racism. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.320 Black folks are met with racism in this country, and 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.480 they're not trying and they're not trying to accomplish a 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:50.600 feat like that, just. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.520 Doing everyday activities. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.080 Black folks are encountering police violence and a number of 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.080 other issues. But I think when you look at what's 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.040 happening with her, it's similar to what happened with President Obama. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.959 He experienced a tremendous amount of racism because he was 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:10.040 running for presidents his family experienced a tremendous amount of racism, and. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.839 I think it's no different for her. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.920 I think the additional pieces that she's also a woman, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.760 so I think there's also a gender a gendered kind 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.960 of disrespect that she's experiencing as well. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.600 For me, if to your point. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.720 If you disagree with her, if you don't think she's 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.400 the appropriate candidate, I think that's a different conversation. But 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.920 because of the history of racism in America and the 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:40.199 history of gender depression in America, she's experiencing a kind 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:45.640 of vitriol and hate that many candidates, white candidates never 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.400 have to experience. Now, I think the other pieces that 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.760 black folks shouldn't contribute to that. We already know that 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.120 white folks and other folks are going to participate in 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.320 that kind of activity, which is not only going to 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.800 have an impact for her, but it's going to have 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.720 ant for the Black community at large, and I think 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.640 black folks shouldn't participate in that. If we want to 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.840 have heated debate and discussion, which we should abut the 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.760 political merit of her and the political merit of other candidates, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.880 we should engage in that dialogue. But I think there's 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.920 a way to do so without disrespecting her and ultimately 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.520 disrespecting black folks. But not just black folks. I think 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.960 there's a kind of disrespect for black folks who are 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:29.359 trying to attain political position, which is also tremendously problematic 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.439 because it's not just her, but there's other black folks 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.840 who are aspiring. And people often talk about the presidency 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.160 of the United States, but we don't have many black 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.679 governors either, right, so there's still a lot of political 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.120 positions in the United States of America that black folks 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.160 are trying to break into or enter into, I should say, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.880 and when we engage or participate in a race based 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.679 discussion about them, I think some of that sets us back, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.360 and we certainly shouldn't participate and that either race based 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.240 or gender based disrespect towards her. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.959 Now, I have a different perspective around where. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.640 She lands politically, but I think before we could even 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.520 get into that, I think we need to be able 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.160 to say we shouldn't participate in the disrespect. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.439 James, what do you think? 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:18.200 I mean? 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.720 I agree with Angelo, you know, just to piggyback off 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.440 what he said. I mean, I think a lot of 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.240 it comes from her being a woman. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:25.560 Right. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.880 I've spoken to men and engaged with them, and they 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.640 told me, listen, a woman is not supposedly I spoke 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.880 with guys who a church goers avidly. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.280 And they say in the Bible says the women is 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.080 not supposed to lead. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.160 So everybody has their perspective on it from that point 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.400 of view, but you know, just in large, as Angela 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.440 already stated, she's a black woman, we never asked these 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.320 questions about the counterparts. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:50.800 You know, where they come from, what, you know, what 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:51.840 are their nationalities. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.840 It's just based on the politics and the policies that 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.000 they're trying to put in place. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.200 So you know, my outlook is that as a black woman. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.200 Because I see it, I ask that I'm looking forward 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.840 to seeing and hearing her policies more. But thus far, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.440 I'm standing on that side of the fence, and I 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.320 don't consider myself Republican or Democrat, but I go with 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.760 the pros and the cons of you know, what these 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:18.800 people bring to the table. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.600 That's what I look at. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.760 Okay, God, what do you think. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.160 First? 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.320 Like, I'm not even into the political thing to say, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.600 like I've been following the politics of what's been going on. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.960 My standpoint is just really just on morals and standards 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:43.920 of how she's moving and this race is like, you know, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.440 they always say, your first impression is your best impression. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.720 So since she stepped out, it's just been like she's 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.680 trying to sell something to us, and it's like as 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.680 me being around many different Black people who have different upbringings, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:05.960 it seems like she's leaning more towards the nigga shit, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.920 like to bring us in in it, And to me, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.800 I always feel like that insult my intelligence when you 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.920 when you move like that, you make me feel like 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.920 this is what you think about your culture, Like we 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.120 can't comprehend with you on a higher level, so you 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.520 dumb yourself down to come down to the lower masses 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.680 of people to be like for instance, people ask about 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.600 like with the Tupac shit, it's like, how does that 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.200 have anything to do with politics? 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.760 It really don't have something to do with character. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.840 Your character is everything, So me knowing black people that 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.960 never that don't listen to rap at all. That and 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.160 if you genuine about it, if you get asked that question, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.920 it should be listen, I don't listen to that. I 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.920 don't listen to rap music. I prefer jazz, I prefer 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.520 rock and roll. But it's like everything that they asking her, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.880 he's leading more on to the nigga shit, the bringing MEGANI, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.159 Stallion Doug. It's just it's just it's just repetitively, like 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.440 he just keep doing it. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.920 So it makes you it makes you be like, yo, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.080 what is you really? Hoiden? 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.840 So even with the even with the racing, we as people, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.320 it wasn't attack of her to say, oh, she's not black. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.480 The reason why them statements have pain is because he 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:29.760 repeatedly from being an Attorney general to being a district attorney. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.280 When she got sworn in, she's sworn in as the end. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.199 So now when you fast forward and it comes to 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.840 you being a VP, you swear in as African American. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.680 So people will say, okay, what's wrong with that? Okay, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.560 my thing is this me. I'm half Dominican, so all 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:54.600 my life identify as African American. So now my Dominican 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.080 side stay. If I walk into we all been in prison. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.760 You walk into prison, and then you see the Dominicans 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.160 is running the show. And then I just decide to say, yo, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:10.040 I'm Dominican. The dominic gonna be like, no fight, no fight, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.320 you can't do that. I understand what I'm saying. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.520 That's no when I say I just think for me, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.000 I don't. I don't ever remember a time when she 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.520 didn't acknowledge being black. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.320 I I'm not saying I'm not saying that, know. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.480 What I'm just saying this, but that's that's what you 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.240 would say if I was always Dominican, Right, if I 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.399 was Dominican in black and I hung with Dominicans in 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.760 blacks because I was Dominican in black. When I go 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.160 to the jail and I see my Dominican mans, I'm 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.600 hang with my Dominican mans, i'm'a hang with my black mans. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.400 So niggain't gonna say you switching up if you've always 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:43.000 been Dominican and black, I'm just my thing. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.840 If I if I always identify as African American, that's 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:48.240 gonna be. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.960 That's gonna come out as I. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.840 As I speak to you and you get to know me, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.960 I'm gonna say, yo, I'm mixed with Dominicans, but I'm 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:55.920 always gonna stand. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.000 So it's just like in a in. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.200 A face when you come in, it's like you you 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.400 you black, if you the Dominicans and all I got 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.400 their own shit going. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.240 So it's either gonna be you gonna choose. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.800 This side of your culture and go over there, or 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.760 you're gonna choose the culture that you've been saying you 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.920 African American and staying over here. You can't use it 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.760 when it's beneficial to you to say, yo, I'm okay, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.359 I'm this now, and then I understand what I'm saying. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.840 So I don't really understand what you're saying because I 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.760 know mixed people who are have different ethnicity and to 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:27.800 come from different culture. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.200 But some people didn't play both of those those my time. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.959 I think the bigger issue here is Kamala's always claimed 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:40.160 to be black, so it's not as if she never 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.520 ignored either side. I mean, I was a national youth 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.800 director at NAACP back in two thousand through two thousand 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.720 and three, and I wrote a check for her when 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.600 she was running for DA in San Francisco, and I 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:58.040 fucked with her because she was. Everything she said to 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.639 me and everything I saw was she was moving as 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.639 a black woman, she was engaging with black people. She 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:10.520 embraced her Indian heritage, but she she was raised as 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.000 a black woman. She she didn't choose Howard because she 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.359 was trying to find blackness. She chose Howard because she 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.960 wanted to lean into it. She didn't become an AKA 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.240 because she was trying to find blackness. And we can argue, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.520 you know, some of the some of the elitism that 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.640 exists within our community as it relates to HBCUs and 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.800 Greek letter organizations. But but we still know that they 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.680 are black. And so I just think we gotta we 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.520 gotta be real careful about some of the talking points 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.120 from the other side that we listened to or don't 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:50.040 dive into, because she never she never disengaged from her blackness. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.359 She leaned into her blackness way more than she did 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.320 anything else. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.600 Of course, And of course I don't I don't think. 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.120 I don't think he denied did. She never denied did. 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.080 But it's like if you ask anybody who's mixed, right, 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.760 and they they stand on the African American when you 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.400 when you go fill out anything, job applications and anything, 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.879 you're gonna put what you dominantly is I'm African American. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:15.800 Then I'm missed. 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.920 I'm not gonna say on a on a job application, 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:19.919 I'm Dominican. 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.840 And then what what I'm asking is, where did she 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:24.399 do that? Where did where did she? 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.840 She got sworn in, She got sworn in as an 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:32.760 Indian the first Indian bomb UH attorney general in the 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.360 first UH Indian UH. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.640