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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 4: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 4: joined by the voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith.

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Speaker 2: We are one month.

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Speaker 4: Away from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and Buddy,

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Speaker 4: I was just talking to you about your podcast last

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Speaker 4: week with Jalil. I think Tyler Cochlan was signed the

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Speaker 4: second you guys stopped down.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be a theme with our podcast, this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and it's a big one. It was really

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Speaker 1: the one position that was sort of just blinking, need,

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Speaker 1: need need. You know, a pass catching tight end. Will

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Speaker 1: Disley was great last year. I know a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: you know, look at that through a couple of different lenses.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's that shows you what Greg Roman can

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Speaker 1: do with the tight end position, how good this offense

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Speaker 1: is for a pass catching tight end that you can

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Speaker 1: make Will Disley you know that viable of a pass

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Speaker 1: catching tight end ever after having been that for pretty

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Speaker 1: much the entirety of his career. So now imagine placing

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Speaker 1: someone that is more geared toward the pass catching side

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Speaker 1: of things, the receiving side of things, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the blocking side. Of things when it comes to their strength.

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Speaker 1: And I know Conklin's not having Ingram that was who

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Speaker 1: we were talking about two weeks ago when he was

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Speaker 1: out for a visit. Ultimately chose the Broncos over the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: But Tyler Concklin's a good tight end man in terms

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Speaker 1: of what is asked of him. I went through every

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Speaker 1: single one of his targets, every single one of his catches,

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Speaker 1: every single one of his explosives, his first down catches,

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Speaker 1: his touchdowns, basically half of his routes that he ran. Look,

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Speaker 1: he is a receiving tight end. That is what he is.

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Speaker 1: He has got incredible hands. He made a ton of

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Speaker 1: contested catches. I think I posted one the touchdown he

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Speaker 1: got sandwiched by two different defensive backs as Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: fit that throw into a very tight window, held on

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Speaker 3: And there's a whole lot of those.

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Speaker 1: When you go through his tape from just last year

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Speaker 1: and you think about the options and all of the

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Speaker 1: belly aching out in New York over who was getting

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Speaker 1: targets and who wasn't. You still have Garrett Wilson out there,

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Speaker 1: you had Devonte Adams show up. You have you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Alan Lazard, who's always been a favorite target of

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Speaker 3: And here's a tight.

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Speaker 1: End that's rolling out with fifty plus catches, with five touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: with five hundred receiving yards. And those are good numbers, man,

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Speaker 1: those are good numbers on a team with DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was a great signing of value signing.

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Speaker 1: And much like we've seen in years past, Chris, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jared Cook, Gerald Everett, you know, Tyler Conklin is just

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Speaker 1: great things because justin Herbert's quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just the inconsistent quarterback play in New York two

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Speaker 4: over the last four years. To put up those numbers

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Speaker 2: That was probably the last piece.

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Speaker 4: In terms of a position that they need.

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Speaker 2: To fill before the draft.

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Speaker 4: And now I think at twenty two overall, the possibilities

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Speaker 4: So really, I think all moves now at number twenty

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Speaker 4: If he drops, you can go Golden, you can go Hampton,

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Speaker 2: Tackle and edge. Really there's I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, it would be silly to even speculate who would

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Speaker 2: To twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing and we talked about this, how

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Speaker 3: Last year, we didn't quite get into it as much.

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Speaker 1: So I bring all that up because, okay, so there's three,

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Speaker 1: worries we have time to develop a tight end. We

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Speaker 1: don't if Colston Lovelin and Tyler Warren are gone. You

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of That's what I think people have

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Speaker 1: the way that Joe Ortiz's approach free agency has done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and free agency is not over you.

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Speaker 4: I'm very confident that'll get done in ample time. But

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Speaker 4: lot of like a lot of conversation about McMillan's forty

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Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, I'd be so, I'd be crazy surprised if

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's been whispered as, oh, does

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Speaker 1: I don't have the you know, the insight maybe with

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Speaker 1: Chris it's LIKE i could see him drafting a running

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Speaker 1: When i'm running through the different options for The, chargers

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Speaker 1: for The chargers because of how they want to. Play

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Speaker 1: be the, bully and the best way to be the

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Speaker 1: brought in you, Know Andre james to create some depthit

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Speaker 1: zion at. Seventeen still kind of waiting for that to

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Speaker 1: shake itself, out but you Know Gray's Abel, Tyler, booker

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Speaker 1: of goes back to your original, Point, chris where.

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Speaker 1: if they wait Maybe Quinchahn judkins is there at fifty.

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Speaker 1: Five maybe It's Camp scataboo at fifty. Five maybe It's

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Speaker 4: NO i go back to something THAT dj said when

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Speaker 4: like what are The lions doing? Well The lions already

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Speaker 4: took care of everything. Else they took care of their offensive,

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Speaker 4: line their defensive. Line i'm not sure that The chargers

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Speaker 4: there's these philosophies like which you draft a running back

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Speaker 4: Player he doesn't have to leave the. FIELD i could

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Speaker 4: see The Denver broncos maybe getting him and adding him

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Speaker 4: have him super super. HIGH dj has him as a

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Speaker 4: top six, prospect and we're seeing conversations about him being

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Speaker 4: available at twenty. Two would you trade up for a tight?

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Speaker 4: End would you trade it for A Tyler warren or

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Speaker 1: what every single team in the league needs at tight.

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Speaker 1: End you, know he's just he's that. Good he's a

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah well we'll kick back and.

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Speaker 1: Find our way to thirty two and pick up forty

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Speaker 1: the level of player that could be. Available we've talked

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Speaker 1: About Kenneth grant already and how Much Jim harball loves

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Speaker 1: him and why if he's, There i'd be so surprised

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Speaker 1: lot of people Like Derek. Harmon and then the funny

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Speaker 1: thing is is you kind of go through. That then

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Speaker 1: lot Of, tennessee but you watch him and, man that

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Speaker 1: the ability to get, upfield and you're, Like, okay what's

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Speaker 1: More and then what's the difference Between egbuka Or golden

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Speaker 1: picks and hope that, hey Here's Quinn Shawn judkins instead

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Speaker 1: others in order to get After, giddons you, Know judkins

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Speaker 1: and one of the you, Know Tyler williams as your interior,

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Speaker 1: body guys opposed to a pass. Rush but you know

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Speaker 1: What i'm, Saying like that's the that's what all of

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Speaker 1: the one year deals that they've been, Making like that's

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Speaker 1: know taking a huge swing On Milton williams because they

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Speaker 1: looks regardless of. Position that's always what they were going to,

434
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: do and that's kind of the way they approach for.

435
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: It and now we feel good about, It like you,

436
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: know AM i. AM i completely and totally settled That

437
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: Mike williams is going to be healthy for seventeen games

438
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: and be YOUR x. Receiver, no you can't be because

439
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: of his, history but feel pretty good about it. TODAY

440
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 1: i feel, like, yeah you know, what you roll out

441
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: there With laddin the, Slot mike is your ex and

442
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: a couple different options AT z INCLUDING. Q, YEAH i

443
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about. That feel pretty good About Will

444
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: disley And Tyler. CONKLIN i feel pretty good about whoever

445
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: wins the center job along With Beckton, zion you, Know

446
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: slater and. All feel good about. That feel good About Nashie,

447
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: harris you. Know and then we get to defensive. Line

448
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: and that's that's WHY i bring up interior defensive. Line it's, Like,

449
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: okay they got they got to your tart and they

450
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: got you, Know DeShawn hand And Nikmon, jones and it's, like,

451
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: yeah that's that's something they're gonna need to figure.

452
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 4: Out, Yeah but the breadcrumbs tell you that they will

453
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: get those defensive tackles of the.

454
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: Draft everything every person we talked.

455
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 4: To last month In indianapolis defensive, tackle defensive, tackle the

456
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 4: deepest defensive tackle draft we've ever. Seen running back in

457
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: another deep. Position i'm with. YOU i don't think that

458
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of trade ups in this.

459
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 4: DRAFT i just think that from outside the top, five

460
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 4: top seven, guys there's just too many players that probably

461
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: have the same grade and it's kind of your flavor

462
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 4: AND i don't know if it's advantageous to trade, Up

463
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: and especially with The chargers. Too you mentioned defensive. Tackle

464
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 4: have about corner, two LIKE i really love How Tar

465
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: Heeps still And Cam hart, played but at the end

466
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: of the, day you know they don't have a lot

467
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: of time on. Task their fifth round guys WHO i

468
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: believe will turn themselves into two really good starters in this,

469
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: league but you have to have a little more depth

470
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: there and maybe some other guys that you can depend.

471
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 4: On and you, know you bring In Dante jackson From,

472
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: pittsburgh but quarterback is another position money THAT i don't

473
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 4: feel like they are a complete operation, Yet and and

474
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 4: AGAIN i Guess Dante jackson is just another example Of,

475
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: hey these kind of stop gaps for a year or

476
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: two while they continue to build through the. Draft that's

477
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: that's kind of the theme of free. Agency and by the,

478
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: way you have to overpay free. Agency Milton williams was

479
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: super overpaid because The patriots had a ton of money

480
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: and they were desperate to actually bring some guys into

481
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: my railboles. Program Joe ortize has never operated that. Way

482
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: The ravens won't operate that. Way so you weren't going

483
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: to overpay For Milton. WOYD i think that would have

484
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: gotten people, excited but at the end of the, day

485
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: he would have made way, way way too much money

486
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: when you have other needs you have to.

487
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: Fill, YEAH i.

488
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: Think and one, Thing, look DO i know this to be? Fact,

489
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: NO i did not get this from a team, source

490
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: BUT i heard enough to believe it to be. True

491
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: they were in On DeVante. Adams they were definitely interested

492
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: in doing that deal and The rams got. Him they

493
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: were in on dk METCALF i did they want to

494
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: go to thirty three million in a second their second round?

495
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: Pick THAT i don't, know but they were in knowing

496
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: that this guy's going to be a thirty million dollar

497
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: a year player and that was going to cost you

498
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: A day two. Pick so they were in on, that

499
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: and they were in On, poona and they tried to

500
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: Bring poona. Back so, LIKE i think the thing that

501
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: the thing.

502
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: About WHAT.

503
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: I would be excited IF i were A charger fan

504
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: about the way That georgie's and his staff approached the

505
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: offseason is when they miss stout on what they wanted

506
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: that they were willing to take a big swing and

507
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: write a big check.

508
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: For they didn't.

509
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: Overcompensate they didn't feel the need to overreact and go

510
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: out and and oh we missed On DeVante. Adams well

511
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, what all, right here's our two and here's

512
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: thirty three million bucks a year for Dk. Metcalf they were, like,

513
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: no we've got our. Price we're comfortable with our. Price

514
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of. Money but if that's not,

515
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: right then then. Good Aaron banks seventy seven million. Bucks,

516
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: no you, Know Dan moore fifty million dollars for two. Years,

517
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: no Not Will fries eighteen million bucks a year, that you,

518
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: know coming off a broken. Leg, no you, know like

519
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: that's that's. Responsible that's how teams that believe in their

520
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: process of drafting and developing and. Coaching that's how they.

521
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: Operate they're just not going to get. Hamstrung AND i

522
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: think you look at two years ago or was it

523
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: three years and it's three years three years ago when

524
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: The chargers had all that money to spend and they

525
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: had a coach that wanted to go out on a

526
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: shopping spree BECAUSE i need, THIS i need, THIS i

527
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: need this in order for it to. WORK i need J. C,

528
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: JACKSON i Need Sebastian joseph D i Need lynn Bald

529
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: JOE'S i need. IT i need, it go get. It

530
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: and they spent all this money and it was a

531
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: complete and total disaster and it bit them and it

532
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: just doesn't you know that that approach rarely works if

533
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: you're the.

534
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: It's a temporary high, money it's a temporary. High it's

535
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: it For march And april to get excited about and

536
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: uh youllo pop of the off. Season but it doesn't

537
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: necessarily equate to.

538
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: Wins, yeah, yeah you're exactly, Right.

539
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: Chris and so to to kind of just finish that

540
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: point and and and let you get back to. It

541
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: they they were always going to add that this was

542
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: the way they were going to. Operate we got excited

543
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: about T, higgins we got excited About Trey, smith you,

544
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: know but it was, like once the numbers beyond Those

545
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: once once those two guys got franchised and the numbers

546
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: were what they were in a pretty weak free agent,

547
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: class you just knew this is the way it was

548
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: gonna end.

549
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 4: Up, yeah and, hey IF dk metcalf was In Powder,

550
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: blue would have been a lot of.

551
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: Fun T higgins the same.

552
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: Thing but If Matthew golden is In Powder blue and

553
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: he's making a fracture of the cost that he's given

554
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: you a similar production with lat McConkey on the other,

555
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: side And Mike williams healthy and maybe quit and taking

556
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 4: another step in year, three then we have a whole different.

557
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 4: Operation AND i love the process That joe has gone through.

558
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: It i'm fascinated with team building and just philosophies and

559
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 4: from him to come from the school Of Ozzie newsom

560
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: and The, ravens AND dj talks about it all the.

561
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: TIME i JUST i really have a great deal of

562
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: admiration for how they build their, team AND i think

563
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: sometimes we forget because they won eleven games last, year

564
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: they were in a really bad way with their cap

565
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: when they had to make all these decisions With keenan

566
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: And mike And joey And. Khalil and now the cap is.

567
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: Healthy they are planning, for you, know A Rashaun slater.

568
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: Deal they're planning for all the big deals that they're

569
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: gonna have to make with some of their current guys

570
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 4: down the. Line you, Know Derwin james may want some

571
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: money here in a little it SO i. DO i

572
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: do have a great deal of admiration for How Joe

573
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: ortiz is building this. Thing and don't let the eleven

574
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: wins fool. You they still need to get their cap.

575
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: Healthy they still need to draft and develop guys into

576
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: bona fhyte. Starters and that's why you're seeing some of

577
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: these really good stop. Gaps and we saw a bunch

578
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: of them last year that you, know we talked About.

579
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: Poona poona got paid because of how he performed with The.

580
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: CHARGERS i THOUGHT jk was, like we weren't EXPECTING jk

581
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 4: to do what he did because of his injury, history

582
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: and he was. Remarkable SO i can, go you, know

583
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: five or six other guys down the line that they

584
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: had really good years on one year. Deals Elijah moulden

585
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: was rewarded for how well he. Played SO i like

586
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: what they did AND i think it just sets them

587
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 4: up very nicely for the. Draft and you, know we

588
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: talk about Tar heeb still helping you win a game

589
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: In atlanta last, year And Joe alt being one of

590
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 4: the best rookie right tackles we've seen in quite some,

591
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: time And ladd McConkey over a thousand yards And hunter.

592
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: Catches it's these are rookies that The chargers are gonna

593
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: have on their team in a month that will contribute

594
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five in a very similar.

595
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Way.

596
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, look they're the best exercise to perform if you're

597
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: trying to figure, Out, okay what are? They how are

598
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: they just go through each position group better or? Worse, better, worse, same, better, worse?

599
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Same you, know what do you? Have how do you

600
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: feel about the running back room they need to drive?

601
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: Somebody naji feel great about the idea of being a

602
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: physical pounding between the tackles or you, know gap power

603
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: scheme that's going to fit him offensive line.

604
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: Better there's just no.

605
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Question you bring In Makai beckton and you bring in

606
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: some competition at the center. Position second year From Joe

607
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Walt All pro season First, yeah offensive, line, better running back,

608
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: room let's talk about it after the. Draft wide receiver

609
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: room better or. WORSE i think you. Can it's better

610
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: Because Mike williams is healthy today and he's two years

611
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: removed from a.

612
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Same right now. Almost.

613
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: YEAH i JUST i look at last year AND i think,

614
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: about you know, what it Was, quinton it was, lad

615
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: it Was Simi, fajoko it was you know WHAT i,

616
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: mean LIKE Dj shark never really. Played SO i just

617
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: feel like Putting mike in, There i'm comfortable saying that

618
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: it's better right. Now it still needs work, Though right

619
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: tight End Tyler conklin Will disley's back And Tyler Conklin

620
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: Overhyden hurst who barely played last year, better you, know

621
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: opposite side of the. Ball edge probably not as. Good

622
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: that's why that's the one position THAT i think people are.

623
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: Overlooking if one of these edge guys starts to slide

624
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about interior d line or running, back

625
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: or if you get one of these edges to, slide

626
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: If Mike green, slides If Johad campbell, SLIDE i think

627
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: that's the sneaky sort of play Because bud The prison

628
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: is last, Year khalil's on a one year, Deal tuley

629
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: is going to be a full time starter now with

630
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: No Joey. Bosa that's a, premium premium. Position so that's

631
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: the one where it's, like, okay edge not as good this. Year,

632
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: CORNER i don't. KNOW i think it's probably not as.

633
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: GOOD i Thought Christian fulton had a really good year last.

634
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: Year so that's where corner comes into. Play If Will

635
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: johnson is, sliding If Jade baron is there at twenty, Two,

636
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: okay now that makes sense to try to make that better, safety, sane,

637
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: Right and so like there's your exercise of sort of

638
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: where are they? At and that's where THEN i Circle,

639
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: okay edge and then obviously interior defensive line we're gonna

640
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: talk about they' nowhere near as good as they were

641
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: last year with No Morgan fox and no Pun. Afford

642
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: so that's where there's the big sort of like blinking

643
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: light of this has to be squared away and what

644
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: a great draft to be able to square it away.

645
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: In and that's and that's, why And i'll just finish

646
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: the point with This chris Quickly that's WHY i WOULD

647
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Speaker 1: i think from, now from here you're gonna be in

648
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Speaker 1: this weight and see mode with the free agency to

649
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: see what they, get and then once you get your

650
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: draft squared, away then you figure, Out, okay do we

651
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: bring Von miller in on a one year? Deal do

652
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: we bring That Jude on in on a one year?

653
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Deal do we?

654
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: Like that's so if you don't get that, edge then

655
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: that's where you can kind of go and, Play oh

656
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: we didn't get the, corner all, Right let's go Get Rasul.

657
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Douglas let's let's kind of check the medicals again On

658
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: asante and see if we feel good about him coming

659
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: back on a one year. Pro that's kind of HOW

660
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: i think this is now laying out they got their free,

661
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: AGENCY i feel is done, now it's all, draft and

662
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: then post draft will be that next wave of free

663
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: agents like The Elijah, moldens The Christian, fold things like.

664
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Speaker 4: That, yeah you, know keep in mind To Junior colson

665
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: didn't play really last, year you, know and that's a

666
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: guy we were expecting big things out of his rookie

667
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: year and Luckily denzel And dayon held it. Down but

668
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: that's just another impact. Player and you know we talk

669
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: about positions, specific but just straight playmakers and guys who

670
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: can make a difference on. DEFENSE i Think Junior colson

671
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: is going to find his way out of the field

672
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. Five oh, yeah and make an impact

673
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: that maybe we didn't see last, year just In Jesse minter's.

674
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 4: Defense and again you said, it there needs to be

675
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: some improvement across the defensive. Line we talked about the

676
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: depth in the in the draft and you know, edge

677
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: you Know Bud, dupree he came in late last year.

678
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: Too so who's to, say like you, said like a

679
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: Von miller or another edge guy who who wants to you,

680
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: know he feels like he's got a year, left can

681
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: make an, impact can make a, difference can come.

682
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: In later in the. Year so it's, fun.

683
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: MAN i think That charger fans should be excited about

684
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: the next. Month and you, know going through all these,

685
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: exercises obviously it's all this speculation just it makes for

686
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: a lot of. Entertainment but when it's all said and,

687
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Done i'm very confident that The chargers are gonna do

688
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: what they did last year and really build their team

689
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: out with future starters and guys who can contribute right

690
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: away in twenty twenty.

691
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Five, yeah it's a Great i'm glad you brought up the.

692
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Speaker 1: LINEBACKERS i forgot that, group SO i was very polite

693
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: of you the way you approach that to acknowledge that

694
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Speaker 1: it was the one group of players THAT i didn't.

695
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Mention it's arguably at all, they're you, know one of

696
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: their strongest position. Groups If junior is who we think he,

697
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: is And i'd be very surprised if he wasn't the

698
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: fact that he is going to be healthy this year

699
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: and out there With, deayon you are talking about incredibly,

700
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: athletic incredibly, physical smart players at that level of the.

701
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Speaker 3: Defense you.

702
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Know for the one thing That i'll also point out

703
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: is just kind of think back twelve months and how

704
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: you felt about the signings Of Tier Tart Puniford fulton

705
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: trading For Elijah, molden like Go Will, disley you, know

706
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: is their number one free agent. Signing like think about

707
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: all of those moves AND. Jk, dobbins you know and

708
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: like and what they ended up. Becoming and that's the

709
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: one thing that's always imp THAT i don't think people

710
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: put enough stock into is you have a front office

711
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: that has been here for a year now and has,

712
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: demonstrated based on their first year that they know how

713
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: to go find players that fit their system and fit their,

714
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: coaches and they have a coaching state aff that can

715
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: coach guys. Up and you, know it Got chris o'liria

716
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: promotion as safeties. Coach that's why he's no longer there

717
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: because of what he was able to do with a

718
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: lowie And derwin And Elijah molden and Get elijah that

719
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: big money. Extension AND i would suspect that's probably going

720
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: to be the same this coming. Year if if Coach

721
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: clinkscale does it again with, corners he's gonna find himself

722
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: A dc. Gig If Mike elston does it again with

723
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: this defensive, line you, know with No Joey bosa and

724
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: with a rookie interior defensive lineman to go with Tier

725
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: tart And jones in, hand he's going to get a.

726
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Shot Like so that's something to remember is these coaches

727
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Speaker 1: are really really Gosanj law With ladd and what end

728
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: WITH q and and some of the moments THAT q

729
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: had and taking another step in his career like those

730
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: are all those are all guys that you.

731
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: Maybe get a head coaching, job, Buddy like we thought

732
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: that that's going to happen this past.

733
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: Year you, know, yeah. Exactly so that's the pairing.

734
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: Too it's not just the name on the back of the,

735
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: jersey it's who that player is coming. To football is

736
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate ultimate circumstance based. Sport there are eleven guys

737
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: on the side of the field in which you're. Performing

738
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: they all need to perform at a certain level for

739
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: you to be able to. Excel and you need to

740
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: have the right play, call and you need to have

741
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: the right technique and coaching throughout the, week and like

742
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that's all a huge part of. It and so that's

743
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: AND i think that's one of the reasons why they

744
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: like their ten draft picks and they want their comp draft,

745
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: picks and a lot of these free agent signings play

746
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: into the comp formula because they just feel better about

747
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: evaluating guys at that, level dropping them into their system

748
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: with their coaches and developing them and not having to

749
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: have them break any habits that they learned.

750
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Elsewhere, yep aimen to that.

751
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: Man anything else before we get out of.

752
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: Here, NO i would just, say you, know whoever they

753
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: sign in the next five. Minutes i'll be excited to

754
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: talk about them next.

755
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Week, chris get wait and get.

756
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: Wait this is gonna be a blockbuster trade as soon

757
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: as we leave it at. That, UH i appreciate you

758
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: guys listening to watching my mic. Is i'm In spokane

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00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: for the WOMEN'S ncaa tournament and, uh The wi fi

760
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: here at my hotel has been a little, spotty so

761
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: you guys probably won't see what we have lived the last, hour.

762
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: So you'll be.

763
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Great go downstairs and put a bunch of money on

764
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: red or black or the double zero and zero whatever

765
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: that thing.

766
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: Is, now, yeah all, right we'll get at it here

767
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: for buddy, Up. Chris this has been charges. Weekly we'll

768
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: see you next, week, guys