WEBVTT - Pablo Escobar’s Problematic Cocaine Hippos

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey Elizabeth, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's ridiculous. You know it's ridiculous. I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you it's ridiculous. That whole food fat of like

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<v Speaker 1>putting gold leaf on food. Oh yeah, that's more than ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absurd. Yeah, it's That's all I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It's ridiculous. Stop it. You know what I

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<v Speaker 1>learned the other day is if you if you get

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<v Speaker 1>gotten your car and you pointed your car straight up

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<v Speaker 1>at the sky and drove right like I do. Everyone. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just imagine that you have a special car that

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<v Speaker 1>can drive like a rocket right, so you you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised at what the FOURD escape. Let's say your FOURD

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<v Speaker 1>escape wants to really escape. You drive straight up, it

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<v Speaker 1>would take you one hour to get to space, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it takes less time to get to space than

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<v Speaker 1>would to drive across l A. Wow. Wow, so he

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<v Speaker 1>did exactly. You know, it just puts his stuff into perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an hour long car drive. Come to go, a

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<v Speaker 1>long car drive, have an afford escape? Yeah, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>good job. Oh and you took Captain Kirk with you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know it's also ridiculous. Besides all that tell

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<v Speaker 1>me Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippo. Now, if you're wondering, cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>hippos are not actually made of cocaine, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>paid with it or paid for with it're paid in cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>You're paid in cocaine. They're cocaine warriors if you If

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<v Speaker 1>you go online right, just type in the words Pablo

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<v Speaker 1>Escobar and hippos, you'll see a bunch of headlines and

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<v Speaker 1>like there be things like Pablo Escobar why scientists want

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Colombia's hippos And they're like, what what did

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo Escobar too? That makes like the worst mad live exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Dudude Bro has been dead for almost thirty years that

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<v Speaker 1>people are still blaming the state of Columbia on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this case, it airs a direct connection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's pretty much less well, he could be

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<v Speaker 1>on the island, but Tupac. Yeah yeah, maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 1>private island. Did it is a fun island. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fast folks, a problematic island, super fun. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're ready for a very very bizarre story about

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<v Speaker 1>a group of hippos who have recently been legally determined

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<v Speaker 1>to be people under US laws. Right, this is all

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<v Speaker 1>the same story. Okay. Our story starts in sub Saharan Africa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of hippos have been minding their own

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<v Speaker 1>chilling in a lake in Africa. When they are abducted

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<v Speaker 1>and they're brought to New Orleans, You're like, wait, what, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>soon after they're in New Orleans and they don't stay

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<v Speaker 1>there long. They've become part of an exotic animal zoo,

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<v Speaker 1>constructed to amuse one of the world's richest men, the

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<v Speaker 1>infamous cocaine cartel leader. You know him. I love him,

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Pablo Escobar. I love not really,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more fun to say it that way. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the animals that Pablo Escobar, you know, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>we are now collectively going to be calling cocaine hippos.

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<v Speaker 1>They have become this unofficial symbol of Colombia's sense of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's modern post Escobar sense of its off, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of reminiscent of their strange and violent history.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a way of recognizing who they are and who

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<v Speaker 1>they are becoming. Right, the cocaine hippos recommend they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of represent that transition. I swear it sounds wild, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to understand that Colombia is also the

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<v Speaker 1>place that gave us magical realism of Gabriel Garcia Marchez.

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<v Speaker 1>So having cocaine hippos be a symbol of the country

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<v Speaker 1>it's really not that far fetched for Columbia now. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an element of magical realism. Now. However, though, at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, the government of Columbia they want to kill

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<v Speaker 1>these hippos. That's not cool. Well, they also may want

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<v Speaker 1>to castrate them. They haven't made up their mind, so

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<v Speaker 1>they have options. Yeah, exactly, f Mary kill Mary, castrate Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that game. So there is a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that is going to be swirling around this. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's basically Pablo Escobar, there's a Colombian government, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the U. S government. But there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be essentially a fight over are these hippos people? So

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<v Speaker 1>why people care if these cocaine hippos are people, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because the US and the Colombian government basically orphaned

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<v Speaker 1>these hippos in their joint anti narcotics operation to take

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<v Speaker 1>down Pablo Escobar. You see, the cops killed Pablo Escobar,

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<v Speaker 1>and that left these hippos stranded in Colombia where they

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<v Speaker 1>have remained and really proliferated. Just I'm talking like happy,

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<v Speaker 1>happy hippos. They are hungry, hungry, they're horny, horny hippos.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're ready to hear the full story of Pablo

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<v Speaker 1>Escobar's cocaine hippos. You bet. This is Ridiculous Crime a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always murder free and a guaranteed one hundred percent ridiculous. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Forbes comes out with this list of the richest

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world. On that list is this ultra

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy Colombian named Pablo Escobar. His fortune is estimated at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty billion dollars at the time, which in today's money

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty six billion, which makes him richer than the

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<v Speaker 1>queen at the time, Queen of England. That is wow. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of money. But you know, well, cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>is a hell of a business, not just a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a drug, So there's a lot of money in it,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear. Yeah, No, it's a good one, Nick, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking to make money cocaine. Yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell people, Like, look, young people, just major in cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a growth and it's total growth. So Paulo Escobar

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<v Speaker 1>he takes all his cocaine profits and he buys just

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of stuff. I'm talking. He had multiple ranches

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, South American men have like a thing

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<v Speaker 1>for ranches and like the bulls and like the that

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<v Speaker 1>inherited Spanish legacy of what are you gonna do when

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<v Speaker 1>you're wealthy is to get and stancia rancho up hastienda, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he wants to get his He gets multiple ones.

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<v Speaker 1>He also buys a private island called Le Grande, and

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<v Speaker 1>on La le Grande he puts in la cassa grande,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, it just means the big guest, which

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<v Speaker 1>is ironic. In this big house, he has three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>guest rooms. So it's basically a hotel. No, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see this thing. Yeah, it's basically a hotel. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you could describe it that way, but it's like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like a medieval monastery in terms when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, where it's like really long, like

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<v Speaker 1>from the when you look at the building, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>white stone. It's these like you know, oval windows. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a really strikes like a boutique hotel. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go with that. It's a boutique hotel, something you

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<v Speaker 1>find on like monsierrat or comes right. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been there. But in each of these three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred guest rooms, he's got like all gold shower heads.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for three hundred all gold shower has. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time they're not being used. Yeah, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>it right there. So now let's see. He also owned

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<v Speaker 1>about let's see, you think, fifteen private jets because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to move that cocaine and that money around.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets six helicopters, a fleet of cars because he and

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<v Speaker 1>his brother loved to race cars. So they just had

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<v Speaker 1>like every fast car you could name, multiple times over,

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<v Speaker 1>and three whole pairs of pants exactly, and two pairs

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<v Speaker 1>of socks because he's an efficient business. I got we

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<v Speaker 1>wear one, you wash one. So Pablo Escobar, he's made

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<v Speaker 1>this fortune smuggling cocaine into America because America loves cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>And now meanwhile, he's making so much money that he

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<v Speaker 1>is like, he's writing off two billion dollars each year.

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<v Speaker 1>Just two rats, two rats, the rats, because he's putting

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<v Speaker 1>money in bags and burying it. He's putting money in

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<v Speaker 1>like rooftops and hiding it up in the rafters. He's

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<v Speaker 1>putting money every where he can that he thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>the cops won't find because he can't just go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bank exactly, he can't go to the A c.

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<v Speaker 1>M And just feed cash in. Yeah, it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>launder that money before it can be used, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the rats they go, oh, thanks, bro, you made us

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<v Speaker 1>some money. Snack, and they would just go and eat

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<v Speaker 1>through these bags of money, and they eat so much

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<v Speaker 1>each year that he has to write off two billion dollars. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just like cool, not a problem, just writting

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<v Speaker 1>it off to the rats. Keep them rats happy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>still apparently there's like all these rumors that there's Pablo

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<v Speaker 1>Escobars millions or rather billions buried all throughout Columbia. People

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<v Speaker 1>constantly go and try to find it. And the government

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbia has found a bunch of money, and these

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<v Speaker 1>like barrels because the money will rot if it's allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's if, you bury it and most likely rot

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<v Speaker 1>unless you do something to basically minimize the moisture. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, you know, her medically seal the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a pretty good chance that money would

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<v Speaker 1>still be there and not off all rotted. So they

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<v Speaker 1>should have invested in digging it up. They should have

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<v Speaker 1>invested in a food saver vacuum sealer. That's you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Public Escobar needed you on his team. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been so helpful. God, he probably would still be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of a logistic scale. Yeah, So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say you were Pablo Escobar and you had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>sum of billions of dollars that you've made off of

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<v Speaker 1>the cocaine trade. What would you want to buy with

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars? Like? Whatever you want? Pretty much obviously right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do whatever you want. Now, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do something. I know you think of something noble

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<v Speaker 1>and charity. Could you imagine how could you imagine like

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<v Speaker 1>you could wipe out people's medical debt? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like or like student loans. So let's go something. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>reframe the question. What would you buy or build exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>for your enjoyment, something that would be a selfish guilty pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm, you know me, that's really hard. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I had to reframe the question just to

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<v Speaker 1>even get you there, um some custom made Adidas. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I would, Well, it's not I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even think. I guess I think of like you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd build like this, me using a huge mansion and

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<v Speaker 1>like so but I don't know if i'd populate it

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<v Speaker 1>with like my family so that I haven't like enough

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<v Speaker 1>use for the space. Otherwise it feels wasteful. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like wastefulness. So like if I if I built like

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<v Speaker 1>this gigantic mansion, there'd be all these rooms, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could just tell people to come hang out whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>but like other you build an informal hotel. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of would, but then I don't like to be

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<v Speaker 1>around people a lot. So what if it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a mansion, but with all I don't know, not so

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<v Speaker 1>many bedrooms, but like a really nice chef's kitchen. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I'd be like, I have all this money, I

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<v Speaker 1>could be like serving food to people who are hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you build market I sound like such a

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<v Speaker 1>goody two shoes jerk saying that. But I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time spending money on myself. I'm such

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk, you know. And so I'm not being fake

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I just can't make a like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like waste and I don't like selfishness and so and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm selfish and that doing really nice

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, that kind of self sacrifice makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel really good. That's why I do it, Like not

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<v Speaker 1>why I do it, but it feels really good to

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<v Speaker 1>help someone out, and like, even if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>give it yourself, like, it's a really good feeling. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of how I get high on life. I

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<v Speaker 1>take it back, you would not dare I paid attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and no, I would be the worse. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys should not do this. You're throwing your lives away

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<v Speaker 1>and wasting this money. Please. Yeah, I'm talking about of

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<v Speaker 1>buying the cocaine exactly to get them back into schooling. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Carlo Escobar was not hung up with the moral quandaries

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<v Speaker 1>that you had, and he decided to get himself something nice,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an exotic zoo. So he's like that nice

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<v Speaker 1>think of those animal I have a big problem with,

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<v Speaker 1>like people not letting wild be wild. Problem. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>had enough land that, as you will hear, he let

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<v Speaker 1>them go as you would say wild ish, maybe fairal

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<v Speaker 1>where they're from. That's the difference, Like not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't relate. Until the animals are just in charge

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<v Speaker 1>and they get to do what they want, We're all gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is there a timeline on that? Do we know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on it? Okay, I got my car running

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<v Speaker 1>out in the driveway. I'm working on it because I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been getting the newsletter and I would really like

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about when that's going to happen. The Pablo

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<v Speaker 1>Escobar zoo is I know, the unfortunate for you going

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<v Speaker 1>to be sound gross and and hangous for the animals,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was, but it was also a beautiful place

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<v Speaker 1>to look at if you didn't have any issues about

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<v Speaker 1>exploitation of the animals. So you have this like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, it's kind of a thing for people

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<v Speaker 1>who have a bunch of money. Like El Chopo. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a zoo too, right, and he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Guadalahar. He had a little come with the little

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<v Speaker 1>trains like you know, like your nephew likes to ride

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<v Speaker 1>around on right, so here looking on with the little trains,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd ride around his zoo just the head all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so picture the head of the Cinelo cartel riding around

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<v Speaker 1>his little train like he's got like his little conductor's

0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.000
<v Speaker 1>hat on and he's pointing out, those are my my

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<v Speaker 1>rocks over there. Because they want this like connect, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to control something and they want to show excess.

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<v Speaker 1>But then also it's very sort of infantilizing, right, Like

0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's they're going back to their childhoods, and you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna abandon all sorts of morality, there's probably

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<v Speaker 1>some trauma at an early age. And I have taken

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<v Speaker 1>this away from being funny and ridiculous, professor. But over

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<v Speaker 1>here anyway, we're talking about murder his cartel leaders. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if you just psychologize him to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that they are not funny people. They weren't funny people

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt people. Hurt people exactly, who are you? Paul

0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.760
<v Speaker 1>little Pablito who had his like you know, tender heartbroken

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<v Speaker 1>at a young age, and we don't know about he

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<v Speaker 1>went and bought a zoo to cheer himself up and

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<v Speaker 1>try to restore his We bought a zoo, he met

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<v Speaker 1>am and got together. So just okay, what's what's just relief?

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<v Speaker 1>Relieve some of the tension. Here. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>picture the zoo. I'm gonna walk you up to the

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<v Speaker 1>zoo and into it. Okay, picture Pablo Escobar's secret estate.

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<v Speaker 1>You I've led you there on this jungle path. We've

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<v Speaker 1>arrived on a small plane and now we're walking up

0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to it and you see we are Okay, just to

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<v Speaker 1>put you into place, we are ninety miles east of Metalline,

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<v Speaker 1>in the land where flowers grow in abundance. And you

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.080
<v Speaker 1>have this land, it's it's right basically at the equator,

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.640
<v Speaker 1>so there's almost no season. It's it's just always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of spring like. It's just a really the flowers are

0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.480
<v Speaker 1>always in blossom. That's why so many flowers grow there

0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and they get shipped around the world is because of

0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this climate. Right, sounds incredible. It's beautiful. The trees are

0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.960
<v Speaker 1>filled with tropical birds. The air is warm, sweet with

0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.720
<v Speaker 1>like the fruity smell of the blossoms of the flowers. Right,

0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just idyllic. You know they're on a seaplane and

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<v Speaker 1>where you wearing short shorts like magnum p I, baby,

0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what are you kidding me? Come on now,

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the Hawaiian shirt, the shorts shorts, bust.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need this from my mental picture, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, keep picture that. So we come up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Estancia that you ranch, right, it's in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you as you approach. As we approach, you see a

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<v Speaker 1>small airplane. It's on top of a gate, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And this gate is like one of those South American

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<v Speaker 1>styles where it's just a you right into the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that gate there's a Piper super cub and

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<v Speaker 1>a Piper Supercub is a small plane like a cessnum

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<v Speaker 1>and it is balanced there. And this plane is a

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<v Speaker 1>replica of Pablo Escarbar's first plane that he used to

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<v Speaker 1>smuggle cocaine into the US. Right, yes, exactly. This started

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<v Speaker 1>it all once you're about to see the wonders before

0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you all started with this plane. Okay. So Pablo he

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<v Speaker 1>has this overarching like basically catch phrase he's known for

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<v Speaker 1>plato o plomo, right, and that means silver or lead,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, And that is the attitude that has afforded

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<v Speaker 1>all of this deca, so we're going to keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. But this place of Pablo is named Hacienda Napoles,

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<v Speaker 1>the Naples the state is designed to look like a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth century uh like ranch house that is built by

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<v Speaker 1>the Conkys, or would have been built by the conquistadors,

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<v Speaker 1>and his zoo is part of this ranch. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>got this beautiful conquistador style home, all of these animals.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the sense that this is something that is

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<v Speaker 1>designed to be impressive, it's supposed to impress obviously his underlings,

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<v Speaker 1>but anybody who comes there and he his cocaine associates,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to tell them I have the power of

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<v Speaker 1>the state, because typically who has zoos the state, the

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.040
<v Speaker 1>state has zoos. Well with with my man Escobar, He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to know through my exotic animals that

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<v Speaker 1>I too can keep a life alive, exotic life where

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be, which is essentially what a zoo is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, his collection of animals starts with that one

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<v Speaker 1>singular desire and will take a quick break and I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you about what his collection looks like and

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<v Speaker 1>how and why it included the cocaine hippos. I cannot wait. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're ready to hear about Pablo Escobar zoo. We've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten you to the gates, We've told you about the animals,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we're going to see them and meet them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ready, yes, okay. Picture ostriches running loose on the

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<v Speaker 1>Colombian plane. Picture giraffes gathered by the tropical trees. Picture

0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.920
<v Speaker 1>elephants just often too the distance. Antelopes running in herds,

0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>All kinds of exotic birds, peacocks, various other exotic birds,

0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.400
<v Speaker 1>all armed with semi amatic weapons. Yes, because they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep Pablo safe. Yeah. And then there are also dinosaur statues,

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<v Speaker 1>but the dinosaur statues were built from real dinosaur bones,

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.159
<v Speaker 1>so they just dinosaur, yeah basically. And then he had

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<v Speaker 1>like also a statuary garden with like these giant octopuses

0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.639
<v Speaker 1>doing like weird octopus dance stuff. He was in the art.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to a natural history museum and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I love your dinosaur statues. That's an actual dinosaur.

0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.800
<v Speaker 1>This is a beautiful statu I mean statutes like he'd

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<v Speaker 1>skinned that he covered them in like a physical out

0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in the dinosaur the bones. You couldn't see them all,

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like they're like in there. So it's like it's got

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<v Speaker 1>like a boam, it's exactly to look like a dinosaur,

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but it has real dinosaur bones. Now did he put

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<v Speaker 1>the feathers on it like they're supposed to have had.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was that accurate. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he wants because I don't even know that if

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<v Speaker 1>we knew, actually know, because the Jurassic Park would have

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<v Speaker 1>been coming out, right, So the research probably cooked up

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<v Speaker 1>making dinosaurs. Yeah, just too busy, Yeah, with arts and

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.400
<v Speaker 1>crafts and cocaine, a single like trickle of blood coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of one nostril on the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs all

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<v Speaker 1>have one long cokemail just one man, and like necklaces

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<v Speaker 1>with tiny spoons. Yeah, little things. I'm showing how old

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<v Speaker 1>I am with like the oh you're late seven cocaine

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.440
<v Speaker 1>totally as a child. That's what started talking about Frank

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Serpico and the dirty New York Police. So now amongst

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<v Speaker 1>these exotic animals of Pablo Escarbar there were the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine hippos. Now they started out, there were four of

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<v Speaker 1>them at the start. That's when we got when he

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>got those hippos from New Orleans, there were four of them, right,

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 1>there are three females, one male. The adams to a

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 1>zoo and then Boo comes around. Pablito gets gunned down

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<v Speaker 1>by the Colombian government and now we've got these stranded hippos.

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<v Speaker 1>But the hippos have been humping and eating and producing

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<v Speaker 1>poop at an extraordinary amount. And so now they have

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<v Speaker 1>just basically started to take over their environment. They're little,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a micro environment, and they have started to

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<v Speaker 1>change it. They have spread from the lake where they

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<v Speaker 1>started into the local rivers and they are now four

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<v Speaker 1>different lakes. And then they started to range the hippos

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<v Speaker 1>like they get so bad that they actually spread out

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<v Speaker 1>to Now you'll find them like a hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles away. What Yeah, and they're nocturnal, so the hippos

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>are charging through Columbia at night, so I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>on their hind legs, under cover of darkness. So the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why they were there is the Colombian government when

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<v Speaker 1>they killed Pablo, they went and they seized up all

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the other animals. Right, they take the elephants. The drafts

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<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, Bogata zoo. You want to bring them on, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like they could get any takers for the hippos.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, no, I'm I'm good on hippos, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're good. Plus it's a pain to move them. They're

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<v Speaker 1>heavy and you can't tranquilize em easy. So they're like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're also hungry, hungry exactly. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>like Colombian governments like, you know what, let's just leave

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>them here. They'll build, they'll die, you know, because Nage'll

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 1>take care of it. We don't have to do anything. Well,

0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.120
<v Speaker 1>they were wrong. The hippos were like, man, y'all didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how much we love Colombia. Oh, son, y'all

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>messed up. Now we are cocaine exactly. You can't stop us.

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Pablo picked us for really good reasons. So here's the

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.200
<v Speaker 1>actual scientific reasons why Pablo did them. A solid is one,

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Colombia's wetlands have no natural predators for a hippo, nothing's

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna kill them except for old age to the weather

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is ideal, and but it's not because like they like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the springtime weather that you responded to.

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>It's that they don't have droughts. In Columbia that they

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 1>do in sub Saharan Africa, so you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that wet season, dry season and stuff. They

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just have constant water, which means constant food and constant humping.

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So they're just sitting there eaten, pumping, sleeping all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And a female can like within like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's forward four and a half years or seven years,

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>they can start I think it seven years actually they

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>can start making babies. So what that means is basically

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<v Speaker 1>once these hippo streity going, once they reach puberty, yeah,

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>hippo puberty, they start basically knocking. Even though they're all

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<v Speaker 1>one genetic population, you know, but because there were the

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<v Speaker 1>three females in the one male that I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>enough variety that they've been very successful. So they've just

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<v Speaker 1>been making incest uous hippos for decades now and they're

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<v Speaker 1>up to about a dred and twenty. So they're just

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<v Speaker 1>out there knocking boots. Yeah, well they love you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they got water, they got food. So what's that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know offhand with the gestation period is the gestation

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<v Speaker 1>period for hippo I do not long. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>this long only because they are of the same family

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<v Speaker 1>of whales, and whales have a really long gestation period,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just guessing, I don't know Genus Biggins. There

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<v Speaker 1>are pigs and and uh what called pigs and whales

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<v Speaker 1>were have a common ancestor with the hippo, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like this rum nata group, and then they go into

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<v Speaker 1>the water and then they become fully aquatic as whales

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and becomes cetaceans, and then the hippo stays semi aquatic

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that keeps its toes a due exactly. So these these

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.160
<v Speaker 1>cocaine hippos, they're just rocking off in Columbia doing super well.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is bad for Colombia's other wildlife because of

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<v Speaker 1>how much the hippo's poop the hippos and I know

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a joke, right, but it's like hippos

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<v Speaker 1>their poop is turns out to be a really bad

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>anaerobic problem. It basically pulls oxygen out of the water,

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>so the available oxygen for the fish is not there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means if you were fish, and then if

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you're a fish, means if your otters, and then also

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<v Speaker 1>if you're manatees, so these hippos are threatening to basically

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>kill manatees. That's not cool, right, Everyone loves manatees, and

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like people are like, bro, come on now, like what's

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>up with these cocaine hippos and their hippo crap? And

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly the manatees are like, you know, these super gentle

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>sea cows. And everyone's like, oh, y'all like the new one. Huh,

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.959
<v Speaker 1>y'all got that new model. We're just over here. But

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<v Speaker 1>what would you by the way, just you know, off handedly,

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>cocaine hippos. I keep saying the term what would you

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<v Speaker 1>have fixed cocaine to? What animal would you put cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>in front of if you had a choice? Cocaine? Uh,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>what's something that's like I think it would be about

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<v Speaker 1>for comedic effect or like in real life. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think in real life use this is like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a nickname that's associative to Pablo Escobar. I just mean, like,

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>what would be a funny animal to refer to as

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a cocaine This a cocaine that, like the cocaine art vark.

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I think amster cocaine. Amster cocaine will not get off

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the hamster wheel. I think that is just you just

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>described cocaine had like anyone who dugs code cocaine amster. Yeah,

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the new name for people. You see some you

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>see someone, I'll toot it up. You're like, look at

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that coke cocaine hamster ever there? And then we shorten

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it and we just refer to them as hamsters. How

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>will we know which ones are which? Though? Well, because

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>if I if, if I'm at like a rock and

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>roll show and I come out of the bathroom and

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I go, there's a bunch of hamsters in there, would

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>immediately sharing a stall and I hear some snorts, You're

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>not going to be like literal hamsters. You're like, oh

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>my god, what why is there a hobbit trail in there?

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Is it broken? This club has a habit trail that

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 1>runs all through the bathroom system. It's amazing. So I

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>think that Zaren context clues context was okay, fair enough,

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 1>fair enough? So how about this a more serious question?

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>What would you do with a fast growing population of

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>cocaine hippos and you had to get rid of them,

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>organize them in revolt, have them leave themselves out of

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>their exploitation, completely, break the chance, take over the cities. Yeah,

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>if I had to get rid of them, I don't know.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not my it's not my business. The government of

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Colombia has been taking that approach for a while. They've

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>tried recently a more hands on approach. So basically, for

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the longest time they just blame Pablo Escobar. They're like, oh,

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it's pablos hippos. Anything they do, it's pablos. But then

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that didn't work after a while. Yes, he's dead, yeah exactly.

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>After then they god, like ten fifteen years later, people like, bro,

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>those are not pablos hippos anymore. I mean they are,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>but y'all have been letting them wild out. So the

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>descendants of public exactly probably never met any of these hippos.

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>So the Colombians are like, okay, well we can go

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>through some options, and so they basically have tried most

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>of the options you would think of. So let's start

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>with a couple of them, right, Like, you got this

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>invasive species and you're like, well, well, how do we

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>get rid of them? Well, we brought them here, we

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>could just send them back. So the first idea of

0:26:54.760 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the old idea send them back to Africa. Had that

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>one that one met with about the same responses the

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 1>first time they tried it, because it was like, that'll

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>be too expensive. How are we going to do that?

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>We want to do it, but how are we going

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it? It's like a whole nightmare on the

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Hippo star line, exactly, the Black Hippo Star. The thing is,

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like those those dudes, those hippos aren't yeah exactly,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>not anymore. Yeah, So it's like, y'all got some South

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>American hippos. I don't know what to take speak Spanish. Well.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Then the other issue is that the Colembian government has

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>had to start to solve this problem because now the

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>cartel is smuggling these baby hippos. They go and have

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>ducked the baby hippos and smuggle them out of Colombia.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So the cycle has come full circle and the cartel

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>is now they're selling them overseas. Whoever wants a baby hippo.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>They're like, we got some baby hippos. What y'all need?

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Billionaires who have too much money and they're like, what

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>can I put in my palatial estate about baby hippo hippos?

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And so people like yo, I know somebody I can

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>hook you up with that you want to go out

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on a kilo and two baby hippos like kid, their

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>kid gets a hippo for its fourth birthday and the

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>kids riding the hippo on the grass until it loses

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 1>interest and they're like, he did you feed the hippo today?

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Where's your where's your hippo? Becky? Did you If you

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>get me a hippo, I promise I'll take care of it.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Hippos are violent. Oh yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah,

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>they naps that kid in half. No more than any

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>other wildlife in Africa. That includes the king cobra, the lion,

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the elephants, rhinos, all those hyena. None of them get

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>close down. Many of the hippo hippos just will snap

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you all neck. So proud of them. So there have

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>been some other approaches. The Colinbian government that came up

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 1>has come up with. One of them was the always

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the old fashioned well we could eat them because well

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>this this was a real thing. This came up and

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>basically this this hippo died of semi natural causes semi

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>natural s to suicide. He ran into an electrified fence

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and so it was like half cooked. It's not semi

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>natural causes because no one actively killed the hippo. The

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>kip hippo wandered into a kill environment. I don't know

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>what to tell you, but it's not natural because it's

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not like the natural electrified fences like eels get together

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and like hanging from trees just to like experience. People like,

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>let somebody come through, come through, come through, Come on.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like a hazing thing in the jungle of these Okay,

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>so we'll call it. We'll call it a negligent death. Okay,

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>negligent homicide. Death of this hippo occurred and the locals

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, it's it's already kind of cooks. What

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you think it taste like? So they divided

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it up and then they like you know, partitioned it

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>up amongst each other, and then we went to town.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>They were like, that's so good hippo meat. I mean,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>if another one comes through here and it gets killed

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on Bob's fence, it's like when you're driving down the

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>street and your windows are down and you smell someone barbecuing.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, that's good, that's really good. Should I

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>go and pretend I'm a relative. That was the neighbors

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with hippo. They were like, oh, that kind of it's

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>got some real hits, a little different kind of comes

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>out to the nose and says hello. So this they

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>have called me. Government's like, hey, is this is something

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we can do? We heard some locals that we're eating

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>some electrified hippo meat. Is that something we could push

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>off on the people? And biologists is like, well yeah,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a high fat content, it could probably

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>marble well, and maybe if you paired it with local

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>spices it could be a really good meal. Which did

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>How about you? Do you remember when Louisiana tried to

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>do this with Nutria with that giant beaver and they're like, okay, people,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>we tried to get you to shoot them, and you

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do that. What if would you just eat them?

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's come up with some recipes, people, and they put

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>out a state like a cookbook for Nutria and nibble

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on them, tiny little real exactly get some of that

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>rib meat. Work real hard for it. It's sort of

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>like a cornish game hyn a Louisiana game. Hyna. Well,

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you're good at cooking, how would you prepare a hippo.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like it's in my mind

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>because you said this is like a high fat cun

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>But I don't believe it's like marble. Do you probably

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>have to get through a fat layer. Yeah, I imagine

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's more like whales where you have like blubber

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>or it's a condensed I mean, then I'll use the

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>techniques I use when cooking whales. Yeah, okay, than never mind.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean I bet you could get like a hippo

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>steak somehow, like get some sort of because they're strong,

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>very very so you get you tapped into that muscle though.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh probably. And I don't know if if it's something

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you kind of got to like stew to soften, got

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to tender eye, it probably. Yeah. I don't know any

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of these things. I'm just making this stuff up. Hippo tacos,

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>hippo tacos. You know, I can make anything into a taco.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>About talent, people like what is Elizabeth like? Well, if

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you can make anything into a taco and she loves

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the television show nine one one, Yeah, those are thats

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all I think. That's full stop. That's my autobiography.

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So Colombia is like, um, well we've tried all these

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>different approaches. Well we could always do the old well,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, stand by just shoot them. We could just

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>go out and hunt them and shoot them. And the

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>people are like, bro, bro, you canna let God sort

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>them out. That is not the approach. They're like, well,

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>hear us out. So when they had a like this

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>rampaging hippo going around in the rural back country, the

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>locals were like, help us up as we got this

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>hippo is just rampaging in the back country. And the

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Columbian government's like, okay, we got you son, We'll send

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>out like the killed team. So he send out to

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you like the army, and the army goes out there.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, A K forty seven is the whole bit.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.479
<v Speaker 1>And uh, they hunt down this hippo, they kill it,

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and then they make the mistake of taking a picture

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>with it. Yep, they know the whole group. There's like,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you can find this picture of Peppe the hippo dead,

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by Colombian army folks all smiling. And when that

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>photo hit the internet, what do you think happened? Angry? Yeah,

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>so a bunch of people got pissed and it was

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>so bad that the Colombians protest. It was an international

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>incident online. The Columbian people. They went down and protested

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in front of the environmental ministry and Bogata. They're like,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>y'all can't do this to Pepe ended any of the

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>other hippos. This is not gonna be cool. People are like, oh, well, okay, well,

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can't come back to Africa. We can't

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>eat them, we can't shoot him. What are we gonna do? Miriam?

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>No good guests though that came up with the last one.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Castrat um ouch exactly. You don't even have tests. So

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I will explain to you after the short break how

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the answer of castration also is failing. Okay, So if

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I had to ask you, Elizabeth, why do you think

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it would be difficult to castrate to hippo? Well, it's

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 1>like there do they have four h like the agricultural

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like homest harvest hippo. Yeah. I think

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that's like they teach the kids to wrastle down the hippos.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think their nuts. No, I don't know.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have that I don't. I would

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine that it's well again, I'm going to go back

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to the angry, angry hippo that they're a very big

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>animal and they're very angry. So that is a good read.

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And they don't have like rodeo pens in the rivers

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>where they live in lakes. You got to get them

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>out of the lake. I don't know. You know what,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell me? Well? These are all you

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty much nailed the basics. Ones, big animal, mean animal

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.479
<v Speaker 1>can be mean when confronted, or it's a territorial animal.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>You get into their territory, the act that way, and

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 1>then lives in muddy water. So how are you gonna

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>get You gonna get in there the water and put

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>it like a strap on Nathan and helicopter amount. You're

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna get in there with a tractor and drag them out.

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>You have to give to the animal, right, So they're like,

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>well that's difficult. But then there's something even more difficult.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Hippos are sexually dimorphic. Yeah, it's actually dimorphic means you

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>can't tell a male hippo from a female hippo. Hippo

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>is essentially a genderless animal like a Kendall. No, no,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>not like that. It's not smooth front, but it turns

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>out it is. It's like they have, you know, the

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>actual sexes. There are a male and female hippop, but

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you but looking at him, there are no there's no

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>descended genitalia, there is no coloration difference, there's no size difference.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>They look identical, and their genitals you cannot parse from

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at them as if it's male or female because

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it looks like smooth Kendall. When you like everybody, Okay,

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I got I'll give that to you. Though, hippo looks

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like a smooth Kendall. I'll give you out points. That's

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of cute that there's no difference. Yeah, no, right,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not the only Okay, not to be delicate, but like,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>how do they how do they do their uh reproductive business,

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>their muddy business. You know what happens is apparently the

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>going as the testies of a male hippo are up

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in the body, like up like ovaries. They are like

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:22.959
<v Speaker 1>way up high in the body. So if you're gonna

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>try to find those, you can't reach them, but the

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>penis is going to be able to get out and

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, do all the business you want for like

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a sexual interaction between you and miss hippo. So they're

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like anies. Everybody's in it. It's kind of like a

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>dog whether the penis comes out, but like a lot

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of animals have a penis bone, so that kind of

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>like helps it pop out. Like the human beings, we

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have a penis bone. We have like a ligament

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and some blood pressure to make our penis works. But

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>there's when they get excited, you know, pops out. It's

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like one of those birthday party horns or you it's

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>hippo penis so and I don't know if they're like

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>horses where they're like huge and hung or if they're

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, smaller animals, but they have like if

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you look at like a boor a pig, they're close

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>relative you'll see the balls from behind, right, not the

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>case for the hippop. So if you're trying to castrate

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>them and you can't find the gont, you have to

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>make difficult so you have to tranquilize them surgery. And

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>then if you now, let's say you have this tranquilized hippo,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>which is by the way, a very difficult animal to

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tranquilse because it's so thick and so heavy, and they

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much to give it. Thick th i

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>c c oh double c thick that hippop thick. But

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>some of these thick hippos that you can't tranquilize, they

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>will get angry if they wake up in the middle

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>of the surgery, like your hand all up on their

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>go and adds that are up in their body cavity problems.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Sterilize them, good question. There actually are chemical castration. So

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>chemical castration means you put the sterilizing agent into their

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>food and if you do that, then you just have

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to put the food out. They eat the food. Food

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>gets them sterilized. Or you can do the other way,

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>which is basically you put the food in a pen.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>They come up to the pen, you don't close the door,

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.399
<v Speaker 1>they eat the food, they leave. You put the food

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>in the pen, they come up to the pen, they

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>don't close the door, and eventually you close the door

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you tranquilize them in the pen. That's the

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>other approach. So you've got two approaches. You can either

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, feed them something, or you can go up

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and tranquilize them after tricking them. Now, the big deal

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>with that is is it costs about fifty dollars to

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>try to do most of these efforts I've described, So

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the cheapest approach is to turn to the Americans who

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>have offered up free sterilizing agents at the Department of

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Agriculture invented. They're like, hey, bro, we got this for you.

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So we're like, this will be cheap and easy. You

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>just give the hippos this. But people you know around

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the world, animal rights activists, Hippo Lovers United, They're like,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that to the hippos. And remember the

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>people of Columbia they see it as like a national emblem,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so they don't want these hippos mistreated. So and also

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the hippos themselves, you know, they are a charming animal there.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Even though they are really aggressive. People don't think of

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>them that way. They think of them in the Disney

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>terms of being like in the two twos and dancing

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a hippo is this it's not seen as an aggressor.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>So people aren't siding with the manatees in this issue.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You would think that the animal rights activists will be

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>able to make the case. But they're like, say, the hippos.

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>So people are like, well, why well, how are we

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>going to save these hippos and people? Animal rights activists

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>are like, I've got it. Will turn hippos into people.

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Well not exactly, not like scientifically into people, just legally

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>into people because if you want to castrate them chemically,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna use this weird US government sterilyzing agent,

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>now he don't just put them on like the Megan's List.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>So I understand. What happens is they take these hippos

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and they give them personhood right and the reason why

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to do that. It's just like corporations, it's exactly. So

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>no hippos and corporations all have more legal rights than

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I do. I love this. So the hippos they this

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 1>this drug that they're trying to give them right, it's

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>called going to colne like like gone going ads, but

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like not going ads, like going to Colm right, So

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>like g O N A c O N. Yes, going

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>like comic con comicon for gonads. So this stuff I

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>will not attend that it's been it's been designated to

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>be not good for hippos because it's for like you know,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like elk and horses and native North

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>American wildlife to people like this is not designed for hippos,

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 1>so the animal rights actors or you can't do that.

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Columbia is like, well, we got these free drugs, so

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we're thinking about doing it. So they give the hippos,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they go to court, they file a lawsuit. So there's

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>like animal rights activists, they file lawsuits and they've been

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>doing this for a while, Like there's one guy, Luis

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Domingo Gomez Maldonado. He's been like really key and leading

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the fight. So by giving these animals personhood, then they

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 1>have to be respected and they have to be treated humanely.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.959
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point, right, So that's kind of neat,

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>But this idea is based on the This idea of

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>giving them personhood is based on a larger environmental approach

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that has been very successful. Australia has given personhood to rivers,

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the Colombians have given personhood to parts of the Amazon

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>based on the Amazon rainforest. So this is actually an

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>expanding model. So these these cocaine hippos may signal the

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>forefront of a new legal fight that we can possibly

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>say things we love on this planet and maybe even

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>save things like rivers and trees by treating them humanely

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like people. So ultimately this could be a very helpful

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>step along the way for us all living better. So

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we maybe owe a debt of gratitude of these cocaine

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 1>hippos for making us treat each other and animals more humane.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>And they too can go into bankruptcy over an ambulance

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>ride exactly. So, now that uh Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippos

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>are legally considered people under American law, and which was

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the court case that was like in the news re

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>cently we have the standpoint to work with. But what

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to know is if you could give and

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 1>grant personhood to any animal, which way animal would you pick?

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Bears and wolves? Bears and wolves to save them or

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>just because you want them to be able to like

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>chill in places with you. I want them to be

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>able to like go to school embedded themselves. Now I

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>want to hang out with them, no, protect them. Yeah,

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I think I think the idea of

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>person is actually a really cool idea. I was talking

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to an indigenous activist from Australia about this and that's

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>what I first learned, that they turned a river into

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>a person. That's like, what that sounded silly at first,

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but really it's kind of genius under our construction of law. Yeah,

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is, but it's also it's difficult to

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>get your head around in terms of like the definition

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>of personhood and the idea of will and its ridic

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>action that around. But there was also one other thing

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you that I learned while I was

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>researching about these hippos. There was something all the American

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Hippo Bill, right, and it's just as fun as it sounds.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>There's his representative down from Louisiana. He's like, you know

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>what we need to do to save America's bring us

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>over some hippos. Because everyone's like, what what is this

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>dude talking about? Why is he even in Congress? And

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>how prescient that the Louisiana is going to be supprising

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>later on? Way to bring it around? Yeah, you're welcome

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>these Uh this bill that just put forward, the American

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Hippo Bill, it hits the floor of Congress, and the

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>bill is quote, will authorize the importation and release of

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>hippopotamuses into the values of Louisiana. Now, why would they

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>want to release hippos unto the bias Louisiana. It wasn't

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to fight gators, if that's what you were thinking. It

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was to eat this like unwanted plant that was clogging

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>up the waterway. So they're like, if we can get

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 1>to eat that plant, and then you know we can

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>do next. We can eat the hippos. So they're like,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>fight invasive species with invasive species, and then we'll eat

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>the invasive species. Solved. And the reason why they came

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>up with this idea is because they needed meat. So

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that's how they tried to get it right. So they

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>put this. There's a huge push and I'm talking Washington

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Post is writing about this. New York Times is writing

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>about this. Teddy Roosevelt is a huge fan. He's out there.

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>He's just left the presidency, so he's like still a

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>major figure in nineteen ten and he's sitting there going around.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, America needs what he calls, by the way,

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>lake cow bacon. That was lake cow bacon. Yeah, that

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>was part of the like sales campaign to make it

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like a hip thing. We need eat fat content. Yeah, exactly,

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>delicious friends, that stuff on electric fence. I'm telling you, boy,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>get you some eels and keep in mind this American

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>hippo bill. It almost passed in the end. We were

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>just a few votes shy of America's adding lake cow

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>bacon to all of our diets. Oh my god, it

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>would have been like in school lunches. Yeah, instead of

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like like pepperoni pizza on Friday, it's hippo pizza. And

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>then you'd have Peta dressing up like hippo's and oh yeah,

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>laying around in front of a whole food screaming at people.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think is ridiculous takeaway for the

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>cocaine hippo story. Um, I think our ridiculous takeaway is

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that if you feel the impulse to show out and

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>show off, think about what the ramifications of those actions

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>may be. So if it involves another living thing that

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you're treating is just an object, it's probably not a

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>good idea. So if you want to like flex on

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone and be like I got hippos, I got dinosaur bones,

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 1>come on now, like, you know, think about the long

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>term effectually, got a plan. I gotta think forward otherwise

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what you are ridiculous? Wait, to go. I

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>think my ridiculous takeaway is, look, if you take something

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>out of Africa and then it does somewhere else, does

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>really well somewhere else, don't get mad at us. Thank you,

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.359
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